5-22-24 *INTERVIEW* Chris Cuomo the Host of the 'Cuomo' Show on News Nation

Episode Transcript

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My next guest believed that I neededto look up who leverentree let Leventi Veria
was, but I but I didn't. His name is Chris Cuomo on He
hosts a cleverly named Cuomo show onNews Nation, which is the former WGN,
and Chris's show is in Colorado time, six pm hour time, right

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after Leland Vinder's show. They're bothgreat shows. I watched both of them
almost every single night, and Chrisis good to have you back. First
of all, it's a pleasure.Two points of clarification, Okay, yeah,
I don't know whether he looked atup or not. I'm just saying
that the explanation you gave me wasword for word with the first three paragraphs
of Wikipedia. That's that's all I'msaying. Okay, okay, uh huh

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and uh you know. Secondly,me being on with you is a gift,
so thank you for the opportunity.A gift to me or a gift
to you. Oh, gift tome. Oh well, I appreciate that.
All right. Speaking of appreciating things, I'll move away from just very
slight sarcasm. I really enjoyed yourcommentary last night about how both political parties

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are are are focused on benefiting thepolitical parties, which is which is always
true, although it seems even moretrue than usual that they're willing to do
it at the expense of what's actuallygood for the country. And you seem
to be very focused on this.I know it's the root cause of our
trouble. I know it is.It's you know, you know, you

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got to remember something ross, youknow, I was just talking about this
before we came on the show.So I got canned at the end of
twenty twenty one. Okay, soI was off TV for a year.
It was the first time in overtwenty years that I haven't been doing this

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so other than personal travails and dealingwith that and you know, going through
lots of you know, lots ofdifficulties that aren't even over yet. I
also had an opportunity to kind ofassess the world without the exigency the must
of being on TV every day.And after a few months it became crystal

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clear several things, but the twothat matter most for this conversation one,
Wow, most people share the exactsame set of common concerns and are not
bent on showing that the other side. Whoever they're talking to is on a
different side or is wrong, butthat's something special that's not normative. The

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second thing is is that this isthe only place the party system could take
us. It hasn't always been thisway as a matter of degree, but
this is why Washington warned against it. This is why everybody who's warned against
them. This is the only placethe party system can take you. Is
a zero sum You got to losefor me to win. The easiest way

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to establish that is that you areworse, not that I'm better. So
it had to take us here,and I'm hoping that Trump versus Biden is
a wake up call to your viewers. Who are the persuadables, meaning you're
reasonable, they're post left right,they're more just about practicality, pragmatism like

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the rest of our lives. Ohwow, this is what it produced.
This system is broken and I don'twant to be part of it anymore.
We need that culture shift to getto a better place that we're in right
now. I'm confident of it,all right, So, by the way,
for future hits with you, Iwould love to, if you're up
for it, to move you toa slightly different time during the show where

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we can have somewhat longer conversation becausewe only have about another four minutes in
this segment. And Cynthia said,you couldn't do it today, but if
you're willing to talk longer another time, I would love to do that.
Yeah. Absolutely, the time ison your side. Yeah, I go
long as you talk. Okay,Okay, So let me let me just
actually switch gears here and ask yousomething slightly more personal. You write a

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fair bit on Twitter about long COVID, and I don't I don't know anyone
other than you, and I guessI don't know you very well. Who
who says that they've had it,even though I've read stories about it?
So what are symptoms or your symptomsof long COVID? And how confident are

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you that whatever you're dealing with camefrom COVID rather than just general quomoness?
You can't be one hundred on thesethings. And until very recently I had
very respected clinicians saying to me,all my friends call me MO by the
way, so people know me overtime they call me MO from Cuomo.
Okay, Well say to me,hey, listen, well be easy on

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the long COVID thing. We don'treally know that that's what this is and
it's not some other autoimmune thing.Here's what I know. Okay, I
had a bad case of COVID earlyon, I had these symptoms. Now
there's a huge range of what isnow considered long COVID by our government.

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Okay, So it's not me makingit up anymore. They believe in long
COVID. They're studying it. Theyspend one hundred and fifty million dollars on
it this year. That's their budget, their budget line item on it.
It can be heart related, itcan be kidney related. It can be
emotional related, as presenting as mentalillness. The best thing I can give
to people as an analogy is rememberlying disease. You have that out by

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where you are. It's a basketof different things that are bacteria based.
Right with line, this is viral. The spike protein can get into any
issue system in the body and bedisruptive. For me, it's my histamine
response. What does that mean?I get flushed very easily. My allergies

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are now off the charts, andall year long, every virus that I
get kicks my muffin. I canbeat nothing easily. So I found the
doctor named Robin Rose. We starteda substack because I so much fell in
love with her basis of research andher understanding and how many people she's treating

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with this interactional group that she's workingwith. But I said, I want
to do it, and I wanteverybody else to know what I'm doing to
see if it can be helpful forthem. So if you go to my
substack, you'll it's like five bucksa month, and I'm using that money
to help fund treatment for people whocan't afford it. So, you know,
five bucks a month, and wecome on it's like, you know,

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what do you spend five bucks amonth? But you'll get to see
everything she's doing for me. AndI'm telling you, man, millions of
people have this and it's not justfrom the vaccine. I had these symptoms
before I got vaccinated. The vaccinemay also present spike protein related issues.
But long COVID is real. Andhere's the weirds. You and I shouldn't

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be having this conversation because we shouldbe familiar with it because of what the
government's doing. They don't want tolook back at the pandemic. Why because
of what we were talking about.There's no advantage over the other side because
they both own decisions made during thepandemic, so they can't say, damn
Democrats, look what they did tous. Yeah, you see what I'm

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saying, I do. So theyjust don't touch it. No one talks
about it, the biggest catastrophe,and you're in my lifetime as a nation.
No one talks about what was right? What was wrong? Is that
crazy? It is? There's alot crazy about that hole. There's so
many other places to go with that, but in the interesting time, I
won't. We're talking with Cours Cuomo. He hosts The Cuomo Show on News

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Nation six pm Mountain Time. I'vegot about one minute here, and at
the risk of sounding like I'm offeringfree advertising the News Nation, I want
to ask you a question about aboutyour network, and I'm not I want
to be very clear. I'm notasking you does management tell you what to
talk about because they don't and youwouldn't go along with that. I'm asking

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do you get guidance from upper managementin the sense of, hey, gang,
let's try to be a network thatreally is fair and balanced. To
coin a phrase, honest, nonpartisanand try to carve out a space for
truth. That's why Perry started it. Perry Took is billionaire major shareholder of

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Nextstoor, which owns the most TVstations in the country. If you stick
with the local news model, you'llbe fine on cable because it's all about
balancing things. Of course, it'sabout psych made. Of course, it's
about p didny and you know,the shiny thing of the moment. But
the news has always been that andpeople want that stuff so absolutely, at
one hundred percent. NewsNation was createdfor a reason. It is as much

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a mission as it is a business. That's true. Now, Look,
I am not NewsNation. I don'teven know how long I'm going to be
there. I don't even you knowwhat I mean, Like, I don't
know that who knows what the futureholds. And I am very much interested
in figuring out how to access newplatforms that are emerging in the media and

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taking advantage of them. But Ido know that News Nation is only going
to get stronger and stronger, maybeeven more so if I'm not there.
And I think it's a good thingto have, and I think people find
it refreshing. I hear it allthe time, Ross not about me necessarily.
Sometimes I'm like seen as the exceptionwhere you can watch any of the

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shows on there and say, Idon't feel like they're putting it on me,
you know what I mean, Like, I feel like it's up to
me how to feel about this.Well, that's how That's how I feel
about it. That's why I'm watchingmore News Nation than anything else. You
know, when I've got the TV, when I'm watching news and again you
and and and uh and my friendLeland and all the shows, I really

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like them. And I'm not justsaying it because you're here. I you
know, as someone on Twitter askedme the other day, like Ross,
where you think you can get fairnews on TV these days? And I
said, you guys, so uh, keep doing keep doing what you're doing,
Chris telling people listen to me,Ross and people who pick people who
seem to be the opposite of meget a good survey of it, because

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look, let's be honest, peopledon't need what time is it? How
many people died? What are thefacts? Look, if there are discernible
facts, you'll be able to discoverwhat they are. But what do they
mean? What's the why? What'sthe analysis. That's where it gets tricky.
Is COVID real? Is COVID notreal? COVID is real? What

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should we have done about it?Ah? Now it's subjective. Did the
vaccine help? Yes, that's notthat's not a relative assessment. That's not
subjective. How much did it help? Who should have gotten it? Who
did not need to get it?Who's getting sick from it? Now?
Why? How many? What arewe doing? None of these questions have

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been answered. Yeah, I getyou. The answers start to get developed,
people will start spinning them to theiradvantage. And that's why you need
a broad talent, just like yourdiet. Just like your diet. Chris,
looking forward to having you back thenext time. Folks, you can
catch the Cuomo Show on News Nationat six pm Mountain time, and I
encourage you to do so. DVare it as well, Chris, thanks
for your time. Has always talkedto you soon, pleasure, Ross,

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Thank you very much. Tonight Ihave a congressman on him says he wants
the answers to COVID. I guaranteeyou if you watch tonight, he won't
be asking any of the questions thatyou and I were and he's one of
the good guys. Yeah. Bythe way, your interview last night with
the neuralink guy was fabulous. Mytime to talk about it now. But
have your faith in humanity? Yeahhe does. We all still care about

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each other and we're all pulling forNolan. He really does. We are
That's who we are. All right, We'll see you Chris. Thanks