Ron speaks to Dr Armitage 7/6/2024

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in the garden with Ron Wilson.And as I promised, he is back
with us again. Who is he? You say? He is a professor
emeritus of Hordicks book Field guy tospecialty cut flowers. Don't forget about his
back pocket gardening app. It's thebest in the world. Armity Jap Great
garden Plants. He's traveling in theworld preaching the gospel of horticulture and his
passion for plants. He's gotten everyaward he could ever imagine. Ladies and

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gentlemen, we call him the Reverendnow Reverend doctor Alan Apple Armitage. It's
good to know Ron that you're goodto know that things are still the same.
I mean, I'm so pleased tohear from you again and to be

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here. We just got back fromfrom a little travel, so I'm happy
to be home, believe me,and to lee, I still got a
garden. Give them the fact thatthere's been hot as haities here, dry
as popcorn. It's amazing. Someof these plants are tougher than we on,
that's for sure. Well, youknow what I was going to ask
you. You know, you're inoutside hot of hot Atlanta, and as

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you look at your perennial garden rightnow, I mean, what's really standing
after you're saying, oh my god, I can't believe you looks so good.
Besides your wife, well she's inside, you know, she knows stupid
as I am. No, Itell you what, I had a small
garden, so you know it's it'sit's nice and it's quite manageable. But

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what looks good? A tar theyare in the perennial side anyway, the
car rex, you know, thosefalse glasses, they still look beautiful.
The hella bores that I've we've talkedabout in the spring, you know that
are flowering is long finished, butsome of the foliage is still still very,
very handsome. It's actually the newthe new hybrids, and of course

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of the native plants that everybody seemsto want and LUs after my summer flocks
are really hanging in there, reallyquite beautiful, and I you know,
it's just been too hot to haveany disease on them, so there's no
mildew. And but they they're verycolorful. And so I look around,

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I see the hostess. They arecolorful, and the flocks that are blooming
and occasionally a you know, arose here and there, but there's that's
actually I'm very pleased. So showsthat I don't know what I'm doing because
they're doing it by themselves. Weknow you you brought up you brought up
sedges and I think it was whattwo years ago at Mount Cuba did a

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lot of research trials with all thesedges and all and to me, I
think sedges are again way under usedin the landscape. There's so many great
sedges available that will take so manydifferent situations. Why do you think we
don't see sedges used a lot moreout there? I think we're seeing them
more, but still not being usedand utilized for the great plants that they

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are. They you know, theyhave a terrible name sedges sedges and I
don't know it sounds like a wedgeor something, but you know, sedges
are are just many of our natives, as you know, and they and
the breeding all these things both thepoint of view of the native material that

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you know, quite truthfully from thegarden perspective isn't as handsome at times as
some of the you know, theones from other lands which have more variegation
and more this and more of that. But boy or boy, they work,
and I think the landscapers have figuredthis out. I think the people
who are really looking for plants youcan count on that you know, have

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minimal amount of care. I thinkthe landscapers have figured this out that they
can put in carracks and particularly asthey are asked for native plants in their
design, and I think character reallyare. But uh, there's so much,
as you mentioned, there's so muchbeauty in some of these sedges for
the garden. I'm looking at acouple right now, just standing here,
and uh, they haven't asked foranything, I haven't given anything, and

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they still chime. So I thinkwe're getting there wrong. Just said that
name. I agree with you,So you're going to come up with another
name for him together. Carricks doesn'tcarry it either, so it's kind of
you know, it's got something anyway. But they're terrific plants. They really

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are. By the way, wewant to we want to know is that
bird sitting on your shoulder? AndI'm for you. I got a ton
of birds here, man, Yeah, you are all right, now,
that's not hard. But I bribedthem. I got food everywhere. You
know, they can't fly through hereat least stopping once the cargoes in the

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blue jays and all those googose thingsyou can well, and you know what,
when you talk about gardening, andof course I always say dinner and
a show to me. If youdo the right gardening and you've got all
those birds in there, you knowthey're doing some past control for you as
well. But again that dinner anda show. What a great thing to
have those birds in the background.It is, you know. And I'm

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not a birder because I you know, I I love birds and I love
them in my garden. I haven'ttramped through the wild to go see them
yet, but I probably will someday, you know, as we do as
you get older. But I knowit's good. It's a garden. You
have birds in the gardens, youcan I've got a lot of flowering things
that bring in the bees and thebutterflies and the pollinators and all those school

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things. But you know, theblue jays and the bluebirds, and the
cardinals and the wrens and the chickties, they're just they're just having fun here.
It's a it's a real it's fun. It's because it's your garden.
Talking with doctor Allan Armitage. Hiswebsite is Alan Armitage dot net. All
kinds of great information. Of course. You can find all his great books
there as well, and probably thebest, the best app gardening app you'll

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ever find uh. And it's calledthe Armity Jap. It's called Great Garden
Plants. Fits in your back pocketright there on your cell phone, and
you get all the answers you everneed. You won't need me once you
get his app. But it's availablefor you. It's expensive. It's four
dollars and ninety nine cents ladies andgentlemen, but it's well worth the five
bucks. Well, you know theapp. I just redid it and it's

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will hit you know if you Yeah, I redid it, so it actually
even makes more sense, I hope. And it's and it's easy to use,
and it's that five dollars is forever, it's not. I'm charging the
five bucks and then you know yougotta pay another few seemed to get the
real information. No matter. Youknow, it's it's there and it's good,
and you know it's an app.It's like a weather app. You
use it when you want to knowthe weather, but you know some of

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it. It's it's it's what itis. It's right there waiting for you.
And I'm very proud of it andvery pleased to have it out there.
I hope people take advantage of it. No arm aage membership if he
needed. That's a one time neal. And you're you're in Hey. You
just you've been doing a lot ofthe U trials, with the trials and
all of that trial gardens. Youjust sent me some pictures where you were
a little bit uh, you werein Alaska. Still on my bucket list

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as far as a trip to mywife and I've always wanted to do.
But when you're up there in Alaskaand you look at their gardens up there,
obviously a little bit cooler weather.When you look at Alaska, you
know, are you seeing the sameperennial things that we're seeing The plants being
used up there that we are beingused in Atlanta that you saw in Quebec.
Well, well, you know,yes, and no, of course

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they're they're you know, it's coldup there in the winter time and it's
a long winter, and so whenthings, you know get summer counts,
boy, these things just fly.So there's a ton of plants, care
acts for example, flocks for example. Now they're all there, veronicas and
hydrain you know some hydrange's not many, but they're there because you know,

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again I was at and I thinkI showed you and anybody who was out
there traveling and they like to goto a place like Alaska. They always
have botanical gardens in many of theseplaces, and Alaska Botanical Garden and Anchorage.
It's terrific. And you know it'sit's it's you know, it's not
Chicago Botanical Garden or it's you know, it's not Longwood, so to speak

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with, boy, it's terrific.And the people who are there are so
committed to you know, making thisa you know, kind of a world
class garden. So we saw someterrific frameals and things you would recognize for
sure, but then other things thatcertainly we can't grow, and I know
you can't grow either, like likethe Himalayan blue poppy. I mean,
you can try and grow them hereif you like, but they're probably not

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gonna make it. But they're they'rethey're doing great things there with poppies and
things of that link here. Interestingthat it was some great shots. I
showed my wife. She said,when are you ever going to take me
there? Like he took his wifethere. Yeah, I said, are
you in trouble that? Yeah,well you got me in trouble, so
I appreciate it. All right,we'll take a quick break talking with doctor
Alan Armitage. Of course, hiswebsite is Alan Armitage dot net. Got

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five KRC, the talk station.Welcome back. You're in the garden with
Ron Wilson special guests this morning.The doctor is in the house, doctor
Allen apple Armitage. We're not callhim reverend doctor Allen apple Armitage, as
he's out preaching the gospel of horticultureand the wonders of plants, and he's
with us this morning to give alittle sermon about plants and why you should

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be out planting. So you know, right now, as we start to
look in at the perennial gardens,a lot of perennials kind of losing that
big blast they had from the spring. Now we start looking at dead heading
and trying to keep them flowering andall that can be a very tough thing
to figure out how to do.If you're not familiar with dead heading.

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Well, first of all, boy, don't ever call me a preacher,
because I'm not very good at thesermonizing. But I sure you love to
sharing with you a few things Iknow with people, and I suppose dead
heading is one of those things thatnobody really understands what we're talking about.
Uh, you know, they canbod crane and all. But the fact
is that many of these plants thatonce they flower, well perennials are in

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particular, once they flower, theymay or may not flower again, depending
on the how these things are built. But if you want to try to
get them to flower again, yousimply take off the dead flower heads,
the dead heading part, and ifthe flowers, if the plants are going
to flower again, then they theythat's the best way to get going.

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And if they're not going to floweragain, they're going to look better anyway
because they're going to put the energyinto the foliage that remains, and the
foliage is still there and you wantthat to look as green and healthy as
possible. So dead and dead head. Let's face it, hold dead flower
as pretty as it was, itis not something you're going to show your
mother. So anyway, get ridof it. And dead heading isn't hurt,

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does not hurt the plant whatsoever.That's just normal, I tell you
one. And I've always had ahard time explaining to people how to do
is. One of my favorite perennialsis Becky Shasta daisy and dead heading Becky
is can be a little bit difficultsometimes, so it doesn't look like it's
kind of sheared off, and shewill reflower for you if you do it
properly. Well, it depends howmuch you know how. And I never

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want to take gardening seriously, butif you do things like you know,
helping Becky out, then you knowit's not it's not like it's it's going
to keep you up at night.So like when a plant like a shasti,
which has many stems and many floweringstems, some of those flowers are

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will be coming on while others,uh, you know, are are looking
pretty sad. Just get out thereif you feel like it, with your
with your little secutors or scissors andtake off those dead flowers. I mean,
if you cut the whole thing back, you're are including some of those
flowers yet to come. I guessyou can do that because more will come,
but you know those are. Itis tougher in that it's it's not

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a one stop cutback. You know, you have to do it over time,
but it makes it fin looks somuch better and makes you feel stronger.
You don't look, I've done whatI've done, and it looks so
much better. Yeah, that's agarden when we have fun and we try
to do it right, if thereis such a thing, but mostly you
try to do it to have fun. And of course if you ever have
questions about that and you're not sure, all you have to do is reach
in your back pocket, pull outyour cell phone and pull up doctor Armidy.

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Jas have great garden plans. It'lltell you all about just about anything
you ever wanted to know, andmore about what you're doing out there in
the garden. And again you canfind out on his website. It's Alan
Arminage dot net. I thought ofyou this week because I got the announcement
of the Association of specially cut flowergrowers cut Flowers of the Year, and
of course you have your your latestbook out of course of the Field Guide,

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especially cut Flowers, which is outstanding. Did you see the winners for
twenty twenty four I have not.I have not. I have not.
Whoo who won the race for thefor the fresh cut flower of the year.
It's snapdragon apple blossom, which isa is a pretty cool snap dragon.
I didn't I didn't know they usethese in the cut in arrangements.

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But it's Joan Jay raspberry what peopleuse. I read that I kind of
will say, what say? Hey, you know there there is no stopping
creativity these days, if there everwas. I mean, and people who
are listening are just gardeners and wantto bring flowers in. There's nothing you

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can't bring in, whether it bea raspberry or a hellibore or a flox.
Here's the deal with cut flowers forthe gardener. I actually, Kurt
or anybody truth. If you're goingto cut something, try and cut it
in, Okay, So you gotsomething happening this evening, try and cut
it in the morning or before itgets hot. And if you can cut

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the stem so it isn't all thatlong. A short stem takes up water
far more readily than a long stem. So you know, make a stem
short enough that, if possible,when you cut the stem, put it
in warm to hot water, andthen if you can, if it's not
such a long stem, put ina refrigerator. So if you can do

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this, so the warm water goesup quickly and the refrigerator stops it from
leaving the plant. And so whenyou bring them out at four o'clock or
whenever you take them to your neighborlater on or whatever, they are in
perfect shape. So I don't careif it's a raspberry or what it is.
If you can do that. Sometimeswe try and cut the stem so

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long that you know, your wifedivorces you because she opens a fridge and
there's flowers falling over the place.But if it's just you know, if
you can keep your short enough toput them in the fridge with your wine,
then you know that's the way tokeep cut flowers going. And I
love cutting flowers for my garden.So then what you're saying is I should
take my wine bottle out into thegarden with me when I'm making the cuts
and use that to measure well,you know that'd be a good idea.

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I hadn't thought of that. Wrongsthat zip cup sip cut. Yeah,
I mean, if you drink yourwine, your garden looks so much better.
You know, the boy you drink, the better it looks. So
uh. I knew you'd have agreat answer for that. I knew you
would. And by the way,we are the woody plant, the woody

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plant of the the for cut flowersis brandy wine by Burnham. M I
mean, and that that's a finechoice. And that's not dragging is a
fine choice too. It's not dragonjust to go to pick a zenia.
But you know they their go toplants. They work with anything. And
by Burnham, you know, yougot foliage a lot of these plants,

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and we thinks cut flowers are actuallyeven better is cut foliage because of foliage
enhances what's already in the vaz orin the you know, arrangement or whatever.
And you've got fruit as well.And by burning, so that's that's
that's a good choice. Yeah.And if the foliage is outstanding, and
no matter when you cut it,it's gonna give you some good show.
Talking with doctor Allan Armitage again.His website is Alan Armitage dot net.

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UH don't forget all his great books, including the Herbaceous Perennial Plants. It's
the fourth edition. It is theBible when it comes to UH learning more
about perennials. Of course, hislatest field guide especially Cut the Flowers by
the way. I just I recommendedthe UH of Naked Ladies and Forget Me
Nots to a couple of people lastweek. They were looking for these gifts,

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I think for bridesbase or something,and I said, oh, you
got to get them these books.They'll absolutely love the the books. So
and that's that's one of those easyreads that anytime I recommend that to somebody,
they thanked me two or three timesfor that one because they absolutely love
it. Well, it's fun.It's a fun book to write and a
fun book to read. And thenice thing about it's a story book,
isn't it? Stories of how plantsget their names. The nice thing about

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stories is people enjoy sharing stories.And you know, once you share a
story, then you've left your legacywith that person who's going to share it
again. And that's why I didthose that book and other books I've done
that are kind of story time.They tell a story that I think we
all would like to know and sometimeswe should know, but mostly because ye

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stories are fun. Let's let's notget too serious here, all right.
So now you're going to be onthe road here I think in another week
or so, back out on theroad again, headed to Columbus, Ohio.
I am. Yeah. There's thatbig show that the horticultural work Cusure
hor culture people put on called Cultivate. It's in Commas, Ohio. It's

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next weekend, well Saturday, Sunday, Monday, tuesdaysh And I'll be there
for a couple of days and hopei'll see you or anybody else who happens
to be listening to the show orcan say hello. I'll be hanging out
and here and there. So I'mgiving a couple of talks, even Ron
so boy oh boy, they actuallycan see that I've actually existed. Yeah,

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I'll be there, and it's it'sa great show and I'm looking forward
to it good and we're looking forwardto having there. And one last question
I have for you in your gardenis we look out there right before you
came on, we had our herbspecialists on Rita Hikenfeld. And I'm just
curious. Do you grow your ownherbs? Do I grow my own herbs?
I grow my own basil. Ithings like like like lavenders and things

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like that, but I don't haveenough space. But I love them.
So the more I have, themore I get. And I even throw
nepig in there's an herb, soyes, I do grow something. I
agree with that one too, DoctorAllen Armony's always a pleasure. Is website
again, Alan armities dot net.Have a great weekend, sir, and
we hope to see up and Columbus. It that cultivate next weekend. All

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right, takes care everybody, Thanksyou, all right, Doctor Allan Armities
again. His website is alan armoniesdot net. Is that app great garden
plants, absolutely outstanding. Put onyour cell phone. You've got lots of
answers there for you while you're rightout in the garden. Her Ancients Perennial
Plans, fourth Edition. It's theBible on Perennials. Gotta check it out.
Field Guide to Specialty cut Flowers ifyou want to grow cut flowers,
and everybody's starting to do that now. That's the book for you. That's

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