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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eighty
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yarding. Anne boy. I'll tell
you what. He's one of my favorite guests. Love having
this guy on. We just can't get enough of him.
But he's so busy traveling around the world looking at plants,
hugging the babies, kissing the mommies, doing all that kind
of stuff, signing autographs. It's crazy. You know who I'm
(00:22):
talking about. He's a well known writer, speaker, horticulturalist. He
travels the world sharing his passion for plants. I think
he's been given about every prestigious award for writing. And
there's work of the horticulture that anybody could ever get.
Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, doctor, Allen Apple Armitage.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Ah, good morning, Good morning, my friend. How are you
this morning? Sounds like you're in fine.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I am doing great. Have you had any apples yet
this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Not y. I'm trying to do this low carb thing
because you know, I want the heck, just one more
challenge and my apple turnovers. An apple scrudle doesn't really
quite on my menu. However, that will change soon, because
it can only you can only stay away from that
stuff for so long.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I mean, apples are good for you. Come on, even
though they're deep deep fried or whatever they may be.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No, believe me, I am ready to get in fact
right now. It's it's it's I don't know where you are,
which your temperature is, or you are, but good grief,
it was in the thirties last night here, so I'm
sure it was pretty chilly there as well.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, we had a freeze morning until nine o'clock this morning,
so we've been going through that for the last several months.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Now. Oh winter, it just doesn't want to go away.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It'll break. I don't know if you had doctor armities.
I don't know if you heard the news or not
before we came to you, but they said fifty two
percent of all people singing the shower would that be?
Are you in that percentage?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I I just I listened to that just before we
came on Ron And now I know I don't listen
to the news, but I didn't even know what that
song was. I guess not.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But yeah, Dan, our producer, I both look at each
other said no, I wouldn't sing that in this shower.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I sing at this hour, that door better be firmly closed.
That's for sure. I love it. It's good fun to sing.
But as soon as I start singing, my wife just
closes the door and that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So how about when you're out in the garden, do
you play music out there and you're in your garden saying?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Sometimes I do? Actually, you know, the garden is actually
beautiful here. We're we're obviously a little ahead of you,
and I've got some spectacular things I'm looking at right now.
You can hear the birds in the distance, and uh so, yeah,
I know. I I hulm my sing. If people say, gee,
you must work a lot in the garden, and I
guess I do. But you know, if you like what
(02:46):
you do, it's really not work, is it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
No, it's not. Talking with doctor Alan Armitage. His website
is Alan Armitage dot net if you're interested in any
of his books, signing up for his podcast. And of course,
the absolute best gardening app that's out there that's available
for you is Armity is Great Garden Plants by Alan
Army's back Pocket Gardening just absolutely outstanding. And you know,
I was watching an interview with you the other day
(03:08):
with I Think with Brian and you were talking about
common sense questions and answers and things like that. You
know what the common sense answer is to all of
those all those questions. Get doctor Armitage's app.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I keep trying to tell people that, but you know
they look at me like I'm a little a little weird.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I can't wait for you to say that. I
thought you were going to say, Well, you know, Brian,
the best answer for all of these common sensical answer
would be just get my gardening app.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I mean, it actually has, it has, it's quite popular,
and it works well, and it's got pretty simple stuff
but also a little bit more in depth and for
sure every day things that you can find online. So yeah,
I'm very proud of it. It is great, and I
hope people do get it. You know, it costs as
much as a very very very bad Amberger four ninety nine,
(04:02):
so and it's there for the rest of your the
rest of your gardening day, so you might as well.
Uh people, people seem to like it, and I seem
to do it, and I'm always working a darn thing,
so I'm getting tired. Of it, but it is, it is.
It is great. It's great to have.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And of course you're doing the podcast and all that
as well. And again you've learned about what this is
at his website at Alan arm Andy's done. Now let's
get started with looking at your garden. I was looking
in the at the pictures the other day and I
noticed in the background the deciduous hollies that you have
in flower right or that you haven't flower rightsidious.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, they you know, we the deciduous as alias are spectacular,
and you know they're natives. I say they're native. There's
native species and of the hybridizers and the breeders have
made them more brilliant orange and more fib but it
is cold and more fragrant, and uh certainly gosh, I
mean right now, they're they're they're they're flowering here and
(04:56):
I can't get enough of them. They tolerate just about
every condition, sun shade, they like afternoon shade. But boy,
oh boy, they are beautiful. They are they are part
of the wold garden. If you and I hope Ron
you're gonna get your bust load of your listeners to
come see me here. But uh, this is when you
come in the gate. This is what I call the
wild garden because that's the first thing you see.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So do we have to we have to act wild
when we go in there?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Or it says it says, it says on the gate
the secret Garden Admission one bottle of good wine. So
I mean, once you get that stuff open, there's there's
no stopping us.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So so mad dog ripple that. No, that stuff counts right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, look get back around. No, No, it's a lovely place.
It's a small garden, but it yeah, it's just pretty
right now. And of course in the heat of July
comes home be clutters pretty. But it's certainly lovely now.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, I seriously on the on the azaleas, I mean,
that's one of the things that it seemed like when
I was much younger in this industry, we saw a
lot of those. Then it seemed to kind of go away.
That folks that lost lost the interest. But today there's
a lot of great new varieties back on the market
again that and again they're tough and durable, uh, consistent bloomers,
and the colors are spectacular.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, well the other thing too, you know, they all
have native azalea stock in them. You know, the Japanese
azaleas that are everywhere. And I don't know how many
azaleas you guys right up in Cincinnati area. But the
fact is they're everywhere here. They're beautiful, they're they're they're lovely,
and they're easy to propagate and produce. But these these
and I'll call them deciduous as a postnators because they're
(06:36):
definitely native of ours. But boy, they they they they
put many things to shame. They already do they do?
I hope they hope they're available at you at the
various outlets.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh they, I mean they're out there. It's just that
a lot of folks just don't know what they are.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, Allen, they're in flower. They're pretty hard to ignore.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Then it's like, what is that thing? There's no doubt
about it. Talk with doctor Allan Armitage. His website is
Alan Armonis dot net. Be sure and check it out.
And you just got back from a little trip out
to California little plant trials out there, any anything that
really impressed you while you're out there?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Boy, oh boy, you know that this is the California
Spring Trials where you know, when you come down to it,
there's not a whole lot of plant breeders in the world,
ornamental plant breeders, So most of them get together along
the coast of California. So the people like myself and
the court people like you, the garden center people, the
(07:32):
box for people, the people are buying and displaying plants
for your consumers. They get to see what's going to
be new for the next year. And yeah, it's a
wonderful opportunity. And you know, so many of these breeders,
you know, they really they're they're their main dealer are
the annuals, the portunities, the caliber coos, and they're spectacular.
(07:53):
But there are a lot of good new premials out
there this year, and certainly one of the groups of
plants that has really been you know, hooisted out there
are the dahlias and the bogogonias as far as the
annuals and in as far as preennials. Boy, look out
for the digitalists that are coming down the road by
the respectactulor Yeah it's kind of cool. So well, you know,
(08:14):
from the point of view of the gardener, digitalis are
to me just a no brainer. Whether they're an annual
or a biennial or a preennial. It doesn't matter. You
get your money's worth when you have digitalis because you
give that spike look great cut flower, beautiful colors and
you know they just kind of late springy thing. They're
they're beautiful and this and some of the breeding I
(08:36):
saw was for especially for the person who were growing them.
All the colors come off at once, they don't need
a vergalization period. It's really kind of interesting and quite
quite beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Talk with doctor Alan Ormitage. Of course, his website again
is Alan Ormitage dot net. We'll take a quick break,
we come back. Lots more questions for the doc. Here
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Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning, Doctor Alan apple Armitage is in the house.
Actually he's in his own garden right now. Because you
can hear the birds in the background chirp and away.
He's got his jacket on because it's a little cool
out there this morning, and no apple fritters so far
this morning. But I saw a picture of you with
that new grill. You didn't makes on your face.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, well, you know, we're fortunate here we could. I mean,
I gonna do a lot of barbecuing. There's not a
big barbecue person, But we got this gribble. I got
my eggs like bacon and my oh my silly foods
that I enjoy eating. Put them on a griddle right
in the gardens, so you know, the plants, the plants
(12:06):
can smell the good, the good bacon cooking.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
The only thing I saw there was bacon. I didn't
see any eggs or anything else. That's that's okay with me.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Picture, I don't know, I don't know that came for.
But uh no, you know, we're you know, I'm just
so fortunate. We you know, pretty place, a lovely, lovely
place to call home, and on a griddle. So I mean,
what else is there? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, really, And you know, if if you're like me,
if the recipe calls for a pound of bacon, you
buy two, one for you and one for the recipe.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Isn't that amazing? A pound of bacon and it's gone
like in a day, I know, I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The day now a day, a day, a couple of hours,
it's gone to my house.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, we're trying to we're trying to be somewhat play here.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Uh, talking with doctor Allan Armitage his website, Alan Armidy's
dot net. Check out his podcast, check out His gardening
app is absolute the best guarding app all the four
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on a regular basis, of course, all of his great books.
What are you going to do a follow up on
the on the story about the plant names?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, you know that's that's interesting, this book of Naked
Ladies and Forgetting Me nots how plants get their common names.
There's been the tittum and you've you've been very very
kind roun in letting people know about it. And it's
just it's a story book and people love stories. So
that's what this podcast is about. Ron. You know, I'm
an old guy. What about doing a podcast? You know,
(13:34):
like you said, we first talked this moy some some
very very popular song in the shower I've ever even
heard of. So here I am doing a podcast. But uh,
it's it's really I'm just telling stories. If you happen
to tune into the podcast, the story of Joe Pie
or the story of you know what a Dog would
has to do with dogs, or a talk about has
to do with foxes. So that's kind of stuff I
(13:56):
enjoy sharing. And that's that's so there's always stories coming
out there. I don't know if I'll do another book,
but I do find other stories to share that works.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
That works, and I like I like what I like
the thing about these that that they are short and sweet.
They are they are that, that's for sure, and all
the all the great plants. Quick question for you when
you were at those plant trials, you know, as you're
looking at the plant readers, and obviously you've you've been
a plant reader for most of your career as well,
(14:25):
and have developed many new plants along the way, are
you I mean, are they breeding more for foliage colors,
anymore for flower for maintenance? Or they do you see
native plants coming into the the native art coming into
that fold a lot more now, any any kind of
a trend there, I mean, that's that you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, you know, when you when you're looking at these companies.
Now these are you you know, these companies, the balls
and singentives and all these people that are breeding ornamental plants.
They're big deal. Of course, is you know color, it's
all color, maybe like Bogonia foliage colors out there for Schubart.
I mean, they're those kind of wreck type pogonias. They're they're, they're,
(15:08):
they're they're really become popular. But the flowers and and
uh natives, yeah, because there's just not a whole lot
of perennial breeders in the najor flower breeding category. When
I say not a lot, we have a bunch in
this country. And we always were not running out of
perennial to believe me. But uh, you know the yeah,
(15:31):
the trend is to market the plant to you the
garden center or to the landscaper, and marking the plant
means let's come up with something's going to catch the eye.
So all of the above, and you know, sometimes we
just I don't know how many more petunias or taibricolea
as one can stand, but those are still out there
in stages.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
How about hydrangees, Oh right, I.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Started, Oh my godness, but there weren't as many of
this year, thank goodness. But some of the really cool
uh uh perennial stuff. There's some you know, kind of
new digitalists do that that I just mentioned quickly. And
there's been uh and and there's new you know Brunera
(16:16):
that that false forget me not, there's new hostage uh
And I tell you what I'm really excited about. I
don't know if you guys be able to do in Cincinnati.
I hope you try it. Are some of the new
garden ulster arias. You know, the ulster aria has been
a cut flower from Holland forever, but the garden uls
arias the kind of Zone seven trying to get into six.
(16:38):
You know, they're they're they're new and people don't know them.
But I'm excited about that. I think that's gonna be
fun if we can get those out there.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Some of the ones we've looked at did did say
six on the on the description anyway, So yeah, we're
going to try to experiment with them a little bit
and see what.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I hope you And of course, my my all time
favorite is still the new Hellibores that will becoming out.
Oh my god boy, this is Hellibor City right here.
I want to tell you that they are. It's amazing
what's gone on there.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You know you brought up or brunera, and you know
there's a there's a plant that's a shade plant that
you know, folks just don't know about. I mean, it's again,
that's one that we just got to get the word
out there more. Especially you know, if the deer eating
your hostas and you're looking for something else in that shade,
that's right there you go.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean, no, I don't mean to chuck the little
deer because they are a huge problem. They're just and again,
so ron I think I need your help to to
to read my new uh the new book that I'm
working on called Common Sense Gardening, and one of them
is what do I do about deer? And so it's
it's really really a tough situation. But you're right, choose plants.
(17:48):
Hopefully you can't choose some plants the deer aren't going
to go after unless they're starving to death. And something
like brunner or false forget me not, it's five ers
in the shade. It's colorful in the shade. It also
is something that if you happen to have a moist area.
It does very very well there as well, so I
thought that's a cool plant, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, and great selections that are out there today. You're
absolutely right talking with doctor Allan Armitage again Alan Armony's
dot and that is the website. One last one before
we go here. You know, the the plant breeding that's
going on out there now with the glowing in the
dark plants, that firefly platunia. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Have you got some yet? You know? So for your listeners,
it's a it's a platunia that literally glows in the dark. Okay,
but and I say it, but I went in one
hundred percent skeptical, said come on, and I came out,
you know, maybe eighty percent skeptical. But it does. It's
it's really an interesting breaks I guess I only call
(18:45):
it break to a really interesting innovation and breeding. They
have this bioluminescence gene, so the little flower buds of
all the patunias in this particular one tend to glow.
But it has to be pitch black raw, and it
has to be really dark. I'm not sure that even
moon might be too bright. But I have some in
the garden here, so I'm going to get up at
(19:07):
two o'clock in the morning and see if I can
see them, or just it's fun to talk about, or.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Just stay up. Doctor Allan Armony's always a pleasure Again
his website, alanarmonist Net. I'm sure we will talk to
you more as we go through the spring season, Sir.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I can't wait. Thanks a lot, everybody, all the best.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Take care, doctor Alan Armitage. Right here in the garden
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two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yarding. Anne boy. I'll tell
you what. He's one of my favorite guests. Love having
this guy on. We just can't get enough of him.
But he's so busy traveling around the world looking at plants,
hugging the babies, kissing the mommies, doing all that kind
of stuff, signing autographs. It's crazy. You know who I'm
(00:22):
talking about. He's a well known writer, speaker, horticulturalist. He
travels the world sharing his passion for plants. I think
he's been given about every prestigious award for writing. And
there's work of the horticulture that anybody could ever get.
Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, doctor, Allen Apple Armitage.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Ah, good morning, Good morning, my friend. How are you
this morning? Sounds like you're in fine.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I am doing great. Have you had any apples yet
this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Not y. I'm trying to do this low carb thing
because you know, I want the heck, just one more
challenge and my apple turnovers. An apple scrudle doesn't really
quite on my menu. However, that will change soon, because
it can only you can only stay away from that
stuff for so long.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I mean, apples are good for you. Come on, even
though they're deep deep fried or whatever they may be.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No, believe me, I am ready to get in fact
right now. It's it's it's I don't know where you are,
which your temperature is, or you are, but good grief,
it was in the thirties last night here, so I'm
sure it was pretty chilly there as well.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, we had a freeze morning until nine o'clock this morning,
so we've been going through that for the last several months.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Now. Oh winter, it just doesn't want to go away.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It'll break. I don't know if you had doctor armities.
I don't know if you heard the news or not
before we came to you, but they said fifty two
percent of all people singing the shower would that be?
Are you in that percentage?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I I just I listened to that just before we
came on Ron And now I know I don't listen
to the news, but I didn't even know what that
song was. I guess not.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
But yeah, Dan, our producer, I both look at each
other said no, I wouldn't sing that in this shower.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I sing at this hour, that door better be firmly closed.
That's for sure. I love it. It's good fun to sing.
But as soon as I start singing, my wife just
closes the door and that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So how about when you're out in the garden, do
you play music out there and you're in your garden saying?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Sometimes I do? Actually, you know, the garden is actually
beautiful here. We're we're obviously a little ahead of you,
and I've got some spectacular things I'm looking at right now.
You can hear the birds in the distance, and uh so, yeah,
I know. I I hulm my sing. If people say, gee,
you must work a lot in the garden, and I
guess I do. But you know, if you like what
(02:46):
you do, it's really not work, is it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
No, it's not. Talking with doctor Alan Armitage. His website
is Alan Armitage dot net if you're interested in any
of his books, signing up for his podcast. And of course,
the absolute best gardening app that's out there that's available
for you is Armity is Great Garden Plants by Alan
Army's back Pocket Gardening just absolutely outstanding. And you know,
I was watching an interview with you the other day
(03:08):
with I Think with Brian and you were talking about
common sense questions and answers and things like that. You
know what the common sense answer is to all of
those all those questions. Get doctor Armitage's app.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I keep trying to tell people that, but you know
they look at me like I'm a little a little weird.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I can't wait for you to say that. I
thought you were going to say, Well, you know, Brian,
the best answer for all of these common sensical answer
would be just get my gardening app.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I mean, it actually has, it has, it's quite popular,
and it works well, and it's got pretty simple stuff
but also a little bit more in depth and for
sure every day things that you can find online. So yeah,
I'm very proud of it. It is great, and I
hope people do get it. You know, it costs as
much as a very very very bad Amberger four ninety nine,
(04:02):
so and it's there for the rest of your the
rest of your gardening day, so you might as well.
Uh people, people seem to like it, and I seem
to do it, and I'm always working a darn thing,
so I'm getting tired. Of it, but it is, it is.
It is great. It's great to have.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And of course you're doing the podcast and all that
as well. And again you've learned about what this is
at his website at Alan arm Andy's done. Now let's
get started with looking at your garden. I was looking
in the at the pictures the other day and I
noticed in the background the deciduous hollies that you have
in flower right or that you haven't flower rightsidious.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, they you know, we the deciduous as alias are spectacular,
and you know they're natives. I say they're native. There's
native species and of the hybridizers and the breeders have
made them more brilliant orange and more fib but it
is cold and more fragrant, and uh certainly gosh, I
mean right now, they're they're they're they're flowering here and
(04:56):
I can't get enough of them. They tolerate just about
every condition, sun shade, they like afternoon shade. But boy,
oh boy, they are beautiful. They are they are part
of the wold garden. If you and I hope Ron
you're gonna get your bust load of your listeners to
come see me here. But uh, this is when you
come in the gate. This is what I call the
wild garden because that's the first thing you see.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So do we have to we have to act wild
when we go in there?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Or it says it says, it says on the gate
the secret Garden Admission one bottle of good wine. So
I mean, once you get that stuff open, there's there's
no stopping us.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So so mad dog ripple that. No, that stuff counts right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, look get back around. No, No, it's a lovely place.
It's a small garden, but it yeah, it's just pretty
right now. And of course in the heat of July
comes home be clutters pretty. But it's certainly lovely now.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, I seriously on the on the azaleas, I mean,
that's one of the things that it seemed like when
I was much younger in this industry, we saw a
lot of those. Then it seemed to kind of go away.
That folks that lost lost the interest. But today there's
a lot of great new varieties back on the market
again that and again they're tough and durable, uh, consistent bloomers,
and the colors are spectacular.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, well the other thing too, you know, they all
have native azalea stock in them. You know, the Japanese
azaleas that are everywhere. And I don't know how many
azaleas you guys right up in Cincinnati area. But the
fact is they're everywhere here. They're beautiful, they're they're they're lovely,
and they're easy to propagate and produce. But these these
and I'll call them deciduous as a postnators because they're
(06:36):
definitely native of ours. But boy, they they they they
put many things to shame. They already do they do?
I hope they hope they're available at you at the
various outlets.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh they, I mean they're out there. It's just that
a lot of folks just don't know what they are.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, Allen, they're in flower. They're pretty hard to ignore.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Then it's like, what is that thing? There's no doubt
about it. Talk with doctor Allan Armitage. His website is
Alan Armonis dot net. Be sure and check it out.
And you just got back from a little trip out
to California little plant trials out there, any anything that
really impressed you while you're out there?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Boy, oh boy, you know that this is the California
Spring Trials where you know, when you come down to it,
there's not a whole lot of plant breeders in the world,
ornamental plant breeders, So most of them get together along
the coast of California. So the people like myself and
the court people like you, the garden center people, the
(07:32):
box for people, the people are buying and displaying plants
for your consumers. They get to see what's going to
be new for the next year. And yeah, it's a
wonderful opportunity. And you know, so many of these breeders,
you know, they really they're they're their main dealer are
the annuals, the portunities, the caliber coos, and they're spectacular.
(07:53):
But there are a lot of good new premials out
there this year, and certainly one of the groups of
plants that has really been you know, hooisted out there
are the dahlias and the bogogonias as far as the
annuals and in as far as preennials. Boy, look out
for the digitalists that are coming down the road by
the respectactulor Yeah it's kind of cool. So well, you know,
(08:14):
from the point of view of the gardener, digitalis are
to me just a no brainer. Whether they're an annual
or a biennial or a preennial. It doesn't matter. You
get your money's worth when you have digitalis because you
give that spike look great cut flower, beautiful colors and
you know they just kind of late springy thing. They're
they're beautiful and this and some of the breeding I
(08:36):
saw was for especially for the person who were growing them.
All the colors come off at once, they don't need
a vergalization period. It's really kind of interesting and quite
quite beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Talk with doctor Alan Ormitage. Of course, his website again
is Alan Ormitage dot net. We'll take a quick break,
we come back. Lots more questions for the doc. Here
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Speaker 1 (11:20):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning, Doctor Alan apple Armitage is in the house.
Actually he's in his own garden right now. Because you
can hear the birds in the background chirp and away.
He's got his jacket on because it's a little cool
out there this morning, and no apple fritters so far
this morning. But I saw a picture of you with
that new grill. You didn't makes on your face.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, well, you know, we're fortunate here we could. I mean,
I gonna do a lot of barbecuing. There's not a
big barbecue person, But we got this gribble. I got
my eggs like bacon and my oh my silly foods
that I enjoy eating. Put them on a griddle right
in the gardens, so you know, the plants, the plants
(12:06):
can smell the good, the good bacon cooking.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
The only thing I saw there was bacon. I didn't
see any eggs or anything else. That's that's okay with me.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Picture, I don't know, I don't know that came for.
But uh no, you know, we're you know, I'm just
so fortunate. We you know, pretty place, a lovely, lovely
place to call home, and on a griddle. So I mean,
what else is there? Well?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, really, And you know, if if you're like me,
if the recipe calls for a pound of bacon, you
buy two, one for you and one for the recipe.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Isn't that amazing? A pound of bacon and it's gone
like in a day, I know, I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The day now a day, a day, a couple of hours,
it's gone to my house.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, we're trying to we're trying to be somewhat play here.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Uh, talking with doctor Allan Armitage his website, Alan Armidy's
dot net. Check out his podcast, check out His gardening
app is absolute the best guarding app all the four
ninety nine and it's a it's available for you, updated
on a regular basis, of course, all of his great books.
What are you going to do a follow up on
the on the story about the plant names?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, you know that's that's interesting, this book of Naked
Ladies and Forgetting Me nots how plants get their common names.
There's been the tittum and you've you've been very very
kind roun in letting people know about it. And it's
just it's a story book and people love stories. So
that's what this podcast is about. Ron. You know, I'm
an old guy. What about doing a podcast? You know,
(13:34):
like you said, we first talked this moy some some
very very popular song in the shower I've ever even
heard of. So here I am doing a podcast. But uh,
it's it's really I'm just telling stories. If you happen
to tune into the podcast, the story of Joe Pie
or the story of you know what a Dog would
has to do with dogs, or a talk about has
to do with foxes. So that's kind of stuff I
(13:56):
enjoy sharing. And that's that's so there's always stories coming
out there. I don't know if I'll do another book,
but I do find other stories to share that works.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
That works, and I like I like what I like
the thing about these that that they are short and sweet.
They are they are that, that's for sure, and all
the all the great plants. Quick question for you when
you were at those plant trials, you know, as you're
looking at the plant readers, and obviously you've you've been
a plant reader for most of your career as well,
(14:25):
and have developed many new plants along the way, are
you I mean, are they breeding more for foliage colors,
anymore for flower for maintenance? Or they do you see
native plants coming into the the native art coming into
that fold a lot more now, any any kind of
a trend there, I mean, that's that you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, you know, when you when you're looking at these companies.
Now these are you you know, these companies, the balls
and singentives and all these people that are breeding ornamental plants.
They're big deal. Of course, is you know color, it's
all color, maybe like Bogonia foliage colors out there for Schubart.
I mean, they're those kind of wreck type pogonias. They're they're, they're,
(15:08):
they're they're really become popular. But the flowers and and
uh natives, yeah, because there's just not a whole lot
of perennial breeders in the najor flower breeding category. When
I say not a lot, we have a bunch in
this country. And we always were not running out of
perennial to believe me. But uh, you know the yeah,
(15:31):
the trend is to market the plant to you the
garden center or to the landscaper, and marking the plant
means let's come up with something's going to catch the eye.
So all of the above, and you know, sometimes we
just I don't know how many more petunias or taibricolea
as one can stand, but those are still out there
in stages.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
How about hydrangees, Oh right, I.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Started, Oh my godness, but there weren't as many of
this year, thank goodness. But some of the really cool
uh uh perennial stuff. There's some you know, kind of
new digitalists do that that I just mentioned quickly. And
there's been uh and and there's new you know Brunera
(16:16):
that that false forget me not, there's new hostage uh
And I tell you what I'm really excited about. I
don't know if you guys be able to do in Cincinnati.
I hope you try it. Are some of the new
garden ulster arias. You know, the ulster aria has been
a cut flower from Holland forever, but the garden uls
arias the kind of Zone seven trying to get into six.
(16:38):
You know, they're they're they're new and people don't know them.
But I'm excited about that. I think that's gonna be
fun if we can get those out there.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Some of the ones we've looked at did did say
six on the on the description anyway, So yeah, we're
going to try to experiment with them a little bit
and see what.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I hope you And of course, my my all time
favorite is still the new Hellibores that will becoming out.
Oh my god boy, this is Hellibor City right here.
I want to tell you that they are. It's amazing
what's gone on there.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
You know you brought up or brunera, and you know
there's a there's a plant that's a shade plant that
you know, folks just don't know about. I mean, it's again,
that's one that we just got to get the word
out there more. Especially you know, if the deer eating
your hostas and you're looking for something else in that shade,
that's right there you go.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean, no, I don't mean to chuck the little
deer because they are a huge problem. They're just and again,
so ron I think I need your help to to
to read my new uh the new book that I'm
working on called Common Sense Gardening, and one of them
is what do I do about deer? And so it's
it's really really a tough situation. But you're right, choose plants.
(17:48):
Hopefully you can't choose some plants the deer aren't going
to go after unless they're starving to death. And something
like brunner or false forget me not, it's five ers
in the shade. It's colorful in the shade. It also
is something that if you happen to have a moist area.
It does very very well there as well, so I
thought that's a cool plant, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah, and great selections that are out there today. You're
absolutely right talking with doctor Allan Armitage again Alan Armony's
dot and that is the website. One last one before
we go here. You know, the the plant breeding that's
going on out there now with the glowing in the
dark plants, that firefly platunia. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Have you got some yet? You know? So for your listeners,
it's a it's a platunia that literally glows in the dark. Okay,
but and I say it, but I went in one
hundred percent skeptical, said come on, and I came out,
you know, maybe eighty percent skeptical. But it does. It's
it's really an interesting breaks I guess I only call
(18:45):
it break to a really interesting innovation and breeding. They
have this bioluminescence gene, so the little flower buds of
all the patunias in this particular one tend to glow.
But it has to be pitch black raw, and it
has to be really dark. I'm not sure that even
moon might be too bright. But I have some in
the garden here, so I'm going to get up at
(19:07):
two o'clock in the morning and see if I can
see them, or just it's fun to talk about, or.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Just stay up. Doctor Allan Armony's always a pleasure Again
his website, alanarmonist Net. I'm sure we will talk to
you more as we go through the spring season, Sir.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I can't wait. Thanks a lot, everybody, all the best.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
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