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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am so pleased to welcome back to the show.
Brad Taylor out with his nineteenth Pike Logan novel. I've
read it already, although I don't think actual publication day.
Release day is for a few more days on the
twenty second, but you can order it now. It's called
Into the Gray Zone and it's a very interesting novel.
The plot is fascinating at a time where well this
(00:21):
happens a lot with Brad's novels. The plot is really
crazy and then you think, wait a minute, is it
maybe that kind of thing could actually happen. Brad is
also a retired US Army lieutenant Special Forces lieutenant colonel.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, Brad, good to see you, Thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Good to see you too, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All right, yeah, glad to do it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And we're Mandy and I are well, you don't know Mandy,
but Mandy and I are sitting in winter Park at
the Mighty Millions show home.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And that's why I look a little. I got a
different background than I usually do.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So hey, I want to ask you one question that's
not on your not about the book, and then I
want to get to the book we saw this morning.
I think he came out this morning some comments from
the Secretary of State Marco Rubio that the.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
President seems a little frustrated with.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The pace of trying to end the Ukraine Russia war
and that if there isn't some progress soon, Trump might
just walk away whatever that means. And I know you've
you've spent a little time talking in public your thoughts
about this war and American role and what it should
be in wire it matters and all that, and I
wonder if you would just give us a little commentary
on it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, I think that I heard that too, And honestly,
I think that's just a way of putting pressure on
both parties. I don't think they're actually gonna walk away.
I think that's a way of saying, I'm kind of
sick of dealing with this.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
One of you.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Get both of you guys need to step up to
plate here. Some of you's got to do because right
now that both were Kyle Centran. You know, we're getting
the mineral deal through Zelensky, and that's good for us,
but Zelensky's not willing to concede all the stuff that Putin,
I mean Putin's basically saying get me the.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Whole bag or off.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
And so I think it's a way to put pressure
on him to say, look, you guys, obviously you both
have a starting point.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Let's start negotiating.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, and it could be a negotiating thing.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I continue to believe the way that Trump is approaching
this is putting all the pressure on the wrong person,
which doesn't mean that Ukraine should have no pressure, but
not all the pressure.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Maybe Trump is playing forty chests like his supporters, thinking
it'll all work out just fine.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I hope.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well, I mean, you know, well what he's doing one day.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I mean he could get tired of it in three
days and say, well, I said I was gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
See you later. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Indeed, all right, let's talk about the book a little bit.
And again, folks, the book is called Into the Gray
Zone and it's a really really fun thriller, the nineteenth
Pike Logan novel. Brad has sold somewhat close to four
million books already. And let's see, I'm just doing the
math here, Brad, So you saw it. So let's just
say four million books and you earn a thousand dollars
(02:59):
a book, So you've got four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Now is that right? Did I do them? I know
it's a personal question, but is that about right?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
If that math was right, yes, that would be correct.
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So you don't get one thousand dollars for every book
that you sell.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's not how the book business works.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It depends on I mean, it's it's multi tiered over
you know, whether it's ebooks, whether it's time it comes out,
whether it's paperback, whether it's a hardback, they're all different.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
All right, you're treating my question much too seriously.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So in this new novel, it's it's fascinating because it's
not that far from something I could actually believe about
China's intentions against Taiwan and.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
As part of that story against the US.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And maybe before we get into the nuts and bolts
of the plot, and I don't want to give away
too much, but you know, why did you decide to
make this the the theme?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Actually the idea came from me, like a lot of
book ideas come to me, just from a news story.
Last year there was a dry by shooting in Canada
where a Sikh guy was killed, real popular guy, a
Seakh guy, was.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Killed, just a random murder.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
The largest aspora of Sikhs are in Canada, and didn't
make a lot of news. And then about a month later,
the Canadian government came out and said, hey, Prime Minister
Modi and the RAW, the Researcher Analysis Wing, which is
their version of CIA, they came over here to Canada
and assassinated this guy. And I was like, what that
makes absolutely no sense, but I knew that Canada wasn't
going to say that unless they had some serious evidence
(04:35):
of this going on. Well then two months later, we
arrested a guy and said that, hey, this guy is
trying to kill a Sikh inside the United States and
the government India sent him over here to get assassinated.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And I was like, holy moly, something's going on here.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
As a matter of fact, the FBI just today arrested
a guy in Sacramento who's a Sek who's running around
trying to kill people. And so I started doing the
research on that, saying, Okay, there's got to be a
story here, and that's what started it. And as I
started looking into, you know, the plot lines I was
going to go with Pakistan, I was like, I'm sick
of writing about led and humas and all that, I'm
not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And they found an.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Enormous reservoir of rare earth elements, which my publisher was
saying that, you know, that's not very sexy. I was like,
trust me, it's going to be sexy. Well, sure enough,
it's sexy now because everybody's.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Talking about them.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So they've got a huge in the real world, there's
a large depositive earth elements found in India and the
fictional world. We're also in the real world, China has
an eighty percent monopoly on rare element extraction and refinement
and they want to keep that monopoly and we want
to break it. So fictional world, we're going to help
India to extract this for earth elements covertly, and China
(05:44):
finds out about it and they're trying to break it covertly,
which is all hybrid warfare inside the gray zone of
warfare between peace and war.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And that's pretty much where the book came from.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I will note to listeners, I don't think I
mentioned this on the show a few days ago eve
though I probably should have. But when when the you know,
the volume of the rhetoric got really cranked up a
few days ago between the US and China. One of
the things that China announced is they're going to stop
exporting some of these rare earth minerals to to the
United States. So this is this is a very serious
(06:16):
pressure point for the United States and we need to
get these things wherever they are. And I will also
note to listeners this is sort of a nerdy point.
Rare earth minerals are mostly not very rare, but they
occur in fairly low concentrations, you know, in any given
pound of rock or pound of ore, so you know,
you need a big area with billions of tons of ore.
(06:37):
And there are some of these, but it's a it's
a massive mining job and then a massive processing job.
And because of all of our environmental environmental regulations that
we have, it it makes it uneconomic to try to
do these things in the United States.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We may have some a big deposit in.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Wyoming even But anyway, back so so back to Brad's story.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Now, actually, before we get to the plot, you've used.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
The term now in our conversation also for the title
of the book, Into the gray Zone.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What's the gray zone?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
The gray zone is kind of a it's a national
defense nomenclature nickname for hybrid warfare, basically anything from absolute
peace to trigger pulling war, a gray zone, using the
Ukraine as example. Grey zone would be in twenty fourteen
when Putin sent his little green men in and said
it was a spontaneous uprising and that this was all
(07:30):
done internally. It's not part of Russia. Well, it was
definitely part of Russia. That's gray zone. He's got plausib deniability.
The China Belton Road initiative where they're doing basically it's
a loan sharking operation. They go on and say, I'll
loan you this money for this diamond mind and if
you can't pay me back, I'm taking a diamond mine.
Rare earth elements are part of the gray zone warfare.
It goes on the sharp end of the spear. You've
(07:52):
got people getting you know, I Ran. It's got proxies
all over the place. We all know now Hamas Huthi's
Hesba Lah. They do things on behalf of Ran, but
the brand's got plausible deniability of it occurring. That's all
gray zone warfare. So it can go from the benign
to you know, Russia, bot forums doing disinformation in America.
That's greyzone warfare, but a little risk all the way
to you know, Hamas slaughtering a bunch of innocence on
(08:16):
behalf of Iran.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So again I don't want to give away much because
listeners should just go by into the gray zone and
read it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, you can order it today and it'll be delivered
next week.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
But part of the plot here is that the the
government of China wants to stop the development of this
rare earth mine, and in order to do that, they
need to.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Hurt the US.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And in order to be able to hurt the US,
they feel like they need the US focused somewhere else
or focused on a particular thing.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So really they have kind of I'll use a bad analogy.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You know. You hear these terrorist attacks where the terrorisole
set off a bomb and then they'll wait for first responders, police,
fire whoever to show up, and then they'll set off
another bomb right there to kill them. And and in
a way, it seems like what you've laid out here
would be a similar kind of tactical approach by the Chinese.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, in this case, the Chinese, if they've hired some
guys to basically eliminate the billionaire who's willing to do
the mining, and the people they've hired, unbeknownst to them,
have actually have their own agenda. So they're going to
take Chinese money and do what they say they're going
to do, and then do something completely different until they're
(09:35):
off the rails doing their own thing as part of
the Gray Waring. They have their own issues, their own motivations,
and neither Now China is like, what have we let loose?
Because that's going to make us look bad if these
guys go nuts and we of course, as in the
book itself, Mike Logan's trying to figure out what in
the world's going on here. Something is more than just
you know, it's not just terrorists. They're trying to blame
(09:57):
it on straight up terrorism, but suspected something more.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Pike Logan doesn't age very much. Do you think Pike
Logan will ever retire?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
That's actually when I first started writing, I was like,
you know, I didn't know i'd have one book published,
much less nineteen and early on I asked a buddy
of mine, Robert Crace, is a well known writer as well.
His guy Elvis Cole when he first started writing, was
a Vietnam vet, and you know now he'd be running
around in a wheelchair. And I said, how do you
How'd you get around this with a series? And he said,
(10:29):
Elvis Cole's Superman. He never ages, And I said, that's
what I'm doing. So administrations will change, people will leave,
come and go in the books in the Pike Logan universe,
but he's aging for every year I age.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
He ages a minute, yeah, which is which is an
interesting thing. Not every author does it that way, but
you always know what you're gonna get with Pike Logan.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh so very quickly, just about out of time? Are
you one to the next book yet? I am.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I just got back from Argentina doing on ground research
in Argentina, and and what spike that was? It turns
out that Triborder region Argentina and Brazil and Paraguay has
the largest concentration of Hesbelah outside of Lebanon.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What really? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, there's actually more Lebanese if you count the descendants.
There's more Lebanese in leven in Brazil than there are
in Lebanon.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Unbelievable. Wow, is anybody well, this is going to be
the plot of your fiction book. But in the real world,
is anybody paying attention to that? Is anybody trying to Yeah,
you know it give some high speed let for a
long time members. It's basically a fundraising element for him.
They do drug running, do crime, that kind of stuff,
especially when we put the sanctions on Iran, and Ran
(11:41):
couldn't fund Hesbela as much.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Well, they turned a crime to do it. And they've
got this diaspora down there in a triboard. The Triple
Frontier is just crime ridden and that's generally what they do,
although in ninety four they did blow up the Israeli
Mutual Aided Society down there in Argentina.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, and so just for listeners, I mean many of
you probably read Redtail the books already, but the plots,
including into the Gray Zone plot, is stuff that is
just barely fantastic. But what I mean by fantastic is,
you know, hard to believe. It's right on the edge.
(12:19):
And it's because he does so much research that the plot,
even though it's really kind of out there, you think,
you know, maybe that could happen.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And that's why the books are so much fun. Folks
go buy into the gray Zone.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It's actual release is four days from now, but you
can order it right now and you'll have a lot
of fun reading it. Brad, thanks so much for being
here as always, and of course thanks again for your
service to our country.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Thank you appreciate it, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
All right, Glad to do it all right. That's Brad Taylor.
I love it. I really enjoy his books a lot.
I am so pleased to welcome back to the show.
Brad Taylor out with his nineteenth Pike Logan novel. I've
read it already, although I don't think actual publication day.
Release day is for a few more days on the
twenty second, but you can order it now. It's called
Into the Gray Zone and it's a very interesting novel.
The plot is fascinating at a time where well this
(00:21):
happens a lot with Brad's novels. The plot is really
crazy and then you think, wait a minute, is it
maybe that kind of thing could actually happen. Brad is
also a retired US Army lieutenant Special Forces lieutenant colonel.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, Brad, good to see you, Thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Good to see you too, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All right, yeah, glad to do it.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And we're Mandy and I are well, you don't know Mandy,
but Mandy and I are sitting in winter Park at
the Mighty Millions show home.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
And that's why I look a little. I got a
different background than I usually do.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So hey, I want to ask you one question that's
not on your not about the book, and then I
want to get to the book we saw this morning.
I think he came out this morning some comments from
the Secretary of State Marco Rubio that the.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
President seems a little frustrated with.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The pace of trying to end the Ukraine Russia war
and that if there isn't some progress soon, Trump might
just walk away whatever that means. And I know you've
you've spent a little time talking in public your thoughts
about this war and American role and what it should
be in wire it matters and all that, and I
wonder if you would just give us a little commentary
on it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, I think that I heard that too, And honestly,
I think that's just a way of putting pressure on
both parties. I don't think they're actually gonna walk away.
I think that's a way of saying, I'm kind of
sick of dealing with this.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
One of you.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Get both of you guys need to step up to
plate here. Some of you's got to do because right
now that both were Kyle Centran. You know, we're getting
the mineral deal through Zelensky, and that's good for us,
but Zelensky's not willing to concede all the stuff that Putin,
I mean Putin's basically saying get me the.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Whole bag or off.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
And so I think it's a way to put pressure
on him to say, look, you guys, obviously you both
have a starting point.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Let's start negotiating.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, and it could be a negotiating thing.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I continue to believe the way that Trump is approaching
this is putting all the pressure on the wrong person,
which doesn't mean that Ukraine should have no pressure, but
not all the pressure.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But we'll see.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Maybe Trump is playing forty chests like his supporters, thinking
it'll all work out just fine.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I hope.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Well, I mean, you know, well what he's doing one day.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I mean he could get tired of it in three
days and say, well, I said I was gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
See you later. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Indeed, all right, let's talk about the book a little bit.
And again, folks, the book is called Into the Gray
Zone and it's a really really fun thriller, the nineteenth
Pike Logan novel. Brad has sold somewhat close to four
million books already. And let's see, I'm just doing the
math here, Brad, So you saw it. So let's just
say four million books and you earn a thousand dollars
(02:59):
a book, So you've got four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Now is that right? Did I do them? I know
it's a personal question, but is that about right?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
If that math was right, yes, that would be correct.
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So you don't get one thousand dollars for every book
that you sell.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
That's not how the book business works.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It depends on I mean, it's it's multi tiered over
you know, whether it's ebooks, whether it's time it comes out,
whether it's paperback, whether it's a hardback, they're all different.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
All right, you're treating my question much too seriously.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So in this new novel, it's it's fascinating because it's
not that far from something I could actually believe about
China's intentions against Taiwan and.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
As part of that story against the US.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And maybe before we get into the nuts and bolts
of the plot, and I don't want to give away
too much, but you know, why did you decide to
make this the the theme?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Actually the idea came from me, like a lot of
book ideas come to me, just from a news story.
Last year there was a dry by shooting in Canada
where a Sikh guy was killed, real popular guy, a
Seakh guy, was.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Killed, just a random murder.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
The largest aspora of Sikhs are in Canada, and didn't
make a lot of news. And then about a month later,
the Canadian government came out and said, hey, Prime Minister
Modi and the RAW, the Researcher Analysis Wing, which is
their version of CIA, they came over here to Canada
and assassinated this guy. And I was like, what that
makes absolutely no sense, but I knew that Canada wasn't
going to say that unless they had some serious evidence
(04:35):
of this going on. Well then two months later, we
arrested a guy and said that, hey, this guy is
trying to kill a Sikh inside the United States and
the government India sent him over here to get assassinated.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And I was like, holy moly, something's going on here.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
As a matter of fact, the FBI just today arrested
a guy in Sacramento who's a Sek who's running around
trying to kill people. And so I started doing the
research on that, saying, Okay, there's got to be a
story here, and that's what started it. And as I
started looking into, you know, the plot lines I was
going to go with Pakistan, I was like, I'm sick
of writing about led and humas and all that, I'm
not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And they found an.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Enormous reservoir of rare earth elements, which my publisher was
saying that, you know, that's not very sexy. I was like,
trust me, it's going to be sexy. Well, sure enough,
it's sexy now because everybody's.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Talking about them.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So they've got a huge in the real world, there's
a large depositive earth elements found in India and the
fictional world. We're also in the real world, China has
an eighty percent monopoly on rare element extraction and refinement
and they want to keep that monopoly and we want
to break it. So fictional world, we're going to help
India to extract this for earth elements covertly, and China
(05:44):
finds out about it and they're trying to break it covertly,
which is all hybrid warfare inside the gray zone of
warfare between peace and war.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And that's pretty much where the book came from.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I will note to listeners, I don't think I
mentioned this on the show a few days ago eve
though I probably should have. But when when the you know,
the volume of the rhetoric got really cranked up a
few days ago between the US and China. One of
the things that China announced is they're going to stop
exporting some of these rare earth minerals to to the
United States. So this is this is a very serious
(06:16):
pressure point for the United States and we need to
get these things wherever they are. And I will also
note to listeners this is sort of a nerdy point.
Rare earth minerals are mostly not very rare, but they
occur in fairly low concentrations, you know, in any given
pound of rock or pound of ore, so you know,
you need a big area with billions of tons of ore.
(06:37):
And there are some of these, but it's a it's
a massive mining job and then a massive processing job.
And because of all of our environmental environmental regulations that
we have, it it makes it uneconomic to try to
do these things in the United States.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We may have some a big deposit in.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Wyoming even But anyway, back so so back to Brad's story.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Now, actually, before we get to the plot, you've used.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
The term now in our conversation also for the title
of the book, Into the gray Zone.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
What's the gray zone?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
The gray zone is kind of a it's a national
defense nomenclature nickname for hybrid warfare, basically anything from absolute
peace to trigger pulling war, a gray zone, using the
Ukraine as example. Grey zone would be in twenty fourteen
when Putin sent his little green men in and said
it was a spontaneous uprising and that this was all
(07:30):
done internally. It's not part of Russia. Well, it was
definitely part of Russia. That's gray zone. He's got plausib deniability.
The China Belton Road initiative where they're doing basically it's
a loan sharking operation. They go on and say, I'll
loan you this money for this diamond mind and if
you can't pay me back, I'm taking a diamond mine.
Rare earth elements are part of the gray zone warfare.
It goes on the sharp end of the spear. You've
(07:52):
got people getting you know, I Ran. It's got proxies
all over the place. We all know now Hamas Huthi's
Hesba Lah. They do things on behalf of Ran, but
the brand's got plausible deniability of it occurring. That's all
gray zone warfare. So it can go from the benign
to you know, Russia, bot forums doing disinformation in America.
That's greyzone warfare, but a little risk all the way
to you know, Hamas slaughtering a bunch of innocence on
(08:16):
behalf of Iran.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
So again I don't want to give away much because
listeners should just go by into the gray zone and
read it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, you can order it today and it'll be delivered
next week.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
But part of the plot here is that the the
government of China wants to stop the development of this
rare earth mine, and in order to do that, they
need to.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Hurt the US.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And in order to be able to hurt the US,
they feel like they need the US focused somewhere else
or focused on a particular thing.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So really they have kind of I'll use a bad analogy.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You know. You hear these terrorist attacks where the terrorisole
set off a bomb and then they'll wait for first responders, police,
fire whoever to show up, and then they'll set off
another bomb right there to kill them. And and in
a way, it seems like what you've laid out here
would be a similar kind of tactical approach by the Chinese.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah, in this case, the Chinese, if they've hired some
guys to basically eliminate the billionaire who's willing to do
the mining, and the people they've hired, unbeknownst to them,
have actually have their own agenda. So they're going to
take Chinese money and do what they say they're going
to do, and then do something completely different until they're
(09:35):
off the rails doing their own thing as part of
the Gray Waring. They have their own issues, their own motivations,
and neither Now China is like, what have we let loose?
Because that's going to make us look bad if these
guys go nuts and we of course, as in the
book itself, Mike Logan's trying to figure out what in
the world's going on here. Something is more than just
you know, it's not just terrorists. They're trying to blame
(09:57):
it on straight up terrorism, but suspected something more.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Pike Logan doesn't age very much. Do you think Pike
Logan will ever retire?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
That's actually when I first started writing, I was like,
you know, I didn't know i'd have one book published,
much less nineteen and early on I asked a buddy
of mine, Robert Crace, is a well known writer as well.
His guy Elvis Cole when he first started writing, was
a Vietnam vet, and you know now he'd be running
around in a wheelchair. And I said, how do you
How'd you get around this with a series? And he said,
(10:29):
Elvis Cole's Superman. He never ages, And I said, that's
what I'm doing. So administrations will change, people will leave,
come and go in the books in the Pike Logan universe,
but he's aging for every year I age.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
He ages a minute, yeah, which is which is an
interesting thing. Not every author does it that way, but
you always know what you're gonna get with Pike Logan.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh so very quickly, just about out of time? Are
you one to the next book yet? I am.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
I just got back from Argentina doing on ground research
in Argentina, and and what spike that was? It turns
out that Triborder region Argentina and Brazil and Paraguay has
the largest concentration of Hesbelah outside of Lebanon.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What really? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Yeah, there's actually more Lebanese if you count the descendants.
There's more Lebanese in leven in Brazil than there are
in Lebanon.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Unbelievable. Wow, is anybody well, this is going to be
the plot of your fiction book. But in the real world,
is anybody paying attention to that? Is anybody trying to Yeah,
you know it give some high speed let for a
long time members. It's basically a fundraising element for him.
They do drug running, do crime, that kind of stuff,
especially when we put the sanctions on Iran, and Ran
(11:41):
couldn't fund Hesbela as much.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Well, they turned a crime to do it. And they've
got this diaspora down there in a triboard. The Triple
Frontier is just crime ridden and that's generally what they do,
although in ninety four they did blow up the Israeli
Mutual Aided Society down there in Argentina.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, and so just for listeners, I mean many of
you probably read Redtail the books already, but the plots,
including into the Gray Zone plot, is stuff that is
just barely fantastic. But what I mean by fantastic is,
you know, hard to believe. It's right on the edge.
(12:19):
And it's because he does so much research that the plot,
even though it's really kind of out there, you think,
you know, maybe that could happen.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And that's why the books are so much fun. Folks
go buy into the gray Zone.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It's actual release is four days from now, but you
can order it right now and you'll have a lot
of fun reading it. Brad, thanks so much for being
here as always, and of course thanks again for your
service to our country.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Thank you appreciate it, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
All right, Glad to do it all right. That's Brad Taylor.
I love it. I really enjoy his books a lot.
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