Gary Sullivan 6/22/2024 Hour 2

Gary takes your calls, questions and tips. We also talk to the good folks at Wow 1 Day Painting.

Episode Transcript

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Sullivan. Let me give you thephone number is we discussed the uh well
issues, the maintenance around your home, maybe even a little remodeling. It's
eight hundred eight two three eight twofive five and two of the phones we
go, we got Jay J WelcomeYellow. Yes, sir, I've got

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a question. Since you're on splitairs. I've got seven hundred and twenty
square foot cabin three, two bedroomand front room kitchen, and I've got
it running on two window units.Keeps it about fifteen to ten degrees below
the outside temperature, but nice anddry, so it's about bad. I'm

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thinking of putting in a split airand the only place I can put it
is above the front of the house. It's the tallest part of the ceiling
because it's a olden ceiling. Butto run the cord down to the compressor
and stuff outside, we'll have togo underneath my front porch, and it's
above ground by four foot because everything'sopen undereath circles. We're on blocks.

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So I'm wondering if that will hurtthat condensed unit outside underneath that porch.
Well, it's got to have ventilationfor sure, So I don't know how
much ventilation you have there. Iguess I maybe won't even really know the

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answer, but I know if youif you want to google UH split you
know, mini split units ventilation required, it'll talk about you know, the
perimeters around UH that unit and whatit needs to be. Also, one
of the things I would do ifI wasn't go ahead, No, I

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didn't say anything. I was goingto say, if you wanted to get
an HVAC company in there and justtake a look at it and just see
if it will even work, youknow, in terms of your where you
would have it placed and even howhigh, because you know, being war
mare rises, there'll be an advantageand also a disadvantage. You'd have to

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be setting the temperatures probably a littlebit differently, but I would probably have
somebody to actually visit the site,take a look at it, and give
me their input on it. Butyou can find the ventilation requirements. I
just don't know them off the topof my head, okay, but it
wouldn't hurt you. Don't think theyhave it over a covered area. Well,

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I didn't say that. It's hopingall the whole house is four foot
above ground, okay, and there'sno sidevents on it or anything. It's
all open under there. I wouldthink that would be okay, but I'll
double check with that Google. Yes, I appreciate it all right, very
good, thanks Jay, take careall right, and even placement. I'm

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not a guru on many splitz.I know where they should be used and
maybe where they're not you should beused. Another good use for mini splits.
And again it's not the end allto your answers, but if you
were to you know, wanted justa bedroom or separate rooms being done and

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not the whole house, and youdidn't want to cool the whole area,
that mini split might be an optionfor you, kind of like a room
air condition on steroids. Maybe that'sthe way I'll refer to it as.
All right, it's eight hundred eighttwo three eight two five five Shannon,
Welcome, Hi there, Gary.I called last Saturday. I'm back alrighty.

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I have on my outside wall wherethe house is brick and the brick
goes down to the ground and meetsan aggregate concrete patio. Uh huh.
There used to be something there.There's about a one inch gap that Some
places it's open, some places it'snot. It was either mortar concrete,
And I think I'm getting animals likesnakes and mice into the basement through that

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crash. Should I get a brickmanto fix it? Or is it just
well there might have issues. Itmight be something you can do too.
So this is so where the brickcomes down and you got a patio.
So where those two meet. Howlong is that vertical surface? Is like

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fifteen feet and there's just an areahere and there. That's correct. There's
probably about it's probably about twenty feetand there's an area here and there,
and there used to be concrete orwood there. You don't have the expansion
joists they put in with concrete.It may have been wood there that's righted
away. I think that's probably whatit is. And how big of a

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gap is there? I'm about aone inch wide. It's well three quarters
to a one inch wide and differentin different spots. How long is it
where it's an inch and it couldbe like a four inch gap, a
two inch gap here. You knowit's dotted all along that length of the

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bottom of the house. It's different. Okay, has the patio settled it
all where it's tilting towards the house, Not that I can tell, okay.
So what you could do in thereis you could put in a you'
athane crack filler. Even though it'sthree quarters of an inch, there's a

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way to fill that and to youknow, to keep animals or even water
from going in there and creating moreerosion. So as long as it's just
a gap, they used to putwood in there, and sometimes that wood

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would become rotten and you know,than animal dig at it and different things
like that. So one of theways to answer your question, who would
do that? I guess, youknow, a brick guy, a concrete
guy, they could do something withthat. I don't think I would really

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use a cementatious material. I wouldprobably pump like a euthane in there.
So what I would do is Iwould get in there and I would scratch
away in that area and see ifthere's a base that goes you know,
see if I scratch all the ifthere's wood in there and I scratch all
the way and it's rotten, I'dtake a screwdriver and I'd put it down

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in that crevice and see, isit, you know, a half inch
deep, is it a quarter inchdeep? Is it three inches deep?
Find out the depth of that,because we don't want to just be squirting
a euthane ceiling into there. Ifit's three inches deep without a backing,
you're just gonna waste product and it'snot going to help you. So let's

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just arbitrarily say I scratched it allaway and there's three quarters of an inch
depth in there, or an inchand a half depth. You can then
use what they call as a backerrod. A backer rod is like foam
rope and it comes in half inchthree quarter one inch, and it's pliable

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and you would just cut it tothe length you need it and you would
just push it in with your fingersdown into that crevice and even taking like
a chisel and pushing it down further. If you can get that down where
there's maybe three aces of an inchbetween the backer rod and the surface of
the concrete, that would be perfect. And then you get a product,

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which would be a self leveling urethanecrack sealant. It would go in a
heavy duty calocking gun and you wouldjust fill that area and it will become
pliable. So there's some flex toit, but it's going to keep animals

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in water and different things like thatout of there. Now, if you
go to that problem and it's likean animal comes with if it is an
animal, we don't know that,and they work on that thing for a
period of time and with their clawsthey could they pull it up. Yeah,
they could. And if that wasthe case, then I think I

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would forget about the flexibility and thenI would probably go in there and pack
it with a like an anchoring cementso you can get quick crets. Anchoring
cement, it's a powder. You'dmix it with water. It dries within
an hour. It's not flexible.If there's some settling, that's going to
crack. But if it's stable,it wouldn't crack animals? Evidence of animals

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use the crete concrete, yes,And there's a bunch of different kinds.
So what you're looking for is whatthey call anchoring cement. Okay, and
it's got a bonding agent in it. You don't have to put in a
backer rod. But if there wasan animal in there and there's just a
hole there, I would really lookat the euthane. I think the tendency

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for something to last longer would bein the Eurothane Ballpark, unless there's an
animal there to dig it up,and they'd have to struggle with it,
but they could get it up.Okay, all right, I don't think
it's animal. I think it's justrotted. Would Okay, I think you're
right. I think you're right.And if it's just rotted, would I'd

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definitely use the self leveling your thing? All right? Well, thank you,
all right, you're welcome. Thankyou. All right, we'll take
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We go twenty one minutes after thetop of the hour, taking your
calls regarding your home projects or repairsor maintenance. It's eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. Hey, you thinking about doing a little indoor
painting. Maybe where you're at it'sa little too hot to get outside and
yes them outdoor painting right now.But indoor painting, or maybe you just

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gotta get out of bed a littleearly and do that outdoor painting. Yeah,
Well, we're gonna talk about paintingwith uh Mike Serber or Serber or
Cyber. I just call him Mark. He's with Wow one day painting and
we're going to talk about you know, what kind of preparation you use,
colors, tools, materials, whetherit's a pros job or you can tackle

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it, and to make sure thosepainted surfaces continue to look nice. So
we're gonna have that little chat hereat the bottom of the hour. You
probably pick up a couple of goodlittle tips if you're doing a little painting.
All right, let's go to dominic. Dominic. Welcome, Thank you
for taking my call. You betI got a problem where my wife put

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a pair of channel bocks on thefrostproof OS bib and snapped it off back
in the wall. Okay, andit's back about twelve inches. The whole
stem is out, but I'm tryingto get the washer and whatever else is

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holding it in there. Is thereany way that I could do that?
Well, the thing is is ona frostproof fossis. They come in eight
inches, ten inches and twelve inchesin length. So the connection, if
it's broken off in the wall,it seems to me that you want to
disconnect the connection for the frost proofthat goes into the indoor pipe system.

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So there's going to be and whatkind of connection there, I don't know
what it is because it's going todepend. Let me explain something to you.
They put somebody grounded my main pot, yeah, main electrical panel to

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that piece of pipe, and thephone ground is on that same piece of
pipe. I've got wires that stringall the way across and it just would
be tough along with the fact thatit's a brick wall. So in order
to get the other one out,I'm guessing I'm going to be in trouble

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because the plumber that did the workhere did a heck of a job,
and I'm guessing that he's probably strappedit's somewhere in the wall. Besides,
well, then it sounds to melike you need to get that plumber back
there. I worked. Yeah,yeah, I mean, you know,

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I mean you're you're so again.You know, to get that out,
you would have to remove the groundand clamp, you would have to move
that to another pipe. You wouldstill that connection though I can't emphasize enough
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on the inside of the house.That connection is either sweated or screwed in,

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depending on whether you have a copperline a galvanized line. I I
you know, I don't know howthat connections made, but they're either sweated
in or there. You know,it's a pipe thread one or the other.
And a lot of times they'll justput a a mail adapter on the
copper line and thread that in.But I I don't know that. But

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that's how it's going to be,you know, disconnected. If it's if
the grounding clamps on there, that'sobviously got to be removed. And then
if it's on the inside of thewall, you're still going to be able
to get to it or gain accessto it from the inside if that whole

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pipe on the outside and the faucetis broken off. All right, well,
there's no way I could get thatpart out of there when I was
just eliminating that hose bib. Well, I think that's exactly so when you
said that, the way you soundsound like the pipe in the hose bib

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was cracked off, is that nottrue? No, the stem that's twelve
inches long crack right right right atthe end. Okay, so the stem
is broken off, right, Yeah, you're going to have to replace that
faucet. That's what I didn't wantto do. Yeah, the only the

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only way that whole stem should threadout from the outside in. So my
guess is that threading is going tobe different from brand to brand. I
don't know that. So what youmight want to do is see if you
can get that whole stem out andthen take it to the hardware store and

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get either the eight, ten ortwelve and see if those threads match up
and then thread that stem in.I don't know if that'll work or not,
but that'd be worth a try beforewe call the plumber. All right,
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minutes after the top of the iron. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
You know, when it's really hotoutside, you could always think about getting
some painting done around the inside ofyour home. And what do you like?
You like darker colors or do yougot the real light ones? Or
you're all gray? You know youlike that look? Or well, how
do you know where to go?Well, I know to go to Mark

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sieber Is with Wow Wow One DayPaint and uh Mark, welcome that home
with Gary Salvin. How you doing, Thanks for asking, Thanks for having
me on today. I'm really excited. Great, Great, tell us a
little bit about Wow one Day Paintif you would before we get started.
Sure, I'd love to. Youknow, we're in a nationwide franchise.

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There's about seventy of us right now. But our goal is always to limit
the disruption of homeowners in their homeby painting their house in one day,
you know, painting and be agrueling and intrusive process in the home.
So we try to eliminate that andget everything back to normal, get the
family back to what their day today is, and you know, get

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in and out as quickly as possible, but still deliver a great experience and
a great product. Yeah, nodoubt. Whenever you have anybody in your
home, and I don't care whetherit's a wood floor guy, a painter
or you know, redoing the kitchen, boy, when you got people living
with you for a while, thatthat could be testy. So I get
that's that's a huge advantage. Iagreed. Yeah, and that's that's our

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goal is always to deliver that greatexperience. But like get get the kids
back in their bedroom, get thekitchen back to where it is a kitchen,
and you know, even if itends up being a multiple day project,
because it isn't you know, it'sall within a recent you know.
But even if it is a multipleday project, we always try to make
sure that the family can walk aroundand their socks while we're gone, you

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know what I mean, keep itclean in between there too, with a
wow one day paint. I'm sureeach customer is a little different. Some
people want a couple of bedrooms done. Other people want the whole first floor
done. Other people want the firstfloor done, the ceiling's done, and
also the trim work. You doall those types of length of projects when

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you tackle projects. We do,sir. Yeah. You know what's funny
is we always I tell all ofour teammates that every day is exactly the
same, only completely different. Well, you never know what you're going to
be doing with you know, likeyou say, are we doing ceilings and
walls? Are we doing trim arewe doing the kitchen? Are we,
you know, tearing down wallpaper?You know, that's one thing. I

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don't know how we got roped intowallpaper, but removing wallpaper. But yeah,
there's a lot of different variables.What accent wall does she want?
The customer, you know, wheredo they want this color? The kids
bedrooms going one color? You know, So there's a lot of different variables.
But it is truly all all forthe most part, the same,

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and there's just little tiny variables.The bulk of painting is actually not very
hard, even for the di wire, right, it's the detailed stuff that
really makes the difference, you know, cleaning up around the trim boards and
making sure that you have a cleanand smooth wall. Things like that.
The detail work is where the realmagic comes in. And nobody likes to
do that that's not sexy enough,I know, changing the color that's sexy.

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It's like bang, you know,And you're exactly right. I've been
in this industry my whole life andsold paint for twenty five years and we've
had lots of companies that have sponsoredthis show over the years. But the
key to a good painting job is, you know, good paint, certainly,
and paints have gotten better and better, but the real key to painting,

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and you can agree or disagree,it's the prep work. Absolutely.
Yeah. One of our main goalswhenever we start a project. You know,
the three the three magic words isclean, dry, and dull.
You know. You you speak alot about on your program about how moisture
is moisture and water seems to bethe enemy of a household when it comes
to maintenance and things like that,and that's certainly true when it comes to

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painting as well. That if there'sany moisture, you know, any issues
with that, that it's very verydifficult and you shouldn't paint it. If
it's at all, you know,wet, you know, so water is
truly the enemy. But making surethe surface is clean, making sure that
it's dry and dull. What Imean by dollas whether it's sanded down or
just has some surface that the paintcan adhere to, is really important.

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If I could share an antidote,We painted about two hundred garage doors in
a mini storage unit here locally,and the we had a failure. We
had a failure on one of them, but they had that you know on
some houses where you wipe your fingeracross and you can come up with that
white dust on your finger. Yeah. Yeah, So there was on these
white garage doors and gosh, wegot about one hundred and ninety eight of

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them. Just fine, there's twoof them. You got to go back
and tex So just to tell theimportance of making sure that everything is clean,
dry and dull, you know,because if you don't have that,
you know, we missed a coupleof spots and we got to go back
and redo that those couple of doors. Yeah, when I talk to people
that have problems mark, everybody's alwaysquick to say, well, it's the
paint. You know, there's paintand I'm going like, you know,

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I've been in this my whole life, and I think one time and probably
you know, fifty years it wasthe fault of the paint. It's usually
the fault of the doer, ordidn't do it good enough and really remove
that all that oxidation, or onewas much worse than the other. But

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you're exactly right. I mean,prep is the key. So nothing wrong
with that. And I like thefact that if there's a problem, you
investigate, took care of it,and that's awesome. When when you start
getting ready to hire while one daypaint, does the do you use a
certain kind of paint or does theconsumer have input or how does that work?

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Well, I always tell customers thatit's if you're projecting it to your
goals, you know whatever, youknow, we listen. We make sure
that we're doing what they want.But we my particular franchise, we partner
up with Sheri Williams almost exclusively.They make a great field of great field
of products across the board a homeboth products such as bear or you know

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which isn't bad that's a product,yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody makes
a good quality product, but wewe have just had such a good relationship
with Sure when that and you know, obviously we got some buying power along
with that too. But I'm notreally going to disparage anybody else's project that
product. That's just what we chooseto use the show. No I I

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talk on this one on this showa lot about charl Williams products. That's
why I use just did my houselast October, And uh, you use
the Emerald trim and paint. You'resaying, trim and painting amel for the
woodwork phenomenal, phenomenal, very fancy. I know, man, I don't

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want to do this again. I'mgonna do that. You know, there
is a price point on certain things. You know. The Emerald product that
you mentioned is probably one of theirmore expensive products. But when it comes
to trim and door goodness, youcertainly get what you pay for when it
comes to that. You know,we use that product almost exclusively with our

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customers on trim doors and cabinets.Just hardens up beautifully when it sets up
and cures. When it comes tothe price point, you know, and
you know it's either you're gonna doit once or you're gonna do it once
more. That's the way I lookat it. Well, I'll tell you
what. When I chose that too, I had to swallow hard. But
I also sold paint for years,and I know you get what you pay

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for. And I was never evergonna do trimmy Nimo again. Yep,
exactly. Yeah, So good choiceto what I'm saying. Good Yeah,
yeah, So you guys do allthe prep work, you do the right
primers. How about colors, becausecolors in our home have changed a lot
over the years. What's hot?Yeah, that's an interesting topic because we

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are seeing a well one day painting, we're seeing a difference of uh,
you know, let's say mindset andwhat that looks like. Goodness. A
couple of years ago, we weredoing everything agreeable gray, you know,
these white cool grays. But we'reseeing a shift now into like whites,
and we're seeing a shift back intobeige colors, you know, and it
really kind of depends on the ageof the demographic too. So like some

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of the younger people, let's sayit, you know, are we're doing
like trycorn black on interior and exterior'sgoodness, last summer on that trim no,
just inside and outside her whole house. We did try corn black and
on the inside on all of herwalls, we did trycorn black, which
is the blackest black that you know, And it was a bold choice made

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for some good social media. Buthey, you know I always say with
my customers, you point, i'llpay. Yeah, well, so what
did you think of it? Didyou like it after you saw it?
For you, it's not my favorite, but you know it's not my choice.
You know, it was very verybold. It was a very very
bold choice. You know, itwas interesting, but it looked great when

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it was done. And the teamloves doing a project like that, something
different than it Yeah, exactly,you know, so something out of the
ordinary that really kind of makes youryou know, your your hands are black
at the end of the day versusgreat. You know, no, it

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would be interesting. I my daughter, she lives in Charlotte, and she
just kind of did a massive,almost half a tear down of a house
and ended up, you know,with white brick instead of regular brick,
and she had black windows, andyou know, that's that's the big trend.
And I'm like, oh my gosh. Really, and I'll tell you
what, when it's done is stunning. It looks fantastic. Yeah. Yeah,

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So when you have a project likethat, it makes for great before
and after photos. You know,it's just it's just a lot of fun.
But to answer your initial question,like what we're seeing for colors,
like the whites are making a comeback, And I think it's important for people
to understand too when they're picking certaincolor, there's how many coats that might
take to cover. So on theback of most paint tickets, if you're

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going to your local lows or homeDepot or whatever and you're looking at their
color selections, are sure one onthe back of those tickets, they'll have
like a light reflective value. Whatthat means is like how bright of a
color they assume that it is.And what we try to coach our customers
is if it's over like a seventy, it's typically going to take more than

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two coats to cover because it's alighter base that it's made out of,
and it's just a lighter color likea pastel or something like that. So
if you're going over even a regularbeige or brown color that's existing on the
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blue to white. Yeah. Yeah, those are big time transitions. Mark,
run out of time? Can canI put you on a hold and
come back and talk a little bitmore with you if you don't mind?
All right, let's do that.Let's do that. Mike, Uh see
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All right, back at it wego. Mark Siebert, he is
my guess. He is with Wowone day Paint, and so if you're
listening right now and you're kind ofhearing the stories of trendy colors and preparation
all very important, I guess thequestion mark is professional or DIY give me

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the advantages? Again, I knowwe on it in the beginning, but
give me the advantage while one DayPaint brings to the table. I'm always
going to say you should have aprofessional to do it. But you know,
I'll start with the di I wire. You know you should ask yourself
can I do it safely? Mostly? Well, ye's lot there are some

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Americans that should not be on theladder if you know, so you really
have to ask. You have toask yourself sincerely if like this is something
that you can tackle and some peoplecan and some people can't. You know,
we see a lot of people thatjust can't get the high spots in
their jury way or you know,some of that ladder work. What's really
important to really hire a professional thatcan do it safely and you know,

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uh have have the wife keep heraging husband off the ladder, you know
what I mean. We see thata lot. But the advantage of hiring
while one day painting is again asI said, before you point and we
paint, We show up with acrew of of you know, friendly uniformed
painters, We start and finish whenwe say we're going to start and finish,

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and we communicate well through that entireprocess throughout. So the goal of
limiting that disruption in the home,but also delivering a great experience and then
just having a great time all throughoutand just really loving the results when you're
done. And how we do thatis we just break it out into like
a painter power. So if weknow a particular job takes let's say thirty

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hours, that tells me I needyou know, probably four painters on it
for the day. Because if youcan paint one room in a day as
a painter, why can't you justpaint four rooms in a day with four
painters. So we just kind ofbreak it out into painter power and work
with our teams in that way tomake sure that we get that product and
that project done in one day.And again, as I said, it's

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all within the reason some exteriors gointo that next day, you know,
just based on the scope of thework and weather and things that are related
along with that. But that's ourgoal is always to get it done,
get the house back to normal,plus patients. A lot of di wires
don't have the patients to do theproject right, start cutting corners. And
I think knowing yourself and being honestwith yourself is important too. I hear

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you're using good, high quality paints. That's excellent. Also, I'm assuming
good quality tools also because a lotof people like to cheat on that and
that's not real smart. Yeah.So I would imagine a lot of you
listeners they're standing in the home improvementor the painting section of you know,
your Lows or Home Depots or whateverat the hardware store, and you're looking

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at brushes and you're like, ohmy gosh, this one's only three dollars,
this one's thirty dollars. What theheck? You know, never underestimate
the importance of a good paint brush, because you can you can clean them
in a good paint brush. Fora DI wire, we can literally last
you thirty years if you take careof it, because you know, the
projects are few and far between.Our paint brushes that we use for the
team, they'll ask maybe about amonth and a half, you know,

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because but if you clean them andcondition them it sounds really silly, but
if you condition them with air conditionerin between projects, they'll last a long
long time. And we hand outindividuals a brush and we give them the
old joke that this is your brush. You get one, let me know
you need another one. But neverunderestimate the importance of good quality equipment that

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you're using. Yeah, I seeyou cheat a little bit on paint and
not the tools I always say,you can use, you know, good
quality brushes and roller covers and makea in it. Not an inexpensive paint,
but a lesser than top notch paintlook good. But if you use
top notch paint, you use cheapapplicators, it's going to still look like

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cheap pain. And so and whenyou're going, you know, the di
I wires as they're in these paintstores and trying to make these decisions on
what they want. The staff andmost of these stores it's more than happy
to help. They're very, verynodlable in what they do. So ask
them. They're more than happy tohelp you pick out the brush for the
for the proper job. And anddon't don't be afraid of the twenty twenty

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five dollars brush because it will lastyou for a year if you take care
of it. If you're just ifyou're just doing the railings on your deck
and it's something, yeah that's all. It's a whole other story. But
if you're doing an interior and youreally want a quality job, yeah,
I agree with you. You gottayou gotta have good quality. Yeah.
We talked about good quality trimming them. Well, you better have a good
quality brush too, and then youthen you're gonna be living well. Mark,

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As we always run out of time, I gotta get into this,
and that's people listening right now.You know, how do I get a
hole of wow one day? Pain? I mean, you guys are franchises,
Uh, you probably splattered throughout thecountry. How do they find out
if there's one in their city?And how do they get this project started?

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Well? I believe you're in Cincinnati, correct, Gary, Correct?
But you're talking to people in aboutthree hundred cities right now. Yeah,
So we're not necessarily a nationwide there'sabout seventy of us between US and Canada,
Okay, But the easiest way toget a hold all of us is
to go to our website, whichis Wow one Day dot com and then

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you can just fill out a formputting your zip code and then you can
just book an appointment rate from thereand we're happy to come out and give
you a free consultation. Or youcan dial one eight eight eight Wow one
Day to get to our sales centerand they'll do they'll walk you through the
process as well and set up anappointment for you. All right, Well,
folks, you know that I'm alwayspreaching the best part of every paint

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job is when you're done, butthe most important part is the prep.
And as you can tell, Markand his experts at Wow one Day Paint,
they know good quality, they knowgood prep, they know trends and
maybe they can help you out onyour next painting project. Certainly appreciate your

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time today. I know we wenta little longer, but I just wanted
to show the folks how knowledgeable youwere on and painting. And we preach
about paint a lot on this show. So thank you for your time.
Mark, No, thank you,Gary, It's been a pleasure to speak
with you. Hope to do itagain someday. Very good. Thank you.
I do too, all right,Mark Sieber, Wow, one day

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paint. And it's interesting when youtalk to these pros and you can kind
of everybody kind of knows where thebest paint is. Everybody knows what the
prep work entails, and you know, except maybe the doing yourself. And
it's really important to know all thesteps. So either learn the steps or

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find a pro to do it foryou. We'll continue with your calls eight
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