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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fraud abuse. They're looking for it.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ever been wasted for an abuse? Don't just find a things,
find out.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
All about it. On fifty five krc the talk station,
just I MADO five. You're a fitty five KRCD talk station.
Happy Thursday. My next guest her name Mary Greybar. She's
a Resident Fellow of the Alexander.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Hamilton Institute for the Study of Western Civilization and the
founder of I Love this organization of the organization, the
Dissident prof Education Project, taught to college level for twenty years,
most recently at Emory University. Or work has been published
by the Federalist town Hall, Front Page Magazine, City Journal,
American Greatness, and Academic Questions. And she's written a book
we're talking about today, Debunking FDR, The Man and the Myths.
(00:44):
Welcome to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show. Mary, it's
a pleasure to have you on this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, thank you, it's great to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
When I think of FDR, I first think of my grandfather,
who was a lifelong Democrat, because FDR gave him a
job when he was a tea major in the Civilian
Conservation Corps and that was enough to win over his
long lifelong support for the Democrat Party, even though he
was voting for the indefensible.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Quite often.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
We used to get in political arguments when I was younger.
But God rest his soul. But he also was the
father of term limits. We're bringing about the twenty second amendment.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, well, I've heard of others, you know, who had
warm failings for FDR. Because of the Civilian Conservation Corps,
people were very desperate, and so that was part of
his strategy, was to give things to people who were
suffering under the depression. I mean, it wasn't from his
(01:46):
personal fortune. It was from taxpayers. And then to seem like,
you know, the magnificent leader. Yes, and so you know,
you have those emotional resonances and they'll exist and it's
passed on, you know. I mean some people can understand
while this was part of a strategy, but others think,
(02:09):
you know, well we need to continue with that kind
of program.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Well, people easily refer to him in such awe was
his great or all. He was a great guy. He
got us we won World War Two. He got us
out of the Great Depression, and perhaps maybe we got
out of the Great Depression because of World War Two.
I've always kind of looked at it that way. It
put a lot of people to work in the defense industry,
and it put a lot of people overseas fighting wars,
and that in large parts help us, helped us turn
(02:35):
around the country, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, Yeah, and it's a little deceptive because you know,
you had, you know, millions of working age men who
were fighting overseas, so those unemployment figures were deceptive. It
wasn't really until after the war that the economy rebounded, so,
you know, and a lot of people at the time,
(03:00):
you know, leading up to the war, we're thinking, you know,
he's such a failure. I mean, the economy is still
so bad, you know, twenty percent unemployment, and hey, maybe
he's thinking of war to get us out of this mess.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, and Europe, of course, that's what there is, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm sorry, Oh yeah, I mean that's what a lot
of the critics were saying, you know at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yes, and you know, the United States remained completely unscathed,
so the rest of the industrial complex around the world,
you pretty much bombed out mess of all of Europe
and in England. So we seem to be the recipients
of a lot of business potential and opportunity because the
rest of the world still needed goods.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yes, And it was the same thing, you know, after
World War One, So you had the industrialists, the manufacturers,
you know, rebuilding Europe. Yeah. And the thing was, you know,
the war could have been ended a couple of years sooner,
according to many historians. But you know, Franklin Roosevelt, this
(04:06):
is one of the things I point out as I
go through his early history and his early political career.
He just had this hatred of Germans. And I'm not
talking just about Nazis. I'm talking about your you know,
your ethnic German And he would not consider you know,
having an agreement and you know, ceasing fighting even though
(04:30):
there were uh, you know, Germans resisting Hitler at the time.
He insisted on unconditional surrender. He wanted to make Germany
completely pastoral, wipe out all industry, divided up into different segments,
and make her completely powerless.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
My understanding he had he was in thrall of Stalin
and I mostly remember FDR along lines of the guy
that sold out Eastern Europe at Yalta. So did I mean,
did he not cave in or capitulate the Stalin at
Yalta in giving up the European of the Eastern European
(05:11):
countries and turning them into communist nations.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh absolutely, And that happened even before a Tehran And
you know, he was infatuated with Stalin. Anything Stalin wanted,
you know, FDR was like this defrauded lover, you know,
appealing to him. I mean he had so many opportunities,
(05:36):
you know, you know, with lens lease and supplying you know,
military equipment and food and everything else to you know,
rein him in, but he never did. I mean, he
was an absolutely awful negotiator, and he carved up Poland
and told him you know, but I can't announce this.
(05:59):
And after the election in nineteen forty, because you know,
American polls were voters and he wanted them to vote
for him, and they were you know, pretty solidly Democrats.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, did he also have a hatred for Japan because
he is famous for rounding up Japanese American citizens. Most
only one of my dad's friends, who was a very
young child at the time, ended up in an internment camp.
They lost their house and we're we're in a camp.
I mean that that to me is like, I mean,
one of the bigger human rights abuses that have ever
been conducted by a president.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, and he also did that to Germans, you know,
Germans who lived here in the United States. You know,
there was no due process of you know, if someone
heard a neighborhood someone speaking German or getting German publications,
they were put under suspicion. I mean, there was no
due process. And they were also interns. But yes, Roosevelt
(06:57):
did hate the Japanese. He had a soft spot for
the Chinese because and he'd never been to China, although
he you know, claimed to be an expert on China,
but it was because his grandfather made his fortune by
pushing opium in China and he thought that Japanese. Yeah, yeah,
I go into that quite a bit. And he always
(07:19):
denied it in history. A lot of historians have downplayed
it or outright denied it. But yeah, he was an
opium pusher. How about push.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
This is the first time I've ever heard that.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
We always hear the stories about the Kennedy family making
money off prohibition.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
But I was not aware of that history. That's that's frightening, yes.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And it's been suppressed for a long time, and I
go into quite a bit of detail about it in
my book. And you know, on the point of the
Japanese even before he was inaugurated, he told you know,
his future cabinet members that you know, he foresaw war
with Japan. So this is you know, in nineteen early
(08:04):
nineteen thirty three. He was inaugurated in March. Of course.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Wow, but there have been rumors swirling for years that
maybe he even knew about the impending and bombing of
Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is there any truth to that notion?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, I don't know if that will ever be proven
because a lot of the records have been destroyed and
he did not keep diaries. But he did tell Admiral Richardson,
James O. Richardson, that he would not remove the fleet
from Hawaii. Richardson said, you know, they're vulnerable. So he said,
(08:44):
I can't do this in an election years nineteen forty,
So he, you know, put Richardson in a different spot
and put in Kimmel, who was more you know, agreeable,
And so he was warned about that, and he was
trying to provoke war. I mean, you know, as I
point out in an article that I had published recently, also,
(09:08):
you know, when he and Churchill met at place Antia Bay,
he said, you know, I am going to provoke war.
I want to have a provocation. I want an incident.
He was hoping that it would be around the Philippines.
You know, he didn't think that the Japanese were smart
enough to send such a bombing mission. You know that,
(09:31):
you know, destroyed the fleet and killed almost three thousand men.
But they were you know, he thought that the Japanese
were sneaky and not very smart.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, I know he's perceived as this, you know, champion
of the working crass and a class in the press. Obviously,
he had a great depression to campaign on along those lines.
I suppose the failure of the Hoover administration helped him.
But what was his driving motivation? Is it just simply
a typical politician power struggle and wanting to be a powerful,
controlling man.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yes, he wanted to be a dictator. He was called
a dictator when he was first inaugurated. Some people said,
we need a dictator to get us out of the depression.
But his ambition from the time he was a boy,
or at least a freshman at Harvard, as he told
a girlfriend or he hoped would be his girlfriend, that
(10:26):
he thought he would be president. And he followed in
the footsteps of his cousin, his distant cousin, Theodore Roosevelt,
and you know, planned out his political path of you know,
one a seat to the New York State Senate, then
became assistant Secretary of the Navy, just like you know,
(10:46):
t R. Was ran for vice president with Knox, with Cox,
I'm sorry, and you know then of course came down
with polio. And but he did, you know, when the
governorship served two terms, and you know, he was looking
for an opportunity. A lot of people think he was
(11:07):
just you know, floundering around, well meaning during the depression.
But as I point out from a speech that he
gave at the People's Forum in Troy, New York in
March nineteen twelve, he believed that the Founding Fathers had
it a little wrong. They wanted independence, but what they
really wanted was cooperation and interdependence. And he already was
(11:32):
talking about the compulsory programs that he would set up
in the New Deal. So this is nineteen twelve.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Well, was he a fan of the Woodrow Wilson style government?
You know, dictatorial from top down, and you know, the
the government of experts dictating the terms of conditions of
our lives.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is that his mold.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
A little bit. He was not a great reader or
a student, you know, he was, you know, living in
that milieu of progressivism. I don't think he consciously followed
Woodrow Wilson's program, but they coincidentally matched because Franklin Roosevelt,
(12:16):
you know, grew up in the Hudson Valley and the
kind of feudalistic system he thought of himself as, you know,
being sort of lord of the nation, and that top
down system you know, aligns with progressivism. Yes, so he
had these kind of vague notions. But and he you know,
he did see himself as being powerful, more powerful than
(12:40):
the other two branches of government.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Well, and I guess I have to ask, because you know,
mister Fireside, Chad Fdr. Everybody's like sort of grandfatherly figure
offering us, you know, comfort and solace in our in
our difficult times. Excuse me, ma'am, what was he really
like behind the scenes. Was he that you know, decent,
reasonable guy or was he kind of boil it down
as there was he kind of a jerk because a
(13:03):
lot of people's public persona is not the way they
really run the run the ship.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's right. Yes, he was a master of the radio.
That was a new medium. That was you know, and
so was Mussolini. But I quote extensively from a fellow
Grouten student, Francis Biddle, who became his attorney general ultimately,
and he writes about what he would do to the
(13:31):
people closest to him. He had a way of catching
them when they were most vulnerable and then sort of
attacking them with something that was very hurtful, and he
had pleasure in doing that. There's something sadistic about him,
(13:52):
and even I don't know if you know, I'm not
a psychologist, but when he was a boy, he wrote
this letter to one of his governesses about how he
liked to watch squirrels die after he shot them.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh yeah, it sounds Jeff damer esque.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I know, it's it's yeah. There was definitely a mean streak,
and he really was impervious to people's suffering. He was
very callous. He's yeah, yeah, he sent this maybe lieutenant
on a He wanted to send him on a suicide
mission to provoke the Japanese and you know, given given
(14:39):
what I've discovered about his early life and his pre
presidential career, that sounds, you know, like it would be true.
I mean, that was his character.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Well, I'm sure there's a DSM diagnosis for somewhere in there.
Without question. Name of the book, Debunking FDR the Man
in the my guest today, Mary Grevart. Mary, we put
your book on my blog page fifty five cars dot
com so my listeners can easily get a copy learn
about the realities of FDR rather than the myths and
legends we've been fed all these years. Mary, It's been
an interesting conversation. It's a wonderful book, and I know
(15:14):
my listener is going to really enjoy reading it. And
I can't thank you enough for the time he's spoke
my listeners today, just scratching the surface of the man
who is or was FDR.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
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Fraud abuse. They're looking for it.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Ever been wasted for an abuse? Don't just find a things,
find out.
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All about it. On fifty five krc the talk station,
just I MADO five. You're a fitty five KRCD talk station.
Happy Thursday. My next guest her name Mary Greybar. She's
a Resident Fellow of the Alexander.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Hamilton Institute for the Study of Western Civilization and the
founder of I Love this organization of the organization, the
Dissident prof Education Project, taught to college level for twenty years,
most recently at Emory University. Or work has been published
by the Federalist town Hall, Front Page Magazine, City Journal,
American Greatness, and Academic Questions. And she's written a book
we're talking about today, Debunking FDR, The Man and the Myths.
(00:44):
Welcome to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show. Mary, it's
a pleasure to have you on this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, thank you, it's great to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
When I think of FDR, I first think of my grandfather,
who was a lifelong Democrat, because FDR gave him a
job when he was a tea major in the Civilian
Conservation Corps and that was enough to win over his
long lifelong support for the Democrat Party, even though he
was voting for the indefensible.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Quite often.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
We used to get in political arguments when I was younger.
But God rest his soul. But he also was the
father of term limits. We're bringing about the twenty second amendment.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, well, I've heard of others, you know, who had
warm failings for FDR. Because of the Civilian Conservation Corps,
people were very desperate, and so that was part of
his strategy, was to give things to people who were
suffering under the depression. I mean, it wasn't from his
(01:46):
personal fortune. It was from taxpayers. And then to seem like,
you know, the magnificent leader. Yes, and so you know,
you have those emotional resonances and they'll exist and it's
passed on, you know. I mean some people can understand
while this was part of a strategy, but others think,
(02:09):
you know, well we need to continue with that kind
of program.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Well, people easily refer to him in such awe was
his great or all. He was a great guy. He
got us we won World War Two. He got us
out of the Great Depression, and perhaps maybe we got
out of the Great Depression because of World War Two.
I've always kind of looked at it that way. It
put a lot of people to work in the defense industry,
and it put a lot of people overseas fighting wars,
and that in large parts help us, helped us turn
(02:35):
around the country, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, Yeah, and it's a little deceptive because you know,
you had, you know, millions of working age men who
were fighting overseas, so those unemployment figures were deceptive. It
wasn't really until after the war that the economy rebounded, so,
you know, and a lot of people at the time,
(03:00):
you know, leading up to the war, we're thinking, you know,
he's such a failure. I mean, the economy is still
so bad, you know, twenty percent unemployment, and hey, maybe
he's thinking of war to get us out of this mess.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, and Europe, of course, that's what there is, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm sorry, Oh yeah, I mean that's what a lot
of the critics were saying, you know at the time.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yes, and you know, the United States remained completely unscathed,
so the rest of the industrial complex around the world,
you pretty much bombed out mess of all of Europe
and in England. So we seem to be the recipients
of a lot of business potential and opportunity because the
rest of the world still needed goods.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yes, And it was the same thing, you know, after
World War One, So you had the industrialists, the manufacturers,
you know, rebuilding Europe. Yeah. And the thing was, you know,
the war could have been ended a couple of years sooner,
according to many historians. But you know, Franklin Roosevelt, this
(04:06):
is one of the things I point out as I
go through his early history and his early political career.
He just had this hatred of Germans. And I'm not
talking just about Nazis. I'm talking about your you know,
your ethnic German And he would not consider you know,
having an agreement and you know, ceasing fighting even though
(04:30):
there were uh, you know, Germans resisting Hitler at the time.
He insisted on unconditional surrender. He wanted to make Germany
completely pastoral, wipe out all industry, divided up into different segments,
and make her completely powerless.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
My understanding he had he was in thrall of Stalin
and I mostly remember FDR along lines of the guy
that sold out Eastern Europe at Yalta. So did I mean,
did he not cave in or capitulate the Stalin at
Yalta in giving up the European of the Eastern European
(05:11):
countries and turning them into communist nations.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh absolutely, And that happened even before a Tehran And
you know, he was infatuated with Stalin. Anything Stalin wanted,
you know, FDR was like this defrauded lover, you know,
appealing to him. I mean he had so many opportunities,
(05:36):
you know, you know, with lens lease and supplying you know,
military equipment and food and everything else to you know,
rein him in, but he never did. I mean, he
was an absolutely awful negotiator, and he carved up Poland
and told him you know, but I can't announce this.
(05:59):
And after the election in nineteen forty, because you know,
American polls were voters and he wanted them to vote
for him, and they were you know, pretty solidly Democrats.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, did he also have a hatred for Japan because
he is famous for rounding up Japanese American citizens. Most
only one of my dad's friends, who was a very
young child at the time, ended up in an internment camp.
They lost their house and we're we're in a camp.
I mean that that to me is like, I mean,
one of the bigger human rights abuses that have ever
been conducted by a president.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, and he also did that to Germans, you know,
Germans who lived here in the United States. You know,
there was no due process of you know, if someone
heard a neighborhood someone speaking German or getting German publications,
they were put under suspicion. I mean, there was no
due process. And they were also interns. But yes, Roosevelt
(06:57):
did hate the Japanese. He had a soft spot for
the Chinese because and he'd never been to China, although
he you know, claimed to be an expert on China,
but it was because his grandfather made his fortune by
pushing opium in China and he thought that Japanese. Yeah, yeah,
I go into that quite a bit. And he always
(07:19):
denied it in history. A lot of historians have downplayed
it or outright denied it. But yeah, he was an
opium pusher. How about push.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
This is the first time I've ever heard that.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
We always hear the stories about the Kennedy family making
money off prohibition.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
But I was not aware of that history. That's that's frightening, yes.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
And it's been suppressed for a long time, and I
go into quite a bit of detail about it in
my book. And you know, on the point of the
Japanese even before he was inaugurated, he told you know,
his future cabinet members that you know, he foresaw war
with Japan. So this is you know, in nineteen early
(08:04):
nineteen thirty three. He was inaugurated in March. Of course.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Wow, but there have been rumors swirling for years that
maybe he even knew about the impending and bombing of
Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is there any truth to that notion?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, I don't know if that will ever be proven
because a lot of the records have been destroyed and
he did not keep diaries. But he did tell Admiral Richardson,
James O. Richardson, that he would not remove the fleet
from Hawaii. Richardson said, you know, they're vulnerable. So he said,
(08:44):
I can't do this in an election years nineteen forty,
So he, you know, put Richardson in a different spot
and put in Kimmel, who was more you know, agreeable,
And so he was warned about that, and he was
trying to provoke war. I mean, you know, as I
point out in an article that I had published recently, also,
(09:08):
you know, when he and Churchill met at place Antia Bay,
he said, you know, I am going to provoke war.
I want to have a provocation. I want an incident.
He was hoping that it would be around the Philippines.
You know, he didn't think that the Japanese were smart
enough to send such a bombing mission. You know that,
(09:31):
you know, destroyed the fleet and killed almost three thousand men.
But they were you know, he thought that the Japanese
were sneaky and not very smart.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, I know he's perceived as this, you know, champion
of the working crass and a class in the press. Obviously,
he had a great depression to campaign on along those lines.
I suppose the failure of the Hoover administration helped him.
But what was his driving motivation? Is it just simply
a typical politician power struggle and wanting to be a powerful,
controlling man.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yes, he wanted to be a dictator. He was called
a dictator when he was first inaugurated. Some people said,
we need a dictator to get us out of the depression.
But his ambition from the time he was a boy,
or at least a freshman at Harvard, as he told
a girlfriend or he hoped would be his girlfriend, that
(10:26):
he thought he would be president. And he followed in
the footsteps of his cousin, his distant cousin, Theodore Roosevelt,
and you know, planned out his political path of you know,
one a seat to the New York State Senate, then
became assistant Secretary of the Navy, just like you know,
(10:46):
t R. Was ran for vice president with Knox, with Cox,
I'm sorry, and you know then of course came down
with polio. And but he did, you know, when the
governorship served two terms, and you know, he was looking
for an opportunity. A lot of people think he was
(11:07):
just you know, floundering around, well meaning during the depression.
But as I point out from a speech that he
gave at the People's Forum in Troy, New York in
March nineteen twelve, he believed that the Founding Fathers had
it a little wrong. They wanted independence, but what they
really wanted was cooperation and interdependence. And he already was
(11:32):
talking about the compulsory programs that he would set up
in the New Deal. So this is nineteen twelve.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Well, was he a fan of the Woodrow Wilson style government?
You know, dictatorial from top down, and you know, the
the government of experts dictating the terms of conditions of
our lives.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Is that his mold.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
A little bit. He was not a great reader or
a student, you know, he was, you know, living in
that milieu of progressivism. I don't think he consciously followed
Woodrow Wilson's program, but they coincidentally matched because Franklin Roosevelt,
(12:16):
you know, grew up in the Hudson Valley and the
kind of feudalistic system he thought of himself as, you know,
being sort of lord of the nation, and that top
down system you know, aligns with progressivism. Yes, so he
had these kind of vague notions. But and he you know,
he did see himself as being powerful, more powerful than
(12:40):
the other two branches of government.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Well, and I guess I have to ask, because you know,
mister Fireside, Chad Fdr. Everybody's like sort of grandfatherly figure
offering us, you know, comfort and solace in our in
our difficult times. Excuse me, ma'am, what was he really
like behind the scenes. Was he that you know, decent,
reasonable guy or was he kind of boil it down
as there was he kind of a jerk because a
(13:03):
lot of people's public persona is not the way they
really run the run the ship.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's right. Yes, he was a master of the radio.
That was a new medium. That was you know, and
so was Mussolini. But I quote extensively from a fellow
Grouten student, Francis Biddle, who became his attorney general ultimately,
and he writes about what he would do to the
(13:31):
people closest to him. He had a way of catching
them when they were most vulnerable and then sort of
attacking them with something that was very hurtful, and he
had pleasure in doing that. There's something sadistic about him,
(13:52):
and even I don't know if you know, I'm not
a psychologist, but when he was a boy, he wrote
this letter to one of his governesses about how he
liked to watch squirrels die after he shot them.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh yeah, it sounds Jeff damer esque.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I know, it's it's yeah. There was definitely a mean streak,
and he really was impervious to people's suffering. He was
very callous. He's yeah, yeah, he sent this maybe lieutenant
on a He wanted to send him on a suicide
mission to provoke the Japanese and you know, given given
(14:39):
what I've discovered about his early life and his pre
presidential career, that sounds, you know, like it would be true.
I mean, that was his character.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Well, I'm sure there's a DSM diagnosis for somewhere in there.
Without question. Name of the book, Debunking FDR the Man
in the my guest today, Mary Grevart. Mary, we put
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legends we've been fed all these years. Mary, It's been
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my listener is going to really enjoy reading it. And
I can't thank you enough for the time he's spoke
my listeners today, just scratching the surface of the man
who is or was FDR.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure.
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