February 8, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson. I
am your personal yard boy. I will help to take
care of you, give you the right message, I hope,
the right the information to make your yardening and gardening
and landscaping and yard care and the whole nine yards
indoors and out as successful as we can be. And
of course don't forget our website, it's Ron Wilson Online.
(01:00):
You'll find Rita's recipe this week, always great recipes. It's
a cheeseburger pizza just in time for that big game
tomorrow night. And of course it's a National Pizza Day
tomorrow as well, so it kind of ties in there.
Last week's recipe was baked onion dip. Baked onion dip
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and then use crusty you know, like these little crusty
pieces of a toast that you can dip that with
or whatever from our good friends at Dixondale Farms. And
if you'd like to learn more about that, get their recipes.
Go to their websites Dixondale Farms dot com and sign
up for their newsletters called the Onion Patch and you'll
get all these great recipes and get their catalog so
(01:43):
you can learn more about, you know, growing onions, even
if you don't raise onions. Even you're sitting there saying,
I don't guarden I on raised onions. I just like
learning more about stuff like this, you know, even if
you didn't. And I think you get this catalog and
you start to realize all the different onions that are
out there, and that they can't grow all different onions
in all different zones planting zones, and only some grow
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in some areas long day, short day, midday. It's pretty
interesting to read that. And you know, I, which most
people know by now, semi retired this year, cut way
back and now a part time employee, but as everyone
has said, working forty hours instead of seventy. But not
really but close, but you know, looking to get out
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there and travel a little bit more and see these things.
I would love to put like Dixondale Farms on my
bucket list to go there and see an onion farm.
Now they grow more than onions, and that would be
even more exciting. But they grow nine million onions plants
every year that they dig and ship out to everybody
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to play in their gardens and then they grow onions
and then they grow melons and produce throughout the season.
But just to go and hang out there and check
that out. Although last week it was ninety degrees there,
that's their spring weather. Ninety degrees. I don't know about that,
but I think it'd be fun to go check it
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out in the spring and winter when at least it's
eighty and ninety degrees and not one hundred and plus.
But again, Dixondale Farms dot Com and be sure and
get their catalog because there's a good reading also want
to bring up and I'm going to do this for
probably every weekend just because you know, folks that'll listen
to all three hours of our show, so we want
to make sure we get this information out there. But
(03:29):
we are learning more and more about the box tree moth.
The box tree moth is a non native invasive pest
that is attacking boxwood and there's a lot of folks
out there that have boxwood in their gardens. And I
think my thing I've been saying now is that if
you live east of the Mississippi, and this has only
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been reported so far, Canada's had it for several years
it has gone into Mission's got a little bit. New
York's got it. I think it's in Pennsylvania, now Ohio.
It's founded in south western Ohio and some landscapes there.
We think it's probably more that folks just don't realize
what's going on, but it can really do a number
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on boxwood. And the kicker is these caterpillars. You see them,
you don't see them one day, and your boxwood leaves
are brown and missing the next day. They're that quick
and even could be multiple generations. But point being is
to get the information out there, even though you don't
may not have them in your area, to get the
information out there so that you know to watch for them.
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So anybody listen to our show East of the Mississippi
down south, it doesn't matter you got boxwood. There's a
good chance this thing may show up, and it's important
to if you see it, first of all, to report
it so that the Department of Agriculture in your state
knows about it, knows that it's there, because they want
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to know this thing's like right now, got traps and
things where they're trying to detect where exactly it is
and how fast it moves, et cetera, et cetera. The
other thing is is that it can have multiple generations
depending on how warm it is in your particular zone.
In our area, they're saying it could have two, maybe
three generations, and each generation means three times the caterpillars
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that your box would. So the whole deal is for
you also not only to be able to find them
quickly and report them, but to do something about them.
There's no preventative sprayings, no preventative treatments for this recommended
at this time, but there are basically an easy kill
using about any insect aside that lists leaf eating caterpillars,
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including BT box baxilicriingiensis, which is top of the list
BT all natural, all organic. So you know it's again
can be controlled. You can need to see it, control it,
report it, then control it, and to keep your eyes
out for it. But again it's Boxtreemoth. Now. About two
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weeks ago, Joe Boggs, along with OSU Extension, put out
a three three new OSU Extension Box Treemonth fact sheets
from the beginning about the history to what to look for,
and then of course a little bit on the control
as well, so those are available for you. As a
matter of fact that I think the map's in there too,
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as far as where they are right now. If you
go to the webs our website at Ron Wilson online
dot com, scroll down to last week's I think you're
two weeks ago postings, you'll find it posted there. Also,
you can go to the Beagle site bygl dot OSU
dot edu and find it there as well. And the
map again Massachusetts, New York, I'm looking at it right now, Pennsylvania,
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Southwest Ohio, southeast Michigan, and of course up into Canada
as well. But again, if you live on the east
of the Mississippi and you have boxwood, please learn more
about the box tree moth and keep an eye open
for it in your particular area. Also for folks living
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in our area. I had a little light bulb go
off at a workshop I was at this past week
reminding us that brood fourteen cicadas are emerging in south
western and south along the southern border along the Ohio
River of Ohio, a little bit in Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee,
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West Virginia, Virginia, and other areas as well. And we
will keep you more posted on that as we get
a little bit closer, but probably start to see those
when the soil and air temperatures reach about sixty five
degrees in May. That's when they start to come out.
But it's brood fourteen cicadas. Forgot all about that one
in our area, but we'll see it. It's not as
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heavy as some of the other broods, but it's it's
going to be here, so we'll keep you posted on
that too. Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
Peton sent a Natty good morning.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Hey, good morning, Ron. Yeah, that onion guy, that's something else.
I was kind of wondering what he smells like.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'll tell you he's one of the nicest guys in
the world, and I would love it.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Sounds like it is.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I would love to go there sometime and just hang
out for a few days and watch how they you know,
you look at a huge onion form like that. I
just think it'd be interesting to see how they do that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That's incredible. I was kind of wondering if he had
a tip on the best way to eradicate the smell
and you cut them.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Uh you know what. Anyway, he probably does, Yes, email him.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Hey, So, look, I want to get my along looking
really nice in spring, and I was hoping to get
some pre emersion down maybe twice before I overseed. Can
you help me schedule that out?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Uh? You can't. You know. The thing of it is
with pre immersion herbicides, if you depending on which one
you use and depending on when you put it down,
could last you all spring, all right. The pre diamine
which is in like the Ferdlom furlom's all seasons that
last can last you like three to four months or
(09:07):
even longer. And if you watch the soil temperatures, in
the air temperatures and ride it out to the right
to the very end when it's just getting ready to
germinate the at fifty to fifty five degrees consistently and
put it down at that point, it could last you.
Because now we're talking usually late March, early April, April, May, June, July,
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that's four months, could last you all the way through.
So your seating point, bing is your seating wouldn't be
peed until September.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Wow, now would it be okey to put pre merging
down now? So I got February, March, April, May, the.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Thing of it is, you're wasting. To me, you're wasting
pre emergent putting it down right now because there's nothing
out there, nothing besides the winter annuals that have already
germinated and they're already green there getting ready to grow.
You're kind of wasting it because it's early now. Lawn
care companies, at the end of February early March, we'll
start applying pre emergent herbicides. Typically it's the pre diamine type,
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which lasts very long period of time. Uh. Because they've
got so many customers, they'll put it down early, but
they know it'll last into the into the early summer season.
So you know, putting it down early, you're kind of
just wasting your money doing that. That's why I say,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Flip it around. Is it okay to seed first and
then put down pre emerging later on? How after about
that method?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, and that's the we'll get back to that. So
if you put the seed down now, what you have
to do is wait until the seed germinates and grows.
And you've got to give that plenty of time for
all of that to germinate and grow all right, same time,
when the crab grass starts to germinate and grow. So no,
that doesn't work either. Now here's here's what you can do,
(10:51):
all right, one last one, last option you can I mean,
do you have a lot of bear spots? Is it
really really open?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well? I got a whole bunch of little, small little
things going on underneath the grass. I don't know what
they're like, liking almost or small little beads.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Okay, uh?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And uh, you know I do get just a lot
of different kinds of wheat growing throughout the course of
the summer fall.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Okay uh. And and here's what you could you can
do Scott's step one for newly seeded lawns as a
pre emerged herb side in it that lasts about forty
five to fifty sixty days. That allows grass seed to germinate.
But it does go after crab grass and a few
other weed seeds. That is available for you. It's a
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little bit more expensive, but and not everybody has it,
but it's available. So you could go out and dormant
seed this month, get your seed down, get it in place,
very important. Then you could come back watching the soil temperatures.
You could come back then sometime mid to late March.
Put that down and that's a starter forerilizer plus the
pre emersion herbicide. Let your grass seats start to germinate
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and grow, and hopefully the sixty days gives it enough
time for all those seats to germinate and start to grow.
You get a mowing or two underneath it. Then you
could come back with a second application as you were
talking about earlier, and have that run you through the
rest of the spring and through the summer season as well.
So that would be another option for you. But it's
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it's Scott's for pre emmergen it's for newly seated lawns.
It's in that Step one program, okay, and not everybody
has it, but it is out there. It does work.
It does help in situations where you need to do
the seating, and that starter fertilizer is a great fertilizer
for the entire lawn as well.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Okay, great, I'll go that method. Now, one last question.
I got a cherry tree, little ornamental cherry tree that
I have never pruned off all the soccer branches. Is
that too late to do it in the springtime right now?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Or do I need to do that fall suckers around
the base or at the top, are all.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Through all over the limbs, just everywhere in the top
of the street.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Remember that, you know, whole branch removal, even when it
comes to suckers, can be done anytime during the year.
So anytime you're out there with a pair of pruners
or loppers and you want to take those off, half
at it. At this stage in the game, I probably
would wait until we get into March, a little closer
to the spring season. I think you'll find with cherries,
even in the fruiting cherries and peaches and things like
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that a little more successful to It's just better to
prune them later in the winter early spring. They just
seem to respond better other than you know, than doing
it too early in the winter. So I would probably
hold off a little bit, wait till we get to
the first of March or so while they're still dormant,
and go through and clean it all out. And anytime
pete do's start to pop up around the base or whatever,
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you got your pruners in hand, clip them off any anytime.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, you ruined my dad nothing to do today now,
so sorry, I guess I'll guess I'll vacuum the carpet.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Now you can go out, hey, you can go out
and rake those spots where you're gonna do some seeding.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I do need to do that, get those cleaned out,
and you could seed today. I mean you anytime over
the next two or three weeks. A great time for
dormancy about that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Perfect, perfect, Okay, great. I do appreciate your time and effort.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yes, all right, good talking to you. Eight hundred eight
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remind you coming up next week on Valentine's Day weekend,
it is the Great Backyard Bird Count. And you know,
we've talked about this for years and years and years.
The folks at Cornell, the Audubon Society, all of them
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went together started doing this, you know, the survey that
you can do called the Great Backyard Bird Count. They
do this across the entire around the entire world. All right,
So This is open to everybody, and it's really interesting
because all they're asking folks to do is take fifteen
minutes of your time or more and chart the number
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of of the birds that you see in your backyard
or front yard or wherever you're looking out the window
what comes into your yard, and it gives them then
a census as far as bird populations up and down,
what we're seeing in different areas, things like that. You
could do it every day. You can do it for
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you want to spend doing it. But I think it
runs through Thursday through Sunday or Friday through Monday. But
you can learn more about it just All you have
to do is if you go to the National Wildlife
Federation's website. They've got it there. Cornell's got it on
theirs Google Great Backyard Bird Count. That's a great they'll
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take you to it as well. But it's easy to participate.
February fourteenth, Valentine's Day, Friday through that Monday the seventeenth,
and again fifteen minutes or more. If you do it
once over the four days would be great. Do it
every day would be super great. To get your spouse involved,
or the grandkids or the kids, get out there and
learn about it. And if you go to the website
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you can actually download apps to help you out. They
actually have charts as far as what birds you'll probably
see you in your backyard to help you recognize what's
going on. But it's very, very important. It's a major deal.
Monica Brubaker our Wild Winged Wonder who helps us out
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So again, this is worldwide. This isn't just here in
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Let's see here. Let's go to a Wadsworth, Ohio. Mister Paul,
Good morning, Hey mister buddy, I'm good serving yourself.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Oh not too bad. We're having a these you should
pulled up here. And uh, I am so glad that
the backyard bird count hasn't started yet, because Miss Monica
would be so angry at me. I've neglected my birds.
But I just walked out of the TFC my local Wadsworth,
and I've got my suits and my uh nut blend,
so I'm gonna go give him a you know, a
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treat this morning, get back to my breakfast in a
show that we're always talking about.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
There you go, Yeah, but hey, I.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Heard you a little spiel there about mister reartired not
work at seventy instead of forty or whatever the other
way around.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
That'll probably be seventy eventually.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, I know that's things are. I'm going
to way better position this year for my nursery stuff,
and things are going to be explode number. But uh,
I was just wondering, did you with all this hopefully
extra time you're going to have, you're gonna be getting
some of the show circuit a little bit more like say,
are uh you know big Cleveland National Home and Guarden Show.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Oh, I don't know. Maybe maybe in a couple of years.
I'm still I mean, I have officially retired, so I'm
part time, but I'm still working a lot. So this
year will be just kind of a transition period. You
know how that goes, and then we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You know, I try to consult with Gary Sullivan, who
you know has been retired for probably thirty years, and
how he handles it. Oh, well, you know, Gary hasn't
done anything for I hope he's not listening, but I
don't know, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, but well yeah,
I'll consult with Gary. Yeah, I'll consult with Gary and
(24:55):
see what you know how to do it like Gary's
done it. But yeah, no, but I'm looking, I'm look.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
My whole goal is to just start cutting back a
little bit, get a little more free time. And you know,
in the springtime, as you well know, and when you're
in this business, you don't get to see a lot
besides what's going on in your nursery and your garden center.
So yeah, after this year, we'll see what happens. But
I hope to get out there and do a little
bit more of that. But we're going to be at
the Columbus Home of Garden Show next Saturday, So if
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anybody's in the yeah, anybody's in the Columbus area, well,
we'll be there I think from ten until noon. So
you know, if you're up in that area and it's
aren't not many aren't many home garden Like Cincinnati Mcgarden
Show is not happening for a couple of years because
they're redoing the convention center. So you know, if you're
looking for a home of garden show in Indiana or
Ohio or Indiana close by, go to Columbus. It kicks
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off next week.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I had two hours up for you and two hours
down for me. There you go, familiar with the area.
What's the venue over there?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Again?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's at the fair grounds. Yeah, okay, yep, awesome.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, so just it's in it to get up. And
we're already kind of doing stuff the nursery, but it's
kind of exploded here saying yeah, just we started, you know,
as we start getting those fifties.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
And yeah, we started potting in our greenhouse about ten
days ago some of the early plants and then all
our seedlings are rooted trees and that we'll start doing
that next week and we do ten thousands of those
for future plant availability. Uh so yeah, and you could
tell emails coming in have a doubled already. So folks
(26:36):
are chomping at the bit and getting ready to go.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Paul, man, I.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Say, that's so awesome, And I really love the onion guys.
I was loving that this morning.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I say it because I'm a I'm a potato and onion,
you know, Polish, German and leave me and whatever. Crazy nuts.
So so anytime you got these food guys on, I
just I.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Love it, man.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
It gets so much information off that, like the flower
thing and no one that's harvest and they're just just
thank you so much for putting the food guys on,
like that vegetable.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
They're the specialists. They know that, you know, they know
what they've been They've been doing that for a long time.
So you know, he's and he's a he's a hoot, man,
I tell you. And see, that's something I would like
to do when I get more time to get out
and travel around. I'd really like to go to places
like that onion farms and that to see how they
do that. I mean, nine hundred million onion plants is crazy.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I couldn't hurt almost off my Yes. See when I
heard him say that, or the ninety degrees in springtime,
I'm like, yeah, that's all right, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I definitely go during the winter and spring, and I
won't be there in the summer. We got to run
Paul here, where's he at?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Man? Yeah? Yeah exactly?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
So yea cool?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
All right, good talking to you, stay in touch with us,
all right, good talking with you. So Louis, will we
go and a good morning the morning?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I am great in you?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
I'm doing okay. I had two.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Questions, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Question question one, when do you start to make us
things in house undergrowth like coursed and too? I bought
hens and chickens on seeds. They died, hens and chickens
full grown. Put them in a concrete pot, plastic pot,
and all kinds of pot, and all they do is
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just shrivel up and turn to brown tape. I don't
know what I'm doing to the hens and chickens, and
I'm just new it's storting the seeds.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Such a made of plant.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
All right, Have you bought the seeds yet?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I bought the seed and they're in a seed pack.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yes, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
If you turn a seed pack over a lot of times,
what they'll tell you on that seed pack is how
long it takes from germination to transplanting outside. And usually
with most tomatoes, from the time you put the seeds
in and they start to germinate, it takes about eight
weeks for them to be of transplantable size to going
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out into your garden. So then what you do, Anna
is take a look at when is that kind of
the as frost date for the Louisville area. Now, you know,
we're only a couple hours away from you, and we're
right around the first of May, so you may be
April twenty fifth or so somewhere in that range, but
shoot for the first of May. So that means you
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count backwards from the first of May. All right, So
we got April, there's four to five weeks there. Then
you get into March and three weeks there, so you're
looking at starting those right around the first of March, okay,
And that way they'll be just by the time you
get to the first of May, they should be just
right as far as transplanting size. And by the first
(29:36):
of May, you know, hopefully we've gotten into some good
warm weather and you're able to take them at that
point outside acclimate them, harden them off, which takes about
ten days or so, and then get them planted in
your containers or gardens or whatever you want to do,
or a garden or whatever it is. But yeah, if
you turn that seatpack over a lot of times, they'll
give you information on how long it takes from germination
to transplant size. And then you can just count back
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from your frost free date. And like I said, we're
around the first of May, so you're probably you know,
you're you're a week ahead of us. So I would say,
you know, any anytime that last week of April probably
would be an okay time early, but an okay time
to look to start planting outside. Now for the hens
and chicks, are you trying to grow those indoors or outdoors?
Speaker 6 (30:18):
I'm kind of grow them outdoors.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Okay, So in a container with a hinge and chicks.
The good thing about it is they don't like to
be wet, so they like to be dry. So if
you're not watering as often as you know, very often,
that's that's actually a good thing. But I think we
wind up rotting them off in containers because we water
too much. And and again depends on the type of
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potting soil you use, how quickly it dries out. They
want to be in full sun, how quickly it dries
out from that, But they would once they get themselves
rooted into that pot they can take some awfully long
dry periods without without a good watering. And they'll kind
of tell you that because you can see them start
to shrivel up just a little bit you water, and
(31:01):
then they're right back at it again. So what usually
it's the watering issue that becomes a problem with seed them.
Uh And again, like I say, they don't they're not
a cactus, but they don't like to stay constantly wet,
So water them, soak them well, let them dry out,
stay dry a little bit, soak them well, let them
dry out. Keep them more on the dry side once
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they get rooted in than you do on the wet side.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Oh okay, oh love, thank you so very much. Out
why they would turn into what they did was they
looked like paper. They stayed there. They were beautiful when
I got them, but then when you felt them, they
were they was like tape. They were hands but like paper.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So what what did the soil feel like?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Dry?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And and maybe maybe it's staying too dry and that
can happen too. I mean, like I say, they're not
a cactus, but they don't like to be extremely wet.
But they do need moisture on a regular basis, So
you know, you get to kind of find that happy
medium in there. But again, uh, and if they if
you try it again and they start to do that
take a picture. I'm an email it to me and
(32:12):
I'll try to help you out as much as I can,
uh by looking at the picture.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Okay, thank you, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Anna.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Good talking with you Anna in Louisville. There you go,
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Speaker 1 (34:04):
Welcome back. You're in the guarden with Ron Wilson's Time
for the man, the myth, the legend. He is the
most listened to home improvement show host and the entire
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with more information than you could ever imagine about home improvement,
is Garysullivan Online dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one,
(34:28):
the only, Gary Sullivant.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
And mister Wilson. A question I have for you, what
did your day look like when it hit seventy degrees
this week?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Uh? Things were popping there you go. Emails just doubled
this week. Really, Oh my gosh, do you have your
overalls on? I mean and request for landscape designers to
come out to the home just doubled this week, so
you know, folks are chomping at the bit to get.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Going, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Did I do anything outside this week gardening wise, No,
I did not.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
You didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think I picked up a few sticks around the yard,
just walking around looking, picked up a little debris here
and there, and uh, there is a lot.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Of debris this year.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I think that was about Oh. I took pictures of
my flowering cabbage and kale.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
It's still flowering.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
No, it's still purple and red and white. Really, it
flowers in the spring if it makes it through the winter.
But I had pictures of that gary. As the snow
started to meld off of it, I get this whole
bed of them in different colors, and all of a sudden,
this maroon, lavender red foley started to stick up through
the snow and the snow just kept him perfect. And
(35:48):
now the snow's gone and they're all showing great colors.
So I could actually have them in flower this spring
if they can hang in there for a couple more months.
And they look really good right now. Way underused in
the landscape for fall for fall.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
You know, I used to plant that a lot, but
you're right, it is underused. I haven't planned it for
a while. I used to like it. I don't know
why I got away from it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I don't know why people got it and they don't
plant it like they used to. But I'll tell you
what that thing. If they hang in there and you
have a halfway decent winter, you've got color all and
mean it's bright color all winter long. By the way,
seed savers exchange. I had a little thing this week
about what's your tomato? What's your heirloom tomato name? You know,
it's like, you know, you put your some of the
(36:29):
things about you in there, and then it comes up
with a name. Should you have a tomato named after
you for today? For you, mister Sullivan, your heirloom tomato
name would be Grandpa Sullivan's giant tasty tomato. I like that,
not bad. Yeah, I like that. Mine was Grandpa Wilson's.
(36:50):
And of course the grandpa comes on your age, because
it could be little anti uncle, doctor or grandma.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Ah, we're being profiled.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, we're being profiled. And I was ravishing globe Master.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Oh my gosh, you are the you are the man now.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I couldn't. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
You know, Ron, I've known you for a long time. Yeah,
I don't think ravishing really comes to mind for either
one of us.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Does it for me? And you know when when Paul
was asking about am I going to go to any
trade shows and stuff now that I'm semi retired, I
first started to say, I'm not Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
That's semi retired?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Is the trade shows?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I'm trying to just tell you that before you think
you really are, but you're really not.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
But you're really not.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
You're really not.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I know I was running out of time already stuff
because it got started getting so busy.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
It sounds like a good plan, but no, you know,
it's like a It's like a well running drain in
the vanity and it.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Just takes you down the dream transitioning.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Yeah, little whirlpool.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh well, it's just the way it works. It happens. Yeah,
I know, Hey, I sent you a picture of that candy?
Yeah you did you remember that?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
My mom? Those are those? Are my moms?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Sitting on a shelf And I saw those the other
day and went I forgot about those.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
You were kind of a big candy guy, though, were you. No?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
But no, there you and I were with each had
our own candy bar with our pictures on the front
of it.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I actually yes, alright, then I had a bottle of
wine with my picture on it.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I did two from uh Doug? Yeah, three sisters.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yeah, yeah, I had one and the guy gave it
to me and I was I thought, well, that's really
nice things. He goes, well, if you're going to drink
and drink it now? Oh I never drink it.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Like, was that the one from Doug or was that
for somebody else?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
That was from somebody else. I got a couple things
with my picture on it.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I thought, Doug said, you want to that was all
May twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, he may have. I had a couple of things,
A couple of candy bar wrappers, a couple of bottles
of wine. Don't I think there was a beer can
with just the name and no picture. I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Didn't you have like a tool?
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Oh, we had lots of tons of posh.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Didn't have a picture on it.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Channel locks. Yeah, it just had our logo on it. Yeah,
it was pretty cool. It was neat.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I had the gloves. Remember those gardening gloves? Oh yeah,
those were running on the back. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Man, I'll tell you what. Still got your gloves?
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Uh, there's a pair of floating somewhere.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yeah, I think I still have a pair. Two. We
had quite a few. One.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Wonder what that child that candy taste like. That's I
was trying to figure that out. That had to be
twenty years old plus.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah, I don't know. Uh, better have a good dentist
would be the only thing I'd have to say.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I don't know, mister Wilson. You got your list started, though.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I have getting stopped done. It's interesting some of the
questions I'm getting right now as far as what you
can do this time of the year. Of course, it
gets confusing with the pre emerged or besides and trying
to see and you know, all that kind of stuff,
But we try to walk people through it so.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
It's you know, one of the things I was going
to talk today about really is exactly what you experienced
happening this week, and that is get ready, man. I mean,
if you got to make you know your calls you say,
doubled in you know, lining up contractors, spring projects that
you might be doing that might be a little bit
(40:28):
over your head, or you need some help physically to
get those jobs done. Be it in the gardener at home,
start lining it up, because time goes fast in the springtime. Yeah,
once you get you know, mid February, I mean, all
of a sudden, it's May and you're like, oh, well,
let's call somebody about a deck. It's like, well, too late.
(40:50):
You can probably do it. But don't think you're going
to get it done on a Memorial Day.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Why have that ready for you for Labor Day weekend?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Yep, that'll be about the game. That'll be about the
game plan. Even just lining up even maintenance issues like
a chimney. You're not really thinking about chimney and fireplaces.
We're still using them in a lot of places. But
line that cleaning up and get it done like in
June and kind of beat the rush for next fall.
I know we're not always that forward looking, but I'll
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tell you if you are, it really makes a difference.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And you know the thing with gardening, landscaping, yardening, whatever
it may be in the springtime is that the weather
is so more much more variable, right than it is
in the fall. Sure, weather's to me is much more consistent.
You got three good months of gardening. Where's in the
springtime you got you know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Two days a week if it's not right, yeah, if.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
It's not raining, so you try to work things in
and then the next thing, you know, it's just springs
and it's summer.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, exactly, So yes, we're at that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Landscape plans, gardening plans, anything like that, home improvement plans,
you better get them in place right now, get your
name in the pok because if you don't.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Yeah, I got a big long list, you know, decks,
concrete repairs, ceiling, roofing, insulation, painting, you know, these are
all the things we got. Controlling water. How many times
we talk about that during the course of a weekend,
you know. But if you need help with that, and
you're going to look for people to do that, you
better get on it now.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
When it comes to you know, you and I both
like we and forget especially for on the deck for cleaning,
and of course use it in the shower all the
time as well, But you know that's there's a point
where you stop using that in the fall. Because of
the weather, you can use it pretty much all the
way through though, but in the winter. But yeah, well
that's what I mean. Yeah, when you start getting people
(42:44):
fired up at this point, if you want to use
it now, go for.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Well, yeah you could use it now.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
It'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Yeah, it'll be fine. There you go. Certainly get rid
of those black streaks off the roof. That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
I won't be staying in the deck, but could be
cleaning it off.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Gary Sullivan in his website, Garyslivan online Dot, have a
great show, my friend.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
All right, thank you, sir, all.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
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Thanks of course to Danny Gleeson, our producer, because as
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every Saturday morning. Now, do yourself a favor. Get your
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You better get your name in the pot native plants,
(43:25):
native selections. What are you gonna do to pamper your worms,
soil amendments. You're gonna get the kids and dogs in
wall with gardening. I hope so. But by all means,
make this weekend the absolute best weekend of your life.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
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Speaker 1 (43:42):
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(01:00):
You'll find Rita's recipe this week, always great recipes. It's
a cheeseburger pizza just in time for that big game
tomorrow night. And of course it's a National Pizza Day
tomorrow as well, so it kind of ties in there.
Last week's recipe was baked onion dip. Baked onion dip
(01:21):
and then use crusty you know, like these little crusty
pieces of a toast that you can dip that with
or whatever from our good friends at Dixondale Farms. And
if you'd like to learn more about that, get their recipes.
Go to their websites Dixondale Farms dot com and sign
up for their newsletters called the Onion Patch and you'll
get all these great recipes and get their catalog so
(01:43):
you can learn more about, you know, growing onions, even
if you don't raise onions. Even you're sitting there saying,
I don't guarden I on raised onions. I just like
learning more about stuff like this, you know, even if
you didn't. And I think you get this catalog and
you start to realize all the different onions that are
out there, and that they can't grow all different onions
in all different zones planting zones, and only some grow
(02:04):
in some areas long day, short day, midday. It's pretty
interesting to read that. And you know, I, which most
people know by now, semi retired this year, cut way
back and now a part time employee, but as everyone
has said, working forty hours instead of seventy. But not
really but close, but you know, looking to get out
(02:24):
there and travel a little bit more and see these things.
I would love to put like Dixondale Farms on my
bucket list to go there and see an onion farm.
Now they grow more than onions, and that would be
even more exciting. But they grow nine million onions plants
every year that they dig and ship out to everybody
(02:46):
to play in their gardens and then they grow onions
and then they grow melons and produce throughout the season.
But just to go and hang out there and check
that out. Although last week it was ninety degrees there,
that's their spring weather. Ninety degrees. I don't know about that,
but I think it'd be fun to go check it
(03:06):
out in the spring and winter when at least it's
eighty and ninety degrees and not one hundred and plus.
But again, Dixondale Farms dot Com and be sure and
get their catalog because there's a good reading also want
to bring up and I'm going to do this for
probably every weekend just because you know, folks that'll listen
to all three hours of our show, so we want
to make sure we get this information out there. But
(03:29):
we are learning more and more about the box tree moth.
The box tree moth is a non native invasive pest
that is attacking boxwood and there's a lot of folks
out there that have boxwood in their gardens. And I
think my thing I've been saying now is that if
you live east of the Mississippi, and this has only
(03:50):
been reported so far, Canada's had it for several years
it has gone into Mission's got a little bit. New
York's got it. I think it's in Pennsylvania, now Ohio.
It's founded in south western Ohio and some landscapes there.
We think it's probably more that folks just don't realize
what's going on, but it can really do a number
(04:13):
on boxwood. And the kicker is these caterpillars. You see them,
you don't see them one day, and your boxwood leaves
are brown and missing the next day. They're that quick
and even could be multiple generations. But point being is
to get the information out there, even though you don't
may not have them in your area, to get the
information out there so that you know to watch for them.
(04:36):
So anybody listen to our show East of the Mississippi
down south, it doesn't matter you got boxwood. There's a
good chance this thing may show up, and it's important
to if you see it, first of all, to report
it so that the Department of Agriculture in your state
knows about it, knows that it's there, because they want
(04:57):
to know this thing's like right now, got traps and
things where they're trying to detect where exactly it is
and how fast it moves, et cetera, et cetera. The
other thing is is that it can have multiple generations
depending on how warm it is in your particular zone.
In our area, they're saying it could have two, maybe
three generations, and each generation means three times the caterpillars
(05:19):
that your box would. So the whole deal is for
you also not only to be able to find them
quickly and report them, but to do something about them.
There's no preventative sprayings, no preventative treatments for this recommended
at this time, but there are basically an easy kill
using about any insect aside that lists leaf eating caterpillars,
(05:43):
including BT box baxilicriingiensis, which is top of the list
BT all natural, all organic. So you know it's again
can be controlled. You can need to see it, control it,
report it, then control it, and to keep your eyes
out for it. But again it's Boxtreemoth. Now. About two
(06:03):
weeks ago, Joe Boggs, along with OSU Extension, put out
a three three new OSU Extension Box Treemonth fact sheets
from the beginning about the history to what to look for,
and then of course a little bit on the control
as well, so those are available for you. As a
matter of fact that I think the map's in there too,
(06:24):
as far as where they are right now. If you
go to the webs our website at Ron Wilson online
dot com, scroll down to last week's I think you're
two weeks ago postings, you'll find it posted there. Also,
you can go to the Beagle site bygl dot OSU
dot edu and find it there as well. And the
map again Massachusetts, New York, I'm looking at it right now, Pennsylvania,
(06:47):
Southwest Ohio, southeast Michigan, and of course up into Canada
as well. But again, if you live on the east
of the Mississippi and you have boxwood, please learn more
about the box tree moth and keep an eye open
for it in your particular area. Also for folks living
(07:10):
in our area. I had a little light bulb go
off at a workshop I was at this past week
reminding us that brood fourteen cicadas are emerging in south
western and south along the southern border along the Ohio
River of Ohio, a little bit in Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee,
(07:30):
West Virginia, Virginia, and other areas as well. And we
will keep you more posted on that as we get
a little bit closer, but probably start to see those
when the soil and air temperatures reach about sixty five
degrees in May. That's when they start to come out.
But it's brood fourteen cicadas. Forgot all about that one
in our area, but we'll see it. It's not as
(07:51):
heavy as some of the other broods, but it's it's
going to be here, so we'll keep you posted on
that too. Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
Peton sent a Natty good morning.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Hey, good morning, Ron. Yeah, that onion guy, that's something else.
I was kind of wondering what he smells like.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'll tell you he's one of the nicest guys in
the world, and I would love it.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Sounds like it is.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I would love to go there sometime and just hang
out for a few days and watch how they you know,
you look at a huge onion form like that. I
just think it'd be interesting to see how they do that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That's incredible. I was kind of wondering if he had
a tip on the best way to eradicate the smell
and you cut them.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Uh you know what. Anyway, he probably does, Yes, email him.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Hey, So, look, I want to get my along looking
really nice in spring, and I was hoping to get
some pre emersion down maybe twice before I overseed. Can
you help me schedule that out?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Uh? You can't. You know. The thing of it is
with pre immersion herbicides, if you depending on which one
you use and depending on when you put it down,
could last you all spring, all right. The pre diamine
which is in like the Ferdlom furlom's all seasons that
last can last you like three to four months or
(09:07):
even longer. And if you watch the soil temperatures, in
the air temperatures and ride it out to the right
to the very end when it's just getting ready to
germinate the at fifty to fifty five degrees consistently and
put it down at that point, it could last you.
Because now we're talking usually late March, early April, April, May, June, July,
(09:28):
that's four months, could last you all the way through.
So your seating point, bing is your seating wouldn't be
peed until September.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Wow, now would it be okey to put pre merging
down now? So I got February, March, April, May, the.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Thing of it is, you're wasting. To me, you're wasting
pre emergent putting it down right now because there's nothing
out there, nothing besides the winter annuals that have already
germinated and they're already green there getting ready to grow.
You're kind of wasting it because it's early now. Lawn
care companies, at the end of February early March, we'll
start applying pre emergent herbicides. Typically it's the pre diamine type,
(10:07):
which lasts very long period of time. Uh. Because they've
got so many customers, they'll put it down early, but
they know it'll last into the into the early summer season.
So you know, putting it down early, you're kind of
just wasting your money doing that. That's why I say,
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Flip it around. Is it okay to seed first and
then put down pre emerging later on? How after about
that method?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, and that's the we'll get back to that. So
if you put the seed down now, what you have
to do is wait until the seed germinates and grows.
And you've got to give that plenty of time for
all of that to germinate and grow all right, same time,
when the crab grass starts to germinate and grow. So no,
that doesn't work either. Now here's here's what you can do,
(10:51):
all right, one last one, last option you can I mean,
do you have a lot of bear spots? Is it
really really open?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well? I got a whole bunch of little, small little
things going on underneath the grass. I don't know what
they're like, liking almost or small little beads.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Okay, uh?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And uh, you know I do get just a lot
of different kinds of wheat growing throughout the course of
the summer fall.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Okay uh. And and here's what you could you can
do Scott's step one for newly seeded lawns as a
pre emerged herb side in it that lasts about forty
five to fifty sixty days. That allows grass seed to germinate.
But it does go after crab grass and a few
other weed seeds. That is available for you. It's a
(11:42):
little bit more expensive, but and not everybody has it,
but it's available. So you could go out and dormant
seed this month, get your seed down, get it in place,
very important. Then you could come back watching the soil temperatures.
You could come back then sometime mid to late March.
Put that down and that's a starter forerilizer plus the
pre emersion herbicide. Let your grass seats start to germinate
(12:04):
and grow, and hopefully the sixty days gives it enough
time for all those seats to germinate and start to grow.
You get a mowing or two underneath it. Then you
could come back with a second application as you were
talking about earlier, and have that run you through the
rest of the spring and through the summer season as well.
So that would be another option for you. But it's
(12:25):
it's Scott's for pre emmergen it's for newly seated lawns.
It's in that Step one program, okay, and not everybody
has it, but it is out there. It does work.
It does help in situations where you need to do
the seating, and that starter fertilizer is a great fertilizer
for the entire lawn as well.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Okay, great, I'll go that method. Now, one last question.
I got a cherry tree, little ornamental cherry tree that
I have never pruned off all the soccer branches. Is
that too late to do it in the springtime right now?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Or do I need to do that fall suckers around
the base or at the top, are all.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Through all over the limbs, just everywhere in the top
of the street.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Remember that, you know, whole branch removal, even when it
comes to suckers, can be done anytime during the year.
So anytime you're out there with a pair of pruners
or loppers and you want to take those off, half
at it. At this stage in the game, I probably
would wait until we get into March, a little closer
to the spring season. I think you'll find with cherries,
even in the fruiting cherries and peaches and things like
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that a little more successful to It's just better to
prune them later in the winter early spring. They just
seem to respond better other than you know, than doing
it too early in the winter. So I would probably
hold off a little bit, wait till we get to
the first of March or so while they're still dormant,
and go through and clean it all out. And anytime
pete do's start to pop up around the base or whatever,
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you got your pruners in hand, clip them off any anytime.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, you ruined my dad nothing to do today now,
so sorry, I guess I'll guess I'll vacuum the carpet.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Now you can go out, hey, you can go out
and rake those spots where you're gonna do some seeding.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I do need to do that, get those cleaned out,
and you could seed today. I mean you anytime over
the next two or three weeks. A great time for
dormancy about that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Perfect, perfect, Okay, great. I do appreciate your time and effort.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
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it is the Great Backyard Bird Count. And you know,
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The folks at Cornell, the Audubon Society, all of them
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you can do called the Great Backyard Bird Count. They
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So This is open to everybody, and it's really interesting
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minutes of your time or more and chart the number
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February fourteenth, Valentine's Day, Friday through that Monday the seventeenth,
and again fifteen minutes or more. If you do it
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or the grandkids or the kids, get out there and
learn about it. And if you go to the website
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actually have charts as far as what birds you'll probably
see you in your backyard to help you recognize what's
going on. But it's very, very important. It's a major deal.
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Let's see here. Let's go to a Wadsworth, Ohio. Mister Paul,
Good morning, Hey mister buddy, I'm good serving yourself.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Oh not too bad. We're having a these you should
pulled up here. And uh, I am so glad that
the backyard bird count hasn't started yet, because Miss Monica
would be so angry at me. I've neglected my birds.
But I just walked out of the TFC my local Wadsworth,
and I've got my suits and my uh nut blend,
so I'm gonna go give him a you know, a
(23:44):
treat this morning, get back to my breakfast in a
show that we're always talking about.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
There you go, Yeah, but hey, I.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Heard you a little spiel there about mister reartired not
work at seventy instead of forty or whatever the other
way around.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
That'll probably be seventy eventually.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, I know that's things are. I'm going
to way better position this year for my nursery stuff,
and things are going to be explode number. But uh,
I was just wondering, did you with all this hopefully
extra time you're going to have, you're gonna be getting
some of the show circuit a little bit more like say,
are uh you know big Cleveland National Home and Guarden Show.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Oh, I don't know. Maybe maybe in a couple of years.
I'm still I mean, I have officially retired, so I'm
part time, but I'm still working a lot. So this
year will be just kind of a transition period. You
know how that goes, and then we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You know, I try to consult with Gary Sullivan, who
you know has been retired for probably thirty years, and
how he handles it. Oh, well, you know, Gary hasn't
done anything for I hope he's not listening, but I
don't know, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, but well yeah,
I'll consult with Gary. Yeah, I'll consult with Gary and
(24:55):
see what you know how to do it like Gary's
done it. But yeah, no, but I'm looking, I'm look.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
My whole goal is to just start cutting back a
little bit, get a little more free time. And you know,
in the springtime, as you well know, and when you're
in this business, you don't get to see a lot
besides what's going on in your nursery and your garden center.
So yeah, after this year, we'll see what happens. But
I hope to get out there and do a little
bit more of that. But we're going to be at
the Columbus Home of Garden Show next Saturday, So if
(25:21):
anybody's in the yeah, anybody's in the Columbus area, well,
we'll be there I think from ten until noon. So
you know, if you're up in that area and it's
aren't not many aren't many home garden Like Cincinnati Mcgarden
Show is not happening for a couple of years because
they're redoing the convention center. So you know, if you're
looking for a home of garden show in Indiana or
Ohio or Indiana close by, go to Columbus. It kicks
(25:44):
off next week.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I had two hours up for you and two hours
down for me. There you go, familiar with the area.
What's the venue over there?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Again?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
It's at the fair grounds. Yeah, okay, yep, awesome.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, so just it's in it to get up. And
we're already kind of doing stuff the nursery, but it's
kind of exploded here saying yeah, just we started, you know,
as we start getting those fifties.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
And yeah, we started potting in our greenhouse about ten
days ago some of the early plants and then all
our seedlings are rooted trees and that we'll start doing
that next week and we do ten thousands of those
for future plant availability. Uh so yeah, and you could
tell emails coming in have a doubled already. So folks
(26:36):
are chomping at the bit and getting ready to go.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Paul, man, I.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Say, that's so awesome, And I really love the onion guys.
I was loving that this morning.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Man.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
I say it because I'm a I'm a potato and onion,
you know, Polish, German and leave me and whatever. Crazy nuts.
So so anytime you got these food guys on, I
just I.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Love it, man.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
It gets so much information off that, like the flower
thing and no one that's harvest and they're just just
thank you so much for putting the food guys on,
like that vegetable.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
They're the specialists. They know that, you know, they know
what they've been They've been doing that for a long time.
So you know, he's and he's a he's a hoot, man,
I tell you. And see, that's something I would like
to do when I get more time to get out
and travel around. I'd really like to go to places
like that onion farms and that to see how they
do that. I mean, nine hundred million onion plants is crazy.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I couldn't hurt almost off my Yes. See when I
heard him say that, or the ninety degrees in springtime,
I'm like, yeah, that's all right, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I definitely go during the winter and spring, and I
won't be there in the summer. We got to run
Paul here, where's he at?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Man? Yeah? Yeah exactly?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
So yea cool?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
All right, good talking to you, stay in touch with us,
all right, good talking with you. So Louis, will we
go and a good morning the morning?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I am great in you?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
I'm doing okay. I had two.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Questions, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Question question one, when do you start to make us
things in house undergrowth like coursed and too? I bought
hens and chickens on seeds. They died, hens and chickens
full grown. Put them in a concrete pot, plastic pot,
and all kinds of pot, and all they do is
(28:17):
just shrivel up and turn to brown tape. I don't
know what I'm doing to the hens and chickens, and
I'm just new it's storting the seeds.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Such a made of plant.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
All right, Have you bought the seeds yet?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I bought the seed and they're in a seed pack.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yes, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
If you turn a seed pack over a lot of times,
what they'll tell you on that seed pack is how
long it takes from germination to transplanting outside. And usually
with most tomatoes, from the time you put the seeds
in and they start to germinate, it takes about eight
weeks for them to be of transplantable size to going
(28:53):
out into your garden. So then what you do, Anna
is take a look at when is that kind of
the as frost date for the Louisville area. Now, you know,
we're only a couple hours away from you, and we're
right around the first of May, so you may be
April twenty fifth or so somewhere in that range, but
shoot for the first of May. So that means you
(29:15):
count backwards from the first of May. All right, So
we got April, there's four to five weeks there. Then
you get into March and three weeks there, so you're
looking at starting those right around the first of March, okay,
And that way they'll be just by the time you
get to the first of May, they should be just
right as far as transplanting size. And by the first
(29:36):
of May, you know, hopefully we've gotten into some good
warm weather and you're able to take them at that
point outside acclimate them, harden them off, which takes about
ten days or so, and then get them planted in
your containers or gardens or whatever you want to do,
or a garden or whatever it is. But yeah, if
you turn that seatpack over a lot of times, they'll
give you information on how long it takes from germination
to transplant size. And then you can just count back
(29:58):
from your frost free date. And like I said, we're
around the first of May, so you're probably you know,
you're you're a week ahead of us. So I would say,
you know, any anytime that last week of April probably
would be an okay time early, but an okay time
to look to start planting outside. Now for the hens
and chicks, are you trying to grow those indoors or outdoors?
Speaker 6 (30:18):
I'm kind of grow them outdoors.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Okay, So in a container with a hinge and chicks.
The good thing about it is they don't like to
be wet, so they like to be dry. So if
you're not watering as often as you know, very often,
that's that's actually a good thing. But I think we
wind up rotting them off in containers because we water
too much. And and again depends on the type of
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potting soil you use, how quickly it dries out. They
want to be in full sun, how quickly it dries
out from that, But they would once they get themselves
rooted into that pot they can take some awfully long
dry periods without without a good watering. And they'll kind
of tell you that because you can see them start
to shrivel up just a little bit you water, and
(31:01):
then they're right back at it again. So what usually
it's the watering issue that becomes a problem with seed them.
Uh And again, like I say, they don't they're not
a cactus, but they don't like to stay constantly wet,
So water them, soak them well, let them dry out,
stay dry a little bit, soak them well, let them
dry out. Keep them more on the dry side once
(31:23):
they get rooted in than you do on the wet side.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Oh okay, oh love, thank you so very much. Out
why they would turn into what they did was they
looked like paper. They stayed there. They were beautiful when
I got them, but then when you felt them, they
were they was like tape. They were hands but like paper.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So what what did the soil feel like?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Dry?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And and maybe maybe it's staying too dry and that
can happen too. I mean, like I say, they're not
a cactus, but they don't like to be extremely wet.
But they do need moisture on a regular basis, So
you know, you get to kind of find that happy
medium in there. But again, uh, and if they if
you try it again and they start to do that
take a picture. I'm an email it to me and
(32:12):
I'll try to help you out as much as I can,
uh by looking at the picture.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Okay, thank you, all right, thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Anna.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Good talking with you Anna in Louisville. There you go,
all right, quick break, we'll come back. Gary Suliman with
the whole home improvement here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 4 (34:35):
And mister Wilson. A question I have for you, what
did your day look like when it hit seventy degrees
this week?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Uh? Things were popping there you go. Emails just doubled
this week. Really, Oh my gosh, do you have your
overalls on? I mean and request for landscape designers to
come out to the home just doubled this week, so
you know, folks are chomping at the bit to get.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Going, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Did I do anything outside this week gardening wise, No,
I did not.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
You didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think I picked up a few sticks around the yard,
just walking around looking, picked up a little debris here
and there, and uh, there is a lot.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Of debris this year.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I think that was about Oh. I took pictures of
my flowering cabbage and kale.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
It's still flowering.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
No, it's still purple and red and white. Really, it
flowers in the spring if it makes it through the winter.
But I had pictures of that gary. As the snow
started to meld off of it, I get this whole
bed of them in different colors, and all of a sudden,
this maroon, lavender red foley started to stick up through
the snow and the snow just kept him perfect. And
(35:48):
now the snow's gone and they're all showing great colors.
So I could actually have them in flower this spring
if they can hang in there for a couple more months.
And they look really good right now. Way underused in
the landscape for fall for fall.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
You know, I used to plant that a lot, but
you're right, it is underused. I haven't planned it for
a while. I used to like it. I don't know
why I got away from it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I don't know why people got it and they don't
plant it like they used to. But I'll tell you
what that thing. If they hang in there and you
have a halfway decent winter, you've got color all and
mean it's bright color all winter long. By the way,
seed savers exchange. I had a little thing this week
about what's your tomato? What's your heirloom tomato name? You know,
it's like, you know, you put your some of the
(36:29):
things about you in there, and then it comes up
with a name. Should you have a tomato named after
you for today? For you, mister Sullivan, your heirloom tomato
name would be Grandpa Sullivan's giant tasty tomato. I like that,
not bad. Yeah, I like that. Mine was Grandpa Wilson's.
(36:50):
And of course the grandpa comes on your age, because
it could be little anti uncle, doctor or grandma.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Ah, we're being profiled.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, we're being profiled. And I was ravishing globe Master.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Oh my gosh, you are the you are the man now.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I couldn't. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
You know, Ron, I've known you for a long time. Yeah,
I don't think ravishing really comes to mind for either
one of us.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Does it for me? And you know when when Paul
was asking about am I going to go to any
trade shows and stuff now that I'm semi retired, I
first started to say, I'm not Gary Sullivan.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
That's semi retired?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Is the trade shows?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I'm trying to just tell you that before you think
you really are, but you're really not.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
But you're really not.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
You're really not.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I know I was running out of time already stuff
because it got started getting so busy.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
It sounds like a good plan, but no, you know,
it's like a It's like a well running drain in
the vanity and it.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Just takes you down the dream transitioning.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Yeah, little whirlpool.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh well, it's just the way it works. It happens. Yeah,
I know, Hey, I sent you a picture of that candy?
Yeah you did you remember that?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:02):
My mom? Those are those? Are my moms?
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Sitting on a shelf And I saw those the other
day and went I forgot about those.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
You were kind of a big candy guy, though, were you. No?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
But no, there you and I were with each had
our own candy bar with our pictures on the front
of it.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I actually yes, alright, then I had a bottle of
wine with my picture on it.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I did two from uh Doug? Yeah, three sisters.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Yeah, yeah, I had one and the guy gave it
to me and I was I thought, well, that's really
nice things. He goes, well, if you're going to drink
and drink it now? Oh I never drink it.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Like, was that the one from Doug or was that
for somebody else?
Speaker 4 (38:45):
That was from somebody else. I got a couple things
with my picture on it.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I thought, Doug said, you want to that was all
May twenty years ago.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, he may have. I had a couple of things,
A couple of candy bar wrappers, a couple of bottles
of wine. Don't I think there was a beer can
with just the name and no picture. I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Didn't you have like a tool?
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Oh, we had lots of tons of posh.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Didn't have a picture on it.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Channel locks. Yeah, it just had our logo on it. Yeah,
it was pretty cool. It was neat.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I had the gloves. Remember those gardening gloves? Oh yeah,
those were running on the back. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Man, I'll tell you what. Still got your gloves?
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Uh, there's a pair of floating somewhere.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yeah, I think I still have a pair. Two. We
had quite a few. One.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Wonder what that child that candy taste like. That's I
was trying to figure that out. That had to be
twenty years old plus.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah, I don't know. Uh, better have a good dentist
would be the only thing I'd have to say.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I don't know, mister Wilson. You got your list started, though.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I have getting stopped done. It's interesting some of the
questions I'm getting right now as far as what you
can do this time of the year. Of course, it
gets confusing with the pre emerged or besides and trying
to see and you know, all that kind of stuff,
But we try to walk people through it so.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
It's you know, one of the things I was going
to talk today about really is exactly what you experienced
happening this week, and that is get ready, man. I mean,
if you got to make you know your calls you say,
doubled in you know, lining up contractors, spring projects that
you might be doing that might be a little bit
(40:28):
over your head, or you need some help physically to
get those jobs done. Be it in the gardener at home,
start lining it up, because time goes fast in the springtime. Yeah,
once you get you know, mid February, I mean, all
of a sudden, it's May and you're like, oh, well,
let's call somebody about a deck. It's like, well, too late.
(40:50):
You can probably do it. But don't think you're going
to get it done on a Memorial Day.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Why have that ready for you for Labor Day weekend?
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Yep, that'll be about the game. That'll be about the
game plan. Even just lining up even maintenance issues like
a chimney. You're not really thinking about chimney and fireplaces.
We're still using them in a lot of places. But
line that cleaning up and get it done like in
June and kind of beat the rush for next fall.
I know we're not always that forward looking, but I'll
(41:18):
tell you if you are, it really makes a difference.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And you know the thing with gardening, landscaping, yardening, whatever
it may be in the springtime is that the weather
is so more much more variable, right than it is
in the fall. Sure, weather's to me is much more consistent.
You got three good months of gardening. Where's in the
springtime you got you know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Two days a week if it's not right, yeah, if.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
It's not raining, so you try to work things in
and then the next thing, you know, it's just springs
and it's summer.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, exactly, So yes, we're at that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Landscape plans, gardening plans, anything like that, home improvement plans,
you better get them in place right now, get your
name in the pok because if you don't.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
Yeah, I got a big long list, you know, decks,
concrete repairs, ceiling, roofing, insulation, painting, you know, these are
all the things we got. Controlling water. How many times
we talk about that during the course of a weekend,
you know. But if you need help with that, and
you're going to look for people to do that, you
better get on it now.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
When it comes to you know, you and I both
like we and forget especially for on the deck for cleaning,
and of course use it in the shower all the
time as well, But you know that's there's a point
where you stop using that in the fall. Because of
the weather, you can use it pretty much all the
way through though, but in the winter. But yeah, well
that's what I mean. Yeah, when you start getting people
(42:44):
fired up at this point, if you want to use
it now, go for.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Well, yeah you could use it now.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
It'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Yeah, it'll be fine. There you go. Certainly get rid
of those black streaks off the roof. That's for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
I won't be staying in the deck, but could be
cleaning it off.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Gary Sullivan in his website, Garyslivan online Dot, have a
great show, my friend.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
All right, thank you, sir, all.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Right, Thanks to all of our colors, Thanks our sponsors,
Thanks of course to Danny Gleeson, our producer, because as
you all well know, without Danny Gleeson, none of this
stuff would happen, none of it. So Danny, thank you
for all that you do. We really appreciate, appreciate that
every Saturday morning. Now, do yourself a favor. Get your
plans in place. We're you gonna plant that tree or
two or three, so I'm gonna do it for you.
You better get your name in the pot native plants,
(43:25):
native selections. What are you gonna do to pamper your worms,
soil amendments. You're gonna get the kids and dogs in
wall with gardening. I hope so. But by all means,
make this weekend the absolute best weekend of your life.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
See it.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
How is your garden growing?
Speaker 3 (43:43):
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