John Gerardi Guest Hosts - Who Will Be the Next Pope?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're not actually going to take bets on who's going
to be the next head of the Catholic Church, but
we are going to talk about it here on the
Trevor Carey Show. I am not Trevor carry I am
John Girardi. I am filling in for Trevor. Those were
actual names of actual Roman Catholic cardinals. By the way, Yes,
there is a cardinal in the Catholic Church. He's actually

(00:20):
the Archbishop of Jerusalem, the head of the Roman Catholics
in Israel, named Pierre Battista Pizza Bala. Yes, he has
the most Italian name in history. Okay, and he's some
people think a real serious candidate. All right, So I
want to spend the first half of this hour and

(00:41):
again this is John Girardi. I'm the director Right Right
to Life of Central California RTLCC dot org. If you
want to learn more about us, I've got I'm also
an often writer at National Review. We're going to talk
about that. I'm not like a writer for National Review, like,
I don't have a job with them. I just write
things and then they publish them. So you can check

(01:05):
it out. Go to my Twitter account Twitter dot com,
slash Resido Johnny, and you can see one of my
pieces there. I think the first piece you'll look at
is free, so hopefully he's not behind the paywall. But anyway,
we'll talk about that later in the show. All right,
I want to talk about Pope Francis, his passing and
the upcoming papal election because I think it is interesting.

(01:28):
I think the Catholic Church is an interesting place. I
am a Catholic. I'm not going to pretend to be
the expert on all things Catholic. You know you're about
to hear the stupidest opinion you've ever heard in your
life when you hear someone very confidently.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Say, well, I went to twelve years of Catholic school,
but I think that whatever follows that is about to
be the stupidest opinion you've ever heard. I've went to
twelve years of Calic school. So you know, the Catholic
Church isn't necessarily antoio abortion. I actually heard that. That
was an actual real thing that I heard. It's not

(02:07):
oh oh no, the Catholic Church is not necessarily anti abortion.
It's just that literally every time it's ever discussed the
topic of abortion ever, at any point in its history,
over two thousand years, it's always said that it was
a seriously morally evil thing to do.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Anyway, So I want to begin by talking a bit
about the legacy of Pope Francis, and then you know
what direction things could go. And I might try, maybe
in the second segment to introduce you guys to some
of the cast of characters in the College of Cardinals,
the guys who might be the candidates to be the
next Pope. And then you guys might be like one
step ahead because you might have heard something on the

(02:41):
Trevor Carey Show with guest host John Girardi explaining it.
So let's talk about Pope Francis. I think the perception that,
trying to put myself in the shoes of the average
power talk listener, the average power talk listener, especially if
you're not Catholic, is Pope Francis is a big fat lib,

(03:04):
big time liberal. Don't like him. Not good, That's it.
I will note that Pope Francis is more conservative than
Donald Trump on the topics of abortion in vitro, fertilization, homosexuality, transgenderism,

(03:26):
what other topics, several others. Okay, so a little bit
Pope Francis gets sort of this perception that he's this
big time liberal. But that sentence I just that list
I gave you is indisputably true that he is more
conservative than Donald Trump on all of those topics. Okay,

(03:47):
so one thing, just kind of, you know, check yourself
a little bit before you say, oh, Pope France is
a big fat liberal. Yes, Pope Francis takes a much
more you know, to whatever extent, and his views on
immigration get clearly defined. He has seemed to take a
sort of default pro immigration position, and about a month

(04:12):
or so ago, a letter signed by him was issued
criticizing JD. Vance sort of specifically for some Advance's comments
about immigration in America, which I must say, given the
fact that he is now dead. Look, I'm not full

(04:33):
on conspiracy theorizing that you know, someone grabbed Pope Francis's
hand and traced you know, his signature on a piece
of paper that someone totally else wrote. I am one
hundred percent sure that someone else wrote it. Did they
show it to Pope Francis?

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Did he read it? Did he say yes to it? Probably?
You know, this is someone at the very end of
his life. Did he necessarily have the energy to really
intensively work and research and talk about it and get
the opinion of American vision. I kind of question that
personally now, pote Francis does leave a kind of complicated legacy.

(05:18):
A lot of the signal most notable interventions he made
out of, I think, a desire to have the church
be more welcoming to people whom he perceived to beyond
the peripheries, So people who were not living in ways
that were fully in accordance with the Catholic Church's ethical teachings,

(05:39):
people in same sex relationships, people who had been divorced
and civilly remarried. He issued different kinds of ethical documents
talking about them that did not sit well within the
broader body of Catholic ethical teaching. And I think one
of the problems with this is Francis came on the

(06:00):
heels of two giants, John Paul the Second and Benedict
the sixteenth. And I know we have this tendency of thinking, well,
whatever happened in my time in my era is the biggest, baddest,
most impressive thing. Well, John Paul the Second and BENEDICTA.
The sixteenth were genuine intellectual giants. I think between the

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two of them they wrote like eighty books. Okay, So,
John Paul the Second was pope from nineteen seventy eight
to two thousand and five. Benedict the sixteenth was a
collaborator worked alongside John Paul the Second, kind of almost
like a number two role in certain ways, not one
hundred percent so, but was one of John Paul the
Second's closest and most important collaborators for twenty five years

(06:52):
of John Paul's twenty eight year papacy, and then he
himself became pope from two thousand and five to twenty thirteen.
So these two men were giants, and between the two
of them they combated some of the most insidious developments

(07:14):
in ethical thinking that had been plaguing the West and
established the Catholic Church as a I mean, they didn't
establish it. I guess they reinforced the Catholic Church as
a pillar of ethical stability in the face of a
Western world that was fast losing faith in God and

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drifting away from any kind of traditional standards of morality.
John Paul the Second was a Titan in the areas
of moral theology and ethics. Benedict the sixteenth was a
systematic theologian or a dogmatic theologian, and these two men
were giants. Francis was not that at that kind of

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a level. I think even he would have frankly admitted
that he was not. As far as his intellectual achievements
his writing, he wasn't at the same level as jump
All the second or Benedict the sixteenth, and as a result,
some of his interventions in moral theology became muddled and

(08:22):
his sort of loose lipped, sort of off the cuff
style of talking, especially like the notorious thing was he
would give these interviews with this left wing Italian journalist
who didn't transcribe his interviews and just kind of wrote back.
He would ascribe as quotes to France's things that he

(08:43):
didn't like record the conversation. He was just kind of
trying to recall from memory what France has said, and
he would just put it in his newspaper as a quote,
and so people like Pope Francis said what, and the
Vatican be like, well, he didn't really do that. But
Francis seemed to kind of enjoy the chaos and the
attention didn't really tamp that stuff down. That much. He

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had this whole intervention in a sure document that was
talking about people who have divorced and civilly remarried. So,
within Catholic conception, marriage is permanent and lifelong. While civil
divorce may be necessary, especially if there's anything involving you know,
safety of the one of the two parties, or you know,
something like that, divorce is permitted, but the actual marriage

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bond is life long, and so getting civilly remarried following divorce,
the Catholic Church says, no, that's seriously wrong, unless you
have some declaration that for some reason your original marriage
was invalid, that it was not validly done, that someone
there was deceit involved in getting the marriage arranged or something,

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and you can have a declaration that your original marriage
was null and void, that it was not a real marriage.
Church doesn't allow people just to get divorced and remarried again.
And Pope Francis said, well, people like that can receive
the sort of seemed to imply in a footnote to
one document he wrote that maybe such persons could receive

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the Catholic sacrament of Holy Communion, which we believe is
the body and blood of Jesus Christ, and it introduced
this sort of confusion into well, what are you saying
ethically speaking in a way that just didn't sit very
squarely with people with prior church teaching, the entire universe
of church teaching on this subject prior. Similarly, a document

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was released under one of his subordinates, one of his
subordinates who is now despised, who has like no chance
of becoming a cardinal, Cardinal Fernandez, saying that the Church
would allow blessings for gay couples. Well, and they were
trying to say, no, no, no, we're not blessed in the Union.

(11:00):
We're just blessing these two people as individuals. But which
is like, well, if you're not changing anything, why are
you writing this document, what are you saying? The bishops
in Africa through a conniption fit fully justified a conniption
fit with which I one hundred percent agree, and basically

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they got Pope Francis to completely say, no, this doesn't change, No,
the Catholic Church hasn't changed your teaching in any respect
whatsoever when it comes to homosexuality or the ethics of
sexual interactions or blah blah blah blah, blah at all,
And a lot of that stuff he did was not liked,

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was not liked very well by priests, it was not
liked very well by bishops. It was not really you know,
and it also smacked. He had this sort of dichotomy
of on the one hand, he tried to promote this
concept called sinnidality. So it's the idea of having big
decisions of church governance be decided in things called synods,

(12:09):
where you would synd comes from the Greek word sin,
which means with and hodos, which means a road, traveling
on the road together. The idea of being, let's have
gatherings of the world's bishops so that everyone can talk
and everyone can collaborate, and we can make decisions together.
So he would have all these synods, but then he

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would just go off on his own and do something
that would anger lots of the world lots of the
world's bishops. So I think some of these big projects
of his papacy are not necessarily going to be looked
upon with the greatest, you know, approval. When I guess

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the history of Catholicism in the twenty first century is
eventually written, and a lot of that depends on who
this next pope is. If a next the next pope
comes in and is much more in the John Paul
the Second and Benedict the sixteenth way of thinking about things.
I think the Francis papacy will be looked at as
more of a blip than as a you know, seismic

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change in the nature or history of or development of
the Catholic Church.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
And so you know, there's a Latin expression de mortuis
nihil nisi bonum concerning the dead nothing but good. I'm
going to ascribe to Pot Francis the best motives I
can because I think for Catholics we do view the
pope as you know, the word pope in Latin is papa.

(13:49):
And the idea is that it's kind of like your father.
And I don't want to. I don't I would not
want to come on this radio show and gleefully talk
about you know, my dad was a real piece of crap.
You know what he did, They left the toilet set up. No,
I love my dad, and I dislike the attitude of

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certain Catholic commentators left and right just to treat the
pope as if he's Donald Trump or Joe Biden or
Kamala Harris, you know, just another political punching back. I'm
never going to do that. I again, if I'm ever
going to say anything, and nothing I'm saying about Pope
Francis is anything that you might not hear from even

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other bishops, you know who, if they're going to talk
candidly about it. So I am hopeful for the next papacy.
I don't think Pope Francis at his worst is as
bad as his worst critics worst critics make him out
to be. I don't know that his legacy is necessarily
going to be as seismic and world changing as his

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biggest devotee may say. Now when we return, who could
be the next Pope?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
This is the trebor carry show on the valleys, our talk.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Who's getting elected Pope? All right, we're not actually going
to play something, Betts. Apparently there was an old bit
of canon law that promised excommunication if you actually did
try to gamble on the outcome of the papal election.
Not sure if that's still in force yet for any
of you Catholics who may be listening. But I want
to go through a couple of these people, and I
think for those of you on either side of the

(15:31):
Tiber River, Catholics and non Catholics alike, might find some
of these little profiles I'm going to give interesting. So
I'm going to go through a couple of these names.
Fridoline Ambongo Bassungu, he is the Archbishop of Kinshasa in Congo.

(15:53):
I think he could be elected pope. I think he's
got a really good shot. Now you might think, okay,
guy from the Congos, what about this guy. He's a
very very smart man. I remember I mentioned earlier in
the show that one of Pope Francis's subordinates had issued

(16:14):
this teaching document trying to make some kind of claim
that well, maybe we can give a blessing to two
same sex persons who are in a relationship without blessing
the relationship. And it was this very poorly kind of
reasoned out or very difficult to suss out argument as

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to what it's saying, and how it was sort of
not readily apparent how this was at all consistent with
prior Catholic teaching on the subject. And Cardinal Umbungo jumped
in and said, not in Africa, you're not doing this.
He basically gathered all of the bishops from the whole

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continent and called Pope Francis and said we're going to
write a statement together and we're gonna like fix this.
And it was literally there's news reports it's him and
Francis on the phone like rewriting something, and that I
think he might have like even flown up from Congo

(17:16):
up to Rome to hash it out. So he showed
real leadership on that topic and got this like international
profile as a result, and is a real leader among
all of the bishops in Africa, and you know, represents

(17:37):
that there's less imbalance today than there was, you know,
thirty years ago, but there's still some imbalance that you have,
you know, more Italian cardinals than maybe their share of
the Catholic population would indicate, is necessary, more European cardinals
than maybe their share of the Catholic population would indicate.
Africa is the growing sector of the Catholic Church without question.

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So now I've seen some right wing people say if
the Catholic Church gets a Dei pope, if the Catholic
Church gets a black pope, that's it. I'm out, which
is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If anything, there
are several African cardinals who if they're elected pope, I
will be weeping tears of joy. So if any of

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you say something like that, just understand that you're completely
out of your element. You don't know what the hell
you're talking about, all right, speaking of African cardinals, Robert
Sarah now Roberts Sarah. It's spelled Sarah, but apparently you
say Sarah. He is from the country of Guinea, and
when he was an arch, when he was a bishop

(18:43):
down there in Guinea, the the communist leader of that
region where he was had basically a hit list of
people whom he wanted to assassinate, and Cardinals Sarah was
at the top of that list. Cardinal Sarrah then proceeded
to work in the Vatican for several years. He's very,
very conservative. He's a big devote of the older form

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of the Roman Catholic Mass, the older Mass in Latin,
which is very dear to my heart. Problem is, Cardinal
Surrah is seventy nine years old. It's a little old.
Everyone's best guess is that the cardinals are maybe gonna
opt for a pope who's around like kind of mid seventies.
You know, maybe seventy three, seventy four, seventy five, something

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like that, maybe early seventies. They don't necessarily want another
thirty year long John Paul the second kind of papacy.
John Paul the Second was elected Pope when he was
fifty eight or fifty nine years old, wound up serving
for twenty eight years. So they're not sure that. They're
not sure that they necessarily want that. But Cardinal Currah

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is pretty old. Pope Francis was seventy seven when he
was elected. Pope Benedict was seventy eight when he was elected.
So anyway, take that with a grain of salt. If
Cardinal Cardinals Surrah is like my favorite put in candidate.
If he gets elected, I will be literally crying. Luis
Antonio Tagel he's from the Philippines. He was thought he

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was in his fifties. Last time he was like the
wonder boy. When you're in your fifties, apparently you're a
boy in the Catholic Church, or you're thought of as
a whipper snapper. Anyway, among the College of Cardinals, he's
kind of flashy. He kind of lost favor under Pope Francis.
Pope France has had him in like a more important
job and then kind of demoted him where he was
overseeing a bunch of financial stuff, and then demoted him

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to a less important job. He's got a big media profile.
He used to be the Archbishop of Manila, so everyone
in the Philippines would just die of happiness if one
of their own got elected.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Pope.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Can't say I'm crazy for him. He's in his sixties
and not sure. He's American educated, went to God his
doctor at Catholic University of America. The stealth candidate that
I would now the aforementioned Pierre Battista Pizza Bala. Fantastic name.
First of all, the most Italian name in the history

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of the world. He is the art the patriarch as
they call him, of Jerusalem, so he's in charge of
all the Roman Catholics who kind of live in the
area of Israel. And he really stood out for basically,
after the October seventh attack, he genuinely offered to Hamas
to take him and exchange him for the Jewish hostages

(21:26):
that Hamas had taken. He genuinely made that offer, especially
for the kids who had been kidnapped, and that really
caught everyone's attention and sort of everyone's like, this is
a pretty smart guy in a pretty cool, pretty genuinely
holy guy. I'll end this segment just with this my
sort of stealth person that I would love to see.

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There are others who are more significant candidates, Mateo Zupi,
the Archbishop of Bologna, Pietro Paroline who's the papal secretary
of State. My favorite, though, is Cardinal Willem Eich from
Utrecht in the Netherlands, who is a former doctor. Well
he was a doctor. I guess he's still a doctor.
He was a doctor before he became a priest, and
he's a great medical ethicist and a really smart guy.

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Benedict the sixteenth kind of dude. I would love to
see him be elected, just I'm really interested in medical
ethics stuff and I think he'd be a great pick anyway.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
This is the Trevor carry Show on the Valley's Power talk.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
The Armenian Genocide, and one of the things I try
to do every year on April twenty fourth is talk
about it. And I've been covering a lot on John
Jrardis Show, sort of the geopolitical stuff of what's going
on between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Basically the ongoing struggle in

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which Azerbaijan just basically took the Nigorno Karabakh region. They
just said, now we're just going to take this from you,
and no one has bad it an eye. Basically Armenia's
I guess, too little, too insignificant, to unimportant country, unlike Ukraine,
where we have spent you know, we have spent billions

(23:12):
and billions and billions of dollars, and it's a huge
American political topic for some of the invasion of Ukraine
by Russia is a huge American political topic, the invasion
of Armenia by Azerbaijan. Every bit is bad, every bit
is well, maybe not every bit is bad, but I
think the scale and numbers of dead in the Ukraine

(23:33):
War is much greater. But every bit is unjust a
huge displacement of hundreds of thousands of people driven from
their homes, and it's the current day Azerbaijan Armenia war
is I think little more than a continuation of the

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ethnic and religiously motivated hatred and animosity that prompted the
Armenian genocide of the nineteen tens, in which over a
million Armenians, along with a million additional Greeks, Assyrians and
other Christian groups were killed by the Ottoman Empire. Thousands

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driven from their homes. There's this great piece that was
in National Review several years ago, written by Marlow safi Well.
Now her name is Marlow Slayback. She's about She was
a writer for National Review. She works for ISSI, the
Intercollegiate Studies Institute, and she wrote this beautiful piece about
the Armenian genocide. She and her family are from Syria originally.

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This is what she writes. She wrote this in April
of twenty nineteen. She says, the woman who raised my
grandmother was one of the victims of the Armenian genocide.
She made it further than Raka, the city in northeastern Syria,
not far from modern day Turkey, which had been at

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one point the home of the Isis Caliphate. She made
it farther than Raka, beginning in Ottoman Turkey and ending
in a village in Hams in Syria, where my great
great grandfather, an Orthodox priest, took her in as a refugee.
Her name was Yester, but my mother and her siblings
would call her by the Arabi's name Yaksha, or more

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simply as Sitae, which is the Arabic word for grandmother.
My uncle. She writes was ten years old when she
told him. When Yester told him why she'd fled to Syria.
She lived in a village in Turkey, heavily populated by
our Armenians, and her life changed in October of nineteen
fifteen when the Ottoman military raided the village where she

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was in her garden with her two children, aged two
and four. She managed to hide herself in the kids,
but from hiding she witnessed her husband get struck over
the head by the soldiers as they gathered all of
the men ages thirteen and up in the town square
to be publicly beheaded. She fled Turkey, running aimlessly and
eventually finding herself in Syria. Her relief was fleeting. The

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Ottomans captured her and her children in the Syrian desert
ordered her to renounce Christ and convert to Islam. When
she refused, they killed her two children and threw them
into the Euphrates River. Her only request before she died
in nineteen seventy one was that the cloth diaper she
had held onto as the Ottoman soldier ripped her child

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from her arms be buried with her. Hundreds of thousands
of Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians and Syriacs shared a similar faith,
forced to march through Raka and day or Zor, many
of them sold as slaves by Kurds and Bedouin Arabs,
or forced to seek safety with local strangers, both Muslim

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and Christian. The Euphrates River became a dumping site for
the bodies of those who didn't make it through, and
there were a lot of them. Between nineteen fourteen and
nineteen twenty three, the Ottomans killed the Turks. The Ottomans
killed one point five million Armenians and one million Greeks,
Assyrians Syriacs in an ethnic cleansing campaign motivated by their

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desire to de Christianize and Turkify the Empire. It is
considered the first genocide of the modern age, the one
that inspired the coining of the term, and yet its
recognition remains a thorny subject today, the kopious historical evidence
to the contrary. Notwithstanding, Turkey continues to deny that it

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was a genocide, that it was a genocide at all,
and they continue to threaten diplomatic and economic sanctions against
countries that would otherwise recognize it as such. Ronald Reagan,
she goes on to continue in the piece, Ronald Reagan
and actually Joe Biden are the only two people who

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actually ever, only two American presidents who actually referred to
the Armenian genocide as a genocide. And a lot of
this was because a lot of the reluctance of other
American presidents to refer to the genocide as a genocide
is because America had a military base in Turkey that

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was a very important staging ground for our military misadventures
in the Middle East. And it seems that by the
time the Biden administration came around and we were pulling
out of Afghanistan and our involvement in Iraq was decreasing,
the importance of that became less and less and less,

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and so Biden was willing to refer finally to the
Armenian genocide as a genocide, which is what it was,
and it's important to talk about to you know, we
talk about this so often in the context of like
the Holocaust. We the phrase is off news, you know,
never forget, never again, never again, never again.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
And.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
After October seventh, we were sort of like, Wow, maybe
there is enough hatred of Jewish people out there in
the world that something like the Holocaust could happen again.
The number of people who got killed obviously on that
one day on October seventh, was not nearly as much
as the number of people who got killed in the Holocaust,

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But that level of hatred is there, and saying never
again to that kind of racial or religious anemus, it's
not just sort of meaningless, sort of preening moralizing. And
in the case of Armenia and the Armenian genocide, it
is very much happening again. Not quite at the level of,

(29:49):
you know, a one point five million Armenians being murdered,
but the current day Armenian Azerbaijan conflict is yes, terrible.
You had hundreds of thousands of ethnic Armenians driven from
their homeland in the Nigrarno Karabak region by Azerbaijan purely

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just on the basis of Azerbaijan has a lot more
military might and they wanted it, and they just took it,
and that was it. Basically, there was this ongoing border
dispute that happened after the Soviet Union fell, the former
Soviet satellite country of Azerbaijan had included the Nigrano Karabak region,

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which was chiefly made up of ethnic Armenians. So when
the Soviet Union fell, the people in the Iguarna Karabak
were like, okay, great, we get to be part of
Armenia again. And the Azaris said no. They fought in
the nineties, it got resolved and basically, no, you're not

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taking the Gorna Krabak. It's going to be. It's sort
of a sort of a dependent, quasi independent country of
its own, but attached to Armenia. Well, during the twenty
twenty election, in the midst of COVID and the twenty
twenty election, Azerbaijan just decided, well, we're just gonna take it.

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And just for geography. Geography is important for this stuff.
Go to the Mediterranean Sea. Find Turkey. The east of
the Mediterranean Sea. One click east of Turkey is Armenia.
One click east of Armenia is Azerbaijan. So Armenia's got
the crappiest geography. Luck you can imagine, there's sandwich between

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two countries who hate their guts. The Turks hate them
the Azaris hate them. They hate them for religious reasons.
They're all sort of Turkish descent. The Armenians are not.
They're sort of separate racially, religiously. Armenia is surrounded by
Muslim neighbors. It's a bad situation when Iran is actually

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one of your better neighbors. Armenia has actually pretty good
relations with Iran, which borders them to the south, which
definitely indicates to you you're not in great shape when
Iran is one of your better neighbors. So there's sandwich
between Azerbaijan and Turkey, who are allied to one another
militarily in all kinds of ways. Turkey has I think

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Turkey has about forty million people. Azerbaijan has eight million people,
Armenia only has three million people. And the military strength
of those three countries roughly line up with their populations. Actually,
I think Turkey might have a larger population than that.
I think they might be more like eighty yeah, and

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Turkey's eighty five million, excuse me, not forty million. So
I think it's really important to remember this stuff, especially
given you know, how many of us from the how
many people in the San Joaquin Valley are of Armenian
descent and are here in California.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
This is the Trevor carry Show on The Valley's Power.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Talk talking about the Armenian genocide and talking a little
bit about the anti Semitic hatred that we are seeing
so much on American universities. So I saw this on Twitter,
another one of these videos at Yale, this time of
this pro Palestinian student group just blocking a roadway on

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campus to just not let a Jewish student go past.
And it astonishes me how like Yale, how any of
these schools are so stupid to just keep allowing this
to happen. Because of the legal implications, all right, there
are all these federal civil rights laws on the books

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that make it very clear and were designed for situations
very analogous to this, that if students are feeling hindered
from participating in the basics of student life on account
of some protected category i e. Race, religion, etc. And you,

(34:25):
as a school allow it, you're violating federal civil rights law.
And those laws were crafted so that if a black
student wanted to go to Ole Miss and wanted to
walk around on campus, he wouldn't have some group of
rednecks intimidate him and threaten him and say you're not
allowed to walk on this part of campus. If ole

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Miss just turns a blind eye to that, the Federals
can come and say, hey, ole Miss, you're violating federal
civil rights law. It's no different. And by the way,
if you're going to be in receipt of federal funding,
which Yale has plenty of federal funding going to it
out the ying out the wazoo, you have to abide
by federal civil rights law.

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