November 9, 2024 • 44 mins
Your calls and tips with Ron. We also talk all things bulbs with Peggy Anne Montgomery.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Good morning everybody, Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson. You're in
the garden. If you'd like to join us, love to
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five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your personal
yard boy. I'm all excited because it's gonna rain tonight
and tomorrow. I mean, it looks like a really strong chance.
(00:49):
And I even hate saying it because I don't want
to jinxus, but nah, just looking at everything they've said
so far, it looks like it's a pretty strong chance.
So hopefully we'll get some rain coming through you tonight tomorrow.
Hopefully we will they get to, you know, get some
moisture back in the ground still extremely dry. Yes, hollylujah,
and we need it badly. This is a this is
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a very very important time right now. Seriously, I'm saying
this every Saturday, keeping those plants watered, especially the evergreens
went out this week. I've looked at a lot of
evergreens that are taking it on the chin because of
the lack of moisture. And I'm gonna be perfectly honest
with you when i tell you this story because it
involves me at our at our nursery, the nursery I
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work with, and they have a retail, and they have
a parking lot and there's a planting islands in the
parking lot. Planting islands are horrible, right and even when
this thing was built. I mean, the islands are fairly wide,
they're twelve to fifteen feet in most areas, but they're
only about twenty four inches deep with soil and it's
gravel underneath. And so it's like container gardening. And we've
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got trees in those and we water on a regular
basis and and in one area we have a green
planting of emerald green arborvity. Really far apart, they're probably
on I don't know, eight to ten foot centers, so
they're individuals through this planting bed and then we have
a mass plant thing of we don't wake up, remember
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which one we use spring grove or green giant arborviding,
And there's five of them and they're staggered, you know,
probably about again eight foot centers or so. So they've grown,
they've been there for ten years, grown together very nicely,
formed this nice solid hedge, and they're about twenty five
feet high and they're gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous. So when folks
come in they can see what they look like when
they're buying smaller to the smaller evergreens. And of course,
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as we went through this summer, you know watering where
you're focused on watering the nursery plants, things that you're
growing for resale and things like that. So we weren't
really that concentrated on watering these the traffic islands, although
they did get a couple waterings here and there, but
not very much, and it was very concerning. But you know,
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we had to we water from lakes and all, so
we have to make sure everything else gets taken care of,
and so they kind of took a back seat, and
we've gone through this before, we've had dry situations, but
and then we got a little bit of rain and
then it went right back into the dry again in
the second time, and we did water again once or twice,
but not much and coming back in through that second
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when all of a sudden, about two weeks ago, we
could start to see them losing color and they're starting
to have pieces throughout the plant that's starting to decline.
And that's the bottom line is this. It's the lack
of oysture, and it's our fault, and there's no doubt
about it. We all know that it was not a
sacrifice that we did, but we had to water plants
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that we were growing in the nursery for retail sales
and all. So they just got slidered a little bit.
And that just shows you what happens. And we're in
the business and we water and do try to take
care and keep our facilities looking great as well. But
you know, their situation where they were really under a
lot of stress because of the limited area and when
it does rain, these things are the planting acts as
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an umbrella. Sometimes you know, if it rains, it just
doesn't go penetrate down through kind of runs down the outside.
And so you know, the ones that were individually planted
on their own, not a problem. They look great. They've
got plenty of soil there, and we're able to pull
in enough moisture. They still look very good. But the
ones that were really tight together where the moisture just
didn't really penetrate in, we're losing them and they're big,
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and it's unfortunate, and I think we're gonna wind up
having to take them out. We'll see, it's hard to
correct when an evergreens starts to do that. Typically you
can't correct it. And and be honest with you, and
a lot of times we'll see folks that'll send us
pictures or I'll go look at these trees, and unfortunately,
when there's a point where you just can't correct it,
it just doesn't stop. With evergreens. Deciduous plants sometimes you
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can cut them back and they flush back up again,
but evergreen's not so much. So again, you know, I'm
being honest with you, it does happen. It happened for
us there in a tough situation because it was in
that planting island. But we should have been on top
of it. Unfortunately taking care of the rest of the plants,
weren't able to do it, and we're gonna lose. I
think we're gonna lose all of them. So it's important
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for you to continue to water protect your investment in
your landscapes, you know. And again we're gonna be talking
about this right up until Christmas unless it continues to
rain and you know settles in I we get good rainfall,
and you may hear me saying in January and February,
hook up the hose and get out there and water
some of those newly planted evergreens if it stays that dry.
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So there you go to the Guardian phone lines. We
shall go at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five Evelyn and Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Good morning, Oh, good morning, ron. I just wanted to
remind everybody that kicks, especially those little line disease takes,
to not hydrinate. They're swaller. The ones in the fall
might be a little bit bigger, they might not be
as tiny as in the springs, but they do send
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out their feelers and want to flat on for a
blood meal. So when you go on those hikes or
jumping the leaves. Remember they watched to they feel the
heat from your body. Everybody should protect themselves.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I just want to tell you something evilin I know
you and we are we appreciate you when you call
because you are a tick awareness Reminder that now when
I walk through the woods in the fall, thinking, you know,
well it's fall, things have all shut down. I'm walking
through the leaves having a grand old time. I still
remember that. Edlin says, got to remind everybody those ticks
are still very active. They don't go dormant, so you've
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still got to protect And I think you but you
you know, you've got to protect yourself. And that's I'm
enjoying walking through the leaves. But nevertheless, they're still out there.
They like she said, they ticks don't go dormant, so
you've got to still protect yourself, even out in the woods.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Right now, right, thanks Ron?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
All Right, what is the website that you always recommend?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh, yes, it's Global Lime Alliance or Tick Encounter or
you know the CDC has a lot about lime disease
and the amazing I always say, if you find a tick,
save it in a little plastic bag so it can
be identified and then if you feel shack, if it
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was on you or somebody, you go to the doctor
and you say I want a test for lime disease.
You don't ask some whether you could have one. You
just politely say I want the test.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's not one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Accurate, but quite good, and then they can give you
the medication, which is an antibiotic to the disease.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Right, So, if you're out working in the landscape, you're
out in the yard, you're walking through the woods, just
do a little forest bathing and enjoying the fall season.
Don't forget those ticks are still very active. Make sure
you expect yourself when it's all said and done at
the end of the day. Evlon always a great tip.
We appreciate that and appreciate you. Rose in Ohio, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I have a couple questions. Alrighty Number one, when can
I cut back my clematis to get it to train
to go on at Trella's.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Uh, do you know what kind of have.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Fall blooming?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So? So oh anytime you know is it probably still
has all the leaves on it yet?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Right, yes, it's all green and beautiful yet yeah, and
then little.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Seed on it yep.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And I love those seed pods. It look like a
bunch of spiders all over that thing.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
They do.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Typically, we will wait until it starts to shut down,
where you start to see the leaves starting to get
a little bit more of a golden collar and start
to drop, and it's usually very late in the season,
and then you can do it at that point, or
you can just let it ride over the winter and
then rose go out in the springtime before it starts
to regrow and cut it back at that time. So
you got two options there. Either one doesn't matter, but
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the whole goal is the fact that it flowers on
new growth, so you cut it back. So the new
growth is what comes out in the springtime and that's
where you get your flower. So it's up to you
if you can leave it alone and just leave it
like it is over the winter, leave it go and
enjoy it, but then get out there in the early
spring before it starts to regrow and cut it back
at that point.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And the other question is I have a young mimosa
and I have deer in my front yard, and when
it got planted, I put chicken netting wire over the
top of it. And what's not about three feet high.
(10:01):
I didn't take the wire off. I still wanted it protected,
and it started going under the chicken wire and horizontally,
and now it's about three feet tall and four feet wide.
I want to know if I should cut that four
feet off or if I should try to straighten it
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up and put a post by it and make it
go up instead of horizontally.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Is that piece that's going off to the side, is
that like the central leader. Is that coming off the
main trunk?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
It's the main trunk, then I.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Would I would say yeah, And I don't know that
I would do that at this stage in the game.
I think I'd go through the winner, and then I
would look to bring that back up in the springtime
and do it at that point. I mean you could
do it now, I guess, and pull it back up
if you wanted to. But either way, but yes, you
could do that, and you can. You could pull it
back up, you know, using a stick in the ground
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with a tie and pull it back, or maybe by
putting a steak right down beside the main trunk and
bringing it back and twist, you know, using the garden
ties and tying it onto that steak may work for
you too. If you feel like it might break as
you're pulling it back up, you may have to do
it over a couple period, you know, a couple couple adjustments,
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pull it as best you can, let it sit there
for a while, give it about, you know, four or
five months, and then bring it back up and from
there and maybe do it over that period of time
so that you don't snap it. But they're fairly flexible.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Okay, then, thank you very much, Art.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
All right, thank you, good talking with you. I really
appreciate the call. And uh, yeah, it's a you know,
if you was going to bring this up real quick.
We were talking to the lady before we went to the
top of the hour about our plants leaking, and I
couldn't think of the name of it. It's a guttation
g U T T A T I O N gutation
or guttation gutation. But it's it's basically a build up
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of moisture where the leaf just doesn't it doesn't evaporate
out of the leaf, so the leaf has this ability
to open up and just kind of push that out.
And that's what that is. And it's not again, not
a disease, not an is insect not an issue. But
when the moisture levels are high in the soil and
sometimes high in humidity in the house too, and it
just doesn't evaporate very well. Sometimes it'll just it'll do
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that just to correct the amount of water pressure. That's
one side that leaf. But it's called gutation or guttation,
gut t at io win. I could not think of
that name. You learned that way back in the college days.
So there you go. All right, take quick break, we
come back. We'll continue talking about yardening. Coming up the
bottom of the hour, Peggy and Montgomery, we're going to
talk about spring flowering balls, how she cheats to trick
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them into flowering early. Here in the garden with Ron
Wilson help So do.
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Speaker 1 (16:08):
Welcome back, You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
that toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five talking about yardening of course, if you're
doing soil amendments to your vegetable gardens, your containers, getting
you know, prepped for next year, don't forget those wool atts.
Remembers talking about the wool pellets as a soil amendment
helps to hold moisture for you, kind of like using
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course the nutritional value and all that. I'm really curious
to see. And I've talked to the folks at Woolletz.
They said quite a few folks have jumped on some
of the smaller packages to use for like container gardening
or small gardens, just to experiment a little bit with.
If you do that, let me know, we'll compare notes,
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because I plan on using that in some of my
containers next year, and a couple of raised beds as well,
see if I can tell a difference. But again, and
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Not only that, can you imagine all the questions I
have stored up.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You know what? Dan even said this, No, I can't,
but Dan and even said this morning something about, you know,
there's a couple of people that used to call us
on a regular basis. We haven't heard from Anne for
a long time. I hope Ann's okay. And there you are?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
How sweet?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, so Danny, Danny was thinking about you. I have
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Speaker 5 (17:44):
I think about Danny a lot too, well, probably more
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
Now he's now, he's blushing now, he embarrassed him. So
how's how's the weather in Virginia? Are you guys as
dry as we are here in Ohio?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, but it's been a phenomenal summer it has been.
I mean I haven't even vacationed in places with whether
it's great it has been beautiful.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well good for you, but but but dry? Still? I mean,
have you gotten oh dry?
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I got a note from the water company asking if
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Speaker 1 (18:21):
I love it. How's our friends that stands Garden Center?
Speaker 5 (18:27):
I haven't been in there forever and I really need
to go because I'm thinking maybe they discount their seeds
or something. Oh that's what I was going to ask you,
what do you do with all your plants at the
end of the season that don't get purchased.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Those all get put away. We have, like the nurseries,
have hoop houses, greenhouses that are unheated. Some of them
are heated depending on what goes in there. But a
lot of those plants all just get cut back, like
the perennials, will just get cut back and then put
inside there and stored away over the winter, kept dormant then.
And of course said in the springtime, with the houses
being covered, they warm up quicker, they'll start to break
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out a little bit earlier than usual, and then we
open them up and vent them and then it goes
right back into production. So a lot of that nursery stock,
if you have a place to put it, like we
do because we have a nursery, can just go back in. Now.
Some garden centers that don't have an area to do that,
their whole goal is to try to sell out. That's
why sometimes they'll have big sales at the end of
the season to get rid of the inventory, because then
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I'm a place to overwinter it, you know, besides healing
it in somewhere. So if you if you've got those
hoop houses, you know, it's no big deal. You just
put them put them in the hoop house, let them go,
dorm it, bring them back out in the spring, and
fire them back up again.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
What about seed packages?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Seed packs, you know, typically the seed companies have to
relabel those, so they either come and get those and
take them back, or because they have to be they
have an expiration date on there and trust the germination rates.
So they either come and take those back if they're
on consignment and redo them, or if you've got them,
you typically have to get rid of them through a
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certain amount of time, and sometimes those become donations to
local communities and that uh huh if you can't get
rid of them. So yeah, but that's they have to
be re retested for the germination rate, and there's usually
a year and a half period on earlier so that
they're good. But otherwise there is an expiration data. Most
of seed facts running out of time. Man, We're glad
you called. Glad you heard from you, knowing that you're okay,
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keep in touch with us, okay, all right, take care
and from Virginia coming up next, Peggy and Montgomery We're
going to talk about flowering bulbs and what she does
to cheat to make him flower early. Here in the
garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (22:54):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. I
told you I was fired up this morning because a
couple of reasons is it looks like we're actually gonna
get some rainfall. I mean, the chances of us getting
some rainfall is really really strong. So we're all singing
hallelujah tonight, tomorrow and maybe even into Monday morning. We
will take it. Our plants will take it. So that's
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got me fired up. Of course, she's doing the show
gets me fired up. But secondly, our special guest this
morning always gets me fired up because he's so much
fun to have on our show. That's why she's on
on a regular basis. We talk about bulbs and all
kinds of great things. And today we're going to talk
about how she cheats with her bulbs. I don't know,
that's what she told me. We're gonna find out what
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she means ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only. Peggy
and Montgomery. Good morning, Good morning, Good Morgan. I am
great in you.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I'm terrific, but I want a little bit of your rain.
We are in a severe drought in Delaware.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Well see we are too, We're right with you. We
haven't had anything. We had the one of the driest
October's on recorded history, and we're just carrying it right
into November. So they're actually calling for a fairly strong
chance of our entire area getting rained tonight and tomorrow,
So we will take it. We're all excited. Yeah, you well,
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and I hope it comes your way as well.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
U me too.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
All right, so let's talk about flowering balls. First of all,
I'm a big container gardening, and one of the many
reasons is because it affords anybody the opportunity to do
some type of gardening, and whether you live in an apartment, condo,
whatever it may be, even and that pretty much covers
almost anything that goes on in the yard can be
done in a container, even spring flowering bulbs, even summer
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flowering balls, which you and I have talked about in
the past. And one of the cool things I think
that folks can do with spring flowering bulbs. We're talking
about tulips and daffodils and crocus and all of those.
Is creating an actual spring garden in a larger container
that would give you a com domination of all of
those and flowering pretty much from the beginning late winter,
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early spring right on through the spring season.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, Ron, that is so fun. Peri's a term. It's
called lasagna planting, and this is a blast. It's just
like lasagna, all in layers. So you have your big
container out there, you plant your tulips, you know, the
latest blooming flowers first. So the tubes go in first,
another layer of soil, some daffodilts, another layer of soil,
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maybe some great hyacinths or dwarf iris another layer of soil.
And then you can get some snowdrops and crocus in
there too. And so that's actually going to bloom in
sequence for many weeks or months now.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So if folks do this, and I'm assuming once we
do this, we're gonna put a little maybe a little
baldfood in there with them. They'll feed them through this
whole process.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, I do. I always give them a little bit
of in our bulk fertilizer that helps them get their
roots down and establish themselves for winter. It's you know,
it will probably work without, but you know, if you're
going to go to the trouble, why not buy a
little insurance, right.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So, So and we're talking, we're talking big pots. The
wider the pot, you know, the more you're going to
be able to really create a nice garden. And what
probably fifteen inches deep would be more than enough.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, that would be great. The bigger the better, you know,
go bigger, go home, as they say. But yeah, the
bigger ones that really are better, you can just do
more and the flower show is going to be bigger
and bring you more joy.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
All right. So we've got this thing planted, so we're
going to water it on a off and on basis
through the rest of the fall season. Do I need
to do anything to protect that or can I just
leave us sitting out on the deck over the winter
and let it do its thing in the spring.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know, there's a couple of ways to look at that,
and that of course depends on where you are in
the country. I mean, it's very different from Minnesota to Mississippi.
So if you know kind of a general rule of
thumb for leaving anything outdoors in a pot is that
they should be hearty to two zones warmer than you are.
So for instance, here for me in the mid Atlantic,
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we're zone seven. So if I'm going to leave anything
outside in pots, it should be hearty to zone five.
So there's a couple of ways. You can put them
in your garage if it's a little too cold, you think,
or in a protected area of the garden and maybe
put some chicken wire over the top and cover them
with leaves. That provides support and the chicken wire will
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keep the squirrels out. But for most places that should.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Work all right. And I think that's a good point too,
because we all know squirrels and other critters enjoy those
some of those bulbs anyway, not all of them, but
some of them, and of course they would dig in
there just to find out what you did because of
the curiosity. So exactly is that recommended for the most part,
Maybe to put a nylon netting or a chicken wire
on the top and we're done planting those up, because
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those bulbs can just grow up through.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That, right, Yeah, they certainly can. And you could just
put the chicken wire out, maybe put a little mulch
over the top, and you wouldn't even see it. But
those little devils, they don't care if they want to
eat them or not. They're still going to dig them
up just for the heck of it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah. I just think they just do it to make
you mad.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I think they do because they looking at you the
whole time they're digging it, because you don't scare them,
And then they just keep digging and saying, look what
I'm doing, Come and get me.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Exactly, they are devils.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Talking about our good bull friend Peggy and Montgomery. The
website that you want to check out is flower bulb
dot eu. That's flowerbulb dot eu talking about doing spring
flowering bulbs and containers. Very easy to do now. Folks
can also take step that down and put those in
smaller pots if they're out right now. Sometimes you'll find
some of the bulbs on sale in your garden centers
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trying to kind of clean things out. She can kind
of scarf ups a lot of balls for pretty good price.
You can also do those absolutely individually, and containers like
just pots of crocus or pots of uh snowdrops or
pots of tulips or pots of daffodils. You can do
the same thing. And just like we were talking earlier,
just over one of those in an unheeded garage or
no need to shed or window well and bring those
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out in the springtime too.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Absolutely, And I'll tell you what a little pot of
snowdrops or crocus, you know, are just so special in
the dark days of winter to have something like that
blooming in your home. And what bitter gift could you
give to your friends and loved ones, you know, with
the spring holidays.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Maybe Oh yeah, absolutely, Now a quick question, it's it's
a ball, but it's not one of our spring flying
bulbs Amarillis bulbs, are you do? You do a lot
of Amarillis bulbs for winter color?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Absolutely? And I always have. My mom loved amarillis, so
I've been planting those and giving those as Chris miss
gifts for Oh I don't know how many decades run.
But you know, they're so easy to grow, they're absolutely
full proof. They're super cool for kids because they grow
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so fast. I mean, once they get going, they just
grow so quickly and they are big and bold and beautiful.
They come in all different colors and fully double forms.
And again they're just so fun to watch and so beautiful,
you know, in these dark days. I don't know about you,
but it's dark yere by five o'clock now.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But but believe it or not, Peggy, and this is
my favorite time of the year. I like this time
time better than the daylight saving time.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Do you really have to come?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I don't know something about I just like this is like,
this is it? This is like it's you know, the
normal time for me. And for some reason, I do
like it when we fall back in the springtime in
the fall, I you know, and I get it, and
I just I adjust to both of them. It doesn't matter,
but I do like this one of the best. But
you're right. And the thing I like about the amarillis
and people get tired of hearing me say this too,
but you get two thank yous out of that when
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you give it as a gift. You get to thank
you when you give them the like if you get
them the kit, you get them a thank you and
they're like, thank you. That's a very nice. But you
get a second call when they're in flower because because
in they're like, thank you, for this beautiful flower you
gave me six weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's so fun. Ron, I just veiled I guess about
fifteen bulbs to people that I work with throughout the year,
to say thank you for all of the work that
they've done and to wish them happy holidays. And for
folks that have never grown in Amarillis before, it's hysterical.
They keep sending me pictures like every few weeks, like
look how tall it is and there's color and it's
(31:41):
gonna bloom suit and it's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh, it is, no doubt about it. Talk about Peggy
and Montgomery. She's one of our favorites that we love
having on our show. The website, of course, you want
to check it out is flowerbub dot Eu. We're gonna
take a break. We're gonna find out how she cheats
forcing bulbs. We'll find out what she means about that.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (33:58):
Welcome back, You're in the garden with on Wilson's Special
Guests this morning. We always have so much fun with her.
Peggy and Montgomery talking about Babs and we're talking about
spring flowering balls. We just kind of broke off on
some Amarillis bulbs there for a second. There's so many
balls to talk about there. It's crazy. But there's a
scandal going on right now, Peggy and Montgomery that says
that you cheat on your bulbs and you trick them
(34:20):
into flowering sooner. How do you address that? Stondal?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's terrible, But you know what, probably, like most of
your listeners, I have a busy life, and if you
want to really force bulbs for the winter, you've got
to start now and get them a cold treatment. They
need to have a cold treatment like they would in nature.
So they go into your refrigerator, but not buy your
fruits and vegetables because they release ethylene, or in your
(34:46):
beer fridge or in your garage. And if you have
twelve weeks of patience to wait for them, they will
come up and they will flower and you will be
so proud of yourself. But this time of year, honestly,
I never get to it. And so I do have
a couple of ways of cheating.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
All right. Well, Number one is to just go online
and buy pre chilled bulbs, and it's super simple. At
flower Bulbs EU. We don't sell anything. We're inspiration and education,
but you could just google pre chilled bulbs and you'll
find places where you can buy them where the experts
have already put them through that cold period and all
(35:26):
you have to do is pot them up and wait
for the flowers to bloom. So that's one way I
do it. I personally have a lot of bulbs in
the yard, and so in early spring, January and February,
when I start to see them come up, I'm not
above digging them right up out of the garden and
putting them in a little pot, for instance, to bring
(35:48):
to my mother in law who's in a nursing home
now and she just loves them. And the other thing
you can do I love that this is getting more widespread,
is you can buy spring flowering already potted up in
most every garden center, and so you can take those
and you can make a little decorative arrangement to bring
(36:09):
in the house or to put on your front steps,
or to give his gifts. So those are the kind
of the three cheating methods I use.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So it's true that you do cheat to trick your babs.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Absolutely, and I'm proud of it, she says.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And I'm proud of it. Yes, indeed, Peggy and Montgomery,
that's exactly what I would expect to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Talking about the spring flowering bulbs and of course ways
that you can cheat. And you know a lot of
times that garden centers when they get their bulbs done
in the fall for the fall season, occasionally we'll get
in some of the pre chilled hyacinths and a few
of those, and that's what those are all about, so
that you can buy those in November or October or whatever.
(36:55):
They're already chilled and ready to go. You pot those
up and you've got something for the holiday season or
during the winter time as well.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Absolutely, And if you like the fragrance, and I do,
hyacinths are a great bulb to grow in water. A
lot of times they will come in like a little
glass space that holds the bulb and the roots can
go down into the water. You can do the same
with paper whites, which I love because again I just
love the fragrance of paper whites. So actually am realist.
(37:24):
Paper whites and hyacinths. You can all grow in water.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
You know the thing about that? And I like the
smell of paper whites. A lot of folks just say
I cannot take that, that pungent smell way, and it's
pretty strong. But I really enjoy that. And of course hyacinths.
When I smell hyacins, if you put a little bit
of mulch in the background smell, I think of Home
and Garden shows.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Oh that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Because everybody's got a hiasis. And that's that's like says spring.
You hear, you smell the mulch, the fresh mulch, and
you smell the hyacinths, and you know spring is right
around the corner.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You know, that's a million million dollar idea around You
should put that in a model at sell it.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
He thinks have a little candle next to the hyacinths
in mulch. You know they do have one. It's a
tomato tomato vine. Really, why would you want to smell
like it? I don't know. I don't like the smell
of tatomize. No, I don't know. But it's out there,
somebody can buy it. Talk about Peggy amagermy course. The
website is flowerbulb dot eu. It's an informational website that
(38:27):
has so much great Information's phenomenal flower bulb dot eu.
You'll learn so much and of course we always have
so much fun having Peggy on with us as well. Uh,
maybe when we get close to the holidays, we you
and I can kind of talk about amarillas and paper
whites and the highest it's especially the amarillis because then
a lot of folks are gonna have the question what
do I do with it? After us done flowering? And
(38:49):
they're really not that hard to continue to grow and
to try to get them to flower next year, and
maybe we can share some of your secrets for how
you get yours to flower the following year.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I love to be on your show again. I love
your show run.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
You know that well, we love having you on.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I've got a question has nothing to do with the balls. Okay,
last week we had a recipe on our show from
our herbalist and she's also she's a great chef and
has all kinds of recipes, and she had a recipe
for making apple butter and as I started doing the
research on apple butter was brought to the United States
(39:26):
way back when from the Pennsylvania Dutch. Was that something.
Did you grow up with apple butter in Holland and
all or not? Really?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Well?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
You know, actually I was born in Minnesota and there
is always apple butter in the fall. And you know,
I lived in the Netherlands for fifteen years, so actually
we didn't have it. I lived way up north, so
we didn't have apple butter. But people eat a lot
of apple sauce. Kids eat apple sauce at every dinner.
(39:57):
They put it on everything. So I used to have
to put up a lot of apple sauce in the fall.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So you did that, did the apple sauce and not
the apple butter right right?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
And especially for children, they all love it. And I'm
so excited. Ron in two weeks, I'm going back to
Holland to see my kids and grandkids.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Well, congratulations, Now you going to be there for the
for a period of time or just a quick visit.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
It's kind of a quick visit because you know, they
have a little different Christmas. And Saint Nicholas is arriving
on a steamship from Spain, which is hysterical. So we're
going to be there when his boat comes into the
village where my grandchildren are, and we'll all be out
there to welcome him.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Actually, Center Klaus.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, Center Class, Center Klaus again.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You know I've told you the story about our friends
that were from Holland and we learned so much from them,
was unbelieabled, Center Claus. But I just remember the kids
were celebrating, Center Class. It was like it was early December, right.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Actually, he comes into Amsterdam, I think on the eighteenth,
so he'll be up in the village where we are
the week after, and then he stays in the Netherlands
until his birthday on December sixth.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Got it, got it? I love it, Center Claus. What
a great story. Peggy and Montgomery. We always have fun
with you. We always enjoy having you on our show. Again.
The website is flowerbulb dot Eu. You'll learn more about it.
And now you know how Peggy and Montgomery cheats and
tricks her flowers flower bulbs into flowering earlier, so we
got some color over the winter and very early spring.
(41:30):
Always a pleasure. We'll get together for the holidays. We'll
talk about holiday bulbs.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
What do you say that sounds great? Thank you so much, Ron.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Thank you good talking with you, Peggy and Montgomery again.
The website is a flower Bulb dot eu and you
will find Amberillist kids out there right now. And you
know what we're talking with her about. The hyacinth. I've
always talked about the Ammarillis kits and the paper white kits,
and they'll be out there for you too. There used
to always be and I'm thinking real hard see it anymore.
(42:00):
The hyacinth kit used to be out there as well,
and I don't think I see that hardly at all
in garden centers anymore. I forgot all about that. And
they would the hyacinth bulbs can be grown in the gravel,
just like the paper whites are typically grown. You just
kind of nestle them in so the water just touches
the bottom of the ball and into the roots. And
paper whites or amrose can be done the same way.
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And you would get this glass that the hyacinth would
sit in the top of the glass and then you
would fill the water up to the bottom. Was like
a little pear shaped figure shaped, hourglass shaped. I'm trying
to think of what it is a container that the
water was in the bottom and the highest and set
on the top, and we would get pre chilled hyacinths.
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And I was just that was all running through my
brain while we were talking there, and I don't think
I've seen that in a long time in the garden centers.
But that's another really cool one that used to be
used a lot for the holiday seasons and of course
forcing through the winter time as well, because you can't
you just can't beat the smell of flowering hyacinths for spring.
All right, there you go, Peggy Montgomery. Always a pleasure.
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five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your personal
yard boy. I'm all excited because it's gonna rain tonight
and tomorrow. I mean, it looks like a really strong chance.
(00:49):
And I even hate saying it because I don't want
to jinxus, but nah, just looking at everything they've said
so far, it looks like it's a pretty strong chance.
So hopefully we'll get some rain coming through you tonight tomorrow.
Hopefully we will they get to, you know, get some
moisture back in the ground still extremely dry. Yes, hollylujah,
and we need it badly. This is a this is
(01:11):
a very very important time right now. Seriously, I'm saying
this every Saturday, keeping those plants watered, especially the evergreens
went out this week. I've looked at a lot of
evergreens that are taking it on the chin because of
the lack of moisture. And I'm gonna be perfectly honest
with you when i tell you this story because it
involves me at our at our nursery, the nursery I
(01:34):
work with, and they have a retail, and they have
a parking lot and there's a planting islands in the
parking lot. Planting islands are horrible, right and even when
this thing was built. I mean, the islands are fairly wide,
they're twelve to fifteen feet in most areas, but they're
only about twenty four inches deep with soil and it's
gravel underneath. And so it's like container gardening. And we've
(01:54):
got trees in those and we water on a regular
basis and and in one area we have a green
planting of emerald green arborvity. Really far apart, they're probably
on I don't know, eight to ten foot centers, so
they're individuals through this planting bed and then we have
a mass plant thing of we don't wake up, remember
(02:15):
which one we use spring grove or green giant arborviding,
And there's five of them and they're staggered, you know,
probably about again eight foot centers or so. So they've grown,
they've been there for ten years, grown together very nicely,
formed this nice solid hedge, and they're about twenty five
feet high and they're gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous. So when folks
come in they can see what they look like when
they're buying smaller to the smaller evergreens. And of course,
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as we went through this summer, you know watering where
you're focused on watering the nursery plants, things that you're
growing for resale and things like that. So we weren't
really that concentrated on watering these the traffic islands, although
they did get a couple waterings here and there, but
not very much, and it was very concerning. But you know,
(02:59):
we had to we water from lakes and all, so
we have to make sure everything else gets taken care of,
and so they kind of took a back seat, and
we've gone through this before, we've had dry situations, but
and then we got a little bit of rain and
then it went right back into the dry again in
the second time, and we did water again once or twice,
but not much and coming back in through that second
(03:21):
when all of a sudden, about two weeks ago, we
could start to see them losing color and they're starting
to have pieces throughout the plant that's starting to decline.
And that's the bottom line is this. It's the lack
of oysture, and it's our fault, and there's no doubt
about it. We all know that it was not a
sacrifice that we did, but we had to water plants
(03:42):
that we were growing in the nursery for retail sales
and all. So they just got slidered a little bit.
And that just shows you what happens. And we're in
the business and we water and do try to take
care and keep our facilities looking great as well. But
you know, their situation where they were really under a
lot of stress because of the limited area and when
it does rain, these things are the planting acts as
(04:07):
an umbrella. Sometimes you know, if it rains, it just
doesn't go penetrate down through kind of runs down the outside.
And so you know, the ones that were individually planted
on their own, not a problem. They look great. They've
got plenty of soil there, and we're able to pull
in enough moisture. They still look very good. But the
ones that were really tight together where the moisture just
didn't really penetrate in, we're losing them and they're big,
(04:30):
and it's unfortunate, and I think we're gonna wind up
having to take them out. We'll see, it's hard to
correct when an evergreens starts to do that. Typically you
can't correct it. And and be honest with you, and
a lot of times we'll see folks that'll send us
pictures or I'll go look at these trees, and unfortunately,
when there's a point where you just can't correct it,
it just doesn't stop. With evergreens. Deciduous plants sometimes you
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can cut them back and they flush back up again,
but evergreen's not so much. So again, you know, I'm
being honest with you, it does happen. It happened for
us there in a tough situation because it was in
that planting island. But we should have been on top
of it. Unfortunately taking care of the rest of the plants,
weren't able to do it, and we're gonna lose. I
think we're gonna lose all of them. So it's important
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for you to continue to water protect your investment in
your landscapes, you know. And again we're gonna be talking
about this right up until Christmas unless it continues to
rain and you know settles in I we get good rainfall,
and you may hear me saying in January and February,
hook up the hose and get out there and water
some of those newly planted evergreens if it stays that dry.
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So there you go to the Guardian phone lines. We
shall go at eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five Evelyn and Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Good morning, Oh, good morning, ron. I just wanted to
remind everybody that kicks, especially those little line disease takes,
to not hydrinate. They're swaller. The ones in the fall
might be a little bit bigger, they might not be
as tiny as in the springs, but they do send
(06:04):
out their feelers and want to flat on for a
blood meal. So when you go on those hikes or
jumping the leaves. Remember they watched to they feel the
heat from your body. Everybody should protect themselves.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I just want to tell you something evilin I know
you and we are we appreciate you when you call
because you are a tick awareness Reminder that now when
I walk through the woods in the fall, thinking, you know,
well it's fall, things have all shut down. I'm walking
through the leaves having a grand old time. I still
remember that. Edlin says, got to remind everybody those ticks
are still very active. They don't go dormant, so you've
(06:45):
still got to protect And I think you but you
you know, you've got to protect yourself. And that's I'm
enjoying walking through the leaves. But nevertheless, they're still out there.
They like she said, they ticks don't go dormant, so
you've got to still protect yourself, even out in the woods.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Right now, right, thanks Ron?
Speaker 1 (07:04):
All Right, what is the website that you always recommend?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Oh, yes, it's Global Lime Alliance or Tick Encounter or
you know the CDC has a lot about lime disease
and the amazing I always say, if you find a tick,
save it in a little plastic bag so it can
be identified and then if you feel shack, if it
(07:30):
was on you or somebody, you go to the doctor
and you say I want a test for lime disease.
You don't ask some whether you could have one. You
just politely say I want the test.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
It's not one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Accurate, but quite good, and then they can give you
the medication, which is an antibiotic to the disease.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Right, So, if you're out working in the landscape, you're
out in the yard, you're walking through the woods, just
do a little forest bathing and enjoying the fall season.
Don't forget those ticks are still very active. Make sure
you expect yourself when it's all said and done at
the end of the day. Evlon always a great tip.
We appreciate that and appreciate you. Rose in Ohio, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Good morning.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I have a couple questions. Alrighty Number one, when can
I cut back my clematis to get it to train
to go on at Trella's.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Uh, do you know what kind of have.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Fall blooming?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So? So oh anytime you know is it probably still
has all the leaves on it yet?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Right, yes, it's all green and beautiful yet yeah, and
then little.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Seed on it yep.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
And I love those seed pods. It look like a
bunch of spiders all over that thing.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
They do.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Typically, we will wait until it starts to shut down,
where you start to see the leaves starting to get
a little bit more of a golden collar and start
to drop, and it's usually very late in the season,
and then you can do it at that point, or
you can just let it ride over the winter and
then rose go out in the springtime before it starts
to regrow and cut it back at that time. So
you got two options there. Either one doesn't matter, but
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the whole goal is the fact that it flowers on
new growth, so you cut it back. So the new
growth is what comes out in the springtime and that's
where you get your flower. So it's up to you
if you can leave it alone and just leave it
like it is over the winter, leave it go and
enjoy it, but then get out there in the early
spring before it starts to regrow and cut it back
at that point.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And the other question is I have a young mimosa
and I have deer in my front yard, and when
it got planted, I put chicken netting wire over the
top of it. And what's not about three feet high.
(10:01):
I didn't take the wire off. I still wanted it protected,
and it started going under the chicken wire and horizontally,
and now it's about three feet tall and four feet wide.
I want to know if I should cut that four
feet off or if I should try to straighten it
(10:22):
up and put a post by it and make it
go up instead of horizontally.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Is that piece that's going off to the side, is
that like the central leader. Is that coming off the
main trunk?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
It's the main trunk, then I.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Would I would say yeah, And I don't know that
I would do that at this stage in the game.
I think I'd go through the winner, and then I
would look to bring that back up in the springtime
and do it at that point. I mean you could
do it now, I guess, and pull it back up
if you wanted to. But either way, but yes, you
could do that, and you can. You could pull it
back up, you know, using a stick in the ground
(11:00):
with a tie and pull it back, or maybe by
putting a steak right down beside the main trunk and
bringing it back and twist, you know, using the garden
ties and tying it onto that steak may work for
you too. If you feel like it might break as
you're pulling it back up, you may have to do
it over a couple period, you know, a couple couple adjustments,
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pull it as best you can, let it sit there
for a while, give it about, you know, four or
five months, and then bring it back up and from
there and maybe do it over that period of time
so that you don't snap it. But they're fairly flexible.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Okay, then, thank you very much, Art.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
All right, thank you, good talking with you. I really
appreciate the call. And uh, yeah, it's a you know,
if you was going to bring this up real quick.
We were talking to the lady before we went to the
top of the hour about our plants leaking, and I
couldn't think of the name of it. It's a guttation
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or guttation gutation. But it's it's basically a build up
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of moisture where the leaf just doesn't it doesn't evaporate
out of the leaf, so the leaf has this ability
to open up and just kind of push that out.
And that's what that is. And it's not again, not
a disease, not an is insect not an issue. But
when the moisture levels are high in the soil and
sometimes high in humidity in the house too, and it
just doesn't evaporate very well. Sometimes it'll just it'll do
(12:24):
that just to correct the amount of water pressure. That's
one side that leaf. But it's called gutation or guttation,
gut t at io win. I could not think of
that name. You learned that way back in the college days.
So there you go. All right, take quick break, we
come back. We'll continue talking about yardening. Coming up the
bottom of the hour, Peggy and Montgomery, we're going to
talk about spring flowering balls, how she cheats to trick
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them into flowering early. Here in the garden with Ron
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Welcome back, You're in the garden with Ron Wilson again
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two five five talking about yardening of course, if you're
doing soil amendments to your vegetable gardens, your containers, getting
you know, prepped for next year, don't forget those wool atts.
Remembers talking about the wool pellets as a soil amendment
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to see. And I've talked to the folks at Woolletz.
They said quite a few folks have jumped on some
of the smaller packages to use for like container gardening
or small gardens, just to experiment a little bit with.
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Not only that, can you imagine all the questions I
have stored up.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You know what? Dan even said this, No, I can't,
but Dan and even said this morning something about, you know,
there's a couple of people that used to call us
on a regular basis. We haven't heard from Anne for
a long time. I hope Ann's okay. And there you are?
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Now he's now, he's blushing now, he embarrassed him. So
how's how's the weather in Virginia? Are you guys as
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Well good for you, but but but dry? Still? I mean,
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I love it. How's our friends that stands Garden Center?
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I haven't been in there forever and I really need
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or something. Oh that's what I was going to ask you,
what do you do with all your plants at the
end of the season that don't get purchased.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Those all get put away. We have, like the nurseries,
have hoop houses, greenhouses that are unheated. Some of them
are heated depending on what goes in there. But a
lot of those plants all just get cut back, like
the perennials, will just get cut back and then put
inside there and stored away over the winter, kept dormant then.
And of course said in the springtime, with the houses
being covered, they warm up quicker, they'll start to break
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out a little bit earlier than usual, and then we
open them up and vent them and then it goes
right back into production. So a lot of that nursery stock,
if you have a place to put it, like we
do because we have a nursery, can just go back in. Now.
Some garden centers that don't have an area to do that,
their whole goal is to try to sell out. That's
why sometimes they'll have big sales at the end of
the season to get rid of the inventory, because then
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I'm a place to overwinter it, you know, besides healing
it in somewhere. So if you if you've got those
hoop houses, you know, it's no big deal. You just
put them put them in the hoop house, let them go,
dorm it, bring them back out in the spring, and
fire them back up again.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
What about seed packages?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Seed packs, you know, typically the seed companies have to
relabel those, so they either come and get those and
take them back, or because they have to be they
have an expiration date on there and trust the germination rates.
So they either come and take those back if they're
on consignment and redo them, or if you've got them,
you typically have to get rid of them through a
(20:06):
certain amount of time, and sometimes those become donations to
local communities and that uh huh if you can't get
rid of them. So yeah, but that's they have to
be re retested for the germination rate, and there's usually
a year and a half period on earlier so that
they're good. But otherwise there is an expiration data. Most
of seed facts running out of time. Man, We're glad
you called. Glad you heard from you, knowing that you're okay,
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keep in touch with us, okay, all right, take care
and from Virginia coming up next, Peggy and Montgomery We're
going to talk about flowering bulbs and what she does
to cheat to make him flower early. Here in the
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Speaker 1 (22:54):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. I
told you I was fired up this morning because a
couple of reasons is it looks like we're actually gonna
get some rainfall. I mean, the chances of us getting
some rainfall is really really strong. So we're all singing
hallelujah tonight, tomorrow and maybe even into Monday morning. We
will take it. Our plants will take it. So that's
(23:16):
got me fired up. Of course, she's doing the show
gets me fired up. But secondly, our special guest this
morning always gets me fired up because he's so much
fun to have on our show. That's why she's on
on a regular basis. We talk about bulbs and all
kinds of great things. And today we're going to talk
about how she cheats with her bulbs. I don't know,
that's what she told me. We're gonna find out what
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she means ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only. Peggy
and Montgomery. Good morning, Good morning, Good Morgan. I am
great in you.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I'm terrific, but I want a little bit of your rain.
We are in a severe drought in Delaware.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Well see we are too, We're right with you. We
haven't had anything. We had the one of the driest
October's on recorded history, and we're just carrying it right
into November. So they're actually calling for a fairly strong
chance of our entire area getting rained tonight and tomorrow,
So we will take it. We're all excited. Yeah, you well,
(24:18):
and I hope it comes your way as well.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
U me too.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
All right, so let's talk about flowering balls. First of all,
I'm a big container gardening, and one of the many
reasons is because it affords anybody the opportunity to do
some type of gardening, and whether you live in an apartment, condo,
whatever it may be, even and that pretty much covers
almost anything that goes on in the yard can be
done in a container, even spring flowering bulbs, even summer
(24:42):
flowering balls, which you and I have talked about in
the past. And one of the cool things I think
that folks can do with spring flowering bulbs. We're talking
about tulips and daffodils and crocus and all of those.
Is creating an actual spring garden in a larger container
that would give you a com domination of all of
those and flowering pretty much from the beginning late winter,
(25:04):
early spring right on through the spring season.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, Ron, that is so fun. Peri's a term. It's
called lasagna planting, and this is a blast. It's just
like lasagna, all in layers. So you have your big
container out there, you plant your tulips, you know, the
latest blooming flowers first. So the tubes go in first,
another layer of soil, some daffodilts, another layer of soil,
(25:32):
maybe some great hyacinths or dwarf iris another layer of soil.
And then you can get some snowdrops and crocus in
there too. And so that's actually going to bloom in
sequence for many weeks or months now.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
So if folks do this, and I'm assuming once we
do this, we're gonna put a little maybe a little
baldfood in there with them. They'll feed them through this
whole process.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, I do. I always give them a little bit
of in our bulk fertilizer that helps them get their
roots down and establish themselves for winter. It's you know,
it will probably work without, but you know, if you're
going to go to the trouble, why not buy a
little insurance, right.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So, So and we're talking, we're talking big pots. The
wider the pot, you know, the more you're going to
be able to really create a nice garden. And what
probably fifteen inches deep would be more than enough.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, that would be great. The bigger the better, you know,
go bigger, go home, as they say. But yeah, the
bigger ones that really are better, you can just do
more and the flower show is going to be bigger
and bring you more joy.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
All right. So we've got this thing planted, so we're
going to water it on a off and on basis
through the rest of the fall season. Do I need
to do anything to protect that or can I just
leave us sitting out on the deck over the winter
and let it do its thing in the spring.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
You know, there's a couple of ways to look at that,
and that of course depends on where you are in
the country. I mean, it's very different from Minnesota to Mississippi.
So if you know kind of a general rule of
thumb for leaving anything outdoors in a pot is that
they should be hearty to two zones warmer than you are.
So for instance, here for me in the mid Atlantic,
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we're zone seven. So if I'm going to leave anything
outside in pots, it should be hearty to zone five.
So there's a couple of ways. You can put them
in your garage if it's a little too cold, you think,
or in a protected area of the garden and maybe
put some chicken wire over the top and cover them
with leaves. That provides support and the chicken wire will
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keep the squirrels out. But for most places that should.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Work all right. And I think that's a good point too,
because we all know squirrels and other critters enjoy those
some of those bulbs anyway, not all of them, but
some of them, and of course they would dig in
there just to find out what you did because of
the curiosity. So exactly is that recommended for the most part,
Maybe to put a nylon netting or a chicken wire
on the top and we're done planting those up, because
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those bulbs can just grow up through.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That, right, Yeah, they certainly can. And you could just
put the chicken wire out, maybe put a little mulch
over the top, and you wouldn't even see it. But
those little devils, they don't care if they want to
eat them or not. They're still going to dig them
up just for the heck of it.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah. I just think they just do it to make
you mad.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I think they do because they looking at you the
whole time they're digging it, because you don't scare them,
And then they just keep digging and saying, look what
I'm doing, Come and get me.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Exactly, they are devils.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Talking about our good bull friend Peggy and Montgomery. The
website that you want to check out is flower bulb
dot eu. That's flowerbulb dot eu talking about doing spring
flowering bulbs and containers. Very easy to do now. Folks
can also take step that down and put those in
smaller pots if they're out right now. Sometimes you'll find
some of the bulbs on sale in your garden centers
(28:58):
trying to kind of clean things out. She can kind
of scarf ups a lot of balls for pretty good price.
You can also do those absolutely individually, and containers like
just pots of crocus or pots of uh snowdrops or
pots of tulips or pots of daffodils. You can do
the same thing. And just like we were talking earlier,
just over one of those in an unheeded garage or
no need to shed or window well and bring those
(29:20):
out in the springtime too.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Absolutely, And I'll tell you what a little pot of
snowdrops or crocus, you know, are just so special in
the dark days of winter to have something like that
blooming in your home. And what bitter gift could you
give to your friends and loved ones, you know, with
the spring holidays.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Maybe Oh yeah, absolutely, Now a quick question, it's it's
a ball, but it's not one of our spring flying
bulbs Amarillis bulbs, are you do? You do a lot
of Amarillis bulbs for winter color?
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Absolutely? And I always have. My mom loved amarillis, so
I've been planting those and giving those as Chris miss
gifts for Oh I don't know how many decades run.
But you know, they're so easy to grow, they're absolutely
full proof. They're super cool for kids because they grow
(30:11):
so fast. I mean, once they get going, they just
grow so quickly and they are big and bold and beautiful.
They come in all different colors and fully double forms.
And again they're just so fun to watch and so beautiful,
you know, in these dark days. I don't know about you,
but it's dark yere by five o'clock now.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But but believe it or not, Peggy, and this is
my favorite time of the year. I like this time
time better than the daylight saving time.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Do you really have to come?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I don't know something about I just like this is like,
this is it? This is like it's you know, the
normal time for me. And for some reason, I do
like it when we fall back in the springtime in
the fall, I you know, and I get it, and
I just I adjust to both of them. It doesn't matter,
but I do like this one of the best. But
you're right. And the thing I like about the amarillis
and people get tired of hearing me say this too,
but you get two thank yous out of that when
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you give it as a gift. You get to thank
you when you give them the like if you get
them the kit, you get them a thank you and
they're like, thank you. That's a very nice. But you
get a second call when they're in flower because because
in they're like, thank you, for this beautiful flower you
gave me six weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's so fun. Ron, I just veiled I guess about
fifteen bulbs to people that I work with throughout the year,
to say thank you for all of the work that
they've done and to wish them happy holidays. And for
folks that have never grown in Amarillis before, it's hysterical.
They keep sending me pictures like every few weeks, like
look how tall it is and there's color and it's
(31:41):
gonna bloom suit and it's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh, it is, no doubt about it. Talk about Peggy
and Montgomery. She's one of our favorites that we love
having on our show. The website, of course, you want
to check it out is flowerbub dot Eu. We're gonna
take a break. We're gonna find out how she cheats
forcing bulbs. We'll find out what she means about that.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (33:58):
Welcome back, You're in the garden with on Wilson's Special
Guests this morning. We always have so much fun with her.
Peggy and Montgomery talking about Babs and we're talking about
spring flowering balls. We just kind of broke off on
some Amarillis bulbs there for a second. There's so many
balls to talk about there. It's crazy. But there's a
scandal going on right now, Peggy and Montgomery that says
that you cheat on your bulbs and you trick them
(34:20):
into flowering sooner. How do you address that? Stondal?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
It's terrible, But you know what, probably, like most of
your listeners, I have a busy life, and if you
want to really force bulbs for the winter, you've got
to start now and get them a cold treatment. They
need to have a cold treatment like they would in nature.
So they go into your refrigerator, but not buy your
fruits and vegetables because they release ethylene, or in your
(34:46):
beer fridge or in your garage. And if you have
twelve weeks of patience to wait for them, they will
come up and they will flower and you will be
so proud of yourself. But this time of year, honestly,
I never get to it. And so I do have
a couple of ways of cheating.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
All right. Well, Number one is to just go online
and buy pre chilled bulbs, and it's super simple. At
flower Bulbs EU. We don't sell anything. We're inspiration and education,
but you could just google pre chilled bulbs and you'll
find places where you can buy them where the experts
have already put them through that cold period and all
(35:26):
you have to do is pot them up and wait
for the flowers to bloom. So that's one way I
do it. I personally have a lot of bulbs in
the yard, and so in early spring, January and February,
when I start to see them come up, I'm not
above digging them right up out of the garden and
putting them in a little pot, for instance, to bring
(35:48):
to my mother in law who's in a nursing home
now and she just loves them. And the other thing
you can do I love that this is getting more widespread,
is you can buy spring flowering already potted up in
most every garden center, and so you can take those
and you can make a little decorative arrangement to bring
(36:09):
in the house or to put on your front steps,
or to give his gifts. So those are the kind
of the three cheating methods I use.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
So it's true that you do cheat to trick your babs.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Absolutely, and I'm proud of it, she says.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And I'm proud of it. Yes, indeed, Peggy and Montgomery,
that's exactly what I would expect to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Talking about the spring flowering bulbs and of course ways
that you can cheat. And you know a lot of
times that garden centers when they get their bulbs done
in the fall for the fall season, occasionally we'll get
in some of the pre chilled hyacinths and a few
of those, and that's what those are all about, so
that you can buy those in November or October or whatever.
(36:55):
They're already chilled and ready to go. You pot those
up and you've got something for the holiday season or
during the winter time as well.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Absolutely, And if you like the fragrance, and I do,
hyacinths are a great bulb to grow in water. A
lot of times they will come in like a little
glass space that holds the bulb and the roots can
go down into the water. You can do the same
with paper whites, which I love because again I just
love the fragrance of paper whites. So actually am realist.
(37:24):
Paper whites and hyacinths. You can all grow in water.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
You know the thing about that? And I like the
smell of paper whites. A lot of folks just say
I cannot take that, that pungent smell way, and it's
pretty strong. But I really enjoy that. And of course hyacinths.
When I smell hyacins, if you put a little bit
of mulch in the background smell, I think of Home
and Garden shows.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Oh that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Because everybody's got a hiasis. And that's that's like says spring.
You hear, you smell the mulch, the fresh mulch, and
you smell the hyacinths, and you know spring is right
around the corner.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You know, that's a million million dollar idea around You
should put that in a model at sell it.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
He thinks have a little candle next to the hyacinths
in mulch. You know they do have one. It's a
tomato tomato vine. Really, why would you want to smell
like it? I don't know. I don't like the smell
of tatomize. No, I don't know. But it's out there,
somebody can buy it. Talk about Peggy amagermy course. The
website is flowerbulb dot eu. It's an informational website that
(38:27):
has so much great Information's phenomenal flower bulb dot eu.
You'll learn so much and of course we always have
so much fun having Peggy on with us as well. Uh,
maybe when we get close to the holidays, we you
and I can kind of talk about amarillas and paper
whites and the highest it's especially the amarillis because then
a lot of folks are gonna have the question what
do I do with it? After us done flowering? And
(38:49):
they're really not that hard to continue to grow and
to try to get them to flower next year, and
maybe we can share some of your secrets for how
you get yours to flower the following year.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I love to be on your show again. I love
your show run.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
You know that well, we love having you on.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I've got a question has nothing to do with the balls. Okay,
last week we had a recipe on our show from
our herbalist and she's also she's a great chef and
has all kinds of recipes, and she had a recipe
for making apple butter and as I started doing the
research on apple butter was brought to the United States
(39:26):
way back when from the Pennsylvania Dutch. Was that something.
Did you grow up with apple butter in Holland and
all or not? Really?
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Well?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
You know, actually I was born in Minnesota and there
is always apple butter in the fall. And you know,
I lived in the Netherlands for fifteen years, so actually
we didn't have it. I lived way up north, so
we didn't have apple butter. But people eat a lot
of apple sauce. Kids eat apple sauce at every dinner.
(39:57):
They put it on everything. So I used to have
to put up a lot of apple sauce in the fall.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
So you did that, did the apple sauce and not
the apple butter right right?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
And especially for children, they all love it. And I'm
so excited. Ron in two weeks, I'm going back to
Holland to see my kids and grandkids.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Well, congratulations, Now you going to be there for the
for a period of time or just a quick visit.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
It's kind of a quick visit because you know, they
have a little different Christmas. And Saint Nicholas is arriving
on a steamship from Spain, which is hysterical. So we're
going to be there when his boat comes into the
village where my grandchildren are, and we'll all be out
there to welcome him.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Actually, Center Klaus.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah, Center Class, Center Klaus again.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You know I've told you the story about our friends
that were from Holland and we learned so much from them,
was unbelieabled, Center Claus. But I just remember the kids
were celebrating, Center Class. It was like it was early December, right.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Actually, he comes into Amsterdam, I think on the eighteenth,
so he'll be up in the village where we are
the week after, and then he stays in the Netherlands
until his birthday on December sixth.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Got it, got it? I love it, Center Claus. What
a great story. Peggy and Montgomery. We always have fun
with you. We always enjoy having you on our show. Again.
The website is flowerbulb dot Eu. You'll learn more about it.
And now you know how Peggy and Montgomery cheats and
tricks her flowers flower bulbs into flowering earlier, so we
got some color over the winter and very early spring.
(41:30):
Always a pleasure. We'll get together for the holidays. We'll
talk about holiday bulbs.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
What do you say that sounds great? Thank you so much, Ron.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Thank you good talking with you, Peggy and Montgomery again.
The website is a flower Bulb dot eu and you
will find Amberillist kids out there right now. And you
know what we're talking with her about. The hyacinth. I've
always talked about the Ammarillis kits and the paper white kits,
and they'll be out there for you too. There used
to always be and I'm thinking real hard see it anymore.
(42:00):
The hyacinth kit used to be out there as well,
and I don't think I see that hardly at all
in garden centers anymore. I forgot all about that. And
they would the hyacinth bulbs can be grown in the gravel,
just like the paper whites are typically grown. You just
kind of nestle them in so the water just touches
the bottom of the ball and into the roots. And
paper whites or amrose can be done the same way.
(42:23):
And you would get this glass that the hyacinth would
sit in the top of the glass and then you
would fill the water up to the bottom. Was like
a little pear shaped figure shaped, hourglass shaped. I'm trying
to think of what it is a container that the
water was in the bottom and the highest and set
on the top, and we would get pre chilled hyacinths.
(42:46):
And I was just that was all running through my
brain while we were talking there, and I don't think
I've seen that in a long time in the garden centers.
But that's another really cool one that used to be
used a lot for the holiday seasons and of course
forcing through the winter time as well, because you can't
you just can't beat the smell of flowering hyacinths for spring.
All right, there you go, Peggy Montgomery. Always a pleasure.
(43:09):
Quick break, we come back phone lines. We're open for
you at eight hundred eight two three eight two fivey five.
Don't forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com.
I never did get to the plan of the week
and Reada's recipes. We will talk about that after the
break and again talk with you eight hundred a two
three eight two five five Here in the Garden with
Ron Wilson. How is your garden growing?
Speaker 6 (43:50):
Call Ron now at one eight hundred eighty two three
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