January 25, 2025 • 40 mins
Gary wraps up Saturday with your calls, tips and questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, best time of the day. I got to say,
good afternoon, welcome to our number four, and you're at
home with Gary Salvent as we work our way through
another weekend and the sun is out and it's over
freezing in the Danny, should we celebrate?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's thirty six oh raw thirty six here in Kenwood.
I haven't seen a convertible go by yet. It's getting time.
All right, let's get back to the phone calls. By
the way, if you'd like to join us, do so.
It's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
all right, Bill. What's the other question? Okay?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It has to do with the water lines? Now, my
house is so well insulated, and I have swimming noodles
that I find on the roads in the summer wrapped
around my water lines and the cross space as well.
I don't even have to use the furnace at night,
and it'll stay fifty degrees in the whole house until
it gets down below zero. So, being that I'm gonna
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put my house up for sale, I don't want to
risk a big plumbing bills, So I'm using the furnace
some nights right now, and I have a shut off
valve in the kitchen that kills and opens the water
to all three sinks and two showers in the house,
but not the outdoor faucets. And I notice that when
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I shut the water off, or if I leave the
water the shut off valve on, the sinks will get
or the faucets will get a very slow drip, but
if I shut if I put it on, they won't
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drip at all if the faucets are not open. And
in the kitchen sink, when the shut off valve is off,
when there's no water going to the faucets, the sink
faucet every five minutes or so will have about half
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a cup of water come up before it stops. And
I don't get why when the shut off I was
supposed to stop the water going to the sinks, why
there's water building up in the kitchen faucet.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, yeah, so your water shut off to the valve,
But the the faucets still leaking, you know those those
First of all, there's water still in that pipe and
it's not under you know, a lot of pressure, but
it can certainly still leak. And I'm not really again, Bill,
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I'm not really sure how you got that configured. But
you know, if you're shutting the total amount of water
off to the faucet, it's going to drip for a bit,
but it shouldn't continue to drip. I do want to
go back to that stucco too, because i'm first of all,
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and now it's kind of makes con sense. You're thinking
about moving, so you maybe not as concerned about how
long the longevity on that is. I'd consult a couple
people to take a look at it. It's really not recommended,
and I didn't say that, I said anything. I'd be recommended.
The more I thought about, during the break wood expands
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and it contracts and it flexes, and when it does that,
it'll it can crack the stucco. However, if you get
a weather resistant barrier on there and the laugh that
I talked about, and then put your base coat, your
brown coat, and then your finished coat, you know it'll
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probably be all right. But again, it's really not recommended,
and i'd get a couple other people to bid on
that and take a look at it. Anyway, hopefully I
helped you, and let's move to John John. Welcome, Hi Gary.
How you doing, yes, sir, just fine?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, I have a problem with the radon, and I
install the fan to suck it up through the floor.
And now I want to put in insulation in the attic.
I have six inches, but I can see the rafters,
and I want to put it in another six inches.
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But the matt saves says, if I put in six inches,
they have to put in seals. They want to steal
every crack and cranny in the in the house. Now
the radon is okay, Now will it be a problem
if I seal up all the cracks and crannies.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, I'm surprised they didn't seal that up when they
put in the mitigation system. So basically, basically what they're
saying is this. So you got the mitigation system in
goes through the floor, it sucks up the the radon,
it brings it through a pipe, it sends it out
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into the environment. But if there's cracks in the floor
and cracks in the walls and you know cracks, there's
still some rate on that can get into the house.
And now with insulation up in the attic being added,
the house is tighter. So they're saying, well, you got
to seal up the cracks and all that otherwise it's
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going to be over your four number. Okay, Well, I
don't know if that's going to happen, and neither to
you actually neither do they right right? Nobody knows, you know,
so I guess you know. I would say if you
only got if you're in Massachusetts and you only got
six inches of insulation in the attic, you should definitely
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put more insulation in the attic. In fact, you could
probably put another foot in the attic. And if you
did that, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to
seal up all the cracks. But I don't know if
it's you know, if you didn't seal them up, I
can't tell you if it would be over the four number.
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Well, we tighten the house. You know, if they sealed
them up, A tighten the house. If there was rad on,
wouldn't it confine it to the house.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, right now the raid on, A lot of the
raid on is being mitigated underneath the slab, right and
then we're tightening the house up. So what they're saying
is our mitigation system is going to remove most of
that rad on, but there may be some that sneaks
into the house, and if you really tighten up your house,
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you may have a problem. So really, what they don't know.
But what they're saying is that makes sense. It makes
sense to me, it makes sense to you. They're just saying, hey,
just be be mindful of this. So i'd tighten up
my house. I'd probably seal the cracks in the floor myself,
and then, you know, if I wanted to have my
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house tested again, I would and see where it's at.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
All.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Right, now, would you put in the bats?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Would you put in the loose insulation in the attic?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It doesn't matter. I mean, if you do the bats,
do it cross perpendicular to what's in there? It really
doesn't matter, you know. Uh, just you know, make sure
your soft events are still open. If you blow it in,
you'll probably have to put baffles up, you know, along
the trusses, uh, to keep that air shute. But it
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doesn't matter. I mean, for every inch of insulation you'll
put in there, you'll probably pick up like an R
three or an R two and a half per inch
of thickness. All right, okay, all right, okay, very good.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You bet you take care, Bye bye all right, you
can join us. It's eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five and uh jump on board. Happy to
talk to you about your home, Kim, and sure, sit tight.
I'll get you right after the break. As we continue.
You're at home with Gary Salvan right here in fifty
five car see the talk station all right, back here
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we go, twelve eighteen it is, and uh we'll get
back to the phone calls. By the way, if you
want to join us and you've been trying to get
through all day, now is a good time to call
because there's some open lines and you can try seven
for nine fifty five hundred if you'd like, and we'll
get to you right away. Charise, welcome. Did I get
your name right, sir?
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
All right, very good, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
I have a colonial house. My family room and kitchen
is in the back of the house, okay, and I
have gutters near the family room, and I got it
cleaned before the winter, you know, good, and prush it
with water. The down spouse were all clear. Now. What
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happened was when it's snowed frohow the gutters were full
of snow and it got ice. I stopped, you know,
because the weather, the temperature went down, and also I
had some snow on the roof when the temperature was
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a little bit up. For a short period of time,
the snow on the roof started melting, but the snow
in the gutters did not melt, and that water had
to go somewhere. It backed up in my family room,
and I have a wet, big wet spot on the
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ceiling of the family room. And I was wondering, again,
the temperature is going to go up next week, and
how can I prevent water backing up in the family room.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, yeah, well that is a problem. So what that
is called charies, It's called an ice stam And what
happens is the overhang that goes from the roof and
extends beyond the house. Obviously there's no house underneath it,
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so there is no warmth that warms the underbelly of
that gutter. So you described it beautifully. As the snow melts,
the water trickles down the roof and it gets into
the gutters which is hanging over the house, which is
very cold. It's colder than the ref of the rest
of the roof, and it freezes, and quite honestly, it
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could happen even without gutters, and that ice dam forms,
and unfortunately, as you describe it, that's exactly what happens.
Is the water hits the ice dam, and the water
flows up the roof under the shingles and you know,
under the tar paper if there is, and enters the house.
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So how do you so let me tell you a
couple of things, just in a little education on how
why an ice dam forms. When you have ice damps,
it's usually a sign that you don't have enough insulation
in the in the attic itself. So the heat of
the house once it starts warm, and that that underbelly
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of that roof forms up fast, and of course you
know it's still cold on the overhang. So after we
get all the other issues straightened out, have somebody or
you checked to see how much insulation you you have,
you know in the in the attic area, I would say,
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where you're at, you probably want sixteen eighteen inches of insulation, okay,
So try to remember that number. As far as how
in the world do I get that water down the
roof and out of way from my house? We got
to get the ice out of the gutters. How do
you get the ice out of the gutters. What I
would do if you can safely get up there and
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put some not rock salt, but some calcium chloride and
sprinkle that along the top, just like you would melt
ice on a sidewalk. Or you could even put it
in the calcium chloride into like some pantyhose and lay
that on top of the ice. That will melt it.
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Whether it melts it fast enough, I don't know, but
we got to get that ice melted. And they even
have things, you know, again better insulation that would help
also next fall, if you're concerned about it. Again, they
have gutter cables that a roofer can install where they
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put a salt tooth pattern on the roof, goes up
about two feet and it's a salt tooth pattern. Then
the cable lays in the gutter and that just heats
that air area to thirty eight degrees so it doesn't
allow freezing to occur.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Oh okay, So.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So you know, if you can get up there safely,
I would. I would do it. If you can. I'd
get somebody that you know, possibly can.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
This call some chloride. Is that available, uh, any hardware
store or it should be.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I mean, the quick answer is yes. But you know,
with the amount of snow we had, I don't know
what their supply is, but that's what you want to use.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Yam, Is that liquid or is that like a salt?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's it's like little white pebbles. It's like a salt,
but it's not as corrosive as salt.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Okay, And I just lay it on the gutter, lay.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It right on the top of the ice dam, or
sprinklet into the gutters if the ice dam is below
the roofline and just in the gutters.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Oh, so that will melt dice and then water control, right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And even if it gets up into the forties or something,
I mean, if it gets warm enough, you know, a
hose in hot water will melt it. Yeah, but you
just got to make sure that water is going into
the gutter and not going up the up the roof.
But yeah, it's it's yeah, it's a common problem this year,
it really is.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
I want to melt that snow, but I don't know
how I can do that. Yeah, with all the snow
in my deck and around the right house, I have
a hard time to put the ladder.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
And yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, Well if you've got a
roofer that you can contact, you might contact a roofer
and see if he can help you with an ice
dam Tell him you have leaks in the house and
you know, you know, maybe it's something they can get
up there and melt that for you. Or maybe they
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can pull off the gutter and then replace the gutter
in the springtime to prevent more damage. Uh, that might
be an idea for you also, so a roofer may possibly,
you know, tackle that project for you. Thank you much
for the call, good luck. I appreciate your call, and
I understand how frustrating that is. All right again, the
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numbers eight hundred eight two three eight two five five,
or you can dial straight up at seven four nine
fifty five hundred. Let's go to Mike.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Mike, welcome, Yeah, afternoon, sir, Yes, sir, yeah, I want
to see if you knew of a good granted cleaner
and a sealer a brand name.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, there's Yeah, there's a good cleaner. Jaws makes one.
But Granted Gold makes a cleaner, they make a polish,
and they make a granite sealer if you want to
go that way. The Granite gold is available in hardware stores.
Some grocery stores. So the cleaner, and again, are you
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sure it needs ceiling? Have you ever sealed it before
or anything?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I have it when when the company first installed it,
they cleaned it, they polished it, and the guy said,
you know you should.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Keep up on it.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Okay, Well I told you.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Nine months to a year.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yep. So here's a little test you can do, Mike,
is if you take a little tablespoon or teaspoon of
water and just put it on the granite countertop. If that,
you know, sits like a freshly waxed car. With water
on a freshly waxed cart, it's probably fine. But you know,
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in other words, that that bubble of water, that doll
up of water will just sit there. If it starts
dissipating after about forty five seconds, you got to get
a sealer on their asap.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
Okay, Granite Gold.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Granite Gold is the is the company name. They make
all kinds of granite products, from polishes to cleaners and
of course the sealers. But yeah, that's what I would use.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
That's what you can buy at the Big Orange store.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
If they don't have that brand, I'm sure they have
a granite sailor. I don't know if they carry the
granite goal A lot hardware stores do carry it. Even
some grocery stores carry it. I'm sure discount stores carried
it's it's it's a popular granite sealer.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Okay, I'll check that out, sir.
Speaker 10 (17:31):
I appreciate your time, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You bet you take care, all right, And that is
a uh, that's a good tip. There's different and I'm trying.
I'm trying to remember, and I kind of forget. I
can't remember if it's a darker colors or more porest
than the lighter colors. I just don't remember. But there
is a difference in the porosity of granted also where
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it comes from.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But that little test and you've heard me talk about
that test for when it's time to stain a deck,
it's kind of the same thing you got to if
you're going to use a sealer. It's got a panetrate.
And by taking that little dollop of water on a
granite countertop. And again, if it's like a brand new
wax car and it stays there, it's protected, it's sealed.
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But if it starts soaking in, uh, you want to
get a sealer on there because you don't want to
have kool aid or wine or anything like that spilled
on because it could stain. All right, let's take a
little break, and we got barbed. Jim, Debbie. Sit tight.
We'll get right to you as we continue. You're at
home with Gary Salvan right here in fifty five care
see detalk station. All right, back at it we go,
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twelve thirty three. Not looking bad at all out there.
I know it's still chilly, but it's gonna get thirty
seven right now. Yeah, it canna be cloudy to mark
it and look like winter, but it's gonna be a
little warmer. What do you think, Denny, I'm off for that.
The warm weather is. Don't become a meteorologist. They're firing them.
Do you hear about that? That's only if you work
for a certain group. Yeah, I forget who it is.
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But yeah, it's not one of the stations in Cincinnati,
so they can't do that, or us for that matter. Yeah.
All right, let's get back to work. Let's go to
Barb Barb.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
Welcome, Hi, Gary.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
I have a question we have We've left recently had
our first floor renovated, and what I've noticed with this
really cold weather is the trim that they've installed is
beginning to crack, and I know it needs to be cocked,
even like the trim around the door, and you can.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
See like the little plate and the jagged you know,
it's like separating. And then some of the trim going
up the stairs starting to separate. And I know it's
the dry and the cold. My question is, but none
of the existing trim, you know that wasn't renovated, none
of that is doing that. So do I cock that
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or just way took? It's warmer and it'll go back together.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Well, well, but I think I would cock it or
i'd call them. You know, there's different ways to miter.
They're probably all at like forty five degree angles. Is
that's where it's cracking. Yeah, yeah, there's there's an art
to a miter, and I don't need to get into
all that, but I think what they've done is they've
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just cut a forty five degree angle. They didn't really
do it what they call a coping miter, or you
use a coping saul and it fits tighter. And when
you just have forty five degree angles cut, and you know,
wood shrinks, and you know, we talk about that all
the time, and you know that, and it's drier now.
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And I'm not saying, you know, I just bring it
to their attentions. I'd like to see what they said.
And if they just say, well, it's it's dry, they're right.
And you can cack it. I mean you can use
you can use a vinyl spackling compound in there. You
could use a wood filler, you could use an acrylic
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silicon ized cocking in there. I mean, you can do
multiple things. And I would do it now or have
them do it if they will, And but you're gonna
have to paint it.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Yeah, okay, which of those products would you advise that?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That depends how big that crack is. If it was
if it was between like if it was molding on
a on a floor to the drywall or crown molding
from them molding to the ceiling, I'd probably use akrylic
silk and ized cocking. If it was just a door jam,
you know, maybe a little if it's real narrow, just
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probably rub some you know, vinyl spackling in there would
probably fill it up enough.
Speaker 10 (21:59):
Yeah, and then it needs to be painted on it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Well, yeah, unless you got it white and that blends in,
but I'm never that lucky.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
Okay, all right, thank you for your health.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And you know, there's a classic example when we were
talking about the wood shingles and doing stucco over what
did I say? Yeah, wood shrinks, wood expands. That flexing
not installed properly would crack stuccough. Just that little flexing there,
there's movement there. All right, let's go to Jim. Jim.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Welcome, Hello, Gary, Yes, sir, I had a very large
deck installed two years ago with pressure treat a war,
and then the contractor fined it and put in an
Aposi your crylic paint on it. The deck was put
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on in the spring and by the fall shaps started
coming through the paint. And now this year the pain
is just peeling off. So I've got to redo it.
But I want to know how to do it to
prevent the problem. I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, how long ago? How long was that deck built
when he put the epoxy? First of all, I don't
think i'd ever put a POxy pain on a wood deck.
But how long did he wait before put the epoxy
pain on there?
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Probably six months?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, Well, there's two big problems. Number one is it
should not have been put on in six months, and
that's the wrong thing to put on a wood deck.
I can tell you exactly what happened. I mean that
would unless it's kiln dried. What you got going on
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is exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Supposed also be pressure treated.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know what. They pressure treat that though
with right water and it's infused into that wood. And
the rule of thumb is this, and it is a
rule of thumb, but the rule of thumb is if
you use a penetrating stain, you can apply that probably
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within three months. If it is pressure treated wood and
you want to put a coating in other words, it's
not penetrating in there. It's a coating. It's paint or
it's an epoxy as you said, or solid color stain,
and it's a crylic which has a hard time going
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into pressure treated wood to begin with. You have to
wait a year. Okay, So what happened is that wood
was not it's hard to say it wasn't thoroughly dried,
but that's really what it was. It wasn't dried enough
so that in acrylic coating could bite into that wood
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and not peel. And that's that's what's happening that Yeah,
it's still drying.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
I have this problem. Now what shall I do?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, yeah, it's it's a big problem. So I mean,
it's a really big problem. That's why I'm saying that.
You know it was it's it's done wrong. So you know,
do you know what products he used on the surface
of that deck?
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay, I think you got to have a conversation because
when you say what do I do, here's what it is.
You have to strip that coating off that deck. We
have to give it probably another six months to make
sure it's thoroughly dried. You want to moisture count below
five percent on that deck and then you can go
ahead and put whatever you want to put on it.
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But a POxy it is a crylic so it's breathable.
But you said a POxy and epoxies normally are not breathable,
which means if there's water vapor in that wood, it
can't get out, so the paint loses. So I think
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the choice of the coating is wrong. And I know
for a fact that they didn't wait long enough. So
to fix the problem, the coating has to be removed,
and I would use an acrylic water based solid color stain.
That would be advisable. And the reason I asked you
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what he used is I would have said, you know,
find out what he used, and then go to the
manufacturer and say, hey, how long can I I want
to use your product that I want to put it
on pressure treated wood? How long does that pressure treated
wood have to be exposed in the environment. I can
guarantee he's going to tell you a year.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Right, So to strip this off, just stand it off?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
No, no, no, I I don't. So they have deck strippers, okay,
that will it's you know, it's a liquid. You can
strip a deck with it, but I don't know if
it'll strip the epoxy. I mean there's something out there
that will strip it. In fact, if you go to
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if you go to a Sherwan Williams store, they have
a it's the paint strippers made by Dumont. It's du
M O N D Dumont Global. They have a test
kit where they have and it's the best paintstripp you
can get. You you can strip multiple layers, you can
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strip epoxys. You but we got to know exactly what's
on there. They got a test hit for ten bucks,
and you try this different solutions and whichever one begins
to strip that paint is the one that's going to
strip it off. So they make a they make a
peel away product, a Smart Strip Advance, the Smart Strip Pro.
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One of those threes will will take off anything. But
we got to find out which one it is.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Question. If I take a deck stander and sand it
as much as I can, excuse me, there's no a
primer I could put down that would adhere to what
is left.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
There's primers, But if it gets on the bare wood,
who says that wood's dry enough? Now?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Well, if I was to sand it and just let
it set for.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
A year, then yeah, Well here's the problem with sanding
is number one, the sanding may take it off, but
those boards are not flat like the wood floor you
have in your house. Okay, so you're gonna say edges,
and you're also going to do what they call burnish
the wood. So when you say and you know how
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smooth the wood is y and remember those that's linging.
That's the wood fiber that's been smooth and it's kind
of burnished on the top. So when you paint over
that it makes it even more difficult to get that
paint to soak into it.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Well, I appreciate the information, really, thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You took that very well, much better than I will
know me. Y, okay, Well you try to have a
good weekend, my friend. Take care, Jim. Thanks. All right,
let's take a little break, and we got Debbie and Judy.
Holy cow, what a disaster that is. I mean, oh ya,
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that made me sick thinking about it. He kept saying,
a big deck, that's it. That's even a big problem
on a small deck. All right, let's take a break.
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we go to one o'clock, we go till noon on Sundays,
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and I'm in the chair and can take your calls.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
And I'm here to take the calls.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And Danny Boyle will be poised and ready to bounce
on that call, even though there's no phone. It's all
computer now. Well, someways got to have the right button. Yeah, well,
that's what I mean. You hit a button instead of
just picking up the phone. All right, let's go to
do Debbie.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Debbie, welcome, Oh Gary, Thanks so much for you. I
will advise through the years. But the question I have
today is my friend was going to have his oil
tank filled in the basement. The oil company told him
that they wouldn't sell it anymore because the insured company
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is not going to ensure these tanks anymore. I wondered
if you'd go back.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It makes sense to me. I mean, I haven't heard that,
but I don't have an oil tank. So, but insurance
companies are getting you know, they're making a bet right
and if the odds are in the favor that that
could be a problem. They're not going to take that
bet anymore, and so they're doing it with roofs and
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everything else just because the amount of losses that insurance
companies are taken. So to me, it makes sense. I'm
sure they're you know, accurate. It may be just that.
It may be just one carrier, it may not be
across the board. What you may do is contact your
insurance company and say, hey, listen, I've got this oil
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tank in there. It's been there for forty years. I'm
ready to get oil. I just want to make sure
the house insurance still covers me.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's a good idea. Well, what I was going to
ask you, if I would decide to replace this, what
should be an expensive situation? What type of brand of
efficient HVAC system would you recommend?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Well, would you be hitting.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
A bedroom just you know, not a house or anythink.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, Well, here's what I tell everybody. First of all,
are you talking natural gas? Are you talking propane? Are
you talking electric?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I live in the country, so I wouldn't be natural
gas and I really don't want propane. So that pretty
much pushed me to electric, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Mm hmmm, Well, what I would do? And I know
this may sound like a cheap answer, but it's really not.
There's there's all these brands of furnaces and everything. There's
only about four people that make furnaces. What you need
to do is find a good HVAC company, So ask around,
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ask your neighbors. You know, carriers a big brand name,
you know American Standard. I mean there's you know Train
that's a good one. I don't know whom it makes what,
But there really is only about four manufacturers. But I
would say you're big ones like Carrier and Train in
different things like that, but an HVAC system where I
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always talk about finding a good HVAC company, They're going
to carry what they're really comfortable in, what they're trained in,
and what makes it successful because they're judged by what
they put in your house. So if you find a
good HVAC person, you're going to find a good brand
that they're using. I guarantee it.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay, Well, I certainly appreciate your information and I will
follow your advice as usual.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Very good.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I've loved looking all over the year.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
All right, deVie, thank you, appreciate it. All right, let's
go to Judy. Judy, welcome, Hi, Gary, Hi.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
I have some footnotes to the granite countertop I just
had granted installed yesterday. Okay, everything he was saying is correct.
I've got steel gray and it's a texture or the
other dark is denser, heavier. Here's what I learned though
about the care of it. Okay, if it's not sealed,
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oil can be one of the most damaging things on it.
Do not clean with vinegar or any kind of acid product, right,
and the steam. Don't be using a cockpot, ongoing or
anything that heats up on the steam because they use
a two part epoxy. I think it's about yes, expansion contraction.
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He does more damaging than water. When he sealed mine yesterday,
he tore double sheets of paper towel he got several ready,
and liquid golds like this because I've got it too.
He poured it on, smeared it all over. Anything splatters
anywhere else, it won't hurt. And then he said, let
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it sit thirty seconds a minute at the most and
then start drying. If you don't, if you let that dry,
even liquid gold, it can create a hate. It's almost
impossible to get off.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well, it's true because it didn't.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Penetrate right well, and it's you know, it's not like carwax.
Wax drive first, so he had you know, pre torn
off paper tannels to quickly drive you know, working sections.
And in this case he was actually pouring it on
the countertop. It was you know, it looked like it
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was too much, but this is.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
The ex well, just wiping it off, Yeah, exactly. That. Granted,
Gold Company is kind of interesting company that I was
talking about. U. Yes, to give you a little faith
on them.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
They actually and I do use their products on other things.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, they have that's like a four generation company. The
company or the founders of it were actually from Midday.
They were actually granted dealers, and now they're probably one
of the biggest ensures of granted countertops. Okay, okay, you
know everybody's got insurance for this, that and the other thing,
but they actually write the insurance using a care system
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like you were just educated on. But you're exactly right
on everything you say.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
But I did ask him. I said, because they left
extra here, I'm supposed to do it again in six
months and then a year, but I'll do the water test.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But he did.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
I mentioned granite gold. I said, when I no longer
have this product available, and he said that wouldn't be fine.
At least one other store that I talked to before
I made my decision, that was one of the two
products they recommend the sealing with this granite gold, just
to caution him it needs to be sealed. And because
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like I said, they said, oils, cooking oils whenever it's
one of the worst, and don't let the sealer dry. Yeah,
myre beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And tell me again already forgot The darker ones are
more dense.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
They are more dense, okay, and they way more I get.
He started to tell me pork probably pork cubic foot
or something. But the darker color is a more dense stone.
And I don't know what country mind came from. I
was asking everybody that too. I think a lot of
ours around here maybe comes from South America.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's curious. It is interesting. I used
to be really up to speed on a lot of
different granites and stuff, and I just haven't been of late,
but I used to know all the companies and all
the different hardnesses, and it was really fascinating. In fact,
I was in Italy one time and I thought I
was looking at snow capped mountains and the person just
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left at me because that's not snow, that's granted. And
you know, yeah, the shelves of it.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I watched the thing on PBS recently, exactly what you're
talking about. Yeah, and all and those big huge tunks
that will fit in your living room. Yeah, and I
think I think probably the best would probably come from Italy.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah. Yeah, they were saying they were even showing where
the marble. There was parts of marble where it was
cut for the Roman Empire. It was up on a mountain.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
It's like, oh my goodness, it's like it's like it's
the country, solid rock.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, exactly, I thought I'm looking at snowcapped mountains. A
guy laughing at me. Ye, well.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
I really didn't want Granted originally.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
What were you looking at at a lot of people
now looking at quartz. That's another thing. It's really interesting
watching countertops. You know, we started with you know, wood countertops,
and it was lambin at countertops, and then it was
the oh what Cambria, No, nope, that's what Korean, Korean,
And then we went into the different synthetics and then
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Granted white people liked him and white people didn't like them,
and now we're in the quartz and very cool stuff.
It's neat to watch the progression. And certainly we talk
now about coating over for mica countertops and you know,
with the dich coatings and stuff to make them look
like marble, make them look like Granted, And that too
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is pretty dug gone interesting. All right, Well that's gonna
wrap up one day, that's for sure, Danny, and a
busy day. It was a busy day one And don't
forget if you didn't get that to listen to the
Zalor interview about the some pumps and the backup some pumps.
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Pick that up on the iHeart app. Just type in
that Home with Gary Sealvan. Danny's got it listed all
about some pumps you can learn and I think you'll
find some good information there, because when the snow melts
and then the spring rains come, those sump wells and
some pumps are the protection to our homes. All right,
Danny boy, thank you very much, busy, it wuz good,
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Lord willing. Will both be back tomorrow for more At
Home with Garry Sullivan
Well, best time of the day. I got to say,
good afternoon, welcome to our number four, and you're at
home with Gary Salvent as we work our way through
another weekend and the sun is out and it's over
freezing in the Danny, should we celebrate?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's thirty six oh raw thirty six here in Kenwood.
I haven't seen a convertible go by yet. It's getting time.
All right, let's get back to the phone calls. By
the way, if you'd like to join us, do so.
It's eight hundred eight two three eight two five five
all right, Bill. What's the other question? Okay?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It has to do with the water lines? Now, my
house is so well insulated, and I have swimming noodles
that I find on the roads in the summer wrapped
around my water lines and the cross space as well.
I don't even have to use the furnace at night,
and it'll stay fifty degrees in the whole house until
it gets down below zero. So, being that I'm gonna
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put my house up for sale, I don't want to
risk a big plumbing bills, So I'm using the furnace
some nights right now, and I have a shut off
valve in the kitchen that kills and opens the water
to all three sinks and two showers in the house,
but not the outdoor faucets. And I notice that when
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I shut the water off, or if I leave the
water the shut off valve on, the sinks will get
or the faucets will get a very slow drip, but
if I shut if I put it on, they won't
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drip at all if the faucets are not open. And
in the kitchen sink, when the shut off valve is off,
when there's no water going to the faucets, the sink
faucet every five minutes or so will have about half
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a cup of water come up before it stops. And
I don't get why when the shut off I was
supposed to stop the water going to the sinks, why
there's water building up in the kitchen faucet.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, yeah, so your water shut off to the valve,
But the the faucets still leaking, you know those those
First of all, there's water still in that pipe and
it's not under you know, a lot of pressure, but
it can certainly still leak. And I'm not really again, Bill,
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I'm not really sure how you got that configured. But
you know, if you're shutting the total amount of water
off to the faucet, it's going to drip for a bit,
but it shouldn't continue to drip. I do want to
go back to that stucco too, because i'm first of all,
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and now it's kind of makes con sense. You're thinking
about moving, so you maybe not as concerned about how
long the longevity on that is. I'd consult a couple
people to take a look at it. It's really not recommended,
and I didn't say that, I said anything. I'd be recommended.
The more I thought about, during the break wood expands
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and it contracts and it flexes, and when it does that,
it'll it can crack the stucco. However, if you get
a weather resistant barrier on there and the laugh that
I talked about, and then put your base coat, your
brown coat, and then your finished coat, you know it'll
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probably be all right. But again, it's really not recommended,
and i'd get a couple other people to bid on
that and take a look at it. Anyway, hopefully I
helped you, and let's move to John John. Welcome, Hi Gary.
How you doing, yes, sir, just fine?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, I have a problem with the radon, and I
install the fan to suck it up through the floor.
And now I want to put in insulation in the attic.
I have six inches, but I can see the rafters,
and I want to put it in another six inches.
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But the matt saves says, if I put in six inches,
they have to put in seals. They want to steal
every crack and cranny in the in the house. Now
the radon is okay, Now will it be a problem
if I seal up all the cracks and crannies.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, I'm surprised they didn't seal that up when they
put in the mitigation system. So basically, basically what they're
saying is this. So you got the mitigation system in
goes through the floor, it sucks up the the radon,
it brings it through a pipe, it sends it out
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into the environment. But if there's cracks in the floor
and cracks in the walls and you know cracks, there's
still some rate on that can get into the house.
And now with insulation up in the attic being added,
the house is tighter. So they're saying, well, you got
to seal up the cracks and all that otherwise it's
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going to be over your four number. Okay, Well, I
don't know if that's going to happen, and neither to
you actually neither do they right right? Nobody knows, you know,
so I guess you know. I would say if you
only got if you're in Massachusetts and you only got
six inches of insulation in the attic, you should definitely
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put more insulation in the attic. In fact, you could
probably put another foot in the attic. And if you
did that, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to
seal up all the cracks. But I don't know if
it's you know, if you didn't seal them up, I
can't tell you if it would be over the four number.
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Well, we tighten the house. You know, if they sealed
them up, A tighten the house. If there was rad on,
wouldn't it confine it to the house.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, right now the raid on, A lot of the
raid on is being mitigated underneath the slab, right and
then we're tightening the house up. So what they're saying
is our mitigation system is going to remove most of
that rad on, but there may be some that sneaks
into the house, and if you really tighten up your house,
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you may have a problem. So really, what they don't know.
But what they're saying is that makes sense. It makes
sense to me, it makes sense to you. They're just saying, hey,
just be be mindful of this. So i'd tighten up
my house. I'd probably seal the cracks in the floor myself,
and then, you know, if I wanted to have my
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house tested again, I would and see where it's at.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
All.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Right, now, would you put in the bats?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Would you put in the loose insulation in the attic?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It doesn't matter. I mean, if you do the bats,
do it cross perpendicular to what's in there? It really
doesn't matter, you know. Uh, just you know, make sure
your soft events are still open. If you blow it in,
you'll probably have to put baffles up, you know, along
the trusses, uh, to keep that air shute. But it
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doesn't matter. I mean, for every inch of insulation you'll
put in there, you'll probably pick up like an R
three or an R two and a half per inch
of thickness. All right, okay, all right, okay, very good.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You bet you take care, Bye bye all right, you
can join us. It's eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five and uh jump on board. Happy to
talk to you about your home, Kim, and sure, sit tight.
I'll get you right after the break. As we continue.
You're at home with Gary Salvan right here in fifty
five car see the talk station all right, back here
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we go, twelve eighteen it is, and uh we'll get
back to the phone calls. By the way, if you
want to join us and you've been trying to get
through all day, now is a good time to call
because there's some open lines and you can try seven
for nine fifty five hundred if you'd like, and we'll
get to you right away. Charise, welcome. Did I get
your name right, sir?
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Yes, sir?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
All right, very good, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
I have a colonial house. My family room and kitchen
is in the back of the house, okay, and I
have gutters near the family room, and I got it
cleaned before the winter, you know, good, and prush it
with water. The down spouse were all clear. Now. What
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happened was when it's snowed frohow the gutters were full
of snow and it got ice. I stopped, you know,
because the weather, the temperature went down, and also I
had some snow on the roof when the temperature was
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a little bit up. For a short period of time,
the snow on the roof started melting, but the snow
in the gutters did not melt, and that water had
to go somewhere. It backed up in my family room,
and I have a wet, big wet spot on the
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ceiling of the family room. And I was wondering, again,
the temperature is going to go up next week, and
how can I prevent water backing up in the family room.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, yeah, well that is a problem. So what that
is called charies, It's called an ice stam And what
happens is the overhang that goes from the roof and
extends beyond the house. Obviously there's no house underneath it,
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so there is no warmth that warms the underbelly of
that gutter. So you described it beautifully. As the snow melts,
the water trickles down the roof and it gets into
the gutters which is hanging over the house, which is
very cold. It's colder than the ref of the rest
of the roof, and it freezes, and quite honestly, it
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could happen even without gutters, and that ice dam forms,
and unfortunately, as you describe it, that's exactly what happens.
Is the water hits the ice dam, and the water
flows up the roof under the shingles and you know,
under the tar paper if there is, and enters the house.
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So how do you so let me tell you a
couple of things, just in a little education on how
why an ice dam forms. When you have ice damps,
it's usually a sign that you don't have enough insulation
in the in the attic itself. So the heat of
the house once it starts warm, and that that underbelly
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of that roof forms up fast, and of course you
know it's still cold on the overhang. So after we
get all the other issues straightened out, have somebody or
you checked to see how much insulation you you have,
you know in the in the attic area, I would say,
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where you're at, you probably want sixteen eighteen inches of insulation, okay,
So try to remember that number. As far as how
in the world do I get that water down the
roof and out of way from my house? We got
to get the ice out of the gutters. How do
you get the ice out of the gutters. What I
would do if you can safely get up there and
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put some not rock salt, but some calcium chloride and
sprinkle that along the top, just like you would melt
ice on a sidewalk. Or you could even put it
in the calcium chloride into like some pantyhose and lay
that on top of the ice. That will melt it.
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Whether it melts it fast enough, I don't know, but
we got to get that ice melted. And they even
have things, you know, again better insulation that would help
also next fall, if you're concerned about it. Again, they
have gutter cables that a roofer can install where they
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put a salt tooth pattern on the roof, goes up
about two feet and it's a salt tooth pattern. Then
the cable lays in the gutter and that just heats
that air area to thirty eight degrees so it doesn't
allow freezing to occur.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Oh okay, So.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So you know, if you can get up there safely,
I would. I would do it. If you can. I'd
get somebody that you know, possibly can.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
This call some chloride. Is that available, uh, any hardware
store or it should be.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I mean, the quick answer is yes. But you know,
with the amount of snow we had, I don't know
what their supply is, but that's what you want to use.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
Yam, Is that liquid or is that like a salt?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
It's it's like little white pebbles. It's like a salt,
but it's not as corrosive as salt.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Okay, And I just lay it on the gutter, lay.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It right on the top of the ice dam, or
sprinklet into the gutters if the ice dam is below
the roofline and just in the gutters.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Oh, so that will melt dice and then water control, right.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And even if it gets up into the forties or something,
I mean, if it gets warm enough, you know, a
hose in hot water will melt it. Yeah, but you
just got to make sure that water is going into
the gutter and not going up the up the roof.
But yeah, it's it's yeah, it's a common problem this year,
it really is.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
I want to melt that snow, but I don't know
how I can do that. Yeah, with all the snow
in my deck and around the right house, I have
a hard time to put the ladder.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
And yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, Well if you've got a
roofer that you can contact, you might contact a roofer
and see if he can help you with an ice
dam Tell him you have leaks in the house and
you know, you know, maybe it's something they can get
up there and melt that for you. Or maybe they
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can pull off the gutter and then replace the gutter
in the springtime to prevent more damage. Uh, that might
be an idea for you also, so a roofer may possibly,
you know, tackle that project for you. Thank you much
for the call, good luck. I appreciate your call, and
I understand how frustrating that is. All right again, the
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numbers eight hundred eight two three eight two five five,
or you can dial straight up at seven four nine
fifty five hundred. Let's go to Mike.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Mike, welcome, Yeah, afternoon, sir, Yes, sir, yeah, I want
to see if you knew of a good granted cleaner
and a sealer a brand name.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, there's Yeah, there's a good cleaner. Jaws makes one.
But Granted Gold makes a cleaner, they make a polish,
and they make a granite sealer if you want to
go that way. The Granite gold is available in hardware stores.
Some grocery stores. So the cleaner, and again, are you
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sure it needs ceiling? Have you ever sealed it before
or anything?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I have it when when the company first installed it,
they cleaned it, they polished it, and the guy said,
you know you should.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Keep up on it.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Okay, Well I told you.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Nine months to a year.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yep. So here's a little test you can do, Mike,
is if you take a little tablespoon or teaspoon of
water and just put it on the granite countertop. If that,
you know, sits like a freshly waxed car. With water
on a freshly waxed cart, it's probably fine. But you know,
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in other words, that that bubble of water, that doll
up of water will just sit there. If it starts
dissipating after about forty five seconds, you got to get
a sealer on their asap.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
Okay, Granite Gold.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Granite Gold is the is the company name. They make
all kinds of granite products, from polishes to cleaners and
of course the sealers. But yeah, that's what I would use.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
That's what you can buy at the Big Orange store.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
If they don't have that brand, I'm sure they have
a granite sailor. I don't know if they carry the
granite goal A lot hardware stores do carry it. Even
some grocery stores carry it. I'm sure discount stores carried
it's it's it's a popular granite sealer.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Okay, I'll check that out, sir.
Speaker 10 (17:31):
I appreciate your time, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
You bet you take care, all right, And that is
a uh, that's a good tip. There's different and I'm trying.
I'm trying to remember, and I kind of forget. I
can't remember if it's a darker colors or more porest
than the lighter colors. I just don't remember. But there
is a difference in the porosity of granted also where
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it comes from.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But that little test and you've heard me talk about
that test for when it's time to stain a deck,
it's kind of the same thing you got to if
you're going to use a sealer. It's got a panetrate.
And by taking that little dollop of water on a
granite countertop. And again, if it's like a brand new
wax car and it stays there, it's protected, it's sealed.
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But if it starts soaking in, uh, you want to
get a sealer on there because you don't want to
have kool aid or wine or anything like that spilled
on because it could stain. All right, let's take a
little break, and we got barbed. Jim, Debbie. Sit tight.
We'll get right to you as we continue. You're at
home with Gary Salvan right here in fifty five care
see detalk station. All right, back at it we go,
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twelve thirty three. Not looking bad at all out there.
I know it's still chilly, but it's gonna get thirty
seven right now. Yeah, it canna be cloudy to mark
it and look like winter, but it's gonna be a
little warmer. What do you think, Denny, I'm off for that.
The warm weather is. Don't become a meteorologist. They're firing them.
Do you hear about that? That's only if you work
for a certain group. Yeah, I forget who it is.
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But yeah, it's not one of the stations in Cincinnati,
so they can't do that, or us for that matter. Yeah.
All right, let's get back to work. Let's go to
Barb Barb.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
Welcome, Hi, Gary.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
I have a question we have We've left recently had
our first floor renovated, and what I've noticed with this
really cold weather is the trim that they've installed is
beginning to crack, and I know it needs to be cocked,
even like the trim around the door, and you can.
Speaker 10 (19:37):
See like the little plate and the jagged you know,
it's like separating. And then some of the trim going
up the stairs starting to separate. And I know it's
the dry and the cold. My question is, but none
of the existing trim, you know that wasn't renovated, none
of that is doing that. So do I cock that
(20:00):
or just way took? It's warmer and it'll go back together.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Well, well, but I think I would cock it or
i'd call them. You know, there's different ways to miter.
They're probably all at like forty five degree angles. Is
that's where it's cracking. Yeah, yeah, there's there's an art
to a miter, and I don't need to get into
all that, but I think what they've done is they've
(20:26):
just cut a forty five degree angle. They didn't really
do it what they call a coping miter, or you
use a coping saul and it fits tighter. And when
you just have forty five degree angles cut, and you know,
wood shrinks, and you know, we talk about that all
the time, and you know that, and it's drier now.
(20:49):
And I'm not saying, you know, I just bring it
to their attentions. I'd like to see what they said.
And if they just say, well, it's it's dry, they're right.
And you can cack it. I mean you can use
you can use a vinyl spackling compound in there. You
could use a wood filler, you could use an acrylic
(21:10):
silicon ized cocking in there. I mean, you can do
multiple things. And I would do it now or have
them do it if they will, And but you're gonna
have to paint it.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
Yeah, okay, which of those products would you advise that?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That depends how big that crack is. If it was
if it was between like if it was molding on
a on a floor to the drywall or crown molding
from them molding to the ceiling, I'd probably use akrylic
silk and ized cocking. If it was just a door jam,
you know, maybe a little if it's real narrow, just
(21:53):
probably rub some you know, vinyl spackling in there would
probably fill it up enough.
Speaker 10 (21:59):
Yeah, and then it needs to be painted on it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Well, yeah, unless you got it white and that blends in,
but I'm never that lucky.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
Okay, all right, thank you for your health.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
And you know, there's a classic example when we were
talking about the wood shingles and doing stucco over what
did I say? Yeah, wood shrinks, wood expands. That flexing
not installed properly would crack stuccough. Just that little flexing there,
there's movement there. All right, let's go to Jim. Jim.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
Welcome, Hello, Gary, Yes, sir, I had a very large
deck installed two years ago with pressure treat a war,
and then the contractor fined it and put in an
Aposi your crylic paint on it. The deck was put
(22:53):
on in the spring and by the fall shaps started
coming through the paint. And now this year the pain
is just peeling off. So I've got to redo it.
But I want to know how to do it to
prevent the problem. I'm happy.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Well, how long ago? How long was that deck built
when he put the epoxy? First of all, I don't
think i'd ever put a POxy pain on a wood deck.
But how long did he wait before put the epoxy
pain on there?
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Probably six months?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, Well, there's two big problems. Number one is it
should not have been put on in six months, and
that's the wrong thing to put on a wood deck.
I can tell you exactly what happened. I mean that
would unless it's kiln dried. What you got going on
(23:54):
is exactly what's going to happen.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Supposed also be pressure treated.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know what. They pressure treat that though
with right water and it's infused into that wood. And
the rule of thumb is this, and it is a
rule of thumb, but the rule of thumb is if
you use a penetrating stain, you can apply that probably
(24:22):
within three months. If it is pressure treated wood and
you want to put a coating in other words, it's
not penetrating in there. It's a coating. It's paint or
it's an epoxy as you said, or solid color stain,
and it's a crylic which has a hard time going
(24:43):
into pressure treated wood to begin with. You have to
wait a year. Okay, So what happened is that wood
was not it's hard to say it wasn't thoroughly dried,
but that's really what it was. It wasn't dried enough
so that in acrylic coating could bite into that wood
(25:06):
and not peel. And that's that's what's happening that Yeah,
it's still drying.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
I have this problem. Now what shall I do?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, yeah, it's it's a big problem. So I mean,
it's a really big problem. That's why I'm saying that.
You know it was it's it's done wrong. So you know,
do you know what products he used on the surface
of that deck?
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay, I think you got to have a conversation because
when you say what do I do, here's what it is.
You have to strip that coating off that deck. We
have to give it probably another six months to make
sure it's thoroughly dried. You want to moisture count below
five percent on that deck and then you can go
ahead and put whatever you want to put on it.
(25:59):
But a POxy it is a crylic so it's breathable.
But you said a POxy and epoxies normally are not breathable,
which means if there's water vapor in that wood, it
can't get out, so the paint loses. So I think
(26:20):
the choice of the coating is wrong. And I know
for a fact that they didn't wait long enough. So
to fix the problem, the coating has to be removed,
and I would use an acrylic water based solid color stain.
That would be advisable. And the reason I asked you
(26:42):
what he used is I would have said, you know,
find out what he used, and then go to the
manufacturer and say, hey, how long can I I want
to use your product that I want to put it
on pressure treated wood? How long does that pressure treated
wood have to be exposed in the environment. I can
guarantee he's going to tell you a year.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Right, So to strip this off, just stand it off?
Speaker 1 (27:07):
No, no, no, I I don't. So they have deck strippers, okay,
that will it's you know, it's a liquid. You can
strip a deck with it, but I don't know if
it'll strip the epoxy. I mean there's something out there
that will strip it. In fact, if you go to
(27:29):
if you go to a Sherwan Williams store, they have
a it's the paint strippers made by Dumont. It's du
M O N D Dumont Global. They have a test
kit where they have and it's the best paintstripp you
can get. You you can strip multiple layers, you can
(27:53):
strip epoxys. You but we got to know exactly what's
on there. They got a test hit for ten bucks,
and you try this different solutions and whichever one begins
to strip that paint is the one that's going to
strip it off. So they make a they make a
peel away product, a Smart Strip Advance, the Smart Strip Pro.
(28:14):
One of those threes will will take off anything. But
we got to find out which one it is.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Question. If I take a deck stander and sand it
as much as I can, excuse me, there's no a
primer I could put down that would adhere to what
is left.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
There's primers, But if it gets on the bare wood,
who says that wood's dry enough? Now?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Well, if I was to sand it and just let
it set for.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
A year, then yeah, Well here's the problem with sanding
is number one, the sanding may take it off, but
those boards are not flat like the wood floor you
have in your house. Okay, so you're gonna say edges,
and you're also going to do what they call burnish
the wood. So when you say and you know how
(29:06):
smooth the wood is y and remember those that's linging.
That's the wood fiber that's been smooth and it's kind
of burnished on the top. So when you paint over
that it makes it even more difficult to get that
paint to soak into it.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Well, I appreciate the information, really, thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You took that very well, much better than I will
know me. Y, okay, Well you try to have a
good weekend, my friend. Take care, Jim. Thanks. All right,
let's take a little break, and we got Debbie and Judy.
Holy cow, what a disaster that is. I mean, oh ya,
(29:49):
that made me sick thinking about it. He kept saying,
a big deck, that's it. That's even a big problem
on a small deck. All right, let's take a break.
You're at home with Gary Salvan right here on fifty
five K see the talk station. And again a quick reminder.
We do this show. We start at nine in the morning,
we go to one o'clock, we go till noon on Sundays,
(30:12):
and I'm in the chair and can take your calls.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
And I'm here to take the calls.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
And Danny Boyle will be poised and ready to bounce
on that call, even though there's no phone. It's all
computer now. Well, someways got to have the right button. Yeah, well,
that's what I mean. You hit a button instead of
just picking up the phone. All right, let's go to
do Debbie.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Debbie, welcome, Oh Gary, Thanks so much for you. I
will advise through the years. But the question I have
today is my friend was going to have his oil
tank filled in the basement. The oil company told him
that they wouldn't sell it anymore because the insured company
(30:53):
is not going to ensure these tanks anymore. I wondered
if you'd go back.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It makes sense to me. I mean, I haven't heard that,
but I don't have an oil tank. So, but insurance
companies are getting you know, they're making a bet right
and if the odds are in the favor that that
could be a problem. They're not going to take that
bet anymore, and so they're doing it with roofs and
(31:20):
everything else just because the amount of losses that insurance
companies are taken. So to me, it makes sense. I'm
sure they're you know, accurate. It may be just that.
It may be just one carrier, it may not be
across the board. What you may do is contact your
insurance company and say, hey, listen, I've got this oil
(31:41):
tank in there. It's been there for forty years. I'm
ready to get oil. I just want to make sure
the house insurance still covers me.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's a good idea. Well, what I was going to
ask you, if I would decide to replace this, what
should be an expensive situation? What type of brand of
efficient HVAC system would you recommend?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Well, would you be hitting.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
A bedroom just you know, not a house or anythink.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, Well, here's what I tell everybody. First of all,
are you talking natural gas? Are you talking propane? Are
you talking electric?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I live in the country, so I wouldn't be natural
gas and I really don't want propane. So that pretty
much pushed me to electric, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Mm hmmm, Well, what I would do? And I know
this may sound like a cheap answer, but it's really not.
There's there's all these brands of furnaces and everything. There's
only about four people that make furnaces. What you need
to do is find a good HVAC company, So ask around,
(32:47):
ask your neighbors. You know, carriers a big brand name,
you know American Standard. I mean there's you know Train
that's a good one. I don't know whom it makes what,
But there really is only about four manufacturers. But I
would say you're big ones like Carrier and Train in
different things like that, but an HVAC system where I
(33:10):
always talk about finding a good HVAC company, They're going
to carry what they're really comfortable in, what they're trained in,
and what makes it successful because they're judged by what
they put in your house. So if you find a
good HVAC person, you're going to find a good brand
that they're using. I guarantee it.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Okay, Well, I certainly appreciate your information and I will
follow your advice as usual.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Very good.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I've loved looking all over the year.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
All right, deVie, thank you, appreciate it. All right, let's
go to Judy. Judy, welcome, Hi, Gary, Hi.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
I have some footnotes to the granite countertop I just
had granted installed yesterday. Okay, everything he was saying is correct.
I've got steel gray and it's a texture or the
other dark is denser, heavier. Here's what I learned though
about the care of it. Okay, if it's not sealed,
(34:07):
oil can be one of the most damaging things on it.
Do not clean with vinegar or any kind of acid product, right,
and the steam. Don't be using a cockpot, ongoing or
anything that heats up on the steam because they use
a two part epoxy. I think it's about yes, expansion contraction.
(34:32):
He does more damaging than water. When he sealed mine yesterday,
he tore double sheets of paper towel he got several ready,
and liquid golds like this because I've got it too.
He poured it on, smeared it all over. Anything splatters
anywhere else, it won't hurt. And then he said, let
(34:52):
it sit thirty seconds a minute at the most and
then start drying. If you don't, if you let that dry,
even liquid gold, it can create a hate. It's almost
impossible to get off.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well, it's true because it didn't.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Penetrate right well, and it's you know, it's not like carwax.
Wax drive first, so he had you know, pre torn
off paper tannels to quickly drive you know, working sections.
And in this case he was actually pouring it on
the countertop. It was you know, it looked like it
(35:27):
was too much, but this is.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
The ex well, just wiping it off, Yeah, exactly. That. Granted,
Gold Company is kind of interesting company that I was
talking about. U. Yes, to give you a little faith
on them.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
They actually and I do use their products on other things.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, they have that's like a four generation company. The
company or the founders of it were actually from Midday.
They were actually granted dealers, and now they're probably one
of the biggest ensures of granted countertops. Okay, okay, you
know everybody's got insurance for this, that and the other thing,
but they actually write the insurance using a care system
(36:08):
like you were just educated on. But you're exactly right
on everything you say.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
But I did ask him. I said, because they left
extra here, I'm supposed to do it again in six
months and then a year, but I'll do the water test.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
But he did.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
I mentioned granite gold. I said, when I no longer
have this product available, and he said that wouldn't be fine.
At least one other store that I talked to before
I made my decision, that was one of the two
products they recommend the sealing with this granite gold, just
to caution him it needs to be sealed. And because
(36:48):
like I said, they said, oils, cooking oils whenever it's
one of the worst, and don't let the sealer dry. Yeah,
myre beautiful.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And tell me again already forgot The darker ones are
more dense.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
They are more dense, okay, and they way more I get.
He started to tell me pork probably pork cubic foot
or something. But the darker color is a more dense stone.
And I don't know what country mind came from. I
was asking everybody that too. I think a lot of
ours around here maybe comes from South America.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's curious. It is interesting. I used
to be really up to speed on a lot of
different granites and stuff, and I just haven't been of late,
but I used to know all the companies and all
the different hardnesses, and it was really fascinating. In fact,
I was in Italy one time and I thought I
was looking at snow capped mountains and the person just
(37:47):
left at me because that's not snow, that's granted. And
you know, yeah, the shelves of it.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I watched the thing on PBS recently, exactly what you're
talking about. Yeah, and all and those big huge tunks
that will fit in your living room. Yeah, and I
think I think probably the best would probably come from Italy.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah. Yeah, they were saying they were even showing where
the marble. There was parts of marble where it was
cut for the Roman Empire. It was up on a mountain.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
It's like, oh my goodness, it's like it's like it's
the country, solid rock.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, exactly, I thought I'm looking at snowcapped mountains. A
guy laughing at me. Ye, well.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
I really didn't want Granted originally.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
What were you looking at at a lot of people
now looking at quartz. That's another thing. It's really interesting
watching countertops. You know, we started with you know, wood countertops,
and it was lambin at countertops, and then it was
the oh what Cambria, No, nope, that's what Korean, Korean,
And then we went into the different synthetics and then
(38:59):
Granted white people liked him and white people didn't like them,
and now we're in the quartz and very cool stuff.
It's neat to watch the progression. And certainly we talk
now about coating over for mica countertops and you know,
with the dich coatings and stuff to make them look
like marble, make them look like Granted, And that too
(39:21):
is pretty dug gone interesting. All right, Well that's gonna
wrap up one day, that's for sure, Danny, and a
busy day. It was a busy day one And don't
forget if you didn't get that to listen to the
Zalor interview about the some pumps and the backup some pumps.
(39:41):
Pick that up on the iHeart app. Just type in
that Home with Gary Sealvan. Danny's got it listed all
about some pumps you can learn and I think you'll
find some good information there, because when the snow melts
and then the spring rains come, those sump wells and
some pumps are the protection to our homes. All right,
Danny boy, thank you very much, busy, it wuz good,
(40:03):
Lord willing. Will both be back tomorrow for more At
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