February 15, 2024 • 38 mins
Amy just discovered color matching & it's blown her mind. Her guest, Hannah Garber (a color analyst) breaks it all down for us. Amy met Hannah after she booked an appointment to find out her "season" (she learned she's a 'cool summer' palette, btw) and when Hannah told Amy her underlying skin tone was one that radiates in NAVY BLUE & NOT BLACK Amy was fascinated! She knew she wanted Hannah on the podcast ASAP. Why are we just now learning about this? In a nutshell, we all have certain colors that give us the power to show up with more confidence and look our best. Everything from the way we color our hair, to our makeup choices, the clothing we wear, nail color, jewelry etc..
Amy & Hannah talk about the colors/seasons (winter, summer, spring & autumn), confidence, capsule wardrobes (imagine if getting dressed was easy!!), the science behind it all, how Hollywood uses color matching for character building (shout out Anne Hathoway in Devil Wears Prada) & so much more (like memories of our moms with their signature lip colors & how switching your mascara color from black to brown is a game-changer or vice versa...it all depends on the "season" that you are!)
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Cass up thing little food for yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
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your kick in it with four Thing.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
With Amy Brown, Happy Thursday, four Things. Hannah Garber is
my guest today and she is a personal color I'm
gonna call you stylist, but I know you're an analyst
and you work for House of Color, and I personally
got a color consultation from you and we found my
perfect color. And I'll have Hannah explain exactly what color
(00:52):
matching is in just a second. But I want to
start off with the Dione Sanders quote, which I love
and I've mentioned it several times on the pot before
in years past, probably with our mutual friend Carrie who's
at the Nashville Beauty Girl. But if you look good,
you feel good. If you feel good, you play good,
and if you play good, they pay good. And that's
from Dion Sanders. And looking good and feeling good, you know,
(01:15):
it can be as simple as the color of the
shirt that you're wearing, or the suit or the blazer
or the dress. And you've sold me on the fact
that it can change everything. And when I first heard
about you, it was from Carrie and she these were
the words out of her mouth. It has changed my life.
She was wearing a blue track suit and she said,
you think I look different right now? Because I said,
(01:37):
what did you get more sleeve? Like, what's going on
with you? She goes, it's my blue track suit. I
normally wouldn't ever wear this, but blue is my color.
And Hannah changed my life. So I immediately booked an
appointment with you, paying customer here, and I've already told
so many people that now want to book appointments with you.
And I think confidence is what I think of when
(01:57):
after my appointment with you, Just the confidence that I'm
now going to have. I still have some playing around
to do in my closet, but just elevator pitch color
matching for us.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So color analysis truly is life changing. It's a bit
of a game changer, but especially for women and men.
But for women, we are altering our colors all the time,
literally from our head to our toe, so you know,
our hair, our makeup, the clothing that we put around
our body, to our nails, jewelry. There is so much
and there's so much decision fatigue, Like, how do I
(02:27):
know what's the best for me with this? It's using
actual science to match first your natural undertones. So that's
how I started with you. So I determine your undertones
and then based on that, you will fall into one
of four seasons, which is either warm based or cool based.
You are a cool summer, as we now, living her
best life.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well, when I walked into your office, do you remember
what I said? Okay, well I do, because I was
very sad because I walked in in all black, and black,
by the way, is not cool summer best, not my best,
but of course those black cats. I'm looking at a.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Black ceiling right now. But anyway, yes, proceed.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yes, And I looked at the wheel and I thought, oh,
I hope I'm autumn. And I was just fingers crossed
the whole time. And as you were doing the whole
process on me, we were discovering slowly but surely that
I am not autumn at all. But that's normally what
I've gravitated towards, and so it was interesting to see
(03:25):
I'm absolutely not that at all. And now some things
make sense of When I've gone to my closet and
put on an outfit the very next day, and maybe
the day before, who knows what I was wearing, but
it was probably in my color palette, and I felt
more confident and nothing about me had changed in that
twenty four hours. But yet I would look in the
mirror and be like, something is just off and not right.
But oh well, I don't have time to deal with this.
I'm just going to go to work. But the simple
(03:48):
outfit color could change everything. And we determined that a
cool summer power color, yes is French navy.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Ooh so just.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
A navy blue, so in honor of you, and that
I'm a navy blue thing under my denim, which I
can wear. But something you said to me that I
found very interesting and I think would be beneficial for everybody
to know their power color is you looked at me
and you said, next time you have an important work meeting,
you're doing any type of negotiation, or you need to
have some authority or confidence when you're walking into your room.
(04:16):
She's like, you walk in wearing French navy.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
That's right, it's your power color.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And now I know. And I went into my closet
and of course, this sweatshirt is the only like maybe
thing that I work on it.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We'll work on it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'll build my capsule wardrobe, which I thinks a gift
that you probably give a lot of your clients is
they can build a wardrobe that makes it effortless and
there is no stress getting ready because you can actually
minimize and save money. You're not out buying all these
clothes that you end up not liking, and then you
have your capsule wardrobe and so no matter what you
walk in and put on, you're gonna feel good.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Absolutely well, if you've ever noticed, like if you see
somebody online and they're wearing something and you think, oh,
you know, I just saw this on Instagram, reules, I
want to buy that, Like I love this influencer and
what she's wearing. And then you buy it, and for
some reason you do not like how the way you
look and feel in it. You loved it on her right,
maybe because it was true to her natural coloring, maybe
(05:13):
because it honored who she really truly is. And then
I think what had happened with you? You were sort
of living your best autumn life just sort of unknown.
But now when we pull in the colors that are
true to you, like everything just becomes in harmony, and
that's when you can really get that confidence that takes
you from literally like zero to one hundred immediately and
nothing changed but the colors you're surrounding yourself in.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And so another thing that comes into play would be
like mascara, which I never thought of this. I have
always tried to get the blackest.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Of black, oh jet black, let's go, yes.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Whatever it is. I thought that that would help me
feel more awake and that would do me more favors.
And then you said, no, now that you're cool summer,
you need brown lashes, so brown mascara, and I immediately
text it Amy Shoes. My last person, I was like,
do you even make brown last you? Like?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Do people do that?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yes, yes they do.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And sure enough she said, yeah, I have plenty of
people that do it. And I thought, well, shoot, how
did I never know about this? And you kind of
want everybody to be trained in this, ye, because you've
even mentioned to me that my highlight and nails hair,
all of it, or yeah, my highlights were a little
You might be a.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Warm light bit warm, but you're like real close, real close.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But a simple change is like mascara, you can just run.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm looking at you right now. Your eyes look. I
mean you probably got up at an ungodly hour as
well this morning, but your eyes look even more open
and alert than the first time I.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Met you, because I've already transitioned ron.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's right. So the transition has begun.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
We moved fast. Well, now I already happen to have
an appointment. But you can go and change your mascuit color,
your eyeliner color. You know you mentioned nail color I
brought you that I'm thinking about putting on, but I
want to know it proves proved. It's called Fierce and
Loving and it's a little olive in June.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Okay, so looking at that, So the colors of summer,
they're soft, they're cool, they're smoky. There's a rose undertone.
Does it fit that? I think so? Absolutely. It has
a nice cool base to it. Absolutely. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So this was just a little check listing for me.
It's like I'm doing my homework. I feel like you'll
train the eye and things will get easier. But you
do give people a color wheel or the season. Yes,
and so I have the wheel, and you know you
can go shopping with it and make sure, it matches.
But for people that maybe don't have the wheel or
(07:34):
they're not going to have an appointment with you, how
would you recommend they go about shopping for their power
color once they figure it out. I mean, I saw
I was doing some research and I saw there's different
apps that people have, and I know that one on
one with you would be the most accurate, perfect scenario.
But for someone that doesn't have access to that, how
do they go about finding their color at top?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay, that's tough. So there's some old folklore out there
that people will say, oh, if you just look at
your veins, and that's actually not completely accurate. The most
accurate way to determine your undertones and your season is
to have an in person appointment. Now, there are people
all over the country that do this. It is very niche.
It is very sort of like secret society, though there's
(08:16):
not a lot of us. If there's not house of
color near you, I would even just start like kind
of looking at your family and you can run around
the house with like different color swatches. We've seen some
of this online already, where people are sort of trying
to figure out out online. But you know, even ask
your mom and your grandma, Like, Mom, do you guys
know like maybe what my season would be or do
(08:37):
you know what yours was? Because this was huge back
in the eighties. You had color analysis done. That was
like getting a flu shot. You just did it like
everybody'd and then it sort of like went away. But
it is back with like full energy now and everybody's
all in.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That makes me think of steel magnolias. Yes, Julia Roberts's
character wedding, she's having, well they say pink and pink
at her wedding, but she calls it blush and bashful. Yes,
my colors, my collar pink and pink, and so she
knew her colors, and so for me, I would have
never gravitated towards I'm using the nail polish as an
(09:11):
example because I don't know that I would have done
this like purply pink situation.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's like a lilac Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But now I'm so excited that I know this will
look good on my skin and I'm going to wear
it with my mushroom colored dress.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Didn't even know that was a thing, but I happen
to have one in my closet and mushroom is one
of my colors.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's outstanding on you.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And so I will say, once you do start to
figure some stuff out, it does get exciting. And I'm
more I'm excited down the line because I still have
to build my closet, but I am so pumped to
go into my closet stress free and know that I'm
going to feel confident no matter what. And I know
so many of my listeners are looking for that just
extra kick of confidence, and I love that this is
(09:51):
something that is doable, but I imagine takes some patience, but
it could be. Yeah, we've mentioned nail color, mascara, clothing,
or a blush even or the wrong lip color can
change everything.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I always tell people to focus on their cameo first.
So pretty much anything that is, you know, shoulders up.
If your hair is colored correctly, now nature always gets
it right, so you don't have to worry about that.
If you don't use any coloring, you're going to be good.
But really focusing on your makeup and hair, and then
we can build clothing as time allows, but it takes
(10:24):
about three years, so you need to go through each
season twice to start replacing and filling those holes in
your closet, so don't feel like you have to like
have it immediately overnight. But eventually my goal is one
to teach you how to fish, Like I want you
to be able to go out into the wild, even
online and make purchases that are going to be the
best for you. And then also if you could just
(10:45):
walk into your closet blind, like I know you're up
super early that you probably are like fully kind of
blind anyway at that time, so you could walk in
and grab like a shirt and a bottom without even
looking at it, and you know they're going to work
well together. I mean, isn't that like the dream for
all of us? A capsule wardrobe that actually serves you
and it doesn't just have to be black, white and
(11:05):
gray like Pinterest was trying to tell us years ago.
You can have a capsule wardrobe that has color, but
color that serves you.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You were talking about blush me before we started recording,
and that at my age I'm forty two almost forty three,
you were watching me put blush on and I kind
of put it lower onto my cheek, like you know,
you smile and make.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
The little apples of your teeth.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, yeah, and then you're like, oh, tutu at your age,
start to take it a little bit higher, up on
the cheekbone and up towards the eye, like the orbital
bone ish area. So can you explain why that is so?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Pretty much? And respectfully, I am forty three, so you
know we're in the same wheelhouse here. But if you're
over twenty five, you know, we get online and we
watch all these you know, masterminds on TikTok and Instagram,
and they're doing these like wonderful face beats. But I'm
in my forties. If I apply that technique to my skin,
it's going to be a flop. Like it's not going
(11:57):
to be the best. So we all grew up with
our moms say and smile, and we put the blush
on our cheeks. However, I want you to now start
going higher. Like feel if you physically touch your face
and feel where the bones are, it's gonna feel a
little bit uncomfortable, Like I'm not supposed to put blush here,
but I want it's very close to the eye, but
I want you to go up and lift and up
(12:17):
to the temples. It's actually just going to like snatch
and lift your face up. We'll take all the help
we can get, Okay. I mean, listen, I thought that
forty a good prote You were like putting it anyway
a fairly.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I was putting it really low and create sagging.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
My It's like it's like an instant face lift just
by using your blush differently, small technique yep.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
And so I imagine a lot of women get the
stun but do men get it done? Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yes, all the time, absolutely. And men, you know, for them,
it's they need suiting, they need tie colors, they need
to know if they're allowed to get into the just
for men box, like is that going to work for
them or not? And it really does help because men
have historically always sort of like had a capsule wardrobe.
But now they'll know for sure, like if they're going
(13:01):
to go invest in something or I had a client
recently that came in he lost a bunch of weight,
and it's like, if I'm going to go buy new clothes,
let me make sure it's correct, Like, let me make
sure it's actually doing some work for me and not
working against me.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And the working against is like the color can look
okay on you because there was some when you were
doing the color lifting, like the swatches on my chest.
So if you can imagine it, it's like there's these
handkerchiefs and they're.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Laying on like giant bibs.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Giant bibs. Yeah, and they're all different colors, and she's
just like whipping them off. But you're looking in a mirror,
and it was crazy to see how in one color, okay,
find that there I am. That's me. I feel like
I look okay, and then bam, you would whip it
to the navy or something, and I looked brighter and
more alive. Nothing changed except for the color. And then
you would lift that one off and I would be
(13:49):
back to maybe like all of the color. And I
looked which I've worn. I had some olive eyeliner, I
have not, and I give it away. I don't know
that your spposed to share that stuff. But I looked
like jaundice and.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So sickliness came over your skin tone.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I know. And it was because I was watching it
happen in real time, Like the contrast was like boom boom.
I don't know that I would have noticed it if
it's like one day where all if and the next
day where maybe right, but seeing in that moment totally.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And I think as women, you know, because we have makeup,
so that has made a lot of our colors work
or like we've been able to sort of get away
with it or things have been passable, but we also
never had that instant comparison. But I really believe it
takes you from good to great. So these are tools,
not rules, Like if I see you in the streets,
(14:39):
I'm not going to issue a fashion ticket if you're
wearing black, right, And there's situations in life where we're
going to have to wear colors that are out of
our season, whether it's like uniform or funerals or oh also.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That yeah, I'm a rising in a wedding tomorrow and
the dress is black.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, But the good news is your makeup is correct,
lashes are on point, like the skin is going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's all I don't really care. It's all about the bride,
so I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Also true, right, what a great technique.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But who knows there might be a single guy there
or something also a good point, so why not dating now?
And I think for some people, who knows why you
need the confidence. Maybe you're dating, maybe you're looking for
a job promotion. And on the next thing, I want
to kind of get into that, like why is it
that when we walk into a room in our right
color does the game change for us? Because you were
(15:26):
saying to me, like, more people will talk to you,
more people will take you serious. Wild, So I want
to get into that next. And jewelry color because silver
versus gold that matters too, which blew my mind. And
then also Hollywood and how they play around with this
and basically brainwash us when we're watching movies. Second thing, Okay,
(15:55):
so let's say I have a very important meeting. I
walk in with my French Navy. Now I know that
I feel more confident, but why are other people taking
me more seriously if I'm in my power color?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So the brain loves to see things in harmony. For example,
if you've ever been online and you watch the video,
this is a wild example, but like you're literally watching
someone just stack things up esthetically, maybe they're cleaning the refrigerator.
Everything is in alignment. When you are in a color
that is in alignment with who you are, truly, like
(16:30):
your internal coloring. Everything looks in line to the brain,
and that makes us think that is a good thing,
Like everything looks as it should be, and so therefore
I immediately feel like you are more trustworthy, You're more believable,
versus you coming in in olive green. I would actually
(16:51):
be concerned potentially for your well being because I just
think I was sick, be like, ooh, maybe Amy needs
to go home today and not I don't know, be
here for her meeting. But the brain that can recognize
things that are in alignment, and so when we see that,
it's good.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well and being a female walking into a room, especially
if we're giving a presentation, however, we are wanting to
be taken more seriously. Like I know that men do
the color matching, but even if they didn't, I feel
like they get a certain amount of attention they totally
for being a man.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That's just the reality of it. So men when they
walk into a room, whether they have a dirty golf
shirt on or a suit, they just already command a
little bit more power than women. That is just the reality.
And so when we walk into a room where we
want to be on an equal playing field, we have
to bring more authority. So having this superpower in your
(17:44):
pocket is going to give you that ability to walk
in and be at a level playing field.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And so what is it with the jewelry part too,
because I was shocked to know that silver looks good
on some people and gold, like, yes, you were even
showing me, like you held it up and you're like,
this silver on someone that shouldn't be wearing it, it's
going to look really cheap, yes, but you put it
on the right person, which I should be wearing silver,
and I definitely always have worn more gold, right, and
(18:12):
you're like, it will look great on you, which I'm
hoping so because I just ordered nine dollars silver earrings
on Amazon and I would like for them to look
at st r.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We need that nine dollars to stretch too. So now,
so if you are warm based, so think about gold
by nature. If you think about the color, it's warmer,
so it is just going to amplify off of those
warm colors and warmer skin tones, and it's just the
opposite with cool. So cool looks better with icy or silver.
(18:40):
As a summer you also get rose gold a little
extra something special for you as well, So you get gold,
but it's like a pinkish rose gold and it's just
going to harmonize beautifully.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And you can still mix metals, oh whatever your primary
metal is, so like I should stick with silver, but
I can throw in gold absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So for example, my sister she had her colors done.
She's a Gucci girl, so like, you know, it's everything
is with the gold, right, the embellishments, all the Gucci stuff.
She's like, I have so much gold. What do you
mean what do you mean you want me to wear silver?
I said, just drip some in, do a mixed metal.
I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. But also,
jewelry is smaller scale on your body, you know, like
(19:18):
for example, your jacket that is like covering half of
your body, where jewelry isn't gonna do that. So it's
a smaller scale. Tools not rules. But yeah, I prefer
a little silver on you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I love that saying tools.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Tools not rules. I have to remind people because people
get pretty militant about it. I mean they will go
burn down their closets and I'm like, you can't also
be naked, like you have to have clothing, So don't
put this pressure on yourself that you know. We did
a quick walk through your closet and there's a lot
of autumn in there.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But like, yes, of course, that's why I wanted to
be autumn, because I that just what I am.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
You're masking.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You're masking even this room in my house, in these chairs,
like I love these burnt orange chairs.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Love color, and that's okay. And on a like we
can love and appreciate color. You just won't wear a
dress like that. Or you also can, but we know.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Not anymore because I won't feel as confident. I do
think there is something to it, and you mentioned earlier
it is science. There is a reason why. And now
I know my undertone. I now have the tools and
you know, I will follow the rules ish, but I
can see how people might go overboard and be like,
oh now I can't wear anything. Well, it's already helped
me weed out some things I was holding onto that
(20:28):
I was unsure do I want to give this away?
Do I want to sell it? And now I know
with clarity, oh, perfect, this is a no brainer. I'm
going to get rid of this. I'm going to either
put it on poshmark or I'm gonna donate it or
give it to a friend that may want it, And
it's made that process easier for me because I don't
know why. Sometimes we hold onto stuff that we know.
(20:48):
We just go up and clothing investment, Yeah, permission, permission,
yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And then the next time, So for example, the rehearsal dinner, right,
you can now make it choice based on what you
do have on hand to decide do I want to
break the rules or do I really want to show
up as my best? Do I really want to Like,
if we're running to the grocery store and it's not
that serious and do you want to wear all black
and your fuzzy shoes, then do it. But also if
(21:16):
you're going to walk into a contract negotiation, hmmm, we're
not going to be wearing all black, like we're going
to be coming in a power color. Or if we're
going on a first date, you know, we're going on
a powerful zoom call. We're going to be in your
best We're gonna make intentional decisions based on that.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Which I'm so thankful for this information for myself because
I would have normally walked into a business meeting in
all black because I would have thought that demanded attention
and that equaled power.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Here's the thing about black, You could also use it
as a weapon, so be careful because it's not your best.
Black can look too heavy and kind of garish on you.
Meaning hmm, I don't know that I like her as
much as I thought I did. I don't know that
I'm going to give her the bonus. I don't know
if I want to give her that sponsorship deal because
(22:01):
she's rather intimidating in all black, right, But then you
appear in your beautiful summer hues, immediately appear more open,
more trustworthy, relatable. They're like, who do I write the
check to?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's a perfect way for us to go into the
next thing where I want to talk about Anne Hathaway
and Devil Wears Praduct and what Hollywood does with it too,
which I think can transition into real life, and how
we obserately as well. Are Okay, So Devil Wears Prada,
love it? Anne Hathaway, her character, which if someone listening
(22:39):
has not seen that movie, highly recommended. It's so good.
But her character is one way in the beginning and
then makes a transition. And so what did Hollywood do
with her wardrobe and her color specifically.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Okay, So Hollywood uses this against us all the time.
So when there's a character that they don't want you
to like, they will specifically him or her in colors
that are not their best. So when Anne Hathaway is
going through that movie in the beginning, she's very entitled
and she thinks she is above this job, and they're
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dressing her kind of drab. They're dressing her in colors
that frankly the cerulean, right, it looks a little cheap
on her. Then the makeover section of the movie appears,
all of a sudden, she's coming out in really strong black,
a super bold red lip. Her confidence is through the roof,
and it's like, all of a sudden, you love this
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character and you are rooting for her, and I believe
she's a Winter. I mean, she hasn't been to the
studio yet, but she's probably a Winter. So that just
spoke true to her, like she went from meek and
sort of entitled to this powerhouse woman in her season.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Do you have friends sort of like I would imagine
if you're a doctor, your friend's probably like, hey, I
feel little cough, Like what do you think it is?
Or therapist, Hey, my boyfriend just did this. I guess
you mentioned your sister earlier. But do people sometimes and
they're like, oh, can you just tell me real quick,
like should I be wearing this? Yes? Or no? And
is it that simple for you?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
No, I mean I will tell you this. So, for example,
when I pick up my kids in the car rid
pickup line, my son who is ten and he's a
winter as well, but we'll be driving by the teachers
that are waving, and he has turned to me and
been like, Mom, do you think she's in her season?
Like is she wearing her colors? And I've had to
tell I don't think she is. I don't know. I'm
not sure what is going on there, but no, I
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don't think she is. And sometimes it's just you can
see that things are not in harmony, Like I can't
tell what it is at a first glance, but I
can identify that something is off, something is not in
alignment there. But you know my phone is it keeps
busy with help and assistance. It's like a nine to
one to one fashion emergency line.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, I can see how that. You know I'm probably
going to be texting I hope you do the same
And yeah. And I'm thinking back even on Anne Hathaway's
character on this product and how I saw that transition, like, yeah,
something's off. And you mentioned that her clothes looked cheaper,
which her character couldn't afford some of the high fashion
or any of the high fashion where she was working,
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so it looked opposite. But it's interesting that if you're
in your right color and it's in alignment, something that
might look cheap on someone else could look very very
expensive on the right skin tone. So it's not how
much you're spending at all. Like there's great finds. I
even found this one blog. I was doing some research
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last night and there was one girl. I'm sure if
you looked it up, but she color matches Target finds.
Oh yes, by season. Yeah, so she has it all
mapped out and it's everything that is at Target at
that moment that would be in cool summer and also
the cool autumn, and she had the springing and the winter.
So I was like, oh, this is really resourceful. So
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you know, I know we were talking about how can
people figure out their color? I mean, maybe you're not
going to get a spot on as if you had
a one on one session with someone, but you can
get close. And then there's so many amazing people out
there that are putting up resources and tools online that
make shopping easier so that you can be like, Oh,
here's all the cool summer things at Target. And the
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summer throws me because I'm thinking, oh, this is what
I'm going to wear in the summer, right right, but
this is my year round color. Yes, cool summer. And
there's awesome people out there that are putting together.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
The resources that a wormhole online. So just be forewarned.
And also I do to give you this cautionary tale.
When you do start dressing, makeup, hair lashes, all done
in your correct season, you will notice a shift like
it's not creepy, but it's just like we look at
a sunset and we can all agree that it's like
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a beautiful place to rest your eyes. You in turn
become this beautiful place for people's eyes to rest. So
I can feel it, and you'll notice, like you'll walk
into a store and you can just feel a gaze.
It's real. It's like literally your vibrations go higher. So
just before warned.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Okay, I like high vibes, high vibes. My cat was
just over here a second ago.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
The vibes are high.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
She's like a creamy color, and you told me that
she is my color.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
She looks like a latte, you know what I mean.
And I just feel like that's the summer, Like the
summer has that smoky like. Your browns are not a
tan and akoonyak. They are the kind of brown when
you put cream and coffee and it's just this beautiful
kind of brond. And yeah, I think your cat's a summer.
You can have that one for.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Free, thanks. Yeah, so when I dress her, I'll make.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yes. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I do love her color of she's beautiful. And that
brings me back to hair too. I know you mentioned
I had some warmer but once you figure out your color,
you can even go to your hair person, Like at
my next appointment, since I'm a cool summer, you were
telling me that I should tell my hair person, yeah,
that I need more cooler highlights.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Right, So, we don't want to put a lot of
warmth in your hair because your undertone is cool, so
that can distract and kind of put some sallowness in
your skin. We don't want that, so we want to
keep it very cool and kind of topy, like your
blonde doesn't need to have a lot of brass or
gold in it, more of like an ash cool blonde
with your highlights. And even like you're all over base
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color keeping that more of like a neutral brown versus
anything particularly warm or chest out.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I've always asked for chest and I'm like, more honey, please,
more honey. And so now I know and I share that.
I get a lot of people listening. They may not
even be cool summer, so they don't need to know
the details of it. But it's that once you learn this,
you can take this information too. Oh, your stylist or
your hair person.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Like you can help saving money, like for years, I
mean we probably have both spent. I mean, how much
makeup did we just clean out of your drawer?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I mean it probably was a inspired anyway and needed
to go because I don't wear that much stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Also true, but like from makeup to our hair appointments,
all of these things, once you really identify your season,
you're not spending so much money, Like, Okay, it's October,
I have to go warm now, No you don't, Like
you can kind of stay in your lane with your
hair and be authentic to you all year round, but
it really helps. Like I'm very thankful. My daughter is
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also a summer she's fourteen. We have this information now,
so she will not have these terrible hair dye mistakes
that I went through. She won't invest in a bunch
of makeup and clothing that isn't really doing anything for her.
She knows she's got the secret sauce.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Now, No, that's awesome. Which next I want to get
into how you even got into this and some more
of the science behind it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
All, okay, fucking.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay. So I never even knew something like this existed.
You mentioned earlier that in the eighties it was so
popular everybody was doing it. How did you find out
about it? How did you, I guess, get trained with
House of Color and decide to do it and knew
that you were good at it because I could imagine
some people try and that they just can't fight get
it down, which would be horrible if you ended up
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going to somebody that gave you the wrong color. Yeah,
but thankfully you came highly recommended, so I knew that
I could trust you. But I imagine everybody with House
of Color, if they're trained, Yes, And I guess certified. Right,
so then you've passed some tests.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Oh, yes, I passed all the desks. I'm not colorblind,
so we have that going for me, which is great.
But no, I actually started my whole adult life. I've
worked in the music industry. My husband was in live sound,
I was at a booking agency. We started a family,
and it became very clear that having careers like that
with small children is very difficult, so I took more
(30:59):
of an entrepreneurial route. My best friend in Texas calls
me up one day. She had been in an event
the night before and said, oh my gosh, we have
to go get our colors done. I just was at
this party last night and this girl said that's one
of my wow colors. Had no idea what she was
talking about. She calls me and says, we need to
open a bit, like we need to open the franchise.
Just immediately, I was like, oh, okay, all right. So
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at the time, there was no one in the state
of Tennessee. So I drove to Kentucky when rainy Saturday morning,
had my colors done. Totally found it to be life
changing and knew this could be amazing for the Nashville area.
So jumped in feet first, head first, all of it.
Her and I went through the training together. So she
has a franchise in Texas. I'm here in Nashville and
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slowly but surely just kind of like building and getting
the word out.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Well, so, how many years have you been doing it?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I actually started the process at the end of twenty
twenty one.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Okay, yes, and you're already making quite the name for yourself.
I thank you hell that you're having an impact because
of you know what I'm hearing from people. I had
another friend that brought her daughter, and yes, it was
an emotional experience because she felt like, finally.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Oh like see confidence.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yes, she's you know, really young twenties, and I feel
like that's such a tricky time for us. So have
you found it to be super rewarding helping people with
their confidence in that way?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I love it so much. It's the full picture. I mean,
it's not just this shallow you know, why do you
need to pay someone to tell you what colors to wear?
It's way bigger than that. It's so much more than that.
Like it is is that ripple effect like the quote
you said earlier, like when you feel good and you
you look good, you feel good. That's going to effect
and ripple out everything that you do every day, every moment,
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how you treat your family, your mood. So why not, like,
why not be able to build that confidence. But no,
I if people aren't laughing, crying, or having super core
memories in the session, then I'm not doing my job.
Like all of those things happen. It's wild.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, I thought of my mom multiple times during that
because my mom always wore this coral lipstick and my
mom had black hair. He would not be the same season.
But I remember my mom never leaving the house without
her lip color. Oh yeah, and that was probably that generation.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
They were born with a lipstick in hand.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
When I would leave with no lipstick, she'd be like,
why aren't you gonna put on your lips? Yes, And
I'm like, nope, I don't have many lips. I do
now now as today the House of Clover.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
That's like your signature lip right there.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Ry puns about this, but I was thinking of my
mom and that was a special memory that came up
for me and her coral lipstick. In fact, my sister
and I've been playing phone tag, but I was going
to talk to my sister and be like, do you
remember mom and her coral lipstick. My aunt Lisa, she
passed away last March, and she loved this Laoreal lip color.
She'd been wearing it for decades and Loreal discontinued it,
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so she had gone online and purchased whatever she could
find anywhere and like, yeah, whoever the youth one.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
On eBay, we don't care, we're getting it.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
She was buying it. But at her funeral last March,
she was buried with her lipstick. I know that sounds
totally cheesy, but she was of my mom's generation and
they were best friends and she never had.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Her never a moment without it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
In her hospice care, she looked at her daughter and said,
when I leave this earth, please make sure my lips
are on, Like I want to look good when I go.
Her husband had passed away years ago, and she's like,
when I see your dad again, that is have my
lips on. And so yeah, she got buried with a
tube of her favorite lipstick. But I could see how
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core memories do come up or special things, and it
can be an emotional experience in thinking of my mom
and what color she would be and looking at that wheel,
what's the science behind what colors go where?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
So this goes back way far back. So we're going
to go over to Europe now, so we're in Germany.
It's the eighteen hundreds and they is an artist by
the name of Johannes Itten. He was a Swedish painter
and during that time this was a kind of like
a modern art school. So he took the color wheel
and then like flipped it on its head, so kind
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of like when you pull out your iPhone and you
go to editf photo, there's hugh contrast saturation. So before
it was just the color wheel, but now he went
and took it a step further into you know, for example,
summer being blended contrast softer chromas right, So he put
them into sections and from him is where sort of
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the season science comes from. But they found they would
study children, and they would study a lot of other artists,
and what they realized is people are born with an
attraction inherently to their own coloring. But what happens is
as we age, we sort of lose that superpower. Like
you've always been really attracted to autumn colors. Sometimes that
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ranged true for people and in fact, you could have
been an autumn, but you may have lost that somewhere
along the way, Like for me when you pulled out
the crans when I was a little girl, I was
reaching for purple, pink and blue, and I'm a winter
and that actually is true to me. But sometimes we
have sort of color bias, like maybe mom was always
pushing like maybe she loved the coral, so you thought
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maybe you liked those warm colors. Or Grandma used to say, oh, honey,
you look so good in olive, maybe because she liked it. Right,
So we have some of that color bias. But the
reality is your undertones are your undertones, and they will
never change and they will always be the same. But
the color wheel and the science all goes back to
Johanna sit and yes, well.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
And so since your color is your color and it's
not going to change, what about if I get a
spray tan, because I'm getting one at tonight. Let's go,
So this my mushroom dress and my silver ear. Oh
it's gonna be clover, lipstick are still going to work.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Amazing, It's going to be amazing. I personally think summers,
although you are cool, based look beautiful with a little
sun kiss. Now my tip would be, but we've already
taken care of this, reach out to your suntan artists
and say, hey, come to find out, I do have
cool undertones, so when it comes to the mix, let's
just be aware of that, you know, so that we
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don't get you. If people ever ended up with like
those really bad spray tnds in the past, it's probably
because it was too orange for their undertone.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay, Well, and I thought my spray tan person that
was going to think I was crazy for texting or this,
and she goes, oh, no, I have clients that talk
I got you all the time. I'm like, well, who's
holding out on me here? Because I thought I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Secrets revealed today right here live.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
When I go to my hair person, I feel like
she might be like, oh, yeah, I got you. Yeah,
I've had clients recommend this before, so it's really fascinating.
It's so interesting, and I am grateful to have met you.
So I'm glad to have you as a client. Yeah,
I'm your client. I'm so glad to be your client.
Let's do it, yes, and also keep recommending you to
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a lot of people, so where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Okay, so House of Color Nashville underscore Hannah on Instagram.
You can also go to House of Color and you
can find a consultant near you by just putting your
zip code in. There's about three hundred of us in
the US, so it's a very sort of niche, very
unique situation. But we would love to have you.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
And Color does it have a U, It does collure?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yes, we are a UK based company, so a lot
of this comes from Europe.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yes. Well, Hannah, thank you so much, appreciate you, and
hopefully this is helping a lot of people at least
take a step in the direction towards more confidence, more power,
more authenticity by stepping into who you truly are and
that you'll be killing it whatever you're doing. You'll walk
in the room, you'll be radiant. You'll be looking your
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best and feeling your best.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
The vibes are high.
Cass up thing little food for yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Life. Oh it's pretty bad. Hey, it's pretty beautiful. Thing
beautiful that for a little more. It's exciting, said he
your kick in it with four Thing.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
With Amy Brown, Happy Thursday, four Things. Hannah Garber is
my guest today and she is a personal color I'm
gonna call you stylist, but I know you're an analyst
and you work for House of Color, and I personally
got a color consultation from you and we found my
perfect color. And I'll have Hannah explain exactly what color
(00:52):
matching is in just a second. But I want to
start off with the Dione Sanders quote, which I love
and I've mentioned it several times on the pot before
in years past, probably with our mutual friend Carrie who's
at the Nashville Beauty Girl. But if you look good,
you feel good. If you feel good, you play good,
and if you play good, they pay good. And that's
from Dion Sanders. And looking good and feeling good, you know,
(01:15):
it can be as simple as the color of the
shirt that you're wearing, or the suit or the blazer
or the dress. And you've sold me on the fact
that it can change everything. And when I first heard
about you, it was from Carrie and she these were
the words out of her mouth. It has changed my life.
She was wearing a blue track suit and she said,
you think I look different right now? Because I said,
(01:37):
what did you get more sleeve? Like, what's going on
with you? She goes, it's my blue track suit. I
normally wouldn't ever wear this, but blue is my color.
And Hannah changed my life. So I immediately booked an
appointment with you, paying customer here, and I've already told
so many people that now want to book appointments with you.
And I think confidence is what I think of when
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after my appointment with you, Just the confidence that I'm
now going to have. I still have some playing around
to do in my closet, but just elevator pitch color
matching for us.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So color analysis truly is life changing. It's a bit
of a game changer, but especially for women and men.
But for women, we are altering our colors all the time,
literally from our head to our toe, so you know,
our hair, our makeup, the clothing that we put around
our body, to our nails, jewelry. There is so much
and there's so much decision fatigue, Like, how do I
(02:27):
know what's the best for me with this? It's using
actual science to match first your natural undertones. So that's
how I started with you. So I determine your undertones
and then based on that, you will fall into one
of four seasons, which is either warm based or cool based.
You are a cool summer, as we now, living her
best life.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well, when I walked into your office, do you remember
what I said? Okay, well I do, because I was
very sad because I walked in in all black, and black,
by the way, is not cool summer best, not my best,
but of course those black cats. I'm looking at a.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Black ceiling right now. But anyway, yes, proceed.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yes, And I looked at the wheel and I thought, oh,
I hope I'm autumn. And I was just fingers crossed
the whole time. And as you were doing the whole
process on me, we were discovering slowly but surely that
I am not autumn at all. But that's normally what
I've gravitated towards, and so it was interesting to see
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I'm absolutely not that at all. And now some things
make sense of When I've gone to my closet and
put on an outfit the very next day, and maybe
the day before, who knows what I was wearing, but
it was probably in my color palette, and I felt
more confident and nothing about me had changed in that
twenty four hours. But yet I would look in the
mirror and be like, something is just off and not right.
But oh well, I don't have time to deal with this.
I'm just going to go to work. But the simple
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outfit color could change everything. And we determined that a
cool summer power color, yes is French navy.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Ooh so just.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
A navy blue, so in honor of you, and that
I'm a navy blue thing under my denim, which I
can wear. But something you said to me that I
found very interesting and I think would be beneficial for everybody
to know their power color is you looked at me
and you said, next time you have an important work meeting,
you're doing any type of negotiation, or you need to
have some authority or confidence when you're walking into your room.
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She's like, you walk in wearing French navy.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
That's right, it's your power color.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And now I know. And I went into my closet
and of course, this sweatshirt is the only like maybe
thing that I work on it.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
We'll work on it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'll build my capsule wardrobe, which I thinks a gift
that you probably give a lot of your clients is
they can build a wardrobe that makes it effortless and
there is no stress getting ready because you can actually
minimize and save money. You're not out buying all these
clothes that you end up not liking, and then you
have your capsule wardrobe and so no matter what you
walk in and put on, you're gonna feel good.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Absolutely well, if you've ever noticed, like if you see
somebody online and they're wearing something and you think, oh,
you know, I just saw this on Instagram, reules, I
want to buy that, Like I love this influencer and
what she's wearing. And then you buy it, and for
some reason you do not like how the way you
look and feel in it. You loved it on her right,
maybe because it was true to her natural coloring, maybe
(05:13):
because it honored who she really truly is. And then
I think what had happened with you? You were sort
of living your best autumn life just sort of unknown.
But now when we pull in the colors that are
true to you, like everything just becomes in harmony, and
that's when you can really get that confidence that takes
you from literally like zero to one hundred immediately and
nothing changed but the colors you're surrounding yourself in.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And so another thing that comes into play would be
like mascara, which I never thought of this. I have
always tried to get the blackest.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Of black, oh jet black, let's go, yes.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Whatever it is. I thought that that would help me
feel more awake and that would do me more favors.
And then you said, no, now that you're cool summer,
you need brown lashes, so brown mascara, and I immediately
text it Amy Shoes. My last person, I was like,
do you even make brown last you? Like?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Do people do that?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yes, yes they do.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And sure enough she said, yeah, I have plenty of
people that do it. And I thought, well, shoot, how
did I never know about this? And you kind of
want everybody to be trained in this, ye, because you've
even mentioned to me that my highlight and nails hair,
all of it, or yeah, my highlights were a little
You might be a.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Warm light bit warm, but you're like real close, real close.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But a simple change is like mascara, you can just run.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I'm looking at you right now. Your eyes look. I
mean you probably got up at an ungodly hour as
well this morning, but your eyes look even more open
and alert than the first time I.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Met you, because I've already transitioned ron.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's right. So the transition has begun.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
We moved fast. Well, now I already happen to have
an appointment. But you can go and change your mascuit color,
your eyeliner color. You know you mentioned nail color I
brought you that I'm thinking about putting on, but I
want to know it proves proved. It's called Fierce and
Loving and it's a little olive in June.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Okay, so looking at that, So the colors of summer,
they're soft, they're cool, they're smoky. There's a rose undertone.
Does it fit that? I think so? Absolutely. It has
a nice cool base to it. Absolutely. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So this was just a little check listing for me.
It's like I'm doing my homework. I feel like you'll
train the eye and things will get easier. But you
do give people a color wheel or the season. Yes,
and so I have the wheel, and you know you
can go shopping with it and make sure, it matches.
But for people that maybe don't have the wheel or
(07:34):
they're not going to have an appointment with you, how
would you recommend they go about shopping for their power
color once they figure it out. I mean, I saw
I was doing some research and I saw there's different
apps that people have, and I know that one on
one with you would be the most accurate, perfect scenario.
But for someone that doesn't have access to that, how
do they go about finding their color at top?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay, that's tough. So there's some old folklore out there
that people will say, oh, if you just look at
your veins, and that's actually not completely accurate. The most
accurate way to determine your undertones and your season is
to have an in person appointment. Now, there are people
all over the country that do this. It is very niche.
It is very sort of like secret society, though there's
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not a lot of us. If there's not house of
color near you, I would even just start like kind
of looking at your family and you can run around
the house with like different color swatches. We've seen some
of this online already, where people are sort of trying
to figure out out online. But you know, even ask
your mom and your grandma, Like, Mom, do you guys
know like maybe what my season would be or do
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you know what yours was? Because this was huge back
in the eighties. You had color analysis done. That was
like getting a flu shot. You just did it like
everybody'd and then it sort of like went away. But
it is back with like full energy now and everybody's
all in.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That makes me think of steel magnolias. Yes, Julia Roberts's
character wedding, she's having, well they say pink and pink
at her wedding, but she calls it blush and bashful. Yes,
my colors, my collar pink and pink, and so she
knew her colors, and so for me, I would have
never gravitated towards I'm using the nail polish as an
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example because I don't know that I would have done
this like purply pink situation.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's like a lilac Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But now I'm so excited that I know this will
look good on my skin and I'm going to wear
it with my mushroom colored dress.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Didn't even know that was a thing, but I happen
to have one in my closet and mushroom is one
of my colors.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's outstanding on you.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
And so I will say, once you do start to
figure some stuff out, it does get exciting. And I'm
more I'm excited down the line because I still have
to build my closet, but I am so pumped to
go into my closet stress free and know that I'm
going to feel confident no matter what. And I know
so many of my listeners are looking for that just
extra kick of confidence, and I love that this is
(09:51):
something that is doable, but I imagine takes some patience, but
it could be. Yeah, we've mentioned nail color, mascara, clothing,
or a blush even or the wrong lip color can
change everything.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I always tell people to focus on their cameo first.
So pretty much anything that is, you know, shoulders up.
If your hair is colored correctly, now nature always gets
it right, so you don't have to worry about that.
If you don't use any coloring, you're going to be good.
But really focusing on your makeup and hair, and then
we can build clothing as time allows, but it takes
(10:24):
about three years, so you need to go through each
season twice to start replacing and filling those holes in
your closet, so don't feel like you have to like
have it immediately overnight. But eventually my goal is one
to teach you how to fish, Like I want you
to be able to go out into the wild, even
online and make purchases that are going to be the
best for you. And then also if you could just
(10:45):
walk into your closet blind, like I know you're up
super early that you probably are like fully kind of
blind anyway at that time, so you could walk in
and grab like a shirt and a bottom without even
looking at it, and you know they're going to work
well together. I mean, isn't that like the dream for
all of us? A capsule wardrobe that actually serves you
and it doesn't just have to be black, white and
(11:05):
gray like Pinterest was trying to tell us years ago.
You can have a capsule wardrobe that has color, but
color that serves you.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You were talking about blush me before we started recording,
and that at my age I'm forty two almost forty three,
you were watching me put blush on and I kind
of put it lower onto my cheek, like you know,
you smile and make.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
The little apples of your teeth.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, yeah, and then you're like, oh, tutu at your age,
start to take it a little bit higher, up on
the cheekbone and up towards the eye, like the orbital
bone ish area. So can you explain why that is so?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Pretty much? And respectfully, I am forty three, so you
know we're in the same wheelhouse here. But if you're
over twenty five, you know, we get online and we
watch all these you know, masterminds on TikTok and Instagram,
and they're doing these like wonderful face beats. But I'm
in my forties. If I apply that technique to my skin,
it's going to be a flop. Like it's not going
(11:57):
to be the best. So we all grew up with
our moms say and smile, and we put the blush
on our cheeks. However, I want you to now start
going higher. Like feel if you physically touch your face
and feel where the bones are, it's gonna feel a
little bit uncomfortable, Like I'm not supposed to put blush here,
but I want it's very close to the eye, but
I want you to go up and lift and up
(12:17):
to the temples. It's actually just going to like snatch
and lift your face up. We'll take all the help
we can get, Okay. I mean, listen, I thought that
forty a good prote You were like putting it anyway
a fairly.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I was putting it really low and create sagging.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
My It's like it's like an instant face lift just
by using your blush differently, small technique yep.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
And so I imagine a lot of women get the
stun but do men get it done? Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yes, all the time, absolutely. And men, you know, for them,
it's they need suiting, they need tie colors, they need
to know if they're allowed to get into the just
for men box, like is that going to work for
them or not? And it really does help because men
have historically always sort of like had a capsule wardrobe.
But now they'll know for sure, like if they're going
(13:01):
to go invest in something or I had a client
recently that came in he lost a bunch of weight,
and it's like, if I'm going to go buy new clothes,
let me make sure it's correct, Like, let me make
sure it's actually doing some work for me and not
working against me.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
And the working against is like the color can look
okay on you because there was some when you were
doing the color lifting, like the swatches on my chest.
So if you can imagine it, it's like there's these
handkerchiefs and they're.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Laying on like giant bibs.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Giant bibs. Yeah, and they're all different colors, and she's
just like whipping them off. But you're looking in a mirror,
and it was crazy to see how in one color, okay,
find that there I am. That's me. I feel like
I look okay, and then bam, you would whip it
to the navy or something, and I looked brighter and
more alive. Nothing changed except for the color. And then
you would lift that one off and I would be
(13:49):
back to maybe like all of the color. And I
looked which I've worn. I had some olive eyeliner, I
have not, and I give it away. I don't know
that your spposed to share that stuff. But I looked
like jaundice and.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
So sickliness came over your skin tone.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I know. And it was because I was watching it
happen in real time, Like the contrast was like boom boom.
I don't know that I would have noticed it if
it's like one day where all if and the next
day where maybe right, but seeing in that moment totally.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
And I think as women, you know, because we have makeup,
so that has made a lot of our colors work
or like we've been able to sort of get away
with it or things have been passable, but we also
never had that instant comparison. But I really believe it
takes you from good to great. So these are tools,
not rules, Like if I see you in the streets,
(14:39):
I'm not going to issue a fashion ticket if you're
wearing black, right, And there's situations in life where we're
going to have to wear colors that are out of
our season, whether it's like uniform or funerals or oh also.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That yeah, I'm a rising in a wedding tomorrow and
the dress is black.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, But the good news is your makeup is correct,
lashes are on point, like the skin is going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It's all I don't really care. It's all about the bride,
so I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Also true, right, what a great technique.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But who knows there might be a single guy there
or something also a good point, so why not dating now?
And I think for some people, who knows why you
need the confidence. Maybe you're dating, maybe you're looking for
a job promotion. And on the next thing, I want
to kind of get into that, like why is it
that when we walk into a room in our right
color does the game change for us? Because you were
(15:26):
saying to me, like, more people will talk to you,
more people will take you serious. Wild, So I want
to get into that next. And jewelry color because silver
versus gold that matters too, which blew my mind. And
then also Hollywood and how they play around with this
and basically brainwash us when we're watching movies. Second thing, Okay,
(15:55):
so let's say I have a very important meeting. I
walk in with my French Navy. Now I know that
I feel more confident, but why are other people taking
me more seriously if I'm in my power color?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So the brain loves to see things in harmony. For example,
if you've ever been online and you watch the video,
this is a wild example, but like you're literally watching
someone just stack things up esthetically, maybe they're cleaning the refrigerator.
Everything is in alignment. When you are in a color
that is in alignment with who you are, truly, like
(16:30):
your internal coloring. Everything looks in line to the brain,
and that makes us think that is a good thing,
Like everything looks as it should be, and so therefore
I immediately feel like you are more trustworthy, You're more believable,
versus you coming in in olive green. I would actually
(16:51):
be concerned potentially for your well being because I just
think I was sick, be like, ooh, maybe Amy needs
to go home today and not I don't know, be
here for her meeting. But the brain that can recognize
things that are in alignment, and so when we see that,
it's good.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Well and being a female walking into a room, especially
if we're giving a presentation, however, we are wanting to
be taken more seriously. Like I know that men do
the color matching, but even if they didn't, I feel
like they get a certain amount of attention they totally
for being a man.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
That's just the reality of it. So men when they
walk into a room, whether they have a dirty golf
shirt on or a suit, they just already command a
little bit more power than women. That is just the reality.
And so when we walk into a room where we
want to be on an equal playing field, we have
to bring more authority. So having this superpower in your
(17:44):
pocket is going to give you that ability to walk
in and be at a level playing field.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And so what is it with the jewelry part too,
because I was shocked to know that silver looks good
on some people and gold, like, yes, you were even
showing me, like you held it up and you're like,
this silver on someone that shouldn't be wearing it, it's
going to look really cheap, yes, but you put it
on the right person, which I should be wearing silver,
and I definitely always have worn more gold, right, and
(18:12):
you're like, it will look great on you, which I'm
hoping so because I just ordered nine dollars silver earrings
on Amazon and I would like for them to look
at st r.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We need that nine dollars to stretch too. So now,
so if you are warm based, so think about gold
by nature. If you think about the color, it's warmer,
so it is just going to amplify off of those
warm colors and warmer skin tones, and it's just the
opposite with cool. So cool looks better with icy or silver.
(18:40):
As a summer you also get rose gold a little
extra something special for you as well, So you get gold,
but it's like a pinkish rose gold and it's just
going to harmonize beautifully.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And you can still mix metals, oh whatever your primary
metal is, so like I should stick with silver, but
I can throw in gold absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So for example, my sister she had her colors done.
She's a Gucci girl, so like, you know, it's everything
is with the gold, right, the embellishments, all the Gucci stuff.
She's like, I have so much gold. What do you
mean what do you mean you want me to wear silver?
I said, just drip some in, do a mixed metal.
I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. But also,
jewelry is smaller scale on your body, you know, like
(19:18):
for example, your jacket that is like covering half of
your body, where jewelry isn't gonna do that. So it's
a smaller scale. Tools not rules. But yeah, I prefer
a little silver on you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I love that saying tools.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Tools not rules. I have to remind people because people
get pretty militant about it. I mean they will go
burn down their closets and I'm like, you can't also
be naked, like you have to have clothing, So don't
put this pressure on yourself that you know. We did
a quick walk through your closet and there's a lot
of autumn in there.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But like, yes, of course, that's why I wanted to
be autumn, because I that just what I am.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
You're masking.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You're masking even this room in my house, in these chairs,
like I love these burnt orange chairs.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Love color, and that's okay. And on a like we
can love and appreciate color. You just won't wear a
dress like that. Or you also can, but we know.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Not anymore because I won't feel as confident. I do
think there is something to it, and you mentioned earlier
it is science. There is a reason why. And now
I know my undertone. I now have the tools and
you know, I will follow the rules ish, but I
can see how people might go overboard and be like,
oh now I can't wear anything. Well, it's already helped
me weed out some things I was holding onto that
(20:28):
I was unsure do I want to give this away?
Do I want to sell it? And now I know
with clarity, oh, perfect, this is a no brainer. I'm
going to get rid of this. I'm going to either
put it on poshmark or I'm gonna donate it or
give it to a friend that may want it, And
it's made that process easier for me because I don't
know why. Sometimes we hold onto stuff that we know.
(20:48):
We just go up and clothing investment, Yeah, permission, permission,
yeah it is.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
And then the next time, So for example, the rehearsal dinner, right,
you can now make it choice based on what you
do have on hand to decide do I want to
break the rules or do I really want to show
up as my best? Do I really want to Like,
if we're running to the grocery store and it's not
that serious and do you want to wear all black
and your fuzzy shoes, then do it. But also if
(21:16):
you're going to walk into a contract negotiation, hmmm, we're
not going to be wearing all black, like we're going
to be coming in a power color. Or if we're
going on a first date, you know, we're going on
a powerful zoom call. We're going to be in your
best We're gonna make intentional decisions based on that.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Which I'm so thankful for this information for myself because
I would have normally walked into a business meeting in
all black because I would have thought that demanded attention
and that equaled power.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Here's the thing about black, You could also use it
as a weapon, so be careful because it's not your best.
Black can look too heavy and kind of garish on you.
Meaning hmm, I don't know that I like her as
much as I thought I did. I don't know that
I'm going to give her the bonus. I don't know
if I want to give her that sponsorship deal because
(22:01):
she's rather intimidating in all black, right, But then you
appear in your beautiful summer hues, immediately appear more open,
more trustworthy, relatable. They're like, who do I write the
check to?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's a perfect way for us to go into the
next thing where I want to talk about Anne Hathaway
and Devil Wears Praduct and what Hollywood does with it too,
which I think can transition into real life, and how
we obserately as well. Are Okay, So Devil Wears Prada,
love it? Anne Hathaway, her character, which if someone listening
(22:39):
has not seen that movie, highly recommended. It's so good.
But her character is one way in the beginning and
then makes a transition. And so what did Hollywood do
with her wardrobe and her color specifically.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Okay, So Hollywood uses this against us all the time.
So when there's a character that they don't want you
to like, they will specifically him or her in colors
that are not their best. So when Anne Hathaway is
going through that movie in the beginning, she's very entitled
and she thinks she is above this job, and they're
(23:11):
dressing her kind of drab. They're dressing her in colors
that frankly the cerulean, right, it looks a little cheap
on her. Then the makeover section of the movie appears,
all of a sudden, she's coming out in really strong black,
a super bold red lip. Her confidence is through the roof,
and it's like, all of a sudden, you love this
(23:32):
character and you are rooting for her, and I believe
she's a Winter. I mean, she hasn't been to the
studio yet, but she's probably a Winter. So that just
spoke true to her, like she went from meek and
sort of entitled to this powerhouse woman in her season.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Do you have friends sort of like I would imagine
if you're a doctor, your friend's probably like, hey, I
feel little cough, Like what do you think it is?
Or therapist, Hey, my boyfriend just did this. I guess
you mentioned your sister earlier. But do people sometimes and
they're like, oh, can you just tell me real quick,
like should I be wearing this? Yes? Or no? And
is it that simple for you?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
No, I mean I will tell you this. So, for example,
when I pick up my kids in the car rid
pickup line, my son who is ten and he's a
winter as well, but we'll be driving by the teachers
that are waving, and he has turned to me and
been like, Mom, do you think she's in her season?
Like is she wearing her colors? And I've had to
tell I don't think she is. I don't know. I'm
not sure what is going on there, but no, I
(24:32):
don't think she is. And sometimes it's just you can
see that things are not in harmony, Like I can't
tell what it is at a first glance, but I
can identify that something is off, something is not in
alignment there. But you know my phone is it keeps
busy with help and assistance. It's like a nine to
one to one fashion emergency line.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, I can see how that. You know I'm probably
going to be texting I hope you do the same
And yeah. And I'm thinking back even on Anne Hathaway's
character on this product and how I saw that transition, like, yeah,
something's off. And you mentioned that her clothes looked cheaper,
which her character couldn't afford some of the high fashion
or any of the high fashion where she was working,
(25:12):
so it looked opposite. But it's interesting that if you're
in your right color and it's in alignment, something that
might look cheap on someone else could look very very
expensive on the right skin tone. So it's not how
much you're spending at all. Like there's great finds. I
even found this one blog. I was doing some research
(25:33):
last night and there was one girl. I'm sure if
you looked it up, but she color matches Target finds.
Oh yes, by season. Yeah, so she has it all
mapped out and it's everything that is at Target at
that moment that would be in cool summer and also
the cool autumn, and she had the springing and the winter.
So I was like, oh, this is really resourceful. So
(25:55):
you know, I know we were talking about how can
people figure out their color? I mean, maybe you're not
going to get a spot on as if you had
a one on one session with someone, but you can
get close. And then there's so many amazing people out
there that are putting up resources and tools online that
make shopping easier so that you can be like, Oh,
here's all the cool summer things at Target. And the
(26:17):
summer throws me because I'm thinking, oh, this is what
I'm going to wear in the summer, right right, but
this is my year round color. Yes, cool summer. And
there's awesome people out there that are putting together.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
The resources that a wormhole online. So just be forewarned.
And also I do to give you this cautionary tale.
When you do start dressing, makeup, hair lashes, all done
in your correct season, you will notice a shift like
it's not creepy, but it's just like we look at
a sunset and we can all agree that it's like
(26:50):
a beautiful place to rest your eyes. You in turn
become this beautiful place for people's eyes to rest. So
I can feel it, and you'll notice, like you'll walk
into a store and you can just feel a gaze.
It's real. It's like literally your vibrations go higher. So
just before warned.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Okay, I like high vibes, high vibes. My cat was
just over here a second ago.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
The vibes are high.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
She's like a creamy color, and you told me that
she is my color.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
She looks like a latte, you know what I mean.
And I just feel like that's the summer, Like the
summer has that smoky like. Your browns are not a
tan and akoonyak. They are the kind of brown when
you put cream and coffee and it's just this beautiful
kind of brond. And yeah, I think your cat's a summer.
You can have that one for.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Free, thanks. Yeah, so when I dress her, I'll make.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yes. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I do love her color of she's beautiful. And that
brings me back to hair too. I know you mentioned
I had some warmer but once you figure out your color,
you can even go to your hair person, Like at
my next appointment, since I'm a cool summer, you were
telling me that I should tell my hair person, yeah,
that I need more cooler highlights.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Right, So, we don't want to put a lot of
warmth in your hair because your undertone is cool, so
that can distract and kind of put some sallowness in
your skin. We don't want that, so we want to
keep it very cool and kind of topy, like your
blonde doesn't need to have a lot of brass or
gold in it, more of like an ash cool blonde
with your highlights. And even like you're all over base
(28:28):
color keeping that more of like a neutral brown versus
anything particularly warm or chest out.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I've always asked for chest and I'm like, more honey, please,
more honey. And so now I know and I share that.
I get a lot of people listening. They may not
even be cool summer, so they don't need to know
the details of it. But it's that once you learn this,
you can take this information too. Oh, your stylist or
your hair person.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Like you can help saving money, like for years, I
mean we probably have both spent. I mean, how much
makeup did we just clean out of your drawer?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I mean it probably was a inspired anyway and needed
to go because I don't wear that much stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Also true, but like from makeup to our hair appointments,
all of these things, once you really identify your season,
you're not spending so much money, Like, Okay, it's October,
I have to go warm now, No you don't, Like
you can kind of stay in your lane with your
hair and be authentic to you all year round, but
it really helps. Like I'm very thankful. My daughter is
(29:24):
also a summer she's fourteen. We have this information now,
so she will not have these terrible hair dye mistakes
that I went through. She won't invest in a bunch
of makeup and clothing that isn't really doing anything for her.
She knows she's got the secret sauce.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Now, No, that's awesome. Which next I want to get
into how you even got into this and some more
of the science behind it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
All, okay, fucking.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay. So I never even knew something like this existed.
You mentioned earlier that in the eighties it was so
popular everybody was doing it. How did you find out
about it? How did you, I guess, get trained with
House of Color and decide to do it and knew
that you were good at it because I could imagine
some people try and that they just can't fight get
it down, which would be horrible if you ended up
(30:25):
going to somebody that gave you the wrong color. Yeah,
but thankfully you came highly recommended, so I knew that
I could trust you. But I imagine everybody with House
of Color, if they're trained, Yes, And I guess certified. Right,
so then you've passed some tests.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Oh, yes, I passed all the desks. I'm not colorblind,
so we have that going for me, which is great.
But no, I actually started my whole adult life. I've
worked in the music industry. My husband was in live sound,
I was at a booking agency. We started a family,
and it became very clear that having careers like that
with small children is very difficult, so I took more
(30:59):
of an entrepreneurial route. My best friend in Texas calls
me up one day. She had been in an event
the night before and said, oh my gosh, we have
to go get our colors done. I just was at
this party last night and this girl said that's one
of my wow colors. Had no idea what she was
talking about. She calls me and says, we need to
open a bit, like we need to open the franchise.
Just immediately, I was like, oh, okay, all right. So
(31:21):
at the time, there was no one in the state
of Tennessee. So I drove to Kentucky when rainy Saturday morning,
had my colors done. Totally found it to be life
changing and knew this could be amazing for the Nashville area.
So jumped in feet first, head first, all of it.
Her and I went through the training together. So she
has a franchise in Texas. I'm here in Nashville and
(31:44):
slowly but surely just kind of like building and getting
the word out.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Well, so, how many years have you been doing it?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I actually started the process at the end of twenty
twenty one.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Okay, yes, and you're already making quite the name for yourself.
I thank you hell that you're having an impact because
of you know what I'm hearing from people. I had
another friend that brought her daughter, and yes, it was
an emotional experience because she felt like, finally.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Oh like see confidence.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yes, she's you know, really young twenties, and I feel
like that's such a tricky time for us. So have
you found it to be super rewarding helping people with
their confidence in that way?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I love it so much. It's the full picture. I mean,
it's not just this shallow you know, why do you
need to pay someone to tell you what colors to wear?
It's way bigger than that. It's so much more than that.
Like it is is that ripple effect like the quote
you said earlier, like when you feel good and you
you look good, you feel good. That's going to effect
and ripple out everything that you do every day, every moment,
(32:46):
how you treat your family, your mood. So why not, like,
why not be able to build that confidence. But no,
I if people aren't laughing, crying, or having super core
memories in the session, then I'm not doing my job.
Like all of those things happen. It's wild.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, I thought of my mom multiple times during that
because my mom always wore this coral lipstick and my
mom had black hair. He would not be the same season.
But I remember my mom never leaving the house without
her lip color. Oh yeah, and that was probably that generation.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
They were born with a lipstick in hand.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
When I would leave with no lipstick, she'd be like,
why aren't you gonna put on your lips? Yes, And
I'm like, nope, I don't have many lips. I do
now now as today the House of Clover.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
That's like your signature lip right there.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Ry puns about this, but I was thinking of my
mom and that was a special memory that came up
for me and her coral lipstick. In fact, my sister
and I've been playing phone tag, but I was going
to talk to my sister and be like, do you
remember mom and her coral lipstick. My aunt Lisa, she
passed away last March, and she loved this Laoreal lip color.
She'd been wearing it for decades and Loreal discontinued it,
(33:55):
so she had gone online and purchased whatever she could
find anywhere and like, yeah, whoever the youth one.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
On eBay, we don't care, we're getting it.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
She was buying it. But at her funeral last March,
she was buried with her lipstick. I know that sounds
totally cheesy, but she was of my mom's generation and
they were best friends and she never had.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Her never a moment without it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
In her hospice care, she looked at her daughter and said,
when I leave this earth, please make sure my lips
are on, Like I want to look good when I go.
Her husband had passed away years ago, and she's like,
when I see your dad again, that is have my
lips on. And so yeah, she got buried with a
tube of her favorite lipstick. But I could see how
(34:40):
core memories do come up or special things, and it
can be an emotional experience in thinking of my mom
and what color she would be and looking at that wheel,
what's the science behind what colors go where?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
So this goes back way far back. So we're going
to go over to Europe now, so we're in Germany.
It's the eighteen hundreds and they is an artist by
the name of Johannes Itten. He was a Swedish painter
and during that time this was a kind of like
a modern art school. So he took the color wheel
and then like flipped it on its head, so kind
(35:14):
of like when you pull out your iPhone and you
go to editf photo, there's hugh contrast saturation. So before
it was just the color wheel, but now he went
and took it a step further into you know, for example,
summer being blended contrast softer chromas right, So he put
them into sections and from him is where sort of
(35:37):
the season science comes from. But they found they would
study children, and they would study a lot of other artists,
and what they realized is people are born with an
attraction inherently to their own coloring. But what happens is
as we age, we sort of lose that superpower. Like
you've always been really attracted to autumn colors. Sometimes that
(35:59):
ranged true for people and in fact, you could have
been an autumn, but you may have lost that somewhere
along the way, Like for me when you pulled out
the crans when I was a little girl, I was
reaching for purple, pink and blue, and I'm a winter
and that actually is true to me. But sometimes we
have sort of color bias, like maybe mom was always
pushing like maybe she loved the coral, so you thought
(36:22):
maybe you liked those warm colors. Or Grandma used to say, oh, honey,
you look so good in olive, maybe because she liked it. Right,
So we have some of that color bias. But the
reality is your undertones are your undertones, and they will
never change and they will always be the same. But
the color wheel and the science all goes back to
Johanna sit and yes, well.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
And so since your color is your color and it's
not going to change, what about if I get a
spray tan, because I'm getting one at tonight. Let's go,
So this my mushroom dress and my silver ear. Oh
it's gonna be clover, lipstick are still going to work.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Amazing, It's going to be amazing. I personally think summers,
although you are cool, based look beautiful with a little
sun kiss. Now my tip would be, but we've already
taken care of this, reach out to your suntan artists
and say, hey, come to find out, I do have
cool undertones, so when it comes to the mix, let's
just be aware of that, you know, so that we
(37:15):
don't get you. If people ever ended up with like
those really bad spray tnds in the past, it's probably
because it was too orange for their undertone.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay, Well, and I thought my spray tan person that
was going to think I was crazy for texting or this,
and she goes, oh, no, I have clients that talk
I got you all the time. I'm like, well, who's
holding out on me here? Because I thought I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Secrets revealed today right here live.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
When I go to my hair person, I feel like
she might be like, oh, yeah, I got you. Yeah,
I've had clients recommend this before, so it's really fascinating.
It's so interesting, and I am grateful to have met you.
So I'm glad to have you as a client. Yeah,
I'm your client. I'm so glad to be your client.
Let's do it, yes, and also keep recommending you to
(38:00):
a lot of people, so where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Okay, so House of Color Nashville underscore Hannah on Instagram.
You can also go to House of Color and you
can find a consultant near you by just putting your
zip code in. There's about three hundred of us in
the US, so it's a very sort of niche, very
unique situation. But we would love to have you.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
And Color does it have a U, It does collure?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yes, we are a UK based company, so a lot
of this comes from Europe.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yes. Well, Hannah, thank you so much, appreciate you, and
hopefully this is helping a lot of people at least
take a step in the direction towards more confidence, more power,
more authenticity by stepping into who you truly are and
that you'll be killing it whatever you're doing. You'll walk
in the room, you'll be radiant. You'll be looking your
(38:50):
best and feeling your best.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
The vibes are high.
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