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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ay forty Here fifty five KRCD talk station. Very Happy
Monday to you. Extra special Monday. We get the insights
good from Breitbart News every Tuesday at eight oh five. Today,
get a little insight into what is life like within
China's borders. It's an empower youth seminar that'll be done
by my next guest, Francis Martel, Breitbart's international editor and
she's been with Bright Bart since twenty thirteen. I always
(00:23):
recommend when I talk about Breitbart b R E I
T B A r T, Breitbart dot com book market,
you'll be glad you did because you get to read
about what Francis Martel is writing. Francis, welcome back to
the fifty five KRC Morning Show. It's great to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Not all is rosy in China. I get the impression.
I mean, we get this. I mean I worry about China. Obviously,
they you know, cracked into all our computer systems. They've
you know, interrupted it. They've got you know, chips that
are have nefarious built in components to them. They're building
up their military in a very rapid pace. They always
are threatening to take over Taiwan. I mean, it just
(01:02):
seems like they're on a role, and yet it's not
that rosy in China. I understand. Tell my listeners a
little bit about what you're gonna be talking about tomorrow
night at seven pm.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Absolutely, so you know, it doesn't feel like they're on
a role. When you look at just the general sentiment,
especially around young Chinese millennials and gen z, they are
very despondent about the future of the country. One of
the terms that they've been using on social media is
the phrase garbage time of history, which is garbage time
(01:34):
is a basketball term. It just means the end of
the basketball game where it's obvious one team is going
to win and nothing matters. They see the current time
period as that. But it's obvious America is going to
win and there's no point to the competition. So that's
the attitude from young Chinese, and a lot of that
is unemployment. A lot of that is the feeling that
(01:54):
they will never be able to own a house, that
they won't have the money to get married or have kids.
The nine nine six culture, which is the nine nine
sixes a jack Ma term from Ali Baba, and it
basically needs nine am to nine pm, six days a week.
The idea that you're you don't have a life outside
of work. That attitude has really crushed the idea that
(02:16):
you can start a family in China. And so there's
all this frustration and kind of despondence from from normal
Chinese people, especially to Chinese youth. A lot of them
have moved back in with their parents. They're young Chinese
people pretending to have a job online just so that
their relatives don't bother them. But it's fake. You know.
They take a picture out a desk and they pretend
they're at work and they're unemployed. So it's not it's
(02:40):
not a great sentiment over there. And I think with
the with the incoming tariffs and all of that, you
know a lot of people here are feeling that, you know,
we're going to be affected so badly. And the attitude
of the Chinese government is that, you know, they're they've
survived three thousand years, their culture is so old, we'll
get through the tariffs. But the sentiment among young Chinese
(03:01):
is that you know, they've already lost.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know, I I sound it sounds to me like
you can draw quite a few parallels to what's happened
with young people here in the United States.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Francis absolutely to an extreme extent, because at least we
can complain about it, right. Everyone knows, Everyone knows how
millennials feel about home ownership and health insurance and building
families and all that, because we're on you know, Instagram,
complaining all the time on Twitter. You can't do that
in China. If you say the wrong thing on Wevo,
(03:33):
you're getting banned. Your social credit score goes down, and
if it goes down too low, you can't even take
a train. So they are also silent, and that repression
adds to the general feeling of hopelessness that that doesn't really.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Serve the government well, and that seems to be a
natural human reaction. If everything you say is scrutinized by
your lords and masters within the Chinese Communist Party and
you do have a social credit score, that concept in
and of itself has got to be disheartening, and I
would imagine induces perhaps some rebellion or anger within the
(04:08):
Chinese people.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Absolutely, and we saw a lot of that in twenty
twenty two, in late twenty twenty two, where we saw
these protests, and that was partly because of the COVID lockdowns,
where you know, we had it pretty bad here in
twenty twenty. We had some lockdowns in the Northeast and
you know, in the Blue States, but in China it
was you know, they were welding, people shot in their homes.
(04:31):
They the police did not let you out. If you
didn't have food, you just starved in parts of China
in your house. So it was very, very repressive, and
that triggered a wave of protests, and the most impressive
ones to me were the white paper protests, where young
Chinese people would go out and they would hold up
protest signs, but they were completely blank because they knew
(04:51):
if they said anything, it doesn't matter what was on
the sign, they would be arrested for it. So they
were daring police to arrest them for holding up a
blank protest sign, and the police did arrest them. A
lot of those people were disappeared into the justice system.
We don't know what happened to them. There was a
young Chinese, I think a college student who was arrested
for reciting Shakespeare. How I compare these to a summer's day,
(05:13):
which is inherently a political but you know, if you're
celebrating Western literature in China, that's already an active rebellion.
So there was a lot of that and that was
crushed very violently. And so we haven't seen a massive
wave of protests like that. But just last week in
Changdu someone posted a huge banner across the bridge that said,
(05:36):
you know, democracy is the only answer. So people are
still protesting. People are still very actively protesting. It's just
heavily repressed and a lot of the bravest people have
already been shepherded into prisons. So you know that leadership
vacuum is going to hurt a protest movement.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So because of the you know, everything's electronic social media,
of course, if you communicate on it, you're going to
be tracked and monitored. There's going to be a permanent
record of it. The Chinese Communist Party is looking at
everything that you're doing this. I'm reminded you of Tine
n Square because I remember that, like it was yesterday.
There was this sort of hupe built up that that
was going to lead them to some freedom and some democracy.
(06:15):
Obviously it was crushed, but that was pre social media.
That was an organic, organized thing and is there a
potential for that type of thing to crop up again.
But I mean, you know, an underground movement like people
actually you know, communicating just by voice as opposed to electronically,
that they can foment some sort of wider rebellion against
(06:37):
this repression.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think that is happening to a certain extent. But
from a religious perspective, I think the Christian underground in
China's massive of people who go to house churches because
in China Christianity is legal. There are two Christian churches
that are legal, the Chinese Catholic Church, which is severed
from the Vatican, and then the three Self Patriotic Church,
which is basically common Party Protestantism. And if you go
(07:02):
into those churches, they don't even talk about Jesus. So
the actual Christians don't go to those churches. They pray
at home, which is illegal, and a lot of those
people have had their home fulldoz have been again disappeared
into the justicism. But that Christian underground that is very
you know, whispered. The meetings are quiet, they pray together
(07:22):
in silence. That has been growing significantly. There are estimates
that there are as many as one hundred million Christians
in China, So I think that is definitely a big
part of it. The protest movement that was the secular
anti lockdown movement that still exists, but that has been
crushed by hopelessness. And there's this also, this trends among
(07:42):
millennials and gen z called lying flat, which essentially means,
you know, don't have any career ambitions, don't get married,
don't have kids, do nothing because anything you do serves
the party. And that that definitely hurts the protest attitude, right.
That feeds in to this idea that there's no hope
in doing anything. America is going to win the Cold War,
(08:04):
and there's no point in trying to fix our government.
So that's that's a big hurdle to getting people into
an active organization to protest and try to get changed.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But I'm reminded of Atlas Shrug. You know, if you
just don't participate and refuse to, you know, provide your
labor and your brilliance to the Chinese Communist Party and
people just sort of quit. If that movement were to
get large enough, that kind of a profound impact.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yes, and it has, you know, if you look at
the population trends in China, the birth rate is collapsing. Yeah,
no one wants to have kids. And not only does
does no.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
One want to have kids, There aren't enough women of
child bearing age because of the one child's pod. It's
thirty five million more men than women. So even if
they wanted to, they can't. But they don't want to.
And so a generation from now, that workforce is going
to look very weak unless they start mass you know,
importing migrants, and China is not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So that is going to have a tremendous negative effect
on the economy. And the economy is basically the only
thing holding up the party right now.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Wow. And part of this makes me think of the
Malethusians and the globalists of the world. Who thinks the
world's population is too big anyway, So this is all
playing into it. You know, Japan's shrinking rapidly every day,
China's population isn't replacing itself, and the same thing here
in the United States and in Europe. It's almost like, ultimately,
you know, we're leading ourselves down the path of well
(09:31):
not keeping the population up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, and I think you know, we're in a better
position and I think a country, for example, like South Korea,
which has the world's lowest birth rate, because we are
spiritually open, because you can have a religion in these countries,
I think that fuels the desire to start families, especially
larger families. In China, the trend that you have is
(09:56):
that basically the only people who want to have families
are the weaker mond in East Turkistan, and they are
undergoing genocide. Chinese communists are going village by village sterilizing
the entire female population of leaguer villages, so the only
people that want to have kids are being sterilized. And
then the Han population, which is despondence after seventy years
(10:18):
of communism, seventy five years, they don't want kids, and
you know, if they have because this communist government is
also Han supremacists, the ethnic con group, which is the
majority population of China, it doesn't really serve them that there's.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Also a trend of Chinese men looking for Indian or Pakistani.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Wives because that doesn't really firm the idea of their
supremacy right. So it is a huge problem. They've been
trying to pressure women into having babies. The Communist Party
now called women and ask them about their cycles and
ask them if they plant and have families, which is
incredibly intrusive and having the opposite effect of what they
(10:58):
want picking in. And it's going to be interesting to
see how.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
They deal with this fascinating conversation, fascinating topic. Francis Martel
international leedit at Breitbart, should be speaking tomorrow night, beginning
at seven pm. It's log in from the comfort of
your own home only, register to a ten virtually go
to empower Youamerica dot org and Joe, we'll also add
a line fifty five Caarosee dot com that for that link.
It's been fascinating talk with you, Francis. As always, I
(11:25):
know my listener is going to enjoy the seminar tomorrow night,
and I look forward to talking with you again real soon.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Thank you so much for having me on my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's eight fifty two right now, folks with five Carrisee
the talk station. Gay to Heaven Cemetery located right there
in Montgomery. It's gorgeous there at Gay to Heaven. It's
a nice place to reflect, engage in some prayer. We'll
do the walks around their gorgeous gorgeous grounds there with
a seasonal flowers. Springtime is a perfect time to do
a stroll through Gay to Heaven and exhale, relax, enjoy
the cemetery's quiet, reverence surroundings. That's what it's all about
(11:57):
and make want to reflect on the passage of the Pope.
If you're cast, good place to go. But it's a
good place for everybody, and it is open for everyone
to enjoy. Gate of Heaven administering to the tri State
for more than seventy seven years, honoring life on sacred ground.
To learn more good at Gateoveheaven dot org. That's gateof
Heeaven dot org. Fifty five car the talk station
Ay forty Here fifty five KRCD talk station. Very Happy
Monday to you. Extra special Monday. We get the insights
good from Breitbart News every Tuesday at eight oh five. Today,
get a little insight into what is life like within
China's borders. It's an empower youth seminar that'll be done
by my next guest, Francis Martel, Breitbart's international editor and
she's been with Bright Bart since twenty thirteen. I always
(00:23):
recommend when I talk about Breitbart b R E I
T B A r T, Breitbart dot com book market,
you'll be glad you did because you get to read
about what Francis Martel is writing. Francis, welcome back to
the fifty five KRC Morning Show. It's great to have
you on.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Not all is rosy in China. I get the impression.
I mean, we get this. I mean I worry about China. Obviously,
they you know, cracked into all our computer systems. They've
you know, interrupted it. They've got you know, chips that
are have nefarious built in components to them. They're building
up their military in a very rapid pace. They always
are threatening to take over Taiwan. I mean, it just
(01:02):
seems like they're on a role, and yet it's not
that rosy in China. I understand. Tell my listeners a
little bit about what you're gonna be talking about tomorrow
night at seven pm.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Absolutely, so you know, it doesn't feel like they're on
a role. When you look at just the general sentiment,
especially around young Chinese millennials and gen z, they are
very despondent about the future of the country. One of
the terms that they've been using on social media is
the phrase garbage time of history, which is garbage time
(01:34):
is a basketball term. It just means the end of
the basketball game where it's obvious one team is going
to win and nothing matters. They see the current time
period as that. But it's obvious America is going to
win and there's no point to the competition. So that's
the attitude from young Chinese, and a lot of that
is unemployment. A lot of that is the feeling that
(01:54):
they will never be able to own a house, that
they won't have the money to get married or have kids.
The nine nine six culture, which is the nine nine
sixes a jack Ma term from Ali Baba, and it
basically needs nine am to nine pm, six days a week.
The idea that you're you don't have a life outside
of work. That attitude has really crushed the idea that
(02:16):
you can start a family in China. And so there's
all this frustration and kind of despondence from from normal
Chinese people, especially to Chinese youth. A lot of them
have moved back in with their parents. They're young Chinese
people pretending to have a job online just so that
their relatives don't bother them. But it's fake. You know.
They take a picture out a desk and they pretend
they're at work and they're unemployed. So it's not it's
(02:40):
not a great sentiment over there. And I think with
the with the incoming tariffs and all of that, you
know a lot of people here are feeling that, you know,
we're going to be affected so badly. And the attitude
of the Chinese government is that, you know, they're they've
survived three thousand years, their culture is so old, we'll
get through the tariffs. But the sentiment among young Chinese
(03:01):
is that you know, they've already lost.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know, I I sound it sounds to me like
you can draw quite a few parallels to what's happened
with young people here in the United States.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Francis absolutely to an extreme extent, because at least we
can complain about it, right. Everyone knows, Everyone knows how
millennials feel about home ownership and health insurance and building
families and all that, because we're on you know, Instagram,
complaining all the time on Twitter. You can't do that
in China. If you say the wrong thing on Wevo,
(03:33):
you're getting banned. Your social credit score goes down, and
if it goes down too low, you can't even take
a train. So they are also silent, and that repression
adds to the general feeling of hopelessness that that doesn't really.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Serve the government well, and that seems to be a
natural human reaction. If everything you say is scrutinized by
your lords and masters within the Chinese Communist Party and
you do have a social credit score, that concept in
and of itself has got to be disheartening, and I
would imagine induces perhaps some rebellion or anger within the
(04:08):
Chinese people.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Absolutely, and we saw a lot of that in twenty
twenty two, in late twenty twenty two, where we saw
these protests, and that was partly because of the COVID lockdowns,
where you know, we had it pretty bad here in
twenty twenty. We had some lockdowns in the Northeast and
you know, in the Blue States, but in China it
was you know, they were welding, people shot in their homes.
(04:31):
They the police did not let you out. If you
didn't have food, you just starved in parts of China
in your house. So it was very, very repressive, and
that triggered a wave of protests, and the most impressive
ones to me were the white paper protests, where young
Chinese people would go out and they would hold up
protest signs, but they were completely blank because they knew
(04:51):
if they said anything, it doesn't matter what was on
the sign, they would be arrested for it. So they
were daring police to arrest them for holding up a
blank protest sign, and the police did arrest them. A
lot of those people were disappeared into the justice system.
We don't know what happened to them. There was a
young Chinese, I think a college student who was arrested
for reciting Shakespeare. How I compare these to a summer's day,
(05:13):
which is inherently a political but you know, if you're
celebrating Western literature in China, that's already an active rebellion.
So there was a lot of that and that was
crushed very violently. And so we haven't seen a massive
wave of protests like that. But just last week in
Changdu someone posted a huge banner across the bridge that said,
(05:36):
you know, democracy is the only answer. So people are
still protesting. People are still very actively protesting. It's just
heavily repressed and a lot of the bravest people have
already been shepherded into prisons. So you know that leadership
vacuum is going to hurt a protest movement.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
So because of the you know, everything's electronic social media,
of course, if you communicate on it, you're going to
be tracked and monitored. There's going to be a permanent
record of it. The Chinese Communist Party is looking at
everything that you're doing this. I'm reminded you of Tine
n Square because I remember that, like it was yesterday.
There was this sort of hupe built up that that
was going to lead them to some freedom and some democracy.
(06:15):
Obviously it was crushed, but that was pre social media.
That was an organic, organized thing and is there a
potential for that type of thing to crop up again.
But I mean, you know, an underground movement like people
actually you know, communicating just by voice as opposed to electronically,
that they can foment some sort of wider rebellion against
(06:37):
this repression.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think that is happening to a certain extent. But
from a religious perspective, I think the Christian underground in
China's massive of people who go to house churches because
in China Christianity is legal. There are two Christian churches
that are legal, the Chinese Catholic Church, which is severed
from the Vatican, and then the three Self Patriotic Church,
which is basically common Party Protestantism. And if you go
(07:02):
into those churches, they don't even talk about Jesus. So
the actual Christians don't go to those churches. They pray
at home, which is illegal, and a lot of those
people have had their home fulldoz have been again disappeared
into the justicism. But that Christian underground that is very
you know, whispered. The meetings are quiet, they pray together
(07:22):
in silence. That has been growing significantly. There are estimates
that there are as many as one hundred million Christians
in China, So I think that is definitely a big
part of it. The protest movement that was the secular
anti lockdown movement that still exists, but that has been
crushed by hopelessness. And there's this also, this trends among
(07:42):
millennials and gen z called lying flat, which essentially means,
you know, don't have any career ambitions, don't get married,
don't have kids, do nothing because anything you do serves
the party. And that that definitely hurts the protest attitude, right.
That feeds in to this idea that there's no hope
in doing anything. America is going to win the Cold War,
(08:04):
and there's no point in trying to fix our government.
So that's that's a big hurdle to getting people into
an active organization to protest and try to get changed.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But I'm reminded of Atlas Shrug. You know, if you
just don't participate and refuse to, you know, provide your
labor and your brilliance to the Chinese Communist Party and
people just sort of quit. If that movement were to
get large enough, that kind of a profound impact.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yes, and it has, you know, if you look at
the population trends in China, the birth rate is collapsing. Yeah,
no one wants to have kids. And not only does
does no.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
One want to have kids, There aren't enough women of
child bearing age because of the one child's pod. It's
thirty five million more men than women. So even if
they wanted to, they can't. But they don't want to.
And so a generation from now, that workforce is going
to look very weak unless they start mass you know,
importing migrants, and China is not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So that is going to have a tremendous negative effect
on the economy. And the economy is basically the only
thing holding up the party right now.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Wow. And part of this makes me think of the
Malethusians and the globalists of the world. Who thinks the
world's population is too big anyway, So this is all
playing into it. You know, Japan's shrinking rapidly every day,
China's population isn't replacing itself, and the same thing here
in the United States and in Europe. It's almost like, ultimately,
you know, we're leading ourselves down the path of well
(09:31):
not keeping the population up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, and I think you know, we're in a better
position and I think a country, for example, like South Korea,
which has the world's lowest birth rate, because we are
spiritually open, because you can have a religion in these countries,
I think that fuels the desire to start families, especially
larger families. In China, the trend that you have is
(09:56):
that basically the only people who want to have families
are the weaker mond in East Turkistan, and they are
undergoing genocide. Chinese communists are going village by village sterilizing
the entire female population of leaguer villages, so the only
people that want to have kids are being sterilized. And
then the Han population, which is despondence after seventy years
(10:18):
of communism, seventy five years, they don't want kids, and
you know, if they have because this communist government is
also Han supremacists, the ethnic con group, which is the
majority population of China, it doesn't really serve them that there's.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Also a trend of Chinese men looking for Indian or Pakistani.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Wives because that doesn't really firm the idea of their
supremacy right. So it is a huge problem. They've been
trying to pressure women into having babies. The Communist Party
now called women and ask them about their cycles and
ask them if they plant and have families, which is
incredibly intrusive and having the opposite effect of what they
(10:58):
want picking in. And it's going to be interesting to
see how.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
They deal with this fascinating conversation, fascinating topic. Francis Martel
international leedit at Breitbart, should be speaking tomorrow night, beginning
at seven pm. It's log in from the comfort of
your own home only, register to a ten virtually go
to empower Youamerica dot org and Joe, we'll also add
a line fifty five Caarosee dot com that for that link.
It's been fascinating talk with you, Francis. As always, I
(11:25):
know my listener is going to enjoy the seminar tomorrow night,
and I look forward to talking with you again real soon.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Thank you so much for having me on my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's eight fifty two right now, folks with five Carrisee
the talk station. Gay to Heaven Cemetery located right there
in Montgomery. It's gorgeous there at Gay to Heaven. It's
a nice place to reflect, engage in some prayer. We'll
do the walks around their gorgeous gorgeous grounds there with
a seasonal flowers. Springtime is a perfect time to do
a stroll through Gay to Heaven and exhale, relax, enjoy
the cemetery's quiet, reverence surroundings. That's what it's all about
(11:57):
and make want to reflect on the passage of the Pope.
If you're cast, good place to go. But it's a
good place for everybody, and it is open for everyone
to enjoy. Gate of Heaven administering to the tri State
for more than seventy seven years, honoring life on sacred ground.
To learn more good at Gateoveheaven dot org. That's gateof
Heeaven dot org. Fifty five car the talk station
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