Gary Sullivan 7//6/2024 Hour 4

Gary wraps up Saturday with your calls, questions and tips.

Episode Transcript

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Best part of the day. Iguess say, good afternoon. Welcome now
our number four. You're at homewith Gary Sullivan on a beautiful, beautiful
Saturday talking a little home improvement andif you've got a question regarding your home,
why don't you just jump on board. It's eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five and let's getright to the phones. We've got a

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good hour to cover a lot ofsubjects, so grab a line right now.
If you've been trying to get throughright now, it'd be perfect.
All right, let's get to tedTed Welcome, Oh, how are you
today? Doing fine? Thanks?Oh? I was wondering what you think
about roof max. Well, whatare you looking for? What are you

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what are you excited about it?Well? I have my roofs about fourteen
years old, and I saw oneshingle like boat. So I got up
there and I pushed on it andit was pretty stiff. Isn't what that
roof max is supposed to have?Yeah? Yeah, So, for folks
that may not be familiar with it, roof max is a coating that is

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sprayed onto roofs to extend the lifeof the roof and it does that.
It does that, So it's it'sit's And do you know how how you
said your roof's about fourteen years old? Is it a twenty five year warranted
roof? For thirty year or twentyyear? Do you know? I'm pretty

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sure it was forty years? Fortyyears? Okay, well, jeez,
maybe you ought to call that companyand say, what's going on with my
shingle here? So anyway, mostroofs do not live out their warranty.
Let's just use a twenty five yearwarranted roof just as an example based on

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how old Jerseys. If you havea twenty five year old roof warranty twenty
five years for the roof, you'reprobably gonna get somewhere between twenty and twenty
two years of life out of thatroof before you start shopping for a new
roof, and you'll probably end uphaving it replaced. So with roof Max,

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they have this ceilant that goes overexisting roofs. But you can't wait
to the twenty second year to applythis. It really should be applied about
five years before it's going to needto be replaced. So let's say we

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got a twenty five year warranted roofand around year you know, fifteen or
whatever, fourteen, you start seeinga lot of sand in the gutter and
a little bulging of the shingles,maybe even a corner or two broken off

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of the shingles. That would bethe perfect scenario to use the roof max.
So they'll come out, they'll takea look at the roof and they'll
give you, you know, aprice, and they spray this on the

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roof. And what it does isit reintroduces some lubrication to the shingles so
it's not as brittle. It alsohelps adhere or more tightly adhere the sand
coating on top of the shingle,which is a protecting from the shingle from

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the sun. So you extend thatlife of that roof for fire five years.
Okay, that's sealing it last fiveyears. And at that point you're
at year twenty or year whatever,you have two options. You can do
it again, or you can replacethe roof. So you have them come

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out, they'll you know, resealthat roof for you and you get another
five years out of it. Idon't know if it's limited to how many
times it can be used. I'mthinking it is. And I'm thinking it's
three times, but I don't knowthat for sure, okay, So that

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that's what it does. So whatit does is it comes into getting the
pencil sharpened, finding out you know, I'm going to guess that roof max
is twenty five to thirty percent thecost of a roof and figure out how
the math works and see if that'ssomething you want to tackle. Right alrighty,

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okay, very good, Thank youvery much. Have a good day.
You do the same. Thanks allright, and again our phone number
if you'd like to grab a line, love to talk to you. It's
eight hundred eight two three A twofive five Doug welcome. Yes, this
is Doug. Yes, the reasonwhy I'm calling is because of moles.
Hey, I had moles in myyard and I trapped them for years.

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And if I learned about a productcalled I'm a musk garden mole and vol.
It actually goes up by the nameof mole and m O L E
and vol v O L E vOL and it's got twenty percent castor oil
in it, okay, and themoles do not like castor oil. So
my home, in my backyard,it's all woods, and so what I

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do with this because it's the productis not cheap. It's kind of expensive.
But I put it about fifteen feetand I spread this about like like
fertilizer. I spread it about fifteenfeet from the woods line from the woods.
Okay, I like what you're saying, feet from each and about fifteen

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feet twenty feet from each of myneighbor's yards. And I don't get hold
in my yard anymore. So doyou do work? And I've been doing
it. I've been doing it forabout three or four years now. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I'm I'm familiarwith that. A good story to
tell you about it. But doyou spread the whole yard then, Mike,
No, No, my name isDougie, and I don't spread the

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whole yard. I just because it'sso expensive. I just spread the parameter.
Wonderful. Yeah, because then theydon't come in my yard because they
start to come into the perimeter.And I've seen it where they've started to
come in and they turn around andgo back to my neighbors. Excellent,
you know, go back in thewoods. This goes back into the early
nineties and I can't think of thename of the product, but castor oil

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was right on the fire firing linefor getting rid of moles. I mean,
I really thought this is going todo it. I mean, this
is going to be the answer tothis question forever. And the person or
a company that had this recipe,I don't know whether he altered it or

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he sold that recipe or the patentran off. I don't know what happened
to it. And then there wasa bunch of me too products out there
and they were all kind of crummy. I mean they diluted it or something,
and then it kind of got abad name. And I'll be honest,

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I haven't heard anybody talk about acastor oil recipe in twenty years.
But I'm telling you what I knew. I bet I knew ten people that
used it and always had success withit. And you're right, it wasn't
cheap. So you're saying the onethat's out there now called mole in vol.

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Yeah, mole and Vol. Onthe top of the bag it says
I must garden, and then andbig letters across the bag it says mole
and vol, A m olie andmole BLI. Well, I'm going to
look into that. I loved thatidea because in all seriously, thirty eight

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years of doing it, I thoughtI had heard of everything. I never
heard of the crushed class had earlier, but one of the most common it
was new and the most successful Ishouldn't say comming. The most successful remediation
of moles that I ever heard andexperience was at castor oil. You know,

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one bag probably won't do the jobfor anybody. Yeah. When I
first started using I used I thinkduring the summertime I was springing in summer
and fall. I think I usedmaybe two or three bags, and then
I have not put out. Lastlast summer I put down two bags,
and now this summer so far,I have not put any bags down and

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I haven't got any moles. SoI think the cast for oil must stay
in there exactly a year after year. Boy. Anyways, it works.
I hope that the lady still Yeah. Yeah, well, I'll pass it
along too, and I'll do somereading up on it. I don't have
moles, so I'm not going togo out and buy any right now.
But and I'm not bringing moles in, that's for sure. But uh,

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I really appreciate your call, andthank you very much. You're welcome.
You have a good day. Allright, you do the same. Thanks.
That is it. That's that isa good story. That is one
old, long time ago. Andlike I said, thirty years ago,
I think there was a recipe,a homemade recipe you could make it and

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spray it and great success with it. And then I think some companies got
into it and are making it,and I don't think they use enough castor
well it just kind of went away, so I will definitely check that out.
All right, we'll take a littlebreak. Mike. You'll be up
first. If you'd like to joinus, do so. It's eight hundred
eight two three eight two five five. You're at home with Gary Salvan right

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here in fifty five care seeds.He talks all right back here we go
twelve twenty on your Saturday spot foryou as we talk a little home improvement.
You can grab a line, happyto take it. It's eight hundred
eighty two three A two five fiveand Mike, welcome, Thank you appreciate.
Another rough another rough question. Allright, I'm living I'm living in

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Fayettville, North Carolina. Moved downhere about thirteen years ago for a job
and just ended up retiring here.Not a bad place hotter Blazes. I
didn't go there, but you knowwhat I mean. I'm working out in
the yard now, all right.The south side of the house, the
roof tiles look immaculate. And whenwe bought the house maybe eleven years ago,

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we were told a new roof wasput on two years prior. The
front of the house, which facesthe north, looks like it's got mold,
like it's got running dirt. Almost. My irrigation guy, and when
you live in the south, youhave an irrigation guy told me he used

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a product from Low's called wet andForget Outdoor. Have you ever heard of
that? I read the instructions atLow's and they really recommended not to do
it until the fall. Is thatcorrect? Well, so I have heard
of it. In fact, Asponsored this show. So when they first

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came to me, it's probably beentwelve years ago. Mike, I was
like, you do what you sprayit on and all my problems go away.
So I was a little apprehensive.And it does work. It does
work application it's a year round product. But I love what you said that

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they said it lows because I agreeit's it's going to so it sprays on
and then it works with mother nature, so it spray. You spray it
on, it drives on the surface. Then between the sun and the rain
that keeps that activated. It doesn'thappen overnight. You spray it on.

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Depending on how bad the growth ison those tiles, it could take anywhere
from four to eight weeks before they'reclean, depending on how much rain you
get, how much sun you get, and how much it evaporates when you
spray it on. So cloudy daysthat are cooler are great, but that

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doesn't mean it can't be sprayed.And I wouldn't spray it on a sunny
day when it's ninety five degrees well, and that's what we have right now,
so I wouldn't get ninety five plus. Yeah, so you know,
you buy it, you put itin a garage because for some reason,
it's like driveway sailors. When youwhen it's the perfect time to apply it,
everybody's out of it. So yeah, get it now, and then

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you know you'll you'll have some dayseven in the summer where it's just kind
of a you know, cold frontgoes by, it's just kind of gloomy,
and you know, in the upperseventies, and go spray at that
day and and you're good because theonly reason you're you're you don't want to
do it on a hot, realclear day is evaporation of the product.

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Okay, so you know that makesthat What about covering plants, because I'll
hear from my wife if I yeah, I'm pretty sure the instructions will tell
you to, but it's and Iwould, But it's not like it's going
to kill your plants anything anything likethat that you're spraying algaecides or anything.

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If it got all over the plantsand it's ninety eight degrees in sunny,
it's not going to help the plants. You could have some die back.
So I would cover them, orif you don't cover them, get your
hose out and really rinse them offwhen you're finished. That's a good idea,
okay, So hey, I appreciateit, Thank you all right much.

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It's good stuff. It'll amaze you, and don't give up on it
too. Sometimes you'll spray it onthere and you'll be going like this is
this is a scam. There's nothinggoing on, and then one day you'll
go out there and it'll be likeeighty percent gone. It is. It's
a great proce. It's a greatproduct, I always and they make it

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different ways too. They make itin a concentrate, you mix it with
water, you put it in athree gallon spray, but then you got
to get on the roof and nobody'srecommending that it's great for sidewalks, patios,
decks when you put it in aspray. But then they have the
hose in where you just screw agarden hose on it and it does all

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the work for you. You justspraying the roof down or patio or whatever.
I think it sprays up to twentyfive feet and let it do the
job and it does great. Thenthey also have and this is I don't
know, it's not really comical.It's just how people start finding uses for
things. They have a ready touse. You don't have to mix it.

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It's in a little spray bottle witha hand trigger on it. And
when they came out with that,they came out with it because people started
writing in and they were using iton gravestones and headstones, and you know,

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you get the algae on there oreven liking growing on some of his
limestone headstones, and people started sprayingthat with great success. They would clean
it right up. So they startedmaking these handheld on twenty four ounce with
a little trigger sprayer. And Ihad a couple of window sills on the
north side of my home that werebrick soldier stacked and they were green and

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they need to be cleaned. AndI used that and I sprayed it.
Gave myself the talk, don't gettoo excited, it's going to take four
to eight weeks. And I wentout in three days it was gone.
It was gone. The only thingthat was not gone on the one window

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sill it had some lichen and likenis you know, it's a bloom.
It's about the size of a quarterand it's a silvery green, looks like
a petal. And that had actuallygrown when I sprayed it, and as

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it grew it almost looked like itbloomed, and then it turned brown and
it died. It took about aweek and a half. And I'm not
telling you that because that's what youshould expect, because I think I was
an anomaly. That's not what toexpect. It's going to take some time.

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And again that four to eight weekperiod, had somebody stopped me more
than once and say, I usethis stuff four weeks and it's done absolutely
nothing. I had this white picketfence and it was green then, and
it's still green. I'd say,just give it some time. Give it
some time. You want to reapply, fine, if you don't, that's

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fine too, Just give it sometime. I ran in that personal week
later and she goes, I can'tbelieve it. It was one day,
just like was gone. And that'swhy it works. All right. We
got open line, so I lookto you for questions regarding your home projects.
If you'd like to join us,why not pick up a line,
give us a call. I'm gonnagive you two phone numbers five one three,

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seven, four nine fifty five hundredor eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five, both of themeasy to remember. Eight hundred eighty two
three eight two five five probably theeasiest to remember. Grab a line.
We'll take a break, we'll comeback. We've got more coming your way,
as we continue at Home with GarySalvan right here on fifty five k

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SE detalk station. All right,back at it we go at home with
Gary Salvin, twelve thirty three onyour Saturday. I hope you having a
good weekend and they had a lovelyfourth and getting a few things done around
the home. And by the way, if you've got some issues around the
house, feel free to join us. It's a five one three seven,

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five hundred. Let's go to DanDan Welcome, Hello, Gary, Hello.
I got a thirty by forty twostory pole barn, and when they
built it, they didn't put avapor barrier under the concrete floor, so
I have very high moisture content,humidity and everything. Russ. My question

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is, I have two windows upstairs, one on each end. I have
one downstairs in the in the longside of the building, plus the two
garage doors. I have some ofthose reversible window fans, and I'm wondering
if it would help to put thosein the windows upstairs. Yes, sir,
And my question is should I haveit blowing out or blowing in?

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You wanted to pull it out,okay, So if you kind of look
at that pole barn almost like ahouse, Okay, is the upper reaches
of that pole barn is kind ofyour attic, And I know there's no
floor up there, it's just hotair rises it's looking to get out.

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So you're gonna help it a littlebit with that fan that's drawing the air
out. Now that that air hasto be replaced. So depending on I'd
probably use your lower window and openthat because that's gonna allow the outside air

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which is good chance cooler than thatair way up top, and it's gonna
pull it right in and all theway up and out, and you're gonna
flush that hot air from the topout because eventually it's a stack effect and
reverse. It gets hot at thetop and works its way down. So

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you want to pull that air outat the top, and you got to
replace it with some air, whetheryou open a door or open a window
or something. But with that lowerwindow that'll probably work as a good airstream
of pulling it in, kind ofcreating a convection of air. You know
that the jet stream of air iscoming in at a lower point and going

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up and pushing the hot air out. Okay, that would help. Is
my moisture problem downstairs? Then yes, Yes, there's also other things you
can do on that. There isa waterproofing paint which will function as a
moisture barrier. In other words,it will it will not let that water

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vapor come up through that slab wetalked about earlier. It's they used to
have or they we still have aproduct. It's called dry Lock. It's
a waterproofer and paint that would beput on foundation walls. And everybody used
to always call and say, hey, you got anything that can go on
the floor, and it would sayright on, that can not for use

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on a floor. And I usedto tell people go ahead and use it
on the floor if you're going toput a floor covering. A lot of
people would like put carpet in thebasement floor, and you know you can
put it then. But now theymake its dry Lock clear. It's designed

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for floors or walls, and itfunctions as as a water vapor or vapor
barrier. Great. Well, it'salways helped me out. Very good.
Glad you called, Thank you,take care bye bye. So again our
phone number and we have lines open, it's five to one three seven.

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So really, when you think aboutit, that pole barn functions just like
the house. Only what we're doingis we're not opening the windows upstairs because
we got a floor in the attic. We got the heat that builds up
in that attic, and we've triedto create kind of like a chimney stack.

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Right, we put that ridge ventalong the top of the roof,
and in order to move air out, you got to move air in.
Otherwise you'd have a void. Mothernature is not gonna let that happen.
So it wouldn't allow the hot airto just drift out through that ridge vent
unless you're bringing air from a lowerarea in that attic. And we do

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just that when we have soft events. So on the outside of the house,
you got the gutters, you gotthe face your board, which is
the board right behind the gutter,and then you got an underneath board called
a soppet, and there's vents there. They started putting vents there. I'm

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sure they haven't always been there,so they started putting the sofat vents in
and ridge vents in the In themid seventies, I started realizing we do
have to create some ventilation. Andthat's what it's doing. It's pulling the
cooler air in, it's allowing thatridge vent out to left the hot air
out and it's being replaced. Sothe same thing's going on in a pool

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bar. So yeah, that'll work. David, Welcome, Hi Gary.
I have a no question on garagefloor finish. Uh huh, I put
down the Yeah, I think wejust lost them. Yes, he may

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call back. Okay, did youbump them by accident this time? Oh,
it just sounded so abrupt. Hisphone died in or something. All
right, we'll go to Kenny.Kenny welcome. I haven't screened him yet.
All right, how about we takea break. Let's do that,
and I'll give you the phone numberbecause now we have wide open lines.

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So here we go. Write thisnumber down. It's five to one,
three, seven, four, nine, fifty five hundred at home with Gary
Sullivan right here on fifty five KRCdetalk station. All right, back here
we go, twelve forty two athome with Gary Sullivan. And we got
some phone calls and we got thatsorted out. But before we get to

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him, somebody called and said,what was the name of that mold repellent?
That mole m O l e.The moles and the voles that are
attach in your yard. We hada fella called and had a great recommendation
on that it is the name ofthe product, and that it's I must

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Garden, And you got to putthat in when you go to Google,
I must Garden mole and vole vole I must Garden molein vole repellent,
and you're right, it's it's notcheap. I mean it's five pounds for

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eighteen bucks. But if you lookat their different products, he used the
the granular form that you can putdown with a spray a spreader. There's
also a gallon concentrate which is fiftyfour ninety nine, which you can maybe
spray the yard. So I havealways heard that the castor oil works really

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really well, and he was usinga granular product as a barrier and he
swore by it. So if youwant to give it a try, it's
I must Garden molein vole repellent,so you can. By the way,
it also works on armadillos, justin case you were wondering, so you

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can check that out. All right, to the phones, we go,
David, Welcome. Hi. Gary'sa question on broad floor finishing. I
put a Roughstolian product down there afew years ago, and the sales guy
gave me the mix rate and itwent off too hot and bubbled and now

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it's peeling, and I at thispoint, I just want to get it
off and get down to bear concreteand wondering if you have any advice,
if there's any good ways to dothat. Yeah, yeah there is.
So you know, your choices aretwofold, David. You can mechanically remove
it or you can chemically remove it, and I'll tell you mechanically is easier.

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It's got to cost you a littlebit more. But you're not going
to screw around with it. Youknow, going to go rent a tool
and just tell them you're you're goingto remove in epoxy coating off concrete slab.
It'll look like a floor buffer.They'll give you, uh, or
you'll get some buffing pads and Iforget the exact number of them. It's

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like, uh, number four diamond. I think they're black buffing pads.
And it'll come up and you'll havethat thing done in an hour hour and
a half. Wow. Yeah,that'd be nice. And so what what's
the best thing? I'm not sureI want to do this kind of coating
again. I'm thinking maybe I'll justgo with uh. I won't durable,

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and I'd be happy if it wasjust a clear concrete sealer. Is there
such a thing you can drive onwithout? Uh? Yeah there is.
I'll tell you. There are acouple of really good coatings out there.
This is coming from a guy whopreached about not using epoxy coatings on a

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garage floor. Okay, because Ihad done that too. I didn't have
any bubbling issues, but my thoughtprocesses. After four or five years,
that floor uglied out. You couldsee the tire tracks. It just didn't
look good. It looked like acrummy painted floor. Well I wanted the

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painted floor. I want to crummy. So there are different products, and
I'm going to tell you right nowthat these are A sponsor of the show
has just introduced a new product.But I've talked about this guy's products for
twenty five years, long before hewas a sponsor of this show. You
may have heard me talk about Dicecoatings. Yeah, it was all right,

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Yeah, And they got a dIt's Daichcoatings dot com. And they
have one called roller Rock. It'sa two coat system put down with a
brush and you can put a clearseiler over there. And I'll give you
other options too. I'm not herejust to say this. You can put

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a clear coating on it. It'sslip resistant, so it's a coating,
so it's thicker than what you have. It's not an epoxy. It's this
new age acrylic resins. Prep's thekey. You've heard me say that a
million times, and it does areally, really good job. He just

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introduced a product four weeks ago,and it's an epoxy coating and it's called
Dimax and it is an industrial strengthcoating epoxy coating, die Hard Max.
Why am I saying that wrong allday? See it's new die Hard Max.

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Okay, And there is DA fordiysh. So it's Diehard Max and
it's an industrial strength of POxy coating. He used it warehouse floors and they
had the you know, toe motorsand everything else. And he's introduced that
as a residential he's got a specialon his ninety nine bucks. I can't

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remember how many square feet it coverage. You remember, Danny, It's like
two fifty I think. But goon their website and take a look at
that. I haven't used it,but he has a track record with me
that if he's telling me it's anindustrial strength of using warehouses, it's going

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to last. He was kind ofselling that to me above and beyond the
roller rock. So if you wantto get a if you want to get,
you know, a coating. Takea look at that. He's got
a great website. He's got videosand everything else. Dieard back in the

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roller Rock. Those are the two, and he's got another one called Terazo.
It's a more of a The kitcovers two and fifty square feet of
spacety. Okay, I was rightfor a change, for a change,
you were right herett there you go, and do you have time for another
question? Yeah? Do you wantanother option for your floor? Because you
did ask for a clear finish.So they also have one called track Safe,

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which is a slip resistant clear concreteceiler that could be used. There's
also one in another website called MasonryDefender and it's a garage floor specific clear
seiler which will do it mainly forprotecting the concrete. Those clear protectants don't

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last super long. They're good forabout three years. They are a film
and they'll protect a concrete, butnot like a epoxy coating and not like
a you know, the new akrellicresent. Okay, well, that's great and

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I appreciate it. I'll have toget on those websites. Yeah, take
a look at I have another quickquestion. Hopefully if you have akay,
So the whole house ventilation I've lookedat I'm blanking on the name of the
one that you'd recommended for years.But we have a twenty four square foot

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basement, twenty four main floor,and upstairs is about a thousand can I
is there anything that will handle ahouse that big that you know of?
Yeah, the Easy Breath may needtwo of them down in the basement.
It works out. There's what theycall and that's the product that I'm most

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familiar with. It works at eliminatingthe stack effect, which is how the
whole house gets uncomfortable. You know, the heavy coolish air settles in the
lowest and it just keeps building upand building up. If it gets away
from you, obviously, it takeslonger to solve the problem. I think

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the size area that on the easybrand, I think it is forty five
hundred square feet, but I'm notpositive. You'd have to call them and
ask them that that would you know? That would be the way to ventilate
that area. What are you tryingto ventilate? Is it the humidity or

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yeah? Yeah, I've run adehumidifier in the basement for years and it
caunked out. It would keep itat about forty percent humidity, and the
machine has died off, so I'dlet go for a while, and this
morning is up to fifty five percenthumidity. Starting to get a little uncomfortable.

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Yeah, and you know I've heardyou talk about you know that's kind
of the point where you being toget problems. Yeah, I want to
keep eventuated. Yeah, I wouldtalk to him. I don't This is
a good product for removing not onlyhumidity but also just pollutants. I'm not

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going to tell you that if youput this in you won't need a dehumidifier
because it really depends. It reallydepends how much moisture you have. It'll
exchange the air out. I thinkit's four to six times a day.
So if we had a really severemoisture issue like water vapor through the walls

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or floor, obviously it could bechallenged and different years. I have an
easy breathe in my house. Irun a doumidifier. In the last twenty
years that I've had it, I'verun do youmidify about three years, three
times for that year just because itwas a wet year. Okay, Yeah,

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so you know I don't want togive you the impression that you're going
to buy this and this whole problemgoes away. It helps. Yeah,
I think my the moisture problem Ihave is pretty mild. I haven't run
the demdifier for about three months andit's just crept up recently. So well,

(36:36):
I'm hoping it's not a big deal. Yeah. I agree with you,
based on my history of fighting humiditythat if you were controlling with just
a doumidifier with that footprint of thatfirst lower floor, that's pretty good.
Right, that's pretty good. Yeah, probably need a little help, but
that's pretty good. Yeah. Okay, all right, thanks so much.

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You're quite welcome. Thank you,Take care, take care, all right,
Kenny, welcome, Hey, misterwonderful, holl are you. I'm
doing fine. Thanks, you doa great job. I don't care what
people say about it. There yougo. But if I like to put
a umidifier and e udifire in thesame room, let them fight it out.

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What do you think? There yougo a lot of people do that.
They got the midifier on the furnaceand it's running in the middle of
June. I've seen it. I'vegone to some places. It's ice cold
and It still feels very strange inthere, you know. Sometimes, right,
I'm about the about calling and cockreal quick. I got three quick

(37:39):
things I would be quick. Thestuff in the two we call it,
I'm a painting contractor, we callit cock. And then when you're applying
it, that's your calling in aCanna's paint, when you put it on
your painting. I've heard you saya lot of time, you take the
cocking and you put it, youknow. So the stuff and the two,
it's just a cock way beyond myintelligence right right. Made you think

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a little bit there. Now,when you're doing a roof, I climb
on roofs. They put that ceileron there. What is it again,
Oh the roof macs. Yeah.I had a guy I've done condos in
the past with a crew of fouror five guys. We go to a
big condo, you know, Andrecently I had a guy asked me to
put a bit in on one hadthis big cupolo up on top of a

(38:22):
wooden structure, like a little chickenhouse up there, you know, way
up on top of the roof.And I tried to walk up that roof.
It was like the Twilight Zone.It just was not working. My
feet were slipping. I'm a goodclimber. I couldn't get four or five
feet up that normal slope, normalbitch roof that coating was on. Yeah,
so there's your update on that,that this normal roof that I could

(38:42):
normally walk up, even at myage, I couldn't take more than one
or two steps up, and I'msliding down ten feet on my backside all
the way down where I started again. I had a roof for telling me
one time he climbed all the timeand he used coke on the bottom of
his shoes. You ever hear that? No, No, I didn't.
I'm not a roofer. But I'mlooking at a roof right now that I

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could walk right up. But ifyou put that coating on it, it
gets slick at last, and youcan't even take more than one step and
you're slipping, your falling right backdown. So that's the bad news for
the painters they put this stuff onat these wonderful inventions. They keep coming
well, yeah, and you're coatingthis thing, just like the scutter guard
stuff. Why would you put alid on something that you want to catch

(39:25):
water? Yeah? Well, Itold me a long time ago in this
business. I've been in this businessfor a long time. He goes,
there is no perfect part. Thereis no perfect product. And if you
notice, when I talk about productsa lot of times, I'm always talking
about the ying and the yang.Okay, this one's good, it's going
to do this. This one's good, it's going to do this now.

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The bad part of that one isthis and the bad part of that one,
because they're right, they all,you know, they all have ramifications.
So I didn't know that, andI appreciate that. I will throw
that in my repertoire when I'm talkingabout So thank you very much. I
appreciate your call. And it makessense, though. It is a ceiling

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that's gluing the granulars onto the shingle, and some of those that granular part
of that shingle has already fallen off. So what you're doing is you're taking
a diminished amount of saying that wason the shingles and you're gluing the rest

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down with a ceilant. So itkind of makes sense that it would be
a little slippier than a normal roof, and you know, maybe a lot
slipperer. So we thank him forhis expertise on that subject matter. All
Right, Danny boy, why,I'll tell you one thing. It's been
a busy day. I hope everybodyhad a wonderful Independence Day. And you're

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off this weekend and get a fewthings done around the home. And again
somebody called on that mole. It'smole and mole and vole, and the
buzzwords are it's got to be inthe garden, mull and vole. So
there long name for that, butit's a castor oil formula. That's what

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I understand, pretty effective with moule. So if you want to get that
try report back. All right,Danny boy, good Lord willing. We'll
be back tomorrow for more At Homewith Gary Sullivan.