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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've never done this before, but I'm adding this comment
into the podcast after the show. During the interview you'll
hear next You're going to hear me say more than
once that it's wrong that an American should be in
prison for four years without trial, and that is almost
always true. But what I didn't know and probably should have,
and a listener alerted me to after the interview, is
that mister Lang's.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Trial was repeatedly delayed by his own attorneys.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That would also have added to his time in what
he called solitary confinement. Although his ability to speak to
people in cells near him isn't really what I'd think
of his solitary confinement in any case, the fact that
his not going to trial for that long a time
was due to his own choices that certainly changes my
opinion of his situation. I apologize for not finding that
(00:45):
fact in advance, but I want you to have it
in advance of listening to this conversation. And I am
very pleased to welcome to Kowa Jake Lang. Jake has
had an interesting last several years. He was at the
Capitol on January sixth, and we'll talk about how it
was that he ended up getting arrested. He was convicted
(01:08):
and imprisoned, including spending a lot of time in solitary confinement.
We're going to talk about that as well, because I
have a big problem with that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And then he's pardoned by President Trump and he's founded
a group.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Called Federal Watchdog, and there's a lot of stuff to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So Jake Lang, welcome to KOA. Thanks for being.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Here, Bob, bless you guys. How are you.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Really, jod I've been looking forward to this conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I have.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I have so many things I want to ask you,
and I hope you won't take offense at any questions.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
No, of course, I mean, you know the point about
January sixth that we've been trying to make for years.
You know, I was just part of my President Trump
thirty days ago, you know, released from my prison cell
after four years and six days without a trial, and
you know, we've been fighting for the truth of January
sixth from the very onset, trying to let the American
people know we were not the aggressors. You know, the
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Capitol police attack us that day, they took four unarmed
Americans lives, that killed four people, and you know, the
American people reacted as Americans do. We stood up, you know,
we held our ground and we defended our country.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, so, boy, there was a lot there I got.
Oh my gosh, I have so many things to ask you,
But let me just follow up on two things you
said there. So you said you were in prison for
four years without a trial. So are you saying your
case never went to trial and you were not convicted
because I thought you were, but maybe I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
No, that's exactly right what you just said. I was
never convicted. I was held in prison for over four
years without a trial.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Wow, all right, we're gonna come back to that. That
shouldn't happen in the United States.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You you also said that four people died that day
at the hands of law enforcement. I'm aware of one.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
The.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Ashley Ashley Babbitt is oft her name, and so where
who are the other three that I don't know about.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You have Roseanne Boilin, which is the woman that was
murdered virtually in my arms inside the West Terrace tunnel.
She was trampled and beaten by officer Leila Morris, and
she succumbed to her injuries and died. And you had
two men that also died of heart attacks, Kevin Greeson
and Benjamin Phillips. So you know we had four Americans
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that directly, I mean the heart attacks that happened from
those two men because they got it with concussion carnesis
flash banks flew up at the feet and their hearts
gave out.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Interesting, all right, I see, I see the Roseanne Boilin thing.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'll have to read more about that. And I hadn't
heard that I see it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean in the New York Times, she appears to
have been killed in a crush of fellow rioters.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
But you're saying it wasn't that during their attempt to
fight through a police line. I'm gonna have to go.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Read about that more. I'm a little surprised I hadn't
heard about it before. So let me let me start
with a macro kind of question. So, I I think
that I've seen in some of these articles about you
at the New York Post and elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I think it's you.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But tell me if it's not, who's standing there with
like a gas mask or something in a shield and
an aluminum baseball bat?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Is that you? Yes? That was about ten minutes after
they murdered Roseanne boiling me and a group of men
decided to create like a defensive wall to protect the
other unarmed protesters from the encroaching advancement of the murderous
Capitol police. And so you know, at that point it
was you know, people's and women and elderly people's lives
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are on the line, and I had to stand up
and do something.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Did you from that position that I see in the
in the still picture, I don't have video of that,
did you go into the building from there?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Or did you did you stay where you were? Basically
I never really made it into the building.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
It was basically right where.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was right there.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Did you end up in any physical confrontation at any
point with a with a member of law enforcement? And
and where did you get that shield that you were
holding that looks to me like it's a government property? Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The shield was found on the ground being passed around
by the jan sixers. So was the gas mask. And
somebody handed me to that. Actually, uh, the person handed
it to me was an ANTIFA disrupted and so you
know that was very unfortunate. But you know, at that point,
when you're trying to defend human lives, and you know,
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trying to also defend your own life from from you know,
these brutalizers and oppressors. You know, you have to use
what is supplied to you. You know, the shield helped
us block the pepper spray streams that were coming that
were you know, hurting people and blinding people, and you know,
even contributed to Roseanne Boiling's death because she couldn't breathe,
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you know, and so we had to do. You know,
it's unsavory, of course, you know, fighting against tyranny and
defending your country and standing up for innocent, unarmed Americans,
you know, sometimes, you know, it is necessary.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
If if the police had actually attempted to do a
good job during the George Floyd riots, the whole Summer
of Love thing, and and tried harder, whether in Minneapolis
or Portland or anywhere else to keep people who are
trying to invade buildings or let's say, invading police station
in Portland, and the police.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Were keeping them out, keeping these left.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Wing rioters out who were intent on going in and
doing damage or doing who knows what else, would you
have called those police officers oppressors?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh, of course not.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I mean, we're you know, We love the police to
bring order. You know, I serve a god who is
the God of justice, and we've always been back to bla.
I was raised in a family that was back to blue.
And you know, these Capitol Police officers are much different
than your normal you know, county sheriff's house. These guys
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are the guys that come and get your cat out
of a tree. These are the same people that live
in the bubble of Washington, d C. They hate fly
over State America, they hate the Trump deplorables. They do
not you know, they are radical liberals themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Why do you why do you believe that, Jake, Well,
I know that to be true.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I mean, it's ninety three percent liberal voters. They voted
for Kamala Harrison Washington, d C. And on top of that,
there is video footage from before January sixth, you know,
hours before the protest started, of Capitol Police officers standing
in little circles talking amongst themselves, saying they can't wait
to get some and you know, they hate Trump, and
these supporters are discussing you know, white trash and whatnot.
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And so these people were poised and aggressively attacking us
from the onset. They do not like Trump or his supporters,
and they wanted to stir up violence that day so
that they could brutalize people.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
We're talking with Jake Lang.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
He's a founder of Federal Watchdog, which you can find
at fed watchdog dot org and where we talk more
about that in a minute. And Jake spent roughly four
years in prison, including nine hundred days plus in solitary confinement.
(08:26):
I want to get to that in a moment, do you, Jake,
I'm curious what you expected to happen when you went
to d C on January sixth, before going over to
the Capitol building, just you know, the day before, what
did you think January.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Sixth was going to be like?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Oh, you know, we knew that our country was in
grave danger to sole an election and the installment the
communist Budatan installment of Beijing Joe Biden. But we came
with peaceful intentions, your protests, to have our voices heard,
to redress the grievance with our own government. And you
know that's when the orchestrated prepi in January sixth attack occurred.
(09:09):
You know, they bombarded us with chemical weapons, tear gas, concussion, grenades,
pepper ball bullets, and they you know, took a crowd
that was already very you know, emotional. Obviously, patriots are
getting their country stolen and their vote sold from them
are not going to be too happy, and they played
off that emotion. They had the eye infiltrators in the crowd,
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over three dozen of them, and then turned out the
Inspector General's report as finally confirmed, and they orchestrated January
sixth so that they had a pretext to be able
to call Donald Trump and his supporters domestic terrorists, ran
the entire conservative movement as violent extremists, and tried to
prevent Donald Trump from becoming president again. So does it.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Does it matter to you?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Does it or what, if anything? Does it mean to
you that really the vast majority of Americans don't believe
that January sixth was orchestrated, don't believe that the election
was stolen. Really kind of don't believe I almost any
of that stuff that you said. And I would also
note that the the FBI people who were in the
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in the Inspector General's report were were not FBI employees
or agents. They were like informants who were parts of
this group or or that group, and it's a very
different thing.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, there were some chs's, but there were also actually
a couple paid HSS, which.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Is an agent.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I mean, that's an agent of the FBI working in
a you know, extra you know, you know manner. But anyway,
I also would contend with your you know, superlative views
where you say a vast majority of Americans do not
believe the election was stolen. That's untrue. I think that
about fifty percent of Americans believe that the election was stolen.
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And I would say that more than fifty percent of
American support Donald Trump and the January six Ers if
you look at the voting history from this past year.
So I think that we stand on the right side
of history. I think that we stand in the truth.
I believe that the Jans Sixers are have already been
vindicated by President Donald Trump's pardon, but we will be
further vindicated as he sets up a new January sixth
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commission to investigate what really happened that day and as
well as the stolen twenty twenty election will also be unearthed. So,
you know, as many members of the conservative you know,
Conservative inc. Media had originally vilified us and called us
right in there with the you know, the Democrat mouth
pieces in the liberal media. I believe that they also
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have eaten their words now and will continue to eat
their words, and we're going to be continuously vindicated until
I think that people eventually in history will remember January
six ers as patriots and heroes who stood up against tiers,
because that's what it was that day, and that's what
we did, you know, with peaceful intentions in our heart.
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We were attacked first, but we defended, and you know,
history shows very clearly the people at the people's house.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So just a quick thing, a couple of things, and
then I want to move on to your being in
solitary confinement.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So I think I said that I believe a.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Vast majority of Americans don't believe that January sixth was orchestrated.
A majority, I don't know if I would say how
big a majority don't believe the twenty twenty election was stolen.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But in any cases, are not the most important points.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
One quick question before we get to solitary stuff, because
that really troubles me a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You do.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
You think you did anything wrong that day?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I was a man that was defending my life and
defending the lives of innocent women and elderly people around me.
Given the opportunity to defend lives, and I am credited
with saving two people's lives at Day Courts horn Affid
Davids from Philip Anderson and Tommy Datum claim that I
saved their lives. And so, you know, given the opportunity
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to defend human lives and defend my country versus tyranny,
I would have to answer that call. It's the duty
of American men and not just something that you know,
it's not a hobby's something.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
That you can or can't do.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
When you were called upon by God to stand up
and defend the defenseless, you must answer his call.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And so that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Didn't those folks who you were defending, and and folks
who got hurt, especially inside the building or about to
go into the building, didn't they put themselves in that
position by rioting and violating the law. And you know,
you're you're you're talking as if they're innocent victims, and
I don't think they are.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Now, these are brave patriots who stood up to voice
their opinion at the United States Capitol and then we're
attacked first by the Capitol police. We've seen it in
the Jay six Truth Timeline documentary. We've you know, been
vindicated by President Trump recently, he was asked this question
and he also responded the same way, I am the
American people who are attacked that day to Capitol police officers.
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There's a reason why Joe Biden, when he was leaving office,
started pardoning these you know, fake heroes, these Capitol police tyrants,
these jack boot thugs that murdered and stomped upon innocent people.
It's because he knows that they're guilty. He knows that
there were murders that happened that day by Lieutenant Michael
Byrd that shot actually Babid point blank range in the
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throat and unarmed five foot two woman. You know, these
are egregious discussing things that need to be condemned by
both Democrats and Republicans and those who do not condemn
the police of violence that day and tried to justify
it by saying that we had no right to be there.
There is historical precedent for people protesting on the steps
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of the United States Capital. That's happened hundreds of times
in our history before, and I'm sure it'll happen again.
And there's no reason that the people need to be
treated like interlopers. That is, we the people's house, and
we need to be respected while we're exercising our constitutional rights. No, I.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Agree with that.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I think the line has crossed when people are busting
into the building. I'm all for peaceful protests and and
we'll see later what if there is more investigation, you know,
the thing about who attacked who who first. But I
want to get to a couple other things here. I'm
still I'm still bewildered, and I believe you. I'm still
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bewildered that you were in prison for four years without
without a trial, regardless of what I think of anybody's
behavior on January sixth. That shouldn't happen in the United
States of America. Why do you think you were in
prison for four years without a trial.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I was in prison for four years without a trial
because I was a first hand witness to the murder
of Roseanne Boilin. I also fought my case up Disupreme
Court and won.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Fifteen twelve.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Obstruction of Congress was a weaponized politicized charge to twenty
year maximumality. They over broadly applied it, They twisted and
perverted the law code in order to meet their wicked
you know, schemes and prices. These storage soils federal prosecutors
that have all been fired by President Trump and the
new DOJ. We're using the law to harass and to
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you know, oppress Americans. And they were you know, obviously
exposed for this by the Supreme Court who struck down
the charge that they charged over three hundred and sixty
of January six ers with, and Donald Trump was also
charged with the fifteen twelve obstruction of Congress. We beat
them in Supreme Court. That process took over two years,
and I never ended up going to trial after that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
What else were you?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
What else were you charged with that you might have
gone to trial on had you not been pardoned.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I had you know, thirteen count indictment with you know,
many different other boats.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay, yeah, we don't need to go through all of them.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I only have a couple minutes left, and I really
want to get to what might be the most important
thing for me. You say, and again I believe you
that you spent over nine hundred days in solitary confinement.
And this was a thing that did come out, not
just about you, but during this that a lot of
the January sixth ers were kept in solitary And again,
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regardless of what anybody did that day, solitary confinement is
borderline torture.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Say that again.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Sorry, yeah, yeah, So I want you to.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Just tell me a little bit about nine hundred plus
days in solitary confinement.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So, no, solitary confinement is obviously a torture mechanism you
used to try to break a man and his will power.
They wanted to flip us and turn us into government
lap dogs who just you know, beg for a plebeal
and are willing to turn on President Trump in order
to save themselves. That's what they thought would happen. But
we remained firm. We kept praying to our Lord and
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Savior Jesus day in and day out. He gave us
this spirit of courage, and we never relented. I never
took a plea deal, and we fought against a deep
state and we won. I think at the pages of history,
like I said before, we're going to show January sixth
or to be the bold men of courage, like our
founding fathers in seventeen seventy six, when called upon, we
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stood up and we defended our country.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I apologize for the naive question here.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
When you are in solitary, are you able to have
even like verbal contact like yelling through the halls with
other prisoners or are you completely isolated from any kind
of contact with anybody?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And for how many hours a day?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
So it depends on where you're at with facility, but
I'll give you the most egregious circumstances. Twenty three hours
a day inside the cell, and when you want to
go to take a shower, they handcuff your hands behind
your back, you strip naked, then they've bring you to
the showers out and then they unhandcuff you in the shower,
you take a shower, they handcuff you again, bring you
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to a room where you can use the phone for
you know, an hour a day, and well after your shower,
and then they handcuff you again and they bring you
back to your cell. And that's your full day, and
that's how you live for years. I've lived two and
a half years in situations circle you know, similar to that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And when you're in that cell.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Can you talk to someone in the next cell or
you completely isolated?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yes, most of the time you're around other people also
in solitary.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well yeah, I mean, Jake, It's it's a hell of
a story.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I've got just a few seconds left and I just
want to tell us about Watchdog.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I wanted to tell your audiences if you guys are
looking to support the newly liberated January sixth hostages. These
guys are destitute and penniless after four years of you know,
law fare and torture. So guys, please go to J
six Rebuild J six rebuilt dot com. That's letter J
the number six rebuild dot com. You can donate there
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to help these guys get an apartment, get a new
pair of sneakers, some growthries. You know these guys, I'm
talking there are some homeless Jan sixers, So please go there.
That's a Federal watchtof organization, which is my you know,
my mothership for all the Jan Sicks advocacy we do,
including a fifty billion dollar lossuit we're about to file
on the federal government for wrongful incarceration. So please, guys,
(20:27):
if you're able to go to J six rebuild dot
com right now and support the Jan six patriot heroes
who stop to defend this country for to Marxist coup.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
At Jake Lang, You're you're You're an interesting guy. I
agree with you on some things, not on other things.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I do admire your courage and and and not caving
in for the Plea deal uh and uh and I
wish you well, thanks for your time.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Thank you, freedom and free brother.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
God bless you you too, you too,
I've never done this before, but I'm adding this comment
into the podcast after the show. During the interview you'll
hear next You're going to hear me say more than
once that it's wrong that an American should be in
prison for four years without trial, and that is almost
always true. But what I didn't know and probably should have,
and a listener alerted me to after the interview, is
that mister Lang's.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Trial was repeatedly delayed by his own attorneys.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That would also have added to his time in what
he called solitary confinement. Although his ability to speak to
people in cells near him isn't really what I'd think
of his solitary confinement in any case, the fact that
his not going to trial for that long a time
was due to his own choices that certainly changes my
opinion of his situation. I apologize for not finding that
(00:45):
fact in advance, but I want you to have it
in advance of listening to this conversation. And I am
very pleased to welcome to Kowa Jake Lang. Jake has
had an interesting last several years. He was at the
Capitol on January sixth, and we'll talk about how it
was that he ended up getting arrested. He was convicted
(01:08):
and imprisoned, including spending a lot of time in solitary confinement.
We're going to talk about that as well, because I
have a big problem with that.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And then he's pardoned by President Trump and he's founded
a group.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Called Federal Watchdog, and there's a lot of stuff to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So Jake Lang, welcome to KOA. Thanks for being.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Here, Bob, bless you guys. How are you.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Really, jod I've been looking forward to this conversation.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I have.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I have so many things I want to ask you,
and I hope you won't take offense at any questions.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
No, of course, I mean, you know the point about
January sixth that we've been trying to make for years.
You know, I was just part of my President Trump
thirty days ago, you know, released from my prison cell
after four years and six days without a trial, and
you know, we've been fighting for the truth of January
sixth from the very onset, trying to let the American
people know we were not the aggressors. You know, the
(01:59):
Capitol police attack us that day, they took four unarmed
Americans lives, that killed four people, and you know, the
American people reacted as Americans do. We stood up, you know,
we held our ground and we defended our country.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, so, boy, there was a lot there I got.
Oh my gosh, I have so many things to ask you,
But let me just follow up on two things you
said there. So you said you were in prison for
four years without a trial. So are you saying your
case never went to trial and you were not convicted
because I thought you were, but maybe I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
No, that's exactly right what you just said. I was
never convicted. I was held in prison for over four
years without a trial.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Wow, all right, we're gonna come back to that. That
shouldn't happen in the United States.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You you also said that four people died that day
at the hands of law enforcement. I'm aware of one.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
The.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Ashley Ashley Babbitt is oft her name, and so where
who are the other three that I don't know about.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
You have Roseanne Boilin, which is the woman that was
murdered virtually in my arms inside the West Terrace tunnel.
She was trampled and beaten by officer Leila Morris, and
she succumbed to her injuries and died. And you had
two men that also died of heart attacks, Kevin Greeson
and Benjamin Phillips. So you know we had four Americans
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that directly, I mean the heart attacks that happened from
those two men because they got it with concussion carnesis
flash banks flew up at the feet and their hearts
gave out.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Interesting, all right, I see, I see the Roseanne Boilin thing.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'll have to read more about that. And I hadn't
heard that I see it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean in the New York Times, she appears to
have been killed in a crush of fellow rioters.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
But you're saying it wasn't that during their attempt to
fight through a police line. I'm gonna have to go.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Read about that more. I'm a little surprised I hadn't
heard about it before. So let me let me start
with a macro kind of question. So, I I think
that I've seen in some of these articles about you
at the New York Post and elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I think it's you.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But tell me if it's not, who's standing there with
like a gas mask or something in a shield and
an aluminum baseball bat?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Is that you? Yes? That was about ten minutes after
they murdered Roseanne boiling me and a group of men
decided to create like a defensive wall to protect the
other unarmed protesters from the encroaching advancement of the murderous
Capitol police. And so you know, at that point it
was you know, people's and women and elderly people's lives
(04:41):
are on the line, and I had to stand up
and do something.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Did you from that position that I see in the
in the still picture, I don't have video of that,
did you go into the building from there?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Or did you did you stay where you were? Basically
I never really made it into the building.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
It was basically right where.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was right there.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Did you end up in any physical confrontation at any
point with a with a member of law enforcement? And
and where did you get that shield that you were
holding that looks to me like it's a government property? Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The shield was found on the ground being passed around
by the jan sixers. So was the gas mask. And
somebody handed me to that. Actually, uh, the person handed
it to me was an ANTIFA disrupted and so you
know that was very unfortunate. But you know, at that point,
when you're trying to defend human lives, and you know,
(05:39):
trying to also defend your own life from from you know,
these brutalizers and oppressors. You know, you have to use
what is supplied to you. You know, the shield helped
us block the pepper spray streams that were coming that
were you know, hurting people and blinding people, and you know,
even contributed to Roseanne Boiling's death because she couldn't breathe,
(05:59):
you know, and so we had to do. You know,
it's unsavory, of course, you know, fighting against tyranny and
defending your country and standing up for innocent, unarmed Americans,
you know, sometimes, you know, it is necessary.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
If if the police had actually attempted to do a
good job during the George Floyd riots, the whole Summer
of Love thing, and and tried harder, whether in Minneapolis
or Portland or anywhere else to keep people who are
trying to invade buildings or let's say, invading police station
in Portland, and the police.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Were keeping them out, keeping these left.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Wing rioters out who were intent on going in and
doing damage or doing who knows what else, would you
have called those police officers oppressors?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh, of course not.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I mean, we're you know, We love the police to
bring order. You know, I serve a god who is
the God of justice, and we've always been back to bla.
I was raised in a family that was back to blue.
And you know, these Capitol Police officers are much different
than your normal you know, county sheriff's house. These guys
(07:10):
are the guys that come and get your cat out
of a tree. These are the same people that live
in the bubble of Washington, d C. They hate fly
over State America, they hate the Trump deplorables. They do
not you know, they are radical liberals themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Why do you why do you believe that, Jake, Well,
I know that to be true.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I mean, it's ninety three percent liberal voters. They voted
for Kamala Harrison Washington, d C. And on top of that,
there is video footage from before January sixth, you know,
hours before the protest started, of Capitol Police officers standing
in little circles talking amongst themselves, saying they can't wait
to get some and you know, they hate Trump, and
these supporters are discussing you know, white trash and whatnot.
(07:53):
And so these people were poised and aggressively attacking us
from the onset. They do not like Trump or his supporters,
and they wanted to stir up violence that day so
that they could brutalize people.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
We're talking with Jake Lang.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
He's a founder of Federal Watchdog, which you can find
at fed watchdog dot org and where we talk more
about that in a minute. And Jake spent roughly four
years in prison, including nine hundred days plus in solitary confinement.
(08:26):
I want to get to that in a moment, do you, Jake,
I'm curious what you expected to happen when you went
to d C on January sixth, before going over to
the Capitol building, just you know, the day before, what
did you think January.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Sixth was going to be like?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Oh, you know, we knew that our country was in
grave danger to sole an election and the installment the
communist Budatan installment of Beijing Joe Biden. But we came
with peaceful intentions, your protests, to have our voices heard,
to redress the grievance with our own government. And you
know that's when the orchestrated prepi in January sixth attack occurred.
(09:09):
You know, they bombarded us with chemical weapons, tear gas, concussion, grenades,
pepper ball bullets, and they you know, took a crowd
that was already very you know, emotional. Obviously, patriots are
getting their country stolen and their vote sold from them
are not going to be too happy, and they played
off that emotion. They had the eye infiltrators in the crowd,
(09:32):
over three dozen of them, and then turned out the
Inspector General's report as finally confirmed, and they orchestrated January
sixth so that they had a pretext to be able
to call Donald Trump and his supporters domestic terrorists, ran
the entire conservative movement as violent extremists, and tried to
prevent Donald Trump from becoming president again. So does it.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Does it matter to you?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Does it or what, if anything? Does it mean to
you that really the vast majority of Americans don't believe
that January sixth was orchestrated, don't believe that the election
was stolen. Really kind of don't believe I almost any
of that stuff that you said. And I would also
note that the the FBI people who were in the
(10:17):
in the Inspector General's report were were not FBI employees
or agents. They were like informants who were parts of
this group or or that group, and it's a very
different thing.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, there were some chs's, but there were also actually
a couple paid HSS, which.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Is an agent.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I mean, that's an agent of the FBI working in
a you know, extra you know, you know manner. But anyway,
I also would contend with your you know, superlative views
where you say a vast majority of Americans do not
believe the election was stolen. That's untrue. I think that
about fifty percent of Americans believe that the election was stolen.
(11:00):
And I would say that more than fifty percent of
American support Donald Trump and the January six Ers if
you look at the voting history from this past year.
So I think that we stand on the right side
of history. I think that we stand in the truth.
I believe that the Jans Sixers are have already been
vindicated by President Donald Trump's pardon, but we will be
further vindicated as he sets up a new January sixth
(11:23):
commission to investigate what really happened that day and as
well as the stolen twenty twenty election will also be unearthed. So,
you know, as many members of the conservative you know,
Conservative inc. Media had originally vilified us and called us
right in there with the you know, the Democrat mouth
pieces in the liberal media. I believe that they also
(11:45):
have eaten their words now and will continue to eat
their words, and we're going to be continuously vindicated until
I think that people eventually in history will remember January
six ers as patriots and heroes who stood up against tiers,
because that's what it was that day, and that's what
we did, you know, with peaceful intentions in our heart.
(12:05):
We were attacked first, but we defended, and you know,
history shows very clearly the people at the people's house.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So just a quick thing, a couple of things, and
then I want to move on to your being in
solitary confinement.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
So I think I said that I believe a.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Vast majority of Americans don't believe that January sixth was orchestrated.
A majority, I don't know if I would say how
big a majority don't believe the twenty twenty election was stolen.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
But in any cases, are not the most important points.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
One quick question before we get to solitary stuff, because
that really troubles me a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You do.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
You think you did anything wrong that day?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I was a man that was defending my life and
defending the lives of innocent women and elderly people around me.
Given the opportunity to defend lives, and I am credited
with saving two people's lives at Day Courts horn Affid
Davids from Philip Anderson and Tommy Datum claim that I
saved their lives. And so, you know, given the opportunity
(13:11):
to defend human lives and defend my country versus tyranny,
I would have to answer that call. It's the duty
of American men and not just something that you know,
it's not a hobby's something.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
That you can or can't do.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
When you were called upon by God to stand up
and defend the defenseless, you must answer his call.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And so that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Didn't those folks who you were defending, and and folks
who got hurt, especially inside the building or about to
go into the building, didn't they put themselves in that
position by rioting and violating the law. And you know,
you're you're you're talking as if they're innocent victims, and
I don't think they are.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Now, these are brave patriots who stood up to voice
their opinion at the United States Capitol and then we're
attacked first by the Capitol police. We've seen it in
the Jay six Truth Timeline documentary. We've you know, been
vindicated by President Trump recently, he was asked this question
and he also responded the same way, I am the
American people who are attacked that day to Capitol police officers.
(14:11):
There's a reason why Joe Biden, when he was leaving office,
started pardoning these you know, fake heroes, these Capitol police tyrants,
these jack boot thugs that murdered and stomped upon innocent people.
It's because he knows that they're guilty. He knows that
there were murders that happened that day by Lieutenant Michael
Byrd that shot actually Babid point blank range in the
(14:33):
throat and unarmed five foot two woman. You know, these
are egregious discussing things that need to be condemned by
both Democrats and Republicans and those who do not condemn
the police of violence that day and tried to justify
it by saying that we had no right to be there.
There is historical precedent for people protesting on the steps
(14:53):
of the United States Capital. That's happened hundreds of times
in our history before, and I'm sure it'll happen again.
And there's no reason that the people need to be
treated like interlopers. That is, we the people's house, and
we need to be respected while we're exercising our constitutional rights. No, I.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Agree with that.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I think the line has crossed when people are busting
into the building. I'm all for peaceful protests and and
we'll see later what if there is more investigation, you know,
the thing about who attacked who who first. But I
want to get to a couple other things here. I'm
still I'm still bewildered, and I believe you. I'm still
(15:32):
bewildered that you were in prison for four years without
without a trial, regardless of what I think of anybody's
behavior on January sixth. That shouldn't happen in the United
States of America. Why do you think you were in
prison for four years without a trial.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I was in prison for four years without a trial
because I was a first hand witness to the murder
of Roseanne Boilin. I also fought my case up Disupreme
Court and won.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Fifteen twelve.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Obstruction of Congress was a weaponized politicized charge to twenty
year maximumality. They over broadly applied it, They twisted and
perverted the law code in order to meet their wicked
you know, schemes and prices. These storage soils federal prosecutors
that have all been fired by President Trump and the
new DOJ. We're using the law to harass and to
(16:22):
you know, oppress Americans. And they were you know, obviously
exposed for this by the Supreme Court who struck down
the charge that they charged over three hundred and sixty
of January six ers with, and Donald Trump was also
charged with the fifteen twelve obstruction of Congress. We beat
them in Supreme Court. That process took over two years,
and I never ended up going to trial after that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
What else were you?
Speaker 1 (16:45):
What else were you charged with that you might have
gone to trial on had you not been pardoned.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I had you know, thirteen count indictment with you know,
many different other boats.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay, yeah, we don't need to go through all of them.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I only have a couple minutes left, and I really
want to get to what might be the most important
thing for me. You say, and again I believe you
that you spent over nine hundred days in solitary confinement.
And this was a thing that did come out, not
just about you, but during this that a lot of
the January sixth ers were kept in solitary And again,
(17:22):
regardless of what anybody did that day, solitary confinement is
borderline torture.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Say that again.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Sorry, yeah, yeah, So I want you to.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Just tell me a little bit about nine hundred plus
days in solitary confinement.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So, no, solitary confinement is obviously a torture mechanism you
used to try to break a man and his will power.
They wanted to flip us and turn us into government
lap dogs who just you know, beg for a plebeal
and are willing to turn on President Trump in order
to save themselves. That's what they thought would happen. But
we remained firm. We kept praying to our Lord and
(17:59):
Savior Jesus day in and day out. He gave us
this spirit of courage, and we never relented. I never
took a plea deal, and we fought against a deep
state and we won. I think at the pages of history,
like I said before, we're going to show January sixth
or to be the bold men of courage, like our
founding fathers in seventeen seventy six, when called upon, we
(18:20):
stood up and we defended our country.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I apologize for the naive question here.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
When you are in solitary, are you able to have
even like verbal contact like yelling through the halls with
other prisoners or are you completely isolated from any kind
of contact with anybody?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And for how many hours a day?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
So it depends on where you're at with facility, but
I'll give you the most egregious circumstances. Twenty three hours
a day inside the cell, and when you want to
go to take a shower, they handcuff your hands behind
your back, you strip naked, then they've bring you to
the showers out and then they unhandcuff you in the shower,
you take a shower, they handcuff you again, bring you
(19:06):
to a room where you can use the phone for
you know, an hour a day, and well after your shower,
and then they handcuff you again and they bring you
back to your cell. And that's your full day, and
that's how you live for years. I've lived two and
a half years in situations circle you know, similar to that.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And when you're in that cell.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Can you talk to someone in the next cell or
you completely isolated?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yes, most of the time you're around other people also
in solitary.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well yeah, I mean, Jake, It's it's a hell of
a story.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I've got just a few seconds left and I just
want to tell us about Watchdog.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I wanted to tell your audiences if you guys are
looking to support the newly liberated January sixth hostages. These
guys are destitute and penniless after four years of you know,
law fare and torture. So guys, please go to J
six Rebuild J six rebuilt dot com. That's letter J
the number six rebuild dot com. You can donate there
(20:06):
to help these guys get an apartment, get a new
pair of sneakers, some growthries. You know these guys, I'm
talking there are some homeless Jan sixers, So please go there.
That's a Federal watchtof organization, which is my you know,
my mothership for all the Jan Sicks advocacy we do,
including a fifty billion dollar lossuit we're about to file
on the federal government for wrongful incarceration. So please, guys,
(20:27):
if you're able to go to J six rebuild dot
com right now and support the Jan six patriot heroes
who stop to defend this country for to Marxist coup.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
At Jake Lang, You're you're You're an interesting guy. I
agree with you on some things, not on other things.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I do admire your courage and and and not caving
in for the Plea deal uh and uh and I
wish you well, thanks for your time.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Thank you, freedom and free brother.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
God bless you you too, you too,
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