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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A month ago, a little over a month ago.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I bought on eBay a device that I've been looking
for for quite a while. It's a nineteen sixties capacitor
tester called a tell O Mike. If you want to
look it up te L dash O h m ik
E model sixteen. You could just look up probably model
sixteen capacitor.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Tester and you'll find it.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
And I found one that looked to be in great
condition at a reasonable price on eBay, and I bought it.
But I thought I would be clever and not open
it and save it for Hanukah and open it on Hankah.
And then I saved it to the very end, and
then we got busy, so I opened it this morning.
I opened it this morning to find that it had
been badly packed, and I see broken glass bouncing around.

(00:46):
I see broken glass in the.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Newspaper that he kind of sort of patted it with.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
And when I lift up the little device, I hear,
you know, glass slashing around inside. So I think the
best possible outcome would be that there was a tube
that broke in there, and that I just have to,
you know, get it out and.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Replace it in I don't know I'm very frustrated.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So I messaged, and because I waited so long to
open it, I'm like five days past when I'm allowed
to return it by eBay's rules.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Because I kept it for myself.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
For Hank and didn't open it until now, I should
have opened it and inspected it right away and then
just put it out there for a Hanakad gift for myself.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
But anyway, so we'll see what the guy says.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Like, why would you send like nineteen sixties sensitive electronic
equipment with a little bit of newspaper to pad it
in the boxes? It's being bounced across the country by
whoever had I don't even.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Know if it was UPS or FedEx or the post office.
I don't even know who he shipped it with.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
And oh gosh, just a little bit frustrating.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
So we'll see, we'll see what happens. I do.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I want you to know that we got a cool
thing going on, especially a Broncos fan and KOAS fan.
You can go to Koa's Facebook page or our ex
formerly Twitter page at KOA Colorado on either one of
those things and vote for your favorite KOA Broncos call the.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Choices that we got up there right now the drive the.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Helicopter, wild Card walk off or the Super Bowl fifty stripsack,
and thank you to the Denver Broncos for celebrating one
hundred years of KOA with us, and.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I retweeted it, but if you go to if you go.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
To Koacolorado dot com, you'll find it and there's actually
also a link at.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
The or the Broncos actually posted it as well.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
By the way, on on Sunday, our own Dave Logan
is gonna plant the flag to hype up the Broncos
faithful hype up Broncos Country at empower Field at Mile
High just before kickoff.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
So that's gonna be That's gonna be pretty fabulous.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Ross are you school that? Are you sure that's school email?
Isn't phishing?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I am sure because I see the link that opened
and it's and it's legit. So I'm gonna try again
and maybe it'll maybe it'll work a little later in
the day, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I'm cautiously optimistic, all right.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
So I mentioned this when I was doing the Marty
and Gina crossover thing a couple minutes ago. What an
amazing advertisement for Tesla that attempted terrorist attack at the
Trump Las Vegas Hotel was I didn't mention this part
yesterday because I'm a moron and didn't think of it.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
But I heard somebody else mention it, so I'll mention
it now.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
And I could have sounded smart, but I didn't want
to take credit for something that I didn't even think of,
because I'm.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
An idiot sometimes.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
And that is if that person who you know decorated
Green Beret apparently with bronze star, with the develop with
the Valor device and doing high tech work for the
defense industry, and I mean, the guy seemed like the
real deal. But anyway, for whatever reason, he decided to
set off a bomb in front of the Trump Las

(04:05):
Vegas Hotel. And I don't know what happened to this guy.
I don't know what went wrong with his brain. There
were a couple of guns, at least a couple of
guns in the car, one of which apparently was used
by the guy to kill himself before, like he must
have lit the fuse or started the timer or however
he had these things set up then shot himself because
he didn't want to get blown up or burned or something.

(04:27):
And if you're gonna do the terrorist attack, you know,
at least have the courage to be, you know, really
part of it, right, at least the suicide bombers, you know,
they really they let the vest blow themselves up and
hopefully they suffer a lot. I don't think they do, actually,
but that would be nice to think anyway. Anyway, So
this guy, smart guy a.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Eighteen years or something in the US military.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
If he's attacking Trump Tower, because it's a political statement
and it's hard to imagine that it would be anything else,
then one no wonders whether he decided to use a
tesla to do it because of the recent close association
between Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't know. It was reported this morning that.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
This guy texted his ex girlfriend. And by the way,
since he broke up with that girlfriend several years ago,
he married someone else and had a kid. But he
texted his ex girlfriend apparently was very surprised to hear
from him, and he said, oh, I rented a cyber truck.
And she asked something like that's cool.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Is it fast?

Speaker 2 (05:32):
And he said something like it's unbelievably fast. And anyway,
one wonders whether he picked a Tesla vehicle intentionally, I
have no idea, but in any case, and I posted
a video on my.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Blog at Rosskiminsky dot com.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
You can go see it, and it's got the explosion
as of the vehicle, well of the stuff inside the
vehicle as captured by the security camera just outside the
Trump Las Vegas Hotel, and the vehicle of appears to
be maybe I'm gonna guess twelve feet or so from
the glass doors of the hotel and it shouldn't take

(06:10):
much of an explosion from twelve feet away to crack
or blow out glass doors. That are you know, like
I said that that close. But instead because of the
construction of the cyber truck, by the way, cyber truck,
which construction which a lot of people aren't happy about, right,

(06:31):
it's it's incredibly strong, it's it's steel, and you run
into some typical aluminum or fiberglass or whatever car that
that are most cars out there, right, and if those
two hit, it's gonna do immense damage to the other
car and not much damage to itself. Anyway, that construction

(06:51):
kept most of the explosion inside the vehicle, and it
looks like a lot of the venting that did happen
went up rather then out the sides, And as I
said yesterday, the only person who died was the perpetrator,
and the glass windows weren't even broken, and it just took.
The more I think about this, the more this is
the single best advertising for Tesla that has ever occurred.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
For those just joining I was.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I was a little flustered at the beginning of the
show because I got an email from my kid's school
saying there's an important document you need to read.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
And I'm thinking, all right, you know, has he suspended?
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
And the web page didn't show any way for me.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
To actually access the document.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
And then after sitting there for at least thirty seconds,
a little password field opened up.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I don't know, it's like government work, right, you're gonna
have that. It's actually a private website and it's just
his report card. And it's fine. I told my kid.
I told my kid, look.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
If you.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Oh, all right and backup, deep breath. I've been a
little frustrated with my kids grades for a couple of years.
You know, we're talking like C plus average, and I'm
not gonna say he's the smartest kid in the world.
But he's smarter than that. And I felt like he

(08:22):
just wasn't working hard enough, too much time on video games.
And again, all of this is a bad parenting, I understand. Nevertheless,
it is what it is, as they say. And I've
been looking for ways to incentivize him to work harder and.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Do better.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
So I think two things have happened. First of all,
he still plays a lot of video games. He plays
this Fortnite game quite a lot, and and he wins
money at it.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
He's he's you know.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'm not gonna say he's the best in the country,
but he's he's in that group of some of the
top players in the country, good enough to you know,
come in e or tenth or fiftieth in tournaments of
ten thousand people.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
That kind of you know, that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
And the thing is that's where his friends are. That's
where his friends are. He has friends at school, but
not very many, and he doesn't hang out with them
outside of school. His real friends are the people he
plays Fortnite with. And actually, over the last several days,
four of them, all from outside of Colorado, came to

(09:37):
stay at our house. They're all a little bit older
than my kid, But I really like them.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I think they're good role models. Most even the.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Ones who have dropped out of college, I actually think
are good role models. One of them is an electrician
and working his way up to eventually become a master electrician.
One of them joined the Navy and is now in
some kind of Navy school in South Carolina where he's
learning about engineering nuclear reactors. And it's the kind of

(10:12):
thing where like the notes they take in class are classified,
and they have to write the word classified on the
note cards and then take the notes and they're not
allowed to take the note cards out. They have to
leave them because they're classified.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
That's another.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
So that's one another one of the kids, and then
another one is studying applied mathematics at the University of Colorado. Now,
like really smart kids who are doing things with their lives.
Some of them, you know, college, some of them working hard,
and I think they're I.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Think they are really good role models.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
For him.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I wasn't planning on talking about this at all, but
this is what this is life, right, and so that's
really good. And it seemed like he was a little
bit motivated. The other thing that I did, and I
realized this may be a little bit close to like
spoiling your kid, and I admit it.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
But I said to him, if you.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Get no c's, all right, only a's and b's, only
a's and b's, we'll buy you a used car, which
I want to do anyway, because I'm tired of driving
the kid around and I don't think he can get
parking at school, so he probably won't be able to

(11:32):
drive himself to school. But for example, he takes acting classes,
he can drive himself to that.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
He's got friends, he can drive himself to hang out
with friends.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
So I said, if you get only a's and b's,
will buy you a used car.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And he got only a's and b's. It worked now.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
It was one A and the rest were some form
of B, you know, ranging from B plus to B minus.
But that's okay, that's okay. The B plus was in
an AP class. You get extra credit towards your GPA
because it's an AP class because is.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
A very hard class. So you know what I'm I'm
proud of him. I'm proud of him, and he he he.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Knows that I was basically a straight A student my
whole life, except for my first semester in college.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I got bad grades.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
My first semester in college because I didn't realize how
hard it was going to be. And then you know,
that kicked me in the butt. And for the rest
of college, I got straight a's except for a B
plus and a class taught by a big new Bvirginski,
the former National Security Advisor, and I was really pissed
that I got a B plus in that class. Anyway,
my kid knows I have these very lofty expectations, but

(12:40):
I tried not to put them on him, and I
think I'm doing better at that, and we're getting along
better when it comes to talking about school. And I
told him I'm proud of him, right and I look again, he's.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Not listening right now.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
So I can say this, like, if I got those
grades he got, I'd be disappointed in myself.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
You know, basically most in one A that wouldn't have
been good enough for me.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
But I can't put that on him, and I can't
have him feeling down and feeling like I'm down on him.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And I finally.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Feel like the kid is close to doing close to
not all the way there, but close to doing the
best he can and that's all I want to ask
of my kid. I already admitted that when things are
not going the way I think they should be with
my kids, that it's probably my fault. I've said that repeatedly,

(13:33):
and I've said it for years. So I don't think
you I need you to text me that I should
be ashamed, because I kind of know that already kind
of know that already. Following up on something I shared
earlier in the show, a piece from one of the
best sources of news quote unquote news.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
The Babylon b.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
The Babylon b Uh just put out this news report
quote following its poor performance in the attack outside the
Trump Hotel in Las Vegas this week, the Tesla cybertruck
was unanimously voted worst vehicle by members of the National
Association of Terrorist Car Bombers. The group took an official

(14:16):
survey of its membership after the Trump Hotel bombing, with
a startling one hundred percent of responders giving the cyber
truck the lowest possible score for its suitability for the
association's work. Terrible job, hard pass, said Anthony Larson, vice
president of the NATCB. While other manufacturers do a great
job of designing vehicles that perform well during terrorist bombing attacks.

(14:39):
TESLA has really dropped the ball with the cyber truck.
It has shown itself to be completely inadequate for our needs.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Not sure what.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Elon Musk and his team were thinking when making this one.
Other members of the organization were equally disappointed. Quote it's
almost as if Tesla gave no consideration to how the
cyber truck would do when into a weapon of mass destruction,
said Anwar al Habib.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
How are we.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Supposed to use this vehicle to kill innocent, unsuspecting people
when the bomb blast barely makes it out of the cab. Ridiculous.
Give me an old windowless dodge van, thank you. It
goes on from there, but I will I will leave
it there. I think that is Yeah, that's that's the
news of the day. That's the news of the day.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I actually want to take a moment here hand.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I gotta find this thing to follow up on something
that that that Chad Bauer just talked about.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
And I'm just looking for the story here and that
is the yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
And I'm gonna mention this now and I'm gonna come
back to it later in the show.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Again.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
New York Times version the headline Surgeon General calls for
cancer warnings on alcohol.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
This is a really interesting story.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Now.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
There have been attempts at warnings like I think cancer
warnings on alcohol in the past, and of course course
the industry is enormous and very powerful, and very powerful
with concentrations in certain states. You can imagine when Mitch
McConnell was in charge of Republicans in the Senate's and he's.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Not anymore, still influential.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Imagine how big the alcohol industry is in Kentucky, where
he's from, but lots of places, I mean, Colorado is
huge beer industry and now distilling as well.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
So there have been some efforts in the past to try.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
To put some warning labels, and those have always been
fought off. The New York Times puts it like this,
alcohol is a leading preventable cause of cancer, and alcoholic
beverages should carry a warning label as packs of cigarettes do.
The US Surgeon General said on Friday that would be today.
It is the latest salvo in a fierce debate about

(16:50):
the risks and benefits of moderate drinking. As the influential
US dietary guidelines for Americans, those words are all capitalized
are about to be updated for decades. Moderate drinking was
said to help prevent heart.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Attacks and strokes.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
That perception has been embedded in the dietary advice given
to Americans, but growing research is linked drinking sometimes even
within the recommended limits to various types of cancer.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Labels currently affixed.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
To bottles and cans of alcoholic beverages worn about drinking
wine while pregnant or before driving or operating other machinery.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
And about general health risks.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
But according to the Surgeon General, alcohol directly contributes to
one hundred thousand cancer cases and twenty thousand related deaths
each year, and he said in an interview that his
name is Vivic Murphy. He said, many people out there
assume that as long as they're drinking at the limits
or below the limits of current guidelines of one to
day for women too, for men, there's no risk to

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their health or aware or well being.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
But the data does not bear that out for cancer risk.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
So I suspect that this isn't going anywhere. But but
keep in mind, this is kind of interesting, right when
you think of when you think about a regulatory mindset,
you think about the Biden administration as wanting to regulate

(18:23):
absolutely everything they can possibly think of. And you think
about Donald Trump as pretty much of a deregulator, right,
I don't want to I want to overgeneralize, but roughly,
but keep this in mind.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Trump doesn't drink and doesn't do drugs.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
If I remember the story correctly, Trump attributes his brother's
death to alcohol. His brother died when Trump was much younger.
I don't remember the details of the story, but my
vague recollection hearing about this at some point in the past,
or I think I think I read a biography of
Trump at some point years ago before he was running

(19:04):
for president, a long time ago, and and he because
he attributed his brother's death to alcohol.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
And someone can text me if I have the story wrong.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
At a fairly young age, he just like he swore
off alcohol, not drinking. And it wasn't like you know,
George W. Bush, who was a partier when he was
young and then clean living later like Trump has never
been a drinker, doesn't do drugs either. And RFK Junior,

(19:35):
I don't know if RFK Junior will actually end up
getting confirmed to be the head of HHSA. I hope
he doesn't actually, but but RFK Junior was a big
time drinker and drug user years ago and hasn't done
that stuff, or he says he hasn't done that stuff

(19:57):
for a long time, and and he said that he
frequently goes to AA meetings. So now you might have
a president and head of Health and Human Services who
aren't fans of alcohol, and you could potentially see especially
if the next Surgeon General looks at the same data

(20:20):
that Vivic Murphy is looking at and decides he or
she wants to continue down the road. And I don't remember,
it's a woman. I don't remember her name. Trump is
nominated a woman. Oh gosh, I'm blanking on her name.
And she has unusual qualifications, not the kind of person
you'd normally think of as as as surgeon general. I'm

(20:40):
not saying she's a bad choice. I'm just saying an
unusual choice. What's the last name dragon?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
A dragon?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
What's the last name Shannon? Yeah, that sounds right. I
remember it was a last name that I wasn't exactly sure. Yeah,
something like that. Yeah, that sounds like her. Do you
have any information on her in whatever you're reading right now,
does it say anything about her?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Wherever you're whatever you're looking at.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Shannon's researching on his phone as we talk, Niche you
what am I saying?

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I guess go with it?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Uh incoming administration, Keeping America healthy medical doctor and former
Fox News contributor.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, he loves anybody who's been on TV. But her
medical doctor stuff is.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I forget.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
It's like very community oriented and whatever. Well let's keep
going here. So, uh, I don't know, I don't I
don't know what will happen one To me, the thing
that's most interesting is how often it happens that we
are told, don't eat.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
This thing, it's bad for you, have.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
This other stuff instead, and then at some point, maybe
because of data and maybe because of some fad, people
then turn against the replacement. One example, when I was
a kid, and actually even before, even before I was
a kid, people decided that butter was bad for you, right,

(22:04):
and it you know, it solidifies at room temperature and
it's fat and it's gonna cloud your arteries and all this.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
So they started pushing margarine.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
And this actually goes way back, and there's all kinds
of If you read the history of margarine, it's disgusting,
it's really real. There's this all kinds of gross, like
black margarine and oh anyway, anyway, so when I was
a kid, my mom, My mom is a pediatrician, and
of course she's on top of.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
All the newest health stuff for kids. That's her job.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
And so when we were growing up, we didn't have
butter in the house.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
We had margarine.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
And then later we learned butter's better for you than marjarine.
And my mom listen, now I'm talking decades later, like
when I'm a full grown adult, like ten years ago
or something. My mom said, boy, Ross, I need to
apologize to you for giving you margarine all those years.
It wasn't better, It's probably worse. And what about artificial

(23:00):
sweeteners right now? Now there's some talk that you know,
even not sacharine, which a lot of people have caught
thought of as a cancer, as a carcinogen, but some
of the other ones.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
People are saying, don't have this one, don't have that one.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Probably you know, I'm not saying, like drink five Mountain dews, each.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Of which has forty something grams of sugar in it.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
But like you're gonna put something in your tea or
coffee you could put a tea spoon of sugar instead
of the artificial sweeten. And people are looking at that
now and saying the sugar might be better for you.
And people have been looking at the whole food pyramid
thing and now saying and that's wrong too, and of

(23:39):
course the alcohol things. So let me get back to this.
So it's been common wisdom for some years now that
a small amount of alcohol every day, no, not every day,
A small amount of alcohol during your life doesn't have

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to be every day. A drink a week, couple drinks
a week, maybe a drink a day is beneficial to
reduce heart attacks?

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Let me quote again from the New York Times piece.
There's no question that heavy consumption of alcohol is harmful,
but supporters of moderate drinking, including unsurprisingly people who make wine,
beer and spirits, and some physicians and scientists, argue that
a little bit of alcohol each day may reduce cardiovascular disease,

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the number one killer in the United States. Newer scientific
studies have criticized the methodology of earlier studies, however, and
have challenged that view, which was once a consensus. You
know what, this also reminds me of a little bit.
How about all of those scientific quote unquote studies funded

(24:52):
by Kellogg's that magically concluded that breakfast.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Was the most importan and meal of the day. Is
it We all probably think it is. We were all
raised to think it is, and it was marketed.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
In a brilliant way like, yeah, you get up and
you have breakfast, and that's like charging your battery for
the rest of the day. And you don't want to
be running on a low battery in the first half
of the day, or to not have food to lunch,
not have energy to lunch, or or till dinner. Of
course you want breakfast.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Is that right? We all think it.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I don't know if it's right, The Surgeon General said, again,
this is from this morning. While most cancer doths occur
at drinking levels that exceed the current recommended dietary guidelines,
the risk for cancers of the breast, mouth, and throat
may rise with consumption of as little as one.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Drink a day or even less.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Overall, Murphy said, one of every six breast cancer cases
is attributed to alcohol consumption. Now, I doubt that he
can prove that, and in fact, I kind of doubt
that it's true.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
If there's some association, but that's pretty enormous.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
More recent studies are.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Also linking moderate alcohol consumption to certain forms of heart disease,
including atrial fibrillation form of heart a rhythmium. So we'll
have to see what all the data show. But here's
another thing to keep in mind. And this is a
big problem, or let's say, a big challenge in almost

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any multivariate kind of science, by which I mean if
you are looking at a person's health or some subset
of a person's health, like did this person get cancer?
You can't just look at one thing. You can't just

(26:56):
look at how much does this person drink? Or the
ten thousand people or one hundred thousand people, how much
did each one of them drink on a weekly basis
or daily basis or whatever you're doing, and did the
person get cancer? And what kindy cancer? And then you
and then you, you know, run some kind of regression
and say, people who drank this much got cancer, and

(27:17):
therefore the drinking causes cancer.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
You could do that.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
If the only, if the only environmental and nutritional impact
you ever had on yourself was drinking. But what about
the possibility that people who drink more also do other
unhealthy things. Maybe they eat more unhealthy food, maybe they smoke.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I know that not so many people smoke anymore, which
is great, but it's just very very hard to know.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Just sticking with this example, you know a bunch of
people who drank alcohol got breast cancer. Well, it's very
hard to know. Did they get breast cancer because they
drink alcohol or did they get breast cancer because of
something else they do or something else they do in
combinate that has a bad mix when also drinking alcohol,

(28:12):
and I don't mean necessarily at that same moment. How
do you know that the alcohol breast cancer thing is
causation and not correlation. Maybe it could be that a
lot of the people who drink alcohol do some other
things that tend to cause cancer, but now we're attributing
it to the alcohol in any case.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
In any case, the last time alcohol warning labels.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Were changed in the US was nineteen eighty eight. Nineteen
eighty eight, not very likely I think, to be changed again.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
And you can.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Imagine that all of the alcohol producing associations and lobbyists
are all getting spun up today and are all getting
their lobbyists through to go to Congress and say, don't
let them do this.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
It could be that the next Surgeon General drops it.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
It could be.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
That the next president doesn't want to go down that road.
But as deregulatory minded as Trump is, given his dislike
for alcohol and Robert F.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Kennedy's as well, can't rule it out. Can't rule it out.
All right, let me do a local thing.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
This was over at Denveright dot com, so you're probably
aware of this, especially if you.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Live in Denver.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
But the city has something that they call a Fair
Elections Fund, and it's designed to be.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
A way for.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Candidates for political office in Denver who are not rich
to be able to have enough money to compete in
a campaign against rich candidates or candidates with rich friends,
candidates with with higher end donors.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
And basically, the way it works.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
And I'm going to oversimplify for a second, but the
way it works is that if you become part of
the program, the Fair Elections Fund.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Then.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
If you raise a dollar, that fund will give you
nine dollars.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Is that amazing nine dollars?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Right?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
So you raise a thousand, they give you nine thousand.
Each individual contribution could.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Earn up to four hundred and fifty four hundred and.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Fifty dollars in matching funds, which would be if someone
donated fifty bucks. So it's trying to encourage small dollar
donors to not very highly funded candidates.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
But Mike Johnston, Mike Johnson, the.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Mayor, who had very rich funders, did participate and got
more than six hundred thousand dollars in taxpayer dollars for
his campaign.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
And as Denver I puts.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It, meanwhile, an independent committee supporting him received record breaking
donations from out of state billionaires. Also, hundreds of thousands
of dollars in taxpayer money went to obscure and unopposed candidates.
Clerk and Recorder Paul Lopez from Denver got sixty two
thousand dollars from this fund, even though his opponent dropped

(31:30):
out of the race really early in the race and
he essentially ran unopposed, and he's still got sixty two
thousand taxpayer dollars. And the reason I mentioned this whole
thing to you, look, I don't hate the concept, Okay,
I mean I don't like using taxpayer money for this stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
But I get it.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
If you're going to be in a liberal city and
you want to encourage ordinary people to try to run
for office and have a way to compete against highly
funded people.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
At least make the plan work right.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Don't let people like Mike Johnston participate. He doesn't need
the money. It's just siphoning tax payer money. Don't let
people who are unopposed have any money.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
The City Council wants to change some of this right now.
One of the things.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
That they want to change that I just wanted to
mention briefly is that they want I'm gonna read from denveright.
They want to ensure that people running the debates for
the candidates who are part of the fund don't have
ties to any of the candidates. Also require that debate
stages are wheelchair accessible. And then they say, or Amanda
Sawyer on the City Council says, debate moderators questions have

(32:37):
to be fair, they have to be neutral. Now what
exactly does that mean. I get that the City Council
wants to modify this program and make it better, and
they sure should, But the idea of them saying that
as part of this we are going to start regulating
debate moderators that's.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Going too far, all right.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
We got to still have a ton of stuff to
do on today's show.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
So.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Let's talk actually, let's talk weather and traffic for a
little bit, just for a moment.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
So fortunately we are where we are geographically. Over the
next week or so, the Denver area will probably be
at roughly normal temperatures for this time of year. You
heard Chad say we're gonna get a little snow and
so on, but you know, it's January. It's supposed to

(33:30):
be a little bit cold, a little bit snowy. I mean,
I think it's supposed to be in the fifties today, but.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Kind of normal weather.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
But as you move east from here, there's gonna be
another one of these things that they call.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
The polar vortex. And so I wanted to mention it
to you for a couple of reasons.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
One, it's interesting, and two, if you, for some reason
are going to be traveling to the East coast, or
if you're listening to me on the East coast right now,
you need to be aware of this. If you're living
on the East coast, especially southeast, you're probably already aware
of it. But not just East, actually Midwest, southern Midwest.
So let me go to This is from the USA

(34:09):
Today's Network. A massive winter storm will sweep across the
country this week, bringing snow and ices at heads toward
the Atlantic coast.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
But that's not all.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Forecast call for the coldest Arctic temperatures seen in years,
in what's described as a polar vortex. They quote somebody
called Paul Pasteloc, whose title is the lead long range
expert at Acuweather, and he says this could end up
being the coldest January since twenty eleven for the US

(34:39):
as a whole. I will note, by the way, that
December was one of the warmer Decembers that we've.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Had in some time.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
This looks like it could be a very cold January,
especially east of US. Right over the next week, if
you're west of US, temperatures will actually be warmer than normal.
And that's actually associated with the reason that the polar
vortex is gonna happen, And so the West Coast and
Alaska warmer than normal, but the East Coast is gonna

(35:08):
be an issue. The Northeast is under or has been under,
a wind advisory high winds fifty miles per hour, which
is maybe not a lot for around here, but it's
a lot for Pennsylvania and New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
And let's see.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
ACU Weather predicts that although each layer of cold air
coming may cut short of the most extreme conditions of
the last ten to fifteen years, the number of days
spent below historical averages will add up. So anyway, I
don't have a lot more detail because we've got to
see how it plays out.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
But the bottom line.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Is once you get to let's say, the eastern half
of the Dakotas and Nebraska and Kansas.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
And Oklahoma, and then once you.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Get east of that, you're gonna be at below to
far below average temperatures for everything from like the southern
part of Wisconsin all the way down all the way
across through Pennsylvania, and all the way down through most
of Florida.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
And we'll see.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I mean, remember what happened in Texas when I don't
think they're supposed to get these kinds of ice storms
and Texas not.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Supposed to be that cold this time.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
But remember what happened some of these places that are
not used to this weather, and they don't have their
systems weather proofed like we do here in Colorado and
then you end up with like people died in Texas
because their energy systems weren't weatherproofed.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Anyway, I just wanted you to be aware of it,
keep an eye on it.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
If you're going east, just be aware to expect temperatures
far below normal and staying that way for a while.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
The other thing I want to mention more locally is traffic.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Colorado Department of Transportation see says that.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
I'll share this with you.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
The color Department Transportation is predicting a high chance of
record breaking traffic along the I seventy Mountain Carridor this
coming weekend.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I didn't realize this next bit.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Sea dot keeps a historical log of traffic data, especially
along this major corridor, to help predict the amount of
traffic anticipated on any given weekend throughout the winter season.
Looking at data from the twenty nineteen twenty twenty season,
when New Year's was last celebrated as a Wednesday, a
few records were set at the Eisenhower Johnson Memorial Tunnels
for traffic counts and volume. In twenty twenty, the Colorado

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Mountains experienced major snowstorms leading into the holiday, while this
season the mountains will experience a series of smaller events
bringing snow each day, regardless the amount of the amount
of snow coming in Sea Dot predicts that these smaller
snow events will still drive ski traffic, which will be
combined with holiday travel, creating a recipe for heavy traffic.

(38:00):
I'm not going to go through all the data, but
just to give you a sense of the kind of
data points that they capture. So in twenty twenty, Friday,
January third had the highest ever combined eastbound and westbound
hourly count through the tunnels, with d and fifty nine
vehicles traveling through at six p m.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
That's an example of the kind of data.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
They say, while traffic counts could vary this weekend compared
to twenty twenty, there's a high chance that traffic counts
and volumes will be similar to or may exceed the
records set four years ago.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
So then they go through and just.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Say like, well, you could book a ticket on a
busting or snowstaying or pegasustic dot bus services where you
get free Wi Fi and other conveniences. You could take
the Winter Park Express train right. You could what tread
share app, so you can carpool to these destinations or

(38:55):
go somewhere else or whatever. In any case, just want
you to be aware of that. If if you're gonna
be traveling to a ski mountain over the next over
this weekend, essentially, just be prepared for really, really terrible
traffic and maybe try to drive at a time when
traffic would be a little bit less when we come back.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
When we come back, I want to.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Talk briefly about how Elon Musk has thrown a huge
monkey wrench into British politics. I intentionally put this in
a part of the show where I only have a
little over five minutes to talk about it because I
don't want to talk about it for too long because
it's pretty heavy, and also I don't know exactly how

(39:41):
many Americans will care.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
But I think this is a fascinating story, and.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
The new twist on it is how Elon Musk has
just thrown a flash bang grenade into the middle of
British politics. Now this revolves around some story that I
have not talked about on the show in recent years.
I mentioned them some years ago. There were a few
towns in northern England. Rotherham is one of them. Rochdale

(40:10):
is another one, but Rotherham was the first one I
heard about R. O. T. H.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
R Ham.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
And what happened in these towns is there were these
gangs of Pakistani men. Some of them were born in
Britain and some of them weren't born in Britain, but
Pakistani men who were like enticing pre teen and teen
girls to come to their homes or like shisha bars,

(40:37):
or into their taxi cabs and sexually assaulting them or
raping them, sometimes.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Getting them drunk.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
And the police in these towns were afraid to go
after any of these guys because they were afraid to
be called racist or is Lamophobic. As these gangs of
Pakistani men were raping young girls, I said Wikiped. He
has said that most of the victims were white.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I don't know if that's true. And by the way,
I'm also.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Not saying that all Muslim men do this, where all
Pakistani men do this.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
I am simply saying these were gangs.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Of Pakistani or British Pakistani men who were doing this
in England and the local police and city councils did
nothing because they are a lot of Pakistanis in their
districts and they're afraid of losing elections and afraid of
being called racist. Now this next thing I'm gonna share
with you. I actually the man who speaking looks to

(41:34):
me to be in his sixties. I don't know who
he is, and I don't know how old this story is,
but I want you to hear.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
It made your family stories well.

Speaker 7 (41:46):
The very first was from a grandfather who rang from Rotherham.
He wanted to talk about his granddaughter. One month after
her sevteenth birthday, shed gone to school and then gone missing,
and the school had drunk her mum, who'd immediately wrung
the police, who'd said, don't worry, love, she'll turn up.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
As soon as she gets hungry.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
She didn't turn up that afternoon, that evening, and at
two thirty in the morning the next morning, a woman
on the other side of Rotherham who picked up the
phone and dulled nine ninety nine because she'd heard a
young girl screaming in the house next door.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Police had gone round to the house.

Speaker 7 (42:28):
They found this thirteen year old girl with another young girl.
She was almost completely naked, she was blind, drunk, and
she was with seven adult Pakistani men.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
She was drunken.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
Leary and southwilk police arrested the thirteen year old girl
for being drunk and disorderly. They took her back to
the station, put her in the cells, eventually charged her,
and she was convicted. They didn't even question the men
as to why they were in a house with a

(43:01):
thirteen year old girl who was nearly naked in the
areas of the morning.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I mean, it's mind boggling, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Like if you read that in a thriller novel as
to what the you know, the bad organization was doing,
and the good guy is going to go stop him,
you would say, that's so.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
It's ridiculous. I wouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
That wouldn't happen where the police show up at a
house and there's and there's seven adult men, seven adult
men with two drunk, naked thirteen year old girls, and
the police arrest the girls rather than the man. You
say that that's stupid. I don't believe that plot.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
In a book.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I'm gonna put this book away and get a book
that's more, you know, I at least want to believe
the plot. A little bit that happened repeatedly for twenty years,
or at least fifteen years in at least two or
three towns in England, and these gangs were allowed to

(44:03):
just keep going on sexually assaulting and raping girls.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Now, why does this come up?

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Now, this apparently stopped about ten years ago, but it
started in the nineties, right, I mean, it's so shameful. Well,
the local police have jurisdiction to chase down these claims
and find the perpetrators and arrest people and so on,
but the prosecutions are done by the government through something

(44:34):
called the Crown prosecutor, the Crown Prosecution Service CPS, and
the Crown Prosecution Service apparently was reticent to bring charges,
to bring these cases because they were afraid of being
called racist.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
And Islamophobic, disgusting, like the kind of thing that is
the most.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Massive betrayal of public trust you can imagine saying, I'm
not We're not going to bring charges against dozens.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Of rapists of young girls because.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
They're Muslim and they have dark brown skin, and we're
afraid that what people will call us if we bring
these cases. Well, the guy who was running the Crown
Prosecution Service from I think it's two thousand and eight
or so to twenty thirteen, right, some of the key
years in.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
This is the guy who's now the Prime Minister of
the UK.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
His name is kir Starmer, and Elon Musk pointed that out.
And Elon Musk is causing a lot of trouble in
English politics. The Labor Party, which is their version of
the Democrats, and that's who ker Starmer is running right now.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
They have blocked an.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Inquiry into Kre Starmer's conduct while he was running the
Crown Prosecution Service, while they were investigating you know, they're
actually they're still investigating all.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
This stuff and.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Other people currently in the Labor government are refusing to
launch what they call a public inquiry into these sexual
abuse gangs. Now they are saying this is for the
locals to do, not for the central government to do.
And there is something to say about that, because even
the previous Conservative government made that argument as well. But
at some point, when nobody's doing anything, it does seem

(46:31):
like the kind of thing, especially because they don't have
a federal system of states rights and all that, it's
just one thing. Somebody's got to look into it. Somebody's
got to look into it. So now the Conservatives there
saying we need an investigation. I think Keer Starmer is
not going to be Prime Minister much longer. His approval

(46:53):
levels are already like twelve percent and he's only been
in power six months. And now you add this, I
don't think he's going to be around for law and
Elon Musk will have taken another scalp. This is a
headline from National Review, Joe Biden blocks Nippon Steele's purchase
of US Steel. And this is an area where Joe
Biden and Donald Trump think very similarly, and they're both

(47:14):
very wrong and dumb. So Biden, according to National Review,
issued in order today, barring Nippon Steele's purchase of US Steel,
a fourteen billion dollar purchase by.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
The way, under national security reasons.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
And here's what Biden said, it's my solemn responsibility as
president to ensure that now and long into the future,
America has a strong, domestically owned and operated steel industry
that can continue to power our national sources of strength
at home and abroad. He added, US Steel will remain
a proud American company, one that's American owned, American operated
by American union steel workers, the best in the world.

(47:53):
And there's an organization called Sciphius CFI US and it
stands for the Committee on Foreign Investment.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
In the United States, and it's made up.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Of people from various different government agencies, and they're supposed
to look at national security implications of proposed transactions that
involve non American companies buying American companies or building things

(48:28):
in America. According to National Review, the committee did not
make them a recommendation on.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Whether the proposed purchase should be allowed to go through.
The panel did voice some concerns.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
About the takeovers national security implications, which Biden referenced in
his statements.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
So I just want to tackle this for a minute.
This is a really bad decision. We're talking about a
factory that's in the US.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Okay, so we're talking about it's going to be American workers.
It would be yes, it would be Japanese owned. It
would be purchased by a company that is based in Japan,
which is one of our closest and most reliable allies
since World War Two, since we knew to them, they
have been among our best allies, most reliable allies, really

(49:15):
important allies, a really important economy as well, and key
to our national security posture in that part of the world.
And what exactly would a Japanese company do that could
hurt the national security of the United States of America
if they owned a steel factory in the United States
that they're running with American workers. In fact, probably American

(49:37):
union workers would continue to work there.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
It's very hard to imagine.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
You could more easily imagine what if there's a huge
war and then there's some kind of problem in Japan's
like neutral or on the other side, Well, our government
would just take that factory and do whatever they need
to do with it.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
The idea that somehow being owned by a.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Japanese company poses a threat to the the US is stupid.
Remember nip Nippon Steel is they are more advanced and
more efficient in their manufacturing processes.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Than US Steel is. So if Nippon Steele bought US Steel.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
They could bring some of their expertise, they could bring
some of the you know, the ways they do business
and actually allow US Steel to produce steel for a
lower price and become more competitive, so they could sell
more steel in the US and overseas and create more
jobs that way. And instead, what's probably gonna happen is

(50:38):
that US Steel is going to slowly wither away under
the dead weight of American labor unions and old ways
of doing things. And remember, labor unions always impede new
ways of doing things because they always find a reason
to say the new way of doing things is going
to cost jobs, even when the new way of doing

(50:58):
things either has an cause jobs in other examples, or
whether what you have is all right. You have the
same number of jobs for a while, and then you
have no jobs at all because the company goes out
of business. And there is no legitimate national security argument here,
there's no legitimate economic argument here. There's no legitimate argument

(51:21):
of any kind of any kind to block the Nippon
Steel takeover of US Steel. It should have been allowed.
And here's the main point. Even if it were like
neutral for America, it should have been allowed. It would
be good for America. Blocking it is bad for America.
Joe Biden is an econo moron, and on certain things like.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
This, Donald Trump is no better.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
So Donald Trump is not gonna come in and change
Joe Biden's rule because remember Donald Trump is also thinking
that he's not running again, but that he and his
supporters and future MAGA candidates are going to be pandering
to union workers, which used to be a thing that

(52:08):
only Democrats did, but now Republicans are And I get it.
That's politics. You've got to try to put together whatever
coalition will work for you.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
But this is a terrible decision and it's going to
be bad for us steal to be bad for US steel.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
So right now we are some.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Minutes away from the House of Representatives voting on who's
going to be Speaker of the House. Every member of
the House votes, and the winner is whoever has a
Let me make sure I have this right. The winner
is whoever has a majority of all votes cast for

(52:50):
a candidate by name. So the math changes you if
you just say I'm not going to vote. So what
we're hearing right now and I'm not sure who this
is who's speaking, but there's a female congresswoman who is nominating.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I think this.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I think these are the Republicans nominating Mike Johnson to
be speaker.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
We have an opportunity to do something about crime, We
have an opportunity to do something about the border, and
we have an opportunity to take care of our veterans.
We and every single member in this chamber, and those
of you watching at home and on TV should be

(53:41):
looking forward knowing that America will be respected again. Our
country is the last.

Speaker 9 (53:51):
Bastion of hope.

Speaker 8 (53:53):
If we fail, then who This is why we are
focused on the issues that the majority of Americans care about. God, family, country, faith, freedom,
and traditional American values.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
All right, So this is Lisa McClain, who represents Michigan's
ninth congressional district, a Republican, giving the nominating speech for
Mike Johnson. Since we have a mayor Mike Johnston in Denver,
sometimes I switch their names with this. One is Mike Johnson.
He's a Republican from Where's he from? Louisiana?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
So that was very interesting what she said. It was
very interesting.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, Mike Johnson is fourth District of Louisiana. She said,
we hear as Republicans are, we're going to do this
and that, and we're focused on the things that Americans
care about most. And I thought then she was going
to say getting the cost of living under control, but
she said God, and I look, I know that a
lot of Americans are devout and deeply care about God

(55:11):
in their own personal lives, their faith, raising their children,
their community and all of that. Is that really the
first thing that even devoutly religious people want members of
Congress to be thinking about God versus national defense, you know, inflation,

(55:34):
cost of living, trade wars, you know, shooting wars.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
That was kind of weird, and I was kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Anyway, they're gonna do this nomination and then they'll vote.
We have good reason to believe that Congressman Thomas Massey,
Republican of Kentucky, who's become it was always something of
a wild man and has become a complete and utter
renegade and a just complete fu to everybody around him,

(56:03):
has said he's going to vote no.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Now they can only lose.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Two votes, I think, and Massey has already said he's
gonna vote no. I don't know if he'll change his mind.
I don't know if he'll only vote no on the
first round and then come around later. I wouldn't surprise
me if he stays as a no.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
And I think.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
That means they could lose one other and John's and
then if everybody else votes for Mike Johnson.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Then he'll he'll be Speaker of the House. And there
are a.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Bunch of people from the Freedom Caucus. Chip Roy, folks
like that Andy Biggs, who you know, they're always praying
for the cameras, they're putting on a show, putting on
a show for their own constituents, and a lot of
some of what they say, especially chip Roy, especially Chip Roy,
they actually believe.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
I don't know about Andy Biggs. I don't have much
faith in him.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
I think Chip Roy is the principal guy, and I
think he believes a lot or most of what.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
He says and does.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
But we also have to remember that politics is the
art of the possible, and sometimes it is a very difficult.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Challenge to balance.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Here's what I think is the right thing, Here's what
I think can actually get done, which isn't all that
much of the right thing? Is it better than nothing?
Is it better enough that I'm going.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
To vote for it or not?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
And these are difficult questions, These are honestly, honestly difficult questions,
just for like little fair and balance. Here, let's take
just a moment in a second. Here there's a lot
of applause right now, but what we'll hear for a
second is is King Jefferies being nominated by a Democrat

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to be Speaker of the House.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Let's just listen for a moment.

Speaker 10 (57:46):
Yes, to place a name and nomination, But first I
want to acknowledge my colleague from Michigan for her heartfelt
and personal nominating speech.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
As someone who's given a few.

Speaker 10 (57:57):
Of these, I can say, you served your caucus, your conference. Well,
representatives of Saint.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Pete Aguilar from California, who's talking right now, he's congratulating
the Republican today.

Speaker 10 (58:08):
I rise on behalf of the governing majority of the
House of Representatives.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Now that's an interesting line. I'll come back to it
in a second.

Speaker 10 (58:28):
The American people have sent a strong message that they
want their elected leaders working together to tackle the affordability crisis.
There is only one leader in this chamber with the
track record of compromise, conviction, and compassion.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
There is only one leader who understands the.

Speaker 10 (58:49):
Needs of the working people and has lived the American
dream himself and has committed to ensuring its promise for
future generations.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
All right, there, he's he's putting Hakim Jeffries of New
York his name in denomination to be Speaker of the House.
And you know, typically the party of the President loses
seats in the midterm election, which would be in a
couple of years, and with Republicans only have a two
having a two seat majority, history would tend to predict.
Of course, anything can happen, especially with Trump around, Absolutely

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anything can happen.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Uh But based on history, you would.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Expect that that Democrats would have the majority in the
next Congress. And at that time, Kim Jefferies will be
Speaker of the House. If he's still alive, he will
be Speaker of the House. Uh So that's interesting. I
want to go back. That was an amazing thing he said.
He said, you know, I rise for the for the
governing majority, and and that's just a massive thumb in

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the eye of Republicans in the House of Representatives. Basically,
what he's saying is, yeah, those guys that are the
majority guys in gals, they're the majority, but they're so
dysfunctional that they can't really govern. And what he's saying there,
and he really threw that as a bomb right into

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the middle of the Republicans. What he's saying is, you've
got these conservative Republicans who are just going to vote
no on everything because they think it plays well for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Them at home. And you know, it gets some.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Plaudits on right wing Twitter, so they vote no on stuff.
And because Republicans have such a small majority without you know,
the three or five or eight or twelve, you know,
hardcore conservative rebel rousers who vote no even when almost
all the you know, even when you've got two hundred

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and you know, two hundred and five Republicans voting yes,
you got thirteen vote no. It torpedoes the thing unless
unless they can put together something with Democrats and in
order to get enough Democrat votes to then pass the thing,
because the Democrats know they have all the leverage. At
that point, the Democrats get a lot, the Democrats get

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too much.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
And then and then the Conservatives get even mad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Or they're like, oh, man, he worked with Democrats and
this has this Democrat provision, and that it has the
Democrat provision because you didn't vote for it. And so
what this guy is saying is that Republicans are so
dysfunctional that even though we're in the minority, we the Democrats,
we're really governing the place.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
He's not wrong, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
It's gonna be really interesting to see whether that message
resonates when they have this vote, which should be pretty soon.
It'll be during this show, and I'll tell you what happens.
Maybe we'll try to take some audio at the time
when they're doing the final bit of counting the vote
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
But if Republicans want to kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Slap him down, what they should do is make sure
that they vote in Mike Johnson to be Speaker of
the House on the first round. And as I said earlier,
you might get a few Republicans, not just Thomas Massey,
you might get some others who want to try to
prove a point to somebody, to conservative Twitter, who vote
no against Mike Johnson on the first round, and there's

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no winner on the first round, and then they come
back and vote again and like, all right, I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Made my point. I'll vote for him this time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Or maybe there's some horse trading and he has to
promise somebody a seat on a committee and that kind
of thing. And that can happen when your majority.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Is this small.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
But the key today is not so much will Mike
Johnson be Speaker or not. There isn't a reasonable alternative Mike.
Mike Johnson's got to be speaker. There just isn't some
other good answer. But what this whole thing shows and

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what the last couple of weeks have shown, because actually
the Republican majority in the House in this Congress is
smaller than the Republican majority in the House a week ago, smaller,
and they couldn't do anything two weeks ago, three weeks ago,
whenever they were there last they couldn't do anything because
you had some of these conservatives voting no. So they

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had to do stuff with Democrats to get a few
things passed, and of course a lot of Conservatives and
Republicans get really pissed off.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Why are you working with Democrats?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
And so this is really going to be the challenge
going forward, not will Mike Johnson be speaker or not
he will, The question.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Is will.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Republicans prove a King Jeffery's right that Democrats are actually
the governing party. That would be a shame, wouldn't it.
That would be a shame. Let me switch gears. This
is a fun piece from the Colorado Sun and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Something that has me thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
So, as you've been driving around in Colorado over the
last year or so, you've probably seen a lot of
license plate styles that you hadn't seen in a long time,
including blue license plates, solid blue plus whatever color of
the writing is on solid red. And then the one
you're seeing all over the place. These all black license plates,
and depending on the color of your car, especially if

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you have a black.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Car, they look very dramatic. They look very cool. I
really like them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
And there's a bunch of other license plates.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
They've reintroduced some old.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
License plates as well, like the one that's like the
lower three quarters is green and the top of the
green bars is the Mountain range and it's white above that, right,
they reintroduced that one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
In any case, these things they have a fee.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Attached to them, and according to the Colorado Sun, the
Colorado Disability Opportunity Office, called see DO among government officials,
will give out five million dollars this year to organizations
working to support people with disabilities. The office was created
by the legislature in June, and its inaugural director, Danny Combs,

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is the father of a son with autism and a
founder of a trade school at Angle With that teaches
young people with autism how to become auto mechanics, welders, carpenters,
and electricians. The office gets twenty five dollars per retro
license plate sold. These include the long popular green Mountains
on a white sky, as well as the reintroduced white

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Colorado on a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Solid blue background, on a red.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Background, and the most popular on a black background. The
three plates dating to nineteen fourteen, nineteen fifteen, and nineteen
forty five had been retired and were brought back into
circulation in twenty twenty one. About twenty percent of Colorado's
have one or more disabilities, and according to this new office,
and so they're using the money from these license plates

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to fun different things, to you know, benefit people with
uh with with disabilities. And I'm really kind of torn
about it. I'm kind of torn about it. I'm look,
I get a local government. You can do what you want.
In the state government, you can do what you want.
You can do this stuff. It's you can't really object
in principle against things that state and local governments do

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to the same degree that you can against the federal government,
which is supposed to be limited by our constitution. State
and local government's not so much.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
This office.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
By the way, they've announced another two million dollars in grants.
They're going to hire another couple of employees. And just
the thing I wonder and I don't want to be
too you know, scrooge about it, But should Coloradens have
to spend an extra twenty five bucks to go benefit

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some charity that some politician wants to benefit because you
want to register your car with a particular license plate?

Speaker 9 (01:06:49):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Is that right that it should cost you twenty five
dollars more to get a plate that doesn't cost the
state anything more? I assume at least not twenty five
dollars more? Or is it just fine?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Is just fine? This is a good cause. The state
can do what they want. People.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
There's no constitutional right to get the license plate.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
That looks exactly like what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
There's there's a regular license plate you can.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Choose for no.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Additional fee, and if you want these, then pay the fee.
And this is what we're gonna do with it. Anyway,
I was, I was thinking about that. I was, I
was kind of struggling with a little bit, and I'm
actually not sure what my position is on it, but
I thought I would share the story with you because
it's kind of interesting. I actually didn't know. I actually
didn't know that that's where the fee went. But that
office is giving out five million dollars this year to

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help people with disabilities find jobs, live at home, and
so on, and and that part I think is great.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
An attorney you wouldn't want to be on the other
side of.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
My friend Mike Berg.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Another attorney you wouldn't want to be on the other
side of, although in a completely different area of law,
is civil rights attorney David Lane. And David David is
an interesting dude and takes interesting cases, and he and
I don't agree on everything, but we agree quite often
because I'm a very strong civil libertarian myself. And David

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is representing a gentleman named Kurt Dennis. The name might
sound familiar to you if you've been following.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Education issues here in the state.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
And I asked David to join the show to talk
about what's going on in the case.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
So David, welcome back to the show. It's good to
have you here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Well, thank you. I greatly appreciate the invitation.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
So justin first give us the very brief high level
overview of why Kurt Dennis is a klan.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
Kurt Dennis is a client because, as you recall, and
many of your listeners probably recall, he was the principal
of mccaulliff Middle School, which was basically considered the best
middle school, the highest performing middle school in the whole
Denver Public school system. You also may recall that two
administrators at East High School were shot by a student

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last year, and that student had previously been charged with
a violent felony. The DPS's policy is you let kids
that have what are called street charges for violent felonies
with guns. They are not taught remotely, they are allowed
to be back in school.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
They just get padded.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Down and followed during the day by administrators and did
not work at East High School very well. And an
administrator got shot by this particular student. Well, there was
a student at mcalliff Middle School who had been charged
with attempted murder. The gun went into a liquor store allegedly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
And shot the clerk during a robbery.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
That student was being allowed back into mcauliff Middle School
while charges were pending, and they were expected to search
him and follow him around all day. And Dennis said,
this is an insane policy. This is not safe, especially
in light of what happened at East High School. DPS,
you need to change your policy. And DPS said, nope,
we're not doing it. So Kurt Dennis went to nine

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News and gave an interview with a reporter from nine News,
explained to the public exactly what this insane policy entailed,
and Denver Public Schools then fired him in retaliation for
his free speech under the First Amendment of the United
States Constitution. He got fired. They also called him racist.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Which was just a atrocity.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
I mean, there were innumerable black families and Latino families
that came forward and said, no, this man is a
good man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
They smeared him, they fired him, and we filed the
civil rights lawsuit.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
The city of Denver, through Denver Public Schools, moved to
dismiss the case, and a very well respected federal judge,
John Cain took a long time, wrote, I believe, a
twenty seven page opinion resoundingly coming down on Kurt Dennis's side, saying, no,
this case is going on. Let the games begin. So

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that's where it's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
At, John, Yeah, John Kaine's been around a long time,
and as you say, well respected judge.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
I guess the school district was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Arguing that that your client broke some kind of privacy laws.
But when he went on nine News, he didn't give
identifying information about anybody right exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
The DPS through every defense they could think.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Of at the wall, nothing stuck, and one of them was, oh,
they late.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
He violated confidentiality by talking about this. Well, like you said,
no reports were handed over to nine News that named anyone.
He never mentioned anybody's name. And ironically, I mean every
student at mccauff knew exactly who this kid was because
he was the guy that was being searched every day
and followed around by administrators.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Okay, so there used to be a guy on the
school board named Tay Anderson who is, in my opinion,
the most racist person in the earned history of office
holders in Denver, a blatant racist who seemed to be
making his mission to get your guy. How much do

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you think politics played in and racist politics played into
the fact that your client got fired.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
You know, I don't know Tay Anderson well enough.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
I've read a lot about him.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
I am not a fan of his at all. But
you know, people talk about playing the race card. I mean,
that's kind of a right wing go to, and I'm
reluctant to say it because it is a right wing
go to, and I'm not a right winger.

Speaker 11 (01:12:45):
But I am a civil rights advocate and to just
immediately default to, oh, k Dennis must be a racist,
it was just atrocious.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
And I'm not suggesting that you play the race card,
and I don't think I'm playing the race card. What
I'm saying is the race card was played against your
guy exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
But what I'm saying is it was it was played
by Tay Anderson, and it was atrocious in my opinion.
I'm really looking forward to doing a deposition of mister Anderson,
who has had a host of sexual misconduct allegations leveled
against him over years.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Do you think you're going to depose him as part
of this?

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
Is that likely?

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (01:13:29):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
I would like to sell tickets to the day.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Yeah, so I would like to be there in the
front row with popcorn. Oh my gosh, that's going to
be fabulous. All right, let's let's just get We got
about a minute and a half here, so let's get
back to the issue at hand. So what kind of
employment protections did Kurt Dennis have? Like, can they fire
him for no reason? Is it at will employment?

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Is it not? How does it work?

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
It's at will employment?

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
He had no employment contract, and at will, employment means
they can fire you for no reason or any reason
under the sun, except an illegal reason. And they fired
him for an illegal reason. A lot of people think, oh,
at will just means for whatever reason. Right, it has
to be a legal reason. And they fired him in
retaliation for his free speech because he dared go on

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television and criticize the Holy Denver Public school Board.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
What remedy are you seeking?

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Well, in the great.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
American so called civil justice system, money cures all ills,
So money is on the table. Reinstatement is also on
the table under these circumstances if he wants it. The
school board has changed considerably through attrition and elections and
then will continue to do so. And he's civil cases.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Moving a snail's pace.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
So depending upon these circumstances, at the end of the case,
he may or may not want to be reemployed by
Denver Public Schools. But he has struggled to find employment
and he's taken a huge pay cut in the school district.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
He's now working in. So wow, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
He has suffered some serious reputational harm. And this really
weighed heavily, and it does weigh heavily on Kurt. He
has made a career out of being a fair good
guy and to be smeared as a racist, yeah, it's
just devastating.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
He was the first principal, the founding principal at mcauleff
Middle School, right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
The stuff that was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Thrown at him was disgusting. I just have a couple
of seconds left. Let's say that members of the school
board are listening to this, or listen to it later
online and come to you and say, David, we they're
not going to say this, but just go with my hypothetical.
We realized that what happened before, what happened to mister

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Dennis is probably not right. We'd like to offer him
all of his back pay, a bonus equal to all
of his back pay, and his job back. If you
stop the proceedings and don't depose anybody, Now, what do
you think would happen?

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
I mean, that would be a good start for negotiating,
you know, negotiating a settlement. Most civil cases settle. I
can't imagine Denver's going to want to go to trial
on this, so they will settle down the road. It's
just a matter of how much is it going to
cost then, and what does the political fallout from any settlement?
So yeah, that would be a great way to open negotiations.

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Right now, they have been stone cold silent trying to
get this case dismissed. They've failed miserably at that, and
now they're looking at going through discovery, which I just really,
frankly can't wait to do.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
I can't wait either. I can't wait either.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Keep in touch so I know when you're going to
depose Tay. Not that I'm going to be able to
watch or anything, but I just want to I just
want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
It's so exciting. David Lane is a great civil rights attorney.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
He's representing Kurt Dennis in the lawsuit against Denver Public Schools.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Thanks for your time as always, David, Hey, thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
For the invitation. Great talking to you as always.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
You too, you too. We'll take a quick break. We'll
be right back on KOA Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
How often do you remind your guests that you are
an amateur live radio and not a podcast. I do
not call myself an amateur. I call myself semi professional.
That us a big step up from amateur, and it's
almost professional. Do I remind my guests that I am
not a podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Well, I kind of am, right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
I do the show live, But then the show is
available through wherever you subscribe to podcasts, right through iHeart
Itself or Apple or wherever you get your podcast. People
can subscribe to the Rosskaminski Show and you can listen
to it later. You can listen to bits of it,
you can listen to the interviews. So it's it's it's

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a podcast, it's a live show, it's a it's a website.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
It's a little, it's a little of everything. Listener, same listener.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Do guests adjust their answers based on that notion? I
don't think so. Do you tailor your questions to fit
your time constraints? No, But I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
There's something, if there's one thing I think I need
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
A little better at when it comes to interviewings, like
I always want.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
To get in one more question and I.

Speaker 12 (01:18:10):
Got sixteen seconds, guess, so if you just give me
sixteen okay, Now you have fourteen okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
I never mind, see you later. No, except I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Don't do the see a later part, which is what
I should do. I should say we're out of time.
Instead I say we have thirty seconds. Give me a
quick answer to this. I asked the question, and it's
like it's like Charlie Brown and the football right every
single time, the even guests who are pretty experienced with
radio and TV, I tell them I've got thirty seconds
and they give me a two minute answer, and they're

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talking in a way that makes it kind of difficult
for me to interrupt, and I don't want to sound rude,
and I just let them go, and then i'm you know,
then my break's a little bit late, and I need
to you know, I need to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
So do I tailor my questions to fit my time constraints? No,
not really.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
I ask the questions that I think need to be asked,
regardless of how long I think the answer is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
But sometimes you will hear me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
You will hear me nudge guests to give quick answers, and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Sometimes they do, when sometimes they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
And what I need to do, probably better, is is
to not ask that last question, assuming that they're going
to give a short answer, even when I even when
I ask them too.

Speaker 12 (01:19:26):
I do love the time constraints, though, when you know
you have so much time and their first answer goes
like two minutes and you're like, Okay, for the rest
of these, just give me, give me some quick answers, please,
so I can get more in with you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Please. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
And sometimes they do and sometimes they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
And the ones who don't, by the way, I email
them afterwards and very gently say, you know, this time
goes very fast, and you talked so much that it
really didn't sound like a back and forth. It sounded
like a lecture. And that's bad radio. And if you're
on with me in the future, give shorter answers and
let me ask another question. Happened yesterday when with the

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Jimmy Carter guy, you know, he went on this like
three or four minute just verbal diarrhea about stuff about
Jimmy Carter. And I emailed him and said, you know,
you should have stopped after one and let me ask another,
ask another question. And so you do have to work
these things. But my listeners, my listeners know they're on

(01:20:23):
a live radio show generally, and that it may be
a podcast later, but they know that it's a live
radio show.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
So there's that answer.

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You have two and a half hours left to enter
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Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
You'll see it right there instructions in the caption awesome.
Good luck. Yeah, good luck. Go do that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
And also, folks, I should mention if you don't have
the iHeart Radio app or you haven't updated it in
a long time, go get it or update it because the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
New version of the iHeartRadio app is tremendous.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
It's all the streaming stuff but with the ease of
use of a car radio.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Right, So it's got something like a live radio dial.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
And a scan button and presets and a lot of
other stuff, and it's absolutely free. So you can listen
to my show or Mandi or the sports guys, or
morning news, or our sister stations or music stations. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
You can do any of that on the iHeart Radio app.
And it's prety, sue, so go get that when we
come back to Actually do want to talk a little
bit of Broncos, but I also have an.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Immense amount of other stuff that I still haven't gotten
to today that you're gonna find interesting and useful, and we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Do it all after this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I'm almost off to another weekend like most of the
rest of you, Ay Rod is cheering. Are you doing
any work this weekend with the Broncos game at all?

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
Indeed?

Speaker 10 (01:22:23):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
What do you do in these days? You're doing so
much sports stuff? Yeah, tell me what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Yes.

Speaker 12 (01:22:28):
All the social media coverage you see from the stadium
is yours, truly, along with Susie Warden and the gang.
So basically, I'm I'm there a couple hours before kickoff
doing a bunch of fun coverage of a different photos,
different videos of the Broncos on the sidelines, all the
fun happening, especially stuff with throwbacks, anything KWA one hundred
they're doing on Sunday. And then most of the coverage

(01:22:50):
you see in the locker room or in the press
conferences is yours truly as well. Chatting with some players
and get some ins and outs of you know, what
the players think of how the game and down. Hopefully
we're talking about a playoff berth and not the opposite
of a playoff Berth on Sunday. So that's what I'm
That's why I'm doing on all game days. So I'm
hoping to keep the season going.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Well, very exciting, yeah, very exciting, a lot of fun,
lot of a job. Yeah, why wouldn't you. It's a
cool job. It's pretty cool, cool job.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
We have a lot of still a ton of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Is just one of those days where I've got an
immense number of things on my show sheet.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
If you go to the blog at Rosskominsky dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
If you go to the blog, you will you will
see that, you know what, Hey, ay, Rod, I just
want to be prepared to take some audio here. Again,
there's it looks like they're close to done voting. Let's
actually have a listen, because before you put this on.
So right now, it looks like Keem Jefferies has two
hundred and twelve he's the Democrat. Mike Johnson, who's the Republican,

(01:23:49):
has two hundred and ten. There are three votes for
other people, which means there's some number of people.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
I don't know if all of.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
The members of the House are there, but there's some
number of people who simply didn't vote.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 9 (01:24:02):
Then a colony's problem.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
What was to be temporary tectively become permanent.

Speaker 9 (01:24:10):
We must do something about this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
The general Lady is no longer recognized. Someone was mad
about something. The House will be in order. Maybe not,

(01:24:33):
he says, the House will be in order, but it
true doesn't seem that way.

Speaker 5 (01:24:36):
Does it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
Get ordered?

Speaker 10 (01:24:41):
The reading clerk will, they'll call the names of the
representatives elect who did not answer the first call of
the role.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Yeah, system, folks didn't vote. Here here are their names.
They're probably all Republicans.

Speaker 9 (01:24:53):
Person Biggs of Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Right, so a hardcore conservative. Johnson troublemaker. So he just
changed his vote. He just decided to vote for Johnsonson.

Speaker 9 (01:25:13):
Carson Jeffries, so.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
That's a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
I wonder if a few of the Democrats held their
votes back just so they could play this game with
the Republicans at the.

Speaker 9 (01:25:23):
End Cloud Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
But don't know who that representative is, but clearly a Republican.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Maybe a new one.

Speaker 13 (01:25:36):
Clyde Huhar.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Clyde who apparently just didn't vote go Sar.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
I don't know if I didn't hear a vote as
a Republican from Georgia. Paul Gosar is a conservative Republican
from Arizona.

Speaker 9 (01:26:01):
Maybe Harris of Maryland.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
The Ghostart didn't vote Johnson. So now now I think,
what is it?

Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
Two?

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Jefferies is up by one, the Democrats up by one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
I believe that's right. Roy chip Roy of Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
A conservative Johnson, so he came around and voted for Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
So now it's tied to two thirteen.

Speaker 6 (01:26:33):
Wall.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
I don't know if we're ahead of the TV or
the TV's ahead of us.

Speaker 14 (01:26:40):
Johnson, so I guess that was Congressman Mike Waltz.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
I think there might be more than one Waltz. Actually,
if there are any reps. No, Yeah, because he's not
in did not answer the call of the role. They
may come to that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Yeah, I think that's Congressman Mike Walls, who's still in
Congress because he's not Donald Trump's national security advisor yet.
So Mike Waltz voted for Johnson. So now Johnson's up
by two. Two members of the House just walked up.
They said, anybody who didn't vote can walk up and
cast their vote. Two members just walked up. I don't
I can't tell who they are.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
One is Representative Clyde, who's a.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Is a Republican of Georgia. He just voted for Johnson.

Speaker 6 (01:27:32):
Johnson, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Mike Gostar also voting for Johnson.

Speaker 13 (01:27:39):
Against our county to count state count side because they
didn't year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
So it looks like those votes didn't get officially counted.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
It looks like the clerk is saying, we didn't count
Clyde because we didn't hear him.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Okay, And now they're saying heard who heard what you know?

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
So now they're counting.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
On Now it looks like Johnson is up two sixteen
to two thirteen with three others, and so it looks
like I don't know if a one anyway, this look
it's live radio, and I'm learning it as you learn it.
There's three votes for other but I would have thought

(01:28:28):
that if all three came from Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
That Johnson wouldn't have had.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
The majority unless there are some Democrats who are not
there voting.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Maybe there are some Democrats who just aren't in.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
The room, because right now it looks like the total
of votes cast is four hundred and thirty three, and
it's supposed to be four hundred and thirty five if
they were all there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
So I'm not sure what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
But at the moment, Johnson is now up to seventeen
to thirteen. He would need to eighteen to have a
majority if everybody voted, but if there are a couple
of people who didn't vote, then he could win with
two seventeen because Jeffries the Democrat, is to thirteen and

(01:29:19):
whoever else. The other people who's who were named in
votes number got three, So that's a total of two
sixteen for the other candidates. Johnson has two seventeen, and
now they're all trying to figure it out. Now, this
is amazing, This is absolutely amazing. The Clark They're like,

(01:29:42):
not sure what the county is apparently not sure what
the total number of members is not sure if they're
missing some votes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
Wow, we do we do do it again. Unbelievable, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Hey, hey, Rod, can you get Ben Albright on the phone,
see if we.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Can get him just to talk for a few.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Minutes about the upcoming the upcoming Broncos game. This is
this is this is pretty crazy. The House is just confused.
It looks like it looks like two four thirty. It
looks like they're missing two votes. If all of the
members of the of the House are there, it looks

(01:30:26):
there's two votes that aren't in the count if Johnson,
if those people are actually there and do vote, then
Johnson needs one of the two to win. If they
both vote for somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Else, then.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Johnson won't win on this round at least, and it
would have to go another round.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
I may or may not have the Speaker of the
House on the phone. And if they, and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
If they, and if these other two whoever they are,
either aren't they or are there and choose not to vote,
then Johnson would win with two seventeen, even though it's
not a majority, even's one short of a majority.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Of all votes in the House. This is absolutely nuts,
absolutely nuts.

Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
All right, speaking of absolutely nuts, let's talk to Benjamin Albright, my.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Friend Ben Albright.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
You hear him here on KOA weekdays from six pm
to what eleven pm?

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Is that right?

Speaker 14 (01:31:28):
Ben?

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
That is correct?

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
That is Country.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
On Broncos Country tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
And I want to have Ben on to talk about
the Broncos game this weekend, which is going to be
the Broncos opportunity to get into the playoffs for the
first time in eight years or something like that. Before
I do, though, Ben, because you and I like to
talk about Carrent events.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
And politics and stuff and not just sports.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
But I want to ask you something that's somewhere in
the intersection of sports and Carrent events. And I saw
that ESPN was getting a fully bludgeoned on social media
about their choice during the Sugar Bowl last night to
tune away from what was going on on the field
at the beginning of the game. Namely, they didn't show

(01:32:11):
the national anthem, and they didn't show the moments of
silence for the fourteen people who were killed in New Orleans,
which is where the game was held just the day before,
and instead they showed like their analysts talking about college.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Football or something. Do you think that's a legit thing
to be upset about.

Speaker 6 (01:32:32):
I mean, I think there are real things in the
world to be upset about, you know, their kids starving
and people dying, And I think that's what I reserve
my being upset about kind of stuff. As far as
the rest of it goes, I mean, I think it's
bad form not to show the moment of silence as
far as the national anthem that's hit or missed, I mean,
networks sometimes will show it, sometimes they don't, So you know,
I'm not gonna pin them down on that one. But

(01:32:53):
the moment of silence thing, But what are you doing,
Like we're respecting the dead? Like, at what point could
that be a fen si to anyone?

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Yeah? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
And you know what that probably means even a little
more coming from you as a as a veteran, right,
I mean, respecting the dad is very important to everybody,
but I think even perhaps even more so to veterans
like you. Okay, I just wanted to ask you that.
So tell us a little bit about the significance of

(01:33:23):
Sunday's Broncos game.

Speaker 6 (01:33:25):
Well, it's winning, You're in. I mean, you win, you
make the playoffs. You don't, You're you're sitting at home
and thinking about it for the next eight months. And
you know, it's been the case for the Broncos for
the past couple of games. They lost, the Chargers lost
the Bengals both games either one they win, and they
were in and they haven't got it done. So this
is one of those things where you know, you really
want to win this game. Last thing you want to

(01:33:46):
do is just lose your last game. You sit at
home for eight months thinking about how you had three
games to do it and came away with bubcus. So
the good news for the Broncos, you're up against the
Kansas City mostly backups. They're going to be resting their starters,
and they've already secured the number one seed. The bad
news is those guys that are that are going to
be out there playing well, they might not be starters.
They're guys that want to be starters, and they want

(01:34:06):
to be starters somewhere else next year, and so they're
going to be playing their their their backsides. Office isn't
going to be a game kampasity to be coasting in.
You know, the Broncos came close to steeling Want and
Arrowhead earlier this year as a block field goal in
the final play of the game that cost.

Speaker 5 (01:34:19):
Them the game.

Speaker 6 (01:34:20):
And so I think I think Denver's looking for revenge,
and I think they've got extra motivation because if they win,
they get in the playoffs the first time since Super
Bowl fifties.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
So I think there's a lot on the line, and
they they could still get in if they lose, but
at that point, as you said, they don't control it anymore.
The Dolphins and the Bengals would both have to lose
or tie, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
The Broncos could get in.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
You don't want to be in that situation, right right, right, Yeah,
there's still scenarios, but the basic mantra here is.

Speaker 6 (01:34:46):
Not to leave it up.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
The chance you win your in.

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
That's that, and a win Wood would put them in
the playoffs, playing on the road at Buffalo in the
first round. So that's a that's a tough ask and
a tough matchup looking ahead. You know what, it's too
far ahead, but that that is a tough match and
a tough ass looking ahead. But still it'd be the
first chance at the playoffs, and kind of a sign
of hey, we're building something here, We're building the culture here.

(01:35:10):
We do this with a rookie quarterback. Let's run it
back when he's got some experience. See what we look
like next year.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
When when you and I are not on the air,
we we talk about lots of things, but we frequently
talk about gambling on the NFL as well. And you
see all the fifty and seventy cent bets I make,
sometimes twenty eight cent bets. I made a twenty eight
cent bet the other day that I sent you a
screenshot of yesterday. Does the does the ten and a
half point Bronco's favorite line against the Chiefs feel about

(01:35:38):
right to you?

Speaker 6 (01:35:39):
I don't like that line. Actually, I mean, Carson Wentz
has been a productive quarterback and that's who's going to
be playing for, you know, for the Chiefs. I don't
like that ten and a half line. Anytime you get
you get a division team that you've already played each
other once, you know, they tend to be closer, lower
scoring games. Now I say that and watch, you know,
watch the opposite happen. But typically in those type situations
when you get a division rival, you've played multiple times,

(01:36:01):
so you know, you're playing for the second time this
year at the end of the season. You know, those
those just tend to be lower scoring games that that
have a closer margin. So I don't I don't like
that ten and a half number. I really don't if
I were if if I were betting that, and I
have been known to lay, you know, maybe a whole
dollar or two at times. You know, I probably buy

(01:36:22):
that line from ten and a half down to six
and a half and and go from there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Okay, And if if the Broncos win on Sunday, what
what would be your your gut instinct, without thinking about
it too much, what do you think the right line
would be for the Broncos at Buffalo?

Speaker 6 (01:36:40):
I think the book makers to start at like seven
and a half or eight. Wow, it'll be Buffalo be
favored by by just over a touchdown. So that that's
kind of the that's kind of the line that you
would see there is to try to get get better
on the other side of that touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
And and then hope Demver keeps it close. If you're
the sports.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Book A Rod and I we were both thinking the
line would be higher than that, closer to two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
Than one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
Well, well it would be fourteen.

Speaker 6 (01:37:05):
You might get it as high as maybe nine and
a half, ten and a half, but I think they'll
start at eight. Let let the betters go from there,
you know, see where they take the market.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Very interesting, all right, Ben, I appreciate your time as always,
and I'll be texting you about about NFL betting over
the weekend as always.

Speaker 6 (01:37:23):
Hey, you know when you hit that big money, I
still owe you a dinner, so we.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Got to soon.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
That's like one of the biggest bets I ever made,
and I won that one, so I'm pretty happy about that.
All right, Ben, I have a have a great weekend
and go Broncos made Okay, that's been Albright. You can
catch him on Broncos Country Night six pm to eleven
pm on on weeknights.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
I I agree with Ben.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
I don't care very much about whether ESPN showed the
national anthem because these days.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Like whatever, and maybe you have other stuff to talk about.
I like seeing the national anthem. I will tell you this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
My kids think I'm weird for a lot of reasons,
but one of the reasons is I could be. And
I usually am watching football alone at home, nobody else
in my house cares to watch football, And if I
happen to be there, like sitting on the couch at
the very beginning, and the game comes on and they.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Start the national anthem, I stand up.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
I in my living room and nobody else is there,
And sometimes, you know, someone else from my family will
come in from outside or come down from upstairs, and
they'll and they'll see me standing with my hand over
my heart. Or if I happen to be wearing a
baseball hat, which I don't do very often indoors, but
if that happened, I would have the hat off and
I'd have that over my heart, or you know what,
They like, what are you doing? And I mean, well,

(01:38:41):
it's it's the national anthem.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
I'm standing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
That doesn't mean I need to see it. It doesn't
mean I need to see it every time. But I
really think it was, as Ben put it, very gently,
bad form by ESPN not to show the moment of silence.
I don't know whether maybe they didn't know it was
coming and didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Prepare for it. You'd have to have thought that they
would know that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
And I think not showing the moment of silence when
fourteen people were murdered by a terrorist in that same
city thirty something hours earlier. I think that was I
think that was bad for him. And it's ESPN, of course, right.
So ESPN is one of the worst most woke media

(01:39:29):
organizations you can imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
You wouldn't think that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
A sports organization would be so deeply.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Political, but it is. And that's that's bad, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
So let me tell you now what's going on with
the Speaker of the House thing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
So when last I gave you the count.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
It was two seventeen for Johnson, two thirteen for Jefferies,
and three for other which means that Johnson had two
seventeen and all the others together had two sixteen. But
it's changed, and it appears that there was one Republican
congressman who didn't vote, but then who tried to but
then who voted at the end, who was counted twice,

(01:40:12):
so they had to take his vote off, so that
dropped Johnson to two sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
And then there was some other, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Maybe another member of the House who hadn't voted, who
showed up and voted for the Democrat Jeffries, and maybe
two of them, and so Jeffries is now up to
two fifteen. So it's two sixteen for Johnson, two fifteen
for the Democrat Democrat Jakim Jefferies to be Speaker of
the House, and three members voted for somebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
That leaves one short of one short.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Of all the members of the House, there's four hundred
and thirty four votes being counted. There's four hundred and
thirty five members of the House. I don't know if
all four thirty five there. I don't know if there's
one who's missing or just didn't vote. But just to understand,
you don't become Speaker of the House by getting the
most votes. You become Speaker of the House by getting a.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Majority of all.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Votes that would cast that were cast for anybody by name.
So counting voting president doesn't count. But if you vote,
if somebody voted for Elon Musk or Ross Kaminski or
a Rod, it does count in the denominator. So if

(01:41:38):
Johnson has two sixteen, Jeffries and other together can't succeed
two fifteen. But they're two eighteen, So it's two sixteen
to two fifteen, which looks like Johnson's got the most right,
but no, there's three for Other, and that means Johnson
does not have a majority of all votes cast for

(01:42:02):
Speaker by name, and now what he's got to hope
The only way to make this work is that two
of the three who voted for other need to come
back on the second ballot and change their votes to Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
And this is what I told you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
I expected some hardcore conservatives to put on a show
for whoever and vote no in the first round and
come back and change their votes later. We will see
what happens on the second ballot. Whenever it happens, I
expect Thomas Massey of Kentucky will not change his vote.
Johnson needs the two others to change his vote or

(01:42:45):
there will not be a Speaker of the House. And
that is not the way Republicans want to start this Congress.
Have a wonderful, wonderful weekend. Go Broncos.

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