April 15, 2025 • 18 mins
Dan Carroll talks with online opinion editor, commentary writer and host of the “Bold and Blunt” podcast Cheryl Chumley of The Washington Times to discuss Trump's presidency so far.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Fifty five k r c V talk station. Dan Carroll
in for Brian Thomas. Tuesday, it's tax Day, got to
get your taxes in and good morning at TATO five.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Brian Thomas taking the week off and I am here today,
Wednesday and Thursday, and then I believe Kevin Gordon will
be filling it on Friday, so we are all looking
forward to that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
We are reaching out to our guests right now.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Cheryl Chumley is the online opinion editor and a commentary writer.
She's an also an author, a speaker, a Christian mother
and just an all round great guest and always want
my pleasure to welcome Cheryl Chumley to the show. And
Cheryl Chumley, well, welcome to Tax Day twenty twenty five.
I'm sure you're you're feeling chipper ready to write that
(00:57):
giant check to the.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Federal government, aren't we?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
All right? It's such an a merit.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Do you think we should have that the tax day
should also be election day? People talk about that every
single year, that you were always reminded of how much
money you're sending to the government on this day every year.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I think from.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, Sean McMahon, let's let's try and re establish contact
with her, because that was that was not good. So
Sean McMahon is going to make a phone call and
uh and and get back with Cheryl. Hopefully we'll get
a we'll get a better line of better contact because uh,
that that was not good.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That was not good at all.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
But as I mentioned, she is the online opinion editor
at the Washington Times. She's a Christian, a writer, and
just a fantastic person to talk to. And I think
let's see if we got a better connection this time.
And Cheryl Chumley, there you are, and we were talking
our tax day. Yeah, And I always find it interesting
this time of year. There's always those who suggest that
(02:05):
election day should always be on on this day, on
the fifteenth, so we're reminded of, you know, people that
were electing and how much money we're sent into the
government at the same time.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Well, that certainly is one way to go about it.
I actually think we should have a day of national
mourning where we're all allowed to take day off from
mark and just sort of lick our wounds and reflect.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, if college kids can take the day off because
they don't like the way an election goes certainly we
can take the day off and you know more and
all the money that we've parted with that goes to
the federal government. Let me get your opinion. I want
to get your opinion on this, the whole saga going
on over the tariffs and China and all the rest
of it, and not really all the ins and outs
(02:51):
of the tariffs. But I think one of the things
I find interesting about this is that there is such
a difference of opinion, especially not just between the right
and the left on this, but those who are on
the right those There are so many people who support
Trump that have come out with honest disagreements about his
(03:11):
approach to tariffs, the way he's rolling this out, whether
or not it's going to be successful. The opinions on
this really run the entire spectrum. And I think that
is a testament to at least the attempt at honest
debate that those of us on the right one a half.
And it's to my way of thinking, it's refreshing in
(03:34):
a way because when it comes to the left, no
matter what it is, we constantly see them circle the
wagons and protect and recite the exact same narrative, but
at least, you know, those of us on the right
can honestly and openly state our disagreements with a particular policy,
(03:54):
and then you know, at the end of the day
move on and try and do with the ultimate goal
being what's best for the country.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's honest debate based by each side, right, And
I agree with you wholeheartedly that within the Republican Party,
among the conservative community right now, there are very different
opinions with what Trump is doing with the tariffs.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
But I am personally one hundred percent in favor of.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
What he's doing because I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Not looking at my frow k, right, I'm not looking
at what's going on in Wall Street. I'm looking down
the line the future of America, both national security and
economic independence. And we need to bring back our manufacturing,
particularly in certain key areas of the economies, back to America.
(04:50):
And Donald Trump is really taking a courageous stand here
by being the.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
President who right and is pushing.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Forward for the internal disputes in his own party. Even so,
it's it's really a long term strategy that's going to
benefit America for decades.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, the national media was trying to roll out a
new narrative over the last few days. And I don't
know how much traction this one is going to get,
but they were trying to make the case that if
Donald Trump brings back all this manufacturing into the United States,
and Jonathan carl was essentially he used the term, are
(05:28):
we going to become a nation of cobblers? Because you
know these factories, you know, all they do is make
is make cell phones, and they make Nike shoes and
as if you know, these are the kind of jobs
that are beneath Americans and really don't you know, equate
to their definition of the dignity of work, and that
(05:48):
Donald Trump wants to belittle American people by having, you know,
these types of factory jobs available for the American people.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I don't know if they're going to get much traction
on that, on.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That narrative, but they certainly we were trying that out
over the last couple of days.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's a desperate play, right to doing this administration. You know,
when you said that about a nation of cobblers, the
first thing.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's sprung to my mind was so what so what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Work is work? Really?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
And if you are an American with impact in your mind,
you don't mind putting in the time in all kinds
of jobs. When I'm on my point here, look at
the jobs I held.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I've worked in factories, on assembly lines, I've worked in
dry cleaners.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I've worked some of the crap jobs out there.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But that's part of being an American and learning the
value of hard work.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
And then when you.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Do that, you realize your success and it means more. Right,
we're raising a generation of youth in America to look
at work as if it's something dirty, if it's something
to be avoided. But that's not how it's supposed to
be as part of the human experience. Right, You're supposed
to work hard, and then when you achieve success, it
(07:10):
means something. So bringing back manufacturing to America, first off,
it's good for the country, but those are decent, high
paying jobs. And with the also comes the sort of
skilled craftsmanship that we used to have in America instead
of just cookie cutter, low paying wage. You know, people
(07:32):
who construction, people who throw stuff up. We have people
who actually look at those trades with value and they
develop a craftsmanship with it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
That's all good for America.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, it's all good. And when you look at it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
There's so there's so many moving parts on this, and
I think of a juggler, you know, And I've seen
these jugglers at circuses and they've got, you know, three balls,
and then ten balls and then fifteen balls, all one
at the same time. And when I look at this situation,
I sort of see that that's the situation right now.
Trump hasn't even been in office three months yet, and
(08:07):
you've got all these moving parts that are going on,
and Trump has set all these different things in motion,
and things look like they're going one hundred different directions.
But yet when you listen to the national media, they
are of the opinion that none of this is working
because we don't have any results yet. And when you
talk about a giant ship that needs to be turned around,
(08:29):
you don't get a more giant ship than the United
States economy. And turning that around is going to take,
I would suggest, a lot longer than three months. And
it is beyond ridiculous to sit there and try to
convince people that we should be seeing bottom line results
in such a short span of time.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, Trump, Sis, the brilliant strategy right is working as
the puppet mass pulling a straight air sur there. Right,
then you've got time MAGA types in the meat just
playing a whack a mole game of trying to gain
hid every which way they can.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And you have those in America who.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Are worried about their own financial their own financial soundness,
which very valid, right, but they also have to understand
that the media is purposely hyping the hysteria over what
Donald Trump is doing and purposely ignoring the long term
gains that his strategy will bring for political reasons, simply
(09:36):
to destroy this administration, destroy Maga, and to go back
to a time in America where it was a Chinese
system of communist capitalism that was being steamrolled at the
bequest of the World Economic Form threw the White House
into America's economy. So there's a faction in America that
is purposely trying to use Donald Trump's strategy against him.
(10:00):
I think most Americans, though, are on the side of
what Donald Trump is doing because they see the sense.
They see the sense of bringing back prescriptions right manufacturing
to America and what he's doing with chips one of
the greatest things that I've seen come out of the
White House in years. We need to bring back chips
assembly and manufacturing to America. That is definitely a national
(10:22):
security issue.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, chips, rare earth minerals, pharmaceuticals, all the rest of it.
We cannot be beholden to these companies and subject to
the whims or supply chain issues. And you know there's
a China said the other day that it's going to
put a pause or temporarily stop shipping rare earth minerals
not only to the United States, but to other countries
(10:44):
around the world. And we just can't let ourselves fall
victim to that sort of whim in the future. Chayl Tomley,
stay right there. We've got to get a quick break
in here, and we will be back with you momentarily.
So let's go ahead and do that, and we will
continue on pitch K the Talk station.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Fifty five KRC, the talk station. Are you looking for
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Speaker 1 (11:06):
For eight nineteen on this Tuesday morning, Dan Carroll for
Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation with Cheryl Chumley, the online
opinion editor of The Washington Times. And Cheryl Chumley, did
you happen to see the meeting in the Joval office
yesterday with the President of Al Salvador and Donald Trump
(11:27):
is there.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, he's got all the media in there.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
He's fielding questions and you know they're talking about this
dude that got deported and all the rest of it,
and Caitlin Collins is, you know, trying to pin down Trump.
And I just thought it was great because you've got
Marco Rubio in there, You've got Pambody in there, You've
got Steven Miller in there, and Jay Evans was there,
and Donald Trump is not afraid to toss it out
(11:52):
to someone who may have more expertise than him to
handle these different questions. And I thought the way Marco
Rubio laid it out was just fantastic. And if you
look at Marco Rubio, I think that guy's just been
doing a great job.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
So far, hasn't he though. Okay, so first off, I
didn't see it, but.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I've read the headline and I've read a little bit
about it.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
But Marco Rubio is, without a doubt, one of the
strongest members of Donald Trump's administration. And I just think
back when he and Donald Trump are going at it
on the campaign trail. It's just it really speaks so
highly of both Donald Trump and Marco Rubio and many
in the Republican Party itself who are able to push
(12:34):
aside petty politics to come together for the greater good
of America first. And it's just it's amazing to see
Marco Rubio defend this nation. He's strong, he's dead on
with his communication, his bullet points, he's unafraid, and honestly,
he's emerging as presidential material himself.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
He wrote an op ed for the for Fox that
I read yesterday on the air, and it was it
was just it's so plain spoken, it's so brilliant, it's
so easy to understand, and that there's no equivocating whats
so on or whatsoever. And he's essentially saying, look, these
are the policies of the United States, these are the
policies of this president, and that is and these are
(13:16):
the policies that we're going to follow. That's the bottom line,
no ifs ands or butts. And I mean, he really
is acquitting himself quite well and making the trumpet really
I think making you know, it's like when Reagan was president.
Reagan always talked about how it was important to surround
yourself with people who are smarter than you in different
(13:37):
areas because you can't be an expert on everything. And
I think Trump, once he finally got that message, has
really put a lot of good people around himself.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
This time around.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
He has and sticking with Marco Rubio for a second,
you know, when he first emerged in politics and he
made his presidential run and he was trying to move
up the political ladder, he struck many times to me
watching him as a little bit angry and sometimes even petty,
a little bit uncontrolled with his emotions, too ready to
(14:10):
get in the fray, to get in the dirt and
so forth. And now it just seems like every time
I hear him, see him, listen to his words, he
seems very statesmanlike and it's just it is refreshing. It's
not just Marco Rubio. Donald Trump has really picked some
great people to surround himself with this time. And I
(14:30):
think this is why he's having such great success, because
the opposition sure hasn't turned down, right, The opposition is
still as present and as vigorous as it was from
his first administration.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I saw the other day a side by side video
of Janet Yellen and then you know, talking about uh,
you know, economic Treasury policy. And then I saw, you know,
the other side was Scott the scent you talk about
night and day. It's it could it couldn't have been
any more different. I don't have you seen the video
that Bill Maher put out after his dinner with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And Kid Rock. I took not the whole thing, Yeah,
but it's it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
And I'm you know, I'm going to give props to
Bill Maher for coming out and talking honestly about what
he saw at the White House and and what his
interaction with Donald Trump is like. And I find it
interesting that a couple of days after, you know, he know,
he talked about his revelations and his his time his
conversations with Donald Trump, that he's being criticized from those
(15:31):
on the left who are calling him a sellout or
a useful idiot for Trump and a propagandas for Trump,
because he's giving his honest assessment of what his time
in the White House with Trump is.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And I think this is, you know, even.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
More of a reveal of what the left is really
like when it comes to people being honest and trying
to have an honest you know, they're always the ones
to talk about we have to have an honest discussion
or an honest conversation about these sorts of things. But
when you try to do that, they're the ones that
always do everything they can to shut it down.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Yes, and I do agree that he does get, you know,
kudos for him for meeting with Trump in the White
House and then coming out and reporting accurately, even though
it put his own prior views in a bad light
on what he experienced at the White House. But on
the other hand, I'm kind of you know, I look
at him and I think, well, where were you all this?
(16:25):
You know, Trump hasn't exactly changed. What happened is that
he was willing, right that Bill Maher himself was willing
to give the guy a chance and to move past
his own internal biases and step outside his own troll
like bubble that has become the Democrat Party, a bunch
of marching Marxists all beating the same drum. Right, he
(16:47):
was willing finally to give this president a chance. But
had he been willing to do that in you know,
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, then he may have been
seeing a different tune back then as well. So it's
sort of like, yay, you know, good for you, but
where have you been?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Good point.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So Cheryl Chumley will let you go. But before we
do that, are you feeling are you feeling better? Are
you feeling more empowered as a woman today? Now that
Katie Perry and Gail King and Jeff Bezos' girlfriend took
their trip up into space, and you know, with the
historic flight of six women up in the space capsule,
I'm actually feeling.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
A little bit jealous. I wish I could have been
on that place. I don't know about empowered, more jealous.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Cherald Chumley, always great having you on.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I always appreciate it, and best of best of luck
with all the books and all the other things you
have going on. And until the next time we have
a chance to talk again, I'll really look forward to it.
But Cheryl Chumley, thank you as always.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
All right, thank you, Happy Easter.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
All right, I have you.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Thank you very much, Cheryl Chumley of the Washington Times
on fifty five KRC, the talk station fifty five KRC
Fifty five k r c V talk station. Dan Carroll
in for Brian Thomas. Tuesday, it's tax Day, got to
get your taxes in and good morning at TATO five.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Brian Thomas taking the week off and I am here today,
Wednesday and Thursday, and then I believe Kevin Gordon will
be filling it on Friday, so we are all looking
forward to that.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
We are reaching out to our guests right now.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Cheryl Chumley is the online opinion editor and a commentary writer.
She's an also an author, a speaker, a Christian mother
and just an all round great guest and always want
my pleasure to welcome Cheryl Chumley to the show. And
Cheryl Chumley, well, welcome to Tax Day twenty twenty five.
I'm sure you're you're feeling chipper ready to write that
(00:57):
giant check to the.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Federal government, aren't we?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
All right? It's such an a merit.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Do you think we should have that the tax day
should also be election day? People talk about that every
single year, that you were always reminded of how much
money you're sending to the government on this day every year.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I think from.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, Sean McMahon, let's let's try and re establish contact
with her, because that was that was not good. So
Sean McMahon is going to make a phone call and
uh and and get back with Cheryl. Hopefully we'll get
a we'll get a better line of better contact because uh,
that that was not good.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That was not good at all.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
But as I mentioned, she is the online opinion editor
at the Washington Times. She's a Christian, a writer, and
just a fantastic person to talk to. And I think
let's see if we got a better connection this time.
And Cheryl Chumley, there you are, and we were talking
our tax day. Yeah, And I always find it interesting
this time of year. There's always those who suggest that
(02:05):
election day should always be on on this day, on
the fifteenth, so we're reminded of, you know, people that
were electing and how much money we're sent into the
government at the same time.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Well, that certainly is one way to go about it.
I actually think we should have a day of national
mourning where we're all allowed to take day off from
mark and just sort of lick our wounds and reflect.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, if college kids can take the day off because
they don't like the way an election goes certainly we
can take the day off and you know more and
all the money that we've parted with that goes to
the federal government. Let me get your opinion. I want
to get your opinion on this, the whole saga going
on over the tariffs and China and all the rest
of it, and not really all the ins and outs
(02:51):
of the tariffs. But I think one of the things
I find interesting about this is that there is such
a difference of opinion, especially not just between the right
and the left on this, but those who are on
the right those There are so many people who support
Trump that have come out with honest disagreements about his
(03:11):
approach to tariffs, the way he's rolling this out, whether
or not it's going to be successful. The opinions on
this really run the entire spectrum. And I think that
is a testament to at least the attempt at honest
debate that those of us on the right one a half.
And it's to my way of thinking, it's refreshing in
(03:34):
a way because when it comes to the left, no
matter what it is, we constantly see them circle the
wagons and protect and recite the exact same narrative, but
at least, you know, those of us on the right
can honestly and openly state our disagreements with a particular policy,
(03:54):
and then you know, at the end of the day
move on and try and do with the ultimate goal
being what's best for the country.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's honest debate based by each side, right, And
I agree with you wholeheartedly that within the Republican Party,
among the conservative community right now, there are very different
opinions with what Trump is doing with the tariffs.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
But I am personally one hundred percent in favor of.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
What he's doing because I'm.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Not looking at my frow k, right, I'm not looking
at what's going on in Wall Street. I'm looking down
the line the future of America, both national security and
economic independence. And we need to bring back our manufacturing,
particularly in certain key areas of the economies, back to America.
(04:50):
And Donald Trump is really taking a courageous stand here
by being the.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
President who right and is pushing.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Forward for the internal disputes in his own party. Even so,
it's it's really a long term strategy that's going to
benefit America for decades.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, the national media was trying to roll out a
new narrative over the last few days. And I don't
know how much traction this one is going to get,
but they were trying to make the case that if
Donald Trump brings back all this manufacturing into the United States,
and Jonathan carl was essentially he used the term, are
(05:28):
we going to become a nation of cobblers? Because you
know these factories, you know, all they do is make
is make cell phones, and they make Nike shoes and
as if you know, these are the kind of jobs
that are beneath Americans and really don't you know, equate
to their definition of the dignity of work, and that
(05:48):
Donald Trump wants to belittle American people by having, you know,
these types of factory jobs available for the American people.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I don't know if they're going to get much traction
on that, on.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That narrative, but they certainly we were trying that out
over the last couple of days.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's a desperate play, right to doing this administration. You know,
when you said that about a nation of cobblers, the
first thing.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
That's sprung to my mind was so what so what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Work is work? Really?
Speaker 5 (06:21):
And if you are an American with impact in your mind,
you don't mind putting in the time in all kinds
of jobs. When I'm on my point here, look at
the jobs I held.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I've worked in factories, on assembly lines, I've worked in
dry cleaners.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I've worked some of the crap jobs out there.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
But that's part of being an American and learning the
value of hard work.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
And then when you.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Do that, you realize your success and it means more. Right,
we're raising a generation of youth in America to look
at work as if it's something dirty, if it's something
to be avoided. But that's not how it's supposed to
be as part of the human experience. Right, You're supposed
to work hard, and then when you achieve success, it
(07:10):
means something. So bringing back manufacturing to America, first off,
it's good for the country, but those are decent, high
paying jobs. And with the also comes the sort of
skilled craftsmanship that we used to have in America instead
of just cookie cutter, low paying wage. You know, people
(07:32):
who construction, people who throw stuff up. We have people
who actually look at those trades with value and they
develop a craftsmanship with it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
That's all good for America.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, it's all good. And when you look at it.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
There's so there's so many moving parts on this, and
I think of a juggler, you know, And I've seen
these jugglers at circuses and they've got, you know, three balls,
and then ten balls and then fifteen balls, all one
at the same time. And when I look at this situation,
I sort of see that that's the situation right now.
Trump hasn't even been in office three months yet, and
(08:07):
you've got all these moving parts that are going on,
and Trump has set all these different things in motion,
and things look like they're going one hundred different directions.
But yet when you listen to the national media, they
are of the opinion that none of this is working
because we don't have any results yet. And when you
talk about a giant ship that needs to be turned around,
(08:29):
you don't get a more giant ship than the United
States economy. And turning that around is going to take,
I would suggest, a lot longer than three months. And
it is beyond ridiculous to sit there and try to
convince people that we should be seeing bottom line results
in such a short span of time.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, Trump, Sis, the brilliant strategy right is working as
the puppet mass pulling a straight air sur there. Right,
then you've got time MAGA types in the meat just
playing a whack a mole game of trying to gain
hid every which way they can.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And you have those in America who.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Are worried about their own financial their own financial soundness,
which very valid, right, but they also have to understand
that the media is purposely hyping the hysteria over what
Donald Trump is doing and purposely ignoring the long term
gains that his strategy will bring for political reasons, simply
(09:36):
to destroy this administration, destroy Maga, and to go back
to a time in America where it was a Chinese
system of communist capitalism that was being steamrolled at the
bequest of the World Economic Form threw the White House
into America's economy. So there's a faction in America that
is purposely trying to use Donald Trump's strategy against him.
(10:00):
I think most Americans, though, are on the side of
what Donald Trump is doing because they see the sense.
They see the sense of bringing back prescriptions right manufacturing
to America and what he's doing with chips one of
the greatest things that I've seen come out of the
White House in years. We need to bring back chips
assembly and manufacturing to America. That is definitely a national
(10:22):
security issue.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, chips, rare earth minerals, pharmaceuticals, all the rest of it.
We cannot be beholden to these companies and subject to
the whims or supply chain issues. And you know there's
a China said the other day that it's going to
put a pause or temporarily stop shipping rare earth minerals
not only to the United States, but to other countries
(10:44):
around the world. And we just can't let ourselves fall
victim to that sort of whim in the future. Chayl Tomley,
stay right there. We've got to get a quick break
in here, and we will be back with you momentarily.
So let's go ahead and do that, and we will
continue on pitch K the Talk station.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Fifty five KRC, the talk station. Are you looking for
a peaceful place?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
For eight nineteen on this Tuesday morning, Dan Carroll for
Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation with Cheryl Chumley, the online
opinion editor of The Washington Times. And Cheryl Chumley, did
you happen to see the meeting in the Joval office
yesterday with the President of Al Salvador and Donald Trump
(11:27):
is there.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, he's got all the media in there.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
He's fielding questions and you know they're talking about this
dude that got deported and all the rest of it,
and Caitlin Collins is, you know, trying to pin down Trump.
And I just thought it was great because you've got
Marco Rubio in there, You've got Pambody in there, You've
got Steven Miller in there, and Jay Evans was there,
and Donald Trump is not afraid to toss it out
(11:52):
to someone who may have more expertise than him to
handle these different questions. And I thought the way Marco
Rubio laid it out was just fantastic. And if you
look at Marco Rubio, I think that guy's just been
doing a great job.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
So far, hasn't he though. Okay, so first off, I
didn't see it, but.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I've read the headline and I've read a little bit
about it.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
But Marco Rubio is, without a doubt, one of the
strongest members of Donald Trump's administration. And I just think
back when he and Donald Trump are going at it
on the campaign trail. It's just it really speaks so
highly of both Donald Trump and Marco Rubio and many
in the Republican Party itself who are able to push
(12:34):
aside petty politics to come together for the greater good
of America first. And it's just it's amazing to see
Marco Rubio defend this nation. He's strong, he's dead on
with his communication, his bullet points, he's unafraid, and honestly,
he's emerging as presidential material himself.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
He wrote an op ed for the for Fox that
I read yesterday on the air, and it was it
was just it's so plain spoken, it's so brilliant, it's
so easy to understand, and that there's no equivocating whats
so on or whatsoever. And he's essentially saying, look, these
are the policies of the United States, these are the
policies of this president, and that is and these are
(13:16):
the policies that we're going to follow. That's the bottom line,
no ifs ands or butts. And I mean, he really
is acquitting himself quite well and making the trumpet really
I think making you know, it's like when Reagan was president.
Reagan always talked about how it was important to surround
yourself with people who are smarter than you in different
(13:37):
areas because you can't be an expert on everything. And
I think Trump, once he finally got that message, has
really put a lot of good people around himself.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
This time around.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
He has and sticking with Marco Rubio for a second,
you know, when he first emerged in politics and he
made his presidential run and he was trying to move
up the political ladder, he struck many times to me
watching him as a little bit angry and sometimes even petty,
a little bit uncontrolled with his emotions, too ready to
(14:10):
get in the fray, to get in the dirt and
so forth. And now it just seems like every time
I hear him, see him, listen to his words, he
seems very statesmanlike and it's just it is refreshing. It's
not just Marco Rubio. Donald Trump has really picked some
great people to surround himself with this time. And I
(14:30):
think this is why he's having such great success, because
the opposition sure hasn't turned down, right, The opposition is
still as present and as vigorous as it was from
his first administration.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I saw the other day a side by side video
of Janet Yellen and then you know, talking about uh,
you know, economic Treasury policy. And then I saw, you know,
the other side was Scott the scent you talk about
night and day. It's it could it couldn't have been
any more different. I don't have you seen the video
that Bill Maher put out after his dinner with Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
And Kid Rock. I took not the whole thing, Yeah,
but it's it's it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
And I'm you know, I'm going to give props to
Bill Maher for coming out and talking honestly about what
he saw at the White House and and what his
interaction with Donald Trump is like. And I find it
interesting that a couple of days after, you know, he know,
he talked about his revelations and his his time his
conversations with Donald Trump, that he's being criticized from those
(15:31):
on the left who are calling him a sellout or
a useful idiot for Trump and a propagandas for Trump,
because he's giving his honest assessment of what his time
in the White House with Trump is.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And I think this is, you know, even.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
More of a reveal of what the left is really
like when it comes to people being honest and trying
to have an honest you know, they're always the ones
to talk about we have to have an honest discussion
or an honest conversation about these sorts of things. But
when you try to do that, they're the ones that
always do everything they can to shut it down.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Yes, and I do agree that he does get, you know,
kudos for him for meeting with Trump in the White
House and then coming out and reporting accurately, even though
it put his own prior views in a bad light
on what he experienced at the White House. But on
the other hand, I'm kind of you know, I look
at him and I think, well, where were you all this?
(16:25):
You know, Trump hasn't exactly changed. What happened is that
he was willing, right that Bill Maher himself was willing
to give the guy a chance and to move past
his own internal biases and step outside his own troll
like bubble that has become the Democrat Party, a bunch
of marching Marxists all beating the same drum. Right, he
(16:47):
was willing finally to give this president a chance. But
had he been willing to do that in you know,
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, then he may have been
seeing a different tune back then as well. So it's
sort of like, yay, you know, good for you, but
where have you been?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Good point.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So Cheryl Chumley will let you go. But before we
do that, are you feeling are you feeling better? Are
you feeling more empowered as a woman today? Now that
Katie Perry and Gail King and Jeff Bezos' girlfriend took
their trip up into space, and you know, with the
historic flight of six women up in the space capsule,
I'm actually feeling.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
A little bit jealous. I wish I could have been
on that place. I don't know about empowered, more jealous.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Cherald Chumley, always great having you on.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I always appreciate it, and best of best of luck
with all the books and all the other things you
have going on. And until the next time we have
a chance to talk again, I'll really look forward to it.
But Cheryl Chumley, thank you as always.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
All right, thank you, Happy Easter.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
All right, I have you.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Thank you very much, Cheryl Chumley of the Washington Times
on fifty five KRC, the talk station fifty five KRC
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