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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we're gonna do something completely different, although still
relating to that dude. Former President Donald Trump is coming
to Colorado now. Sometime back two three weeks back, he
said he intended to go to Springfield, Ohio to talk
about or campaign on the immigrant related issues there, and Aurora,
(00:20):
Colorado to talk about campaign on the immigrant.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Related issues here.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I think they started with aiming for maybe four thousand people.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now he said, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
To Aurora, but they're actually going to the Gaylord Hotel,
which is technically Aurora, but just barely.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's just barely.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Inside the city line, and nobody thinks of that as Aurora.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But in any case, that's where he's going. And I
understand it.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You wouldn't really probably want to try to find a
way to get Donald Trump safely into Aurora and wreck
all the traffic and all this, and where would he
go anyway, So he's out there at the gay Lord,
and there's going to be some special guests and our
very own Jimmy Segenberger, who you hear fill in for
me and for Mandy and for Michael Brown over on KHOW.
And he's also of course an investigative journalist for the
(01:04):
Denver Gazette is out there at the event.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So Hi, Jimmy, Hey Ross, it's stick to me with you.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
This is an electric tier. It's already getting energized, I
can tell you that much.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So where First of all, where exactly are you? I
have been.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm not sure what the name of the ballroom is,
but it is inside the hotel. They might have combined
a couple of rooms, because it's a very large room
for a hotel to accommodate what could be well over
ten thousand people. I mean, the line was just stretching
out there, and I was just speaking with several people
who work more towards the front of the line, and
(01:42):
they've been here in many cases since five or six
in the morning, just to get what is to them
is a prime spot.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It would have surprise me if there were people camping
out overnight like I did for Springsteen tickets in the
ap work right, It wouldn't surprise me at all. And
as I mentioned, I think that they were looking at
four thousand people to begin with, and the demand was
just so massive they had to do what you just said,
combine rooms. Now they're talking about maybe ten thousand, and
I'm sure there will be some number of thousands of
(02:12):
people who can't get in and they're just outside waving
the Trump flags and so on.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Is that your expectation as well.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I think there's a really good chance of that. We've
heard of that happening at many Trump rallies. In fact,
I remember in twenty twenty when it went down to
Colorado Springs. I went and covered that one, and that
was at the Broadmoor Arena, so a much bigger venue
even than this, and the turnout was so much that
they had a separate screen, as I recall, outside for
(02:41):
those who couldn't get in. So I wouldn't be surprised.
This is Trump's only stopped to Colorado, and there are
a lot of Trump supporters who want to come out
be with others that are of like mind, and so
that could happen. I'm not sure, but I wouldn't put
it pass right.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
When was the Colorado Springs one that you said you
were When was that?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That was in February of twenty twenty, just before COVID
shut things down?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, I'm pretty sure I was at that one. And
it's the only world it's it's the only Trump rally
I've been to.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Did I see you there?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Okay, I thought so.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
All right, So that's the only that's the only Trump
rally I've ever I've ever been to, and it is
it is quite an experience. Now, have you had any
opportunity to talk with attendees and see what's on their minds?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, I've talked with several, but doing some interviews and
folks here. For the most part, the ones that I've
talked to have been newcomers. You've never been to a
Trump rally, but they feel energized. They're concerned about the
direction of the country, and they're like, this is my
opportunity to see Trump and person with other Trump supporters,
(03:50):
and they want to experience it for themselves. I did
talk with one person who was here for the second
time and who just was thinking, man, I want to
come back because the kind of electricity that I fell in,
the enthusiasm and the crmaraderie, was something they wanted to
share in again. And that I think is what they're feeling.
(04:11):
Because for a lot of truck supporters, they say ross
to feel like they are almost I don't want to
say outcast, per say, but that sometimes they are not
in the mainstream. They feel that way, especially in Colorado,
and this gives them a chance to be with others
like that.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
You know what, I fully understand it. I'll tell you
a very very quick story. I used to live near
the town of Nederland in the foothills outside of Boulder
County and kind of a very rural area. I wasn't
in town, it was near town, and at some point
I had put a yard sign at the bottom of
my driveway along the road for a Republican candidate. I
(04:51):
think it might have been Bob Schieffer running for US
Senate back in the day, or maybe it was Mark Hillman,
something like that. Just one time, and then I had
a conversation with a guy who was doing some work
at my house. He said, oh, I was at the
supermarket this morning, and I mentioned, you know, I'm working
at such and such an address today, and the person
(05:13):
in line next to me said, isn't that the Republican
so and now all of Colorado, not all, but a
lot of Colorado is like that. That kind of feeling
used to be sort of confined to Boulder and park Hill,
but now so much of Colorado I think feels like
a foreign country where you're kind of unwanted to anybody
(05:36):
who's right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Of center, whether or not you're a Trump fan.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth to that.
And that's why they want to come to something like
this is because it gives them a chance to be
with someone, in the case of the Trump supporters, someone
who they look to for leadership and trust to set
this country, in their minds, on the right track if
he becomes president, which they're hopeful of. And I would
just say one thing, a rock. I don't know this
(06:01):
from your recollection is the impression you get, but mind
you is that when Trump shows up at a rally,
he wants the people who are there to come away
thinking that was the best show on Earth. I'm just
let me give you a political speech. We'll go off
as we know and also get tangents in different directions.
But I'll tell you that's not for the people watching
on TV. That's for the audience here that he wants
(06:24):
to have such a great time, that they are committed
to getting him elected, to telling their friends, to getting
out there and supporting Trump. And that's because of the showmen.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I couldn't agree with you more and I would say
my experience at the Trump rally four years ago ish
was it led me to understand that the rallies are
very different if you watch, if you're there in persons
versus on TV. And then on TV there's two versions, right, Sometimes,
(06:54):
especially on a conservative network, they'll run most or all
of a rally, and sometimes on different networks they'll just
run a few minutes of it, and of course on
the liberal networks they just run a few minutes that
piss off liberals. When you watch the whole rally, you
get a much different feel. But being there in person
is still a very different feel than watching the whole
(07:14):
rally on TV. And the sense of I think electricity
in the crowd is.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's very real.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And I say that as someone who isn't a Trump lover,
but it is a show and.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You can feel it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, that's exactly right. It is palpable. And then as
I was talking of folks, you know they're concerned about
issues like in this case, Trump isn't going to win Colorado.
He didn't in twenty sixteen, did even worse than twenty twenty.
But coming here to highlight the issue of immigration in
the southern border because Aurara has captured the attention of
(07:50):
the nation. I think just shows that when it comes
to Trump, he'll go to destinations where turnout is team
for him to win those states, and he'll go to
destinations that allow him to highlight specific issues and then
show that even in parts of the country like Colorado
where maybe he's not going to win, he still has
(08:11):
very enthusiastic support and you can, in fact feel it
palpably in the rest.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Got just about a minute left.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And I don't know if you've been paying much attention
to this, and tell me if you haven't. But other
than Donald Trump, who do you expect to hear speak today?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think you may see Danielle Jerinski, a or a
city councilwoman, because she has been outfront on this. I'm
guessing one or two of the congressional candidates, maybe more
will come out and speak. And I think that that
is an interesting proposition, given that for some who speak,
it may be something they're like, Okay, this could drag
(08:50):
me down in a state like Colorado, So there's a
risk in coming out to speak. But then, what are
your priorities? Is that highlighting an issue and showing that
you're willing to address that issue even with the Trump
or are you shying away from it? I think that'll
that'll tell us a lot. Who's gonna speak together.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
That's a that's a great point. I do expect Lauren
Bobert to speak there. Uh And and I think Lauren
Bobert is happy to be as as tight with Trump
as anybody ever wants to be.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And I think with I think with Danielle Jorinski. I
have I have no.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Idea if she has future political ambitions, but it wouldn't
surprise me if she does. And given where she is,
being tied closely to Donald Trump would be a negative,
not a positive.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So she needs to be real careful here.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And talk about the issue and talk about Aurora and
talk about the state, even if it means pushing back
a little bit on Trump, which is not easy to.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Do with a Trump rally.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So it'll be fascinating and you're going to get to
see it in person.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Agreed. Yeah, It's going to be one of those things
where you have to watch the media fallout afterwards to
see what the PUZ is and how it plays on
both conservative and liber more main screen leading.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Jimmy Singenberger is out at the Gaylord Hotel for the
Trump rally that's going to start in a couple of hours.
Thanks for your time, Thanks for the great coverage. Jimmy,
we'll talk with you soon.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Keep that brother, Thanks
All right, we're gonna do something completely different, although still
relating to that dude. Former President Donald Trump is coming
to Colorado now. Sometime back two three weeks back, he
said he intended to go to Springfield, Ohio to talk
about or campaign on the immigrant related issues there, and Aurora,
(00:20):
Colorado to talk about campaign on the immigrant.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Related issues here.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I think they started with aiming for maybe four thousand people.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Now he said, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
To Aurora, but they're actually going to the Gaylord Hotel,
which is technically Aurora, but just barely.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's just barely.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Inside the city line, and nobody thinks of that as Aurora.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
But in any case, that's where he's going. And I
understand it.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
You wouldn't really probably want to try to find a
way to get Donald Trump safely into Aurora and wreck
all the traffic and all this, and where would he
go anyway, So he's out there at the gay Lord,
and there's going to be some special guests and our
very own Jimmy Segenberger, who you hear fill in for
me and for Mandy and for Michael Brown over on KHOW.
And he's also of course an investigative journalist for the
(01:04):
Denver Gazette is out there at the event.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So Hi, Jimmy, Hey Ross, it's stick to me with you.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
This is an electric tier. It's already getting energized, I
can tell you that much.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So where First of all, where exactly are you? I
have been.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm not sure what the name of the ballroom is,
but it is inside the hotel. They might have combined
a couple of rooms, because it's a very large room
for a hotel to accommodate what could be well over
ten thousand people. I mean, the line was just stretching
out there, and I was just speaking with several people
who work more towards the front of the line, and
(01:42):
they've been here in many cases since five or six
in the morning, just to get what is to them
is a prime spot.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It would have surprise me if there were people camping
out overnight like I did for Springsteen tickets in the
ap work right, It wouldn't surprise me at all. And
as I mentioned, I think that they were looking at
four thousand people to begin with, and the demand was
just so massive they had to do what you just said,
combine rooms. Now they're talking about maybe ten thousand, and
I'm sure there will be some number of thousands of
(02:12):
people who can't get in and they're just outside waving
the Trump flags and so on.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Is that your expectation as well.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I think there's a really good chance of that. We've
heard of that happening at many Trump rallies. In fact,
I remember in twenty twenty when it went down to
Colorado Springs. I went and covered that one, and that
was at the Broadmoor Arena, so a much bigger venue
even than this, and the turnout was so much that
they had a separate screen, as I recall, outside for
(02:41):
those who couldn't get in. So I wouldn't be surprised.
This is Trump's only stopped to Colorado, and there are
a lot of Trump supporters who want to come out
be with others that are of like mind, and so
that could happen. I'm not sure, but I wouldn't put
it pass right.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
When was the Colorado Springs one that you said you
were When was that?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That was in February of twenty twenty, just before COVID
shut things down?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, I'm pretty sure I was at that one. And
it's the only world it's it's the only Trump rally
I've been to.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Did I see you there?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Okay, I thought so.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
All right, So that's the only that's the only Trump
rally I've ever I've ever been to, and it is
it is quite an experience. Now, have you had any
opportunity to talk with attendees and see what's on their minds?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, I've talked with several, but doing some interviews and
folks here. For the most part, the ones that I've
talked to have been newcomers. You've never been to a
Trump rally, but they feel energized. They're concerned about the
direction of the country, and they're like, this is my
opportunity to see Trump and person with other Trump supporters,
(03:50):
and they want to experience it for themselves. I did
talk with one person who was here for the second
time and who just was thinking, man, I want to
come back because the kind of electricity that I fell in,
the enthusiasm and the crmaraderie, was something they wanted to
share in again. And that I think is what they're feeling.
(04:11):
Because for a lot of truck supporters, they say ross
to feel like they are almost I don't want to
say outcast, per say, but that sometimes they are not
in the mainstream. They feel that way, especially in Colorado,
and this gives them a chance to be with others
like that.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
You know what, I fully understand it. I'll tell you
a very very quick story. I used to live near
the town of Nederland in the foothills outside of Boulder
County and kind of a very rural area. I wasn't
in town, it was near town, and at some point
I had put a yard sign at the bottom of
my driveway along the road for a Republican candidate. I
(04:51):
think it might have been Bob Schieffer running for US
Senate back in the day, or maybe it was Mark Hillman,
something like that. Just one time, and then I had
a conversation with a guy who was doing some work
at my house. He said, oh, I was at the
supermarket this morning, and I mentioned, you know, I'm working
at such and such an address today, and the person
(05:13):
in line next to me said, isn't that the Republican
so and now all of Colorado, not all, but a
lot of Colorado is like that. That kind of feeling
used to be sort of confined to Boulder and park Hill,
but now so much of Colorado I think feels like
a foreign country where you're kind of unwanted to anybody
(05:36):
who's right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Of center, whether or not you're a Trump fan.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth to that.
And that's why they want to come to something like
this is because it gives them a chance to be
with someone, in the case of the Trump supporters, someone
who they look to for leadership and trust to set
this country, in their minds, on the right track if
he becomes president, which they're hopeful of. And I would
just say one thing, a rock. I don't know this
(06:01):
from your recollection is the impression you get, but mind
you is that when Trump shows up at a rally,
he wants the people who are there to come away
thinking that was the best show on Earth. I'm just
let me give you a political speech. We'll go off
as we know and also get tangents in different directions.
But I'll tell you that's not for the people watching
on TV. That's for the audience here that he wants
(06:24):
to have such a great time, that they are committed
to getting him elected, to telling their friends, to getting
out there and supporting Trump. And that's because of the showmen.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I couldn't agree with you more and I would say
my experience at the Trump rally four years ago ish
was it led me to understand that the rallies are
very different if you watch, if you're there in persons
versus on TV. And then on TV there's two versions, right, Sometimes,
(06:54):
especially on a conservative network, they'll run most or all
of a rally, and sometimes on different networks they'll just
run a few minutes of it, and of course on
the liberal networks they just run a few minutes that
piss off liberals. When you watch the whole rally, you
get a much different feel. But being there in person
is still a very different feel than watching the whole
(07:14):
rally on TV. And the sense of I think electricity
in the crowd is.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's very real.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And I say that as someone who isn't a Trump lover,
but it is a show and.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You can feel it.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, that's exactly right. It is palpable. And then as
I was talking of folks, you know they're concerned about
issues like in this case, Trump isn't going to win Colorado.
He didn't in twenty sixteen, did even worse than twenty twenty.
But coming here to highlight the issue of immigration in
the southern border because Aurara has captured the attention of
(07:50):
the nation. I think just shows that when it comes
to Trump, he'll go to destinations where turnout is team
for him to win those states, and he'll go to
destinations that allow him to highlight specific issues and then
show that even in parts of the country like Colorado
where maybe he's not going to win, he still has
(08:11):
very enthusiastic support and you can, in fact feel it
palpably in the rest.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Got just about a minute left.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And I don't know if you've been paying much attention
to this, and tell me if you haven't. But other
than Donald Trump, who do you expect to hear speak today?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think you may see Danielle Jerinski, a or a
city councilwoman, because she has been outfront on this. I'm
guessing one or two of the congressional candidates, maybe more
will come out and speak. And I think that that
is an interesting proposition, given that for some who speak,
it may be something they're like, Okay, this could drag
(08:50):
me down in a state like Colorado, So there's a
risk in coming out to speak. But then, what are
your priorities? Is that highlighting an issue and showing that
you're willing to address that issue even with the Trump
or are you shying away from it? I think that'll
that'll tell us a lot. Who's gonna speak together.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
That's a that's a great point. I do expect Lauren
Bobert to speak there. Uh And and I think Lauren
Bobert is happy to be as as tight with Trump
as anybody ever wants to be.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And I think with I think with Danielle Jorinski. I
have I have no.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Idea if she has future political ambitions, but it wouldn't
surprise me if she does. And given where she is,
being tied closely to Donald Trump would be a negative,
not a positive.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So she needs to be real careful here.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And talk about the issue and talk about Aurora and
talk about the state, even if it means pushing back
a little bit on Trump, which is not easy to.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Do with a Trump rally.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
So it'll be fascinating and you're going to get to
see it in person.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Agreed. Yeah, It's going to be one of those things
where you have to watch the media fallout afterwards to
see what the PUZ is and how it plays on
both conservative and liber more main screen leading.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Jimmy Singenberger is out at the Gaylord Hotel for the
Trump rally that's going to start in a couple of hours.
Thanks for your time, Thanks for the great coverage. Jimmy,
we'll talk with you soon.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Keep that brother, Thanks
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