55KRC Thursday Show - Jon Husted, William Hazelgrove, Jay Ratliff

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
By BO five. I think if I have k r
C the talk stations something a vacation snow, I gotta

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get the runout.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
And if I gave a moment of thought to whatever
sound by Joe's going to play this morning, that would
be the first one to come to mind. So wonderful
start of the morning, Joe Strecker. It's cold out there,
and you, I guess we've got some inclement weather coming
our way. It's a really windy out. My car is
getting blown all over the road coming down the expressway
this morning, which was kind of strange, but so I

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guess ultimately, be careful and don't bother going to school
today since they public schools closed due to the cold weather.
We find that like are we whimps now? I mean,
it just merely cold weather now, and it results in
the schools being shot down. Imagine our world when we

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have to rely on solar power and wind, although I
guess the windmills would work really well this morning. We
have climate change. Climate change is going on right now.
You have nothing to do with it. Winter showed up
and it got really cold out and didn't we anticipate
that happening? But are are the kids just going to

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stay at home for the entire winter? Now, I don't
get it, really don't get it was such a rare occasion.
Maybe I'm just waxing poetic about my childhood. We'd all
look really forward to the day when they would shut
down to the school because you know, there was like
eight inches of snow out there innow applause couldn't deal
with it. And don't ever recall the schools being shut

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down because of cold. And I lived through the seventies
in the oil embargo when everything was really expensive, and
a really good friend of mine went over his house
and his family was on a budget. You know, I
understand that you could see your breath inside his house,
and that's because they kept the thermostat down really really low,
because well, the price of energy had gone through the roof.

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Welcome to your future, brought to you not by the
laws of supply and demand, but by the laws of
well climate change, which are literally dominating every aspect of
our lives these days. Don't allow that to happen. Reject
the religion. Be like me anyway. Brian Thomas, right here,
glad to be right here, had a wonderful time yesterday
a listener lunch. What a great listener lunch. Not that

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they're all not great, I love every one of them,
but everyone was interfestive in celebratory mood yesterday, which is
all I was looking for. And then that parlayed over
of segued over into the iHeartMedia Christmas Party. We had
a really wonderful time yere celebrating while the holidays generally speaking,
so I can say that I had a really nice
day yesterday. Anyhow, God bless the folks of Price Heal Chili.

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The service, the food was great, and of course the fellowship.
Just a wonderful, wonderful day. Photographs, Thank you, Rebecca PROMGRAPPI
Rebecca used to take photographs at every listener to lunch,
and then her life sort of changed, went to a
different direction. She wasn't able to make it anymore. So
we haven't had really good photographs from a listener to lunch.

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No offense west side, Jim Keefer, You've done a wonderful
job filling in the blanks over the years, but let's
face it, your cell phone has no substitute for Rebecca's
keen eye and wonderful camera that she's got. So if
you are friends with me on Facebook, or friends with
Rebecca Grappy on Facebook, or friends with west Side Jim
Kiefer on Facebook. Lots of folks have you know, reposted

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the photographs and you can get a real big eye
full of all the different food that people late over there.
She loves taking pictures the plates of food before people
dive into him. So God bless you, Rebecca. You know
I love you to death. Coming up in the fifty
five Jarsey Morning Show, I love Joe Strecker in you know,
a non gay way. Joe, love you man, You're my brother,
and thank you for winding up Lieutenant Governor John Houston.
He'll be on the program coming up at seven o

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five talking about the Ohio bathroom bill, somewhat controversial, at
least among some circles. Listen, I'm a firm believer that,
you know, if you're a guy, you should well be
using the men's bathroom. If you're a woman, you should
be using the women's bathroom. I have a daughter, and
I don't worry so much about my son. If my
son's in in the men's bathroom and a woman comes
in and goes, that's for whatever reason that doesn't strike

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me as scary in the same way that a young
girl in a girl's bathroom having some forty five year
old man who claims he's a girl walk in there.
That really is creepy on a whole next level, and
you can feel differently about that. That's what opinions are
all like, like sphincters, we've all got one, but that's

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you know that it's it could be very dangerous. I
suppose it could be dangerous. I don't know why. I
always project. I suppose there our instances with women could
take sexual advantage of men. It typically happens these days
with school teachers who think it's appropriate on some level

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to have sex with I don't know, young boys. I
think it's a much rarer occasion. The whole concept of
you know, violence, rate that kind of thing. It usually,
in my mind, it's a guy attacking a woman, and
I think that's what is behind all of these bathroom bills.
It's like, don't create a situation where an eight year

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old girl can get molested by somebody merely because that
guy claims to be a woman. I think it represents
a much higher level of concern than again, the controverse
or the flip side of it, but regardless, Lieutenant Governor
John Houston is going to join the program talk about
the bathroom bill, also ohioa dip and pregnancy programs two

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topics with the Lieutenant Governor at seven o five, follow
by Donovan and Neil. Americans for Prosperity on school choice
expansion Yay for school Choice at eight o five. Big
show lined up today William hazel Grove with the book
Dead Air The Night orson wells Terrified America. I'm looking
forward to that, moving away from politics and talking about

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one of the most interesting media phenomena to ever happen,
when people actually thought that we were being invaded by
Martian aliens. So a good show. Fifty five Casey dot
com for the podcast when you can't listen to live
Judgement of Polatana. We went to law school yesterday. That
was funking. Looking at the Hunter Biden pardon from a

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core constitutional perspective, stepping away from how he was treated differently,
how the slow walk the investigation to more fundamental constitutional
based discussion. For example, why do you have to fill
out an FFL form when you buy a firearm? Is
there is that constitutional even in itself when we've got,

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of of course, the more modern Supreme Court decisions like
the Bruin. You know, if that if the if the
prohibition didn't exist at the time the Second Amendment was ratified.
In other words, what was the perspective of the Founding
father's relative of firearms? You know, what could you have,
what could you use? And what I mean he pointed
to He loved that. He pointed out that Thomas Jefferson

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and George Washington both grew weed on their farms and
also were firearms unders So it kind of suggested that
maybe those guys were walking around Stone that was okay
back then. You didn't have to fill out a federal
firearms for him back then. So you can forgive Hunter
Biden on some level for lying only because the predicate
the FFL form itself under Judge and Palalaton's argument, and

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I would say, I share it is unconstitutional because that
kind of prohibition, that limitation that you can't buy something
until you fill out a federal form was not in
any way, shape or form in existence at the time.
The Founding Fathers told you that you absolutely have a

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god given right to protect yourself defend yourself. The Second
Amendment right to keep in bare arms shall not be
in fringe, and that's an infringement. So I thought, why not,
you know, wouldn't that be a welcome opportunity since unter
Biden was facing those charges. It was so I'm guilty
to defend yourself based on the Brewing decision. And maybe
they raised that argument at court. I don't know, but

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you know, you can appeal a conviction and go up
to the Supreme Court. Maybe the Supreme Court that in
front of them, they might have declared, no, you know what,
He's right, you don't need to fill out one of
these forms in order to purchase a firearm. So anyway,
we talked about that, and I thought it was a
rather interesting legal discussion because, you know, at the outset,
I was a little concerned, if you like, wait a second,
you know, Neapolitana thinks it's okay that Hunter Biden got

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pardoned by his old man. Well, on a constitutional level,
the answer yes, but you can't look at it from
the base of the facts on Hunter Biden specifically, you
have to back up and look at the core fundamental
limitation document that is the Constitution. There are specific limitations
of the federal government. They only have the right under
the Constitution to involve themselves in very specific matters too specifically,

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and there are five thousand, almost five two hundred now
federal laws on the books criminal that exceed the scope
of the authority the federal government has under the Constitution.
So I loved that whole. Like I said, we all
went to law school yesterday. So if you get a
chance to listen to the judge, check that one out.
I think it's well worth it. Alex Chrantefiela was on

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the program yesterday the podcast at five Caressey dot Com.
Talked of the state of politics here and also always
wonderful commentary by Jack add and tying in biblical concepts
to Donald Trump's cabinet. I didn't know how that was
going to go direction wise, and it was. It was
pretty cool. I suppose everybody knows at this point about

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that shooting in New York yesterday. Briefly, the CEO United
Health fatally shot. It was a it was a targeted attack.
It seems premeditated. No one seems to be making any
argument to the contrary. Someone mentioned this when I walked
into the Christmas party. Yesterday. I read the news and
it said Brian Thoms. Someone is like Brian Thomas. I
thought was Brian Thomas god shot? No, Brian Thompson getting

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ready to speak of the United Health Group investor conference.
He was the CEO now deceased. So no, it wasn't
me Thomas. My name Thompson his name. He was only
fifty years old. Weird set of circumstances. The guy and
we were talking yesterday and joking around about the red
Bikes program in Cincinnati, kind of on a thin ice

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because it doesn't have the money to operate. This guy
escaped on one of those type of bikes and he
is at large still. They said he appeared to be
an experienced firearm user using a firearm equipped with a suppressor.
It's a suppressor, not a silencer. Okay, it's like it's
a magazine, not a club. Anyway, nine millimeter handgun with

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a suppressor. Calmly Cooley shot the guy in the back.
The gun jam. He was able to get the jam fixed,
which is one of the things they say points that
he was an experienced shooter. I'll let you draw your
own conclusions on that. My fellow firearms owners hey, walk
down the Queen Rose Street quietly escape down an alleyway
on one of those rented bikes. I thought the weird

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thing beyond the person who thought for a moment that
it was me Brian Thomas as opposed to Brian Thompson.
The guy is married to a woman named Paulette. Brian
Thompson and Paulette Thompson. So creepy, creepy thing there, since,

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of course, my wife's name is Paullette, not exactly a
common name. Anyhow, you got a comment, love to hear
from you, Steve. I see her on the phone. I'll
be happy to talk to you. It's already five seventeen, though,
I gotta take a quick break. I'll be right back
after these brief words.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
They don't just want to control our healthcare live dot,
control our children's minds.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Through their education loud.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
We have to fight to take America back and logo.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
You have the luxury of giving your opinion.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's just neighbors being neighbor lads.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, I'll agree with the whole heart late, of course,
most of the time.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Bring it back to what the founding of fault is
believed in that individual would be and the individual responsibility
to goes.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
With US fifty five PRC, the talk stations, why Pea
more for Prescription.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Five twenty one and a Happy Friday, E too you
looking forward to iHeart Me The aviation expert Jay Ratt
Love Love talking to Jay on a Thursday eight thirty
close the show out. We got a whole bunch of
topics with him. I mentioned William hazel grow is going
to be on with his book Dad, Air of the Night,
orson Wells, Terrified America, Donovan and Neil plus Lieutenant Comnor
John Hough said on a whole variety of topics. Let's
go to the phone, Steve, thanks for holding over the brake,

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Welcome to the program.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Good morning, How you doing.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I'm doing to here?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
You got to hear you worn't involved in that.

Speaker 7 (13:18):
My question is, is I just there's a younger guy
at work and just time out.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
He's been there two years.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
And he's not eligible for a four to one K
and the money that is put in by the company
because I until he turns twenty one.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
That doesn't seem seems like some kind of a age
discrimination thing.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I've never heard that rule. Is that you caught me
off guard on that one. I know there are weird
rules about four to one k's. I know, I had
to be employed when I first started my four to
one K at my first you know, full time real job,
and I was practice of laun Chicago. I had to
wait a full year before I became eligible to contribute
to it and to get the match. But I've never

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heard of an age restriction on it. So that's that's
new on me. I have, Steve, honestly don't have any
idea why that would apply, especially with more and more
young people foregoing the stupidity of a four year college degree,
which is going to give them literally nothing for a
variety of topics. Why wouldn't you be able to start,
you know, ful fill the minimum requirement of time spent

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at work one year, whatever it happens to be in
our company policy, and start participating plan ahead for your future.
So all right, I.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
Just just it didn't seem the corporate I mean, it
kind of seems like a loophole.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
For the corporations. Yeah, but it's I.

Speaker 7 (14:30):
Mean, they're basically being told. I mean I was told
when I was younger, I wasn't allowed to get a
raise that I deserved because I was unmarried and young.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
What and yeah, well maybe the laws changed a little bit.
S If I was an employer, I wouldn't say something
like that out loud.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
It's like, well, honey, it worked out for me. Good,
oh god, I'm over the long haul. Goods do you?
You didn't land it a bad spot. But that's like
to me, that's like saying, honey, we would love to
promote you to the vice presidents, but we're worried you
might get pregnant or something. You know, I mean, just
that stuff is not right. It's I mean, unethicable, immoral

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and also perhaps illegal. But in as far as the
contribution thing, if there's a listener out there that knows
four one K law and knows that that there's a
limitation on when you can start, I listen fifty nine
years old, and I have never heard that before. Brother,
So that's that's strange. And you know what, you know,

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what's really cool about that, though, aside from the fact
that that the eighteen year was deprived of the opportunity
to prepare for his or her future, that there was
someone out there at the age of eighteen who wanted
to put away something for their future. That person, whoever
that person is, Steve, if it was you, You're you're
setting yourself up for a lifetime of success. You're thinking forward.

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You are putting money in something that is going to
earn money. You know, it always earns money over time
because you get the benefit of that compounding interest in
markets that you know, over history have proven themselves to
always go up inspite of some setbacks. But whoever raised
that eighteen year old, he did a good job. And
whoever that person is wonderful. Give You're gonna do well

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in life, at least from my from my conservative West
Side perspective, at least conservative from a financial perspective. Anyway,
stick around. Got more callers coming in Eric's online calling
in right now. We'll take that call. Your calls are
welcome five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred,
eight hundred and eight two three talk pound five fifty
on AT and T phones. I also have local stories
to talk about. And we can still make fun of

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this insay public schools for closing, because gee, it's twenty
four degrees out today, five twenty five right now, hang on,
I'll be right back. Fifty five KRC fIF KRCD talk
station any very happy Friday Eve to you. He's having
an interesting work related conversation with executive producers Joe Strecker,
which makes me want to thank him even more for

(17:03):
the wonderful work that he does to make this morning
show come off usually without a hitch. If there's hitches,
it's mostly meat, but a valuable employee. Joe Strecker is
and man with the most experienced in the entire building
at what he does. Without Joe, the show don't go. So,
you know, I just want to thank Joe Strecker from

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the bottom of my heart for the hard work that
he puts in and tireless efforts behind the scenes. Man
has crazy, strange hours and I know it's impacted his life,
but he's got a wonderful career here and he is
truly appreciated. And I will put a free plug in
for him, not against FCC rules, to remind the world
that Joe Strecker earns a little additional income on the

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side by producing podcasts. So if you're inclined, you think
you want to do a podcast and you need someone
to do the editing and recording and all that, get
in touch with Joe Strecker. He is the man in
the podcast business to help you out. He's got a
whole lot of podcasts he's producing, does a wonderful job,
so consistent work for you. Independent of his consistently excellent

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work here on the fifty five care Scene Morning show.
I love you Joe Streckeran, and thank you very much
for being here every morning. Eric, Thank you for indulging
me while I gave praise to Joe Streckeran for calling
in this morning. Happy Friday Eve.

Speaker 8 (18:17):
To you, Happy Friday Eve, Brian.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Joe has well worked. Any praise everyone gives him.

Speaker 8 (18:22):
He is an exceptional man.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yes he is.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (18:25):
Also, he keeps my favorite morning show on Man's appreciate that.

Speaker 8 (18:32):
I gotta tell you.

Speaker 9 (18:32):
You talk about four one k's and retirement plans. We
recently went through this. The company I worked for was
bought out back in March, and we had a four
one plan K and you know, we had a four
one k planet in place. And what they did was
they had a big meeting with us and explained to
us that four.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
One k's IRA's are all offered from.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
The corporation or company.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
The only thing that the companies required to do is
have a have as system to pay into such security
has been the accepted system.

Speaker 10 (19:01):
What they've done in our company now is say minimum
it's a minimum of twenty four months and then the
age of twenty one to contribute to a four to
one K. Otherwise you can contribute to social security. Okay,
if a lot of people.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
Got upset and the contact the high Labor Cabinet and
like Labor cabin said, it's perfectly legal.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, you know, and on the break. And I always
give Joe for being, you know, internet research guru because
he'll look up stuff on the fly because I can't
do multitask that much. So he looked it up and
that's exactly what he found. It depends on the employer plan.
You can offer an eighteen year old a opportunity to
participate in four to one K. You also can require

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that being minimum of twenty one years old. It just
depends on what the employer chooses to select. I guess
it's like some employers author wraw for a one K,
some offer just plain old four to one case. So
the options are out there, and I'm happy that employers
have the flexibility. This is one of the ways they
compete in the marketplace for valuable talent. So the better

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your your retirement plan options probably the more likely it
is you're going to get a good, good talent. It's
like having great medical insurance. So yeah, Eric, thank you
very much, not for the kind words about the show,
but also supporting my support for Joe Streckers. So consistent
information not just from Eric's real world experience, but from
Joe Streckers on the fly internet research two to three talk

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interesting headline how did two Ohio at jail inmates die
in a week? Camera Knight, since I inquire, thank you
for the reporting. Camera and two inmates have died in
custody at the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office in the past week.
Matthew Dennier, fifty four, died and the Justice Center new Thursday,
November twenty eighth, According to the department spokesperson Kyla Woods

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will be the Emont County Sheriff's Department. Denler admitted to
the jail Tuesday, November twenty six would Say having been
arrested on open warrants. Court documents related to the specific
charges not immediately available. Woulds said he was found unresponsive
in his cell Thursday officers of medical staff attempted life
saving measures, obviously unsuccessful given the headline. Jacob Grayson, twenty five,

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collapsed Wednesday, November twenty seventh in the common area of
a pod. According to Woods, officers and medical staff responded
and he was taken to UC Medical Center, where he
later died. He Corner's office at least not reported the
date of his death as the time of the reporting,
but court documents state Grayson was arrested on November twenty
fifth on a probation violation. Pleaded no contest to possessing

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a fentanyl related compound back in February. Documents related to
the prole violations said Grayson had a positive drug test
for fentanyl and failed to report to the probation department.
According to Enquire's research, fourteen people died at the Hamilt
County Justice Center between August twenty twenty and September twenty
twenty three. Coroner's office working to determine the cause of

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death for both in main Sheriff's office also investigating both as.
Wood said no foul play is suspected in either case,
and she also confirmed that no force was used against
either inmate, probably because there's not sufficient sheriff's deputies in
the jail to even be around the use force. Allow
me the occasional political barb couple the five thirty five

(22:21):
efty five kars to detalk station. Feel free to call,
got some time, but going to dive into the stack
is stupid as well. Prefer talking to you though. If
you got a topic you want to talk about, feel
free five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five, eight
hundred and eighty two to three talk be right back. After
these brief words, the talkings were hung by the chimney with.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Care thanks for taking my college, taking my call.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
And hopes they'd soon hear you're on the air.

Speaker 11 (22:44):
Happy holidays, Merry Christmas you and your family.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Fifty five KRC the talk station. What's up, y'all? Just
to clarify, since Heather eight from around here, much like
Chuck Ingram, who is off today, he sits in one
of the studios here at the iHeartMedia cluster. He is

(23:09):
at least familiar with local roads and traffic, and he
does know that not all public schools are closed today.
That will be the Cincinnati public schools closed today. Okay,
just make sure that you know that I'm sure you
would have gotten a text if your school district was closed.
But my children went to public schools. But I didn't
see any reporting this morning that the Loveland Public schools

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will be closed. So just remember Cincinnati public schools closed
because of cold weather. What a perfect opportunity and segue
to the stack of stupid. But before I get to that,
let's get Larry. Larry, welcome to the program. Happy Friday
Eve to you.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Happy Friday evening to you, Friday Eve to you, the
wrong thanks brother.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
First off, I want.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
To first off, all, let's say I pray for you,
because I know you're putting cant.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
There, so I'm praying for you.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Appreciate it, and the same.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
On what's you know how much I do appreciate your
show and listening to you for about.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
At least two years, I know, maybe three first.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Time CAULI though, sir, I'm not sure why, but the
pound five fifty does not work on my AT and
T phone. Really maybe that's something, Yeah, on mind, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I'm not sure why. Yeah, Joe Strucker's throwing his hands
up and he doesn't know. I don't know either, and
I listen. I just I just get the message. You know, hey,
here the phone numbers announce them. I understanding at some
point they entered into a relationship with AT and T
where you got pound five fifty. I don't know. So
there's somebody out there out there that that that does
work and knows that pound five fifty works. We could

(24:42):
at least address Larry's personal phone concerns, and I wouldn't
mind solving that problem or having it confirmed that no,
pound five fifty doesn't work anymore. And I'll have to
talk to my superiors about that if I could ever
find out who they are.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Okay, Lansley's clarification thing, maybe I missunder So I thought
I heard you make a comment about wasting your time
not getting a college education.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Uh yeah. My whole tune on college has kind of
changed over the years. And I see so many children,
you know, and we talk about student debt, student loans,
all that kind of thing. What are you getting by
way of degree? Now? I would argue all day long, absolutely,
get a college education if it's in a degree where
there's an actual employment opportunity out there in the world.

(25:31):
An engineering degree, a chemistry degree, a business degree, something concrete,
something usable, something that maybe you know, crosses multiple different professions,
which allows you flexibility. In my case, I got a
political science degree. Now what would I have done with that, Larry,
had I not gone on to law school. I have

(25:52):
no idea. The only reason I've removed my major over
to political science at the time is because I had
every intention of going to law Schoolical science was one
of those degrees that a lot of people you know,
parlayed into getting into law school. The only reason. So
that's why I joke about it's like getting a degree
in art. I like art. It's a hobby. Though you

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can learn about art and focus on some particular genre
or era and learn everything there is to know about
it on your own. But having a degree in art,
what are you going to use it for? How many
how many opportunities for employment are there at Southeby's for example,
probably none? And how many docents get paid? Docents are
usually like a volunteer job at an art museum. So

(26:37):
you know, you want to exit after four years with
a degree in art, after spending one hundred thousand maybe
dollars or more and paying interest on that over twenty
plus years. No, I think that's a poor choice. So
the value of the degree should be the deciding factor
on whether you actually pursue that four year commitment. That's

(26:58):
all I really meant. I know I was probably way
too short handed with the way I commented on that,
but you know, I've made these kind of comments a
lot of times over the years, so I just kind
of maybe wrongfully assumed that there was some context out
in the general listening audience for where I was going.
God bless you, man, and thank you so much for
the kind words and for tuning into the fifty five
casing Morning Show means the world to me. We've got

(27:19):
another Is that another Larry Joe? Larry, welcome to the
program in a very happy Friday eve to you.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, good morning.

Speaker 8 (27:26):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I heard on the World News this morning about a
Chinese telecommunications hat.

Speaker 12 (27:31):
Yep it was, and you'd have the same thing about it,
mooring you to get found on that salt.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
It's called salt Typhoon. I have the article in front
of me. Scared the living hell out of me, Larry,
And yes, I was going to bring that up probably
in the six o'clock hour. So if I get a
couple stack of stupid stories in before the top of
the hour. You will absolutely hear me bring this up
because this is this is the stuff of nightmares. My
friend Chinese Communist Party busy at work engaging right now

(28:03):
in real what we call modern warfare. It's scary, it
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The day's news, the CEO of United Healthcare was shot
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on your AT and T phone. And again, listener lunch
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I lost to Cribbage Mike. We were neck and neck
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deserved victory. Live to fight another day. I will. And
speaking of that other day, we're going to try to
hit some micro breweries next year. And so the next
listener lunch you want to put it down to counter,
it's the eighth. We're not going to do it on
the first, that being the well holiday, So eighth of
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Green Brewery which is on Winton Road. They had pretty
nice menu. We checked it out out, and then we're
going to have We're going to be back at Little
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it a year of microbreweries, at least ones that have
really good food menus and who are also willing to
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here over to the stack is stupid, Well, this is strange.
Got a Central California teacher died last month after being
bitten by a bat. They say presumably had rabies, and
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marking the third such fatality in North America in recent weeks.
Lay Seang inn awake of her death November twenty second,
public officials warning public with the dangers of bats, the
most common source of human rabies in the United States.
Fun fact I did not know. Even though fewer than
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it's almost all fatal if not treated quickly. This sixty
year old Senang found a bat in her classroom. According
to her friend, she tried to scoop it up and
take it outside, but it bit her, which wild animals
tend to do. She didnt immediately have symptoms of rabies,
but fell ill weeks later. Taken to the hospital where
she was put into heavily and a medically induced coma

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and died days later. She was a teacher at Bryant
Middle School in Dos Pados, California, referred in the school
district referred to as a dedicated and compassionate educator, which
I would expect. Watch out for bats, but don't kill them.

(32:41):
Bats are awesome and very important to the ecosystem. Oh wow,
big news for folks following the Vatican and the various
Pulpe mobiles that have been used over the years. The
Vatican announced yesterday and unveiled the new open top Pulpe
mobile and of course all electric Mercedes Benz that he

(33:03):
will use when he greets pilgrims at Saint Peter's Square. Vehicle,
described as a modified version of Germany's Companies, a G
class mid sized luxury suv, has an elevated seat so
the Pope can well get a better view of the
crowds and the crowds and get a better view of
the Pope. Joe Gee, why was that in the stack

(33:23):
of stupid? Sorry? Movie actress met an untimely end after
consuming a potion containing a poisoned frog called Cambo idiots
doing idiot things because they're idiots. Never heard of this

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person who's referred to a movie star. Marcella Alcazar Rodriguez
was that a spiritual retreat in Mexico took part in
what they called a cleansing ritual, which used a substance
made from the giant monkey frog, whichparently secrets a hallucinogenic
substance potion itself. They say it causes vomiting and uncontrollable diarrhea.

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It's thought to clear out the system for the retreat visitors.
So you walk into this open eyed. By the way,
here you go have this, you will start having uncontrolled
vomiting and diarrhea. Go ahead, drink up. Potion said to
be forty times stronger than morphine. Idiots doing idiot things

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because they're idiots. However, when she consumed it, apparently her
whole body cause was started to spasm and when it
edited her system. Local reports there said she died hours
later at the Red Cross Hospital. Not yet confirm whether
the poison caused her death. I'm going to go with yes.
Durango State Attorney General's office said they're investigating her death
and looking for the leader of this spiritual retreat, who

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happened to have fled the scene after she died. Autopsy
is currently being investigated, and it's thought to have a
clearer idea of the car death once it comes back.
Says she had a vast movie career, mainly worked in
the United States, but also took jobs in Mexico, co
starring in the indie rom com New Low.

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You, Joe. Variety dubbed it a cult hit. Joe, you
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your home every day or every week or whatever often
it comes. No thanks Dad, anyway. Don't drink giant monkey
frog poisoning or or or don't engage in a closing
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advice we've learned over the years of the Stack. Argue
with that the Stack is stupid. That if your quote
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Motel six, you might not want to do that either.
Fivefty five ifty five cares to detalk station. Feel free
to call love to hear from You got plenty to
talk about, including what the caller mentioned This Chinese hack

(35:57):
latest in a long campaign by the Chinese Communist Party
to gather information, made even worse by an article I
found from the Rutherford Institute headline, you better watch out.
The surveillance State is making a list and you're on it. Wow.
Mind blowing. It's like a boiled down version of literally

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everything Dave Hatter has been talking about in the Morning
Show over the last ten years. And it's scary. Don't
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day h Briyantom Soush and everybody Very Happy Friday. And
still mocking the Cincinnti public schools for closing because of
cold weather. I'm just reeling over that teachers have to
show up. If teachers can make it in, why can't

(37:01):
the kids make it in anyhow? It's just frustrating me
this morning, among other things. Before I get to the
story that the Restless or the Caller mentioned earlier in
the program, At these Chinese Communist Party hacks, a couple
of things real quick here. I probably assume that you've
heard by now that the United Healthcare CEO got assassinated
yesterday in New York City, was getting ready to go

(37:22):
to the United health Group investor conference. His name Brian Thompson,
no relation. Clearly thought it was really wild that he's
married to a woman named paul Ette or the late
Brian Thompson was married to paul Ette, since that's my name,
so we've got a close name connection. But here's for
my conspiracy theorist friends out there, let's start one. No

(37:44):
idea why it was targeted for assassination. Clearly everyone has
concluded he was targeted the assailor or the assassin was
waiting for him, apologize. Evan Proms this morning waited for him.
Obviously wanted that specific guy, since he was hanging around

(38:06):
for a while waiting for him to come out. United
Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was one of a number of
senior executives being investigated by the Justice Department for insider trading.
Apparently he had exercised stock options. Nothing nothing to see here,

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sold shares worth fifteen point one million dollars in February,
roughly two weeks before news of the federal antitrust investigation
became public. So go ahead draw your own conclusions, because
I say, conspiracy theory can start stirring the pot of
that one. Because after he died, United Health Group Incorporated

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stock jump five point five six percent. Yesterday it's up
to six hundred and ten dollars and seventy nine cents
a share. Now, I will acknowledge that the pre market
futures are are trading down, but not much compared to
the five point five percent increase yesterday. I'm sorry, five

(39:14):
point five percent, a five point five to six fifty
six cents jump in the stock price. That was zero
point ninety two percent, So almost one percent increase in
the stock price now I get my facts right. Anyhow, nothing
to see there. It'd be interesting to find out why
specifically he was targeted, because no one knows where that
guy went. He took off on the New York City

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version of a red bike. Apparently they have enough money
in New York City to pay for that. Anyway, Over,
the frightening reality that the world, obviously of warfare, has
changed dramatically since everything on the planet is now connected
by the Internet or so electronically in some form. The
Chinese government hackers have compromised telecommunications infrastructure all around the world,

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according to US security officials in a release yesterday describing
it as a massive espionage campaign press conference with Anne Newberger,
President Biden's Deputy National Security Advisor for cyber and Emerging Technologies,
said this so called salt typhoon, as opposed to volt typhoon,

(40:22):
which we've talked about before. Salt typhoon campaign is ongoing.
And that's a word worth circling when you're reading about this,
because it ain't over. And wait till you find out
what they've been listening to and capturing by way of
data that hit at least eight telecommunications firms in the
United States. They were all breached. According to her statement,

(40:42):
the Chinese compromise private companies exploiting vulnerabilities in their systems
as part of a global Chinese campaign that's affected dozens
of countries around the world. Now, of course, the Chinese
government denied it. Nothing is he here right? We don't
interfere with elections. This was first reported back in September

(41:03):
in the Wall Street Journal, but her remarks the most
specific public acknowledgment yet by our government regarding this vast
scope and severity of the hacking campaign, which investigators of
Trace two. Of course, the Chinese Intelligence agency. Wall Street
Journal previously identified Verizon AT and TT Mobile Lumen technologies
among the victims, but also you, as was reported or

(41:30):
released in her conference yesterday, saying, in her words, a
large number of Americans have their cell phones and metadata
accessed in the intrusion. They declined to say how many Americans,
but said it wasn't believed that all Americans had their
metadata compromise. Well, isn't that comforting. Here's a list of

(41:56):
everybody that had their data compromise, and here's another list
of the people who who didn't. I'll let you guess
which list is longer. Anyway, to this metadata attack and
this capturing of all the data that's on, including probably
your cell phone, they say that it was regional in focus,
and thus they suspect the point was to identify phone

(42:19):
lines of valuable senior government officials. So you know, if
you target the greater Langley area, you're likely to capture
people the work of the CIA. You get the idea
of how that works. They see the hackers then targeted
the phones to steal uencrypted text messages, listen to some
phone calls as well. Previously reported, President elect Donald Trump,

(42:42):
Vice President elect JD. Van senior congressional staffers, and a
whole bunch of security officials here in the United States
were among our the United States were among a whole
bunch of folks described as scores who have had their
calls and texts directly targeted in this particular attack. And
I had read that specific report earlier, but now I
suppose this release from our intelligence folks reflects the massive

(43:05):
size and scope, far bigger than they originally had reported.
And it's reported that investigators are still working to figure
out the full parameters of the ongoing intrusions by this
Salt typhoon attack. It has not been eradicated. It is

(43:26):
still out there. In opressed briefing, Newberger said that it
wasn't believed that the classified communications were accessed in the breach.
It wasn't believed. Now you go ahead and take comfort
in that statement if you want. It wasn't believed that
classified communications were access to the breaches, but it's certainly

(43:47):
possible that they were. She said, quote, we do not
believe any have fully removed the Chinese actors from these networks,
So that is a reminder that there's a risk of
ongoing compromise of United States telephone calls until the companies
fully addressed the cybersecurity gaps that they have which allowed

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the Chinese Communist Party to enter it in first place. This,
in addition to the compromising private unencrypted calls and text
hackers were able to access information from systems maintained by
the carriers to comply with US surveillance requests. In other words,
there's stuff in there in the systems that the United

(44:31):
States government made them put in there so they could
get surveillance. Our government gets surveillance. Does that make it
any better? Is it cool that our government is surveiling
your phone calls without a warrant? But uncool that the
Chinese Communist Party is doing it as well? Again an
interesting thought question. Our Tuesday officials conceded that they don't

(44:57):
know when the hackers might be purged from the telecomis
munications infrastructure and urge people to use encrypted acts to
protect their phone calls and texts. Quote, it would be
impossible for us to predict a time frame on when
we'll have full evictions that, according to Jeffrey Green, senior
official at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, guests are

(45:18):
apparently is one of those. Well doesn't that make you
feel nice and comfortable? So, in other words, I glean
from that that this compliance with US surveillance request in
hackers that were able to access the system. Because of that,

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we in essence facilitated the ease of the Chinese Communist
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Six twenty coum with six twenty one fifty five Krcity
Talk Station. Very Happy Friday Eve. Thanks again every name
me to listener. Lunches day is just going through the
photographs again. Props in great thanks and love love to
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the Christmas jacket and sitting next to his lovely bride.
So congratulations again Mike. I'm kicking my butt in cribbage yesterday.
Let's go to the phone. See what Maureen's got today, Maureen,
Happy Friday Eve to you. Thanks for calling.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Good morning, Brian. I've planned on sleeping in until I
heard you say the word conspiracy. You're slipping. It's supposed
to be consp.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Pattern observer, pattern observer. That's it. That's it. Okay, and
you are my favorite. You are my favorite pattern observer.
I've acknowledged that over time, So thank you. Well.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
I do have three more things to add to your
story about United health Care. Okay, you already informed everybody
about thirty one percent and stuff that Brian Thompson soul
taking in fifteen one million, as you said in proceeds,
So now the other two things are in legal documents.
Investigators said that Thompson and other company executives sold over

(50:10):
one hundred and seventy million worth of United Healthcare common
stock during the four month period when insiders knew about
the federal antitrust investigation but the public did not know
about it yet. And the other things that are interesting
about this is that on February twenty first of this year,
United Healthcare discovered a cybersecurity breach on the same day

(50:31):
that Nancy Pelosi made her second purchase of Call options
in Power Auto Networks, which is a cybersecurity company that
was later chosen to investigate the breach. And Thompson was
ready to testify in front of Congress about United Healthcare's
hacks as well as their business practices. And now obviously
he's not able to testify in front of Congress.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Well, Marian, my pattern observer, did he have any connection
with Epstein, Pedophile Island or maybe then the White Parties?

Speaker 4 (51:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I don't know that multi billions digging, keep keep digging.
Something tells you you'll probably run into that at some point.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yeah, it's gonna be connected to them too.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Anyway, thanks for getting me.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
You know. I love you, Marien. Keep us on or
does and keep observing the patterns, and please keep FB,
Facebook Instant messaging me when you run across them. I
do appreciate it. Some I believe more than others. Some
are more likely to be true than others. And we've
been going back and forth for years and years, and
I Maureen, and she's been a long time listener, just
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man Ray Cummins and the awesome musical genius that he is?
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seeing him yesterday. Showed up be a listening to Lunch
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in traffic, little slow and still watching the building. Traffic volumes,
but thankfully the main roads and freeways are in pretty
good shape. I'm Heather Pasco on fifty five KRC the
talk station.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Winter is coming, Yeah it is. And the Sinsey Public
schools are closed because of cold weather. Yes, I keep
bringing that up. Why all the other schools are open
and how at least I presume so? Uh, just drive
me crazy this morning with that one fun fact before
we get to other local stories. Let's see what Jef's

(58:06):
got this morning. Jeff, thanks for calling on a happy Friday,
eve to you.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Good morning, Brian.

Speaker 12 (58:12):
So just on the conspiracy theory, as you're on a
quick Google search, most insurance companies have about an eight
to denial rate and uh services. Yeah, but United Health
United Health Caress that guy took over in two thousand
and four close to thirty five percent.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Holy cow.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
So it wouldn't.

Speaker 12 (58:35):
Surprise me if they find the guy and they find
out that he lost the wife or a kid because
of insurance or because of cover.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Yeah. And you know, Jeff, I agree with you completely.
When I saw the story and it first got released
and I found that it was Wow, you didn't even
know who the guy was. But CEO of United Health
gets shot in the back in a literal assassination a
target at attempt. That's exactly what went through my mind.
He probably had his claim denied or likely said maybe
a family member did. I didn't realize their denial rate

(59:03):
was that high. That that's that's substantial. Yeah, all right,
well let us speculate further. I appreciate it. Jeff, thanks
for calling this morning. Man if I went three seven
two three. You talk found five fifty on at and
T phones anyhow, Hamilton County's proposed budget they got local

(59:27):
festival organizers. Everybody's got their hand in the cookie jar,
don't they? From your taxpayered hours? Anyway, Local festival organizers
asking Hamilton County commissioners to consider an increase to a
proposed budget line item for large event grants. Apparently it's
response to the County Ministry's proposed budget, which is one
point seven percent smaller than last year, driven primarily by

(59:48):
reduction in sales tax revenue over certain months. Thank you
Andrew Rowan from WCPO reporting inflationary pressures driving consumers to
spend less, which impacts county governments sets their anyway. A
County Ministry's proposed budget reduces funding for economic development slash
tourism grants from one point two to five million to

(01:00:08):
six hundred thousand dollars. Apparently, grant funding went last year
to Blank Flying Pig Marathon Forbes thirty under thirty in
the Cincinni Music Festival. They split that grant money up.
At a public hearing Tuesday this week, America river Roots
Festival organizer to ask the commissioners to reconsider coach air.
Tim Fogarty quoted as saying, in a year like twenty

(01:00:29):
twenty five, once again we will be without downtown Convention
Center events like American River Roots or Vital of the
County's success. Thousands expected to gather on the banks for
that America River Roots festivals, celebrating the region's music, cuisine
and culture. So finite number of dollars and an infinite
number of things people want money for. Just a plain old,

(01:00:51):
simple reality. And go ahead and ask yourself how it
is that two inmates died in custody within one week
at the Hamilton County Justice Center. No one has any
ends yet. Fifty four years old Matthew Denlar died at
the Justice Center a last Thursday. I guess it was
the November twenty eighth, according to the department spokes first
in Kylo Woods again speaking well speaking with Cameron Knight

(01:01:14):
of the inquiry on this one, Thank you. Cameron. Admitted
to jail on Tuesday, November twenty sixth, Woods said Denlar
was had been arrested on open warrants. Woods said he
was found unresponsive Thursday in his cell. Officers and medical
staff attempted life saving measures. They were unsuccessful in that.
Then we had Jacob Grayson. Twenty five year old Jacob

(01:01:36):
Grayson collapsed Wednesday in the common area of the pod.
That was last Wednesday, according to Woods. Officers and medical
staff responded. They took him to UC Medical centerhere he
later died. No report yet from the coroner's office, so
we don't know the actual date of his death. Court
documents say Grayson was arrested on the twenty fifth on
a probation violation. He had pleaded no contest possessing fenton

(01:01:58):
or related compounds back in February, apparently parle violation because
he tested positive for fentanyl and then failed to report
to the probation department. In July, Enquirer said that fourteen
people have died at the Hamletin County Justice Center between
August of twenty twenty and September twenty twenty three, so
they can add these two to the list. That's apparently growing.

(01:02:19):
Corner's office working to determine the cause of death for
both of the inmates. Sheriff's office also investigating six thirty
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Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Six thirty nine I fifty five KRC Detalk station. If
you're having a wonderful Friday Eve. Coming on back Top
of the Hour News, John Houstad, you remember him, Lieutenant
governed in the state of Ohio. He's gonna be talk
about Ohio bathroom bill and Ohio Adoption and Pregnancy program.
So wait around for that. Top of the ur News.
Donovan O'Neill be on at seven thirty to talk about
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(01:04:55):
At eight oh five, William Hazel grow with his book
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Jay Ratliffe and I hope you enjoy hearing from I
heard me the aviation expert joints us a day thirty.
We got a whole bunch of things to go over
with Jay in the meantime. Over to the phones, Al,
thank you for holding over the break. Welcome to the program.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
Good morning, Brian. I appreciate you taking my call. I'm
generally a listener. I try not to speak too much,
but I felt somewhat moved to call after Larry made
his comments about college, and I felt that there was
a need to add some context to you were my

(01:05:41):
and I'm sure many parents out there about college education.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Okay, real quick, hold on, real quick, real quick. I
just I'm going to re ceute it so the listeners
who weren't listening earlier know what we're talking about. I
had made a very awful hand. I had made a
very off the cuff statement about the lack of value
of a college education without providing any context, and I
should have. And then he followed up and said, basically,

(01:06:06):
what do you mean by, you know what the valueless?
In essence? And I said, certain degrees I view as
a colossal waste of time. Don't go into debt for,
for example, an art degree, because there's not a lot
of employment opportunities out there in the art world. Get
a degree, yes, definitely, if it's in the business realm
or the like, for engineering or other there are many

(01:06:26):
fields where a college degree is not only valuable, but
often absolutely required. So I thoughtful, you know, cost benefit
analysis is really what I've always advocated for, rather than
just saying I'm going to go to college and get,
for example, I my degree, a political science degree. If
that's all you're going to do, I don't recommend doing that,
so go ahead with your thoughts and comments on that

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general topic.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Al okay, well, I appreciate that you know two points.
First of all, I had the experience of being in
the belly of the beast, actually cared for many of
our young skulls full of mush at the medical center
at one of our esteemed public universities in Ohio. And

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I did that for a couple of years. And I
made a point of asking each student that came in
to see me, why are you here? And the full
eighty five to ninety percent of the individuals that I
saw during my tenure gave me the same answer, and
that answer was to experience college. And what that left

(01:07:35):
me was WTF moment several times a day. And the
thing is, most of the foreign students, on the other hand,
actually came to this country to glean as much as
they could in some sort of stem subject there are

(01:07:58):
My thought is that many of the parents and many
of the students are taking on hundreds of thousands of
dollars in debt and getting nothing for.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
It except four year party.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Absolutely, don't let your kids watch Animal House ever.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
But no, I actually put three sons through school, and
I have three different results. My oldest son graduated with
a degree in political science actually diplomacy and Spanish. He
is now working the bank. My middle son graduated in

(01:08:49):
chemistry and he's actually using that degree. My youngest son
three years and his education process decided, hey, this isn't
for me, and I thanked him for dropping out, and
he is now climbing the rungs of a successful company
in Columbus and is now being put to school by

(01:09:15):
that company to learn exactly what he was trying to
learn in college, which was electrical engineering.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
There you go, there you go. That's awesome. Yet me see,
your outcome is a great one. I guess the political
science backs up my comment. Your son who got a
political science is working at a bank, and bully for
him for getting a degree in Spanish as well. That
has wide broad application because so many people in the
world speak Spanish. But you know, excellent outcomes all three.

(01:09:43):
And I'm glad you called back up to or called
up to clarify that and give us your personal illustration
on that again thoughtful analysis. When you said eighty five
percent for the college experience, you know what someone had
set me down my first couple of weeks or months
in college, I might have given the same response because,
of course, in high school, yeah, I saw Animal House

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five six forty five, he talks, and I also had
older friends who were already involved in the college experience,
and most notably the fraternity life, which made me salivate
at the prospect of going to college really had nothing
to do with the degree that I was pursuing at
the time six forty five. Right now, New Hampshire Gary
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Otherwise you're moving pretty well on those main roads and freeways.
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Station sixty if you five KRCPY talk station. Very happy
Friday evening, Thursday whatever, petend coming to John Houston at
the top of the air, news on the high bathroom
bill and you how adoption and pregnancy programs in the
meantime over the phones, New Hampshire, Gary, thanks for holding
over the break there, my friend, welcome back to the show.
Good to hear from you today.

Speaker 16 (01:13:25):
How you doing, Brian?

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
I keep my train of fluck here. It's snowing up
here and I'm driving through it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Wait a second, are the children in New Hampshire going
to school today?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
They called the whole state off today. It's just like
it's oh my god, no, it's got a niche just snow.

Speaker 5 (01:13:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
It's raining too, it's rain.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
You know you're done, no school?

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Stop the world, it's raining. It's just crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:13:57):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
My thought is a is and I'm just trying to
think forward a little bit. With Hunter Biden getting community fine, okay,
for the last ten years. Fine, Okay, you're dealing with
a lot of unsavory people, both in China, Ukraine, Russia,
the whole world, and you can't help but to think,

(01:14:20):
if he's going to be testifying, or if it's forced
to testify, if he's not going to wind up like
Marilyn Monroe or Jeffrey Epstein or somebody like that. You know,
he ode who would be shocked, you know. Oh yeah,
I'm not saying that's a good thing, but I see
some really bad scenarios coming up in the future for this.

(01:14:43):
You know, I got my popcorn out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Actually, yeah, keep it up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
I'll still be done way or another, you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
Know, yeah, keep it out. I'm surprised you didn't bring
up Brian Thompson, the late CEO of United Health Group,
who was facing his own issues in terms of the
securities investigation he was involved with and got assassinated the
other day. So add that to the list. That's why
I was joking earlier with Maureen. My pattern observer. We
don't call it conspiracy theories anymore. We call it pattern observation,

(01:15:10):
which is aligned with what you're talking about right now
that you know, maybe he was also on a pedophile
Island with Mike geb Er, with Epstein and maybe he
actually attended some of Ditty's white parties. Who knows the
details that guests come out. It's why we keep our
popcorn out at all times. Gary, great hearing from your brother.
Careful out there in that snow, watch up for school

(01:15:32):
children who aren't actually going to school.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
I was thinking about this as we get over to
the top of the our news and talk to Lieukenant
gumnor John Houston about these bathroom bill and I don't
have any problem with it. I appreciate it, Jared, Gary,
I don't have any problem with keeping men in a
transgender women. I'd be a guy that believes to be
a woman, and I don't deny the existence of those folks,
and I don't deny what's going on in their head
makes them really believe that they're that particular sex. So,

(01:15:58):
in spite of the fact you got a twig and berries,
think inside your head that you're a woman and therefore
should be treated by like a woman and be allowed
to use women's facilities. At least that's the concept of
what's going on. That's why we have the bathroom Bill,
which prevents biological men, biological men from now using women's restrooms.
And I understand why that is offensive to some people,

(01:16:20):
me included not the bill itself or the law itself,
but the idea of biological men going into women's bathrooms.
Because I have a daughter, and I think of my
daughter now twenty eight engaged. I'm so happy about that,
But as an eight year old, or a nine year old,
or a ten year old, any young lady, young person,

(01:16:42):
a girl. And I only bring that up again because
as we go over to the top of our news
and enter to this conversation with Lieutenant Governor, remember that
you are a transgender woman, in other words, of biological
male that believes to be a woman. That does not

(01:17:04):
define your sexuality. What you are drawn to sexually is
independent of what's going on in your head. So, for example,
if a transgender woman was attracted to women, and that
is certainly possible, right if they weren't a transgender woman,
that would make them a heterosexual male. Now, if you

(01:17:30):
are a heterosexual male, should you be allowed to use
women's facilities if you don't profess to be a woman.
Isn't that generally the concern that we you know, rational,
common sense, chromosomally based, scientifically based people think about this.
You know, the idea of men being in women's bathrooms,
if you take the transgender woman label off of it,

(01:17:53):
you're talking about a guy going into a woman's bathroom. Now,
that guy may be attracted to men, in which case
the idea of them molesting your daughter is probably pretty low,
unless they're a pedophile or perhaps bisexual, in which case
they're attracted to everybody. It's a very complicated thing, But
it's not that there's a discrimination against a transgender woman necessarily,

(01:18:18):
so much as the idea of a girl being molested
by someone, which I suppose a woman could molest another
girl in the bathroom too, if a well trended lesbian
right and guys. You know, over all these years where
there's been separate men's rooms and women's rooms, we have
may have been surrounded by gay men. I've been I'm

(01:18:40):
fifty nine years old. I don't know how many times
that happened, and I'm guessing it's happened a gazillion times.
I never got touched, Nobody ever tried to lay a
finger on me. I never got hit on in a bathroom.
Maybe it's just because I have a face for radio.
I don't know. But that's the reality that we're dealing
with here. So it's a question of one's sexual proclivities

(01:19:01):
cloaked under the veil of this idea that you can
be a gender that you're not. So whether or not
you believe that you can be a gender that you're
not doesn't take out of the equation the whole concept
of one's sexual proclivities. So just let that percolate in
your brain a little bit, because we're gonna have Lieutenant

(01:19:23):
comn to John Houston to talk about the bathroom bill
as well as Ohio adoption and pregnancy programs. Then we
get Donovan O'Neil for Americans for Prosperity to talk about
school choice expansion. That'll be after the news stigure out.

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and pregnancy help, the common sense as you described a
bathroom bill recently signed in a law by Governor Mike Dewain.

(01:20:10):
Welcome back to the firty five Cacy morning. So, John Huston,
it's always a pleasure speaking with you.

Speaker 8 (01:20:15):
Great to be with you this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Okay, let's start with an interesting thought question, shall we
before we get to the details. Basically, the bathroom bill
requires you know, if you when you are born, you're
as signed agender X and Y chromosome, you're a guy, period,
end of story. That scientific reality. So that means you
can't go into a women's bathroom K through twelve and
higher education. That's basically the summoned substance. You know, boys

(01:20:39):
going to boys rooms, girls going to girls rooms. But
transgender women means you are a X Y gender male.
But believe and I'm not going to deny your belief structure,
but believe yourself to be a woman. Question, John, you said,
if you what test is there? This is why I

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justify the bill and think it's appropriate. What does it
take to become a designated true transgender female? And I'm
thinking about this in the context of the COVID nineteen
religious exemptions for vaccines. They started asking people questions about
how often they went to church, what they believed in.
There was all these layers, which was totally unconstitutional. But

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does anybody ever ask the transgender female, did you just
declare this before you went into the bathroom? Is that
enough to allow you to get in the bathroom. This
is the kind of problem we face because I have
a daughter, and it worries the hell out of me
that a guy, a forty year old guy, who just
stands up one day, holds his hands up and says,
I'm a transgender female. It's going to be in a

(01:21:43):
bathroom with her. You know what I'm saying, Amen, I do.

Speaker 17 (01:21:48):
It is really unbelievable that we're at a point in
the world where we actually need a law like this
where it says to you know, if you're a biological
man at birth, then you will go to the boys
or men's bathroom, and likewise if you're a female.

Speaker 8 (01:22:07):
That is common sense.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
That is what I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:22:13):
For all of my life fifty seven now and all
of my life up until what five ten years ago,
like this was how we all, like no one questioned
that this is what we should do, right, And now
all of a sudden, Now, all of a sudden, we
think men can play women's sports, they can undress in

(01:22:35):
their locker rooms, they can use their bathrooms, forty year
old men going into the same bathroom with a ten
year old girl, not you know, your teenage daughters not
having a private space to I mean, it's just all
of these kinds of things that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Literally we have a.

Speaker 8 (01:23:00):
Section of society that believes that that the whole world,
a whole history of humanity, should be changed over how
someone views their gender in their mind.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Yeah, you know, and it makes it and it makes
it worse because you know, it's one thing because okay,
someone might say, well, there's a stall and you're not
going to be looking at someone's junk or whatever. This
includes showers, this is locker rooms.

Speaker 8 (01:23:28):
This is okay, I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
You I wouldn't.

Speaker 8 (01:23:35):
I was, actually, you know, I was in disbelief that
this was happening, Like I was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
It was hard to believe.

Speaker 8 (01:23:40):
But I remember my one of the conversations I had
with Riley Gains, the Kentucky swimmer who has been really
outspoken on this because she'd lost she'd lost a a
NCAA championship to a man who claimed to be a
woman and swam in a women's meat in NCAA let

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him happen. She said that she was in the locker
room with this man who had full male gentle talia, yeah,
and was in the locker room undressing and is going
to swim in the women's meat. And like, how in
the world adults around this process could ever come to

(01:24:22):
conclusion that that was okay, that this was that the
whole rest of the world should change and accommodate. That
really is what led to the need for these laws.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Well, and I'm glad they're in place in Ohio now.
Now the other component of this, and it's something that's
quite often overlooked, I think the presumption the arguments from
you know, those who are going to appeal this law,
like the ACLU and the LGBT activist group were going
to claim it's unconstitutional or something. The idea of a
transgender woman again, a guy believing in his heart or

(01:24:55):
her heart of hearts whatever, that they are Indeed, a
woman does not in any way, shape or for determine
what their sexual proclivities are. In other words, they could
be attracted to women even though they identify as a woman.
Meaning there is a forty five year old guy with
full junk in the locker room and it's still attracted
to women. That's the creepy part. Now, I know I've

(01:25:16):
been in bathrooms. I'm fifty nine, it's a little bit
older than you. And I'm sure that all throughout my
life there have been gay men in the bathroom. Never
had an issue, no problem, never been molested or attack.
But I'm also in a better position to defend myself
because I'm a little bit on equal footing with them.
As you point out with Riley Gaines, men have a
substantial size and strength advantage over women generally speaking, putting

(01:25:38):
women at a significant disadvantage if they're in a situation
where they're someone's trying to molest them in the in
the girl's bathroom.

Speaker 8 (01:25:46):
Yes, and look, there are plenty of ways that we
because I acknowledge that, Okay, there's a small percentage of
people who have gender identity issue, y in a buck,
call it what you want, okay, uh, And and there
are you know, we have men's restrooms, we have women's restrooms,

(01:26:09):
and then we have these single use family restrooms or
where where where an individual can go into those and
change or go to the bathroom do And those are
perfectly appropriate accommodations for somebody in that situation. But the
rest of the world should not have to accommodate something
that makes them feel uncomfortable or threatens their privacy. And

(01:26:35):
so this is a very common sense way to deal
with the issue, in my opinion. And look, this is,
as you well know, the whole issue of transgender surgeries
and treatment for minors was before the US Supreme Court
yesterday challenging a Tennessee law that's similar.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
To the Ohio law.

Speaker 8 (01:26:56):
Uh, you know the idea, because we're learning more all
the time about the the fact that there are young
people who've been persuaded to have these gender trans uh
transgender surgeries and chemical hormonal treatments who had them as

(01:27:17):
a youth and now as adults, really regret having done
that because they were just confused. They might have been gay,
but they were not transgender. Somehow the medical professionals or
the adults in their lives persuaded them to do this,
and now they have irreversible situation as adults. And so
this is this is an issue about protecting everybody. They

(01:27:41):
might giving giving transgender individuals, particularly children, accommodations, but let's
not go too far with this, particularly with kids.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
And I'm not certain and I do not believe it
is the town count of John Hyson that it is
the considered medical standard of care to start giving youth,
you know, pre pubescent youth gender hormone surge replacements to
keep them from advancing into puberty or otherwise lopping things

(01:28:16):
off or sewing things on. That is a dispute within
the medical community.

Speaker 8 (01:28:20):
Oh, absolutely, And there's a lot of evidence, a lot
of evidence that it's in the aggregate doing more harm
than good. And understand like not to get into them.
I'm not a doctor, but i will share I've done
a lot of reading and listen to a lot of
smart people on this topic who will tell you that

(01:28:40):
if you do this to a child and they do
not go through puberty, that is an irreversible situation for
them as an adult. And let adults make those decisions.
Don't have adults making them for children, particularly at very
very young ages, which was where we're seeing a lot
of this happen.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Amen thenago and who said, let's pivot over to something
positive and what we're doing here in the state of Ohio.
And I know you have a personal connection with the
idea that you know they're in. There are unplanned pregnancies
in the world and we need to help support those
women in all way shapes and forms this National Adoption Month.
And I know you're an outspoken advocate for adoption on this.
You want to explain to my listeners how it is
you have such a close connection.

Speaker 16 (01:29:22):
Yeah, well, I was.

Speaker 8 (01:29:24):
I was adopted. I started out life in a foster home.
My birth mother had had two children and lost her
husband in Vietnam, and then became pregnant and didn't couldn't
afford another mouth to feed, and decided to have an adoption.
And I started out life in a foster home and
then had the greatest blessing that could have ever happened
to me. Two great parents, my mom and dad, Jim

(01:29:47):
and Judy Houston, adopted me. And so this is very
near and dear to my heart because I know that
foster care and adoption changed lives, not just the lives
and children. Every adult who tells you that they've done
it will say it changed our life too. Having this
child in our lives made it more purposeful and meaningful,

(01:30:10):
and so everything that we can do to promote adoption.
We have over three thousand kids in foster care right
now waiting for us forever home, and we want to
support that and we want to do all we can
to support adoption and foster care because there's so many
kids who, through no fault of their own, find themselves

(01:30:32):
in just a terrible situation and they need the love
of adults. I mean, I will tell you this, I
tell that story. It's not really about me. It's about
how an adult can change the life of a child
and give them a chance that they would have never
had before.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
I mean, think about that. I am talking with the
Lieutenant governor of the state of Ohio who came from
a foster home and was adopted. What an amazing thing.
I mean, your life is completely transformed, you know what.
I think there needs to be greater advocacy for adoption,
and we hear about adoption from time to time, and
I'm glad you're elevating it to this level of discussion
we're having here on the Morning Show. But you know,

(01:31:12):
planned parenthood is everywhere they promote abortion, they suggest, oh
you have to get an abortion. You're never gonna You
shouldn't bring that baby in a full, full term, you
shouldn't have it. They're like constantly all over the place,
just scream in that tune you know, wonder you wonder
where the chorus is of Wait. A second adoption is
a wonderful option, and great things come from families who

(01:31:34):
adopt young people that are in need.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Of a home.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:31:38):
Look, there are local women's and pregnancy centers because look,
we had a constitutional amendment in Ohio. Abortions are allowed
under the Ohio Constitution now basically you know, I mean
it's one of the most expansive abortion laws in the country.

Speaker 7 (01:31:54):
Now.

Speaker 8 (01:31:54):
Yeah, and so we have to change hearts and minds.
It's our only path right now. And so no, if
you're a man who's involved with this, a woman who's
involved with this, the parent, somebody, that there is support
out there through these women's and pregnancy centers. They're just
the women I've met, particularly women I've met who run

(01:32:15):
these things, who run these pregnancy centers. They are there
for you. They will help you through this process. They
will make sure that you're getting the healthcare before your
baby's born. That they have a plan for you to
make sure you have the resources you need to support
a healthy start for that baby, and connect you with
the resources are out there. You're not alone in this.

(01:32:37):
You're not alone. There are people who want to help
you have a healthy baby.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Truly, there are, and the resources are available. Sometimes you
just have to search for them. And because quite often
the other side has a much better advocacy thing going
on for you as.

Speaker 8 (01:32:55):
Your local pregnancy center. For the most part, if you
go into a search engine, say you know, try to
find a local pregnancy center, pregnancy center closest to me.
You can also use search words like adoption or support
for you know, young mothers, and you'll find it out there.
They're they're all.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
They're located all across the state.

Speaker 8 (01:33:17):
They don't have they don't have the promotional budget that
Planned Parenthood does, but they are out there. I've visited
many of them across the state. These are These are
angels who run this. They do not judge you. They
do not They do not say, you know, this is
what you should do with your life. They meet you
where you are, they say, okay, you're in this spot,

(01:33:41):
let's help you. They wrap their arms around you, love you,
care about you, and show you a way forward and
know that that resource is out there for you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
Tennant Conor Johnny, So thank you for your advocacy for
adoption and for women having their babies and noting that
there are the resources out there. And I certainly appreciate
your support for a common sense build. It is now
the law in the state of Ohio. It's good to
have you on the fifty five CARC Morning Show. Sir,
keep up the great work.

Speaker 8 (01:34:09):
Thanks Brian, appreciate it.

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It's seven twenty nine, halfy Friday eighth, fast forward an hour.
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which you can find online of Americans for Prosperity dot org.

(01:37:05):
It's always great to hear from Donovan and Neil. Welcome
back Donovan, and Happy Friday Eve to you. Brian, happy
to be back with you. Hopings are going well. They
are going great in that holiday spirit, and I feel
like it's not going to go away, so which is
just putting a little extra spring them a step these
late days now. I love the topic of conversation and

(01:37:25):
I hope it's all positive because I am a huge
proponent of school choice, recognizing that the public schools in
many cases not all my children went to public schools,
and so of why we both came out okay from
my perspective anyway, but some of the public schools are
literally failing our children, and many children basically are trapped
in them with no alternatives. I like the concept, at

(01:37:49):
least on some level. And the devil is always in
the details of, you know, letting the money follow the child.
So those who are on life's margins, who might not
necessarily be able to afford, like so many in the
public education system, do send their children to private schools.
Can't necessarily do that. But if the public money were
able to follow the child, that would give them a

(01:38:10):
lot more flexibility. It doesn't prevent them from going to
public schools. Of course, some of them are a magnet.
But there are other options out there, and some children
would and parents would certainly welcome the option of a
different alternative. I can't I don't understand, Donovan, how this
bears a political stripe unless you're a member of one
of the public teachers' unions. Beyond that, Democrat, Republican, Socialist, Communist,

(01:38:32):
Green Party, doesn't matter. If you've got kids, don't you
want choice?

Speaker 5 (01:38:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:38:38):
I mean, I think that's what you find right when
you actually begin to have conversations with folks on a
level of hey, how do we unleash as much education
opportunity in every student, every kid possible to ensure we
have the greatest opportunities not just for our country in
the future, but for every.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
Person lives here.

Speaker 15 (01:39:00):
And yeah, the large bulk of the opposition really truly
does come from the teachers unions. And don't want to
be clear, that's not necessarily the teachers. It's the administrators, right,
It's the bosses, It's the folks who've been out of
the classroom for a long time and make their living
off of forced unionization wages. Those are the largest opponents

(01:39:22):
of education opportunity. And then I think you have another
group of folks who are afraid of competition. They just
are afraid of competition, and when they see an opportunity
for them to lose control, they kick back.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
And on the whole though, I think we are the momentums.

Speaker 15 (01:39:39):
Behind the folks who are pushing for school choice, who
are pushing for education opportunity, who are pushing for empowering parents,
empowering families to make the best education choices.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
For their kids and their future. Now it sounds like
probably could have a whole big bunch of people, Like
I said, political affiliation doesn't matter here. Everyone should be
in racing this. So where's the hold of what's stopping
us from advancing this kind of concept? Has it been
tried elsewhere and being it has been proven successful elsewhere,
What's what's your response to that, generally speaking?

Speaker 15 (01:40:13):
Yeah, well, so part of the challenge I think is
momentum is kind of reminding folks where change needs to happen.
And so that's part of what we did just yesterday
this week, we brought about a dozen of our top activists,
top volunteers from across the state to the state House
for a day at the capitol to start laying a

(01:40:33):
foundation for next year. Because we talked to lawmakers right
and they've got a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
There's hundreds of.

Speaker 15 (01:40:38):
Bills Brian of course at the state Capitol, and so
they are juggling a lot of different pieces of information
and inputs. And what we've got to do is remind
him because they'll say, hey, we I thought we expanded
school choice already this session, and we now have you know,
anybody who wants to take an edge choice doctor can
do that, and aren't we already in pretty good shape?
And we could say yeah, largely, but there are forms

(01:41:00):
that need to happen. Still, we need to make it
easier for folks to be able to take your kid from.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
One school to another.

Speaker 15 (01:41:06):
We need to limit the amount of paperwork and bureaucracy
that a parent has to go through to make that decision.
And so we brought those activists to the State House
to be in a Layou foundation and say, hey, here
are the things we need to do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Start thinking about for next year.

Speaker 15 (01:41:22):
When everybody comes in bright eyed and bush retailed after
the holidays and ready to get work done in one
hundred and thirty sixth General Assembly.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Has the issue of school funding generally come up in
these conversations because in Ohio, apparently I keep going back
to the Supreme Court case from apparently like twenty years ago,
which said the funding mechanisms for schools is unconstitutional. And
yet fast forward twenty years here we are when the
funding mechanism hasn't changed any sort of property tax base.
We understand, But does that conversation and funding mechanism ever

(01:41:52):
come up when you're having the conversations about the idea
of choice.

Speaker 15 (01:41:57):
Yeah, it's one of the common areas, and especially with
our friends who are fiscally conservative, and wanting to make
sure Hey, look they're you know, they were elected to
make sure that the state of Ohio uses its tax
dollars in a fiscally responsible manner.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
That's that's an honorable position.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
To be in.

Speaker 15 (01:42:14):
The other concern, though, is in the local dollars and
making sure that we're not starving our public government schools
in our communities. Right, and so a lot of the
discussion when we talk about, hey, we need this money
for ed choice, or we need this money for backpack,
build a fund these programs like universally essays, all we
were ever talking about is the state share of that money.

(01:42:38):
It would have no impact on any of the local
dollars rays that go to the local schools. What we're
talking about is that money that everybody pays in through
sales tax, income tax, and otherwise the state brings together
and then redistributes across the state to school districts. We
think that money, right, Yeah, that money that comes from
the state should follow the kids, so it stays in
the education system and in fact is viewed as I say,

(01:43:01):
at a frontline education dollars, it goes in that kid's backpack,
it follows that student wherever they're getting their education in
the state of Ohio. So we're not taking money out
of education. We're just making that money a little more
flexible to follow the student where that student.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
Can get the best education opportunity possible. Okay, Now, putting
yourself in as difficult as it may be, Donald and
Neil for Americans for prosperity, putting yourself in the shoes
of someone who is against that concept. What are their
primary arguments? Since you've already addressed the idea of starving
local schools, that's not what you are talking about. So
what arguments are they left with to oppose this concept?

Speaker 15 (01:43:38):
Well, the argument that many of our opponents will make are,
we don't know what these kids are going to be taught.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
Do we know that they're getting as good of an education.

Speaker 15 (01:43:52):
Do we know that they're going to get as good
of an education as the school down the road compared
to the government school, the public school, but that you know,
is also on the other side of town.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
And our argument is.

Speaker 15 (01:44:05):
The parents decide that right like. The reason this is
in such demand is because for years we look at
report card at a report card, both students report cards
and school report cards, no matter how you slice or
dice them. We're not meeting standards. We're falling behind. And
that's not just an Ohio problem, it's an American product
across the country.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:44:25):
It's why it was an issue during the federal presidential
election this year. Right, We've got to do better. And
so the best way to ensure we think parents are
the best accountability driver. Will put it that way, parents
are the best acount of the drive. When they see
their kids report card, when they see their kids struggling,
when they see their kid having suicidal thoughts, when they
see their kid dealing with substance abuse, they're.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Going to move that kid from that environment.

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:44:47):
And what empowering families with choice does is gives the
parent the ability to make that shift to put them
in a school that's going to meet their needs. Every
student's unique school choice empowers to make those choices. And again,
can't say it enough. Parents are the best accountability measure,
well question one page document.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
And it is going to do better than that. And
again I always go back to I think most of
society's problems may be just built upon the concept that
the nuclear family has basically disappeared in large part and
there aren't too caring and concerned parents at home who
you know, putting attention towards what their children are learning
or not, as the case may be, let alone where

(01:45:30):
they might be at midnight on a Tuesday. But that
is a broader societal problem. But I embrace what you're
talking about. Of course, I appreciate Americans for prosperity, for
what they're doing in connection with the work on this.
What can my listeners do to help get behind this effort?
And I'm going to assume that most of my listeners
share our thoughts on school choice.

Speaker 15 (01:45:48):
Yeah, so we're coming up on a really busy time
of year. It's Ohio's budget season from January one through
June thirtieth or next year. A lot of policy making
happens in that period of time. We're going to be
bringing a lot of folks to the Statehouse and setting
up a lot of town halls and roundtables in legislators districts. So,
whether you can come to Columbus or you need to

(01:46:10):
stay local to southwest Ohio, we're gonna have opportunities.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Buckeye Blueprint dot Com.

Speaker 15 (01:46:15):
Buckeye Blueprint dot Com scroll all the way to the
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Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
Fill that out.

Speaker 15 (01:46:23):
A member of our team will reach out to you
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get involved either in Columbus or back home in district
with the representatives you folks voted to elect. You can
help us hold them accountable and get them to do
the things they said they would do when they earned
your vote this past November.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
And that's why I appreciate what Americans for Prosperity does.
They make it very easy to get engaged. Buckeye Blueprint
dot com, Jost Director, We'll add that link to my
blog page this morning at fifty five k SE dot
com so my listeners don't have to remember any independent
website as easy as it is to remember Buckeye Blueprint
dot com. But get engaged, get involved at AFP makes
it's so easy to do much in the way you've

(01:47:00):
made it so easy to get involved with the knock
the door knocking work for Bernie Moreno in the state
of Ohio, and we're well done on that. I wanted
to thank you again for your hard work and effort
on that. What an amazing accomplishment.

Speaker 15 (01:47:15):
We credit to all of our activists and staff across
the state who made that happen.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
And you know, now the real work begins, right. We've
got good folks selected.

Speaker 15 (01:47:22):
We got to support them and remind them the promises
they made in November or what we're counting them to
do for us next year. Hold that I think they're
going to do it, and we'll be excited to be
shoulder to shoulder with them making it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Shoulder shoulder or keeping their feet to the fire, as
the case may be. And I'll encourage my listeners to
get involved. Yeah in Columbus, are you Kidney? That seems
to be the biggest role you've got, Donovan. Good luck
with the effort. I strongly encourage my listeners to get
involved as well. Buckeye Blueprint dot Com. Thanks Donovan for
all the work you do. Best of health, and I
hope we talked before Christmas. But if not having Merry Christmas,

(01:47:54):
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What again, Thanks? Everybody, need to listener to lunch. It
was awesome, wonderful, wonderful time. It was great seeing everybody,
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(01:51:53):
making the America healthier again. The whole idea of bringing
to our collective attention. It's kind of like what I
was talking about John Houston about adoption. It doesn't get
the marketing that it's deserved. You know, there's a huge
amount of money bankrolling planned parenthoods. You hear about that
all the time. Abortion, of course, now it's fully legal

(01:52:13):
in Ohio, so there are alternatives, but sometimes the message
is suppressed a little bit, either for lack of money
lack of resources. But in the world of food, you
know you can read articles and talk about health, and
you know you'll learn about it in school a little bit,
although the food pyramid has changed like nineteen times since
I was in elementary school. But the idea of process

(01:52:34):
foods and I'm looking forward to having more information brought
out to the American public's attention about processed foods. And
I saw an article yesterday on Epoch Times. They don't
have to go into the details, but you know, the
headline was ultra processed food consumption linked to higher muscle
fat composition, regardless of calorie intake. So if you're eating

(01:52:54):
natural foods other than those like ultra processed foods like
chips and cookies and pre cooked frozen days as were
all mentioned as illustrations of ultra processed foods, they're really
bad for you. And being on the only reason I
bring it up is because you know, I'm not paying
that close attention to it. I did pretty much eat
anything I wanted before one of this diet, and I

(01:53:15):
was trying to do it in an effort to stave
off my cancer, because there's a lot of research that's
coming out now about starving cancer if you deprive it
of sugars and can go a long way to helping.
Like there's been some research studies published, research studies in
legitimate you know, like Journal of American Medicine Types Reports,
peer reviewed that you can reduce breast cancer tumors and

(01:53:38):
things like that by reducing or completely eliminating your sugar intake.
And there's a bunch of different protocols out there, and
again I can't go into all the details on it,
but watching my sugar intake alone, this diet do yourself
a favor if you never pay attention to it. Start
reading labels, start just looking at labels. Yes, the bread

(01:54:00):
you eat will convert to sugar, so you know carbs
are going to do that anyway. But look at the
amount of processed sugar or corn syrup that goes into geez,
almost everything.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
You know, a nikita die you can't even have ketchup
because it's got a heapload of sugar in it. I
know they make no sugar ketchups. Fine that see, there's
an alternative to it, But you have to pay attention
to what you're eating, So try doing that sometime. I
think we'd all do ourselves a favor by reducing our
sugar intake collectively. But you know, as much as I
may disagree with OURFK Junior on a number of things,

(01:54:36):
most notably his you know, his idea that he believes
also that you and I are exiling the planet into oblivion,
that's not what his job's going to be. Is job's
going to be to sort of raise our collective awareness
about healthier food options. You know, you're my listeners, you're
my friends. I love each and every one of you,
and it just it's I just want to get that
out of my system because being on a dial like

(01:54:56):
this it makes you, it forces you to pay attention,
and then you're like, holy crap, there is a ton
of sugar out there and we don't need it, and
we do have a significant obesity problem in this country.
So there, let me get it out of my system.
I appreciate that, and let's talk about the night orson

(01:55:17):
wells Terrified America with my next guest, William hazel Grove.
Right after the news followed by iHeart me the aviation
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It is a pleasure to have on. William Elliott Hayes
grow the national bestselling author of ten novels fourteen narrative
nonfiction titles. He was the Ernest Hemingway writer in residence.
This is a cool thing. He got to actually write
in the attic of Ernest Hemingway's birthplace. He's written articles
for like every major news outlet, USA Today, Smithsonian Magazine,
and a whole bunch of other publications. He's been featured

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on NPR, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune.
I could go on, but I want to talk about
his new book Dead Air The Night orson Wells Terrified America.
William hazel Grove. It is a pleasure heavy on the
fifty five KRSE Morning Show.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
Oh thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
I'm familiar with this story. I've seen the movie. I've
seen the original movie, I saw the remake of it.
I've also seen the sort of documentary movie about the
chaos that ensued as a consequence of hgu Wells airing
this on air radio play War of the Worlds with
nineteen thirty eight. I guess, as you point out October thirtieth,

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Halloween Eve, But I want you to set the stage
for my listeners for an understanding of how this was
such a widespread radio show. It was a play on
the air. They had actors doing different parts, sound effects,
all that live in studio at CBS Studio in New York.
What was the nature of radio back then? Because right now,

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of course, anybody can get any program anywhere in the
world with the Internet. But I was wondering was this
a syndicated thing that it went across to America? I mean,
was the power feed from CBS New York City's radio
studio so big like our local station LW that it
went on over multiple states? How did this program get out?

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
Oh? Well, you know a great question. Actually they had
one hundred and twenty six affiliates at the time, went
across the country. So you know, that's the first misnomer
about this War of the worlds that people think, oh,
it's just restricted to the East coast. That's just not true.
It went right across the country and was picked up
by all these stations. And you know, again, I when

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I wrote this book, I did by newspapers. I used
the research of all these news verys and all these
small towns. The panic just emanated out and so they
were literally running for the hills in California, Missouri, you know,
all the way down to the south, down in Mississippi.
It was just you know, it traveled across the country.

(01:58:19):
As he said, radio was a new medium at this
time that you know, everybody had a station. Because what
it happened was it's a dayton Land crisis with Hitler
wanting to invade Czechoslovakia. It just occurred two weeks before.
Said there was these breaking news bulletins going off all
the time, and and Wells used that in his show.

(01:58:41):
He used breaking news bulletins. He made it as realistic
as possible, and he listened to it today even today.
But so I had someone, so listen to it. You
think it's actual news. Yeah, you know, you know Martians Lady.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
Now, in terms of HGUS at the time, I guess
he was an unknown entity. Im minorities what hjewels and
up accomplishment but accomplishing. But at this time was was
he a newbie kind of guy that nobody ever heard of?

Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
Oh you mean Orton?

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Uh, he had some fame, he had been he had
produced these two plays. Uh, he only had about a
million listeners. But on this night, because his show was
a sustaining program, he didn't have a sponsor, a right
sort of for it was for the good of the country, right,

(01:59:32):
They had this thing then, and so the the you know,
playing at the same time was to Charlie McCarthy hour,
Edgarburg and Charlie McCarthy, which had twelve million listeners. Okay,
so what happens during during the Charlie McCarthy hour, they
go to Nelson Edia singer and guess what happens with
What happens now everybody started surfing the dial and they

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ended up on War of the World in Progress. After
the station you know, identification and everyone it's like, oh
my god, you know, and growers. And in New Jersey,
our Martians have landed and you know they're using poison
gas and heat raising, killing everybody, and you know, so
Wells got supercharged that night. Also, radios in Carns had

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just become a thing. You know, all these cars now
had radios, and this was a very new phenomenon, you know,
driving around with a car radio. So people in the
cars for the first time, we're hearing this, and they
started just driving like maniacs. The police didn't know what
was going on. Everybody started speeding, getting accidents and going
through red lights and you know, not stopping for anything.

(02:00:36):
So it was a kind of perfect storm, you know,
on this this October thirtieth, nineteen thirty eighth that this
you know, broadcast took hold and was like a tsunami
of terror across the country.

Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
Now before the terror started breaking out in the panic
in the streets and blah blah blah, it's my understanding,
correct me if I'm wrong. Though, at some point Orson
Wells was told that, dude, you've got to let the
world know that this isn't real and that you are
broadcasting a play. So he interrupted the show to and
make that announcement. Is that part of my recollection? Correct?

Speaker 3 (02:01:10):
Actually what happened is Wells is doing the show. A
guy named Davison Taylor, a CBS executive, starts getting all
these calls saying where do we go? The martians are abating,
where's can we do? And they realize whoa, this thing's
out of control. He then leaves the control room and
tries to get in the studio. John Houseman, Orson Wall's
partner holds the door shut won't let him in because

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they know what they're doing. Right. So then the police
arrive and they come into the control room. Well sees
them and they try getting the studio and John Houston
doesn't let them. Why because Wells wants to get to
the eight thirty eight minute mark where who has to
take a station break? So for thirty eight minutes after
the initial intro, okay, there's no break, and by the way,

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we're the worlds. The first half is where ever everything happens.
The second half of the snooze just Wells walking around saying,
isn't this terrible to airthless concenrit But the first half
is all the fireworks.

Speaker 4 (02:02:08):
Oh wow?

Speaker 3 (02:02:10):
Well Orson knew exactly what he was doing. You know,
he was he asked, he was you know, he's that
kind of guy who would ask you to look through
his telescope and say do you see these stars? And
then thumpy on the head and safety as see him. Now.
I mean, he's that kind of you know.

Speaker 1 (02:02:24):
Now, did he okay? And so that's kind of the predicate.
So he obviously was obstruction and obstructionist in and stopping
it while it was going on real time? I get
that part. But did he know? Do you think he knowe?
Or is there any reports that he knew in advance
that it was going to cause this type of reaction.

Speaker 3 (02:02:45):
I don't think he thought the explosion would be as
big as it did. But Wells was determined. He had
studied the Hindenburg recording when HINDEMBERG crash w L Chicago
had an on the spot reporter who freaked out, and
so well studied that and so in his the guy

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named Carl Reddick is on the spot reporter with the Martians.
The Martians come out of their cylinder and they zapp
him and kill him on the air. And my book's
called you know, Dead Air and the reason for all
that is because then Wells in the studio holds up
his arms for everybody, everybody, musicians, the actors, everybody to
not say a word. And as you know, dead air

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on the radio is just taboo. Well for six seconds
he holds that silence, as says, after this reporter dies
on the air, people freaked out. They thought, oh my god,
we just heard this guy get Zapp.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
And he died. Oh right, it'd be like right in
the middle, like you mentioned the Henburg all the humanity,
the humanity and then gone.

Speaker 3 (02:03:49):
Exactly he made he made radio part of the play.
He took he wrote the third wall. We're used to
that now, you know, you see House of Cards, all
sudden Kevin Space will turn and talk to the camera.
That's what we was did with this. Suddenly radio was
part of the drama.

Speaker 1 (02:04:04):
Well, in terms of the reaction, okay, we know this
set up. Now, we know he knew at some point
that people were going crazy thinking this was true. I
note that the military actually also got involved. We had
actual our armed forces reacted on some level to this,
believing it to be true as well.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
Absolutely what happened was they had to put out a
release telling the armed forces this isn't this isn't real,
This doesn't happening. And because people kept saying, I heard
the President says, well Orson had this actor imitate the
Interior secretary the Interior and he said.

Speaker 2 (02:04:45):
You know what, you know what to do.

Speaker 3 (02:04:46):
This guy did a dead on a Fdr. Frankelin Dollan
and Roosevelt with all the speech tags and you listen
to this now and you're like, oh, that's Roosevelt. So
people are like, I heard the President say this, the
Martians have incinerated our army, you know, it was own compression.
Suddenly we're you know, eight thousand men got killed, and
then we're with a bomber pilot who's died by me

(02:05:07):
on the Martians. I mean it's almost a minute. So
when people panicked, they lost their sense of time because
later people said, well, how can anybody believe that all
that could happen? But you know, people weren't thinking, and
Wells was brilliant because here's the thing you want to know.
This is a broadcast, and a broadcast it starts with
dinner music at a hotel in New York. Then they

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cut from that to we've got breaking news. Something's crashed
and Grover's in New Jersey, and then back to the
dinner music, then back to the new you know, New Jersey.
We've got breaking news. The Martians are out and the
shooting people of the heat rate. So people, once you
bought into the music, you thought, okay, this is real,
and then okay, this is real. So you know you

(02:05:51):
were in the tunnel, and then it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:52):
Was off to the races.

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
Oh my word, and it's and you know, my my brain,
I logical, reasonable brain. That again, I'm surrounded by like
nine thousand different news resources. I never believe anything when
I first read it. I want to go out in
the world and look around to see if there's any
credibility associated with whatever random person says something. But you
mentioned the it's just the infancy of radio. Even car

(02:06:15):
radios are new. What about the idea of just changing
the station to see if anybody else is reporting about
the world coming to an end and if you don't
hear it elsewhere, doesn't that sort of reduce the credibility
of what's going on in CBS at that moment?

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
Well, you know this happened, people started surfing down. But
if you've ever been in a truly panic situation. You
start doing strange things. Little things become very hard to do.
I put in the key in your car, start in
your car.

Speaker 2 (02:06:40):
Well people did.

Speaker 3 (02:06:41):
They started to surf it down. Radio reception was iffy,
especially in cars.

Speaker 1 (02:06:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:06:46):
So there's a general with his wife in the Redwood
forest in California. They hear the broadcasts, They try and
get anication. They can't pick anything up. Oh my god,
the markets have knocked everybody up there. They run out
of gas in the woods. They sit there and wait
to get incinerated by the Martians. I mean, so this
happened people, because I just got named Cantrell, who did
a big report on this too, you know, immediately after

(02:07:08):
it happened. He was a Yale professor and he interviewed
all these people and that was one of the questions,
Well then you go on the down and said, yeah,
we did, but we you know, we couldn't find anything
else going on, or you know, some people said they
did find other people reporting on also too. Terror was
spread by the phone. People kind of phone said, you know,
Aunt Martha, you know the world's ending. The Martians have come.

(02:07:31):
And then so they said the footspoorts and Manhattan, which
are half block long just lit up, just totally lit up.
So it was being disseminated to other people who never
heard the broadcast. So it takes on that, you know, yeah, yeah,
that our fact, and everybody starts running, people running the
theater saying it's the end of the world. They're running
the churches, ants the end of the world. People are

(02:07:54):
confessing to affairs to their lives that you know, I
got to tell you, you know the broadcast, Oh.

Speaker 1 (02:08:03):
My god, how do you laugh about it now? But
I can only imagine the panic and the terror? Well
was there any actual death? It seemed to recall the
movie about the Panic. There was a scene where there
was a father who was getting ready to shoot his
children before the Martians were able to get him, sort
of like to you know, stop the tragedy with a tragedy.

(02:08:23):
Did anybody actually die as a consequence of this broadcast?

Speaker 3 (02:08:26):
Okay? It was a very famous story of a man
commit him and his wife is sitting at the kitchen
table with a vial of arsenic you know, who's going
to kill herself And he said, what are you doing?
She said, I'd rather go this way than by the Martians.
But as far as actual death. Two years after this,
Arsenalos is on a barn tour. He goes into hotel
cancers of another general. A man attacks him viciously. They

(02:08:50):
pulled him off, and the man's screen time said, I flow,
I'd kill you if I ever saw you. They do
an investigation and find out his wife did commit suicide
on the night of the broadcast.

Speaker 2 (02:08:59):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
Well, I'll tell you what, William Hazel grow It has
been a real pleasure talking with you about this amazing
story here on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Well,
your book is linked on my blog page. My listener's
going to go to fifty five KRC dot com to
get a copy of Dead Air the Night that orson
Wells Terrified America. William, Great job man. I just liked
the thrilling conversation. And thanks for writing the book. It's
going to be a real treat to read.

Speaker 3 (02:09:22):
Oh great, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:09:23):
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Speaker 1 (02:09:50):
A twenty eight on a Friday eve.

Speaker 2 (02:09:53):
Woo.

Speaker 1 (02:09:54):
Always enjoy this time because a good friend iHeartMedia aviation
expert ja I Love joins the program. Talk about a
whole slew of things. Man, we got a lot to
talk about this morning. Jay, welcome back to the program,
and I hope you are in a festive holiday spirit
this time of year.

Speaker 11 (02:10:11):
I'm in kind of a feisty mood, so yeah, I'm
more than I am more than ready.

Speaker 16 (02:10:15):
For our time. My challenge with you, my friend.

Speaker 11 (02:10:18):
Is just to bring my a game to keep up
with you, because you know, I do fifteen hundred of
these a year, and a lot of times the people
I'm talking to around the country, it's.

Speaker 16 (02:10:29):
They asked the question, they wait for their response.

Speaker 11 (02:10:32):
It's so engaging when you and I talk, and it's
hard to it's it's hard and challenging sometimes to keep
up with you. And I love it because rarely do
I get that.

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
So well, You're great at it, man, I wouldn't be
so enthusia about this segment. If you were some monotone
sort of guy reading the news kind of stuff, That's
why I enjoy our discussions. You don't have to worry
about boundaries or limits and go anywhere you hell the
hell you want, you know, and you.

Speaker 11 (02:10:57):
Have a sense of humor, which is good. I love
working with Jim Scott for ten years. And one year
he asked me on the air, Jay Man, how do you.

Speaker 1 (02:11:03):
Know all this?

Speaker 16 (02:11:04):
I said, Jim, what, I don't know?

Speaker 11 (02:11:05):
I make up And there's this pause of like five
seconds and I said, Jim, I'm kidding, so you know,
so you and I can laugh, and good lord, I've
missed Jim so much.

Speaker 16 (02:11:16):
But it's just, you know, I love our time together Brian,
and I hope it shows.

Speaker 1 (02:11:19):
It does and I love it. I love it as much.
I hope it shows to you too. So let us
discuss actually a new addition to the already lengthy list
of things today. I'm not sure if we'll get it
all in. But the airlines were in front of the
Senate yesterday.

Speaker 16 (02:11:32):
Oh yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 11 (02:11:36):
We had the Senate grilling five airline executives over their
practices and their airline fees and their seat fees. And
when all this was set up, I'm thinking, Okay, come on, guys,
this is posturing. All you're doing is these are photo ops.
Because if anybody talks about how glorious it is to fly,

(02:11:56):
how wonderful it is to fly, they're obviously lying because
you and I've talked about you don't enjoy travel, you
endure it. And the Senate panel was up there talking
to these airline executives and of course they were grilling
them over the seat fees and things that were their
costs of business and how their business operations were. And
I really think the government has z row zero zero

(02:12:18):
role in that. But what I did find interesting was
when they were talking about like Frontier and Spirit. Oh
I love this exchange where they said, why are you
incentivizing your gate agents to find bags that are too
big so they have to be charged a carry on fee?
Because Spirit and Frontier have paid out in incentives.

Speaker 16 (02:12:39):
Now, remember these.

Speaker 11 (02:12:39):
Are people that don't make a lot of money working
for the airlines, right, twenty six million dollars in like
two years, wow, because they give them like ten bucks
a bag if you find something that's too big, We'll
give you ten bucks of the thirty, forty fifty whatever
that ends up being charged. So they're actually out there
out they're looking for bags they're too big.

Speaker 1 (02:12:59):
Do you find you Do you have any problem with
them doing that?

Speaker 3 (02:13:01):
Do you.

Speaker 11 (02:13:03):
As far as incentives?

Speaker 3 (02:13:04):
Absolutely not right.

Speaker 1 (02:13:05):
Because they're forcing the rules that are on the books anyway,
you're not supposed to have a book a bag that's
beyond X number of size. The employees are helping the
company meet its objectives. They're helping them earn the money
that they're entitled to because of the rules that you
agree to when you agree to fly on that airline.
So bully for them.

Speaker 11 (02:13:23):
Well, you know the thing that I just it amaze
me watching the United CEO the frontier that not a
single one of them and all that I reviewed, and
I didn't see every single second, but none of them said, Look,
our number one objective is to push that airplane back
on time period. That's where our money is made. And
if we have a bag that's too big, if we

(02:13:43):
miss something, we jeopardize that flight leaving on time. So therefore,
we're going to incentivize our agents to get out there
and look for things that could potentially delay our flight.
That's where the focus should have been. But they were
trying to play along, skip along, whatever. And I'm just thinking, guys,
you just go that they'd gone straight to the matter,

(02:14:04):
because I would have told every one of the senators, Look,
you want your flight to be on time, right, so
if we do everything within our power to do so,
you're going to be happy, right. And I would have
shoved it right back in their face and say, this
is how we accomplish that. Because passengers bring bags that
are too big. We've got to do this passengers. All
of the things that could have been addressed, But the
bottom line is the Trump administration, if it's anything like

(02:14:28):
Round one, they're going to back off. They're going to
let the airlines do whatever they want to do. So
I think a lot of this stuff that's been being
pushed right now is that is not going to continue.
And that's sad because I've told you I the Bideen administration,
it can't the end of it cannot get here too
soon today. But I do appreciate the fact that they

(02:14:49):
were hard on the airlines. They held them accountable, they
made sure that they did everything they could to help
push them towards better customer service, and.

Speaker 16 (02:14:56):
I will forever be thankful for that. And it's just
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:15:01):
I see so much of this as just the typical
political you know, the games they play, so they've got
sound bites for their commercials and all the other crap
that goes on. And it's sad to me thinking that
the airlines are gonna return to a time when you know.
But look, you and I both agree.

Speaker 16 (02:15:17):
Bright.

Speaker 11 (02:15:17):
I think I speak for you that airlines they can
do business any way they want and if people don't
like it, guess what. They're gonna fly another carrier. The
free market will determine what takes place, and please get
out of our face.

Speaker 1 (02:15:28):
Amen. And I guess I'm under the I think safe presumption. Again,
you're the expert on this, and if you don't know
the answer, just make it up.

Speaker 16 (02:15:36):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:15:36):
I'm under the impression that most people follow the rules.
So it's the guys who refuse to follow the rules
that show up with an oversized bag. Obviously it's not
gonna fit in the overhead bind it's not gonna fit
underneath under the seat in front of you. So they're
gonna stop. They're gonna have to tag it. They're gonna
put you know, everybody in standing in line trying to
get onto the airplane. This is the delay you're talking about.

(02:15:58):
Those people are fewer then the people who mind the rules.
So this is like trying to create a villain in
the airlines for providing this incentive, where there is They're
not a villain. There is the only group of constituents
out there that would benefit from this attack and maybe
getting rid of this incentive are people who want to
carry on oversize bags.

Speaker 11 (02:16:19):
And we can call those the minority, right, so we
could call it like the EPA checks we used to
have here in the city of While where you had
to prove and like only three percent of the cars
failed or whatever. Okay, wait a minute, why are we
continuing to do this? And that's exactly the point. But
you know a lot of people push back on airlines
and I've told you I'm not ever encouraging people to
do this. But when you show up at the gate

(02:16:40):
instead of paying to check your bag at the counter,
a lot of people drag that bag to the gate.
And when the airline says we're super full today, if
anybody would be kind enough to let us check their bag.
We'll do it for free. Okay, take my four bags
and then boom. You didn't have to pay a penny
in the check bag fees. Now, I'm not telling people
to do that. They do that all the time, and
you know, if it saves them money, I guess they
figure it's an okay thing to do.

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Speaker 1 (02:17:21):
You ever been in the cockpit before? Jay Raytliff has
It's a thirty nine on a Friday Eve. I heard
media aviation next for Jay rattlerf all right. So we
were talking in advance of the Thanksgiving holiday how busy
it was going to be, and so how did it
turn out in terms of airline travel and travel generally speaking?
Was it as bad as everybody was talking about?

Speaker 2 (02:17:42):
Well, it was.

Speaker 11 (02:17:43):
I always look at the number of people flying and
that is indicative many times of the challenges or the
success we had. Typically, the Sunday after Thanksgiving is the
busiest travel day of the year and we get every
day from the TSA the number of screen passengers.

Speaker 16 (02:18:00):
That they had.

Speaker 11 (02:18:01):
And actually on the Sunday after Thanksgiving, we did see
a record number of travelers. It was over three million
people that we had traveling. It was a record for
the year. That was the most that we had. But
the second busiest day is typically and always the Wednesday
before Thanksgiving. So when you go back and look at
the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, Brant that number was lower than

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what we expected. In fact, it was probably number fifteen
or sixteen ranking wise in the quarter alone had nowhere
near a record number of any kind, and a lot
of that had to do with the weather and the
number of delayed and canceled flights. So as the week progressed,
we were fighting weather delays that caused a lot of problems.
Delayed a lot of people, had people traveling on different days,

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canceling their reservations, all kinds of things. So even though
we ended the Thanksgiving holiday week on a record as expected,
the Sunday after Thanksgiving, as we tend to do.

Speaker 16 (02:18:56):
Every year.

Speaker 11 (02:18:58):
The other days that we had of the week, we're
a little bit subdued, and that's because we were fighting
some weather issues and fortunately it improved. Is that weekend
God here because we needed that. But some people it
was Monday or Tuesday before they could get home because
of some of the flights had been canceled, so it
was a challenge. Now airlines made money, and they made
quite a bit of it because this is their super

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Bowl week, the busiest travel week of the year, and
they can charge higher fares, and it ticks us off
when they do, but there's nothing we can do about
it other than after the first of the year. A
lot of people are looking at making next year's reservations.

Speaker 16 (02:19:31):
Buy them.

Speaker 11 (02:19:31):
If you know you're going to be flying, grab the
trip cancelation insurance, lock in those super low fares, and
then you're guarded against any future rating creation. That's what
the savvy travelers do that every year that they fly,
they say, look, I know what I'm flying. I'm going
to buy them as far in advance as i can. Yes,
I'll get nine million flight schedule changes once they make

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my reservation, But who cares. I've locked in a lower
fare and if it's the two entities, I want to
pay the less two. I've told you, Brian, it's airlines
in the irs. So if I can pay early to
pay the airlines less, you better believe it. I'm going
to do that every single chance I.

Speaker 1 (02:20:06):
Get, every chance you get. All right, Well, you always
emphasize how safe airline travel is. I mean, notwithstanding the
fact that Boeing has doors blowing off the aircraft and
crazy stuff happens, but overall it is a very safe
means of travel. You know, compared to automobiles and pretty
much any other form, you're probably less likely to get

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killed in an airline crash. So apparently somebody added up
all the passenger miles flown since the last crash. What
is the total on that one, Jay.

Speaker 16 (02:20:36):
Yeah, this goes back.

Speaker 11 (02:20:37):
Got a fifty seven hundred and some days. The last
airline crash we had was the Colgan Air crash in
Buffalo killed fifty people February twelve, two thousand and nine.
So someone who obviously and clearly had way too much
time on their hands did add up all the number.

Speaker 16 (02:20:52):
Of passengers who've.

Speaker 11 (02:20:53):
Flown since then and the miles they've flown going back
to that crash comes out to thirteen point three trillion miles.
In other words, two light years if you know what
that means. And of course I don't know what a
light year is, but here's what I do understand. It's
the same number of miles that would be accumulated if
you and I again, this is the number of miles

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flown safely since the last aviation crash here in the
United States. You and I could go to the moon
and back twenty eight million times.

Speaker 16 (02:21:27):
That's how big of a number it is.

Speaker 11 (02:21:29):
So when when I say you're in a lot more
danger getting to the airport then you're going to be
getting on a plane, it's because, as I've said so
many times before, and we've talked about this for years,
we're enjoying, thank god, the safest air ever of commercial
jet travel. And that's because we have better technology. You
have better training, The pilots have more at their disposal

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than ever in history. We've got mechanics, air traffic controllers.
Everybody's doing their job on the ground in the skies.
And you know, the only danger is if we start
to become a little complacent, and that's where the Boeing
conversation begins and.

Speaker 16 (02:22:05):
I have not had enough coffee for that one.

Speaker 11 (02:22:07):
But amazing when you look at just how safe aviation is.
And Brian, I remember when I got started in the eighties,
we had we had them every year and the question
was how many are we going to have this year?
We knew we were gonna have accidents, we knew they're
going to be fatalities, and this is back in eighty
one eighty two, and it was a matter of how
many are we gonna have this year? It was it

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was never a even though we wanted it a foregone conclusion,
you know, could we have fewer or maybe none this year?
But every when you look back at the history of aviation,
sadly it's a reality that seemed to always creep up.
A lot of it had to do with pilot there.
And thank god for the NTSB, the National Transportation Safety Board,
are the all stars because every single accident or near accident,

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they would try to glean from that the mistake or
mistakes were made, enhancements that could be made, and they
would pass those on as recommendations to the Federal Aviation Administration,
saying here's our suggestions, twenty three ways where you can
make aviation safer. Now, my arivation is the FA might
take one or two of those only implement them into

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new changes. But Brian, from every single accident or near accident,
we've made aviation safer. When we had the horrific crash
of Air Canada back here in the eighties of at CBGYE,
the NTSB came up, I think with twenty six different
recommendations on how to make aviation safer. Many of those
were implemented after that crash and the lives that were lost,

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and you're always wanting to learn from the crash so
that any lives lost, we can honor the memory of
those that we did lose by making aviation safer. And
that's what they've done, year after year after year, and
thirteen point three trillion miles. That's alone a lot more
than my little brain. And I deal with numbers all
the time, build numbers that big.

Speaker 1 (02:23:58):
I know, I know, I know, But like time I
mentioned you know a trillion dollars in debt or a
billion dollars spent, I always try to express it in
terms of thousands of millions, so you know you got
a billion, it's a thousand stacks of a million. A
trillion is a thousand stacks of a billion. It tends
to put things in perspective. So I appreciate your going
to the moon and back parallel on that figure. Let's pause.

Speaker 16 (02:24:19):
It helps us.

Speaker 11 (02:24:20):
Well, it's like the national debt right now, Yes, exactly
is thirty six trillion. And it's such a big number.
People don't understand it. But if you sat there and
went one, two, three, four in every second had a number,
it would take you a million years to get to
thirty six trillion. Yes, that's how big that number is.

Speaker 1 (02:24:37):
Oh, I'm gonna get your blood pressure.

Speaker 16 (02:24:41):
Yes, just well, yeah, pushing all my button and.

Speaker 1 (02:24:44):
You're gonna you're gonna stay I see on behalf of
the Spirit Airline employees. I think I understand why they
are as you described, furious. We'll bring Jay back for
a couple more topics. Hang on, it's eight forty six,
i'f be right back fifty five the talk station the
half hour with that Jay Rattliff. I forced them to
stay on for the whole time. Just these topics are

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great Spirit aeroloids. I think their employees are legitimately and
the word you chose furious explain to my listeners what
justifies their anger.

Speaker 11 (02:25:18):
Well, you talk about how Spirit Airlines, which has gone
into Chapter eleven bankruptcy. But before they they made that
leap Brian, they started laying off a lot of other pilots,
some ground personnel. They were selling off their airplanes. They
were obviously in a lot of trouble. They tried they
were going to merge with Frontier, backed off of that,
tried to merge with Jet Blue, was denied. They went

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back to Frontier. Frontier said no, we're not gonna merge
with you. So they're trying to make it on their own.
So they're selling off all of this, laying off employees.
And then it's found out after the paperwork comes out
on the Chapter eleven bankruptcy filings, because it's all right
there that just before the airline filed for Chapter eleven bankruptcy,
they paid up five point three million dollars in retention

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awards to five of their upper executives of the airline.

Speaker 16 (02:26:06):
Now, imagine being laid.

Speaker 11 (02:26:07):
Off, trying to figure out what you're gonna do with
your family for Christmas, and finding out that one of
the people used to work for was part of a
five point three million dollar bonus that was awarded before
the airline filed Chapter eleven bankruptcy. Now, Brian, all the
years I was in the industry, especially at Northwest Airlines,
I was in management, used to butt heads daily with

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my union friends, and I was never considered a union
kind of guy ever. But I tell you, when I
see this kind of stuff where executives get this kind
of money, when they are the ones responsible for the
airline being driven into Chapter eleven bankruptcy, it makes me
want to lose my mind because I'm thinking, but that's
corporate America, and that's one of the reasons I couldn't

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wait to get away from it all those years ago,
and it still.

Speaker 1 (02:26:52):
Bugs me to this day, I imagine so well, anyhow,
I'm still sorry for them. Not the airline executive is
naturally Frontier taking an upgrade move here. They're going to
provide premium first class seats.

Speaker 11 (02:27:07):
Now, yep, I love Frontier. Remember they're the carrier that
came here first, bringing their one flight to day from
Dayton to Denver down to Cincinnati. When people said, you're crazy,
that's where low cost carriers go to die. You'll never
make it. Frontier flourished. Here comes Allegiant, Southwest moves our
operation from Dayton. I love Frontier, and what they've said is, look,
some of our customers are saying they'd like premium seats.

(02:27:30):
So what they're going to do is they're on their
low cost carrier Airbus Aircraft. The first two roads are
going to be first class. And what they're saying is
we're hearing what our passengers want. But they're also following
the lead up. Remember Southwest Airlines is going to go
to assigned seats and have some premium or coach plus seats.
You've got other low cost carriers looking at this.

Speaker 16 (02:27:52):
Now.

Speaker 11 (02:27:52):
Frontier says, look, our numbers say, if we give our
travelers first class, we're gonna have ational revenue in twenty
twenty six to two hundred and fifty million dollars. They
think in twenty twenty eight that additional revenue because of
those premium seats that are going to be a little
bit more expensive than the typical Frontier seat, it's going
to be five hundred million dollars in revenue in twenty

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twenty eight. So they're going to be giving passengers what
they're asking for. They're going to make more money as
a result, and to fly a low cost carrier with
a first class option. I love that because what you're
doing is you're giving the passenger more options. You don't
have to sit there. But like every other carrier, they're saying,
we can really make some good money here by making

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this option available for passengers. And I tell you it's
a move that from the low cost carrier side, airlines
are shifting in that direction. Spirit Airlines was also a
carrier that's decided to do that, which is a long
overdue that's going to help them type of move. I
wish they had done it years before.

Speaker 1 (02:28:51):
Well, it takes it takes a little bit of that
budget stereotype off of the airline by having that option.
And you know, if you want you want to stretch
your leg out and still get a discount flight, it
sounds like a great idea to me.

Speaker 16 (02:29:03):
All Right, you're gonna be.

Speaker 11 (02:29:04):
On the premium if youre's gonna be up front. You
know a lot of people take take the bulkhead rows
like we do on those carriers. Sure, so you've got
that extra leg room, but to have a slightly bigger seat,
oh my gosh, yeah, sign me up.

Speaker 1 (02:29:13):
Yeah, no doubt about it, especially given the spillover effects
some flyers have into your seat. Leave it at that,
And as next to.

Speaker 16 (02:29:21):
My wife, Sherry, I'm always in good shape.

Speaker 3 (02:29:24):
I know you are.

Speaker 1 (02:29:26):
See that you married out of your element, you got
kicked your coverage taking good.

Speaker 16 (02:29:30):
I'm so far I'm married so far above my I
know you're exactly right.

Speaker 1 (02:29:33):
I know you and I both acknowledge that on a
regular basis as well we should. And it's smart advice
to men out there who are considering a spouse, marry
out of your league, oh big time. The more the
better of delays. What's going on out there in the
world of travel today, Jay, A lot of.

Speaker 11 (02:29:50):
Wind and weather towards the northeast, Washington, d C. New York,
especially Boston's getting pounded right now. We're sending quite a
few delays up there that sadly, are going to last throughout.

Speaker 16 (02:29:59):
The rest of the day.

Speaker 11 (02:30:00):
Anything south, anything west, very good shape. I don't think
you're going to see much as far as any other
than minor morning the icing delays, but those aren't too much.
But the real headaches, obviously, Brian today are.

Speaker 1 (02:30:10):
Going to be the Northeast, as always, wonderful having you
on the fifty five Cascity Morning Show Jay Ratliffe, and
looking forward to next Thursday and another enjoyable conversation. Best
of health and love you and your better half. Have
a wonderful weekend, my friend.

Speaker 16 (02:30:23):
You too, my friend.

Speaker 1 (02:30:23):
Thank you a fifty five fifty five KR City Talk
station wonderful conversation with tennant governor