January 29, 2025 • 15 mins
Original Air Date: January 26, 2025
Susan Cowsill of The Cowsills is still making music some 50 years after her family inspired “The Partridge Family”.
Susan Cowsill of The Cowsills is still making music some 50 years after her family inspired “The Partridge Family”.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Sunstein Sessions on iHeartRadio, conversations about issues that matter.
Here's your host, three time Grasie Award winner, Shelley Sunstein.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good morning, and I want to introduce you to the
one and only Susan Calcil. Yes, from the Calcils. Yes,
it's me, it's her. She is zooming from New Orleans.
And okay, so a lot of us grew up to
the Colcils. And you know, they were first known for
(00:34):
the Rain, the park and other things, also Indian Lake
and hare and they and their story inspired the Partridge
Family for those.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Who don't know. Yes, yes, yes, so.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
All right, Well, first of all, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
What have you been doing? Catch us up?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I'm fabulous. I'm fabulous. I have been doing a lot
of work, although we had holidays so a little time off,
but as soon.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
As they were over, we're off and running.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I just got off a cruise, a working cruise, very clear, right,
and just got home to New Orleans and getting ready
for Marty Grass down here and living my life, living
the best life. The Councils are working their petuities off,
which is a very good thing in twenty twenty five,
and stay happy Camper doing well. Very grateful for the
(01:30):
life we have.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So the Cowcile's last album was Rhythm of the World
in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Tell us about this man album.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, being that we are musicians and artists.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
My brothers and I are on a summer.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Tour every year, Happy Together Tour with the Turtles and
a myriad of sixties classic rock bands. And while we
were out on one particular that particular summer, we just
started writing songs. The three of us, Bob, Paul, and
Susan had songs together and it just started happening. And
(02:11):
when you're an artist, or when you're a musician or
an entertainer, if you create a product, you tend to
want to put it down somewhere. So we made a
new album and that is the reason why we did it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's all we know how to do exactly and you're
still doing. But take us back back in the day.
The Council started in nineteen sixty five. You actually joined
your brothers in nineteen sixty eight. But tell us how
this all came about, because this was quite the phenomenon
(02:47):
it was, and you.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Know, the more that time goes on and I see
the industry today I realized just what a phenomenon it will. Basically,
I explained it is that my two oldest brothers were
naturally inclined toward music. My dad had bought a guitar
for them in Spain, brought it home. He was a
Navy officer, brought it home. They started harmonizing. The guys
(03:10):
were naturals at it, and it just kind of morphed
from there. And so the two boys, two acoustic guitars,
see the Beatles on at Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
One day, they.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Look around their house and they see other people sitting
around with no instruments in their hands, and they basically
just naturally organically came together with the four boys, Bob, Bill, John,
and Barry, and they started playing like rock. My dad
and actually my cousin, he bought all the equipment for
(03:43):
the guys and they started playing and they were phenomenal.
And so my dad basically said, if you guys are serious.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I'll do what I can.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
He started bringing tapes to New York and eventually he
got somebody's ear.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Now, my mother was promptly placed.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
In the band somewhere around nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I don't really know how or why.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It was somebody's idea, and I swear to God none
of the guys can even answer whose idea it was.
But that idea changed the course of history because putting
my mom in the band, there was never a family band,
a family rock band at all. The Osmond's only band
on The Andy Williams Show, but they were not rock
(04:29):
at all. Came a rock band after us, which was awesome.
So really we are an organically formed just kind of
created by our own selves a phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
How old were you when you joined the Cowcls the band?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I was eight? To your family, I was eight years old.
I got in the band just in time to be on.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
The Ed Sullivan Show for the first time with them,
which was very exciting, needless to say.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Were you terrified?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What was going through your mind?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Here you are on ash No now what people you know?
What younger people don't understand is that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
There everyone watched the Ed Sullivan Show on Sunday night.
This wasn't just a little show. Everyone watched the show.
But you weren't scared?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Were you thinking?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I was thinking how fun this was because I had
remembered the night in sixty four when we were all
watching the Beatles, and I remember, honestly, I remember my
brother's getting so excited, but not for the same reason
that everybody else was. But I think it's when they
really realized, why not we.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Sound pretty good? Why can't we do this too? You know?
And so on the Sullivan Show, I was just like, Wow,
they they made it, you know. I think I always
kind of thought of me being in the band.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
It's just kind of like everything else I did with
the family, which was tag along, I was just like,
what are we doing, you know what I mean? And
whatever they were doing, I want if they're on.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
The TV show, I wanted to be on it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
But more point about Ed Sullivan and the time that
we came up in What I don't sans understands is
that only Giant One Entertainment show in back have several
so you kind of if you got on at Sullivan,
the nation kind of had to see you because that
(06:32):
was the show they were going to watch Sunday night,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean, right right right? I was liking with Susan Calcil,
Yes from the Cowsills. She was eight years old when
she joined her brothers and mom in the Cowsills. Their
first hit was the Rain in the Park and other things. Also,
Indian Lake tell us about Hair. Now, Hair was on
(06:57):
Broadway at the time, but you're the group that made
the song famous.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Right, correct? So how that went was this. We were
approached by Oh God, what's his name? Oh yeah, good job.
I was gonna say Rob, and I knew that wasn't right.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
No, he's sad his dad. I'm like Rob.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Carl Reiner approached us to do a television show called
The Wonderful World of Pizzazz, and he thought it would
be rather funny because the musical, the Broadway musical Hair
was out at time, so he thought it would be
fun wholesome. Cowco Family Band sang one of the songs
from the rather controversial Broadway show Hair. He suggested Hair
(07:49):
that song. My brothers and I went into this and
recorded it for the television show, not to be a
record on the radio.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We recorded it for the TV show.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
We filmed the television show which has that wonderful video
now that you know we all know and love with
us hippies doing Hair came out so well that my
brothers tried to convince MGM to let it be our
next single, which they absolutely said no, we're going to
do it, not doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's not that was fun.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
You guys enjoyed it, but that over and we were
in Chicago on a tour I think it was for
Indian Lake, and my brothers had a demo of this
song and they played it for w what has the
big station in Chicago LS. The talk is basically said, look,
(08:47):
if you guys can figure out who this band is,
you'll win a trip to somewhere. And the whichboard lit
up and that's drove train to number one. Because we
MGM had to put it out. It was mandatory, so
fun good one for the boys.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like I said earlier, the Cowsles the real life family
hippie rockers, feel good feel good music. Feel good rock
inspired the very popular TV show The Partuit Family.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
What was your reaction to that, well, glad, you asked Shelly.
It was interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I mean, we knew that they wanted to make a
TV show about us, and they actually came out to
stay with us at our home in Santa Monica for
about a week.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The people, I think, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I think it was I did at that time that
no longer fit the show that they wrote about our family,
and they and that we weren't actors were going to
be good actors or actresses. However, they did make an
exception to asking if myself and my brother Barry in
(10:10):
the show, because I guess we were the most potentially acting.
I don't know, but my dad he said no to
all of it. And they were also going to be
having Shirley Jay our mother, and that was from the
very beginning.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
They did not want my mom.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
It really wasn't a natural on stage anyway. She was
a beautiful singer, but she was very nervous of her
so we didn't get the They made the show, and
quite honestly, Shelly, we firmly believe we cow Sills that
without Partridge family, we don't know that our lineage would
have been so.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Bright in the minds of so many years later.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
We feel that the Partridge family really elongated our careers
and make them what they are today. Of our Partridge family,
they're good, good, good. We've met most of them.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And Shirley's life a mom And what was it like
watching Susan day as you and it could have been you?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, here's the thing weird thing about that, So at
that time on stage I the little girl with the
tambourine that they have in the Partrish family is supposed
to be, but they had a girl on keyboard. See,
they had mess up the story a little bit, Shelley
in order for the legalities to work, so they put
two girls in the band instead of just one, which
(11:28):
is me with the mom. So everybody was confused as
to who I was. Was I the Susan Day girl
or was I the little redhead. So my brother Paul,
who at the time was playing keyboards in the family band,
basically said that he.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Was Susan Day. Okay, yeah, I didn't even get to
be here.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I mean that just had to be so into wane. Now,
what's really interesting is when times are tough, and we
are in very peculiar times right now, the.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Music of your youth, the music you.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Had growing up, that becomes this complete source of comfort.
So going back and listening to your music is like
mental health therapy.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That makes me very happy.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And I agree with you because I listened to the
sixties music for the same thing. Not necessarily my own,
but you know, a good Spanky and our gang and
a good Tommy Jane and a good Lulu. This makes
me feel much better, so you point thank God for
that music.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
What were the highlights of those years for you or
was life better after for you?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Susan Cowson, That's a really great question. Show highlight me
because I was a little kid. It was all the
fun places that we went that provided pools, fighting boats.
I mean, you know, we were kids, so highlights to
(13:16):
when we would stay at great resorts in far off
places and have downtime where we were actually just being kids.
I enjoyed being on the stage, Please don't get hung
I loved it up there.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
But highlights for.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Me were excursions to Caribbean and Barbados and you know,
fabulous places and it just was exciting, you know. But
when we first moved from Rhode Island to Manhattan, I
wanted to go home.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I didn't like the big city.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I didn't like all of that action and I still don't.
But being in this band for those five years, which
I think, but the run of success was was very exciting.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Do somehow.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I was very young, but I knew it was magical
and special and that not it's to do this, So
I don't know, it was really all a highlight. Life
is multifaceted.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And it has all kinds of layers.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Active, playing on stage and traveling and experiencing the world
was phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But what about life after the cow Sils fame? Like
we said, the cow Siles are still around. You can
check out their latest album, Rhythm of the World from.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But what was life? We only have like a minute left.
So your life post fame.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Okay, post fame was slightly difficult, but certainly it was fun.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I left home early. I was an emancipated minor.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I got a record deal with Warner Brothers in nineteen
seventy four, engles deal with those guys never stopped making music.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I have made my way.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Successfully and I have paved a life that makes my
heart happy.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We all have. We're really content human being born.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Happy kids, and it's really hard to knock down a
happy So life afterwards was a challenge, but it was
an adventure and a joy and it has brought me
today talking to you, Shelly, so I cannot complain.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, you made my day, Susan Calsil, and thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I really appreciate it. Oh me too.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You've been listening to Sunstein sessions on iHeartRadio, a production
of New York's classic rock Q one O four point
three
Welcome to Sunstein Sessions on iHeartRadio, conversations about issues that matter.
Here's your host, three time Grasie Award winner, Shelley Sunstein.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Good morning, and I want to introduce you to the
one and only Susan Calcil. Yes, from the Calcils. Yes,
it's me, it's her. She is zooming from New Orleans.
And okay, so a lot of us grew up to
the Colcils. And you know, they were first known for
(00:34):
the Rain, the park and other things, also Indian Lake
and hare and they and their story inspired the Partridge
Family for those.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Who don't know. Yes, yes, yes, so.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
All right, Well, first of all, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
What have you been doing? Catch us up?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I'm fabulous. I'm fabulous. I have been doing a lot
of work, although we had holidays so a little time off,
but as soon.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
As they were over, we're off and running.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I just got off a cruise, a working cruise, very clear, right,
and just got home to New Orleans and getting ready
for Marty Grass down here and living my life, living
the best life. The Councils are working their petuities off,
which is a very good thing in twenty twenty five,
and stay happy Camper doing well. Very grateful for the
(01:30):
life we have.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So the Cowcile's last album was Rhythm of the World
in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Tell us about this man album.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, being that we are musicians and artists.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
My brothers and I are on a summer.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Tour every year, Happy Together Tour with the Turtles and
a myriad of sixties classic rock bands. And while we
were out on one particular that particular summer, we just
started writing songs. The three of us, Bob, Paul, and
Susan had songs together and it just started happening. And
(02:11):
when you're an artist, or when you're a musician or
an entertainer, if you create a product, you tend to
want to put it down somewhere. So we made a
new album and that is the reason why we did it.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It's all we know how to do exactly and you're
still doing. But take us back back in the day.
The Council started in nineteen sixty five. You actually joined
your brothers in nineteen sixty eight. But tell us how
this all came about, because this was quite the phenomenon
(02:47):
it was, and you.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Know, the more that time goes on and I see
the industry today I realized just what a phenomenon it will. Basically,
I explained it is that my two oldest brothers were
naturally inclined toward music. My dad had bought a guitar
for them in Spain, brought it home. He was a
Navy officer, brought it home. They started harmonizing. The guys
(03:10):
were naturals at it, and it just kind of morphed
from there. And so the two boys, two acoustic guitars,
see the Beatles on at Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
One day, they.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Look around their house and they see other people sitting
around with no instruments in their hands, and they basically
just naturally organically came together with the four boys, Bob, Bill, John,
and Barry, and they started playing like rock. My dad
and actually my cousin, he bought all the equipment for
(03:43):
the guys and they started playing and they were phenomenal.
And so my dad basically said, if you guys are serious.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I'll do what I can.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
He started bringing tapes to New York and eventually he
got somebody's ear.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Now, my mother was promptly placed.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
In the band somewhere around nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I don't really know how or why.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It was somebody's idea, and I swear to God none
of the guys can even answer whose idea it was.
But that idea changed the course of history because putting
my mom in the band, there was never a family band,
a family rock band at all. The Osmond's only band
on The Andy Williams Show, but they were not rock
(04:29):
at all. Came a rock band after us, which was awesome.
So really we are an organically formed just kind of
created by our own selves a phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
How old were you when you joined the Cowcls the band?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I was eight? To your family, I was eight years old.
I got in the band just in time to be on.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
The Ed Sullivan Show for the first time with them,
which was very exciting, needless to say.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Were you terrified?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
What was going through your mind?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Here you are on ash No now what people you know?
What younger people don't understand is that.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
There everyone watched the Ed Sullivan Show on Sunday night.
This wasn't just a little show. Everyone watched the show.
But you weren't scared?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Were you thinking?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I was thinking how fun this was because I had
remembered the night in sixty four when we were all
watching the Beatles, and I remember, honestly, I remember my
brother's getting so excited, but not for the same reason
that everybody else was. But I think it's when they
really realized, why not we.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Sound pretty good? Why can't we do this too? You know?
And so on the Sullivan Show, I was just like, Wow,
they they made it, you know. I think I always
kind of thought of me being in the band.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
It's just kind of like everything else I did with
the family, which was tag along, I was just like,
what are we doing, you know what I mean? And
whatever they were doing, I want if they're on.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
The TV show, I wanted to be on it.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
But more point about Ed Sullivan and the time that
we came up in What I don't sans understands is
that only Giant One Entertainment show in back have several
so you kind of if you got on at Sullivan,
the nation kind of had to see you because that
(06:32):
was the show they were going to watch Sunday night,
you know what.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean, right right right? I was liking with Susan Calcil,
Yes from the Cowsills. She was eight years old when
she joined her brothers and mom in the Cowsills. Their
first hit was the Rain in the Park and other things. Also,
Indian Lake tell us about Hair. Now, Hair was on
(06:57):
Broadway at the time, but you're the group that made
the song famous.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Right, correct? So how that went was this. We were
approached by Oh God, what's his name? Oh yeah, good job.
I was gonna say Rob, and I knew that wasn't right.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
No, he's sad his dad. I'm like Rob.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Carl Reiner approached us to do a television show called
The Wonderful World of Pizzazz, and he thought it would
be rather funny because the musical, the Broadway musical Hair
was out at time, so he thought it would be
fun wholesome. Cowco Family Band sang one of the songs
from the rather controversial Broadway show Hair. He suggested Hair
(07:49):
that song. My brothers and I went into this and
recorded it for the television show, not to be a
record on the radio.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
We recorded it for the TV show.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
We filmed the television show which has that wonderful video
now that you know we all know and love with
us hippies doing Hair came out so well that my
brothers tried to convince MGM to let it be our
next single, which they absolutely said no, we're going to
do it, not doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's not that was fun.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
You guys enjoyed it, but that over and we were
in Chicago on a tour I think it was for
Indian Lake, and my brothers had a demo of this
song and they played it for w what has the
big station in Chicago LS. The talk is basically said, look,
(08:47):
if you guys can figure out who this band is,
you'll win a trip to somewhere. And the whichboard lit
up and that's drove train to number one. Because we
MGM had to put it out. It was mandatory, so
fun good one for the boys.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like I said earlier, the Cowsles the real life family
hippie rockers, feel good feel good music. Feel good rock
inspired the very popular TV show The Partuit Family.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
What was your reaction to that, well, glad, you asked Shelly.
It was interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I mean, we knew that they wanted to make a
TV show about us, and they actually came out to
stay with us at our home in Santa Monica for
about a week.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The people, I think, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I think it was I did at that time that
no longer fit the show that they wrote about our family,
and they and that we weren't actors were going to
be good actors or actresses. However, they did make an
exception to asking if myself and my brother Barry in
(10:10):
the show, because I guess we were the most potentially acting.
I don't know, but my dad he said no to
all of it. And they were also going to be
having Shirley Jay our mother, and that was from the
very beginning.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
They did not want my mom.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
It really wasn't a natural on stage anyway. She was
a beautiful singer, but she was very nervous of her
so we didn't get the They made the show, and
quite honestly, Shelly, we firmly believe we cow Sills that
without Partridge family, we don't know that our lineage would
have been so.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Bright in the minds of so many years later.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
We feel that the Partridge family really elongated our careers
and make them what they are today. Of our Partridge family,
they're good, good, good. We've met most of them.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
And Shirley's life a mom And what was it like
watching Susan day as you and it could have been you?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, here's the thing weird thing about that, So at
that time on stage I the little girl with the
tambourine that they have in the Partrish family is supposed
to be, but they had a girl on keyboard. See,
they had mess up the story a little bit, Shelley
in order for the legalities to work, so they put
two girls in the band instead of just one, which
(11:28):
is me with the mom. So everybody was confused as
to who I was. Was I the Susan Day girl
or was I the little redhead. So my brother Paul,
who at the time was playing keyboards in the family band,
basically said that he.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Was Susan Day. Okay, yeah, I didn't even get to
be here.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I mean that just had to be so into wane. Now,
what's really interesting is when times are tough, and we
are in very peculiar times right now, the.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Music of your youth, the music you.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Had growing up, that becomes this complete source of comfort.
So going back and listening to your music is like
mental health therapy.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That makes me very happy.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And I agree with you because I listened to the
sixties music for the same thing. Not necessarily my own,
but you know, a good Spanky and our gang and
a good Tommy Jane and a good Lulu. This makes
me feel much better, so you point thank God for
that music.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
What were the highlights of those years for you or
was life better after for you?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Susan Cowson, That's a really great question. Show highlight me
because I was a little kid. It was all the
fun places that we went that provided pools, fighting boats.
I mean, you know, we were kids, so highlights to
(13:16):
when we would stay at great resorts in far off
places and have downtime where we were actually just being kids.
I enjoyed being on the stage, Please don't get hung
I loved it up there.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
But highlights for.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Me were excursions to Caribbean and Barbados and you know,
fabulous places and it just was exciting, you know. But
when we first moved from Rhode Island to Manhattan, I
wanted to go home.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I didn't like the big city.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
I didn't like all of that action and I still don't.
But being in this band for those five years, which
I think, but the run of success was was very exciting.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Do somehow.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
I was very young, but I knew it was magical
and special and that not it's to do this, So
I don't know, it was really all a highlight. Life
is multifaceted.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And it has all kinds of layers.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Active, playing on stage and traveling and experiencing the world
was phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But what about life after the cow Sils fame? Like
we said, the cow Siles are still around. You can
check out their latest album, Rhythm of the World from.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But what was life? We only have like a minute left.
So your life post fame.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Okay, post fame was slightly difficult, but certainly it was fun.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I left home early. I was an emancipated minor.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I got a record deal with Warner Brothers in nineteen
seventy four, engles deal with those guys never stopped making music.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I have made my way.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Successfully and I have paved a life that makes my
heart happy.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We all have. We're really content human being born.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Happy kids, and it's really hard to knock down a
happy So life afterwards was a challenge, but it was
an adventure and a joy and it has brought me
today talking to you, Shelly, so I cannot complain.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, you made my day, Susan Calsil, and thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I really appreciate it. Oh me too.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You've been listening to Sunstein sessions on iHeartRadio, a production
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