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April 9, 2025 • 14 mins
Brian is joined by Donovan O'Neil of Americans for Prosperity to talk about people who are protesting Elon Musk and DOGE as well as Sunday's rally.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven thirty two. Happy Wednesday to you, Judge Ennen of Platona.
One hour on tariffs and the legality of tariffs, at
least the way Donald Trump's doing it should be rather interesting.
Prior to that, it's the best one two punch in
Radio with Congressman Thomas Messi joining us to talk about
the Dual Loyalty Disclosure Act as well as the country

(00:22):
of origin labeling. Can we get that back and maybe
we'll get a comment or two on tariffs from him
in the meantime, Welcome back to the fIF You have
Casey Morning Show from Americans for Prosperity, Donovan and Neil.
Great to have you on, Brian, always good to be
with you. So we got a big event coming up
on Palm Sunday.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
That's right, we sure do. It's a fiscal sanity rally,
something I think our country is in dire need of,
you know.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Just let me get your reaction real quick before we
talk about the details on that. He saw all the
insanity going on over the weekend. Did you watch any
of the videos of the people at these crazy rallies
being in viewed and asked exactly what their problem was
with Elon Musk, the work that Doge is doing, or
Donald Trump generally. I mean, did you come across with
any clear idea of what the hell they're talking about

(01:11):
or protesting about Donovan?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, you know one one no, and this is I'm
trying to wind up for something. There.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
No, there's not.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's not really clear. And you know, here's something I
think is important to keep in mind, right, especially as
you look at different election results that just came in.
There definitely is a number of folks out there who
are who are frustrated, who are upset or angry. But
I think here's what's key is they don't know why
they are. They're just being told from progressive organizations that

(01:44):
they should be upset with what's going on. I think
what we've got to make sure we're doing, Brian Ryan,
and you're a great megaphone for this in Southwest Ohio
is connects folks to the importance of what Doge, what
the President, what the new Republican majority Washington are getting
done right. They're raining and the spending, they're working to
create policies. They're going to put more money in people's
pockets and unleash opportunity here in the United States, and

(02:08):
so I think that the best way to combat that
that nonsensical frustration that some folks seem to be having
out there is connected to what these positive impacts are,
because I can tell you sure tech they don't have
a clear vision for the future of this country, and
that's that's key as well. But I'm got to make
sure we're staying out there and staying on message, because

(02:30):
they got a lot of visibility over the weekend, but
when you scratch beneath the surface, it really ain't that great.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, And I think the visibility didn't do a much
given much credibility because you know, I heard over and
over again one of the main criticisms on their pre
printed list of talking points, which didn't provide any really
fundamental explanation for why they were screaming about medicaid. For example,
you know you're going to take medicaid away for me,
they're taking Medicaid away. I mean, my retort has been

(02:56):
over and over no, look at what dough is uncovered.
One point three million and illegal immigrants got put in
the medicaid roles, and there's countless billions of dollars in
fraud in the Medicaid system which Doge is revealed. To
the extent you get rid of that illegal activity and
those fraudulent or erroneous payments, you are going a long
way to saving the program. I mean, Doge in the

(03:18):
administration is doing the exact opposite of what they're accusing
them of, which frustrates the living hell out of me
that they're so clueless that they don't realize.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
That we all pay taxes, right, we all should expect
that the tax dollars that go to Washington, DC are
hard earned. Money that goes to Washington, DC is going
to be spent well and spent efficiently. Right nobody's talking
about ending these programs. Nobody's talking about cutting these programs.
We're talking about making these programs run more efficiently so
that the population that depends on them, our neighbors and

(03:52):
friends who depend on these programs, have the ability to.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Access to them.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
We can talk about whether these programs should exist in
the first place of the time. Right now, we're just
talking about making sure these programs are run efficiently. And
I think that's something every tax paying American citizen should applaud.
Finally happening for the first time in ages in Washington DC.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, approaching government the way private businesses would approach it.
We've got too many of these departments. We've got too
much middle management. It's costing the shareholders a lot of money.
We can run a more efficient operation, provide the same,
if not better goods and services with less, and let's
allocate the money to better products and goods and services.
That is how a successful business runs. And of course

(04:32):
we all know that is not how government runs. And
this administration, at least for seeming the first time in
my lifetime, is revealing that and doing something about it.
I know you've got the big event coming up on Sunday.
You want to talk about that. We'll bring Donovan and
Neil for Americans for Prosperity back working with Restoring Liberty
dot Us seven fifty five KARCD talk station. If you're

(04:53):
having a half e Wednesday, Thomas Massey after the top
of the air news Judge and Paulatano at eight thirty
and then doctor j Russo, my good friends doing a
making America Healthy Again power you seminar tonight and you
can join it. I'm sorry tomorrow night you can join
in the fund with that. We'll learn about that coming up.
In the meantime, Donovan and Neil for Americans for Prosperity
teaming up at Restore Liberty dot Us. The rally that

(05:15):
we're having this Sunday. Where is it when the door
opens and what are we going to be talking about?
Who are we going to be hearing from? Donovan and'neil
dan Well.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
We're partnering with the great folks at Restore Liberty and
George I've been on the show talking about and I
know you know George Well, they got a one heck
of an operation there with Restore Liberty. These folks are
getting together working hard to ensure conservative liberty oriented principles
are happening in Southwest lives. So we're partner with them,
partners empower you and Americans for Prosperity to offer a
fiscal sanity rally and the lead up to that day

(05:45):
that every bureaucrat marks on the calendar and counts down
for Tax Day April fifteenth, But we're going to get
together April thirteenth. They're at the Double Tree in blue
Ashelan Kemper Road. Double Tree in Blue Ashland, East Kemper Road.
Doors open at four point thirty. We're gonna have a
dinner buffet. Program will begin at six o'clock and we'll
get together again talking about fiscal sanity, recognizing that we're

(06:10):
at a critical inflection point with this country, whether it's
you're looking at our national debt, you're looking at the
waste and abuse in our in our federal government, even
on the state local level, making sure we're remaining fiscally
sane at those levels as well. We're gonna be talking
about it all. It's gonna be a great opportunity to
get plugged into what's going on, identify some action items
that you can as a you know, as a participant,

(06:32):
take part in to make sure that from our state, local,
federal government levels, we're driving fiscal sanity up and down
the ladder. Because this is about the future of our
our country. It's about the future of our our for
our children, and that's what we're gonna be talking about
this Sunday. There's a double Tree on East Kemper Road,
doors open at four thirty.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, you know, I'm looking at the notes from Restored
Liberty dot us and in explaining what's going on on,
you left out a critical word when you were referring
to dinner buffet. It says complementary dinner buffet. You want
to get people in the doors man, you can. It's
free food and all this wonderful discussion about fiscal responsibility.

(07:15):
So I'm just trying to increase the num. Reveal who
can make it, and I'll be honest with you. George
Brunneman from Restoring Liberty dot Us did invite me, and
we're having a Palm Sunday meal at my mom's that
was already on the calendar and family comes first, So
sadly I will not be able to make it, but
I know it's going to be an extraordinary event. Any
special speaker is going to be there, beyond maybe you

(07:35):
and George and others.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, they're putting together a number of locals. I don't
think they've fully released the list yet, at least they
haven't given it to me yet, but I would say register,
you'll get updates. We're expecting a packed house, a good crowd,
a great program, and if you care about fiscal sanity,
if you want to get in a fight and help
push back against some of the craziness that you saw
over the weekend around Entry, this is the place to

(08:01):
be we're gonna be We're gonna be talking fiscal sanity,
We're gonna be talking making the Trump tax cuts permanent.
And this is the kind of stuff we need to
be doing and follow through on from the votes we
cast last November.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Well, and of course that's going to require engagement from
my listeners and getting in touch with their elected officials.
Any reaction on what's going on in d C with
the you know, the whole process with the reconciliation, and
the Senate came out with a proposal and the Republicans
are now struggling with that and maybe some holdouts. Do
you do you have any insight or thoughts about that

(08:31):
process that's going on right now, Donovan.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Well, so we've always known it was going to be
a tenuous situation, right when you bring Congress is famous
for one thing, failing to follow through on what it
says it's going to do, right, and so we knew
there's going to be a tenuous situation here. Well, I
think you know, the House is done, it's vote. Senate
it's done, it's vote. It's a long winding road to
work through this convoluted reconciliation process. Congress and Vassy can

(08:57):
give you. We'll definitely be able to give you a
better insight than I can there. But I think with
key is is everything's moving along as need and with
a number of our staff at an annual retreat and
some of our federal government affairs. For folks who lobby
on the Hill, what they've been saying is this is
actually moving along a bit faster than folks were expecting.
And so I think that's a good sign. The grassroots
pressure is key here right continuing to send the message

(09:20):
to Washington, to your elected officials, this is what we
sent you there to do, to unleash energy abundance, to
secure and front our border, and most importantly, unleash prosperity
by making permanent the Trump tax cuts, the one big
beautiful bill of Senate got done, you know, started to
have a vote procedural vote on over the weekend. Move
that ball down the line, gets that much closer to

(09:42):
President Trump's desk, And ultimately what's important is relief, much
needed relief for Americans who have experienced four years of
Bidenomics and are ready for that to end.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Well, and I'll tell you what one thing that you
hit on energy policy, If we could get some sanity
and not only restore liberty, but restore senate our energy policy.
I know Trump's embraced this all the above approach, even
talking about bringing back coal. But abundant and inexpensive energy
is really what drives growth in the economy. You know,

(10:12):
if it doesn't cost as much to run a factory,
it doesn't cost as much to you know, heat and
air conditioning your house. That frees up money which otherwise
can go to the economic engine of this country. And
we have stood in the way of energy policy for
so long under this climate change crap. And my favorite
favorite point on that is just standing in the way
of pursuing modular nuclear technology, which is, you know, it's efficient,

(10:35):
it's small footprint, it generates just infinite amounts of energy.
And there's so many of these environmental alarmists standing the
way of nuclear keeps screaming about three mile Island in
Cherniobil as if the technology is the same as it
was in the nineteen seventies. No, it's not. I mean,
we've got the answer to their concerns about carbon dioxide

(10:56):
aka tree food, and it exists now and we can
have it. It's but for all of these people standing
in the way with their regulations rules and screaming about it.
And I don't know what they're screaming about in terms
of that it's the answer to our problems.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Well, yeah, who was against cheap abundant energy, right, And
I think that modular nuclear is the right thing. And
you know in Columbus they're working on energy legislation. Here
in Ohio, we're going to have once this legislation gets
to the governor's desk. The goal here is to get
site approved within forty five days. So if you've got

(11:30):
an energy generation site you want to build in the
state of Ohio, the state of Ohio on its end
of the approval process, we'll get that done in forty
five days. The bet there is to put more pressure
on the federal government. And we've got a lot of
allies at that level now, right, But yeah, put that
pressure on the federal government to get these products, to
fix the EPA, to fix its federal permitting processes so
we can get energy generated, bring down that cost for Americans.

(11:54):
And that's a big key part of manufacturing too, right, right,
how to have abundant, affordable energy to make manufacturing makes
sense in the United states again, and so across the board,
consumers to manufacturers to business. It all matters. Energy is
at the heart of it all.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
It certainly is. And I had a conversation on the
Morning show the other day with vivig Ramaswami, and I mean,
he is on board with everything you've been talking about
this morning, So he sounds like the right man for
the job. He's all in favor of lowering taxes, in fact,
hopefully getting rid of income taxes in the state of
Ohio to level the playing field with those other states
are the biggest draws for business and industry, the ones

(12:30):
that don't have any income tax.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
It warms my heart brand to here folks this early
in the process talking about the future Ohio in such
a way right where we're going to yes, well that
the conversation isn't about how much we're going to grow
government the state of Ohio. The conversation looking at twenty
twenty six is about what are we going to cut,
what are we going to change, what are we going
to do to transform Ohio to b the economic engine
not just as the Midwest but of the country, and

(12:55):
most importantly moved from middle in the Midwest to number
one in the nation. These big, bold ideas that folks
are talking about, I think we're critical and we like it.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
At AFP.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
We like the fact that folks are talking about elimiting
the income text because that's what we think it's going
to take to really put Ohio on the map and
make folks look here to site their projects.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yes, indeed so Double Tree Blue Ash sixty three hundred
East Kemper Road. Doors open at four pm. Rally begins
at five. Complementary dinner. That's this Sunday, April thirteenth, aka
Palm Sunday Information to Restore Liberty dot us. And as
we always end, if folks want to get engaged, get
involved and stay in touch with AFP, which website you

(13:34):
want to turn them to, Donovan, Well, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Go to go to protect prosperity dot com. Protect prosperity
dot com. That's the key for all the stuff we're
working on on that national level, like we were talking
about today, Protect prosperity dot com. Until we talk again, donald'neil,
have a wonderful event on Sunday. I'll look forward to
our next conversation and keep up the great work with AFP.
Really appreciate it. Thanks Brian, take

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Care of my brother seven fIF

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