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eight two three A two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy talking about yardning. And it's kind of unbelievable because
you know, twice in about sixweek period. It's just unheard of.
But he is back with us thismorning. Who is he, you say,
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He happens to be the director ofHorticulture for the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and
Zoo. We call him the goldFinger because everywhere he points things get done.
He and Fiona, I'm not tohave the same that's the same clout
at the Cincinnati Botanical Garden Zoo.She points a toe. Things happen.
Steve points a finger. Things happen. And I'll tell you what, if
you are ever going, if you'renot from Cincinnati and you're ever going to
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visit the city of Cincinnati, putthe Cincinnati Botanical Garden Zoo on your list
of a destination because you will absolutelybe totally amazed at what they do.
It's a huge botanical garden with someanimals hidden in the background. Ladies and
gentlemen. The one, the only. The director of Horticulture, mister Steven
Goldfinger faults. Good morning, sir, hey Ron, how are you.
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I am doing great. I knowyou're not sitting on your patio this morning
because I don't know any birds inthe background. No, no little chili
out there this morning. I'll beout there shortly though, I figured as
much, so you're just having acoffee and sitting inside and chilling out.
I've got the finals today nine o'clock. Oh really, yeah, I get
the quiz some kids and they're gonnahate it, and but it'll be fun
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for me. Well, get toget samples and give them their final fall.
They're gonna love it. Finals ona Saturday. Can you believe that?
No, I can't wait before Christmas. No, I can't believe that
at all. So, not onlyare you director of Horticulture at the Cincinnati
Botanical Garden Zoo, but you teachas well. Yeah, I teach at
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the University of Cincinnati DAP program andhorticulture and then also the Cincinnati State Horticulture
Program. It's a two year program, which is a phenomenal UH program.
And you know, both of themare just great for our city and the
young new horticulturists coming out. It'salways fun to you know, keep keep
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you refreshed in school and on plants. And that's one of the things that
really does it for me. Ithink, well, you know and and
and and honestly, and I knowI kid you a lot about a lot
of different things. But you know, all the kids that I ever talked
to that come out of the programswhere you have been the director or when
you are you still doing your landscapefor Homeowner series, I am okay,
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anybody that's never come out in anyof those classes or that series that you
do and all that. Absolutely loveworking with Steve Folts for what it's worth.
Oh that's because I teach everything fromJoe Boggs and Ron Wilson. Yeah
right, Joe Boggs may have JoeBoggs made, not Ron Wilson. Well,
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okay, I'll take that anyway.No, I don't, because I
learned from you. I'm just amessenger. So anyway, a couple of
things for you. First of all, the Sininanta Potanical gardener zoo obviously a
huge thing in April. You know, it's the uh and they're totally in
bloom with the tulips and the daffodilsand all the spring flowering bulbs, and
of course that all happens by plantingin the fall. How many did you
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wind up planning? Now you haveexisting dafts and all the bulbs that come
back every year, you already havethose in throughout the botanical garden. But
how many tulips did you wind upplanting this fall for next April's way?
We did around one hundred and tento one hundred and twenty thousand in that
range, so a lot and alot one and ten to one hundred and
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twenty thousand tulip bulbs alone are plantedin the Substati Potanical gardener Zoo, and
that's and you do that on atemporary basis because once they are finished,
you take them out. Yeah,we take them out, hand them to
our gift shop and let them sellthem right out the door as soon as
we dig them. Probably not thebest way to handle bulbs, but we
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once the tulip show's over, weneed to get going on our annual program,
so we don't have time to letour bulbs die down naturally. So
it's a quick hit last for aboutthree to four weeks in the month of
April, and it's spectacular at thattime of year. And you know when
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the tulip bulbs come up, ityou know, it's just it lets you
know that, hey, we arein spring. And you know, you
get those March days where you thinkyou're in spring, and then it turns
down into the teams you're like,we're not quite ready yet. But then
when April comes around, especially midApril, I would say, if you're
looking to come into Cincinnati, Aprilfifteenth has always been a date. And
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then watch the trends. If wehave a warm season and it's hot early.
That might move up a week ifit's cool during the spring. Usually
it still hits around April fifteenth.Yeah. I remember one year, Steve,
we had you on I think itwas like the last week of March,
first week of April to kind ofpromote the all of the bulbs and
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all to go see it. Andat that point you were already half spent.
Oh yeah, that was a strangeyear. Yeah, that's I'm a
little nervous. Yeah, it waswarm so early that everything was up and
already half gone. So your firstquestion was you got any pot of tulips
or anything anywhere? We get that. That's right. I still remember that.
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But otherwise, I mean, forthe most part, all the rest
of the times have been fairly good. Yeah. Yeah, it's been beautiful.
It's been a great program for us. So many people taking pictures in
front of the tulips, and youknow, it's just they're everywhere, and
you know, it's we have thetunes and blooms on Thursday nights that are
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free to the public, and it'sjust a great time to come. It's
very quiet and just you know,we have some bands playing and you might
even have a ron Wilson sighting orSteve, especially if they're serving beer.
That's right, I'll be there.How do you think we make enough money
too, so put the tulips inthe ground exactly. As a matter of
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fact, I think last time youand I got together there, I think
we had something in our left hand. But anyway, talk with Steve Falts.
He is the director of for theculture for the Societi Botanical Gardener Zoo.
Of course going on right now isa pretty major thing that you all
have been doing as well, whichdoesn't have a lot to do with the
horticultural and other than the fact thatplants are supporting what's going on there.
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And of course it's the Festival ofLights. Plants support all life, I
mean lights and life, so they'resuper important to the Cincinnati Zoo or Botanical
Garden and Zoo. So it isjust a you know, if you have
trees, you know, the lightswouldn't be above you, and so no,
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it's honestly, we have a phenomenalfacilities team and a sprintline staff that
does just so many lighting. We'rein the process of planting one hundred and
twenty thousand bulbs in the ground whileother folks are out hanging lights and it's
just a total team effort over atthe Garden and Zoo and just such great
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people that I work with from topto bottom. It is a great place
to be and of course, wantto learn more about it, go to
the website Cincinnati Zoo dot org.That's Cincinnati Zoo dot org. Now you've
obviously the new elephant exhibit has beena major thing this year. What do
you have planned coming up as faras horticultural plantings yet for twenty twenty four,
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Well, I tell you, wejust got done putting in probably seventy
large trees, some of them hadto be craned in into planters where the
elephants are going to have their habitats. And it's amazing, you know,
putting in trees that are you know, eight inch caliper and you know,
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twenty five foot tall, because reallythis area was a parking lot and now
it's going to be one of thelargest habitats that we've ever produced at the
Zoo, and it's going to bea spectacular space for the elephants. And
again already arrived, they're they're justwonderful and I think this is going to
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be just a knockout exhibit and habitatfor the elephants, and the people are
going to enjoy it very much.And they're going to have a lot of
room, a lot of different thingsto explore in the habitats and you know,
different nips and crannies. It's goingto be really really cool. And
trust me, with the way SteveFoltz does this director for the culture for
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the Sesteti Botanical Garden Zoo, you'llhave a hard time finding the elephants or
any other animal there because he coversthem all up with a great plantings,
which is exactly what That's why it'scalled the Sesteto Botanical Garden Zoo, right,
that's what the animals love. That'swhat the animals love. We have
the go ahead. I was goingto say the best you have the best
reproduction rate there. It's the SeseBotanical Garden Zoo. Because those animals feel
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like they are at home. That'sright, thanks to you and you and
you're they are loved. Yeah,thanks to you and your staff and the
great plantings that you do. Thereain't no doubt about it. Steve Falks,
Director Horticulture for the set Potanical GardenerZoo. Quick break, we come
back. How would you like totravel with Steve and see some more tools
besides what you're going to see atthe Sinai Potanical Garden Zoo. Well,
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he parks. Welcome back here inthe Garden with Ron Wilson Special guests this
morning the director of horticulture for theCincinnti Botanical Garden and Zoo. Steve falters
with us. We call him theGolden Finger. Now, you know,
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in the in April you have theobviously the blooms and all the tulips and
the dafts and everything in flower.But then as they start to fade out
late April, you too are goingto fade out for about a week or
so and head over across the pond. Where are you headed? We are
headed to the Dutch Waterways to takea seven night, nine day riverboat cruise
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all through the Netherlands. So how'sthat sound for you? Ron, We're
going to go to the famous kuchenHoff Gardens, So you're going to go
from one spectacular display of tulips toa second spectacular display of tulips at the
Kuchanhoff Gardens in Holland. No doubtabout that's gonna That's gonna be unbelievable.
I mean, this is you talkingabout a colorful trip. This is gonna
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be one Holland and Belgium along theDutch Waterways, and the Steve Faults will
be along with you. So youknow, you can pick his brain and
talk to him about horticulture and allof the tools. So you're gonna go
to the kooking Off Gardens, Andof course there's a lot of things along
the way. Oh yeah, Ione in particular looking forward to is uh,
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you know, the Kroller Muller Museum. It has the second largest collection
of the Vincent ben Go paintings,and and you know, just I just
can't imagine, you know, seeingthe picassos and just you know, I
guess I'm just not seen that kindof thing. So it is just gonna
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be phenomenal. And so the museums, you know other uh you know what
you would normally see in you know, windmills. You know, just can't
wait to see that up close.And remember, Steve, when you're when
you're looking at the picasos and stuff, don't touch them. Don't touch them.
No, you can't. Probably can'ttake pictures of them either, Yeah,
don't. Yeah, just stand andlook, okay, and don't don't
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say I don't I don't get thatone or whatever. Just just look and
enjoy it, but don't touch themand don't take pictures. Well I'll come
home, well I'll be wanting topaint. Oh I can't wait for that
one. You and you and Fionaand a couple of the elephants little paint
brushes and have at it. Youknow now that you put me up against
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the elephants and the hippos, maybeI can. I don't know. I've
seen them, so they do apretty good job. Could be a little
competition there for you, you know. On a serious note, though,
this is a This is again atHolland and Belgium along the Dutch Waterways trip
the Cuckenheim Gardens obviously a major partof their Cookonoff Cockenheim Cookonoff Gardens in Holland
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the major stop here, but allkinds of stops in between. You said,
seven days, nine nights, ninedays, seven nights, seven nights.
Okay, so this is this isa nice long We get to see
a lot of that region, sothis would be great. And as far
as flowering for them, obviously withthe tulips and bloom it's a spring coming
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to lifetime for them as well.So I guess plantings will have been started
there because I've seen pictures. I'venever been there before myself, but I've
seen pictures of their container plantings andstuff and they're absolutely outstanding. Yeah,
I'm really looking forward, you know, on a selfish note, just to
get really a close view of howthey really do it in Holland. And
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yeah, I've never been over there, so it's going to be new for
me, and you know, we'rehoping to really bring back some of these
great ideas over in that region backto the folks in the Greater Cincinnati region.
Yeah, so it's it's kind ofa twofold. You know. Everybody
gets to go and travel and seethese great and everybody's always said to me,
you've never been to kougon Off Gardens. No, I haven't because when
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you're in this business, you're kindof usually busy by the last week of
April and the first week of May. So it's it's fortunate that you're able
to pull away and be able togo and see all this. And I
really am jealous of HEC. Iknow you're gonna have a great time,
and of course, anybody that knowsSteve Foults, you'll have a great time
traveling with him as well on thistrip and enjoying all the great colors.
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And I see the other thing theretoo, is the fact that you will
see some great ideas and hopefully bringthose back because at the Cincinnati Botanical Garden
Zoo, of course you guys doan outstanding job with your annual trials,
and of course you do those incontainers as well, and your container plantings
throughout the Seset Botanical Garden Zoo arejust spectacular, and you guys really do
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a great job focusing on those aswell as the end ground plantings. Yeah,
and you know habitats, I mean, it's all plants are really all
about feel and know to create thatfeel, whether it's with the color,
with the displays, with you know, the complex perennial plantings, or just
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having really nice perennials and spring floweringshrubs, summer, fall, fall color.
All this combines to really create afeel at the zoo that you know,
it's special. And one of thethings that we really want to do
is make sure that we take whatwe have done at the zoo and move
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that out into the community, whetherit's in you know, schools or or
you know, pocket parks and communities. And because the health and wellness that
you get from beauty and plants andyou know, just touching and feeling,
the sense and the textures. It'sit's undescribable and it's undervalued, and we
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really want to, you know,pass that along to everybody in our community.
You do a great job at ifthere's no doubt about it. Again,
if you don't live in Cincinnati andyou're ever going to be here,
put that on your list to visit. It's a great destination the Cincinnati Actually
it's the Zoo and Botanical Garden,but I call it the Botanical Garden Zoo.
You can go to the website CincinnatiZoo dot org. Now, folks
are interested because I know you onlyhave a few seats left on this trip.
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And seriously, you only have afew seats left. Where can they
go? I mean go? Canthey go to the website and learn more
about it? Yeah, they cango to the website. You know,
there's definitely they can call the youknow, Christina Anderson would be the contact
person, and you know she's settingthis up through the travel program and if
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anyone's been on a zoo program,you know in Africa or Y'ana, Safari,
you know, these are some ofthe programs that Christina helps set up.
And you know we're departing really Apriltwenty sixth to May fourth is the
time frame. So if you havetime frame, that's give us a call.
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Come, come join me, Comeand join Steve Faults in this wonderful
trip again. It's the Holland andBelgium and along the Dutch waterways. It's
gonna be spectacular. I wish Icould go, but unfortunately I cannot.
But I know you will share yourexperience with Steve. Always a pleasure to
have. A very merry Christmas anda happy New Year to you. Merry
Christmas to you. Ron all.I take care, quick break, but
come back shover. Alie will bewith us here in the garden with Ron
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five hundred here at fifty five KrcdtarchStation. Welcome back here in the Garden
with Ron Wilson. Then our secondguest. Is absolutely unbelievable that we get
him on our show. It's kindof crazy, but it's a it's a
fun thing to do. As amatter of fact, he just got back
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from a well I'm gonna let himtell you to share the experience with you,
but a something that I would lovelove to I think just to check
OUTTI you know, be the flyon the wall. Anyway. He is
the CEO Garden for Wildlife by theNational Wildlife Federation. Their website of course,
check it out Garden for Wildlife dotcom. And as I kidded him
the first time we had him onour show, he does literally float like
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a butterfly, sting like could bee. Ladies and gentlemen, shover awe league,
Good morning sir, Good morning,Ron. It's great to be back.
Thank you for having me. Hey, good having you on. All
right, So are they your armsstill sore or starting to get back in
the condition, though they're starting toget back in condition. Of course.
Now I've traded that for it alittle bit of a chess code, So
I apologize if I sound a bitrough, but it's you know, one
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of the things that you travel halfwayaround the world and you're in place with
thousands of people, you're bound topick up something. So yeah, absolutely,
just a chess hold. All right, Well, we hope you get
better and you sound good, Soit's good having you on the show with
us this morning. So let folksknow where you were a week ago.
Yeah. So I was very fortunateI received an invite to be at a
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part of the Climate Summit in Dubai, which obviously is in the Middle East.
Is everybody I think has heard abouton the news, the cop conference,
Coup twenty eight and all the differentthings that went on there, and
I was part of. Specifically,there was a sub section called the Climate
Investment Forum, which is where it'sorganizational talking about how do you actually invest
in things that are going to helpwith climate resilience and related things. And
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I think so one side note,if any of your listeners have not ever
been to or even seen Dubai,like just go online google it. It
is like a twenty second century citydropped out of the sky into the middle
of the desert. It's just it'sthe scale and then the size and of
course has the tall building. Theworld of bridg Kliva is just astounding.
I mean it's you know, comingfrom the US, it's quite a difference.
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Oh yeah, yeah, And againI've always seen the pictures, but
I can't imagine. That's why Iwas curious to talk to you this morning
what that was like to be ableto experience that whole area. And I'm
hoping you had time to get outand actually experience it in between all of
your classes and sessions that you wentto. I did. I actually had
a chance. Just a couple oflittle things. One is that, you
know, I went to the thingthat they have out in the desert.
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They've been doing this for twenty plusyears called Global Village, and literally it's
like a world expos that they dofrom October to April where they have pavilions
from countries all around the world andvendors from all those places. So if
you can't travel the world, theybring the whole world to you, massive
event with food from all over theworld, shops from the world, like
authentic vendors. So if you wantto get you know, clothing or arts
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and crafts or whatever. You know, great place to be a Christmas presents
as well, but from anywhere fromyou know, say Azerbaijan to Thailand to
you know, South America whatever,It's all in one place. Wow,
which was pretty pretty amazing. Yeah, son, believe we'll talk with a
chevar Ali. Of course their websitecheck it out. It's gardenfor Wildlife dot
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com. Uh, get signed upfor any information from that, and we'll
talk more about that here in asecond. But he was at the Climate
summit. So when you you know, when you're there and you meet so
many different people, Uh, youknow, what what's the buzz? I
mean? Is there any kind ofa general buzz coming away from that where
we are right now? What?What what'd you feel? So? I
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think people, you know, obviouslythey're there are a number of different agendas
and perspectives there. But what wasI thought most interesting in the summits are
sessions I was in, was that, you know, traditionally people have treated
four things very distinctly. There's carbonand carbon you know, climate and all
that. There's water quality, there'shabitat, and there's biodiversity, and different
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people focus on different things, andthis year, for the first time I
heard people talking about how they're allactually interconnected, which of course is what
we talk about, right, youknow, it's there's an example. I
met a woman from a country inWestern Africa, she's a minister there,
and she was talking about how,you know, in order to like reforest
and to get carbon sequestration, partlybecause they you know, people will buy
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those credits, they planted a wholebunch of euglicus trees or gum trees.
And you know, my reaction was, having lived in Australia's well, but
they're not native to that part ofthe world. And she goes, yes,
we figured that out when they startedto destroy the water table, because
they did not see that. Youknow, it's one of those like the
old children's nursery around you know,the lady swallowed to fly and then swalled
the spider to catch the fly,and you know, we do one thing
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to fix another thing, and thensomething to fix that thing because we don't
look at the whole system. Andso now they're finally talking about how carbon
sequestration it has to be connected towater quality, has to be connected to
biodiversity, has to be connected tohabitat preservation, and so from our perspective,
like the Garden for Wildlife. We'vebeen talking about that from as long
as I've been here, which isplanting native plants and shrubs and trees creates
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a habitat that is native to thearea. But it also supports the biodiversity
and the songbirds we all care about, and the pollinators. But it also
helps with water. I mean,like here in Maryland where I live,
we have a program called Rainscapes inour county where the county will pay you,
you know, up to seventy fivehundred dollars as a resident in the
county to put a rain garden inyour yard to divert the runoff so it
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doesn't get to the Chesapeake. Becausethose native plants have such deep roots,
they can absorb the water instead ofletting it run straight to the storm brains
like lawn stew. So it's likeall these things are connected. And then
of course it's the questric carbon becauseof the root structures and the trees and
the shrubs and all that. That'swhat they do, right, So all
those are actually connected. And itwas just great to hear people who's finally
connecting those dots at this summit forthe first time. So you came away
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with something I did and a lotsof great connections. And of course people
kept saying, you know, so, when are you gonna be in Europe?
When are you gonna be in youknow, in like the Middle East
for a Garden for Wildlife. I'mlike, well, first we have to
get to the west coast, andthen we have to and then then we'll
look overseas. So give us afew years. But we've got, you
know, a lot of people interestedin what we do. Excellent talking with
schov Ali. Of course their websiteagain, Garden for Wildlife dot com.
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Be sure and check it out.Let's take a quick break. We come
back. We're going to talk aboutnative plants, obviously in their importance,
but Shover's got something that's going onright now that you may be interested in
getting involved with, in addition tothe Garden for Wildlife. Uh, we'll
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here's the CEO for Garden for Wildlifeby National Wildlife Federation. And of
course Garden for Wildlife is gardening forgood and here to promote gardening for wildlife.
You know what's funny, and Ithink I told you this last time
we talked, many years ago.They was watching the trends coming out of
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out of Europe. And of coursewe used to watch the trends coming out
of the West coast coming to theEast coast, and one of the trends
coming out of Europe was gardening forwildlife. And this several years ago and
I said. Initially, I saidto myself, gardening for wildlife like bringing
in the squirrels and the raccoons,and you know, I'm thinking, I'm
talk about not thinking out of thebox and then finding the bell rings and
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it's like gardening for wildlife, dummy. You know, they're all included and
uh and it's funny. How notfunny, But it's interesting how it didn't
take long for that trend to continueto move across. Of course, it's
here now. And of course oneof the biggest factors here that's where you
come from, of course, isthe planting of native plants to help,
you know, take care of allof what we're looking to do here.
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And by the way, I wantto back up for a second. You
talked about the gum trees and thesituation that they had planted there and it
caused problems. So what do theydo in a situation like that, remove
them and plant up native plants,which is the next step, right,
So they have to undo the fixthat actually turned out to be worse than
the original problem. So they wereable to But they're able to do that
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well yeah, I mean it costlabor, right, yeah, yeah,
but they but they are able tomake make make the change, make the
adjustment. Yeah, you know.The next thing is that nature is actually
pretty resilient if we just give ita chance. But but yeah, I
mean when you're hitting out of gardeningfor wildlife and you know, I'll admit
I had the same initial Like myreaction when you say wildlife is it's the
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thing that most people think of aspast to whether it's deer eating your plants
or it's you know, squirrels orrecons if you don't like them. I
like raccoons, but some people don't. But actually it's really about the songbirds
and the pollinators, all the butterfliesand the bees and they and the sombers
that rely on their on their offspring, the calculars that have been disappearing,
and the simplest way to bring itback is native plants. Is we talked
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about before, and so one ofthe challenges is lack of supply. So
part of the reason we created gardensfor wildlife. And literally since we last
spoke, we are now officially spunout as a separate company owned by the
National Wildlife Speration but also has outsideinvestors, and it's a it's a for
profit company. So we took aprogram that was inside a not for profit
and turned it into a for profitbusiness that benefits the not for profit but
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also benefits to other people like investors. And the reason we did this is
because we need to go and createa lot more supply of plants in the
marketplace. There's lots of great nurseriesout there and garden you know, greenhouses,
but most of the small scale youknow, mom and pop operations that
we're partnering with, but there's justnot enough supply. That's the single biggest
impediment. Until we create a lotmore supply, you're not going to find
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a big native plants section apt youknow, for instance, at home DEEPO
or lows or you know a turningthose places. And so that's what we're
we're trying to solve for is tocreate more supply make it easier for people
to get these plants. We startedby doing a the e commerce, which
is right now. You know,if if you've got native plants, great,
if you want to get them,you can just go to our website
order them. You can also youknow, gifted to a friend. If
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you know somebody who's got a garden, you want them to put some and
you know, go to the websitebuy them and gift guard just in times
of the holidays and send it tothem electronically and then they can buy plants.
But but that's not what I'm mostexcited to talk to you about right
now. Well, and I tellyou, and again I want to bring
that up real quick. Is gardenAnd again it's a Garden for Wildlife dot
com. You can go on there, put your zip code in there and
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it will print out a list ofnative plants for your zip code for your
area, and you can use thatto shop at your local garden centers if
you want, or to order fromthem. And I had somebody email me
last week, believe it or not, that said their son lived in some
town in Indiana and you know,looking to plant a lot of native plants
and for the pollinators and all.And you know where can I get a
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gift card for online? Of courseI fired right back and said, Garden
for Wildlife dot com for one,and of course, and of course have
him check with a local garden centerto see what they would have available in
native plants, because you're right,I have a lot of folks and you
know, a lot of garden center, especially smaller towns or whatever, that
don't offer native plants, and soit's hard to find them. As a
matter of fact, we are havinga conversation at our own nursery this past
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week and I brought you up saying, you know, he's going to be
on the show. They're actually investingnow in growing their own native plants to
help the supply out there because it'sjust not as much as we need.
It's harder to it's hard to find. Yeah, and you know, we
are actually looking for more native plankgrowers as small nurseries and the gardeners.
We actually one of the most recentones were brought on. There's this great
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little it's a couple that owns alittle place called Hidden Gem Farm in Chesapeake,
Virginia, and they've got about threeacre farm and there are newest supplier.
We actually built a greenhouse for themthat will get paid off over a
couple of years, but to createthe capacity so that we can actually get
native plants to that area. Butso we are really petty to partner with
small growers in particular. So likethat nursery you're mentioning, I'd love to
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talk with them if you want toput them in touch with me. But
part of what we're doing as well, and we're building our own greenhouses here
in Maryland starting this next year toofor our own supply and also to try
to you know, automate and bringthis more than twenty first century so that
we can create more supply at thelower cost. But one of the things
that I'm really excited with is thatby spinning out and being a four profit
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company and opening up the marketplace isthat I'm really pleased to announced that we
have just launched a it's called aregulated crowdfunding red Sea Up. It's a
type of craft fund, but it'san SEC filing, so it's actually buying
common shares in companies open to generalmembers of the public, so you don't
have to be an a credit investoror or you know, super rich and
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by that I mean ordinary people.And they can become investors in for Wildlife
just by going to invest that Gardenfor Wildlife dot com. And then all
the details are there there, there'sa video, there's the perspectives, all
the rest of the stuff. Theygo there to invest that gardenfaull Loft dot
com and and learn more about it, and then if they're interested, you
know, actually join us in thejourneys as a shareholder as well as the
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customer and for folks that are interestedin doing this. And it's a you
know, you can print it outor read it through as you get to
the website. It's the invest Gardenfor Wildlife dot com. Is there is
there a dot Dogeah? Yeah,I thought I saw that that I can
put my glasses back on again.Uh yeah, invest dot Garden for Wildlife
dot com. Pretty interesting and theminimum minimal investment here is what two hundred
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and fifty bucks? That's correct.Yeah, so anybody can get involved.
So I mean that's a it's agreat thing, and you can learn more
about what they are doing, andI think again the problems that they're trying
to solve, you learn more aboutit. Just go to their web spend
some time, you know, ifyou're off for some days during the holidays
here, just go to their websitelearn more about it. Again, it's
Garden for Wildlife dot com. Andthen if you're interested, you'll also find
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this on their invest dot Garden forWildlife dot com as well. And I
think, you know, again,the supply out there. The demand is
coming along. We're seeing that thatmore and more as you continue to get
the word out as local you know, we all do our thing to get
the word out there about using nativeplants. The demands out there. Now
the question is all right, that'sfine, So now where do I find
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it? So hopefully you know,yeah, you know. Actually I'll say
I'm even pleased that Martha Stewart tweetedabout it about two weeks ago because the
certified wildlife Habitat, which the programGarden Wildlife does through the National Wildlife Federation,
they have this program. The other'sabout three hundred thousand certified habitats aroughout
the country and hopefully all of yourlisteners one day will certify their own yards
and certified wildlife habitats. He wasthe eight thousand certified half the time,
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and so she was celebrating and that'sa lot of Federation and Garden for Wildlife
and promoted us in a tweet acouple of weeks ago, which is which
is really nice. We know iscoming. So that was always fun to
see. And when Martha tweets,everybody listens exactly. I love it shover
all of you with us this morning. Here's the CEO Garden for Wildlife by
National Wildlife Federation. Of course,your website is a Garden for Wildlife dot
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com. And again, if you'reinterested to learn more about investing, it's
invest dot garden for Wildlife dot Comas well. You know, and again
I really appreciate you spending time withus this morning. I know you're not
feeling well, but do appreciate that. And as we can help as we
go along here, continue to useour radio shows as an avenue to get
the word out for what you're doingand to continue to push these native plants.
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I'll ask you one last thing hereas we work, and I know
you're really focused. I ask youthis before, but I always like the
folks to hear what you're saying.You know you're focused on native plants,
genus species, but what about nativeselections. Well, so here's the thing.
And Eric have been even looking outof my yard right now tho it's
winters. So pretty much everything issaid is we will only sell true native
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plants and native to where you liveas prior as I could. Finder is
so powerful, but people plant otherstuff. We're we're not purest we're up
that you can't do other things inyour yard. We just won't provide them,
right because we have a mission thatwe're specifically focused on, which is
to restore the habitat for the pollinativesof the birds. And that's what why
we do only need it, gotit, And that's and again I want
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to make sure folks understand that,uh you know, because you know there
are some native selections out there thatwill work for your area. But again
promoting the native plants, the nativespecies that are for your area. And
again if you want to check thatout, and it's a great list,
I mean, you can take thatlist with you and go to your local
garden center see what they have orwhat they don't have, and then work
back and forth. But again,just go to our website check it out.
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It's well worth a Garden for Wildlifedot com. And again, if
you're looking to invest, this isa good opportunity for you invest dot Garden
for Wildlife dot com. Got Christmascoming up in a week or so.
What if somebody like chevar Ali askfor for Christmas? More people buy native
plants from wherever they get them from. I'm happy if they buy them from
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us, but getting those into theground because obviously not right down in the
winter. But yeah, you canget cards for people to spread the words.
The more we spread it, morepeople see it better. Oh and
my other request is don't cut downyour native plants in the winter because the
pollinators and the birds actually still usethem throughout the winter. Wait until early
spring and then you can clean themout before the new growth comes in.
Excellent, it's not too late thatyou've already done it. Yeah, and
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we're seeing again that trend is startingto show up a lot more and as
we clean up our perennial gardens atthe end of the year, leaving those
things alone until springtime and then cleaningit up. Yeah. So it's amazing.
It's amazing what nature does for itselfif you just let it get to
it. And you know, evenif in your own small backyard, your
in containers or whatever it may be, whatever you do, every little bit
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helps indeed. And the thing iswe are now partnering with the Cornell a
Lot Ornithology, so they have theGreat Backguard Birds out coming up in February.
Yes, we'll be sending you outmore information about that. Happy to
talk with you guys again about thatas that's coming up, because we're really
excited about that and you know,for people who've been planning data plants,
you should be seeing a lot ofbirds coming back. Oh yeah, and
that's one we do try to promote, you know, a couple of weeks
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in advance and make sure everybody's upto date. And doing that only takes
you fifteen minutes, or you cando it longer if you want, but
it's it's a funny. Yay aswell, Shover Ali. Always a pleasure,
appreciate you spending time with us thismorning. I hope you feel better
again. Garden for Wildlife dot com, invest dot Garden for Wildlife dot com
as well, be sure and checkboth of them out. Feel better and
we will talk to you sometime towardthe spring. Always a pleasure on Thank
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you so much. All right,thank you good talking with you, Shover
Ali, CEO of Garden for Wildlife. And again even with our nursery here
locally sitting down talking about future plantsthat we'll be growing, which we have
to do that every year. Youknow, what are we going to grow?
What's the trends? You know thething for native plants continues to grow
and grow more and more, whichis good. And I get it where
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they're coming from. And again I'mone of those of the diversity, you
know, the native plants and thenative selections for our area to use both.
But again, if you have ahard time finding it, finding those
native plants, this may be youranswer right here, Garden for Wildlife dot
Com. And again, looking fora gift gift card like our email or
one of our listeners, Well,you know, my son lives in a
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certain town and wants to get moreinvolved. But you know where do I
get them a gift card for there? You go go to the Garden for
Yeah, yeah, that's it onlinedot com, Garden for Wildlife dot com
and you can get a gift cardas well. I'm sure. I'm totally
sure. Now right, quick break, we come back. We'll jump back
into the garden phone lines at eighthundred eight two three eight two five five.
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hundred here at fifty five KRCD talkstation. Our toll free number eight hundred
eight two three A two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy talking about yardning. And it's kind of unbelievable because
you know, twice in about sixweek period. It's just unheard of.
But he is back with us thismorning. Who is he, you say,
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He happens to be the director ofHorticulture for the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and
Zoo. We call him the goldFinger because everywhere he points things get done.
He and Fiona, I'm not tohave the same that's the same clout
at the Cincinnati Botanical Garden Zoo.She points a toe. Things happen.
Steve points a finger. Things happen. And I'll tell you what, if
you are ever going, if you'renot from Cincinnati and you're ever going to
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visit the city of Cincinnati, putthe Cincinnati Botanical Garden Zoo on your list
of a destination because you will absolutelybe totally amazed at what they do.
It's a huge botanical garden with someanimals hidden in the background. Ladies and
gentlemen. The one, the only. The director of Horticulture, mister Steven
Goldfinger faults. Good morning, sir, hey Ron, how are you.
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I am doing great. I knowyou're not sitting on your patio this morning
because I don't know any birds inthe background. No, no little chili
out there this morning. I'll beout there shortly though, I figured as
much, so you're just having acoffee and sitting inside and chilling out.
I've got the finals today nine o'clock. Oh really, yeah, I get
the quiz some kids and they're gonnahate it, and but it'll be fun
(02:00):
for me. Well, get toget samples and give them their final fall.
They're gonna love it. Finals ona Saturday. Can you believe that?
No, I can't wait before Christmas. No, I can't believe that
at all. So, not onlyare you director of Horticulture at the Cincinnati
Botanical Garden Zoo, but you teachas well. Yeah, I teach at
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the University of Cincinnati DAP program andhorticulture and then also the Cincinnati State Horticulture
Program. It's a two year program, which is a phenomenal UH program.
And you know, both of themare just great for our city and the
young new horticulturists coming out. It'salways fun to you know, keep keep
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you refreshed in school and on plants. And that's one of the things that
really does it for me. Ithink, well, you know and and
and and honestly, and I knowI kid you a lot about a lot
of different things. But you know, all the kids that I ever talked
to that come out of the programswhere you have been the director or when
you are you still doing your landscapefor Homeowner series, I am okay,
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anybody that's never come out in anyof those classes or that series that you
do and all that. Absolutely loveworking with Steve Folts for what it's worth.
Oh that's because I teach everything fromJoe Boggs and Ron Wilson. Yeah
right, Joe Boggs may have JoeBoggs made, not Ron Wilson. Well,
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okay, I'll take that anyway.No, I don't, because I
learned from you. I'm just amessenger. So anyway, a couple of
things for you. First of all, the Sininanta Potanical gardener zoo obviously a
huge thing in April. You know, it's the uh and they're totally in
bloom with the tulips and the daffodilsand all the spring flowering bulbs, and
of course that all happens by plantingin the fall. How many did you
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wind up planning? Now you haveexisting dafts and all the bulbs that come
back every year, you already havethose in throughout the botanical garden. But
how many tulips did you wind upplanting this fall for next April's way?
We did around one hundred and tento one hundred and twenty thousand in that
range, so a lot and alot one and ten to one hundred and
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twenty thousand tulip bulbs alone are plantedin the Substati Potanical gardener Zoo, and
that's and you do that on atemporary basis because once they are finished,
you take them out. Yeah,we take them out, hand them to
our gift shop and let them sellthem right out the door as soon as
we dig them. Probably not thebest way to handle bulbs, but we
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once the tulip show's over, weneed to get going on our annual program,
so we don't have time to letour bulbs die down naturally. So
it's a quick hit last for aboutthree to four weeks in the month of
April, and it's spectacular at thattime of year. And you know when
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the tulip bulbs come up, ityou know, it's just it lets you
know that, hey, we arein spring. And you know, you
get those March days where you thinkyou're in spring, and then it turns
down into the teams you're like,we're not quite ready yet. But then
when April comes around, especially midApril, I would say, if you're
looking to come into Cincinnati, Aprilfifteenth has always been a date. And
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then watch the trends. If wehave a warm season and it's hot early.
That might move up a week ifit's cool during the spring. Usually
it still hits around April fifteenth.Yeah. I remember one year, Steve,
we had you on I think itwas like the last week of March,
first week of April to kind ofpromote the all of the bulbs and
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all to go see it. Andat that point you were already half spent.
Oh yeah, that was a strangeyear. Yeah, that's I'm a
little nervous. Yeah, it waswarm so early that everything was up and
already half gone. So your firstquestion was you got any pot of tulips
or anything anywhere? We get that. That's right. I still remember that.
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But otherwise, I mean, forthe most part, all the rest
of the times have been fairly good. Yeah. Yeah, it's been beautiful.
It's been a great program for us. So many people taking pictures in
front of the tulips, and youknow, it's just they're everywhere, and
you know, it's we have thetunes and blooms on Thursday nights that are
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free to the public, and it'sjust a great time to come. It's
very quiet and just you know,we have some bands playing and you might
even have a ron Wilson sighting orSteve, especially if they're serving beer.
That's right, I'll be there.How do you think we make enough money
too, so put the tulips inthe ground exactly. As a matter of
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fact, I think last time youand I got together there, I think
we had something in our left hand. But anyway, talk with Steve Falts.
He is the director of for theculture for the Societi Botanical Gardener Zoo.
Of course going on right now isa pretty major thing that you all
have been doing as well, whichdoesn't have a lot to do with the
horticultural and other than the fact thatplants are supporting what's going on there.
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And of course it's the Festival ofLights. Plants support all life, I
mean lights and life, so they'resuper important to the Cincinnati Zoo or Botanical
Garden and Zoo. So it isjust a you know, if you have
trees, you know, the lightswouldn't be above you, and so no,
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it's honestly, we have a phenomenalfacilities team and a sprintline staff that
does just so many lighting. We'rein the process of planting one hundred and
twenty thousand bulbs in the ground whileother folks are out hanging lights and it's
just a total team effort over atthe Garden and Zoo and just such great
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people that I work with from topto bottom. It is a great place
to be and of course, wantto learn more about it, go to
the website Cincinnati Zoo dot org.That's Cincinnati Zoo dot org. Now you've
obviously the new elephant exhibit has beena major thing this year. What do
you have planned coming up as faras horticultural plantings yet for twenty twenty four,
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Well, I tell you, wejust got done putting in probably seventy
large trees, some of them hadto be craned in into planters where the
elephants are going to have their habitats. And it's amazing, you know,
putting in trees that are you know, eight inch caliper and you know,
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twenty five foot tall, because reallythis area was a parking lot and now
it's going to be one of thelargest habitats that we've ever produced at the
Zoo, and it's going to bea spectacular space for the elephants. And
again already arrived, they're they're justwonderful and I think this is going to
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be just a knockout exhibit and habitatfor the elephants, and the people are
going to enjoy it very much.And they're going to have a lot of
room, a lot of different thingsto explore in the habitats and you know,
different nips and crannies. It's goingto be really really cool. And
trust me, with the way SteveFoltz does this director for the culture for
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the Sesteti Botanical Garden Zoo, you'llhave a hard time finding the elephants or
any other animal there because he coversthem all up with a great plantings,
which is exactly what That's why it'scalled the Sesteto Botanical Garden Zoo, right,
that's what the animals love. That'swhat the animals love. We have
the go ahead. I was goingto say the best you have the best
reproduction rate there. It's the SeseBotanical Garden Zoo. Because those animals feel
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like they are at home. That'sright, thanks to you and you and
you're they are loved. Yeah,thanks to you and your staff and the
great plantings that you do. Thereain't no doubt about it. Steve Falks,
Director Horticulture for the set Potanical GardenerZoo. Quick break, we come
back. How would you like totravel with Steve and see some more tools
besides what you're going to see atthe Sinai Potanical Garden Zoo. Well,
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we're going to tell you how youcan after the break here in the Garden
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he parks. Welcome back here inthe Garden with Ron Wilson Special guests this
morning the director of horticulture for theCincinnti Botanical Garden and Zoo. Steve falters
with us. We call him theGolden Finger. Now, you know,
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in the in April you have theobviously the blooms and all the tulips and
the dafts and everything in flower.But then as they start to fade out
late April, you too are goingto fade out for about a week or
so and head over across the pond. Where are you headed? We are
headed to the Dutch Waterways to takea seven night, nine day riverboat cruise
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all through the Netherlands. So how'sthat sound for you? Ron, We're
going to go to the famous kuchenHoff Gardens, So you're going to go
from one spectacular display of tulips toa second spectacular display of tulips at the
Kuchanhoff Gardens in Holland. No doubtabout that's gonna That's gonna be unbelievable.
I mean, this is you talkingabout a colorful trip. This is gonna
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be one Holland and Belgium along theDutch Waterways, and the Steve Faults will
be along with you. So youknow, you can pick his brain and
talk to him about horticulture and allof the tools. So you're gonna go
to the kooking Off Gardens, Andof course there's a lot of things along
the way. Oh yeah, Ione in particular looking forward to is uh,
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you know, the Kroller Muller Museum. It has the second largest collection
of the Vincent ben Go paintings,and and you know, just I just
can't imagine, you know, seeingthe picassos and just you know, I
guess I'm just not seen that kindof thing. So it is just gonna
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be phenomenal. And so the museums, you know other uh you know what
you would normally see in you know, windmills. You know, just can't
wait to see that up close.And remember, Steve, when you're when
you're looking at the picasos and stuff, don't touch them. Don't touch them.
No, you can't. Probably can'ttake pictures of them either, Yeah,
don't. Yeah, just stand andlook, okay, and don't don't
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say I don't I don't get thatone or whatever. Just just look and
enjoy it, but don't touch themand don't take pictures. Well I'll come
home, well I'll be wanting topaint. Oh I can't wait for that
one. You and you and Fionaand a couple of the elephants little paint
brushes and have at it. Youknow now that you put me up against
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the elephants and the hippos, maybeI can. I don't know. I've
seen them, so they do apretty good job. Could be a little
competition there for you, you know. On a serious note, though,
this is a This is again atHolland and Belgium along the Dutch Waterways trip
the Cuckenheim Gardens obviously a major partof their Cookonoff Cockenheim Cookonoff Gardens in Holland
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the major stop here, but allkinds of stops in between. You said,
seven days, nine nights, ninedays, seven nights, seven nights.
Okay, so this is this isa nice long We get to see
a lot of that region, sothis would be great. And as far
as flowering for them, obviously withthe tulips and bloom it's a spring coming
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to lifetime for them as well.So I guess plantings will have been started
there because I've seen pictures. I'venever been there before myself, but I've
seen pictures of their container plantings andstuff and they're absolutely outstanding. Yeah,
I'm really looking forward, you know, on a selfish note, just to
get really a close view of howthey really do it in Holland. And
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yeah, I've never been over there, so it's going to be new for
me, and you know, we'rehoping to really bring back some of these
great ideas over in that region backto the folks in the Greater Cincinnati region.
Yeah, so it's it's kind ofa twofold. You know. Everybody
gets to go and travel and seethese great and everybody's always said to me,
you've never been to kougon Off Gardens. No, I haven't because when
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you're in this business, you're kindof usually busy by the last week of
April and the first week of May. So it's it's fortunate that you're able
to pull away and be able togo and see all this. And I
really am jealous of HEC. Iknow you're gonna have a great time,
and of course, anybody that knowsSteve Foults, you'll have a great time
traveling with him as well on thistrip and enjoying all the great colors.
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And I see the other thing theretoo, is the fact that you will
see some great ideas and hopefully bringthose back because at the Cincinnati Botanical Garden
Zoo, of course you guys doan outstanding job with your annual trials,
and of course you do those incontainers as well, and your container plantings
throughout the Seset Botanical Garden Zoo arejust spectacular, and you guys really do
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a great job focusing on those aswell as the end ground plantings. Yeah,
and you know habitats, I mean, it's all plants are really all
about feel and know to create thatfeel, whether it's with the color,
with the displays, with you know, the complex perennial plantings, or just
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having really nice perennials and spring floweringshrubs, summer, fall, fall color.
All this combines to really create afeel at the zoo that you know,
it's special. And one of thethings that we really want to do
is make sure that we take whatwe have done at the zoo and move
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that out into the community, whetherit's in you know, schools or or
you know, pocket parks and communities. And because the health and wellness that
you get from beauty and plants andyou know, just touching and feeling,
the sense and the textures. It'sit's undescribable and it's undervalued, and we
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really want to, you know,pass that along to everybody in our community.
You do a great job at ifthere's no doubt about it. Again,
if you don't live in Cincinnati andyou're ever going to be here,
put that on your list to visit. It's a great destination the Cincinnati Actually
it's the Zoo and Botanical Garden,but I call it the Botanical Garden Zoo.
You can go to the website CincinnatiZoo dot org. Now, folks
are interested because I know you onlyhave a few seats left on this trip.
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And seriously, you only have afew seats left. Where can they
go? I mean go? Canthey go to the website and learn more
about it? Yeah, they cango to the website. You know,
there's definitely they can call the youknow, Christina Anderson would be the contact
person, and you know she's settingthis up through the travel program and if
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anyone's been on a zoo program,you know in Africa or Y'ana, Safari,
you know, these are some ofthe programs that Christina helps set up.
And you know we're departing really Apriltwenty sixth to May fourth is the
time frame. So if you havetime frame, that's give us a call.
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Come, come join me, Comeand join Steve Faults in this wonderful
trip again. It's the Holland andBelgium and along the Dutch waterways. It's
gonna be spectacular. I wish Icould go, but unfortunately I cannot.
But I know you will share yourexperience with Steve. Always a pleasure to
have. A very merry Christmas anda happy New Year to you. Merry
Christmas to you. Ron all.I take care, quick break, but
come back shover. Alie will bewith us here in the garden with Ron
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five hundred here at fifty five KrcdtarchStation. Welcome back here in the Garden
with Ron Wilson. Then our secondguest. Is absolutely unbelievable that we get
him on our show. It's kindof crazy, but it's a it's a
fun thing to do. As amatter of fact, he just got back
(22:26):
from a well I'm gonna let himtell you to share the experience with you,
but a something that I would lovelove to I think just to check
OUTTI you know, be the flyon the wall. Anyway. He is
the CEO Garden for Wildlife by theNational Wildlife Federation. Their website of course,
check it out Garden for Wildlife dotcom. And as I kidded him
the first time we had him onour show, he does literally float like
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a butterfly, sting like could bee. Ladies and gentlemen, shover awe league,
Good morning sir, Good morning,Ron. It's great to be back.
Thank you for having me. Hey, good having you on. All
right, So are they your armsstill sore or starting to get back in
the condition, though they're starting toget back in condition. Of course.
Now I've traded that for it alittle bit of a chess code, So
I apologize if I sound a bitrough, but it's you know, one
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of the things that you travel halfwayaround the world and you're in place with
thousands of people, you're bound topick up something. So yeah, absolutely,
just a chess hold. All right, Well, we hope you get
better and you sound good, Soit's good having you on the show with
us this morning. So let folksknow where you were a week ago.
Yeah. So I was very fortunateI received an invite to be at a
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part of the Climate Summit in Dubai, which obviously is in the Middle East.
Is everybody I think has heard abouton the news, the cop conference,
Coup twenty eight and all the differentthings that went on there, and
I was part of. Specifically,there was a sub section called the Climate
Investment Forum, which is where it'sorganizational talking about how do you actually invest
in things that are going to helpwith climate resilience and related things. And
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I think so one side note,if any of your listeners have not ever
been to or even seen Dubai,like just go online google it. It
is like a twenty second century citydropped out of the sky into the middle
of the desert. It's just it'sthe scale and then the size and of
course has the tall building. Theworld of bridg Kliva is just astounding.
I mean it's you know, comingfrom the US, it's quite a difference.
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Oh yeah, yeah, And againI've always seen the pictures, but
I can't imagine. That's why Iwas curious to talk to you this morning
what that was like to be ableto experience that whole area. And I'm
hoping you had time to get outand actually experience it in between all of
your classes and sessions that you wentto. I did. I actually had
a chance. Just a couple oflittle things. One is that, you
know, I went to the thingthat they have out in the desert.
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They've been doing this for twenty plusyears called Global Village, and literally it's
like a world expos that they dofrom October to April where they have pavilions
from countries all around the world andvendors from all those places. So if
you can't travel the world, theybring the whole world to you, massive
event with food from all over theworld, shops from the world, like
authentic vendors. So if you wantto get you know, clothing or arts
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and crafts or whatever. You know, great place to be a Christmas presents
as well, but from anywhere fromyou know, say Azerbaijan to Thailand to
you know, South America whatever,It's all in one place. Wow,
which was pretty pretty amazing. Yeah, son, believe we'll talk with a
chevar Ali. Of course their websitecheck it out. It's gardenfor Wildlife dot
(25:27):
com. Uh, get signed upfor any information from that, and we'll
talk more about that here in asecond. But he was at the Climate
summit. So when you you know, when you're there and you meet so
many different people, Uh, youknow, what what's the buzz? I
mean? Is there any kind ofa general buzz coming away from that where
we are right now? What?What what'd you feel? So? I
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think people, you know, obviouslythey're there are a number of different agendas
and perspectives there. But what wasI thought most interesting in the summits are
sessions I was in, was that, you know, traditionally people have treated
four things very distinctly. There's carbonand carbon you know, climate and all
that. There's water quality, there'shabitat, and there's biodiversity, and different
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people focus on different things, andthis year, for the first time I
heard people talking about how they're allactually interconnected, which of course is what
we talk about, right, youknow, it's there's an example. I
met a woman from a country inWestern Africa, she's a minister there,
and she was talking about how,you know, in order to like reforest
and to get carbon sequestration, partlybecause they you know, people will buy
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those credits, they planted a wholebunch of euglicus trees or gum trees.
And you know, my reaction was, having lived in Australia's well, but
they're not native to that part ofthe world. And she goes, yes,
we figured that out when they startedto destroy the water table, because
they did not see that. Youknow, it's one of those like the
old children's nursery around you know,the lady swallowed to fly and then swalled
the spider to catch the fly,and you know, we do one thing
(26:52):
to fix another thing, and thensomething to fix that thing because we don't
look at the whole system. Andso now they're finally talking about how carbon
sequestration it has to be connected towater quality, has to be connected to
biodiversity, has to be connected tohabitat preservation, and so from our perspective,
like the Garden for Wildlife. We'vebeen talking about that from as long
as I've been here, which isplanting native plants and shrubs and trees creates
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a habitat that is native to thearea. But it also supports the biodiversity
and the songbirds we all care about, and the pollinators. But it also
helps with water. I mean,like here in Maryland where I live,
we have a program called Rainscapes inour county where the county will pay you,
you know, up to seventy fivehundred dollars as a resident in the
county to put a rain garden inyour yard to divert the runoff so it
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doesn't get to the Chesapeake. Becausethose native plants have such deep roots,
they can absorb the water instead ofletting it run straight to the storm brains
like lawn stew. So it's likeall these things are connected. And then
of course it's the questric carbon becauseof the root structures and the trees and
the shrubs and all that. That'swhat they do, right, So all
those are actually connected. And itwas just great to hear people who's finally
connecting those dots at this summit forthe first time. So you came away
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with something I did and a lotsof great connections. And of course people
kept saying, you know, so, when are you gonna be in Europe?
When are you gonna be in youknow, in like the Middle East
for a Garden for Wildlife. I'mlike, well, first we have to
get to the west coast, andthen we have to and then then we'll
look overseas. So give us afew years. But we've got, you
know, a lot of people interestedin what we do. Excellent talking with
schov Ali. Of course their websiteagain, Garden for Wildlife dot com.
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Be sure and check it out.Let's take a quick break. We come
back. We're going to talk aboutnative plants, obviously in their importance,
but Shover's got something that's going onright now that you may be interested in
getting involved with, in addition tothe Garden for Wildlife. Uh, we'll
talk more about that after the break. Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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in the Garden with Ron Wilson,our special guest this morning. Shover Allie,
here's the CEO for Garden for Wildlifeby National Wildlife Federation. And of
course Garden for Wildlife is gardening forgood and here to promote gardening for wildlife.
You know what's funny, and Ithink I told you this last time
we talked, many years ago.They was watching the trends coming out of
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out of Europe. And of coursewe used to watch the trends coming out
of the West coast coming to theEast coast, and one of the trends
coming out of Europe was gardening forwildlife. And this several years ago and
I said. Initially, I saidto myself, gardening for wildlife like bringing
in the squirrels and the raccoons,and you know, I'm thinking, I'm
talk about not thinking out of thebox and then finding the bell rings and
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it's like gardening for wildlife, dummy. You know, they're all included and
uh and it's funny. How notfunny, But it's interesting how it didn't
take long for that trend to continueto move across. Of course, it's
here now. And of course oneof the biggest factors here that's where you
come from, of course, isthe planting of native plants to help,
you know, take care of allof what we're looking to do here.
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And by the way, I wantto back up for a second. You
talked about the gum trees and thesituation that they had planted there and it
caused problems. So what do theydo in a situation like that, remove
them and plant up native plants,which is the next step, right,
So they have to undo the fixthat actually turned out to be worse than
the original problem. So they wereable to But they're able to do that
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well yeah, I mean it costlabor, right, yeah, yeah,
but they but they are able tomake make make the change, make the
adjustment. Yeah, you know.The next thing is that nature is actually
pretty resilient if we just give ita chance. But but yeah, I
mean when you're hitting out of gardeningfor wildlife and you know, I'll admit
I had the same initial Like myreaction when you say wildlife is it's the
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thing that most people think of aspast to whether it's deer eating your plants
or it's you know, squirrels orrecons if you don't like them. I
like raccoons, but some people don't. But actually it's really about the songbirds
and the pollinators, all the butterfliesand the bees and they and the sombers
that rely on their on their offspring, the calculars that have been disappearing,
and the simplest way to bring itback is native plants. Is we talked
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about before, and so one ofthe challenges is lack of supply. So
part of the reason we created gardensfor wildlife. And literally since we last
spoke, we are now officially spunout as a separate company owned by the
National Wildlife Speration but also has outsideinvestors, and it's a it's a for
profit company. So we took aprogram that was inside a not for profit
and turned it into a for profitbusiness that benefits the not for profit but
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also benefits to other people like investors. And the reason we did this is
because we need to go and createa lot more supply of plants in the
marketplace. There's lots of great nurseriesout there and garden you know, greenhouses,
but most of the small scale youknow, mom and pop operations that
we're partnering with, but there's justnot enough supply. That's the single biggest
impediment. Until we create a lotmore supply, you're not going to find
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a big native plants section apt youknow, for instance, at home DEEPO
or lows or you know a turningthose places. And so that's what we're
we're trying to solve for is tocreate more supply make it easier for people
to get these plants. We startedby doing a the e commerce, which
is right now. You know,if if you've got native plants, great,
if you want to get them,you can just go to our website
order them. You can also youknow, gifted to a friend. If
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you know somebody who's got a garden, you want them to put some and
you know, go to the websitebuy them and gift guard just in times
of the holidays and send it tothem electronically and then they can buy plants.
But but that's not what I'm mostexcited to talk to you about right
now. Well, and I tellyou, and again I want to bring
that up real quick. Is gardenAnd again it's a Garden for Wildlife dot
com. You can go on there, put your zip code in there and
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it will print out a list ofnative plants for your zip code for your
area, and you can use thatto shop at your local garden centers if
you want, or to order fromthem. And I had somebody email me
last week, believe it or not, that said their son lived in some
town in Indiana and you know,looking to plant a lot of native plants
and for the pollinators and all.And you know where can I get a
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gift card for online? Of courseI fired right back and said, Garden
for Wildlife dot com for one,and of course, and of course have
him check with a local garden centerto see what they would have available in
native plants, because you're right,I have a lot of folks and you
know, a lot of garden center, especially smaller towns or whatever, that
don't offer native plants, and soit's hard to find them. As a
matter of fact, we are havinga conversation at our own nursery this past
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week and I brought you up saying, you know, he's going to be
on the show. They're actually investingnow in growing their own native plants to
help the supply out there because it'sjust not as much as we need.
It's harder to it's hard to find. Yeah, and you know, we
are actually looking for more native plankgrowers as small nurseries and the gardeners.
We actually one of the most recentones were brought on. There's this great
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little it's a couple that owns alittle place called Hidden Gem Farm in Chesapeake,
Virginia, and they've got about threeacre farm and there are newest supplier.
We actually built a greenhouse for themthat will get paid off over a
couple of years, but to createthe capacity so that we can actually get
native plants to that area. Butso we are really petty to partner with
small growers in particular. So likethat nursery you're mentioning, I'd love to
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talk with them if you want toput them in touch with me. But
part of what we're doing as well, and we're building our own greenhouses here
in Maryland starting this next year toofor our own supply and also to try
to you know, automate and bringthis more than twenty first century so that
we can create more supply at thelower cost. But one of the things
that I'm really excited with is thatby spinning out and being a four profit
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company and opening up the marketplace isthat I'm really pleased to announced that we
have just launched a it's called aregulated crowdfunding red Sea Up. It's a
type of craft fund, but it'san SEC filing, so it's actually buying
common shares in companies open to generalmembers of the public, so you don't
have to be an a credit investoror or you know, super rich and
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by that I mean ordinary people.And they can become investors in for Wildlife
just by going to invest that Gardenfor Wildlife dot com. And then all
the details are there there, there'sa video, there's the perspectives, all
the rest of the stuff. Theygo there to invest that gardenfaull Loft dot
com and and learn more about it, and then if they're interested, you
know, actually join us in thejourneys as a shareholder as well as the
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customer and for folks that are interestedin doing this. And it's a you
know, you can print it outor read it through as you get to
the website. It's the invest Gardenfor Wildlife dot com. Is there is
there a dot Dogeah? Yeah,I thought I saw that that I can
put my glasses back on again.Uh yeah, invest dot Garden for Wildlife
dot com. Pretty interesting and theminimum minimal investment here is what two hundred
(36:52):
and fifty bucks? That's correct.Yeah, so anybody can get involved.
So I mean that's a it's agreat thing, and you can learn more
about what they are doing, andI think again the problems that they're trying
to solve, you learn more aboutit. Just go to their web spend
some time, you know, ifyou're off for some days during the holidays
here, just go to their websitelearn more about it. Again, it's
Garden for Wildlife dot com. Andthen if you're interested, you'll also find
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this on their invest dot Garden forWildlife dot com as well. And I
think, you know, again,the supply out there. The demand is
coming along. We're seeing that thatmore and more as you continue to get
the word out as local you know, we all do our thing to get
the word out there about using nativeplants. The demands out there. Now
the question is all right, that'sfine, So now where do I find
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it? So hopefully you know,yeah, you know. Actually I'll say
I'm even pleased that Martha Stewart tweetedabout it about two weeks ago because the
certified wildlife Habitat, which the programGarden Wildlife does through the National Wildlife Federation,
they have this program. The other'sabout three hundred thousand certified habitats aroughout
the country and hopefully all of yourlisteners one day will certify their own yards
and certified wildlife habitats. He wasthe eight thousand certified half the time,
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and so she was celebrating and that'sa lot of Federation and Garden for Wildlife
and promoted us in a tweet acouple of weeks ago, which is which
is really nice. We know iscoming. So that was always fun to
see. And when Martha tweets,everybody listens exactly. I love it shover
all of you with us this morning. Here's the CEO Garden for Wildlife by
National Wildlife Federation. Of course,your website is a Garden for Wildlife dot
(38:23):
com. And again, if you'reinterested to learn more about investing, it's
invest dot garden for Wildlife dot Comas well. You know, and again
I really appreciate you spending time withus this morning. I know you're not
feeling well, but do appreciate that. And as we can help as we
go along here, continue to useour radio shows as an avenue to get
the word out for what you're doingand to continue to push these native plants.
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I'll ask you one last thing hereas we work, and I know
you're really focused. I ask youthis before, but I always like the
folks to hear what you're saying.You know you're focused on native plants,
genus species, but what about nativeselections. Well, so here's the thing.
And Eric have been even looking outof my yard right now tho it's
winters. So pretty much everything issaid is we will only sell true native
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plants and native to where you liveas prior as I could. Finder is
so powerful, but people plant otherstuff. We're we're not purest we're up
that you can't do other things inyour yard. We just won't provide them,
right because we have a mission thatwe're specifically focused on, which is
to restore the habitat for the pollinativesof the birds. And that's what why
we do only need it, gotit, And that's and again I want
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to make sure folks understand that,uh you know, because you know there
are some native selections out there thatwill work for your area. But again
promoting the native plants, the nativespecies that are for your area. And
again if you want to check thatout, and it's a great list,
I mean, you can take thatlist with you and go to your local
garden center see what they have orwhat they don't have, and then work
back and forth. But again,just go to our website check it out.
(39:52):
It's well worth a Garden for Wildlifedot com. And again, if
you're looking to invest, this isa good opportunity for you invest dot Garden
for Wildlife dot com. Got Christmascoming up in a week or so.
What if somebody like chevar Ali askfor for Christmas? More people buy native
plants from wherever they get them from. I'm happy if they buy them from
(40:12):
us, but getting those into theground because obviously not right down in the
winter. But yeah, you canget cards for people to spread the words.
The more we spread it, morepeople see it better. Oh and
my other request is don't cut downyour native plants in the winter because the
pollinators and the birds actually still usethem throughout the winter. Wait until early
spring and then you can clean themout before the new growth comes in.
Excellent, it's not too late thatyou've already done it. Yeah, and
(40:35):
we're seeing again that trend is startingto show up a lot more and as
we clean up our perennial gardens atthe end of the year, leaving those
things alone until springtime and then cleaningit up. Yeah. So it's amazing.
It's amazing what nature does for itselfif you just let it get to
it. And you know, evenif in your own small backyard, your
in containers or whatever it may be, whatever you do, every little bit
(40:57):
helps indeed. And the thing iswe are now partnering with the Cornell a
Lot Ornithology, so they have theGreat Backguard Birds out coming up in February.
Yes, we'll be sending you outmore information about that. Happy to
talk with you guys again about thatas that's coming up, because we're really
excited about that and you know,for people who've been planning data plants,
you should be seeing a lot ofbirds coming back. Oh yeah, and
that's one we do try to promote, you know, a couple of weeks
(41:20):
in advance and make sure everybody's upto date. And doing that only takes
you fifteen minutes, or you cando it longer if you want, but
it's it's a funny. Yay aswell, Shover Ali. Always a pleasure,
appreciate you spending time with us thismorning. I hope you feel better
again. Garden for Wildlife dot com, invest dot Garden for Wildlife dot com
as well, be sure and checkboth of them out. Feel better and
we will talk to you sometime towardthe spring. Always a pleasure on Thank
(41:43):
you so much. All right,thank you good talking with you, Shover
Ali, CEO of Garden for Wildlife. And again even with our nursery here
locally sitting down talking about future plantsthat we'll be growing, which we have
to do that every year. Youknow, what are we going to grow?
What's the trends? You know thething for native plants continues to grow
and grow more and more, whichis good. And I get it where
(42:05):
they're coming from. And again I'mone of those of the diversity, you
know, the native plants and thenative selections for our area to use both.
But again, if you have ahard time finding it, finding those
native plants, this may be youranswer right here, Garden for Wildlife dot
Com. And again, looking fora gift gift card like our email or
one of our listeners, Well,you know, my son lives in a
(42:28):
certain town and wants to get moreinvolved. But you know where do I
get them a gift card for there? You go go to the Garden for
Yeah, yeah, that's it onlinedot com, Garden for Wildlife dot com
and you can get a gift cardas well. I'm sure. I'm totally
sure. Now right, quick break, we come back. We'll jump back
into the garden phone lines at eighthundred eight two three eight two five five.
Here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Landscaping made easier with your personal
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yard boy. He's in the gardenand he's Ron Wilson. This is fifty
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