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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am so happy to have my next guest joining
me in studio.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Jamie Lisso is his back in studio with me.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And I'm sure you know him well from the gut
Failed Show, where he appears at least once a week,
and probably my wife's favorite person on that show.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
More than Gutfield himself.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And although Kat Timp is pretty high on our list
as well, and and.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You've probably seen him at comedy works as well.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And first, let me just say thanks for doing this,
because you're, you know, your pretty big name at this point,
you don't necessarily have to do this, and you don't
have a show this weekend, so you didn't really have
to come in and hang out with me.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So I'm really glad you did. Oh happy to be here, man.
I remember very fondly my last appearance on here. And
we were here for a few days, and I go,
let me swing by. We did comedy works downtown on Sunday,
and I have I have comedy work South coming up
in decem December. People sometimes go, I already made plans.
I go, how about this, how about eight months? Notice
what's your excuse?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That's right, and that's it's.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Linked on the ball at Roskimminsky dot com. You can
go to Comedyworks dot com as well and find your
tickets for this and every.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I got so many different things I want to talk about,
But first tell tell listeners what you were telling me
about your experience performing at Comedy Works Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh dude, I've been doing comedy for so long, Like
I did this tonight show in two thousand and one.
That's how long I've been doing this. And I'm not
kidding you. This club I've I've heard about. I've always
done South, right, I think I've always done South. When
I came here and we go, let's do a show downtown,
I kept hearing about this room. Any hear things and
things don't live up to expectations. You have stuff like that,
and uh, my goodness. I go up on stage and
(01:32):
I did one joke and it was the biggest, longest
laugh I have ever gotten since I started comedy. I
will say I did notice my pants were down, and
so I don't know if that was related, but.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Honestly, but it was like a palpable like I could
feel the energy.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's crazy, like it's a it's an unbelieve there's a
magic that they can never change locations because there's something
magical about that place. And I love Denver, and I'm
this makes I might sound a little ignorant here. When
I first came to Denver, I called the club and
I go, hey, I'm just checking out over there tomorrow.
And they always want to warn you you should bring oxygen,
and I go, listen. I'm not the most famous community
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in the world, but I feel like that's something the
club should provide.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I feel like it's all around us. You know.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I didn't understand the oxygen thing, and and I got
I don't do that well with the elevation. Really you
I got those tanks and stuff, yeah for real? Yeah yeah,
the little portable thing with the green plastic.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Top I got. We got a bunch of them in
the hotel room. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Do you use it well? I mean when you were
on stage? I mean most most of times people bring
out a bottle of water. Do you bring out an
oxygen thing? I don't bring an auxton, but I do.
It's like ten years ago, it would have been a
bong backstage. Now we're passing around O two too, you know.
Uh huh oh, my gosh, all right, So last time,
last time you were here, I got to meet your
lovely and talented fiance.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
If I'm allowed to use her name in public, so
I won't say her name.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
And I wanted to know if you're married yet.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So are not married yet? It's June seventh. She's with
me here, she will come with She look at my calendar.
This is I feel like this is important to tell
the people of Colorado and Denver. She looks at my
calendar and she goes, if she sees somewhere that's gonna
be fun. She goes, I want to come, And she's
not Colorado. She's been with me this entire tour. We've
been very excited. And then she'll go like, oh, worry
at next week And I go Oklahoma City and she goes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'll see when you get back. But we're loving it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I have a kind of a radio this sort of
a radio question, like one of those like you know,
like general, like what people's thoughts are. I'd love to
get your so my fancy she's like a pretty girl, right,
And I feel like the most common thing that I
hear from fans or what I know part of it's
like your comedians, and people will say things to you
that might be insulting, but they think like, ah, he's
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a comedian, like it won't bother him. I often hear
and I'd like you taking it. People will say, oh,
you outkicked your coverage. Have you heard that praise?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
If you heard that, would do you think that is
a compliment or an insult?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yes? Because I feel like it's.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I So people say the same thing about me. I
also have a good looking blonde wife. And how do
you feel when they what is your first feeling like?
Do you feel like a defensiveness or do you go like, oh,
that's nice, right, Because you can say you're saying that
I'm not either good looking enough or something else enough
to deserve that. I take it as a compliment, like
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I've done something well enough in life that that woman
found me interesting, attractive, whatever enough to say Yeah, So
I take it as a compliment.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I think that's the right way to frame it. And
this guy came up the other night, and I've heard this.
I hear this all the time. Whenever I post a
photo of me and her, they go, oh, she's Ai.
You know you've out catched your coverage, And this really
drunk guy came up when he was with his wife
and they were like spilling drinks all over the table
and all this stuff, and the guy goes he just
starts going, you at kicked your coverage, which I looked
it up and it's like a football reference. I'm not
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an ex sports guy. Uh hu, maybe everyone knows that.
And then I looked at him and I didn't say it,
but I thought to myself, man, it looks like you
got a safety, you know what I say?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And uh, I feel like that brutal. Was that the
joke you opened with on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I don't know that. I don't stage. I don't know
if I've done that one on stage. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So okay, I was actually wondering about this is the
same way you were wondering a thing. So, yeah, your
wife is good or soon to be wife is good looking.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And she's like a doctor. I think that's part of
its team. But she's very smart. She has a real
presence in a room. And one of the things I've
wondered is whether people.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Will say things to you about her or about things
you might be doing with her that are really inappropriate,
but they think you'd be fine with.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It because you're a comedian all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And I will tell you, do you know when you
do I don't know what the radio equivalent is, but
when you do comedy, you often hear like people go, oh,
say something funny. She goes, you know, doctors, Like that's
a huge thing where it's like, hey, can you look
at this thing. First time we ever met was at
the Denver Comedy Club. Was the first time I met.
I was with Erica and she was telling me this, like,
are you serious, like people ask you for like work,
and she goes, yeah, it happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I go up on stage, I do my set, and
I come off of stage into the green room and
the MC has his sock and shoe off and he's
asking Erica.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
To examine his foot in the green room of the
kind of I swear to god, I go, oh my god,
this is an example.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
This is like her hey be funny comedian, Yeah, like
the doctor thing.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, Oh my gosh. We were talking a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
About travel before, and you mentioned just in passing about
some travel that you've done with your fiance. So what
are you talking about what we just talked about or
some other travel that you've done.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, so we have a She was at a place
in Boise where she practiced medicine, and then after we started,
you know, we feel like we got along and we
got engaged in stuff. Now she does tell them medicine.
So it's also she comes on the river together. Now
we live together. Yeah, and uh, and she is still
the place in Alaska where my kids, where my kids
are and stuff. But yeah, we live together and she
does like right now she's she's seeing patients in a
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hotel room and she kicks me out and I go
do stuff, and it's it's kind of working out. Tell
the medicine is the way of the future. For sure.
There's it's like, uh, yeah, you don't have to try,
you don't have to if you have the flu, you
don't have to expose people to your symptoms. I don't know,
I feel like it really is the the way.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So again, I don't want to say anything that I'm
not supposed to be saying. I think I think I
remember what her specialty is, and it would seem to
me that that specialty is one where from time to
time you might really need to be in person.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
With the room and like check some things.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, so she does have like a place where if
she needs to see them in person she can, but
a lot by the way, what she does is I
think what we'll call it women's health, okay, right, which
I feel like that's the best.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I remember when I met her and she said women's health.
I oh, that's so much better than men's health, you
know what I mean. I just don't I don't need
that kind of competition.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Just I just know I could have had that one,
you know, anyway I knew iPhone, then they come out
with a bigger one, you know, that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think I have.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
A vague recollection of seeing a thing.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Where you were talking with her and she was.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Telling me about her work, and then you made some
comment about I don't know, you.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Thought it was a little bit exciting. Yeah, this comes
up a lot. This is why no one gives me
in the room when she's doing appointments.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know, right, Oh my gosh, it's unbelievable. So what else,
what else are you doing these days? Like, are you
doing any not gut filled but like special projects.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's funny. I have this I'm so excited about this project.
I'm not one hundred percent sure if I'm allowed to
talk about it, but I'll do it vaguely. It's this weekend. Actually,
I'm going to New York to shoot a It's a
new game show that's already picked up. It's coming out.
I just don't know how much I'm allowed to say
about it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Are you the MC?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I am like the It's almost like there's a host
someone you would know who he is for sure, and
then there's U two comedians that are in every episode.
I wish it's and it is one of the best
concepts I have ever heard. It was the most excited
I've ever been for a project when I got the email,
and I wish I hate to do this, to do
(09:17):
like the teaser that I can't pay off, but it
is such a cool concept. It's sort of like, uh,
I don't know, I've never heard anything like it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And so I'm doing that. I'm doing that.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It's going to be on I don't know if I'm
allowed to say the channel, but it'll be announced like
in a week.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay, everybody will know when when it's announced.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It if there's sort of interesting behind the scenes stuff
to talk about. Maybe you can do a hit with
me by phone or zoom. I'd love to, man promote
the thing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I would love to.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I will find out if I'm allowed to talk about
I call you after refilm or something, because it's really
cool to talk about.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It's a cool concept.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, that that sounds that sounds really really great. So
how is Guttfeld treating I don't mean the person. How's
how's that show treating you?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Do? You do? You dig it? And is it? What's
it like for someone who.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Does what you do to do the same thing over
and over so often in the same place.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Is that? What's that like? I would say the most excited.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
The reason I think Gutfeld is my favorite part of
my job is because like when I did the Tonight Show,
they it took a I think it took almost six
months for them to approve my set. Like they see
you and they oh, you're funny, change this word, do this,
and you're doing a four and a half minute sets
and all this build up and you do it. And
on Gutfeld you are doing brand new material in front
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of four million people. So I think that is like
one of the most, I get a lot of anxiety,
like every time. Next week will be my one hundred
and thirty fifth appearance. Wow, there's not a day that
I'm on where I'm not like, can I do it again?
Can we pull this off again? Because it's doing like
almost fifteen minutes because you're doing five topics here, three
jokes of topics, fifteen jokes. I got to write two
backups in case Greg says the same joke I wrote,
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or his writers, Yeah, on a premise. So you're writing, like,
you know, twenty five jokes and then just walking out
there and doing it for the very It's like, you know,
like an open mic is where you try it out,
but this is on a very big stage, and so
the excitement level of doing like a brand new joke
or doing like an ad lib on that show is
it's the best. And I think like the response from
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like all the people that came to my downtown show,
thank you for selling it out, Denver was I think
they relate to you because you're hanging out, You're not
just going ice Cream's weird, you know, like you're they
know who you are, and I'm like this, you know,
I'm sort of this character I'm like this this which
is actually me, like this divorced dad from uh, you know,
Alaskan stuff. By the way, I had a lot of
people when I started publicly saying, oh, I'm engaged now,
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people not joking, saying you're gonna ruin everything. You're like
this Rodney Dangerfield guy, and you're this loser and we
like you because you're this underdog.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You can't be dating this doctor. You're gonna ruin it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And my response is always, I feel like Rodney who
was my favorite comic, so I got to meet him
a bunch of times. Really, I feel like at the
end he's so funny. But at the end when he
is on Carson, hey I get no respect? Yeah, I go,
this is your fortieth appearance. You're getting respect, You're getting
a little bit of respect, you're selling out theaters. I
feel like we would have accepted him if he was like, hey,
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I'm getting a good amount of respect. I'm now respected,
And so I feel like it's okay to develop a
character into something different.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay, So I got a lot of things to say that.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
First of all, Rodney Dangerfield was my first girlfriend's uncle,
and I want to say his real name was something
like Jack Cohen, Yeah, yeah, you got it, something like that.
Jack a nice Jewish boy, and what an unbelievable comic.
And you know, even you know, obviously he's passed away,
but young young people who will never see him live
can still kind of get to love him through you know,
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Caddy Shack and back to school and all of this.
He's just incredible, really really incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Okay, back to the Gutfeld thing. I'm very interested in
your in.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
What in the business of what you do and how
you do what you do. And by the way, if
you're joining just now we're talking with Jamie Lisso who's
playing it. Comedy works out at the you've got plenty
of advanced notice because usually when Jamie's here, like the
show's that night, you got eight months notice. That's all right,
December fourth through six, that comedy works out at the Landmark.
You can go to Comedyworks dot com or you can
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go to my website at Roskimisky dot com. So obviously
you know the topics they're gonna be discussed on on
the Gutfeld Show. You all plan that stuff out in advance,
just like the five, doesn't it It would be dumb
not to plan the topics in advance. You gotta but
you can't know. Well I shouldn't say you can't. I
assume you don't know exactly what the other people are
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gonna say.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, no idea.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So you've got to write jokes based on kind of
how you think the conversation is gonna go or does
that not matter, and you're only thinking about your thoughts
on the topic.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
How do you write? How do you do that?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So I'm very lucky because I'm not as smart as
any of those people. And so it's like I was saying,
one hundred and thirty episodes, I don't think I've ever
made a point on the show, Like I feel like
the difference between me where I don't have to worry
if there's if I'm on with another comic I've been
on with, like Joe mackew before, who's like one of
my favorite comics, it's a little trickier because he's also
like a joke first guy, and when our minds might
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go to the same place, and in that case, you
got to double up your jokes.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You got to go, like, what if Joe says this one?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, I gotta have twice as many, but I feel
like my default has always been sometimes I'm like, I
have a really great point about this topic, but I
think I have a really good joke, and I always
tell the joke. I go, I feel like everyone's making
really good points on that channel, Why do they need
me to make another point?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So I feel like my default being joke first and
sort of making it like trying to find an angle
that no one else will find. Is that's the escape
room that you're trying to solve, like every day is
to go. Sometimes I come up with when I go,
there is no way and it's gonna take it in
this direction. And sometimes I do that because no one's
gonna mention the divorced dad ex wife Alaska angle because
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that's my that's kind of my thing. And so I
feel like going comedy first has really helped me. Yeah,
and dude, I write, we get the topic at eleven am,
and then we go on the show at five thirty pm.
I write the entire time like I sit at a
coffee shop waiting for the email to show up, and
if it's ten minutes late, I go, what's going on?
Like what's happening? And the minute shows up, I write
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for an hour. Then I go to a cold plunge
saun a place and I have a waterproof notebook and
I do it every gutfl and I do a cold plunge,
write a couple jokes on a couple jokes, and then
at like four o'clock, I have two comedians I call
at separate times. I run all the jokes by them
and they'll be like, oh, that one you need more context.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I've heard that one before, and I go, okay, So
I have this thing.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I schedule these two half hour calls, so I have
like a very I take it very seriously, like the
fact that they had me on there, I take very seriously.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Okay, So this next question to promise is not sarcasm.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Why who is willing to take that much time every
week to go through your jokes with you? You don't
need to name them, but that good friends that they're
willing to do that or yeah, good friends. It's a
paid gig, not like a gig that will you know,
will you pay them?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I do?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I do.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, I throw my friends a little bit of cash.
That then answers that question then, because there's a lot
of time, yeah, to do that if you're going to
go do a thing. One time he said, hey, you know,
can you look at these jokes? Okay, but every week, Yeah,
it's a lot that It is a lot. So wait,
cold plunge. Tell me about this, Oh dude, So the
cold plunge, it's I think it's the only natural way
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to increase like epinephrine, adrenaline, you know, all that, all
those good hormon I'm missing the key one.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I can't remember it. Uh, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It's like the only way to naturally and sustain increase
your dopamine without a crash, because you can increase it
with like you know, coffee makes your dopamine work better,
but there's all these different things you can do, but
it's like the ultimate way. It's like a sustained dopamine release.
And to me it is I don't know. I like,
if I don't cold plunge for a week, I start
to get a little sad. I start to be a
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little bit negative. Really, but this cold plunge man combined
with you know, it was a huge Uh. I don't
know if you know Tucker Carlson at all, but like,
so I get a this is really random. But like
I'm sitting in Boise, idahelp and Rob Schneider calls me,
who's my friend that we did the Netflix TV show?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And he goes, what do you do? He goes, what
are you doing for the next three days?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And I go, I'm in boise And he goes, I
am sitting with Tucker Carlson and I'm on tour with him.
And he goes, I just found out my daughter has
a thing I gotta go to. I'm gonna I have
to cancel these shows on him. And I feel terrible,
and he's like, could I you know, like we're just
talking about you. He goes, could I tell him you
you would do him? And I'm like, oh, are you
kidding me? And so twenty four hours later, I'm on
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a private jet with Tucker Carlson and I don't I
don't know if you know me. I don't, uh, you know.
My seat on the way here on the airplane flushed,
and so I mean, this is this is a very
different situation, oh man. And I was wondering I had
heard all these things about Tucker and I wonder what
we'll talk about on the plane. Will it be politics,
We'll be what are yeah for? Probably three hours. We
discussed cold plunges and saunas. Tucker's like big into up
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in his place in Maine. He's been like he's a
big saunic guy, Like every morning he takes wood, like
he has an actual wood burning sauna. Yeah, and the
same way he goes, I need to do this, like
this is my thing. I gotta get up, take this
time to myself sauna. It's a it's a game changer.
I don't know if you've ever saun it. I've sawn it.
I've not cold plunged. Yeah, the cold shrinkage.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, and just the what do they call it, the
mammalian dive reflex where you go, yeah, they did that
happen the moment you get in or do you get
used to it after a while where you can get
in and you don't have.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
That reaction anymore. If you jump in, it's going to
be the worst.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
If you stay for like a minute, your body sort
of desensitizes, yeah, and you can acclimate to get Like
if you don't do it for a couple of weeks
and you know, you go.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Back, you're like, well it's so cold.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
But if you do it every day, it's uh, it's
been a game changer for me, like I can't. I
was at the Tropicana years ago, and Tropicana is one
of those where you start it's fourteen shows, two shows
a night, you sort of start questioning your whole life
if things aren't going exactly as planned. And I remember
they I was like, I need a cold plunge, and
I would. I would take a king sized pillowcase and
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filled up with ice from the ice machine and made
a cold in my bathtub to sort of get through
the week. And it w was goyb be like thirty
minutes to fill it up with ice, and one time
the housekeeper like drained it and I was like, you
just screwed me over.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Man, You've been doing this a long time. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But since you can do that, since you can handle
that cold water, I'm thinking maybe you could be an
avy seal.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I could maybe do just that part of it. Here's yeah,
just had very.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Part of it. All right, we're out of touch to
two very quick things. A listener says, there's a British
television show called Would I Lie to You? That is
exactly in the format that you just described. I'm not
going to ask you if that has to do with
your show, I'm just sharing that with you.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And then a listener my wife was on there, she'd say, yes,
I would my ex wife x rye ex wife, right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And then so last quick thing, I wouldn't pick this
shirt out of a box over by the boss's desk
because I had a large and was a little too big.
And this is a media and I put it on
this morning and I'm messing with him like the buttons
are on the wrong side, which normally means it's a
woman's shirt. And then a colleague check the label and
and sure enough it's a woman's shirt. And now a
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listener says, ask Jamie if I should keep wearing this shirt?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Honest to god, I'm gonna defend you. Here.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
We walked in here and Mel said to me from
the club, She goes, I love the bloss that you're
wearing today, and so I would hang on to it,
and I feel like that's for sure I'm on skirt
that you're wearing.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh my god. See, I'm just good. I'm gonna say
one one last thing. As a guy who has lots of.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Comedians coming through, uh, I kind of put them in
two categories. One is people who are sort of not
really very funny when you're talking to them, but write
incredible jokes, and they say they do incredible comedy sets.
And the other people who are naturally funny and write
great jokes. And that was an example of Jamie being
the latter category, really funny on the fly and I
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and I dig it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Thanks so much for coming in.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
All my best to your to your fiance and and
and have a great wedding. I probably might or might
not talk to you before then.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna call you about that show. I'm
gonna call because I feel like that was mean of
me to you know. It's a great tease. So when
you're watching the local news and they're like there's a
meteor coming to some city and then they got a
commercial and you're like, all right, but thanks man, no
my pleasure. And I remember being on here before and
I was like, this is a great way to start
the day. Will come and say hi, Yeah, I didn't
get you zoo tickets this time, but uh.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Zoo zoo. I forgot about all the zoo stuff. Use
what's the good one?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Cheyenne Mountains. That's right, that's right, it's down in the Springs.
Next time you have a corporate thing in the Springs will.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Start you out. O. We love the zoo, We love
the zoo. Thank you for those tickets.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Jamie Lisso is playing it Comedy Works South at the
Landmark in December. Go to Comedyworks dot comedy get your tickets,
or Rosskiminski dot com I get.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Links to all this. We'll be right back
I am so happy to have my next guest joining
me in studio.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Jamie Lisso is his back in studio with me.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
And I'm sure you know him well from the gut
Failed Show, where he appears at least once a week,
and probably my wife's favorite person on that show.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
More than Gutfield himself.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And although Kat Timp is pretty high on our list
as well, and and.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You've probably seen him at comedy works as well.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And first, let me just say thanks for doing this,
because you're, you know, your pretty big name at this point,
you don't necessarily have to do this, and you don't
have a show this weekend, so you didn't really have
to come in and hang out with me.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
So I'm really glad you did. Oh happy to be here, man.
I remember very fondly my last appearance on here. And
we were here for a few days, and I go,
let me swing by. We did comedy works downtown on Sunday,
and I have I have comedy work South coming up
in decem December. People sometimes go, I already made plans.
I go, how about this, how about eight months? Notice
what's your excuse?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
That's right, and that's it's.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Linked on the ball at Roskimminsky dot com. You can
go to Comedyworks dot com as well and find your
tickets for this and every.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I got so many different things I want to talk about,
But first tell tell listeners what you were telling me
about your experience performing at Comedy Works Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Oh dude, I've been doing comedy for so long, Like
I did this tonight show in two thousand and one.
That's how long I've been doing this. And I'm not
kidding you. This club I've I've heard about. I've always
done South, right, I think I've always done South. When
I came here and we go, let's do a show downtown,
I kept hearing about this room. Any hear things and
things don't live up to expectations. You have stuff like that,
and uh, my goodness. I go up on stage and
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I did one joke and it was the biggest, longest
laugh I have ever gotten since I started comedy. I
will say I did notice my pants were down, and
so I don't know if that was related, but.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Honestly, but it was like a palpable like I could
feel the energy.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's crazy, like it's a it's an unbelieve there's a
magic that they can never change locations because there's something
magical about that place. And I love Denver, and I'm
this makes I might sound a little ignorant here. When
I first came to Denver, I called the club and
I go, hey, I'm just checking out over there tomorrow.
And they always want to warn you you should bring oxygen,
and I go, listen. I'm not the most famous community
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in the world, but I feel like that's something the
club should provide.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I feel like it's all around us. You know.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I didn't understand the oxygen thing, and and I got
I don't do that well with the elevation. Really you
I got those tanks and stuff, yeah for real? Yeah yeah,
the little portable thing with the green plastic.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Top I got. We got a bunch of them in
the hotel room. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Do you use it well? I mean when you were
on stage? I mean most most of times people bring
out a bottle of water. Do you bring out an
oxygen thing? I don't bring an auxton, but I do.
It's like ten years ago, it would have been a
bong backstage. Now we're passing around O two too, you know.
Uh huh oh, my gosh, all right, So last time,
last time you were here, I got to meet your
lovely and talented fiance.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
If I'm allowed to use her name in public, so
I won't say her name.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
And I wanted to know if you're married yet.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So are not married yet? It's June seventh. She's with
me here, she will come with She look at my calendar.
This is I feel like this is important to tell
the people of Colorado and Denver. She looks at my
calendar and she goes, if she sees somewhere that's gonna
be fun. She goes, I want to come, And she's
not Colorado. She's been with me this entire tour. We've
been very excited. And then she'll go like, oh, worry
at next week And I go Oklahoma City and she goes, Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I'll see when you get back. But we're loving it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I have a kind of a radio this sort of
a radio question, like one of those like you know,
like general, like what people's thoughts are. I'd love to
get your so my fancy she's like a pretty girl, right,
And I feel like the most common thing that I
hear from fans or what I know part of it's
like your comedians, and people will say things to you
that might be insulting, but they think like, ah, he's
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a comedian, like it won't bother him. I often hear
and I'd like you taking it. People will say, oh,
you outkicked your coverage. Have you heard that praise?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
If you heard that, would do you think that is
a compliment or an insult?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yes? Because I feel like it's.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I So people say the same thing about me. I
also have a good looking blonde wife. And how do
you feel when they what is your first feeling like?
Do you feel like a defensiveness or do you go like, oh,
that's nice, right, Because you can say you're saying that
I'm not either good looking enough or something else enough
to deserve that. I take it as a compliment, like
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I've done something well enough in life that that woman
found me interesting, attractive, whatever enough to say Yeah, So
I take it as a compliment.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I think that's the right way to frame it. And
this guy came up the other night, and I've heard this.
I hear this all the time. Whenever I post a
photo of me and her, they go, oh, she's Ai.
You know you've out catched your coverage, And this really
drunk guy came up when he was with his wife
and they were like spilling drinks all over the table
and all this stuff, and the guy goes he just
starts going, you at kicked your coverage, which I looked
it up and it's like a football reference. I'm not
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an ex sports guy. Uh hu, maybe everyone knows that.
And then I looked at him and I didn't say it,
but I thought to myself, man, it looks like you
got a safety, you know what I say?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
And uh, I feel like that brutal. Was that the
joke you opened with on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I don't know that. I don't stage. I don't know
if I've done that one on stage. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So okay, I was actually wondering about this is the
same way you were wondering a thing. So, yeah, your
wife is good or soon to be wife is good looking.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And she's like a doctor. I think that's part of
its team. But she's very smart. She has a real
presence in a room. And one of the things I've
wondered is whether people.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Will say things to you about her or about things
you might be doing with her that are really inappropriate,
but they think you'd be fine with.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It because you're a comedian all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And I will tell you, do you know when you
do I don't know what the radio equivalent is, but
when you do comedy, you often hear like people go, oh,
say something funny. She goes, you know, doctors, Like that's
a huge thing where it's like, hey, can you look
at this thing. First time we ever met was at
the Denver Comedy Club. Was the first time I met.
I was with Erica and she was telling me this, like,
are you serious, like people ask you for like work,
and she goes, yeah, it happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I go up on stage, I do my set, and
I come off of stage into the green room and
the MC has his sock and shoe off and he's
asking Erica.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
To examine his foot in the green room of the
kind of I swear to god, I go, oh my god,
this is an example.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
This is like her hey be funny comedian, Yeah, like
the doctor thing.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, Oh my gosh. We were talking a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
About travel before, and you mentioned just in passing about
some travel that you've done with your fiance. So what
are you talking about what we just talked about or
some other travel that you've done.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, so we have a She was at a place
in Boise where she practiced medicine, and then after we started,
you know, we feel like we got along and we
got engaged in stuff. Now she does tell them medicine.
So it's also she comes on the river together. Now
we live together. Yeah, and uh, and she is still
the place in Alaska where my kids, where my kids
are and stuff. But yeah, we live together and she
does like right now she's she's seeing patients in a
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hotel room and she kicks me out and I go
do stuff, and it's it's kind of working out. Tell
the medicine is the way of the future. For sure.
There's it's like, uh, yeah, you don't have to try,
you don't have to if you have the flu, you
don't have to expose people to your symptoms. I don't know,
I feel like it really is the the way.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So again, I don't want to say anything that I'm
not supposed to be saying. I think I think I
remember what her specialty is, and it would seem to
me that that specialty is one where from time to
time you might really need to be in person.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
With the room and like check some things.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, so she does have like a place where if
she needs to see them in person she can, but
a lot by the way, what she does is I
think what we'll call it women's health, okay, right, which
I feel like that's the best.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I remember when I met her and she said women's health.
I oh, that's so much better than men's health, you
know what I mean. I just don't I don't need
that kind of competition.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Just I just know I could have had that one,
you know, anyway I knew iPhone, then they come out
with a bigger one, you know, that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think I have.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
A vague recollection of seeing a thing.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Where you were talking with her and she was.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Telling me about her work, and then you made some
comment about I don't know, you.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Thought it was a little bit exciting. Yeah, this comes
up a lot. This is why no one gives me
in the room when she's doing appointments.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know, right, Oh my gosh, it's unbelievable. So what else,
what else are you doing these days? Like, are you
doing any not gut filled but like special projects.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's funny. I have this I'm so excited about this project.
I'm not one hundred percent sure if I'm allowed to
talk about it, but I'll do it vaguely. It's this weekend. Actually,
I'm going to New York to shoot a It's a
new game show that's already picked up. It's coming out.
I just don't know how much I'm allowed to say
about it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Are you the MC?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I am like the It's almost like there's a host
someone you would know who he is for sure, and
then there's U two comedians that are in every episode.
I wish it's and it is one of the best
concepts I have ever heard. It was the most excited
I've ever been for a project when I got the email,
and I wish I hate to do this, to do
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like the teaser that I can't pay off, but it
is such a cool concept. It's sort of like, uh,
I don't know, I've never heard anything like it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And so I'm doing that. I'm doing that.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It's going to be on I don't know if I'm
allowed to say the channel, but it'll be announced like
in a week.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay, everybody will know when when it's announced.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It if there's sort of interesting behind the scenes stuff
to talk about. Maybe you can do a hit with
me by phone or zoom. I'd love to, man promote
the thing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I would love to.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I will find out if I'm allowed to talk about
I call you after refilm or something, because it's really
cool to talk about.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
It's a cool concept.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, that that sounds that sounds really really great. So
how is Guttfeld treating I don't mean the person. How's
how's that show treating you?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Do? You do? You dig it? And is it? What's
it like for someone who.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Does what you do to do the same thing over
and over so often in the same place.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Is that? What's that like? I would say the most excited.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
The reason I think Gutfeld is my favorite part of
my job is because like when I did the Tonight Show,
they it took a I think it took almost six
months for them to approve my set. Like they see
you and they oh, you're funny, change this word, do this,
and you're doing a four and a half minute sets
and all this build up and you do it. And
on Gutfeld you are doing brand new material in front
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of four million people. So I think that is like
one of the most, I get a lot of anxiety,
like every time. Next week will be my one hundred
and thirty fifth appearance. Wow, there's not a day that
I'm on where I'm not like, can I do it again?
Can we pull this off again? Because it's doing like
almost fifteen minutes because you're doing five topics here, three
jokes of topics, fifteen jokes. I got to write two
backups in case Greg says the same joke I wrote,
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or his writers, Yeah, on a premise. So you're writing, like,
you know, twenty five jokes and then just walking out
there and doing it for the very It's like, you know,
like an open mic is where you try it out,
but this is on a very big stage, and so
the excitement level of doing like a brand new joke
or doing like an ad lib on that show is
it's the best. And I think like the response from
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like all the people that came to my downtown show,
thank you for selling it out, Denver was I think
they relate to you because you're hanging out, You're not
just going ice Cream's weird, you know, like you're they
know who you are, and I'm like this, you know,
I'm sort of this character I'm like this this which
is actually me, like this divorced dad from uh, you know,
Alaskan stuff. By the way, I had a lot of
people when I started publicly saying, oh, I'm engaged now,
(11:35):
people not joking, saying you're gonna ruin everything. You're like
this Rodney Dangerfield guy, and you're this loser and we
like you because you're this underdog.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You can't be dating this doctor. You're gonna ruin it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And my response is always, I feel like Rodney who
was my favorite comic, so I got to meet him
a bunch of times. Really, I feel like at the
end he's so funny. But at the end when he
is on Carson, hey I get no respect? Yeah, I go,
this is your fortieth appearance. You're getting respect, You're getting
a little bit of respect, you're selling out theaters. I
feel like we would have accepted him if he was like, hey,
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I'm getting a good amount of respect. I'm now respected,
And so I feel like it's okay to develop a
character into something different.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay, So I got a lot of things to say that.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
First of all, Rodney Dangerfield was my first girlfriend's uncle,
and I want to say his real name was something
like Jack Cohen, Yeah, yeah, you got it, something like that.
Jack a nice Jewish boy, and what an unbelievable comic.
And you know, even you know, obviously he's passed away,
but young young people who will never see him live
can still kind of get to love him through you know,
(12:38):
Caddy Shack and back to school and all of this.
He's just incredible, really really incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Okay, back to the Gutfeld thing. I'm very interested in
your in.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
What in the business of what you do and how
you do what you do. And by the way, if
you're joining just now we're talking with Jamie Lisso who's
playing it. Comedy works out at the you've got plenty
of advanced notice because usually when Jamie's here, like the
show's that night, you got eight months notice. That's all right,
December fourth through six, that comedy works out at the Landmark.
You can go to Comedyworks dot com or you can
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go to my website at Roskimisky dot com. So obviously
you know the topics they're gonna be discussed on on
the Gutfeld Show. You all plan that stuff out in advance,
just like the five, doesn't it It would be dumb
not to plan the topics in advance. You gotta but
you can't know. Well I shouldn't say you can't. I
assume you don't know exactly what the other people are
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gonna say.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, no idea.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So you've got to write jokes based on kind of
how you think the conversation is gonna go or does
that not matter, and you're only thinking about your thoughts
on the topic.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
How do you write? How do you do that?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So I'm very lucky because I'm not as smart as
any of those people. And so it's like I was saying,
one hundred and thirty episodes, I don't think I've ever
made a point on the show, Like I feel like
the difference between me where I don't have to worry
if there's if I'm on with another comic I've been
on with, like Joe mackew before, who's like one of
my favorite comics, it's a little trickier because he's also
like a joke first guy, and when our minds might
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go to the same place, and in that case, you
got to double up your jokes.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
You got to go, like, what if Joe says this one?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, I gotta have twice as many, but I feel
like my default has always been sometimes I'm like, I
have a really great point about this topic, but I
think I have a really good joke, and I always
tell the joke. I go, I feel like everyone's making
really good points on that channel, Why do they need
me to make another point?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So I feel like my default being joke first and
sort of making it like trying to find an angle
that no one else will find. Is that's the escape
room that you're trying to solve, like every day is
to go. Sometimes I come up with when I go,
there is no way and it's gonna take it in
this direction. And sometimes I do that because no one's
gonna mention the divorced dad ex wife Alaska angle because
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that's my that's kind of my thing. And so I
feel like going comedy first has really helped me. Yeah,
and dude, I write, we get the topic at eleven am,
and then we go on the show at five thirty pm.
I write the entire time like I sit at a
coffee shop waiting for the email to show up, and
if it's ten minutes late, I go, what's going on?
Like what's happening? And the minute shows up, I write
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for an hour. Then I go to a cold plunge
saun a place and I have a waterproof notebook and
I do it every gutfl and I do a cold plunge,
write a couple jokes on a couple jokes, and then
at like four o'clock, I have two comedians I call
at separate times. I run all the jokes by them
and they'll be like, oh, that one you need more context.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I've heard that one before, and I go, okay, So
I have this thing.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I schedule these two half hour calls, so I have
like a very I take it very seriously, like the
fact that they had me on there, I take very seriously.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Okay, So this next question to promise is not sarcasm.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Why who is willing to take that much time every
week to go through your jokes with you? You don't
need to name them, but that good friends that they're
willing to do that or yeah, good friends. It's a
paid gig, not like a gig that will you know,
will you pay them?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I do?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I do.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, I throw my friends a little bit of cash.
That then answers that question then, because there's a lot
of time, yeah, to do that if you're going to
go do a thing. One time he said, hey, you know,
can you look at these jokes? Okay, but every week, Yeah,
it's a lot that It is a lot. So wait,
cold plunge. Tell me about this, Oh dude, So the
cold plunge, it's I think it's the only natural way
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to increase like epinephrine, adrenaline, you know, all that, all
those good hormon I'm missing the key one.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I can't remember it. Uh, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
It's like the only way to naturally and sustain increase
your dopamine without a crash, because you can increase it
with like you know, coffee makes your dopamine work better,
but there's all these different things you can do, but
it's like the ultimate way. It's like a sustained dopamine release.
And to me it is I don't know. I like,
if I don't cold plunge for a week, I start
to get a little sad. I start to be a
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little bit negative. Really, but this cold plunge man combined
with you know, it was a huge Uh. I don't
know if you know Tucker Carlson at all, but like,
so I get a this is really random. But like
I'm sitting in Boise, idahelp and Rob Schneider calls me,
who's my friend that we did the Netflix TV show?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
And he goes, what do you do? He goes, what
are you doing for the next three days?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And I go, I'm in boise And he goes, I
am sitting with Tucker Carlson and I'm on tour with him.
And he goes, I just found out my daughter has
a thing I gotta go to. I'm gonna I have
to cancel these shows on him. And I feel terrible,
and he's like, could I you know, like we're just
talking about you. He goes, could I tell him you
you would do him? And I'm like, oh, are you
kidding me? And so twenty four hours later, I'm on
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a private jet with Tucker Carlson and I don't I
don't know if you know me. I don't, uh, you know.
My seat on the way here on the airplane flushed,
and so I mean, this is this is a very
different situation, oh man. And I was wondering I had
heard all these things about Tucker and I wonder what
we'll talk about on the plane. Will it be politics,
We'll be what are yeah for? Probably three hours. We
discussed cold plunges and saunas. Tucker's like big into up
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in his place in Maine. He's been like he's a
big saunic guy, Like every morning he takes wood, like
he has an actual wood burning sauna. Yeah, and the
same way he goes, I need to do this, like
this is my thing. I gotta get up, take this
time to myself sauna. It's a it's a game changer.
I don't know if you've ever saun it. I've sawn it.
I've not cold plunged. Yeah, the cold shrinkage.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, and just the what do they call it, the
mammalian dive reflex where you go, yeah, they did that
happen the moment you get in or do you get
used to it after a while where you can get
in and you don't have.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
That reaction anymore. If you jump in, it's going to
be the worst.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
If you stay for like a minute, your body sort
of desensitizes, yeah, and you can acclimate to get Like
if you don't do it for a couple of weeks
and you know, you go.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Back, you're like, well it's so cold.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
But if you do it every day, it's uh, it's
been a game changer for me, like I can't. I
was at the Tropicana years ago, and Tropicana is one
of those where you start it's fourteen shows, two shows
a night, you sort of start questioning your whole life
if things aren't going exactly as planned. And I remember
they I was like, I need a cold plunge, and
I would. I would take a king sized pillowcase and
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filled up with ice from the ice machine and made
a cold in my bathtub to sort of get through
the week. And it w was goyb be like thirty
minutes to fill it up with ice, and one time
the housekeeper like drained it and I was like, you
just screwed me over.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Man, You've been doing this a long time. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
But since you can do that, since you can handle
that cold water, I'm thinking maybe you could be an
avy seal.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I could maybe do just that part of it. Here's yeah,
just had very.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Part of it. All right, we're out of touch to
two very quick things. A listener says, there's a British
television show called Would I Lie to You? That is
exactly in the format that you just described. I'm not
going to ask you if that has to do with
your show, I'm just sharing that with you.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
And then a listener my wife was on there, she'd say, yes,
I would my ex wife x rye ex wife, right.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And then so last quick thing, I wouldn't pick this
shirt out of a box over by the boss's desk
because I had a large and was a little too big.
And this is a media and I put it on
this morning and I'm messing with him like the buttons
are on the wrong side, which normally means it's a
woman's shirt. And then a colleague check the label and
and sure enough it's a woman's shirt. And now a
(20:04):
listener says, ask Jamie if I should keep wearing this shirt?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Honest to god, I'm gonna defend you. Here.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
We walked in here and Mel said to me from
the club, She goes, I love the bloss that you're
wearing today, and so I would hang on to it,
and I feel like that's for sure I'm on skirt
that you're wearing.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh my god. See, I'm just good. I'm gonna say
one one last thing. As a guy who has lots of.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Comedians coming through, uh, I kind of put them in
two categories. One is people who are sort of not
really very funny when you're talking to them, but write
incredible jokes, and they say they do incredible comedy sets.
And the other people who are naturally funny and write
great jokes. And that was an example of Jamie being
the latter category, really funny on the fly and I
(20:48):
and I dig it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Thanks so much for coming in.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
All my best to your to your fiance and and
and have a great wedding. I probably might or might
not talk to you before then.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna call you about that show. I'm
gonna call because I feel like that was mean of
me to you know. It's a great tease. So when
you're watching the local news and they're like there's a
meteor coming to some city and then they got a
commercial and you're like, all right, but thanks man, no
my pleasure. And I remember being on here before and
I was like, this is a great way to start
the day. Will come and say hi, Yeah, I didn't
get you zoo tickets this time, but uh.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Zoo zoo. I forgot about all the zoo stuff. Use
what's the good one?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Cheyenne Mountains. That's right, that's right, it's down in the Springs.
Next time you have a corporate thing in the Springs will.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Start you out. O. We love the zoo, We love
the zoo. Thank you for those tickets.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Jamie Lisso is playing it Comedy Works South at the
Landmark in December. Go to Comedyworks dot comedy get your tickets,
or Rosskiminski dot com I get.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Links to all this. We'll be right back
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