August 17, 2024 • 44 mins
Ron takes your calls. Also, Gary Sullivan and Buggy Joe check in
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about
yarding two weeks away from the start of the meteorological fall.
Can't wait. I love the fall season. Fall is for planting.
Not only is it you know, I get excited because
it's for planting, but I love the fall season itself,
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the sights and the smells and the cool, crisp bear.
I can't wait plus effect to get out and do
some planting as well. Get your plans in place, because
it's right around the corner. Our website, Ron Wilson online
dot com our plant of the Week this annual, and
I talked to Gary Bachmann about this earlier, our Southern
gardener in the South zones eight. In South it's a receeder.
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It's very aggressive. It's one of those annuals that are
perennials that you know, you plant it and it comes
back from seed or rhizomes, either way, but so they
are kind of hesitanting about using. But in the zones
seven and North it typically doesn't over winter. The seeds
sometimes may come up, but not aggressive like they're getting
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it like it is in the South. It's grown as
an annual. Great in containers, great in the ground. It's bold,
three to four feet high, three feet wide. But let
me tell you something. Once this plant gets itself established
and you've got to keep it water for two or
three weeks. But once it gets rooted in, it is
so tough and so durable. It loves the sun, it
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loves the heat, and it flowers like crazy every day.
It's called Ruella ruella, or common name Mexican petunia, sometimes
called Mexican bluebell. But I'm telling you this annual for
us in zone six is absolutely every day is a
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purple type flower. There's other varieties, but this particular one
has purple flowers, dark stems, nice green leaves. They flush out,
just cover themselves with these purple flowers. In the morning
they open up six sus the sun st starts to
lighten up. They're open, they're ready to go. By seven
or eight o'clock at night, they're done. They fall apart
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and they fall off. The plants not messy. They just dissolve,
go away, and the next morning they're all back again.
It is unreal what this plant can do. And this
to show you the toughness of this plant's called ruella
or Mexican petunia. We had a piece that broke off.
Mower king too close to it and I'm sorry, and
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the piece broke off. There's a long piece about three
feet long, and my wife took it and stuck it
in a bucket of water, and I said, that's not
going to work. What do I know? Right? What do
I know? Because the next day that thing, even though
the leaves kind of wilted down on this branch, actually
started flowering the next day and has continued for the
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last ten days in a bucket of water, with the
leaves wielded down flowering every day. That shows you how
tough it is. It's again plant it as an annual
for us, and you won't find it until next year,
but put it on your list Mexican petunia or ruella
and if you want to see it, go to our
website at Ron Wilson online dot com. Also, the recipe
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of the week this week is one of our most popular,
next to cherry Bounce with Rita. I think this one
gets a lot of play as well. It's my mom's
pickled pepper recipe nels peppers, pickled peppers, and it's such
an easy recipe. Anybody can do it, and if you've
never pickled anything before, here's an easy way to get started.
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It's a very simple way to do it. And you
can do hot peppers, sweet peppers, combination of the two.
I like throwing in green the cherry tomatoes. You know,
you can do sweet peppers with just one hot pepper
and you get a little You can do whatever combination
you like. But you can dice up green green tomatoes.
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You can put in green cherry tomatoes along with your peppers,
put in the shasheetos in there. Whatever it may be.
But it's Nell's famous pickled pepper recipe. We put it
out every year. I don't know anybody that's ever used
it that did not like it. I get emails all
the time seeing your mom's pickled pepper recipe really easy
and so good. Now she uses two cups of sugar. Rita,
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on the other hand, doesn't do the two cups of sugar.
She usually cuts back to two or three tablespoons. I
think something like that. But I tell you what, if
you like I'm sweet, this this one really works. I
get adjust the sugar to your taste. But it's my
mom's special pickled pepper recipe. Yeah, Nail's famous pickle peppers.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And you'll find it on our website at Ron Wilson
online dot com. Guaranteed you will like it. And if
you've never pickled anything before, this is a great one
to get started with. All right, So the Guardian phone lines,
we shall go. Let's see here we have John in Louisiana.
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
How are you good?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
John? Yourself?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm tying, thank you. I'm wondering if you could help me.
Do you know what's the problem in what I might
treat it with? I have some multiple crpe myrtles, and
the tops of leaves and the stems and even a trunks,
and they're all turning black, and on the stems there's
a brunch of white spots on them.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yes, it's really black. And then even another decorative plant
like this beneath the crape myrtle, which is I think
it's just a ypain, it's even turning black.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yep. For what you're describing to me, the spots that
you're seeing on the stems is an insect. It's a
sucking insect. It's called scale, and that's crape myrtle scale.
And that's you'll you know again, you'll see those along
the stems. Underneath that is an insect that's sucking nutrients
out of the plant. That's how they live, and then
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they excrete. Their poop is basically just it's like a
feeding machine. It goes in one in and out the other.
It's called honeydew. And the honeydew is clear, and sometimes
you'll see this clear, shiny stuff on the leaves for
a while and it falls on things, gets on your
car or whatever. But then that starts to mold and
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it turns black and that turns into sooty mold. So
you have a combination of the scale which is taking
nutrients away from the crape myrtle. Unless you have a
really heavy population, the crape myrtles canine to go and
it doesn't really cause any damage. If it gets heavy populations,
it can cause them some issues down the road. But
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again that's what's happening. So that honeydew comes out, falls
on the leaves, falls on the branches, falls on plants
below it. And so like you had this tree and
it was over patio furniture, it can even grow on
the patio furniture but that's called sooty mold, and so
you get the all three of those together, so it
looks looks kind of bad, but it's a good indicator
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to show you that you've got the got that on there.
So treatment wise, you're going to do two things. You're
going to go after the crawlers as they hatch out,
and you may use a systemic as well inside to
take up and then timing is is very critical. So
what I would do and I'm not sure exactly when
the crawlers come out of the scale on crape myrtle,
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so I would have to look and see. But if
you email me, I'll find out for you when's the
best time as far as the contact spray to try
to get those under control, and when to use the
systemic as well. But that's what you're looking at, or
you can take a go to your local garden center
and they can show you too. But if you email
me John, I'll get back with you and show you
the proper timing as far as applications. But that's what
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it is. A scale that's honeydew, black sooty mold, that's
that's turning black on the bottom, and it can be
suppressed and gotten under control for you, and and the
sooty mold eventually does weather off over time once you
get rid of the scale.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Okay, all right, and what is your email address?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Ron Wilson at iHeartMedia dot com.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (08:34):
All right?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
All right, John, good talking to you. And roll tied
Harold in Alabama, good.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Morning, Hey, good morning Ron. The guy there in the
Leiguey Inna with the city mode, he's got a bigger
problem in about seven weeks, Crimson tide.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I love it's even going after the.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
When he gets rid of the suity mode. Yeah, he's
got a bigger problem. Fourteen days, fourteen days of tidro.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I know. Two weeks from today we got the Buckeyes
playing too. They aren't playing. I think they play Akron
or somebody like that. But nevertheless it kicks off.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Good deal.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Hey, question all my dahlias. When can I dig the
tubers up? Because all the ones I planted last year,
I thought the tubers would make it through the winter,
but they didn't. So I think this year I'm going
to dig them up. So when do I do that?
And how do I store them?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You know? You know what we wind up doing is
letting the mother nature when you start getting a couple
of frosts to kill the top, kill the tops off,
and then we go back, pull them out of the ground,
clean them up, uh, you know, seize them a little bit,
and then store them away for the winter. So you've
got a ways to go yet, you know you want
to keep Are they still I'm assuming they're still flowering
for you? Oh god, yes, so yeah, let them Let
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them keep going. But let mother nature. You know, you
don't want to heavy freeze, otherwise it would freeze him,
but that would take a long time for that to happen.
Let mother nature just frost them for you a little bit,
start to turn brown because they react pretty quickly. Pull
them out, clean them off, and storm away. And again
when you storm away, fifty fifty five degrees, keep it
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cool but about fifty five and keep it dark, and
then you should be good to go.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
We'll do.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
But I'm pulling my amarillas back into the garage today
in the dark to let them sit for eight weeks
and then bring them back out. Says they'll flush and
bloom for Christmasing.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yep, going for the holiday season. Your your timing is perfect, okay,
perfect good Dale.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
All right. My Also, my other timing that's perfect is
Buggy Joe's coming on here a little bit, so make
sure he knows it's fourteen days of the Tide Roads.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I will let him know he's listening. All right, Harold,
good talking to you. I appreciate the call. Roll Tide,
Roll Bucks go, you k go UC and all the
rest of my favorite teams out there. Did I say
roll Tide is a favorite?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I did not say that. All right, let's take a
quick break, and I would never say that.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Coming up next to Gary Solivan a little home improvement
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Speaker 1 (14:22):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson in
his time for the Man, the Mint, the Legend, the
most listened to, hol I Broumn, show host in the
entire Solar System. His website, Garysolivon Online dot Com. Ladies
and gentlemen, the one, the Only Mister Gary son of
mister Wilson, How are you I am great. Did you
see the Farmer's Almanac forecast for this Yes, cold, wet
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and white for our area.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Didn't they say that the last couple of years?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So Okay, when I read that, I said, boy, where
we hurting it before?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Now this is the farmer. So in about ten days
we get the old farmers right, and then we'll compare
the two. And yeah, listen to Ron Roethlis and tell
us what is really going to happen?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. I do think last year
for sure, and maybe even the year before that that
was predicted. And I think I've used the snowblower maybe
one time in the last two years. Maybe I was
going to I'm sure I used it last year once.
I was going to say, I don't remember. It wasn't
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a very big one. It was maybe like a two
inch snow or three inch.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You just wanted to use it, just so you can
say I used it one.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It was gassed up, it was ready to go.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Run.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I had to do it. It's like a pressure washer.
You just gotta use, just got to use it. It's
gonna sit there, you bet you. I'm going to bring
that thing on and use it. You better believe it,
and I did. But Gary also realized that thing's probably
about thirty years old. It's probably on this last leg.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Oh me, Oh well, so it goes there, you go, well,
maybe hopefully you'll get some more snow.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And well I don't necessarily want that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh okay, I thought maybe you wanted that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Okay, I can go without it, It's all right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Where you could always get the pressure washer out with hot.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Water, hot water and uh what hair drier and then
blow drying. Yeah, somebody will come up with that. Well,
I guess they got them. They got leaf blowers. Yeah,
I guess that could be a little bit heated driveway dryer.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Do they do that? I'm going to guess that they
do that. Do they put heating cables in driveways?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Oh? Sure? Yeah, there's even I can't remember the name
of it, but there's even a mat that has cables
running through it. You know, like a rubberised man or
a type of material that actually gets plugged in to
a ground fault circuit protected outlet. Plugged in in this
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matte heats so you can get it where you know,
it can do your sidewalk to your car or whatever
you wouldn't want to put it on the whole dry,
but a stoop or something and sidewalk in front of
your house. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So you don't just step outside and down the stairs
you go.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
That's right. But you know, I'm sure people use them
for decks, especially if they got a pet that has
to go outside occasionally.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And but yeah, yeah, they make Not only do they
make cables that go through concrete, they also have it
where there's pipes that run hot water through it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Uh, greenhouses do that. I know some friends up in
Cleveland took a pretty good, good sized area concrete with
the pipes through it because they have a boiler for
the greenhouse, right, and they're able to grow things out
there early spring, and it protects it from the frost
because of the heat from the concrete, so they can
use take advantage of cooler temperatures to keep the plants
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squattier and fuller. Yet it also protects them from any
cold temperatures and the freezes that would come through.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I'm sure that's pretty expensive.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Or it's not cheap.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I'm back in the day. This was a long time ago,
and we lived in Greensburg, Indiana. My parents built. Our
home is a peace home, you remember peace. And in
the dining room it had heating cables in the ceiling.
Oh yeah, yeah, they still.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Get calls on that. How do you repair them?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, that was a big deal, the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But yeah, they did those for sure. It was. It
was fairly decent heat too. It was a radiant heat.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And the dining room is right where the sliding glass
doors were to go outside and the door to go
into the garage. Right, So I guess that was why
they put it in there, a little extra heat in
that little extra But yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Interesting, he's homes there. You go build your own home, Yes, sir,
go to Hamilton and walk through all these were the
Seers homes.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And the Seers and Robuck homes.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right, let's get it on mail or.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Have it shipped and delivered.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know, looking back, they kind of blew it, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well? Doesn't Amazon do something like.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That in today's world? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Really talk about adjusting with the times. I guess huh.
I guess they had that figured out a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You were doing it by phone and mail. You weren't
doing it via Wi Fi and the.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Telephone, and it was there actually talking to somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, it was there, but it was there, yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
No doubt. So what are we talking about today? Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I got tons of everything, as I'm sure you do. Yes,
because we're kind of in that transitional period, are you say,
fall quote September first, So we're just going to talk
about all kinds of things from repairing damage from the summer,
inspecting roofs and sidings and brick walls. And I've had
(19:51):
two mice in my house for on two mice. Got
them both though, got them both. I might have more though, right,
all of them, we don't know, no, But I got
the second one. This morning. We had the doors open
because we replaced the ceramic floor in the kitchen. And
you know, when you invite him in, guess what.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
They come in? Oh, look at this guy. He's got
the door over before us keep their correage.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
We love Gary, He's inviting us in.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's a party at Sully's house.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
All right, Well, have a great show, mister Sullivan. All right,
Garysullivan online dot com. Coming up next, Buggy Joe Boggs
Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Not gardening questions.
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Speaker 1 (22:42):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. By
the way, UH, someone to ask what was the name
of that website for Dan Childs and his books. It's
Wildflower Books by Dan dot com. That's Wildflower Books by
Dan dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for
or the Buggy Joe Boggs report. That would be Joe Boggs,
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Assistant Professor, Ohio State University Extension, Hamild the County Associated
Faculty OSHU Department of Entomology, co leader of the OSU Extension,
Buck Eye Environmental Horticultural Team. Of course, their website b
y g L dot os U dot e Edu. Ladies
and gentlemen, mister common sensical himself Bucky Joe Buggs, Well,
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good morning, how are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I don't know about don't know about the sound effects,
but good morning. How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I am good. I don't know if you caught two things.
One is Harold. Harold remind you that in two weeks
it would be all over for the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Oh yeah, all over. That's they'll be all over the field.
They'll be all over, all over, you know, and everything exactly.
I'm already got that. I'm glad that he recognized that
our back, our cover bridge is really good this year.
We're going to be all.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Over all over everywhere. That's right, that's.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Right, all over everywhere. I'm sure that's what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I know that's what he was saying.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So what's he going to do without saving that he has?
He has, he really talked about.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He has, and he said, doesn't matter. It's the tide
and there'll be right there. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Ye, Okay, Well, I am excited about this season though,
seriously across the board, I mean it is true. Yeah,
Alabama's got a new coach and you know we yeah,
i mean, let's face at Alabama, we have it. You're
going to have a soft spot for some of these
teams just because of their legacy, right so the South, Yeah,
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that's probably the Yeah, I'd say that's the way to
look at it.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They are.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Oh man, you're going to get a phone call, probably emails.
So things are happenings are happening out there. Well, you know,
I predicted something earlier in the season, and I don't
know if it's going to come to fruition. I'm not
saying that I'm that I'm crawl fishing here, you know, backflag. No,
(25:24):
I'm not saying that that that I'm pulling away from
my early prediction.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Crawl fishing.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
But you never heard that crawl fishing. You know you're
crawl fishing. Yeah, yeah, that's where you know you're you're
backing up on something, right, because you know how crayfish,
they go backwards forwards, So that's exactly Yeah, crawl fishing.
I mean, that's crawl fishing. Crawl fishing, that's right, I
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mean that's even me and then crawl that and then
that two fay, wait where do we go? Which I love?
But anyway, you know, we're starting to pick up quite
a few reports about bald face hornets nests, which is
really kind of a surprise. I sort of thought they
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would be further along now. Of course, as we moved
further south from Ohio, they are further along, but still
I thought I'm getting reports and pictures where they're just
about half the size of what they will eventually be.
Maybe even a little less. The yellow jackets were another
thing too, because if you recall back in the spring,
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we talked about this, I got I had a few
email messages, one from a very good horticulturist, and she
thought that perhaps, you know, yellow jackets were overwintering in
the nest because of the number of yellow jackets she
was seeing and what was happening. Of course, same thing.
I was seeing a lot of yellow jackets in the spring,
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but these were queens, These were individuals and weren't coming
from nests. So just kind of as a reminder to everyone,
you know, all these nests are started by a single queen.
She was made in the previous fall. She starts the
nest in the spring, and then she you know, does
everything herself. At first, builds the nests, lays eggs, and
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gathers food for the larvae because remember they're predators. But eventually, eventually,
you know, she'll get some help. There'll be some workers
that will hatch from those eggs, which are also females,
and they sting because females have overpositors, which that's stingers
are modified overpositors. So all that's going to be happening.
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But then eventually there may be multiple queens, which then
that's when things really get rolling. So based on those
reports in the spring, I'll tell you, Ron, I really
thought we were going to be inundated, and it may
still happen, but I'm now also concerned. What else did
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we have in the spring. We had a lot of rain,
which you know we sort of got away from it
in June and.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Uh stop raining.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yeah, it's really amazing when you look back. Oh, I
know I did I say that. I may have said
that maybe stop raining for Ohio.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yeah, well so so that may have affected the yellow
jackets that nest in the ground, which you know quite
a few do, and some species nest both places above
and below ground.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I've got to reports reports of stings this week.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Where I was watering the shrouds and all of a
sudden it came out and got me.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Well, you know, that's where we need to kind of
take a close look, because if you call last year
or I even did a big old alert about it,
we have a type of a non native wasp called
a European paper wasp, and it looks like a yellow jacket.
It has the black and white, black and yellow markings
of a yellow jacket. But the body is the body
(29:17):
of a wasp, has that very narrow waste, you know,
very long legs, sort of a decent sized insect. And
they love to nest in in in shrubbery. They're kind
of like the money pythons, you know, a little shrubbery right.
I'll tell you, nobody's going to get that one, are they.
They're going to have to be a certain age to
get a money Python reference.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I don't watch Monty Python. I got it.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I goll you that's okay, all right, that's that's the
knights that say knit you know. That's so any rate,
I don't know where this is going. We got it,
then you got it. I think we start playing stuff
like that right with out getting in trouble. But any rate,
they do like to nest in in shrubbery, and that
(30:08):
is the source of that's been the source of quite
a few stings over the years where people will be,
you know, treming shrubbery. They're not so aggressive if you
walk past, they're going to just you know, jump out
on you. But but doing anything to threaten a nest
or they perceive to threaten a s and and then
you're kind of in trouble, which brings back around to
(30:30):
this whole idea of when and when a person should
or shouldn't tackle getting rid of these beneficial insects. And
I'm kind of waiting for some questions and so forth
so that we can do this after the break, what would.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You breakout figure out how to take care of those?
Should you do it yourself? Professionals?
Speaker 5 (30:54):
I think maybe yes. After the break, I was looking
at my watch and I was thinking, oh my gosh,
I shouldn't have had so much coffee. I'm talking fast?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Is that? What is that? It that? That's what makes
you talk fast? Explains a lot right there.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
That explains a lot right there. You all should be
able to tell, you know, if after the half hour,
I've only said like three words that man, I didn't
have coffee.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
More decaffeinated coffee.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, really more with Buggy Joe Boggs. After the break,
here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (33:25):
Welcome back, You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for Part two. The Buggy Joe Bobbs Your Part. Joe
Bobs O s U extension their website b y g
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Speaker 5 (33:44):
Here we are back again. You know what we were
talking about before with this whole idea that you know,
what do you do if you walk out your back porch,
you know, walk out your back door and you're on
your back porch and you look right over and a
few seat from the doors is a bald faced hornet sniff?
Do you aid? Run screaming from the from the porch?
(34:07):
Could be b B Go get a baseball bat and
you know, just kind of for the Yeah, swinging for
the for the outfield? Is that what you do? Or
swinging for the fences? Thank you? I could not get
that a rates or do you see? Just take a
(34:31):
look at what they're doing and first process, why did
they not attack you immediately? And second you know that
they've been there since the spring, so maybe they're even
used to you. All bets are off, Yes, all bets
are off. Though if a person, if you are a person,
is is allergic to be stings. That's one thing that
(34:53):
that we we've talked about before. You know that there
is no good reason to take any kind of a
risk and having a a horn and nest near at
hand because they are they are most aggressive aggressive in
defending their nests. However, as I said, that nest has
been there since the beginning of the growing season, since
the spring, so it's just been small and I would
(35:18):
I would say it's most likely they've gotten used to people,
you know, coming and going. They don't perceive that as
a threat. However, if you really want to, just you know,
check it out to see, Okay, are they going to
be a problem, are they going to be aggressive? I
just gave this advice to a homeowner here in Cincinnati
(35:38):
just this past week, and it's I just described exactly
what the situation was. Nest only about three feet from
the from the back porch or the back door, which
has a back porch, and they do use the back porch,
so it wasn't like, you know, they hadn't used it
and all of a sudden he found this. So I said,
you know, next time that the she leaves the house
(36:01):
that way, you know, just stop right at the at
the exit and look at that nest and see what's happening.
If they're paying no attention, you know, they're just flying
in and out, well that's a good sign. The other
thing to do, though, is to look at the entrance
hole because bold face hornets always have at least one,
sometimes two guards, and the guards will be the guards
(36:25):
will be stationed looking out of the hole, so with
that white and black face, you can really see them,
and that's their job. They just you know, they're just
right there looking out of the hole and making sure
because you know, they're on guard duty, making sure nothing's
sneaking up on the nest. But can you can sort
of gauge just how concerned the hornets are going to
(36:49):
be by very slowly, you know, moving towards the nest
and watching those guards. If you see all of a
sudden another head pop out, you know, another guard and
two or three pop out and they're looking at you. Now,
they will not just come streaming out. They'll pop out first.
They're checking you out. They're assessing whether you're a threat
(37:11):
or not. And that also kind of gives you an
idea of how close you can get to the nest. Again,
I'm making sure everybody understands what I'm saying, don't do
this if you're allergic to them, and go slow and
just pay attention to what you're seeing. It's really to me,
it's a very interesting thing to see because you start
(37:33):
picking up on their behavior. You know, last year I
gave this advice to a homeowner and he started inviting
friends over just to watch this hornet's nest, and they
started seeing things like the hornets were actually not just
they grind up caterpillars which we might call pass right
and bring that meat back to the well. They saw
(37:55):
them actually bringing back some caterpillars, which I've never heard
of that and I must have just you know, ground
them up inside the nest. So again they are they
are predaceous. They have to feed their young meat, so
they have to go out and grind up, like I said, caterpillars,
which you know could be box tree malls, you know,
(38:16):
consuming box woods. Right there you go like that, which
I did a very quick segue, because man, you said
you had like ten in one day or.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Ten and just this week.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
No, it was yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
But you know what was interesting here a couple of
weeks ago I got I had a few, uh, and
it seemed like throughout the summer as I was getting
these reports of you know, what is this and then
like a small patch in one box wood one plane. Yeah, yeah,
uh nothing there. They looked, said, no caterpillars, nothing there,
but there was damages, just a six by six area.
(38:55):
I thought was kind of interesting because that was all
the damage that they got and then there's nothing left there.
And then I was kind of like, well, I wonder if,
I mean, could could wasps have come in there and
cleared them out.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
You know on that last year I mean last right,
oh yeah, yeah, last year on the very the infestation
where it was discovered.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
It's just very quickly, what do we talk about?
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You know, tuning in box tree moth is a non
native that fees on boxwoods. Now, don't get excited, don't
go out and spray box woods and don't even yeah,
and also don't reject using box woods because okay, you're
hearing about this. It's it would only kill the box
woods if you totally ignored them, because you know, they
are very they're subject to insecticides. Uh, they're not hard
(39:44):
to kill. In fact, I'm going to be posting an
alert about this just so that people are you know,
are solid about what to do. But but it last year,
I and a bunch of others visited the original site
where they were first discovered in Ohio and and if
you recall on you're right, yellowjackets were the box woods
(40:06):
were buzzing. Literally, I mean I'm not you could get
stand there and it's like, oh gosh, it's it's like being
near a beehive. Now I can't. I don't know if
you can get such heavy predation that you totally decimate
the the box treemonk caterpillars, I don't know, but you know,
in that case, we were amazed. And the funny side
(40:29):
note was, you know, I wanted to be taking pictures
and tracking these things, and this was in kind of
a this was in a park where they they weren't
going to do anything about it, which is you know,
a prerogative of anyone. And and so these yellow jackets were.
They were ruining my photo opportunity. That's it. And so
(40:51):
so it was kind of a funny thing. It's like, well,
I should be rooting them on, and and part of
me was, yeah, like the you know, this would be
the other part of it was like, oh no, wait
a second. You know, saved a few caterpillars. I can
take pictures. But it was a very heavy It was
a very heavy attack. By yellow jackets. And you know,
(41:11):
I once do just I tried to take pictures of it.
But I once watched yellow jackets come in and one
at a time remove redheaded pine sawflies from a mugo pine. Oops,
I take that back. I think they could have been
European pine saftwies. But nevertheless, the point being is one
(41:33):
or the other. But the point being is that they're major,
you know, they're considerable pets. You know, they you know,
consume the needles and and I tried to take pictures.
And it's funny because I was even thirty five millimeter film,
but you can't immediately look at right, none like today
when you can look at what you've taken a picture of.
And so these yellow jackets would come in and then
(41:55):
they'd fly off, and I kept trying to take the
picture as they were starting to leave with the caterpillar,
and I got nothing. I mean, I suppose I always said,
you know, if you count the number of seftflies, you
see there's one less in each picture. And then there
was one picture it kind of just looked like a
floating saftfly. It just was out there kind of at
(42:15):
the upper part of the pictures. And you really couldn't
tell what was happening levitating softly. But I do believe
we underestimate the impact overall of bald faced hornets, paper
wasp and yellow jackets. They're all wasps. They're all grouped
together as wasps. But again, they feed their young meat.
(42:38):
They're young cannot develop without that protein. And I don't
know if they would wipe out an entire population of
box tream off, but they wouldn't do them any good.
Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
It just seemed kind of weird because it was just
such a small area and they couldn't find any more
caterpillars and that was it. That was all that they got.
It's kind of like, what would have happened.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
It could have happened.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
You never know. In the world of insect you never know.
Buggy Joe Bogs. Always a pleasure of great information. We
will talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
You have a great week, Ron, take care and bye
bye you too.
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Call Ron now at one eight hundred eighty two three
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I'm John Walzac, host of the new podcast Missing in Arizona.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy, talking about
yarding two weeks away from the start of the meteorological fall.
Can't wait. I love the fall season. Fall is for planting.
Not only is it you know, I get excited because
it's for planting, but I love the fall season itself,
(00:56):
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I can't wait plus effect to get out and do
some planting as well. Get your plans in place, because
it's right around the corner. Our website, Ron Wilson online
dot com our plant of the Week this annual, and
I talked to Gary Bachmann about this earlier, our Southern
gardener in the South zones eight. In South it's a receeder.
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It's very aggressive. It's one of those annuals that are
perennials that you know, you plant it and it comes
back from seed or rhizomes, either way, but so they
are kind of hesitanting about using. But in the zones
seven and North it typically doesn't over winter. The seeds
sometimes may come up, but not aggressive like they're getting
(01:40):
it like it is in the South. It's grown as
an annual. Great in containers, great in the ground. It's bold,
three to four feet high, three feet wide. But let
me tell you something. Once this plant gets itself established
and you've got to keep it water for two or
three weeks. But once it gets rooted in, it is
so tough and so durable. It loves the sun, it
(02:01):
loves the heat, and it flowers like crazy every day.
It's called Ruella ruella, or common name Mexican petunia, sometimes
called Mexican bluebell. But I'm telling you this annual for
us in zone six is absolutely every day is a
(02:23):
purple type flower. There's other varieties, but this particular one
has purple flowers, dark stems, nice green leaves. They flush out,
just cover themselves with these purple flowers. In the morning
they open up six sus the sun st starts to
lighten up. They're open, they're ready to go. By seven
or eight o'clock at night, they're done. They fall apart
(02:44):
and they fall off. The plants not messy. They just dissolve,
go away, and the next morning they're all back again.
It is unreal what this plant can do. And this
to show you the toughness of this plant's called ruella
or Mexican petunia. We had a piece that broke off.
Mower king too close to it and I'm sorry, and
(03:04):
the piece broke off. There's a long piece about three
feet long, and my wife took it and stuck it
in a bucket of water, and I said, that's not
going to work. What do I know? Right? What do
I know? Because the next day that thing, even though
the leaves kind of wilted down on this branch, actually
started flowering the next day and has continued for the
(03:26):
last ten days in a bucket of water, with the
leaves wielded down flowering every day. That shows you how
tough it is. It's again plant it as an annual
for us, and you won't find it until next year,
but put it on your list Mexican petunia or ruella
and if you want to see it, go to our
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(03:47):
of the week this week is one of our most popular,
next to cherry Bounce with Rita. I think this one
gets a lot of play as well. It's my mom's
pickled pepper recipe nels peppers, pickled peppers, and it's such
an easy recipe. Anybody can do it, and if you've
never pickled anything before, here's an easy way to get started.
(04:08):
It's a very simple way to do it. And you
can do hot peppers, sweet peppers, combination of the two.
I like throwing in green the cherry tomatoes. You know,
you can do sweet peppers with just one hot pepper
and you get a little You can do whatever combination
you like. But you can dice up green green tomatoes.
(04:29):
You can put in green cherry tomatoes along with your peppers,
put in the shasheetos in there. Whatever it may be.
But it's Nell's famous pickled pepper recipe. We put it
out every year. I don't know anybody that's ever used
it that did not like it. I get emails all
the time seeing your mom's pickled pepper recipe really easy
and so good. Now she uses two cups of sugar. Rita,
(04:51):
on the other hand, doesn't do the two cups of sugar.
She usually cuts back to two or three tablespoons. I
think something like that. But I tell you what, if
you like I'm sweet, this this one really works. I
get adjust the sugar to your taste. But it's my
mom's special pickled pepper recipe. Yeah, Nail's famous pickle peppers.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And you'll find it on our website at Ron Wilson
online dot com. Guaranteed you will like it. And if
you've never pickled anything before, this is a great one
to get started with. All right, So the Guardian phone lines,
we shall go. Let's see here we have John in Louisiana.
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
How are you good?
Speaker 1 (05:30):
John? Yourself?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'm tying, thank you. I'm wondering if you could help me.
Do you know what's the problem in what I might
treat it with? I have some multiple crpe myrtles, and
the tops of leaves and the stems and even a trunks,
and they're all turning black, and on the stems there's
a brunch of white spots on them.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yes, it's really black. And then even another decorative plant
like this beneath the crape myrtle, which is I think
it's just a ypain, it's even turning black.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yep. For what you're describing to me, the spots that
you're seeing on the stems is an insect. It's a
sucking insect. It's called scale, and that's crape myrtle scale.
And that's you'll you know again, you'll see those along
the stems. Underneath that is an insect that's sucking nutrients
out of the plant. That's how they live, and then
(06:25):
they excrete. Their poop is basically just it's like a
feeding machine. It goes in one in and out the other.
It's called honeydew. And the honeydew is clear, and sometimes
you'll see this clear, shiny stuff on the leaves for
a while and it falls on things, gets on your
car or whatever. But then that starts to mold and
(06:45):
it turns black and that turns into sooty mold. So
you have a combination of the scale which is taking
nutrients away from the crape myrtle. Unless you have a
really heavy population, the crape myrtles canine to go and
it doesn't really cause any damage. If it gets heavy populations,
it can cause them some issues down the road. But
(07:06):
again that's what's happening. So that honeydew comes out, falls
on the leaves, falls on the branches, falls on plants
below it. And so like you had this tree and
it was over patio furniture, it can even grow on
the patio furniture but that's called sooty mold, and so
you get the all three of those together, so it
looks looks kind of bad, but it's a good indicator
(07:26):
to show you that you've got the got that on there.
So treatment wise, you're going to do two things. You're
going to go after the crawlers as they hatch out,
and you may use a systemic as well inside to
take up and then timing is is very critical. So
what I would do and I'm not sure exactly when
the crawlers come out of the scale on crape myrtle,
(07:49):
so I would have to look and see. But if
you email me, I'll find out for you when's the
best time as far as the contact spray to try
to get those under control, and when to use the
systemic as well. But that's what you're looking at, or
you can take a go to your local garden center
and they can show you too. But if you email
me John, I'll get back with you and show you
the proper timing as far as applications. But that's what
(08:10):
it is. A scale that's honeydew, black sooty mold, that's
that's turning black on the bottom, and it can be
suppressed and gotten under control for you, and and the
sooty mold eventually does weather off over time once you
get rid of the scale.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Okay, all right, and what is your email address?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Ron Wilson at iHeartMedia dot com.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (08:34):
All right?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
All right, John, good talking to you. And roll tied
Harold in Alabama, good.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Morning, Hey, good morning Ron. The guy there in the
Leiguey Inna with the city mode, he's got a bigger
problem in about seven weeks, Crimson tide.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I love it's even going after the.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
When he gets rid of the suity mode. Yeah, he's
got a bigger problem. Fourteen days, fourteen days of tidro.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I know. Two weeks from today we got the Buckeyes
playing too. They aren't playing. I think they play Akron
or somebody like that. But nevertheless it kicks off.
Speaker 7 (09:09):
Good deal.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Hey, question all my dahlias. When can I dig the
tubers up? Because all the ones I planted last year,
I thought the tubers would make it through the winter,
but they didn't. So I think this year I'm going
to dig them up. So when do I do that?
And how do I store them?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You know? You know what we wind up doing is
letting the mother nature when you start getting a couple
of frosts to kill the top, kill the tops off,
and then we go back, pull them out of the ground,
clean them up, uh, you know, seize them a little bit,
and then store them away for the winter. So you've
got a ways to go yet, you know you want
to keep Are they still I'm assuming they're still flowering
for you? Oh god, yes, so yeah, let them Let
(09:53):
them keep going. But let mother nature. You know, you
don't want to heavy freeze, otherwise it would freeze him,
but that would take a long time for that to happen.
Let mother nature just frost them for you a little bit,
start to turn brown because they react pretty quickly. Pull
them out, clean them off, and storm away. And again
when you storm away, fifty fifty five degrees, keep it
(10:14):
cool but about fifty five and keep it dark, and
then you should be good to go.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
We'll do.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
But I'm pulling my amarillas back into the garage today
in the dark to let them sit for eight weeks
and then bring them back out. Says they'll flush and
bloom for Christmasing.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yep, going for the holiday season. Your your timing is perfect, okay,
perfect good Dale.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
All right. My Also, my other timing that's perfect is
Buggy Joe's coming on here a little bit, so make
sure he knows it's fourteen days of the Tide Roads.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I will let him know he's listening. All right, Harold,
good talking to you. I appreciate the call. Roll Tide,
Roll Bucks go, you k go UC and all the
rest of my favorite teams out there. Did I say
roll Tide is a favorite?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I did not say that. All right, let's take a
quick break, and I would never say that.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
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and gentlemen, the one, the Only Mister Gary son of
mister Wilson, How are you I am great. Did you
see the Farmer's Almanac forecast for this Yes, cold, wet
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and white for our area.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Didn't they say that the last couple of years?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So Okay, when I read that, I said, boy, where
we hurting it before?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Now this is the farmer. So in about ten days
we get the old farmers right, and then we'll compare
the two. And yeah, listen to Ron Roethlis and tell
us what is really going to happen?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. I do think last year
for sure, and maybe even the year before that that
was predicted. And I think I've used the snowblower maybe
one time in the last two years. Maybe I was
going to I'm sure I used it last year once.
I was going to say, I don't remember. It wasn't
(15:25):
a very big one. It was maybe like a two
inch snow or three inch.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You just wanted to use it, just so you can
say I used it one.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
It was gassed up, it was ready to go.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Run.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I had to do it. It's like a pressure washer.
You just gotta use, just got to use it. It's
gonna sit there, you bet you. I'm going to bring
that thing on and use it. You better believe it,
and I did. But Gary also realized that thing's probably
about thirty years old. It's probably on this last leg.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Oh me, Oh well, so it goes there, you go, well,
maybe hopefully you'll get some more snow.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And well I don't necessarily want that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Oh okay, I thought maybe you wanted that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Okay, I can go without it, It's all right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Where you could always get the pressure washer out with hot.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Water, hot water and uh what hair drier and then
blow drying. Yeah, somebody will come up with that. Well,
I guess they got them. They got leaf blowers. Yeah,
I guess that could be a little bit heated driveway dryer.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Do they do that? I'm going to guess that they
do that. Do they put heating cables in driveways?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Oh? Sure? Yeah, there's even I can't remember the name
of it, but there's even a mat that has cables
running through it. You know, like a rubberised man or
a type of material that actually gets plugged in to
a ground fault circuit protected outlet. Plugged in in this
(16:49):
matte heats so you can get it where you know,
it can do your sidewalk to your car or whatever
you wouldn't want to put it on the whole dry,
but a stoop or something and sidewalk in front of
your house. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
So you don't just step outside and down the stairs
you go.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
That's right. But you know, I'm sure people use them
for decks, especially if they got a pet that has
to go outside occasionally.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And but yeah, yeah, they make Not only do they
make cables that go through concrete, they also have it
where there's pipes that run hot water through it.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Uh, greenhouses do that. I know some friends up in
Cleveland took a pretty good, good sized area concrete with
the pipes through it because they have a boiler for
the greenhouse, right, and they're able to grow things out
there early spring, and it protects it from the frost
because of the heat from the concrete, so they can
use take advantage of cooler temperatures to keep the plants
(17:50):
squattier and fuller. Yet it also protects them from any
cold temperatures and the freezes that would come through.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I'm sure that's pretty expensive.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Or it's not cheap.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I'm back in the day. This was a long time ago,
and we lived in Greensburg, Indiana. My parents built. Our
home is a peace home, you remember peace. And in
the dining room it had heating cables in the ceiling.
Oh yeah, yeah, they still.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Get calls on that. How do you repair them?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, that was a big deal, the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
But yeah, they did those for sure. It was. It
was fairly decent heat too. It was a radiant heat.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And the dining room is right where the sliding glass
doors were to go outside and the door to go
into the garage. Right, So I guess that was why
they put it in there, a little extra heat in
that little extra But yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Interesting, he's homes there. You go build your own home, Yes, sir,
go to Hamilton and walk through all these were the
Seers homes.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And the Seers and Robuck homes.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right, let's get it on mail or.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Have it shipped and delivered.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know, looking back, they kind of blew it, didn't they.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well? Doesn't Amazon do something like.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That in today's world? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Really talk about adjusting with the times. I guess huh.
I guess they had that figured out a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You were doing it by phone and mail. You weren't
doing it via Wi Fi and the.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Telephone, and it was there actually talking to somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, it was there, but it was there, yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
No doubt. So what are we talking about today? Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I got tons of everything, as I'm sure you do. Yes,
because we're kind of in that transitional period, are you say,
fall quote September first, So we're just going to talk
about all kinds of things from repairing damage from the summer,
inspecting roofs and sidings and brick walls. And I've had
(19:51):
two mice in my house for on two mice. Got
them both though, got them both. I might have more though, right,
all of them, we don't know, no, But I got
the second one. This morning. We had the doors open
because we replaced the ceramic floor in the kitchen. And
you know, when you invite him in, guess what.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
They come in? Oh, look at this guy. He's got
the door over before us keep their correage.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
We love Gary, He's inviting us in.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's a party at Sully's house.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
All right, Well, have a great show, mister Sullivan. All right,
Garysullivan online dot com. Coming up next, Buggy Joe Boggs
Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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Speaker 1 (22:42):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. By
the way, UH, someone to ask what was the name
of that website for Dan Childs and his books. It's
Wildflower Books by Dan dot com. That's Wildflower Books by
Dan dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for
or the Buggy Joe Boggs report. That would be Joe Boggs,
(23:03):
Assistant Professor, Ohio State University Extension, Hamild the County Associated
Faculty OSHU Department of Entomology, co leader of the OSU Extension,
Buck Eye Environmental Horticultural Team. Of course, their website b
y g L dot os U dot e Edu. Ladies
and gentlemen, mister common sensical himself Bucky Joe Buggs, Well,
(23:29):
good morning, how are you, sir?
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I don't know about don't know about the sound effects,
but good morning. How you doing today?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I am good. I don't know if you caught two things.
One is Harold. Harold remind you that in two weeks
it would be all over for the Ohio State Buckeyes.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Oh yeah, all over. That's they'll be all over the field.
They'll be all over, all over, you know, and everything exactly.
I'm already got that. I'm glad that he recognized that
our back, our cover bridge is really good this year.
We're going to be all.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Over all over everywhere. That's right, that's.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Right, all over everywhere. I'm sure that's what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I know that's what he was saying.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So what's he going to do without saving that he has?
He has, he really talked about.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He has, and he said, doesn't matter. It's the tide
and there'll be right there. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Ye, Okay, Well, I am excited about this season though,
seriously across the board, I mean it is true. Yeah,
Alabama's got a new coach and you know we yeah,
i mean, let's face at Alabama, we have it. You're
going to have a soft spot for some of these
teams just because of their legacy, right so the South, Yeah,
(24:53):
that's probably the Yeah, I'd say that's the way to
look at it.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
They are.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Oh man, you're going to get a phone call, probably emails.
So things are happenings are happening out there. Well, you know,
I predicted something earlier in the season, and I don't
know if it's going to come to fruition. I'm not
saying that I'm that I'm crawl fishing here, you know, backflag. No,
(25:24):
I'm not saying that that that I'm pulling away from
my early prediction.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Crawl fishing.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
But you never heard that crawl fishing. You know you're
crawl fishing. Yeah, yeah, that's where you know you're you're
backing up on something, right, because you know how crayfish,
they go backwards forwards, So that's exactly Yeah, crawl fishing.
I mean, that's crawl fishing. Crawl fishing, that's right, I
(25:54):
mean that's even me and then crawl that and then
that two fay, wait where do we go? Which I love?
But anyway, you know, we're starting to pick up quite
a few reports about bald face hornets nests, which is
really kind of a surprise. I sort of thought they
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would be further along now. Of course, as we moved
further south from Ohio, they are further along, but still
I thought I'm getting reports and pictures where they're just
about half the size of what they will eventually be.
Maybe even a little less. The yellow jackets were another
thing too, because if you recall back in the spring,
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we talked about this, I got I had a few
email messages, one from a very good horticulturist, and she
thought that perhaps, you know, yellow jackets were overwintering in
the nest because of the number of yellow jackets she
was seeing and what was happening. Of course, same thing.
I was seeing a lot of yellow jackets in the spring,
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but these were queens, These were individuals and weren't coming
from nests. So just kind of as a reminder to everyone,
you know, all these nests are started by a single queen.
She was made in the previous fall. She starts the
nest in the spring, and then she you know, does
everything herself. At first, builds the nests, lays eggs, and
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gathers food for the larvae because remember they're predators. But eventually, eventually,
you know, she'll get some help. There'll be some workers
that will hatch from those eggs, which are also females,
and they sting because females have overpositors, which that's stingers
are modified overpositors. So all that's going to be happening.
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But then eventually there may be multiple queens, which then
that's when things really get rolling. So based on those
reports in the spring, I'll tell you, Ron, I really
thought we were going to be inundated, and it may
still happen, but I'm now also concerned. What else did
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we have in the spring. We had a lot of rain,
which you know we sort of got away from it
in June and.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Uh stop raining.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yeah, it's really amazing when you look back. Oh, I
know I did I say that. I may have said
that maybe stop raining for Ohio.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Yeah, well so so that may have affected the yellow
jackets that nest in the ground, which you know quite
a few do, and some species nest both places above
and below ground.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I've got to reports reports of stings this week.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Where I was watering the shrouds and all of a
sudden it came out and got me.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Well, you know, that's where we need to kind of
take a close look, because if you call last year
or I even did a big old alert about it,
we have a type of a non native wasp called
a European paper wasp, and it looks like a yellow jacket.
It has the black and white, black and yellow markings
of a yellow jacket. But the body is the body
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of a wasp, has that very narrow waste, you know,
very long legs, sort of a decent sized insect. And
they love to nest in in in shrubbery. They're kind
of like the money pythons, you know, a little shrubbery right.
I'll tell you, nobody's going to get that one, are they.
They're going to have to be a certain age to
get a money Python reference.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I don't watch Monty Python. I got it.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
I goll you that's okay, all right, that's that's the
knights that say knit you know. That's so any rate,
I don't know where this is going. We got it,
then you got it. I think we start playing stuff
like that right with out getting in trouble. But any rate,
they do like to nest in in shrubbery, and that
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is the source of that's been the source of quite
a few stings over the years where people will be,
you know, treming shrubbery. They're not so aggressive if you
walk past, they're going to just you know, jump out
on you. But but doing anything to threaten a nest
or they perceive to threaten a s and and then
you're kind of in trouble, which brings back around to
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this whole idea of when and when a person should
or shouldn't tackle getting rid of these beneficial insects. And
I'm kind of waiting for some questions and so forth
so that we can do this after the break, what would.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
You breakout figure out how to take care of those?
Should you do it yourself? Professionals?
Speaker 5 (30:54):
I think maybe yes. After the break, I was looking
at my watch and I was thinking, oh my gosh,
I shouldn't have had so much coffee. I'm talking fast?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Is that? What is that? It that? That's what makes
you talk fast? Explains a lot right there.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
That explains a lot right there. You all should be
able to tell, you know, if after the half hour,
I've only said like three words that man, I didn't
have coffee.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
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Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, really more with Buggy Joe Boggs. After the break,
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Speaker 1 (33:25):
Welcome back, You're in the garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for Part two. The Buggy Joe Bobbs Your Part. Joe
Bobs O s U extension their website b y g
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Speaker 5 (33:44):
Here we are back again. You know what we were
talking about before with this whole idea that you know,
what do you do if you walk out your back porch,
you know, walk out your back door and you're on
your back porch and you look right over and a
few seat from the doors is a bald faced hornet sniff?
Do you aid? Run screaming from the from the porch?
(34:07):
Could be b B Go get a baseball bat and
you know, just kind of for the Yeah, swinging for
the for the outfield? Is that what you do? Or
swinging for the fences? Thank you? I could not get
that a rates or do you see? Just take a
(34:31):
look at what they're doing and first process, why did
they not attack you immediately? And second you know that
they've been there since the spring, so maybe they're even
used to you. All bets are off, Yes, all bets
are off. Though if a person, if you are a person,
is is allergic to be stings. That's one thing that
(34:53):
that we we've talked about before. You know that there
is no good reason to take any kind of a
risk and having a a horn and nest near at
hand because they are they are most aggressive aggressive in
defending their nests. However, as I said, that nest has
been there since the beginning of the growing season, since
the spring, so it's just been small and I would
(35:18):
I would say it's most likely they've gotten used to people,
you know, coming and going. They don't perceive that as
a threat. However, if you really want to, just you know,
check it out to see, Okay, are they going to
be a problem, are they going to be aggressive? I
just gave this advice to a homeowner here in Cincinnati
(35:38):
just this past week, and it's I just described exactly
what the situation was. Nest only about three feet from
the from the back porch or the back door, which
has a back porch, and they do use the back porch,
so it wasn't like, you know, they hadn't used it
and all of a sudden he found this. So I said,
you know, next time that the she leaves the house
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that way, you know, just stop right at the at
the exit and look at that nest and see what's happening.
If they're paying no attention, you know, they're just flying
in and out, well that's a good sign. The other
thing to do, though, is to look at the entrance
hole because bold face hornets always have at least one,
sometimes two guards, and the guards will be the guards
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will be stationed looking out of the hole, so with
that white and black face, you can really see them,
and that's their job. They just you know, they're just
right there looking out of the hole and making sure
because you know, they're on guard duty, making sure nothing's
sneaking up on the nest. But can you can sort
of gauge just how concerned the hornets are going to
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be by very slowly, you know, moving towards the nest
and watching those guards. If you see all of a
sudden another head pop out, you know, another guard and
two or three pop out and they're looking at you. Now,
they will not just come streaming out. They'll pop out first.
They're checking you out. They're assessing whether you're a threat
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or not. And that also kind of gives you an
idea of how close you can get to the nest. Again,
I'm making sure everybody understands what I'm saying, don't do
this if you're allergic to them, and go slow and
just pay attention to what you're seeing. It's really to me,
it's a very interesting thing to see because you start
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picking up on their behavior. You know, last year I
gave this advice to a homeowner and he started inviting
friends over just to watch this hornet's nest, and they
started seeing things like the hornets were actually not just
they grind up caterpillars which we might call pass right
and bring that meat back to the well. They saw
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them actually bringing back some caterpillars, which I've never heard
of that and I must have just you know, ground
them up inside the nest. So again they are they
are predaceous. They have to feed their young meat, so
they have to go out and grind up, like I said, caterpillars,
which you know could be box tree malls, you know,
(38:16):
consuming box woods. Right there you go like that, which
I did a very quick segue, because man, you said
you had like ten in one day or.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Ten and just this week.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
No, it was yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
But you know what was interesting here a couple of
weeks ago I got I had a few, uh, and
it seemed like throughout the summer as I was getting
these reports of you know, what is this and then
like a small patch in one box wood one plane. Yeah, yeah,
uh nothing there. They looked, said, no caterpillars, nothing there,
but there was damages, just a six by six area.
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I thought was kind of interesting because that was all
the damage that they got and then there's nothing left there.
And then I was kind of like, well, I wonder if,
I mean, could could wasps have come in there and
cleared them out.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
You know on that last year I mean last right,
oh yeah, yeah, last year on the very the infestation
where it was discovered.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
It's just very quickly, what do we talk about?
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You know, tuning in box tree moth is a non
native that fees on boxwoods. Now, don't get excited, don't
go out and spray box woods and don't even yeah,
and also don't reject using box woods because okay, you're
hearing about this. It's it would only kill the box
woods if you totally ignored them, because you know, they
are very they're subject to insecticides. Uh, they're not hard
(39:44):
to kill. In fact, I'm going to be posting an
alert about this just so that people are you know,
are solid about what to do. But but it last year,
I and a bunch of others visited the original site
where they were first discovered in Ohio and and if
you recall on you're right, yellowjackets were the box woods
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were buzzing. Literally, I mean I'm not you could get
stand there and it's like, oh gosh, it's it's like being
near a beehive. Now I can't. I don't know if
you can get such heavy predation that you totally decimate
the the box treemonk caterpillars, I don't know, but you know,
in that case, we were amazed. And the funny side
(40:29):
note was, you know, I wanted to be taking pictures
and tracking these things, and this was in kind of
a this was in a park where they they weren't
going to do anything about it, which is you know,
a prerogative of anyone. And and so these yellow jackets were.
They were ruining my photo opportunity. That's it. And so
(40:51):
so it was kind of a funny thing. It's like, well,
I should be rooting them on, and and part of
me was, yeah, like the you know, this would be
the other part of it was like, oh no, wait
a second. You know, saved a few caterpillars. I can
take pictures. But it was a very heavy It was
a very heavy attack. By yellow jackets. And you know,
(41:11):
I once do just I tried to take pictures of it.
But I once watched yellow jackets come in and one
at a time remove redheaded pine sawflies from a mugo pine. Oops,
I take that back. I think they could have been
European pine saftwies. But nevertheless, the point being is one
(41:33):
or the other. But the point being is that they're major,
you know, they're considerable pets. You know, they you know,
consume the needles and and I tried to take pictures.
And it's funny because I was even thirty five millimeter film,
but you can't immediately look at right, none like today
when you can look at what you've taken a picture of.
And so these yellow jackets would come in and then
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they'd fly off, and I kept trying to take the
picture as they were starting to leave with the caterpillar,
and I got nothing. I mean, I suppose I always said,
you know, if you count the number of seftflies, you
see there's one less in each picture. And then there
was one picture it kind of just looked like a
floating saftfly. It just was out there kind of at
(42:15):
the upper part of the pictures. And you really couldn't
tell what was happening levitating softly. But I do believe
we underestimate the impact overall of bald faced hornets, paper
wasp and yellow jackets. They're all wasps. They're all grouped
together as wasps. But again, they feed their young meat.
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They're young cannot develop without that protein. And I don't
know if they would wipe out an entire population of
box tream off, but they wouldn't do them any good.
Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
It just seemed kind of weird because it was just
such a small area and they couldn't find any more
caterpillars and that was it. That was all that they got.
It's kind of like, what would have happened.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
It could have happened.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
You never know. In the world of insect you never know.
Buggy Joe Bogs. Always a pleasure of great information. We
will talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
You have a great week, Ron, take care and bye
bye you too.
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plant and bee pollinator friendly plants. Pamper your worms, get
the kids and dogs of all the Guardian by all means,
make it the best weekend of your life. See you.
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How is your garden growing?
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