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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Are told pree number eight hundred A two three A
two five five. That's eight hundred eight and a two
five five. I'll get it out. Good morning. I am
Ron Wilson, your personally yard boy. We are talking about
yard moving our way through the month of April. Don't
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that one out. Lots of emails has passed a couple
of weeks. Continuing on as Ron rothis are certified arborist
and a hobby meteorologists have well we kind of forewarned
people going into the fall being dry, you know, make
sure you're watering, et cetera, et cetera. The ghosts of
drought pass. I'm still getting a lot of pictures from
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arborvity and Norway spruce and other evergreens that have pieces
of brown or an old stem of brown, or you
know that through them, and most of the cases, from
what I can see from the pictures and talking with
the folks, is the fact of just not getting enough
good moisture going in the winter season. And now you've
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got this browning that shows up here there. In some
point cases we'd lost a plant totally. If you just
have a few pieces in your ibraviete or spruce or
camas ciprus or boxwood or whatever it may be, go
through right now and clip it out. Just get rid
of it. It's not gonna do you any good. If
the branch is dead, get rid of it. Get the
brown away from the plants so you don't see it anymore.
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And now what that does for us. Now we start
to watch this as the plants start to put out
their new growth for this spring season. If the browning continues,
we got other problems. If the browning doesn't continue, you
may be good to go. And the new growth comes out,
covers over and we move forward. But if you're seeing
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that on any of the evergreens right now, prone that
out of there so you can tell if it continues on. Now.
I got a very interesting one that I kind of
laughed when I first saw the picture, because the folks
who are panic and said, you know, we've got this
row of upright harbor virus. And it looks like it's
probably it's one of the narrow upright varieties. I can't
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tell for sure if they're single stem or multi stem,
but they're all of about eight to ten feet tall,
about three to four feet in diameter, and they're individual
all right, like pillars. And from the ground up about
five feet it looks like somebody just sheared them in
and then they flare back out and go back to
their normal growth through the second half of the plant.
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And it's a little brown, some brown tips here and there.
And of course the question was what insect or disease
is called in this problem, and how do I correct it?
And it's exactly perfectly the same everything from one arbor
vite to the other, like somebody actually sheared them and
made a more narrow on the base to the exact
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same level up about five feet off the ground and
then normal from there up. And you know what it was,
it was deer damage. Deer will eat many of the
different variety of arbor vity. They seem to stay away
from the green giants and the spring groves. We don't
see them on that as much, but they will browse
on those during the winter. And this is where the
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deer have browsed up and down the basis of these
arbor vidy and sheared them back. Now will they die no,
As a matter of fact, that we can already start
to see where some of the buds are starting to
come out, and they'll obviously reneedle and come back out again.
They may take a little while for them to try to,
you know, even back out, but they perfectly sheared that
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those arbor vity, like somebody took hedge clippers and did that,
and it turned brown a little bit where they had
remember with deer grab and pull, grab and pull. So
there's a little bit of browning because of that. But
otherwise no insector disease, not even the drought. The rest
of the plants look absolutely gorgeous, but it's deer damage,
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which is kind of interesting, but again, nothing to worry about.
Go through and you kind of clip out some of
the brown it's successive brown is there and let them
flush back out and they're good to go. But in
your case, if it's by chance leftovers from the winter,
get in there, clean that brown stuff out of there,
and in that way you know that it's not other
issues if it doesn't continue on. If it does, then
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obviously you do have other issues, So keep that in
mind as well. Also had several calls this week about
in areas where folks had a lot of snow, used
a lot of salt on the street, or they had
an hoa or whatever using salt on their driveway or
sidewalk and then on the edges showing a distinct line
of grass browning out along the edge of the sidewalk.
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What do I do at this stage? Can I receive that?
What should I do? I see a few pieces of
grass coming up here and there, but otherwise it's just
a beige color about eight to ten inches out on
both sides. Well ninety nine percent sure that that is
salt damage, that it's killed those out. The benefit of
having all the rainfall we've had lately is that that
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helps to move that salt out of there. And on
through to kind of flush that out. So at this
stage in the game, and sometimes it's been recommended depending
on a type of solio, you have to sprinkle a
little gypsum in there can help to neutralize the salts
a little bit. But I think we've had enough rainfall
at this stage that you could go in there, rake
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all the debris out, get all that out of there,
fluff up that soil a little bit, rake it up,
rough it up, makes a nice seed bed, come back
and sow your seed, and then as it starts to
come up, a little starter fertilizer as well. This is
also a case where the lawn patch kits that come
with a insulation like you know, that would cover the
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seed and insulate it like like the when you blow
the the seed on hydro seed, that type of thing
that's this is a situation where that would work quite
nicely along the edge of the sidewalk because that'll help
to hold the moisture there, keep the seed in place,
a little bit of fertilizer in there, get it up
and growing. But the point being again, get all that
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debris out of there, good seed soil contact, get all
raked up, fluffed up, a little bit and do it
as soon as you can, because we want to get
that grass up growing and rooted in before we get
into the winter or summer season of the heat. So
yes should take care of it. And again this is
one time where excessive rainfall in early spring can't help
you out where you've got a little bit of a
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salt build up. If that happens a lot, you like
that strip between the sidewalk and the street. If you
can add organic matter to those areas and kind of
open it up a little bit, sometimes that will help.
Like if you could core, air raid or punch holes
in those areas and add a little bit of organic
matter helps to get that to move on through a
little bit quicker, doesn't hang up in that soil. So
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that's something you might want to consider as well. But yeah,
get on it right away. The salt should be moved
through and get the grass up and growing as soon
as we can so it's rooted in before we get
into the summer season. Also, winter annuals right now, geez
in a ton of requests about what to do with those.
For the most part, two things one is don't let
them flour and seed all right, So if you got
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to mow them, do that, but try to physically just
rake them out. They're usually an open bear areas landscape
or bear areas in the turf. Rake them out of there.
They're an annual. Just rake them out they're done. Then
come back in those areas again, rough that up, get
your seed down, use the lawn patch or whatever it
may be, and let's get those areas sticking back up.
Because we know where those winter annual weeds are growing
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in the lawn the lawn is thin, thick or the
lawn the fewer insects, disease and weat issues that we
have to deal with if they're in the landscape beds.
And I'm getting a lot of calls about that chickweed,
henbid Harry Bittercrest. Remember they germinated in the fall. So
to get those seeds under control, or to try to
keep them from having so many plants, put your pre
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emersion down in September early October and prevent those seeds
from growing in the fall. You won't have as much
of an issue if idiot all comes spring season. But
boy might get a ton of those right now and
have gotten several pictures of poison hemlock coming up in
open areas as well. Looks like like you planted ferns
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or carrots with a thick top, just very fronds, these
fronds right at the ground level, very lush, very cool looking.
But have identified it as poison hemlock, and obviously you
want to spray that, get rid of that as soon
as possible. We do not want to let that grow
in those particular areas. All right, we'll take a break
and we come back. Little home improvement from the man,
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Speaker 1 (12:56):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for the Little home approw from the Man, the Myth,
the Legend, the most listened to home improvement show host
in the entire solar system ladies and gentlemen. The one,
the only, and by the way, his website is carryslving
online dot com. The One the Only. Mister Gary Summon,
(13:17):
Good morning, mister Wilson. How I'm okay and you uh fantastic.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
You know my rhododendrons bloomed and then all the blooms
fell off this week.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Your rodos, yeah seriously, yeah, huh they were beautiful. Wow,
they didn't last very long.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Kind of got cold.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Did it take care of him?
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Yeah? Ron, they were out for about six seven days,
so they're starting, you know, the past full bloom. But
the frost wiped him out.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
So he sent me a picture from somebody, one of
our listeners out in their New Richmond and there was
twenty five out there this morning.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Real well, so oh.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, she had one of those electronic ones and show
you know inside, Yeah, twenty five.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Degrees shucky darn.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
How's it is?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
April?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well, that is it's true. How does that the up
and downs obviously affect our plants? How does that affect
our sighting and our painting? And well, it keeps hiding.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
It's twenty five that's true. That's pretty much it. You know,
it's just the projects, whether the weather conducive or not.
But it's really not going to do any damage to
our homes per se. There's a little uh, you know,
expansion contraction going on whenever temperature is volley back and forth,
as there is with the moisture. But hey, get that
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every year. That's just the way it works.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You know, we've had a lot of rainfall. I bet
you haven't gotten any calls on on leaky basement.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
She's hardly any. I think we solved that problem.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We can move on.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
What just get the rain to stop.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, I was happy I had a
good dry basement, but uh, I'm sure a lot of
people did not. Then you got to clean up and
then the river you know, I know it took four
or five days to get it back in its banks,
but you know, all the gunk that leaves behind, the
bacteriaan some of that. It's not nice.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, what a what a mess to clean all that
stuff up. We were talking about you earlier this morning.
You were well, they were talking about the process. I
wasn't watching on the news last night and they said,
you know, many communities, the fire departments come in with
their hoses first and just really blow the bulk of
that stuff out of the building. And then and then
you come back with the.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Power washer and the disinfected.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And the disinfected and start to do the fine tuning.
And so Danny and I were talking about boy, I
was I was watching the news to see if Gary
Sullivan was in the background.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I was promoting with a power washers ago.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, but that's that's how they fine tuned that. And
they said, you know how important that is because if
you leave any of that stuff and any of the
drywall or what you know, wherever. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I mean, so people always I don't know drywall really
is and you've been there. It's easily repairable. I mean,
when nobody likes to do it. You know, you see
a big water stain on the ceiling. The last thing
you want to do is cut into that ceiling to
find out where the leak is and see if the
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insulation if you can't get up behind it. I get that,
But she just cut it, get it out of there.
It's you know, it's got gymps and paper in it,
and it's at getting materire. If it's been wet, it's
gonna grow mold. And if it grew mold, and you
take the water out, it's going to stop growing mold,
but the mold spores are still there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well. Well, that was one of the points where the
power washing is that even if it's not drywall, just
even in the concrete and all of that, Now, that
can just you know, if you don't really get it
all cleaned out right, that stuff will continue to grow
in there.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Yeah. And you know there's different types of floods too.
I mean there's water and mud, but then there's also
sewage backups. Right, you gotta be really careful with that.
You don't know what's in that water.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well, and that's because I got a couple of emails
this week about the backyard gardens flooding. And you know
what do I do? Do I have the soil test,
which I always say, yeah, I get the soil tested
just to be sure. But I guess it depends on
whether it was just you know, standing water in your
yard or did it actually come from sewage that backed up,
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And then then you get different different story.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
There, totally different ball game for sure. I never would
have thought of tests. I thought mother nature and plants
would just take care of those impurities.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, but you know if it is sewage or whatever. Yeah,
you never know.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
But some of the stuff we put in for fertilizers,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Same way, you know, did that get in there? Could
could have? Yeah, it's always that's where our raised beds.
Sometimes if lesson water gets too high, can can't help
the benefit a little bit. If you're in an area
like that that has the Tennessee to flood a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
That's kind of the big problem in Florida, isn't it
run off from the farms and the fertile and well
red tide and that's all related.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Right, Yeah, Well a lot of this and even in
Ohio and you know when the lakes in that where
they you know, you get all of that algae that
bloom is growing, and that's all part of that runoff.
So yeah, one of the reasons why you see a
lot of lawn foods now with no phosphorus.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Is that what it is the phosphors says, yeah, took
the grass need that phosphorus wrung.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, but there's a natural level in there, which I'm
now I'm sure now Buggy Joe will probably jump all
over this, but they'll be teaching us if a starter fertilizer.
Still have it because it's an important part of starter
fertilizers and if you have your soil tested then you
need it. You can always get the starter fertilizer and
add that pull.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
What number is that on the lawn the middle phosphorus,
that's the middle one.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Nitrogen phosphorus and potash pot ash.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
My question to you was some pumps. I think ours
is getting pretty old, and I think it's time to
replace it. That's I've never done that before. Is that
something I can do myself?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
You could do that.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I mean, it doesn't look too hard.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
You can do that.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Are there better brands than others?
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Yeah? Sure? Did you do you have a backup in
there too? Run or do you have a backup pump
in there?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
All the surs rarely ever gets water. It's very unusual.
I mean it very rarely ever gets water in there.
I don't know what the deal is, but nevertheless it does,
but not very often. But it's been you know, it's
an old one, and I said, you know what, I
probably should take that out and replace that.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Well, I'll tell you. Zalor's been a sponsor to the
show for years. But going back to my hardware days.
Zalor is the best pump out there. Okay, it truly is,
and it is made right in Louisville, Kentucky and five generations.
And but they're claim to fame is the thing that
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fails on a some pump ninety percent of time is
actually the switch. And they have the highest rated switches
in the market. I mean, they test these things. I've
been down there at the manufacturing plan. It's it's phenomenal.
It really is on work there. But I've got a
Zala in my basement. It's funny, you said you just
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getting a little old. I was thinking, I bet you
that pump I've got in my basement's probably twelve years old,
and it runs. It doesn't run all the time, but
I date them. I date everything. The furnace.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well you did that in high school too.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, I got to go down there today
and check how old mine is. But gosh, it looks new.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So yeah, so as oars it looks new, I'm good
to go.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Well, no, the average life on the sub pump's really
about ten years.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, that mine needs to be replaced. Yeah, thank you, sir.
I have a great show, all right, Bud all right,
coming up next, Buggy Joe Boggs. Here in the garden
with Ron Wilson. How is your garden growing?
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Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well is that entry point. I'm not sure what to say,
ain't either.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
He's speechless.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Wait a minute, what I saw Joe want? I saw
Joe Want speechless one time in his life speechless, speechless,
wasn't sure what to do or.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'll tell you. Yeah, that's why I don't look at mirrors.
I mean, the last time I looked at him, I
was just speak I didn't know what to say.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You were such a pretty site, such a pretty sight.
Oh no, it's a sad day in my neighborhood. I'm
sure you heard this week Dennis the Menace passed away.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know I heard that. But that is amazing though.
And I was just reading a I'm just reading an
article in the Smithsonian about cracker Jacks, you know, Dennis
the Menace, Cracker Jacks, Wrigley Field. I'm not sure how
all this connects, but it takes us way back to when,
(24:35):
you know, just just when, when we had phosphorus and fertilizer.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I knew you were going to jump all over that.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
How did you like that? Way?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Did you know how old Jay North was? No, how
old do you think he was? I mean, you and
I both watched Dennis the Menace.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh absolutely, Well, let's see, I would say I would
say eighty.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Five seventy three.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, yep, I didn't know that. I thought he well,
I thought he was. I guess I I well that
I'm not sure what to say. I'm speechless, I tell you,
get me speechless.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
When I saw that. I was kind of but he
was pretty young when he started that his acting career.
He was pretty young kid, So there you go.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Anyway, Well, well it is true because he probably wasn't
when I now that you think about it, he probably
wasn't too far off of ira Ag when we watched it, right, yeah,
he's okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
But you know what I always think about, hello, mister,
when I think of Dennis the Menace, I always think
of the sling shot in his back pocket.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
What kid has a slingshot in his back pocket? Anymore?
I did?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
What doesn't?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What kid would have a slingshot in their pocket in
today's world?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Nobody who would know what a slingshot is exactly? That's
really I don't know. That's that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I don't know about you. But I went from the
homemade slingshot to the wrist rocket.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Oh my goodness, yes, yes, with those I'm there you go,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I could shoot a wallnut with that wrist rocket three
hundred yards, I swear.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
With a surgical tubing.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That was Oh yeah, I mean the homemade you know,
our homemade job just kind of had like rubber bands,
you know, like massive rubber band anything.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Well, if you could get a real anything two from
the bicycle tube.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah you were, but you just
said the right thing. I mean the first time I
ever tried it, I couldnt even get it to pull back,
and it was just like you know, yeah, yeah, tell you.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So anyway, let's get back to that foster.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yes, yes, so what brought this on? I missed the
first part because I was upstairs up for Gary will
be proud. I'm prepping the room for painting today.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
It's all about prep you know. When mister Solomon says.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
That's exactly, I just you know, his voice was in
my head. It's it's it's really terrible. I might have
to see somebody about that, but voice was in the head,
and and yes, prepping it. All the little imperfections you
know that will come through with no matter how expensive
the paint.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think I heard him say that one time.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
It doesn't matter what the Yeah, it's all about the
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It's all about I think he has a wall plaque there, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
He I mean look, yeah he does, right, he said, yes,
yes he does. It's just out of camera range. He's
got one to talk about the three g's. And then yeah,
the prep all about prep, and of course over top
of all, that's all about easy.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
There it is, there it is, and you know, yes,
and pictures of furnaces when he dated them in high school.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yes, ye did a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
The flatter the paint, the less the imperfections will show.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's what Gary says. It says, the flatter the paint,
the fewer imperfections that you'll see.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Here you go, run you got it, there you go,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Of course I've learn, mister Salivans say, the flat paints today,
you're able to watch them because they have much better
flat paints today. The quality is better.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well yeah, well, and that's been a problem because Drew,
I have coffee on it. No I well, I wait
a minute, spilling coffee on that. I don't throw coffee
at the wall.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, I mean when you spin it, you know, like, oh.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yes, that's right, when you find when you find a
moth in your coffee. Yes, let's go off full circle.
You have to reintroduce that story. But but no, I'll
tell you that the range of paints, the availability of
paints is just not my head has been spinning. It's
you know, in terms of selecting a paint, because yes,
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you put a lot of effort into getting things started.
You don't want to do it next week again, right,
so it takes it takes time. It's just like you
don't want to continually need to fertilize your lawn if
you can help it, because it's you know, it takes
time to do that. Okay, So, so so what brought
(29:57):
on the phosphorus discussion? Admit that I was.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I don't I forget the other fact I said you
if you noticed, most fertilizers long food today is a
zero phosphorus except for the starter fertilizers in case you
need it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
But yeah, yeah, so well that is the.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Fact that we don't you know, in most cases there
is phosphorus in the soil, but have it tested to
find out what if you need it, you can always
get it and add it.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You just you just use the golden words right there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
There's also some municipalities that are banning, you know, fertilizer
with phosphorus in it, or banning the application of phosphorus
the turf grass unless you have a soil test showing
you have a deficit now, you know, and in modern
you know, when we when we construct our homes these days,
(30:51):
it is unfortunate though that a lot of times the
soil upon the home sets, you know, is not the
soil that was at the surface, and that means that
you might be starting off for a lot of years,
you know, behind the eight ball, trying to get a
nice lawn. So anyone with a new home out there,
(31:12):
if there was any excavation done and let's face it,
rod and it's always going to happen, right or if
that has occurred, getting your soil tested is your best investment.
And what's interesting about this, and it's maybe fitting because
it is spring and we're getting started. We have a
soil fact sheet and OSUE soil test fact sheet. We
(31:35):
actually have a couple. We have one that's a little
more geared towards agricultural, but you can there's still a
lot of information there there that applies to you know,
home gardens at lawns. And then I'm updating the fact
sheet that's that's specific for lawns and gardens and so forth,
and it's just kind of been interesting in looking one
(31:58):
thing that we have of labs that will do the
soil testing, and it's very interesting to be to look
at what has changed since the first time this fact
sheet was published in twenty seventeen exactly. It isn't all
that long ago.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I have it right here in front of it. I
keep it all the time where we posted January twelve, seventeen.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, and what what what I think was always helpful.
The thing that I was most proud to include in
that was this table in the back that has the
different labs that offer soil tests and then it describes,
you know, what they offer. Now, some of the you know,
it started going out of date with some of the
contact information being okay not you know, we needed to
(32:42):
update some of the labs have you know, changed their
contact information. But the biggest changes that I saw were
what the labs were offering. You know, what they would
do is a basic soil test. What are some of
the other things that they offered when we published that
Originally it was interesting there was there were quite a
(33:03):
few labs that did tissue analysis, and now they still do,
but it's a little bit more specific. Then, of course
the tissue analysis has done. If you suspect that you
have a deficit but you're not quite sure what it is,
and let's say your soil test comes back with you know,
(33:24):
three different nutrients that are that are deficient, which one
is causing perhaps stunting in a particular plant, and that's
where you use a tissue analysis. But I'm getting off
a subject a bit. The first thing to do, though,
like I said, is just get your soil tested, and
most people do find that there's not going to be
(33:45):
a phosphorus deficit. It's truly amazing if you don't have,
you know, construction damage soil, if your soil wasn't in
your basement originally. Most, as I said, most of our
soils have adequate phosphorus to support turf grass growth. And
then if you recycle the blades. I'm not talking about
(34:08):
the blades on the mower. I'm talking about if you're
using a lawnmower that returns the blades and you're not bagging,
then you are recycling the nutrients.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Put him right back down, which you should be doing.
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Welcome back time for part two with the Buggy Drip
bog Port Here in the garden with Ron Wilson and
talking about lawn feeding and throwing those grass clippings back
into the turf. Add organic matter, put it back in there,
put the fertilizer back in. I would guess that if
you do that all year long, Joe, which most folks
should be doing, wouldn't it be almost equal to putting
(37:06):
an application of fertilizer down?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You know that that is true? Actually, it's uh, you know,
the the nutrient that is the most desensual for a
nice looking lawn is of course nitrogen, which goes very
quickly through the system. And that's that's why we typically
don't see nitrogen in a soil test result. And people
often ask that it's just that it moves so quickly
(37:31):
through the soil. It's taken up so quickly by the plant,
and a fast growing plant like turf grass. I mean,
let's face it, when you get when you think about it,
there really isn't much else in a landscape that grows
like turf grass, right, It's it's always growing, you know,
our trees put on growth in the spring. They may
(37:51):
put on a second flush, you know. Some of the
shrubs that we do that we work with, you know,
we'll put on you know, second and third flow growth,
but just a continuous growth. And there's there's a little
side note here. You know, the growing point of turf
grass is a is called a crown, just like a
(38:12):
king or king's crown, and it's sitting right on the
surface of the soil, and from that growing point arise
the blades and the roots. Well, when you think about it,
you know that is also very very different than you know,
trees and shrubs. And and if you step back just
a bit and think, well, now, why would a plant
(38:33):
do that? I mean, what would be something that that
may be eating the plant constantly so that it's a
good idea to grow from basically the soil surface up
all the time. What would we have and it's you know,
it's something that that we might you know, get milk
(38:54):
from andre is so so it's it's speculated that a
lot of our oh did Gary come back in now?
Come on? So it's speculated I can tell, well, it's
(39:20):
speculated that that our grass is like that they evolved,
you know, because they were you know, in this way
as partially because you know, they're being grazed grazers and
of course, you know, mammoths were giant grazers. We tend
to overlook some of these things. But but I mean,
(39:40):
that's not the only reason. I'm sure some of the
plant taxonomists, if they're listening out there, are just groaning
because you know, they're wait a second, he's saying monocots,
you know, evolved because of great No, I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying that in the case of turf grass,
it really does demonstrate, you know, how a plant is
not hurt by something that's that feeds on it all
(40:02):
the time. So that's why it grows from the bottom up.
But if we, you know again, step back and observe
and consider. Okay, two things about this. Number One is,
like you said, if we use uh, you know, mowers
that return, if you know, we have a lot of
different names for them, you know, recycling mowers. What's another
(40:24):
name for these bowers this case, malting? I love it multing.
That's exactly right. And in the fall, it really they
really become mulching mowers. You not talked about this many times.
You know, the you know raking up and getting rid
of leaves, raking up or you know bagging getting rid
(40:45):
of of turf grass clippings. Well, you're just sending your
your nutrients down the road, you know, to a landfill,
when in fact, if you use a mulching mower, recycling
mulching mowers, so everything's being returned, then you cut back
some of the research in at Ohio State, for example,
(41:05):
you cut back basically one application of nitrogen per season.
It's that impactful. And you know, and nutrients like phosphorus
that don't move that quickly, and that's the key here.
So phosphorus and potassium and well, of course we know
magnesium and calcium. We usually have plenty of that in
(41:27):
the soil, so you don't need to be too worried about that.
But phosphorus and potassium, they migrate very slowly through the
soil unlike nitrogen. And when you think about it, then
that's just perfect for recycling. So the kind of multi
mowers that we're talking about ron are those that have
(41:47):
a specific blade for it. You can go out and
buy a multing blade and you can put it on
a standard mower, but the results are not as good
as with a multimower with a deck that's been designed
to be a mulching mower. It's helpful, don't get me wrong.
If you if you have a mower that is not
(42:09):
designed to be a multimower and you have in it
bags the clippings, then you can put a maulting blade
on and you can achieve you know, maybe fifty percent
of what you would like to see. Unfortunately, that's also though,
where mulching mowers can have you gotten kind of a
bad reputation for clumping. It's very often that a person
(42:32):
is not using a designed machine right because these mulching mowers.
I have one, and I don't get clumping anymore than
anybody else because there's the other key here MO often
and MO high.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Here I.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
The setting of the motor. I'm sorry. Yes, yes, our
seventies time period are coming back to us, right, some
of you know Summer saying what did he mean by that?
My point meaning though, is yes, I got it, I
got it. You want to bring that mower, you want
to bring that mower deck up, let's face it, to
(43:14):
the highest setting.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Right For most moores, it's about right for.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Most mowers, it's the highest setting and then mo often
so you're not removing a lot of the plant.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
And by the way, you talk about professional grazers, yeah,
Gary Sullivan, I you give us the right or derv table.
We are truly professional grazers.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Oh there you go. Yeah, yeah, buddy, all four of it.
You show up.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Just do you got it? Bucket, Joe, Bog's always a pleasure.
We'll talk to you next week.
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You take care of by bye bye.
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that one out. Lots of emails has passed a couple
of weeks. Continuing on as Ron rothis are certified arborist
and a hobby meteorologists have well we kind of forewarned
people going into the fall being dry, you know, make
sure you're watering, et cetera, et cetera. The ghosts of
drought pass. I'm still getting a lot of pictures from
(01:40):
arborvity and Norway spruce and other evergreens that have pieces
of brown or an old stem of brown, or you
know that through them, and most of the cases, from
what I can see from the pictures and talking with
the folks, is the fact of just not getting enough
good moisture going in the winter season. And now you've
(02:01):
got this browning that shows up here there. In some
point cases we'd lost a plant totally. If you just
have a few pieces in your ibraviete or spruce or
camas ciprus or boxwood or whatever it may be, go
through right now and clip it out. Just get rid
of it. It's not gonna do you any good. If
the branch is dead, get rid of it. Get the
brown away from the plants so you don't see it anymore.
(02:23):
And now what that does for us. Now we start
to watch this as the plants start to put out
their new growth for this spring season. If the browning continues,
we got other problems. If the browning doesn't continue, you
may be good to go. And the new growth comes out,
covers over and we move forward. But if you're seeing
(02:44):
that on any of the evergreens right now, prone that
out of there so you can tell if it continues on. Now.
I got a very interesting one that I kind of
laughed when I first saw the picture, because the folks
who are panic and said, you know, we've got this
row of upright harbor virus. And it looks like it's
probably it's one of the narrow upright varieties. I can't
(03:04):
tell for sure if they're single stem or multi stem,
but they're all of about eight to ten feet tall,
about three to four feet in diameter, and they're individual
all right, like pillars. And from the ground up about
five feet it looks like somebody just sheared them in
and then they flare back out and go back to
their normal growth through the second half of the plant.
(03:26):
And it's a little brown, some brown tips here and there.
And of course the question was what insect or disease
is called in this problem, and how do I correct it?
And it's exactly perfectly the same everything from one arbor
vite to the other, like somebody actually sheared them and
made a more narrow on the base to the exact
(03:47):
same level up about five feet off the ground and
then normal from there up. And you know what it was,
it was deer damage. Deer will eat many of the
different variety of arbor vity. They seem to stay away
from the green giants and the spring groves. We don't
see them on that as much, but they will browse
on those during the winter. And this is where the
(04:10):
deer have browsed up and down the basis of these
arbor vidy and sheared them back. Now will they die no,
As a matter of fact, that we can already start
to see where some of the buds are starting to
come out, and they'll obviously reneedle and come back out again.
They may take a little while for them to try to,
you know, even back out, but they perfectly sheared that
(04:32):
those arbor vity, like somebody took hedge clippers and did that,
and it turned brown a little bit where they had
remember with deer grab and pull, grab and pull. So
there's a little bit of browning because of that. But
otherwise no insector disease, not even the drought. The rest
of the plants look absolutely gorgeous, but it's deer damage,
(04:52):
which is kind of interesting, but again, nothing to worry about.
Go through and you kind of clip out some of
the brown it's successive brown is there and let them
flush back out and they're good to go. But in
your case, if it's by chance leftovers from the winter,
get in there, clean that brown stuff out of there,
and in that way you know that it's not other
issues if it doesn't continue on. If it does, then
(05:12):
obviously you do have other issues, So keep that in
mind as well. Also had several calls this week about
in areas where folks had a lot of snow, used
a lot of salt on the street, or they had
an hoa or whatever using salt on their driveway or
sidewalk and then on the edges showing a distinct line
of grass browning out along the edge of the sidewalk.
(05:35):
What do I do at this stage? Can I receive that?
What should I do? I see a few pieces of
grass coming up here and there, but otherwise it's just
a beige color about eight to ten inches out on
both sides. Well ninety nine percent sure that that is
salt damage, that it's killed those out. The benefit of
having all the rainfall we've had lately is that that
(05:56):
helps to move that salt out of there. And on
through to kind of flush that out. So at this
stage in the game, and sometimes it's been recommended depending
on a type of solio, you have to sprinkle a
little gypsum in there can help to neutralize the salts
a little bit. But I think we've had enough rainfall
at this stage that you could go in there, rake
(06:16):
all the debris out, get all that out of there,
fluff up that soil a little bit, rake it up,
rough it up, makes a nice seed bed, come back
and sow your seed, and then as it starts to
come up, a little starter fertilizer as well. This is
also a case where the lawn patch kits that come
with a insulation like you know, that would cover the
(06:39):
seed and insulate it like like the when you blow
the the seed on hydro seed, that type of thing
that's this is a situation where that would work quite
nicely along the edge of the sidewalk because that'll help
to hold the moisture there, keep the seed in place,
a little bit of fertilizer in there, get it up
and growing. But the point being again, get all that
(07:00):
debris out of there, good seed soil contact, get all
raked up, fluffed up, a little bit and do it
as soon as you can, because we want to get
that grass up growing and rooted in before we get
into the winter or summer season of the heat. So
yes should take care of it. And again this is
one time where excessive rainfall in early spring can't help
you out where you've got a little bit of a
(07:21):
salt build up. If that happens a lot, you like
that strip between the sidewalk and the street. If you
can add organic matter to those areas and kind of
open it up a little bit, sometimes that will help.
Like if you could core, air raid or punch holes
in those areas and add a little bit of organic
matter helps to get that to move on through a
little bit quicker, doesn't hang up in that soil. So
(07:42):
that's something you might want to consider as well. But yeah,
get on it right away. The salt should be moved
through and get the grass up and growing as soon
as we can so it's rooted in before we get
into the summer season. Also, winter annuals right now, geez
in a ton of requests about what to do with those.
For the most part, two things one is don't let
them flour and seed all right, So if you got
(08:04):
to mow them, do that, but try to physically just
rake them out. They're usually an open bear areas landscape
or bear areas in the turf. Rake them out of there.
They're an annual. Just rake them out they're done. Then
come back in those areas again, rough that up, get
your seed down, use the lawn patch or whatever it
may be, and let's get those areas sticking back up.
Because we know where those winter annual weeds are growing
(08:26):
in the lawn the lawn is thin, thick or the
lawn the fewer insects, disease and weat issues that we
have to deal with if they're in the landscape beds.
And I'm getting a lot of calls about that chickweed,
henbid Harry Bittercrest. Remember they germinated in the fall. So
to get those seeds under control, or to try to
keep them from having so many plants, put your pre
(08:49):
emersion down in September early October and prevent those seeds
from growing in the fall. You won't have as much
of an issue if idiot all comes spring season. But
boy might get a ton of those right now and
have gotten several pictures of poison hemlock coming up in
open areas as well. Looks like like you planted ferns
(09:10):
or carrots with a thick top, just very fronds, these
fronds right at the ground level, very lush, very cool looking.
But have identified it as poison hemlock, and obviously you
want to spray that, get rid of that as soon
as possible. We do not want to let that grow
in those particular areas. All right, we'll take a break
and we come back. Little home improvement from the man,
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Good morning, mister Wilson. How I'm okay and you uh fantastic.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
You know my rhododendrons bloomed and then all the blooms
fell off this week.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Your rodos, yeah seriously, yeah, huh they were beautiful. Wow,
they didn't last very long.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Kind of got cold.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Did it take care of him?
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Yeah? Ron, they were out for about six seven days,
so they're starting, you know, the past full bloom. But
the frost wiped him out.
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So he sent me a picture from somebody, one of
our listeners out in their New Richmond and there was
twenty five out there this morning.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Real well, so oh.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, she had one of those electronic ones and show
you know inside, Yeah, twenty five.
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Degrees shucky darn.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
How's it is?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
April?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well, that is it's true. How does that the up
and downs obviously affect our plants? How does that affect
our sighting and our painting? And well, it keeps hiding.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
It's twenty five that's true. That's pretty much it. You know,
it's just the projects, whether the weather conducive or not.
But it's really not going to do any damage to
our homes per se. There's a little uh, you know,
expansion contraction going on whenever temperature is volley back and forth,
as there is with the moisture. But hey, get that
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every year. That's just the way it works.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You know, we've had a lot of rainfall. I bet
you haven't gotten any calls on on leaky basement.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
She's hardly any. I think we solved that problem.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We can move on.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
What just get the rain to stop.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, I was happy I had a
good dry basement, but uh, I'm sure a lot of
people did not. Then you got to clean up and
then the river you know, I know it took four
or five days to get it back in its banks,
but you know, all the gunk that leaves behind, the
bacteriaan some of that. It's not nice.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, what a what a mess to clean all that
stuff up. We were talking about you earlier this morning.
You were well, they were talking about the process. I
wasn't watching on the news last night and they said,
you know, many communities, the fire departments come in with
their hoses first and just really blow the bulk of
that stuff out of the building. And then and then
you come back with the.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Power washer and the disinfected.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And the disinfected and start to do the fine tuning.
And so Danny and I were talking about boy, I
was I was watching the news to see if Gary
Sullivan was in the background.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I was promoting with a power washers ago.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, but that's that's how they fine tuned that. And
they said, you know how important that is because if
you leave any of that stuff and any of the
drywall or what you know, wherever. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I mean, so people always I don't know drywall really
is and you've been there. It's easily repairable. I mean,
when nobody likes to do it. You know, you see
a big water stain on the ceiling. The last thing
you want to do is cut into that ceiling to
find out where the leak is and see if the
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insulation if you can't get up behind it. I get that,
But she just cut it, get it out of there.
It's you know, it's got gymps and paper in it,
and it's at getting materire. If it's been wet, it's
gonna grow mold. And if it grew mold, and you
take the water out, it's going to stop growing mold,
but the mold spores are still there.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Well. Well, that was one of the points where the
power washing is that even if it's not drywall, just
even in the concrete and all of that, Now, that
can just you know, if you don't really get it
all cleaned out right, that stuff will continue to grow
in there.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Yeah. And you know there's different types of floods too.
I mean there's water and mud, but then there's also
sewage backups. Right, you gotta be really careful with that.
You don't know what's in that water.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Well, and that's because I got a couple of emails
this week about the backyard gardens flooding. And you know
what do I do? Do I have the soil test,
which I always say, yeah, I get the soil tested
just to be sure. But I guess it depends on
whether it was just you know, standing water in your
yard or did it actually come from sewage that backed up,
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And then then you get different different story.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
There, totally different ball game for sure. I never would
have thought of tests. I thought mother nature and plants
would just take care of those impurities.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, but you know if it is sewage or whatever. Yeah,
you never know.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
But some of the stuff we put in for fertilizers,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Same way, you know, did that get in there? Could
could have? Yeah, it's always that's where our raised beds.
Sometimes if lesson water gets too high, can can't help
the benefit a little bit. If you're in an area
like that that has the Tennessee to flood a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
That's kind of the big problem in Florida, isn't it
run off from the farms and the fertile and well
red tide and that's all related.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Right, Yeah, Well a lot of this and even in
Ohio and you know when the lakes in that where
they you know, you get all of that algae that
bloom is growing, and that's all part of that runoff.
So yeah, one of the reasons why you see a
lot of lawn foods now with no phosphorus.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Is that what it is the phosphors says, yeah, took
the grass need that phosphorus wrung.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah, but there's a natural level in there, which I'm
now I'm sure now Buggy Joe will probably jump all
over this, but they'll be teaching us if a starter fertilizer.
Still have it because it's an important part of starter
fertilizers and if you have your soil tested then you
need it. You can always get the starter fertilizer and
add that pull.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
What number is that on the lawn the middle phosphorus,
that's the middle one.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Nitrogen phosphorus and potash pot ash.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
My question to you was some pumps. I think ours
is getting pretty old, and I think it's time to
replace it. That's I've never done that before. Is that
something I can do myself?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
You could do that.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
I mean, it doesn't look too hard.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
You can do that.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Are there better brands than others?
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Yeah? Sure? Did you do you have a backup in
there too? Run or do you have a backup pump
in there?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
All the surs rarely ever gets water. It's very unusual.
I mean it very rarely ever gets water in there.
I don't know what the deal is, but nevertheless it does,
but not very often. But it's been you know, it's
an old one, and I said, you know what, I
probably should take that out and replace that.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Well, I'll tell you. Zalor's been a sponsor to the
show for years. But going back to my hardware days.
Zalor is the best pump out there. Okay, it truly is,
and it is made right in Louisville, Kentucky and five generations.
And but they're claim to fame is the thing that
(19:44):
fails on a some pump ninety percent of time is
actually the switch. And they have the highest rated switches
in the market. I mean, they test these things. I've
been down there at the manufacturing plan. It's it's phenomenal.
It really is on work there. But I've got a
Zala in my basement. It's funny, you said you just
(20:05):
getting a little old. I was thinking, I bet you
that pump I've got in my basement's probably twelve years old,
and it runs. It doesn't run all the time, but
I date them. I date everything. The furnace.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well you did that in high school too.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, I got to go down there today
and check how old mine is. But gosh, it looks new.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So yeah, so as oars it looks new, I'm good
to go.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
Well, no, the average life on the sub pump's really
about ten years.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, that mine needs to be replaced. Yeah, thank you, sir.
I have a great show, all right, Bud all right,
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Speaker 2 (23:37):
Well is that entry point. I'm not sure what to say,
ain't either.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
He's speechless.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Wait a minute, what I saw Joe want? I saw
Joe Want speechless one time in his life speechless, speechless,
wasn't sure what to do or.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I'll tell you. Yeah, that's why I don't look at mirrors.
I mean, the last time I looked at him, I
was just speak I didn't know what to say.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
You were such a pretty site, such a pretty sight.
Oh no, it's a sad day in my neighborhood. I'm
sure you heard this week Dennis the Menace passed away.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You know I heard that. But that is amazing though.
And I was just reading a I'm just reading an
article in the Smithsonian about cracker Jacks, you know, Dennis
the Menace, Cracker Jacks, Wrigley Field. I'm not sure how
all this connects, but it takes us way back to when,
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you know, just just when, when we had phosphorus and fertilizer.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I knew you were going to jump all over that.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
How did you like that? Way?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Did you know how old Jay North was? No, how
old do you think he was? I mean, you and
I both watched Dennis the Menace.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Oh absolutely, Well, let's see, I would say I would
say eighty.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Five seventy three.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
No, yep, I didn't know that. I thought he well,
I thought he was. I guess I I well that
I'm not sure what to say. I'm speechless, I tell you,
get me speechless.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
When I saw that. I was kind of but he
was pretty young when he started that his acting career.
He was pretty young kid, So there you go.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Anyway, Well, well it is true because he probably wasn't
when I now that you think about it, he probably
wasn't too far off of ira Ag when we watched it, right, yeah,
he's okay, there you go.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
But you know what I always think about, hello, mister,
when I think of Dennis the Menace, I always think
of the sling shot in his back pocket.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
What kid has a slingshot in his back pocket? Anymore?
I did?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
What doesn't?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What kid would have a slingshot in their pocket in
today's world?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Nobody who would know what a slingshot is exactly? That's
really I don't know. That's that's kind of.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I don't know about you. But I went from the
homemade slingshot to the wrist rocket.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Oh my goodness, yes, yes, with those I'm there you go,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I could shoot a wallnut with that wrist rocket three
hundred yards, I swear.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
With a surgical tubing.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
That was Oh yeah, I mean the homemade you know,
our homemade job just kind of had like rubber bands,
you know, like massive rubber band anything.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Well, if you could get a real anything two from
the bicycle tube.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah you were, but you just
said the right thing. I mean the first time I
ever tried it, I couldnt even get it to pull back,
and it was just like you know, yeah, yeah, tell you.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So anyway, let's get back to that foster.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yes, yes, so what brought this on? I missed the
first part because I was upstairs up for Gary will
be proud. I'm prepping the room for painting today.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
It's all about prep you know. When mister Solomon says.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
That's exactly, I just you know, his voice was in
my head. It's it's it's really terrible. I might have
to see somebody about that, but voice was in the head,
and and yes, prepping it. All the little imperfections you
know that will come through with no matter how expensive
the paint.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think I heard him say that one time.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
It doesn't matter what the Yeah, it's all about the
I think.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It's all about I think he has a wall plaque there, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
He I mean look, yeah he does, right, he said, yes,
yes he does. It's just out of camera range. He's
got one to talk about the three g's. And then yeah,
the prep all about prep, and of course over top
of all, that's all about easy.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
There it is, there it is, and you know, yes,
and pictures of furnaces when he dated them in high school.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yes, ye did a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
The flatter the paint, the less the imperfections will show.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's what Gary says. It says, the flatter the paint,
the fewer imperfections that you'll see.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Here you go, run you got it, there you go,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Of course I've learn, mister Salivans say, the flat paints today,
you're able to watch them because they have much better
flat paints today. The quality is better.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well yeah, well, and that's been a problem because Drew,
I have coffee on it. No I well, I wait
a minute, spilling coffee on that. I don't throw coffee
at the wall.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, I mean when you spin it, you know, like, oh.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yes, that's right, when you find when you find a
moth in your coffee. Yes, let's go off full circle.
You have to reintroduce that story. But but no, I'll
tell you that the range of paints, the availability of
paints is just not my head has been spinning. It's
you know, in terms of selecting a paint, because yes,
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you put a lot of effort into getting things started.
You don't want to do it next week again, right,
so it takes it takes time. It's just like you
don't want to continually need to fertilize your lawn if
you can help it, because it's you know, it takes
time to do that. Okay, So, so so what brought
(29:57):
on the phosphorus discussion? Admit that I was.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I don't I forget the other fact I said you
if you noticed, most fertilizers long food today is a
zero phosphorus except for the starter fertilizers in case you
need it.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
But yeah, yeah, so well that is the.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Fact that we don't you know, in most cases there
is phosphorus in the soil, but have it tested to
find out what if you need it, you can always
get it and add it.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
You just you just use the golden words right there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
There's also some municipalities that are banning, you know, fertilizer
with phosphorus in it, or banning the application of phosphorus
the turf grass unless you have a soil test showing
you have a deficit now, you know, and in modern
you know, when we when we construct our homes these days,
(30:51):
it is unfortunate though that a lot of times the
soil upon the home sets, you know, is not the
soil that was at the surface, and that means that
you might be starting off for a lot of years,
you know, behind the eight ball, trying to get a
nice lawn. So anyone with a new home out there,
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if there was any excavation done and let's face it,
rod and it's always going to happen, right or if
that has occurred, getting your soil tested is your best investment.
And what's interesting about this, and it's maybe fitting because
it is spring and we're getting started. We have a
soil fact sheet and OSUE soil test fact sheet. We
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actually have a couple. We have one that's a little
more geared towards agricultural, but you can there's still a
lot of information there there that applies to you know,
home gardens at lawns. And then I'm updating the fact
sheet that's that's specific for lawns and gardens and so forth,
and it's just kind of been interesting in looking one
(31:58):
thing that we have of labs that will do the
soil testing, and it's very interesting to be to look
at what has changed since the first time this fact
sheet was published in twenty seventeen exactly. It isn't all
that long ago.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I have it right here in front of it. I
keep it all the time where we posted January twelve, seventeen.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, and what what what I think was always helpful.
The thing that I was most proud to include in
that was this table in the back that has the
different labs that offer soil tests and then it describes,
you know, what they offer. Now, some of the you know,
it started going out of date with some of the
contact information being okay not you know, we needed to
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update some of the labs have you know, changed their
contact information. But the biggest changes that I saw were
what the labs were offering. You know, what they would
do is a basic soil test. What are some of
the other things that they offered when we published that
Originally it was interesting there was there were quite a
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few labs that did tissue analysis, and now they still do,
but it's a little bit more specific. Then, of course
the tissue analysis has done. If you suspect that you
have a deficit but you're not quite sure what it is,
and let's say your soil test comes back with you know,
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three different nutrients that are that are deficient, which one
is causing perhaps stunting in a particular plant, and that's
where you use a tissue analysis. But I'm getting off
a subject a bit. The first thing to do, though,
like I said, is just get your soil tested, and
most people do find that there's not going to be
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a phosphorus deficit. It's truly amazing if you don't have,
you know, construction damage soil, if your soil wasn't in
your basement originally. Most, as I said, most of our
soils have adequate phosphorus to support turf grass growth. And
then if you recycle the blades. I'm not talking about
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the blades on the mower. I'm talking about if you're
using a lawnmower that returns the blades and you're not bagging,
then you are recycling the nutrients.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Put him right back down, which you should be doing.
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Speaker 1 (36:44):
Welcome back time for part two with the Buggy Drip
bog Port Here in the garden with Ron Wilson and
talking about lawn feeding and throwing those grass clippings back
into the turf. Add organic matter, put it back in there,
put the fertilizer back in. I would guess that if
you do that all year long, Joe, which most folks
should be doing, wouldn't it be almost equal to putting
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an application of fertilizer down?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You know that that is true? Actually, it's uh, you know,
the the nutrient that is the most desensual for a
nice looking lawn is of course nitrogen, which goes very
quickly through the system. And that's that's why we typically
don't see nitrogen in a soil test result. And people
often ask that it's just that it moves so quickly
(37:31):
through the soil. It's taken up so quickly by the plant,
and a fast growing plant like turf grass. I mean,
let's face it, when you get when you think about it,
there really isn't much else in a landscape that grows
like turf grass, right, It's it's always growing, you know,
our trees put on growth in the spring. They may
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put on a second flush, you know. Some of the
shrubs that we do that we work with, you know,
we'll put on you know, second and third flow growth,
but just a continuous growth. And there's there's a little
side note here. You know, the growing point of turf
grass is a is called a crown, just like a
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king or king's crown, and it's sitting right on the
surface of the soil, and from that growing point arise
the blades and the roots. Well, when you think about it,
you know that is also very very different than you know,
trees and shrubs. And and if you step back just
a bit and think, well, now, why would a plant
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do that? I mean, what would be something that that
may be eating the plant constantly so that it's a
good idea to grow from basically the soil surface up
all the time. What would we have and it's you know,
it's something that that we might you know, get milk
(38:54):
from andre is so so it's it's speculated that a
lot of our oh did Gary come back in now?
Come on? So it's speculated I can tell, well, it's
(39:20):
speculated that that our grass is like that they evolved,
you know, because they were you know, in this way
as partially because you know, they're being grazed grazers and
of course, you know, mammoths were giant grazers. We tend
to overlook some of these things. But but I mean,
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that's not the only reason. I'm sure some of the
plant taxonomists, if they're listening out there, are just groaning
because you know, they're wait a second, he's saying monocots,
you know, evolved because of great No, I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying that in the case of turf grass,
it really does demonstrate, you know, how a plant is
not hurt by something that's that feeds on it all
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the time. So that's why it grows from the bottom up.
But if we, you know again, step back and observe
and consider. Okay, two things about this. Number One is,
like you said, if we use uh, you know, mowers
that return, if you know, we have a lot of
different names for them, you know, recycling mowers. What's another
(40:24):
name for these bowers this case, malting? I love it multing.
That's exactly right. And in the fall, it really they
really become mulching mowers. You not talked about this many times.
You know, the you know raking up and getting rid
of leaves, raking up or you know bagging getting rid
(40:45):
of of turf grass clippings. Well, you're just sending your
your nutrients down the road, you know, to a landfill,
when in fact, if you use a mulching mower, recycling
mulching mowers, so everything's being returned, then you cut back
some of the research in at Ohio State, for example,
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you cut back basically one application of nitrogen per season.
It's that impactful. And you know, and nutrients like phosphorus
that don't move that quickly, and that's the key here.
So phosphorus and potassium and well, of course we know
magnesium and calcium. We usually have plenty of that in
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the soil, so you don't need to be too worried about that.
But phosphorus and potassium, they migrate very slowly through the
soil unlike nitrogen. And when you think about it, then
that's just perfect for recycling. So the kind of multi
mowers that we're talking about ron are those that have
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a specific blade for it. You can go out and
buy a multing blade and you can put it on
a standard mower, but the results are not as good
as with a multimower with a deck that's been designed
to be a mulching mower. It's helpful, don't get me wrong.
If you if you have a mower that is not
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designed to be a multimower and you have in it
bags the clippings, then you can put a maulting blade
on and you can achieve you know, maybe fifty percent
of what you would like to see. Unfortunately, that's also though,
where mulching mowers can have you gotten kind of a
bad reputation for clumping. It's very often that a person
(42:32):
is not using a designed machine right because these mulching mowers.
I have one, and I don't get clumping anymore than
anybody else because there's the other key here MO often
and MO high.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Here I.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
The setting of the motor. I'm sorry. Yes, yes, our
seventies time period are coming back to us, right, some
of you know Summer saying what did he mean by that?
My point meaning though, is yes, I got it, I
got it. You want to bring that mower, you want
to bring that mower deck up, let's face it, to
(43:14):
the highest setting.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Right For most moores, it's about right for.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Most mowers, it's the highest setting and then mo often
so you're not removing a lot of the plant.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
And by the way, you talk about professional grazers, yeah,
Gary Sullivan, I you give us the right or derv table.
We are truly professional grazers.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Oh there you go. Yeah, yeah, buddy, all four of it.
You show up.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Just do you got it? Bucket, Joe, Bog's always a pleasure.
We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
You take care of by bye bye.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Thanks all of our callers, Thanks to our sponsors. Takes
of course to our producer Danny Gleeson, because without Danny,
none other stuffould happens. So Dan, thank you so much
for all that you do to make this show go.
Now do yourself a favor. Figure We're going to plant
a tree or two or three. Keep planting those native plants,
native selections, be pollinator friendly, pay for your worms, get
your kids and dogs involved gardening, and by all means,
(44:08):
make it the best weekend of your life. See you green,
Tom or not.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Ron can help at one eight hundred eighty two three
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