January 11, 2025 • 45 mins
Gary talks to our fiends from EZ Breathe for the hour.
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well, it is the weekend. Welcome aboard, you're at home
with Gary Sullivan. A very special hour we're going to
dedicate to educating everyone about indoor air quality. You know,
as our building practices change year in and year out,
and you know, we we make our homes more energy efficient,
(00:53):
we try to save energy costs, but as we tighten
things up, don't exactly. In other words, you can create
a staying an air mass in your house. In fact,
the EPA says indoor air qualities three to five times
more pollued than outdoor. So once a year we bring
our friend and Andre lacual in. He is an expert
(01:17):
on indoor air quality. He does also work for Easy Breathe.
You've heard me talk about that for fifteen years at least,
and we've kind of grown up with a whole problem.
And Andrea sits on a lot of different boards that
addresses these issues. And Andrea, welcome again at home of
Gary Salvin.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
How you doing, Oh great, Gary, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
All right, it looks it looks like the boys are
all doing good in their hockey.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. We're deep into hockey season right now,
so let's keeping us busy.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, well, thank you for spending an hour with us.
I certainly appreciate it. You still on a lot of boards.
I don't have all the initials after your name today.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, you know, there's been a couple where I have
dropped down, if you want to call it, that to
just being a regular member, right, because after ten years
on a board, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Not somebody else's.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Place, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So yeah, but I'm still involved in all the associations.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, yeah, good for you. So I don't mean know
where to start. Why should we care about our indoor
air quality?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Sure, well you know you mentioned it earlier, how unhealthy
the indoor areas, And so what I want people to
understand is we breathe about twenty five thousand times every
single day. Right, That's a lot, right, And if you
think about the amount of money that's being spent and
a good thing, the kind of food we eat, making
(02:43):
sure we're eating you know, organic foods, or or what
we drink or you know, the suntan lotions that we use,
is things that we don't want to we don't want
to create cancer. Things like that. We think about all
that other stuff. I just want people to understand that
where we live. The home that is our biggest investment,
has a lot to do with our health because we
breathe every single day. That Aaron the Holt. So if
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you take it back to what you said before about
it being unhealthy in there, and that's where we're stuck,
especially now in the winter. There are things that we
can do. We're already doing it in other aspects of
our life. We're already going down the food aisles and
making good choices there, right, We're doing all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
What we can do.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What we need to focus on is what directly affects
our health, which is breathing.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So what influences the quality of indoor error? I certainly
sure molds. I mean we've been hearing about that in
the news, and you know, mold didn't become a problem
till we really started tightening our homes and that's been
forty years ago, so I'm sure mold's one of those.
But what other things influence indoor air quality?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So normal things like that we all know about temperature
and relative humidity, right, those things kind of affect it
and they infect it in a booth of direct and
an indirect way, meaning where you may or may not
run your here, you may or may or may not
run your heating system, your ahex system. So then if
you're not doing that because the temperature, then maybe we're
not getting air changes. But then there's other things like
(04:09):
like the chemicals that we introduce in our home. Everything
from what you know, many people may not use hairspray anymore,
but any sort of chemicals that we introduce in our home,
big ones are what we use to clean our house.
Ironically enough, right, so if you're spraying things that that
that that stuff will maybe land on the floors of
accounts where you want it. But if you're spraying things
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where where does that have to go?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Where's that going?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And you made a reference to tightening up our homes,
like you know, we're gonna walk in the house and
bring mundy shoes in the house, We're gonna bring our
animals in. We're gonna cough, we're gonna sneeze, We're gonna
cook something that's gonna create all kinds of moisture.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Off a stove.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Where is all that going. If we're doing a good
job of tightening up our home, which is saving us
our money, we're saving us money, where is all that going.
And there's no surprise, you said, we've been tightening up
the home. You've been living with this for fifteen years,
they've been growing with It's no it's no surprise that
you know, allergens are spiking, are sure to be allergies,
and children are spiking and things like that. It's because
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we spend so much time in this what I call
talxing environment.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Which is their home.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So so they're gonna be there if we have a
energy efficient home, and I hope you do, or you're
throwing a lot of dollars away, but we don't want
you to have an energy efficient home and be sick either.
So it's kind of the second half of the solution.
And I'm seeing more and more things being thrown out
(05:36):
there as solutions. We've talked about air exchanging. I've here
air purifiers. I hear different chemicals that will kill different allergens.
I hear ozone machines, I hear you know what, So
there's are there all these solutions or do we really
(05:58):
have to treat a problem rather than trying to mask
the problem. I mean, and that's never a good idea,
But what correctly help me with that? I guess because
I get asked that question.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
A lot, and you bring up a great point, and
something that people need to understand is first and foremost,
we want to do what we call source control. Right.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
We want to control the source.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So that means a lot of times eliminating certain things, right,
eliminating certain products that we use or things like that.
So the number one thing that we do is source control,
eliminate the source. It sounds easy to say, but sometimes we.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Can't do that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
What if the source is your dog and the dander, right,
We're not elimiting the dogs. The source could be excess humidity, right, Well,
there's no eliminating that, but you can control.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That, right. So all those things that you mentioned, all
those products are good for what they're.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Intended for, and I highly recommend people if that's what
they're going to do, definitely do research because sometimes it
might be a uell. Sometimes it might be just what
you need. But sometimes those products may work in just
that one room that you're staying in.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So number one is source control, meaning eliminate the source.
That doesn't mean a machine can do it. That means
you not introducing that source into your house. If that's possible.
If it's not possible, then we go to those alternatives,
which is those machines. And most importantly, let's be honest,
is that I know that that's my background, but is
ventilation is exhausting the air that's in your house outside
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right right. You can buy every machine we want for everything.
You can have an ozone machine, you can have an
ion generation machine, you can have all the times. But
let's just get the air that's in your house, take
it outside where it gets diluted, and bring in fresh air.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
That's the best way to do it all.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So this is the start of my thirty ninth year
on this show. And the thing I started saying the
dash start to show is water is your number one enemy,
and by talking to you, it sounds like that could
be a source. Also. So the people that and you
know them and I know them that have a basement
that's got it leaks and either they're ignored it or
(08:09):
you get the phrase, well, it really only leaks when
it rains really really hard. But there's water in basements
and cross spaces without heavy rain. I mean, you can't
even see water that's in your basement. Is that a
fair statement?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That's a very first statement. And what people have to
recognize is water doesn't just take the form of the
liquid water that we drink or that we see them
into our basin.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know that it's been it's in a vapor form, right,
it's behind those block walls, and it seeks in.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Vapor form, right.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So so yeah, and if people could treat the air,
and let's say not treat, but let's look, people could
look at the air in their home as the way
they do well the water entering their home and think
of it the same way. You don't want water entering
your your based on a cross space, for sure, And
that's a whole other hour conversation you and I can
(09:04):
have it.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I'm sure your people.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Already educated on that you don't want water entering your home,
so you certainly don't want bad air entering your home,
you know, or or bad.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Air staying in your home. Right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So if people could think about it that way, I
think you're right. I think you know, water is the
number one, you know enemy to a home for sure.
But people also don't need to start.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
To think about about about air.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And and like you said, the theme has to people
have to understand it it's not a difficult thing to solve.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Right, you know, or to remedy right well, and it's
it's and it's almost like a maintenance to your home.
You know. Again, when we tighten things up, there's a
yan and a yang for everything. You know. Maybe we
the water I bring up because it's something we can
usually smell or see. Sure, molds and mildews when you
(09:56):
walk downstairs or getting near the cross space, they're they're
very prevalent. But just the amount of pollutants that we
have in our home. You talked about some cleaners that
maybe aren't a pH neutral cleaner, or new furniture or
new carpeting. Those off gas and they get trapped in
the home, just like humidity and those things. Sometimes you
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can't smell them or see them or fail them. You
got to get rid of those two. Let's take a
little break. When we come back. I want to talk
about the whole process. You know, we're talking about there's
air scrubbers, there's air exchangings, and I've been focused on
(10:40):
the air exchanging. I think that is a smart way,
but it's also a difficult way to explain how it works.
So you're on the hot seat Andre and you know,
if somebody wants to give us a call and ask
about air exchanging, Danny can take your call and we'll continue.
(11:01):
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twenty one minutes after the top of the hour. Andrea Lacroix,
he is my guess. He is an air quality expert.
We've been talking about different ways to improve your indoor
air quality, and we kind of keep coming back to
the exchange the air. The air outside is healthier than
inside and most of our cases versus just scrubbing air
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or spraying stuff to eliminate air particles and things like that.
So a lot of us as we've been trapped in
our homes with cold weather and snow. Andrea, if you
get a sunny day, sometimes you can just be sitting
on the couch and looking out the window and you
see things floating in the air. Is that just dust?
(14:51):
Is that a sign of bad air quality or what's
going on there?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sure, great question. And you know it's been forever, right,
I mean we talk about having that happen when we
were growing up in Grandma and Grandpa's house. This right,
But as our knowledge to your point, as our knowledge
about into air qualities getting getting more, we realize that
is an indication of pour into air quality. Right, Like,
think about that. Think about what you just said. If
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you went to your kitchen, built up a glass of water,
came back and the glass of water looked like what
you just described hitting there on the app, would you
drink it? No, none of us would drink it. We
would dump it out right, And then why are.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
We breathing it?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah? Exactly. Well, so we talked again about different ways
to eliminate this, and we go back to that exchange
the air and I know, an easy breathe. Folks, if
you're not familiar with what it is, this isn't part
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of your HVA system system HVAC system. This is a
standalone product. Maybe walk us through what it is and
how it works and what our benefits are.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Sure, so let's start with the basics. People. If you
live in a home and you're in your kitchen, there's
a range hood, right, there's an exhaustment why right, because
we create pollutants right there and it has to be exhausted.
You're in your shower, okay, showers and water closets will
have fans, right and standard Now it's code why because
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those are pollutant sources.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So now let's take that on a macro level. Look
at the house. Our house, as we've just discussed for
the last fifteen to twenty minutes, is a pollutant source.
Some of it we bring in, some of it we create,
some of it already exists.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Okay, So what we've.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Decided with easy Breed is the concept of the ventilation fan.
Let's you know, no pun intended. Let's flip it on
its head, turn it upside down, and put that fan.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
In the basement.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
For a couple of different reasons. Number One, basements and
cross spaces are overwhelmingly your biggest source of pollution everything
and I talked about in the living space. That's true too,
but because of what we also talked about with water
and moisture. So the basement is a source of air pollutants. Okay,
so let's grab it at a source and blow it
outside at the same time that we decided to do
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that and grab it a source again, similar to a
backrum or a ch or a kitchen rangement.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
So let's grab it a.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Source, which is the basement.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We were going to blow.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Enough air that we can then pull the air from
the living space down, okay, and exhaust it out instead
of the other way around. Right when I grew up
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the EPA says are so important to have in your home.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So people right away, I'll say, oh, if we're bringing
air down, isn't that cost and we're pulling air out? Geez,
isn't that driving my energy cost up? It's like opening
a win again.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Great question. Great question.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And I the way I usually answer that question is
I say, your house does an excellent job of throwing
out heat or cool there on its own without an
eventivation system. Right, warm air rises, We all that kind
of stuff. So, but what we're doing is we're moving
just enough air.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
We move.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't want to get all techy on you on
your people, but we move one hundred and twenty eight
to the feet permitted TFM. Okay, that's just enough to
create a nice downward pull in the air from the
living space. And then we rely on the natural replacement
that happens from opening and closing doors.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
That is some fresh air supply that comes in.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Your HVAC system. So while we are exhausting air out
on the base and it's it's it's important to understand
that we're not just simply blowing your heated and cooled
air out. We are blowing air out, but no more
so than if you had nothing in your house. And
you you know, you probably have other talks so you
talk about how.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Warm air rises, It goes up in your attic.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It creates problems in the attic. Right, that's how we
do it.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, if it's insulation and ventilation and it's air exchanging. Well,
I got a ton more questions. Sit tight again. Thank
you for spending an hour with this. Andre. You're always
a great guest and very informative. And folks, if you've
got a question for Andre. It's eight hundred eight two
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thirty three minutes after the top of the hour at
Home with Gary selvam Andre laqual He is our energy
energy well. He is an energy expert also but tight
home Expert, bad air quality and your home expert and
works at easy Breathe And I do want to kind
of mention the Easy Breathe. It is an air exchanging unit.
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Z breed dot com and there is two hundred and
fifty dollars off during the month of January. If you've
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recommend taking advantage of this. Andre we hear and I
get calls from my listeners all the time. Let's say, hey,
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what about lights and duckwork? How about this spray? Won't
you know? How about this purifier? And again, I a
lot of times somebody's selling them lights in a duck work.
They don't even know if there's an issue in their
duck work. But if there's an issue in their duck work,
there's an issue in their house.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Correct, that's the great way to put it. Carry, yes, Yes,
So you're gonna it's exactly the greatest way to put it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I would say yes, because then the duck work.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Is just the pathway for everything that's already in the home, correct.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Right, Right, So I like to tell people it's like, no,
it's like you cut your arm and you need fifteen
stitches and you just put a band aid on it.
Your problems are bigger than that. Your problems are bigger. Control, right, yeah,
control exactly exactly? Uh you mind if we take a
call not at all? Not all? Right? Well, let's let's
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talk to Nancy. Nancy's in Toledo, Ohio. Nancy welcome.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Hi, thank you, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You're welcome.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I wanted to when I go down to the basin
to do my laundry, I kind of noticed the smell
in the corner, but I don't see any any water
or moisture. And just recently I've noticed as I go
down the stairs, I smell it, and my grandkids have
a playroom down there, but I don't see any water
or moisture. I just have a smell.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yep. Well, I'll let you handle that one. Andrea, I'm
sure I get asked that question about one hundred times
a week, and so do you.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I do, I do? So what you would want to
look for is any again, any source?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
My guess is basements are notoriously low ventilation, right, if
any at all? Right, And corners are very corners are
always the case where you're going to find that stuff. Now,
it's easy to look and see on the walls and
presenting evidence of moisture build up that would cause that.
But again it's most likely, just especially if it's only
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in one area, it's just a lack of ventilation and
getting air movement happening down there would probably solve them.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Right, right, so so again that easy breathe would be
perfect for your situation, Nancy, And again you agree. I
mean you need that exchange. It's kind of like, folks,
if you can just think about this, your basement would
be like your bathroom. All right, So you take a shower,
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if you don't turn the ventilation on, you got water
dripping down the myria, water dripping down the walls. Eventually
you're gonna see mold underneath the window sill and things
like that. If you always use that fan, you don't
have a problem. Right, The basement's the same thing. You
may now see water dripping, but you probably got cardboard
boxes down there, or you probably got a dusty floor.
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You probably got some wood right the joist and that
moisture just starts breeding micro organisms that start smelling, and
if you ventilate, you can literally cure the issue.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And because you've talked about this before, because there's something
called the stack effect, right, which is the fancy words
for warm air rises.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So a Nancy situation, she mentioned she's starting to smell it.
It's coming from a corner, but she started smelling it
on the stairs, So that means that's the stack effect, right,
there by definition, which means that smell is starting to
get drawn across the basement and upstairs, so she's smelling
it on the stairs with nose with no solution to
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If nothing's done, that smell will start to enter into
the home because of because of the stack effects. So
we don't want them. We want to capture it source
and get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And that's the key. Yeah, And folks, if you are interest,
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Hello.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
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Which system your easy.
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Breathe the easy Breeze.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, so that's a standalone system. And as Andrea
is talking, is changing out the air. Do you have
something to add to that, Andrea, I mean, it wouldn't
really matter what kind of heating and cooling system or
arrangement you have. If you've got a home that's energy tight,
(28:20):
you know, energy saving house, and you got maybe some
smells or something, it'll definitely help.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
It will.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And what I would suggest is with one hundred year
own home, just do a little dude due diligence and
look run the basement because some of these older homes
have lots of cracks and crevices in the foundations, and
so will we install the ventilation system. We don't want
to be pulling her in from that area, right, We
want to make sure we're pulling it from upstairs and down,
so we don't want to be introducing the air through
(28:51):
the if it exists. But in some older homes that exists.
I'm not quite sure about this one, but that's the one.
But yes, no matter what the heating system is, is
a ventilation system at one end of the basement would
definitely be a help for the spells.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And that brings up a good question also, is the
you folks can arrange installation of an easy breeze system.
It doesn't really require maintenance. It's an installation. I mean,
you can do it yourself, but it's a little bit
of a project. So you do have installation is available, correct.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
That's correct, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
We have professional installation available around the country, and we
have DIY packets where you can see how to do
it on your own if you want, and we're always
there to help with it even if somebody makes that
choice to do on their own.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
As you reference older, we're available all the.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Time for phone calls and support and any sort of
help as far as how to do the installation.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, all right, let's go to Pat in Delaware.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Pat, welcome, good morning, good snowy morning. Question, would you recommend,
if you've lived in like the La Metro area, would
you turn this off? Because if you're going to be
expelling air from your house, it's going to be drawing
air in from somewhere and will that be pulling the
(30:13):
particulate from the ad.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, that's a great question. I was I was wondering
when somebody is going to ask that question. But we
got to remember as sad a situation as that is,
thank god, it's not a normal situation. And uh, Andrew,
I'll let Andrea, I'll let you answer that. I haven't
asked you, but I think I know the answer.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, No, that is correct.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
If you do want to pull I always tell people
will remember that the content is pulling good air through
bad right, and if right outside that home is bad air, then.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
We're not going.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Then then you know you don't want to be pulling
that involved exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah. In fact, emergency rooms with people just living in
that area that maybe their homes were spared, a lot
of emergency rooms really filled up. They're telling people to
use mask and K ninety five masks. So obviously it's
a massive air quality issue. So pulling it in would
would not be advisable. So tell me about the size
(31:14):
of this unit. I you know, it doesn't fit on
the furnace, it doesn't fit on the air conditioner. It's
a standalone's it's not very big. It's probably not eighteen
inches wide, isn't.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No, it's not, as a matter of fact, it's we've
manufactured it so that the air duct shoot that goes
up and out your home can fit in between you know,
Q y fours. If you were to finish off a
basement so that only the bottom part where the brains
are of the unit are, which is like about the
size of the shoe box, I tell people, and that's
where they intake fans in your controls. There are install
(31:52):
options where that's the only thing you even see. And
all the duct work that goes up and out, and
I say duct work, it's not traditional duck work as
you mentioned you see in your HVAC system. It's a
thin white duck that goes up and directly to the outside,
right on the outside wall. So it's not ducktwork throughout
the house. It's a very very small unit. It's nice
(32:12):
and clean looking, professional looking, and it's the fan unit
is at the base of the unit right because that
we capture the area. We've captured the air at the
lowest level. We blow it up and we make a
ninety degree turn blow outside once we get above grade,
and it's all finished from the inside and on the outside,
it looks just like a drive event. The unit itself.
The footprint is to your point, the footprint is quite small.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I also always want to remind people too without having
something like this if you have and we almost all
have an issue in a basement or cross space and
you're not evacuating that air out, and you're running your
furnace motor on on. You're stirring that and sending that
(32:58):
up all through the house, all all floors of the house,
and that filter you have is not filtering all this
stuff out. That is fair to say, that's.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Very fair to say, very And I've always I thought
about this back during COVID when people when when some
people were thinking it was smart to isolate people in bedrooms. Right,
And if you think about you know, you think about
your HVAC system, it's the lungs of your home. So
take even take COVID out of it, just if someone's
sick and someone is you know, contagious, putting it your
(33:32):
HAX system does an excellent job of just distributing air
throughout your house. And unfortunately, what it's going to do
is all the bacteria that's in that air is going
to be the same thing. Sure, right, So yeah, just
just running your your HAX fan on on. That's not ventilation, right,
that's moving air, but not necessarily in a great way.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Stick one more break, we'll wrap things up under lecuoix.
He is my guest, he is with easy breathe also
an indoor air quality expert, and we'll continue our converse station.
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many of us are, at least in the colder regions
of the States, trapped indoors, a lot of snow, a
lot of cold weather. And Andre Lacroix, he is with
easy breathe and very involved in air quality inside our
homes and under I guess are we making progress educating people?
(37:21):
I feel like today, even using the analogy with a
bathroom fan, I think people are starting to catch on.
How about overall? Are we making progress?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
We are? We're making a lot of progress, right And
let me give you kind of an odd example is
the absolute proliferation of all of these plugins and air
fresheners and things like.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
That in the home right now. The negative of that.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Is, you know, you could look at just a negative
and say, well, these people are introducing chemicals because that's
what they're filled with, and so that's a whole other
education that we have to have. But the fact that
they're that's so prevalent is because people were recognizing there's
a problem in their home. So obviously more education is needed.
But yeah, we are making I think we're making a huge,
huge push. People are more I've been talking not only
(38:12):
with you, but I've been talking about indoor air quality
for years and years and years, and sometimes it's been
to just a group of other indoor air quality nerds
like myself, right, But now I'm getting in front of
a lot more people that aren't in the business but
just want to know because they've heard about it. And
so that's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
That's a great thing, and the home improvement industry as
a whole is paying more attention. I know, waterproofing companies
are doing encapsulations in cross spaces and trying to really
control the source. So the problem, which in some cases
is is water and we're seeing that, you know, helping
(38:52):
the situation.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
Also, yes, I would agree, And what you know, as
the manufacturer of Easy Reason, what I'm seeing is to
your point, a lot more companies out there want to
carry our products because they recognize.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
We're in the home. We're repairing something in the home.
Let's stick with waterproofers because that's that's what you're referenced, right,
these guys are already in the home, They're already in
the basement. These guys, the smart waterproofers are the ones
that are saying we're we already know how to take
care of that physical bulk water, but we can also
take care of your water vapor too with this new product,
with this easy breath. So yeah, yeah, and that's a
(39:28):
great thing that it's being driven by the industry, which
is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I know a lot of times people even call me
and say, hey, Gary, we hear about radon. Will the
easy breed take care of our raidon problem? And I
go like, well, you guys don't actively market that it
removes raight on, but it it does, because that's part
of bad indoor air quality. You know, it gets into
the home. But again, the easy bree is taken out
(39:54):
of the home, taking it out of the home.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Also, Yes, and that's exactly right now.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
We are not a rate on reduction system, and.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We can't but no, we're not. But but to your point,
you know, if it's entering a home and our goal
is to evacuate the air at its source. Then whatever
you're putting in, let's just say, let's just say you
decided you want to put in, you know, a blue
tinted air. You know that, you know, you're you're smoking
up the basement, you know, just for testing, right, to
(40:23):
evacuate that whatever it is, it's entering the basement, We're
evacuating it out.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And rate on.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
And I'm a rate on guy, right, I do rate
on testing, and all the rate on testing that I've done,
the rate on levels have lowered after these readings have
been installed. But that's not the solution to rate on reduction, right,
It's not the only solution, obviously.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
And it's a big area we're talking about. We're talking
about things that are off guessing, we're talking about gases
that are getting into your house, and we're talking about
how humidity. We're talking about getting rid of crumby air
that's trapped. Yeah, and the only way you're going to
do it is ventilate it. So yeah, you know, yeah,
and your point, no, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I would just say a fam sorry that when people
are putting in carpeting or putting in friendship, you made
a reference before about that new smell of the new
smell of carpeting. That's not a good smell. That's not normal, right.
RF gassing is not a natural process, right, so we
need to take care of that.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, I still like to smell, though. I agree, it's
like a new car. It's like a new car. So
Andre the folks at easy Breathe will help my listeners
if they give a call on Monday, correct, I mean
they can discuss because every house is a little bit different,
everybody's needs a little bit different. Some people want to
(41:44):
know a lot about uh, you know, the installation, and
they can call eight six six and then it's a
two breathe b R E A T h G. It's
that simple. Or eight people today, yeah today, okay.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Today we have we have a call center that's open.
They'll take your message, you know, but if it's if
it's front of mine right now, you call, leave a
message with our calling service and then you're then we'll get.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Right back to you on Monday.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
That's great. And again it's eight sixty six eight two
two seventy three twenty eight and it's easybreed dot com.
If you want to do a little research before you
make that call, but it's it certainly is a problem
that needs to be addressed. And I'm sure every time
an easy breeze installed, because I've experienced this. It's one
(42:34):
of those investments you make in your house and after
it's done, you go like, wow. I mean you get
that feedback from your customers. I'll bet you can smell
the difference.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Oh, you know what we have. We have weekly meeting
in our offices. And one of the things you know,
as you know, your militeniers might not know, but my
wife and we own the company together, right and so Erica.
One of the things that Eric introduced, and I think
this is one of the reasons why she's such a
wonderful human is that every week when we have our meetings,
she'll read off a customer testimonial. You know, we're in
(43:05):
our offices in Ohio, but but if we can hear
from somebody from California or Iowa or Delaware or wherever,
and and and read that testimony about how happy they are,
it just is It just brings a smile of a
team space. Sure, and we get them all the time,
and there's nothing there's nothing better than being able to
read those for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Well that's that's awesome. And make sure you tell Eric
I said, Hi, and I I really do appreciate you
spending an hour with us. I know that's a lot
of time. But I think you're you're you're kind of
like me. You could talk about this stuff on and
on and on because it's it's it's it's a big
issue with kind of when you really think about it,
(43:45):
A simple solution.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Couldn't couldn't say it any better.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Gary, Very good, all right, keep living life. Thank you much, Andre.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Thanks Gary, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
All right, you're quite welcome there you go. What a
great guy and full of knowledge. And again that's the
easy Breed Ventilation system, but we weren't talking just about that.
We're giving you a solution to a bigger problem, which
is indoor air quality. By the way, if you want
to call easy breathe as you said, it's eight six
six eight two two seventy three twenty eight and it's uh,
(44:19):
I think I had that right. On the prices, it
might be two hundred and fifty dollars off the Easy
Breed Ventilation system all this month. All right, We thank him.
Coming up next, hit you all right, Our phone number
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Two three talk. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
Well, it is the weekend. Welcome aboard, you're at home
with Gary Sullivan. A very special hour we're going to
dedicate to educating everyone about indoor air quality. You know,
as our building practices change year in and year out,
and you know, we we make our homes more energy efficient,
(00:53):
we try to save energy costs, but as we tighten
things up, don't exactly. In other words, you can create
a staying an air mass in your house. In fact,
the EPA says indoor air qualities three to five times
more pollued than outdoor. So once a year we bring
our friend and Andre lacual in. He is an expert
(01:17):
on indoor air quality. He does also work for Easy Breathe.
You've heard me talk about that for fifteen years at least,
and we've kind of grown up with a whole problem.
And Andrea sits on a lot of different boards that
addresses these issues. And Andrea, welcome again at home of
Gary Salvin.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
How you doing, Oh great, Gary, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
All right, it looks it looks like the boys are
all doing good in their hockey.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. We're deep into hockey season right now,
so let's keeping us busy.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, well, thank you for spending an hour with us.
I certainly appreciate it. You still on a lot of boards.
I don't have all the initials after your name today.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, you know, there's been a couple where I have
dropped down, if you want to call it, that to
just being a regular member, right, because after ten years
on a board, it's.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Not somebody else's.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Place, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So yeah, but I'm still involved in all the associations.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, yeah, good for you. So I don't mean know
where to start. Why should we care about our indoor
air quality?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Sure, well you know you mentioned it earlier, how unhealthy
the indoor areas, And so what I want people to
understand is we breathe about twenty five thousand times every
single day. Right, That's a lot, right, And if you
think about the amount of money that's being spent and
a good thing, the kind of food we eat, making
(02:43):
sure we're eating you know, organic foods, or or what
we drink or you know, the suntan lotions that we use,
is things that we don't want to we don't want
to create cancer. Things like that. We think about all
that other stuff. I just want people to understand that
where we live. The home that is our biggest investment,
has a lot to do with our health because we
breathe every single day. That Aaron the Holt. So if
(03:04):
you take it back to what you said before about
it being unhealthy in there, and that's where we're stuck,
especially now in the winter. There are things that we
can do. We're already doing it in other aspects of
our life. We're already going down the food aisles and
making good choices there, right, We're doing all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
What we can do.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What we need to focus on is what directly affects
our health, which is breathing.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
So what influences the quality of indoor error? I certainly
sure molds. I mean we've been hearing about that in
the news, and you know, mold didn't become a problem
till we really started tightening our homes and that's been
forty years ago, so I'm sure mold's one of those.
But what other things influence indoor air quality?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So normal things like that we all know about temperature
and relative humidity, right, those things kind of affect it
and they infect it in a booth of direct and
an indirect way, meaning where you may or may not
run your here, you may or may or may not
run your heating system, your ahex system. So then if
you're not doing that because the temperature, then maybe we're
not getting air changes. But then there's other things like
(04:09):
like the chemicals that we introduce in our home. Everything
from what you know, many people may not use hairspray anymore,
but any sort of chemicals that we introduce in our home,
big ones are what we use to clean our house.
Ironically enough, right, so if you're spraying things that that
that that stuff will maybe land on the floors of
accounts where you want it. But if you're spraying things
(04:30):
where where does that have to go?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Where's that going?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And you made a reference to tightening up our homes,
like you know, we're gonna walk in the house and
bring mundy shoes in the house, We're gonna bring our
animals in. We're gonna cough, we're gonna sneeze, We're gonna
cook something that's gonna create all kinds of moisture.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Off a stove.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Where is all that going. If we're doing a good
job of tightening up our home, which is saving us
our money, we're saving us money, where is all that going.
And there's no surprise, you said, we've been tightening up
the home. You've been living with this for fifteen years,
they've been growing with It's no it's no surprise that
you know, allergens are spiking, are sure to be allergies,
and children are spiking and things like that. It's because
(05:07):
we spend so much time in this what I call
talxing environment.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Which is their home.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So so they're gonna be there if we have a
energy efficient home, and I hope you do, or you're
throwing a lot of dollars away, but we don't want
you to have an energy efficient home and be sick either.
So it's kind of the second half of the solution.
And I'm seeing more and more things being thrown out
(05:36):
there as solutions. We've talked about air exchanging. I've here
air purifiers. I hear different chemicals that will kill different allergens.
I hear ozone machines, I hear you know what, So
there's are there all these solutions or do we really
(05:58):
have to treat a problem rather than trying to mask
the problem. I mean, and that's never a good idea,
But what correctly help me with that? I guess because
I get asked that question.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
A lot, and you bring up a great point, and
something that people need to understand is first and foremost,
we want to do what we call source control. Right.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
We want to control the source.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So that means a lot of times eliminating certain things, right,
eliminating certain products that we use or things like that.
So the number one thing that we do is source control,
eliminate the source. It sounds easy to say, but sometimes we.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Can't do that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
What if the source is your dog and the dander, right,
We're not elimiting the dogs. The source could be excess humidity, right, Well,
there's no eliminating that, but you can control.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That, right. So all those things that you mentioned, all
those products are good for what they're.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Intended for, and I highly recommend people if that's what
they're going to do, definitely do research because sometimes it
might be a uell. Sometimes it might be just what
you need. But sometimes those products may work in just
that one room that you're staying in.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
So number one is source control, meaning eliminate the source.
That doesn't mean a machine can do it. That means
you not introducing that source into your house. If that's possible.
If it's not possible, then we go to those alternatives,
which is those machines. And most importantly, let's be honest,
is that I know that that's my background, but is
ventilation is exhausting the air that's in your house outside
(07:29):
right right. You can buy every machine we want for everything.
You can have an ozone machine, you can have an
ion generation machine, you can have all the times. But
let's just get the air that's in your house, take
it outside where it gets diluted, and bring in fresh air.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
That's the best way to do it all.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So this is the start of my thirty ninth year
on this show. And the thing I started saying the
dash start to show is water is your number one enemy,
and by talking to you, it sounds like that could
be a source. Also. So the people that and you
know them and I know them that have a basement
that's got it leaks and either they're ignored it or
(08:09):
you get the phrase, well, it really only leaks when
it rains really really hard. But there's water in basements
and cross spaces without heavy rain. I mean, you can't
even see water that's in your basement. Is that a
fair statement?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That's a very first statement. And what people have to
recognize is water doesn't just take the form of the
liquid water that we drink or that we see them
into our basin.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know that it's been it's in a vapor form, right,
it's behind those block walls, and it seeks in.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Vapor form, right.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So so yeah, and if people could treat the air,
and let's say not treat, but let's look, people could
look at the air in their home as the way
they do well the water entering their home and think
of it the same way. You don't want water entering
your your based on a cross space, for sure, And
that's a whole other hour conversation you and I can
(09:04):
have it.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I'm sure your people.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Already educated on that you don't want water entering your home,
so you certainly don't want bad air entering your home,
you know, or or bad.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Air staying in your home. Right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So if people could think about it that way, I
think you're right. I think you know, water is the
number one, you know enemy to a home for sure.
But people also don't need to start.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
To think about about about air.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And and like you said, the theme has to people
have to understand it it's not a difficult thing to solve.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Right, you know, or to remedy right well, and it's
it's and it's almost like a maintenance to your home.
You know. Again, when we tighten things up, there's a
yan and a yang for everything. You know. Maybe we
the water I bring up because it's something we can
usually smell or see. Sure, molds and mildews when you
(09:56):
walk downstairs or getting near the cross space, they're they're
very prevalent. But just the amount of pollutants that we
have in our home. You talked about some cleaners that
maybe aren't a pH neutral cleaner, or new furniture or
new carpeting. Those off gas and they get trapped in
the home, just like humidity and those things. Sometimes you
(10:19):
can't smell them or see them or fail them. You
got to get rid of those two. Let's take a
little break. When we come back. I want to talk
about the whole process. You know, we're talking about there's
air scrubbers, there's air exchangings, and I've been focused on
(10:40):
the air exchanging. I think that is a smart way,
but it's also a difficult way to explain how it works.
So you're on the hot seat Andre and you know,
if somebody wants to give us a call and ask
about air exchanging, Danny can take your call and we'll continue.
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twenty one minutes after the top of the hour. Andrea Lacroix,
he is my guess. He is an air quality expert.
We've been talking about different ways to improve your indoor
air quality, and we kind of keep coming back to
the exchange the air. The air outside is healthier than
inside and most of our cases versus just scrubbing air
(14:29):
or spraying stuff to eliminate air particles and things like that.
So a lot of us as we've been trapped in
our homes with cold weather and snow. Andrea, if you
get a sunny day, sometimes you can just be sitting
on the couch and looking out the window and you
see things floating in the air. Is that just dust?
(14:51):
Is that a sign of bad air quality or what's
going on there?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sure, great question. And you know it's been forever, right,
I mean we talk about having that happen when we
were growing up in Grandma and Grandpa's house. This right,
But as our knowledge to your point, as our knowledge
about into air qualities getting getting more, we realize that
is an indication of pour into air quality. Right, Like,
think about that. Think about what you just said. If
(15:17):
you went to your kitchen, built up a glass of water,
came back and the glass of water looked like what
you just described hitting there on the app, would you
drink it? No, none of us would drink it. We
would dump it out right, And then why are.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
We breathing it?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah? Exactly. Well, so we talked again about different ways
to eliminate this, and we go back to that exchange
the air and I know, an easy breathe. Folks, if
you're not familiar with what it is, this isn't part
(15:52):
of your HVA system system HVAC system. This is a
standalone product. Maybe walk us through what it is and
how it works and what our benefits are.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Sure, so let's start with the basics. People. If you
live in a home and you're in your kitchen, there's
a range hood, right, there's an exhaustment why right, because
we create pollutants right there and it has to be exhausted.
You're in your shower, okay, showers and water closets will
have fans, right and standard Now it's code why because
(16:30):
those are pollutant sources.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So now let's take that on a macro level. Look
at the house. Our house, as we've just discussed for
the last fifteen to twenty minutes, is a pollutant source.
Some of it we bring in, some of it we create,
some of it already exists.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Okay, So what we've.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Decided with easy Breed is the concept of the ventilation fan.
Let's you know, no pun intended. Let's flip it on
its head, turn it upside down, and put that fan.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
In the basement.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
For a couple of different reasons. Number One, basements and
cross spaces are overwhelmingly your biggest source of pollution everything
and I talked about in the living space. That's true too,
but because of what we also talked about with water
and moisture. So the basement is a source of air pollutants. Okay,
so let's grab it at a source and blow it
outside at the same time that we decided to do
(17:20):
that and grab it a source again, similar to a
backrum or a ch or a kitchen rangement.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
So let's grab it a.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Source, which is the basement.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We were going to blow.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Enough air that we can then pull the air from
the living space down, okay, and exhaust it out instead
of the other way around. Right when I grew up
in a natak fan in my ceiling, right, we didn't
know at the time, but we were bringing air from
the basement up, and we were bringing that air up
through the living space into the bedrooms. Right. We don't
want to do that, So we decided to flip that
(17:49):
whole concept on its head, and we exhausted at the
source while at the same time pulling the air from
your home down into the basemin and out, creating these
six to ten air exchanges that you referenced earlier that
the EPA says are so important to have in your home.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So people right away, I'll say, oh, if we're bringing
air down, isn't that cost and we're pulling air out? Geez,
isn't that driving my energy cost up? It's like opening
a win again.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Great question. Great question.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
And I the way I usually answer that question is
I say, your house does an excellent job of throwing
out heat or cool there on its own without an
eventivation system. Right, warm air rises, We all that kind
of stuff. So, but what we're doing is we're moving
just enough air.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
We move.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't want to get all techy on you on
your people, but we move one hundred and twenty eight
to the feet permitted TFM. Okay, that's just enough to
create a nice downward pull in the air from the
living space. And then we rely on the natural replacement
that happens from opening and closing doors.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
That is some fresh air supply that comes in.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Your HVAC system. So while we are exhausting air out
on the base and it's it's it's important to understand
that we're not just simply blowing your heated and cooled
air out. We are blowing air out, but no more
so than if you had nothing in your house. And
you you know, you probably have other talks so you
talk about how.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Warm air rises, It goes up in your attic.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
It creates problems in the attic. Right, that's how we
do it.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, if it's insulation and ventilation and it's air exchanging. Well,
I got a ton more questions. Sit tight again. Thank
you for spending an hour with this. Andre. You're always
a great guest and very informative. And folks, if you've
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thirty three minutes after the top of the hour at
Home with Gary selvam Andre laqual He is our energy
energy well. He is an energy expert also but tight
home Expert, bad air quality and your home expert and
works at easy Breathe And I do want to kind
of mention the Easy Breathe. It is an air exchanging unit.
(22:56):
You can check it out folks at letter E, letter
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fifty dollars off during the month of January. If you've
heard us talk about this in the past. I'd really
recommend taking advantage of this. Andre we hear and I
get calls from my listeners all the time. Let's say, hey,
(23:17):
what about lights and duckwork? How about this spray? Won't
you know? How about this purifier? And again, I a
lot of times somebody's selling them lights in a duck work.
They don't even know if there's an issue in their
duck work. But if there's an issue in their duck work,
there's an issue in their house.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Correct, that's the great way to put it. Carry, yes, Yes,
So you're gonna it's exactly the greatest way to put it.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I would say yes, because then the duck work.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Is just the pathway for everything that's already in the home, correct.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Right, Right, So I like to tell people it's like, no,
it's like you cut your arm and you need fifteen
stitches and you just put a band aid on it.
Your problems are bigger than that. Your problems are bigger. Control, right, yeah,
control exactly exactly? Uh you mind if we take a
call not at all? Not all? Right? Well, let's let's
(24:13):
talk to Nancy. Nancy's in Toledo, Ohio. Nancy welcome.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Hi, thank you, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You're welcome.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
I wanted to when I go down to the basin
to do my laundry, I kind of noticed the smell
in the corner, but I don't see any any water
or moisture. And just recently I've noticed as I go
down the stairs, I smell it, and my grandkids have
a playroom down there, but I don't see any water
or moisture. I just have a smell.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yep. Well, I'll let you handle that one. Andrea, I'm
sure I get asked that question about one hundred times
a week, and so do you.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I do, I do? So what you would want to
look for is any again, any source?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
My guess is basements are notoriously low ventilation, right, if
any at all? Right, And corners are very corners are
always the case where you're going to find that stuff. Now,
it's easy to look and see on the walls and
presenting evidence of moisture build up that would cause that.
But again it's most likely, just especially if it's only
(25:22):
in one area, it's just a lack of ventilation and
getting air movement happening down there would probably solve them.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Right, right, so so again that easy breathe would be
perfect for your situation, Nancy, And again you agree. I
mean you need that exchange. It's kind of like, folks,
if you can just think about this, your basement would
be like your bathroom. All right, So you take a shower,
(25:53):
if you don't turn the ventilation on, you got water
dripping down the myria, water dripping down the walls. Eventually
you're gonna see mold underneath the window sill and things
like that. If you always use that fan, you don't
have a problem. Right, The basement's the same thing. You
may now see water dripping, but you probably got cardboard
boxes down there, or you probably got a dusty floor.
(26:15):
You probably got some wood right the joist and that
moisture just starts breeding micro organisms that start smelling, and
if you ventilate, you can literally cure the issue.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
And because you've talked about this before, because there's something
called the stack effect, right, which is the fancy words
for warm air rises.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So a Nancy situation, she mentioned she's starting to smell it.
It's coming from a corner, but she started smelling it
on the stairs, So that means that's the stack effect, right,
there by definition, which means that smell is starting to
get drawn across the basement and upstairs, so she's smelling
it on the stairs with nose with no solution to
(27:01):
If nothing's done, that smell will start to enter into
the home because of because of the stack effects. So
we don't want them. We want to capture it source
and get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And that's the key. Yeah, And folks, if you are interest,
I gave you the website of the letter E letter
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eight six six eight two two seventy three twenty eight.
So it's eight six six eight two two seventy three
twenty eight. Let's go to Jane. Jane welcome.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Hello.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Yes, I have one hundred year old house.
Speaker 8 (27:46):
Walk up at it jeel oil in the basement and
I wonder if that system would benefit me.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Which system your easy.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Breathe the easy Breeze.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, so that's a standalone system. And as Andrea
is talking, is changing out the air. Do you have
something to add to that, Andrea, I mean, it wouldn't
really matter what kind of heating and cooling system or
arrangement you have. If you've got a home that's energy tight,
(28:20):
you know, energy saving house, and you got maybe some
smells or something, it'll definitely help.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
It will.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And what I would suggest is with one hundred year
own home, just do a little dude due diligence and
look run the basement because some of these older homes
have lots of cracks and crevices in the foundations, and
so will we install the ventilation system. We don't want
to be pulling her in from that area, right, We
want to make sure we're pulling it from upstairs and down,
so we don't want to be introducing the air through
(28:51):
the if it exists. But in some older homes that exists.
I'm not quite sure about this one, but that's the one.
But yes, no matter what the heating system is, is
a ventilation system at one end of the basement would
definitely be a help for the spells.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And that brings up a good question also, is the
you folks can arrange installation of an easy breeze system.
It doesn't really require maintenance. It's an installation. I mean,
you can do it yourself, but it's a little bit
of a project. So you do have installation is available, correct.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
That's correct, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
We have professional installation available around the country, and we
have DIY packets where you can see how to do
it on your own if you want, and we're always
there to help with it even if somebody makes that
choice to do on their own.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
As you reference older, we're available all the.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Time for phone calls and support and any sort of
help as far as how to do the installation.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, all right, let's go to Pat in Delaware.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Pat, welcome, good morning, good snowy morning. Question, would you recommend,
if you've lived in like the La Metro area, would
you turn this off? Because if you're going to be
expelling air from your house, it's going to be drawing
air in from somewhere and will that be pulling the
(30:13):
particulate from the ad.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, that's a great question. I was I was wondering
when somebody is going to ask that question. But we
got to remember as sad a situation as that is,
thank god, it's not a normal situation. And uh, Andrew,
I'll let Andrea, I'll let you answer that. I haven't
asked you, but I think I know the answer.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, No, that is correct.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
If you do want to pull I always tell people
will remember that the content is pulling good air through
bad right, and if right outside that home is bad air, then.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
We're not going.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Then then you know you don't want to be pulling
that involved exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah. In fact, emergency rooms with people just living in
that area that maybe their homes were spared, a lot
of emergency rooms really filled up. They're telling people to
use mask and K ninety five masks. So obviously it's
a massive air quality issue. So pulling it in would
would not be advisable. So tell me about the size
(31:14):
of this unit. I you know, it doesn't fit on
the furnace, it doesn't fit on the air conditioner. It's
a standalone's it's not very big. It's probably not eighteen
inches wide, isn't.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No, it's not, as a matter of fact, it's we've
manufactured it so that the air duct shoot that goes
up and out your home can fit in between you know,
Q y fours. If you were to finish off a
basement so that only the bottom part where the brains
are of the unit are, which is like about the
size of the shoe box, I tell people, and that's
where they intake fans in your controls. There are install
(31:52):
options where that's the only thing you even see. And
all the duct work that goes up and out, and
I say duct work, it's not traditional duck work as
you mentioned you see in your HVAC system. It's a
thin white duck that goes up and directly to the outside,
right on the outside wall. So it's not ducktwork throughout
the house. It's a very very small unit. It's nice
(32:12):
and clean looking, professional looking, and it's the fan unit
is at the base of the unit right because that
we capture the area. We've captured the air at the
lowest level. We blow it up and we make a
ninety degree turn blow outside once we get above grade,
and it's all finished from the inside and on the outside,
it looks just like a drive event. The unit itself.
The footprint is to your point, the footprint is quite small.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I also always want to remind people too without having
something like this if you have and we almost all
have an issue in a basement or cross space and
you're not evacuating that air out, and you're running your
furnace motor on on. You're stirring that and sending that
(32:58):
up all through the house, all all floors of the house,
and that filter you have is not filtering all this
stuff out. That is fair to say, that's.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Very fair to say, very And I've always I thought
about this back during COVID when people when when some
people were thinking it was smart to isolate people in bedrooms. Right,
And if you think about you know, you think about
your HVAC system, it's the lungs of your home. So
take even take COVID out of it, just if someone's
sick and someone is you know, contagious, putting it your
(33:32):
HAX system does an excellent job of just distributing air
throughout your house. And unfortunately, what it's going to do
is all the bacteria that's in that air is going
to be the same thing. Sure, right, So yeah, just
just running your your HAX fan on on. That's not ventilation, right,
that's moving air, but not necessarily in a great way.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Stick one more break, we'll wrap things up under lecuoix.
He is my guest, he is with easy breathe also
an indoor air quality expert, and we'll continue our converse station.
You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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their homes for winter, especially they're plumbing. Hi this scarysalvan
for Roto Ruter plumbing and water cleanup. I want you
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(36:59):
many of us are, at least in the colder regions
of the States, trapped indoors, a lot of snow, a
lot of cold weather. And Andre Lacroix, he is with
easy breathe and very involved in air quality inside our
homes and under I guess are we making progress educating people?
(37:21):
I feel like today, even using the analogy with a
bathroom fan, I think people are starting to catch on.
How about overall? Are we making progress?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
We are? We're making a lot of progress, right And
let me give you kind of an odd example is
the absolute proliferation of all of these plugins and air
fresheners and things like.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
That in the home right now. The negative of that.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Is, you know, you could look at just a negative
and say, well, these people are introducing chemicals because that's
what they're filled with, and so that's a whole other
education that we have to have. But the fact that
they're that's so prevalent is because people were recognizing there's
a problem in their home. So obviously more education is needed.
But yeah, we are making I think we're making a huge,
huge push. People are more I've been talking not only
(38:12):
with you, but I've been talking about indoor air quality
for years and years and years, and sometimes it's been
to just a group of other indoor air quality nerds
like myself, right, But now I'm getting in front of
a lot more people that aren't in the business but
just want to know because they've heard about it. And
so that's a great thing.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
That's a great thing, and the home improvement industry as
a whole is paying more attention. I know, waterproofing companies
are doing encapsulations in cross spaces and trying to really
control the source. So the problem, which in some cases
is is water and we're seeing that, you know, helping
(38:52):
the situation.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
Also, yes, I would agree, And what you know, as
the manufacturer of Easy Reason, what I'm seeing is to
your point, a lot more companies out there want to
carry our products because they recognize.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
We're in the home. We're repairing something in the home.
Let's stick with waterproofers because that's that's what you're referenced, right,
these guys are already in the home, They're already in
the basement. These guys, the smart waterproofers are the ones
that are saying we're we already know how to take
care of that physical bulk water, but we can also
take care of your water vapor too with this new product,
with this easy breath. So yeah, yeah, and that's a
(39:28):
great thing that it's being driven by the industry, which
is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I know a lot of times people even call me
and say, hey, Gary, we hear about radon. Will the
easy breed take care of our raidon problem? And I
go like, well, you guys don't actively market that it
removes raight on, but it it does, because that's part
of bad indoor air quality. You know, it gets into
the home. But again, the easy bree is taken out
(39:54):
of the home, taking it out of the home.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Also, Yes, and that's exactly right now.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
We are not a rate on reduction system, and.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
We can't but no, we're not. But but to your point,
you know, if it's entering a home and our goal
is to evacuate the air at its source. Then whatever
you're putting in, let's just say, let's just say you
decided you want to put in, you know, a blue
tinted air. You know that, you know, you're you're smoking
up the basement, you know, just for testing, right, to
(40:23):
evacuate that whatever it is, it's entering the basement, We're
evacuating it out.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And rate on.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
And I'm a rate on guy, right, I do rate
on testing, and all the rate on testing that I've done,
the rate on levels have lowered after these readings have
been installed. But that's not the solution to rate on reduction, right,
It's not the only solution, obviously.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
And it's a big area we're talking about. We're talking
about things that are off guessing, we're talking about gases
that are getting into your house, and we're talking about
how humidity. We're talking about getting rid of crumby air
that's trapped. Yeah, and the only way you're going to
do it is ventilate it. So yeah, you know, yeah,
and your point, no, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I would just say a fam sorry that when people
are putting in carpeting or putting in friendship, you made
a reference before about that new smell of the new
smell of carpeting. That's not a good smell. That's not normal, right.
RF gassing is not a natural process, right, so we
need to take care of that.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, I still like to smell, though. I agree, it's
like a new car. It's like a new car. So
Andre the folks at easy Breathe will help my listeners
if they give a call on Monday, correct, I mean
they can discuss because every house is a little bit different,
everybody's needs a little bit different. Some people want to
(41:44):
know a lot about uh, you know, the installation, and
they can call eight six six and then it's a
two breathe b R E A T h G. It's
that simple. Or eight people today, yeah today, okay.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Today we have we have a call center that's open.
They'll take your message, you know, but if it's if
it's front of mine right now, you call, leave a
message with our calling service and then you're then we'll get.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Right back to you on Monday.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
That's great. And again it's eight sixty six eight two
two seventy three twenty eight and it's easybreed dot com.
If you want to do a little research before you
make that call, but it's it certainly is a problem
that needs to be addressed. And I'm sure every time
an easy breeze installed, because I've experienced this. It's one
(42:34):
of those investments you make in your house and after
it's done, you go like, wow. I mean you get
that feedback from your customers. I'll bet you can smell
the difference.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Oh, you know what we have. We have weekly meeting
in our offices. And one of the things you know,
as you know, your militeniers might not know, but my
wife and we own the company together, right and so Erica.
One of the things that Eric introduced, and I think
this is one of the reasons why she's such a
wonderful human is that every week when we have our meetings,
she'll read off a customer testimonial. You know, we're in
(43:05):
our offices in Ohio, but but if we can hear
from somebody from California or Iowa or Delaware or wherever,
and and and read that testimony about how happy they are,
it just is It just brings a smile of a
team space. Sure, and we get them all the time,
and there's nothing there's nothing better than being able to
read those for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Well that's that's awesome. And make sure you tell Eric
I said, Hi, and I I really do appreciate you
spending an hour with us. I know that's a lot
of time. But I think you're you're you're kind of
like me. You could talk about this stuff on and
on and on because it's it's it's it's a big
issue with kind of when you really think about it,
(43:45):
A simple solution.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Couldn't couldn't say it any better.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Gary, Very good, all right, keep living life. Thank you much, Andre.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Thanks Gary, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
All right, you're quite welcome there you go. What a
great guy and full of knowledge. And again that's the
easy Breed Ventilation system, but we weren't talking just about that.
We're giving you a solution to a bigger problem, which
is indoor air quality. By the way, if you want
to call easy breathe as you said, it's eight six
six eight two two seventy three twenty eight and it's uh,
(44:19):
I think I had that right. On the prices, it
might be two hundred and fifty dollars off the Easy
Breed Ventilation system all this month. All right, We thank him.
Coming up next, hit you all right, Our phone number
is eight hundred eight two three eighty two five five.
We're talking about your home. Happy to talk about your project,
your maintenance. And you're at home with Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
If you don't have a list of things to do
around the house, Gary will find something for you at
one eight hundred eighty.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Two three talk. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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