Welcome to the '5th Thing' with Amy & Kat!! Today’s quote is: “I know you have a big mountain to climb right now. And it’s scary and intimidating and seemingly almost impossible. But the beautiful irony of this, is that by the end, this will probably have you feeling more alive than any other mountain before this. You are going to surprise yourself.” This led to a whole conversation around altitude (for dummies) because Amy was recently in Colorado climbing mountains. Amy also read some emails from listeners: a couple of them talking about Amy’s infamous Chicken Salsa/Salsa Chicken recipe (this simple dinner ended up being a ‘God tap’ for one listener in particular!!) & another asking about a locket necklace Amy has been wearing with her Star Necklace (both linked below!) Then Amy & Kat shared their bucket list trips!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Cat, and today's quote is from Elsie Laurie and
I sent you this Cat. I've actually sent it to
a couple of people in the last week or so,
but it says, I know, you have a big mountain
to climb right now, and it's scary and intimidating and
seemingly almost impossible. But the beautiful irony of this is
(00:27):
that by the end, this will probably have you feeling
more alive than any other mountain before this. You are
going to surprise yourself. And I was like, oh, that's fun.
I hope that's fun. I can't wait to be like surprised.
I'm so surprised. This is glorious. But yes, I mean,
mountains are beautiful, but they're definitely different at the top
(00:52):
than in the middle than in the middle and when
you're climbing it. And I can say that literally was
just climbing mountains a couple of weeks ago in Colorado
do and it is intense that altitude. It's no joke,
Like you feel like I are so out of shape,
never experienced because I've never been there, Like you just
can't breathe. Yes, the altitude causes it's just shortness of breath,
(01:16):
like your lungs aren't used to being able to taken.
Do you know what altitude means? No? Do you know
it's the height up that you're going altitude like we
were at seven feet and the altitude. Yes, the altitude
so yes, yes, in a way, I know what it means.
But different different dinner up there, So it's thinner. I
(01:39):
would think it'd be easier to breathe. I don't know.
I know this is why a meteorologist, But I can
find that out for you, or while I'm reading an email,
you could look it up. I look it up, like
why is air thinner? In altitude? Thinner matter? Okay? Here
is an email from Donna. Hey, Amy, first off of
(02:02):
your podcast, Now that you discussed the salsa chicken this morning,
I'm craving it and need your recipe please and thank
you thanks for being real. I've followed you in the
Bobby Bones Show from the early days in Austin and
now I continue to do so your fan Naples, Florida. Donna,
which the chicken salsa recipe? It's taking America by storm?
(02:24):
Can I say something yeah, I saw a girl do
a TikTok on it, and she was acting like it's well,
maybe I don't know where it came from. Okay, so
do we need to have her credit or do we
need to get but she used green sausa. This is
a crock pot dish that probably millions of people around
the world do. The recipe is Donna. You put two
(02:50):
chicken breasts or more, depending on the size of your
family into a crock pot. Then you get a jar
of salsa of your choosing, whatever your faith is, poor
the entire jar into the crock pot, then cook it
on whatever desired temperature for however long however your croc
pot works. Then once it's done, shred the chicken. It
(03:13):
should peel apart like letter. You could get forks and
just it'll peel off. It's actually very satisfying to shred
the chicken that way. And then you add a can
of black beans, and then you you could What we
do in our household is we cook some jasmine rice
or white rice or whatever, and then we serve it
over a bed of rice. You can get some avocados
(03:37):
or guawk or sour cream cheese, have it on the side,
or it's like simple as is. You just get some
cholula I love that, sprinkle that on top, and some potatoes,
not potato chips, no tortilla chips that is, and dip it.
Or you could even make a little taco. We use
(03:58):
it for a baby shower man a taco bar with it,
and I usually air fry onions and peppers to put
in it too. See I mean you can get as
creative or not as crazy, like it can be as
simple or more complicated as you want it to be,
and that's the beauty of it. I got another email
from a girl named Megan that said, thank you for
sharing the salsa chicken slash Chicken salsa recipe because I
(04:20):
think we were debating. I call it and I say
salsa chicken, And now I told you I say salsa
chicken and you said chicken. I don't even know what
I say then now it does? It all sounds the
same to me, like who cares? So I guess we'll
call it like Megan did, and anytime we talk about it,
we'll say salsa chicken slash chicken salsa. And she sent
(04:41):
this whole email about how it might seem like so
small sharing a recipe like that, but it was a
game changer for her the day that she heard us
talking about it, which we've talked about it multiple times,
but she needed to hear it because she was like
thinking about what she's the primary cook and her household,
she said, and that she was sort of out of
ideas and didn't know what to do. And then she
(05:03):
turned on the podcast and she was literally thinking about
what to cook for dinner and then we said it,
and so she called it one of those shows like
an aha moment for her of like, oh uh, chicken salsa, salsa,
chicken for dinner and what are we calling that now?
Like a god tap a little. But then the rest
of her email, she also shared this cat which I
(05:26):
thought you would enjoy, She said. The other day, I
also said no to something that I didn't particularly want
to do, and for the first ship, I did it
for the first time in a very long time, she said.
I didn't even explain myself. Amen. Amen. Good for her.
Good for you, Megan, She said, it was so liberating.
I have struggled finding meaningful connections with girlfriends as well.
(05:47):
So you inspired me to have a girl's night and
opened the door literally and figuratively to manifesting those connections myself.
We had so much fun. Good for her, she's honestly,
I've been thinking about when you were talking. Came out
you doing your neighbor thing, and I said I would
talk to my new neighbors. I still haven't spoken to them.
That's okay, yeah, but I'm moving, so I hope that
(06:08):
there's still craft. Yeah. I mean, you're moving, so it's fine.
But when you move into your new house, you should
get to know your new neighbors. Well, I don't have
any at all, okay, because I'm moving behind my house,
so I'm gonna be in like an alley, and so
technically my neighbors are so my neighbors. But their front
door faces the other way than my front door, so
they're not my neighbors. But I could have said high
to them the other day. Did I tell you about
(06:29):
when all the fire trucks came to my house? I
didn't know. Well, the other day I walked into my house.
I had been gone for an hour. It smelt like
I didn't know if it was like a fire or
like gas. So I called the non emergency line because
I didn't fight a fire and then they sent four
fire trucks, an ambulance, a fire guy in a small car,
(06:52):
and there was about fifteen fire people, firemen and women.
It's walking through my house with like their gas meters,
literally fifteen of them. My house is very small. I
don't think fifteen people fit in my house. And so
then all the neighbors came out, and my neighbors have
like a rooftop like balcony, and they're all looking at
us down from their big tall house to my little
(07:12):
small house. And I could have been like, hey, nice
to meet you. I'm your neighbor, like glad, welcome to
the neighborhood. But I just actually I didn't see that.
He did. The good news is my house is fine.
Actually my air conditioning broke. That was the issue. Yeah, well,
I mean I'm glad. It was okay. I should be
back this person. Fifteen firefighters at your house. Yeah, I
(07:32):
think too too bad. You're taken by big pull big people.
Oh he's there. I was like, you can go if
you want to go, because he was to go to
this party with his like Sam TV show, Like you
can go, I'm going to hang out with these He
was like, I'm not going to leave you like this,
and he was trying to be like a hero. Maybe
(07:53):
maybe he was worried that I was going to fall
in love with the fire. Guys, don't worry, big medium P.
I have another email of this one from Amanda. She said, Hey, Amy,
(08:17):
could you possibly share the link again for the gold
heart necklace locket that you wear. I missed it when
you linked it in your last Instagram story. Is funny thing.
I listened to the most recent podcast and you mentioned
cast roles and then there was an article that popped
up in my feed that said iconic cast roles of
the past. Anyway, I love the podcast, love your tips
(08:39):
and the Bobby Bones Show. Thank you, Amanda. Which, yeah,
isn't that bonkers that your phone is listening like heard
cast roles being mentioned in the podcast. And then she
got a thing for cast roles. The future is wild.
It's here. I'm sure I'm gonna get like medication suggestions
for like altitude sickness. Now, oh, did you figure out why?
(09:00):
Okay share with us? Well, and then I'm gonna I'll
share the link up. Well, let me address this, Amanda.
I'll put the link to the necklace in the show notes,
but it is from Noonday Collection, which is a business
that my friend Jessica Hanager founded, and it's called the
Ardent Necklace. But linking in the show notes will be
an easier way for you to find it. But Noonday
(09:20):
Collection shout out and my friend Amy, who does my lashes,
she just ordered it and loves it, and she pairs
it with our star necklace, which I just thought I
had mine on too, but I can't feel it on
my neck. It's weird. You always have always have my
star necklace on, but I just felt my neck and
it's not there, which makes me think I didn't lose it,
(09:40):
but I'll just go I probably took it off for something.
But I saw Amy and she paired the star necklace,
the spaw one with the three little gold stars that
we have that supports Haiti with the locket and it's
like to really put yeah a real Jessica put a
picture of my mom in it and sent it to
me as a gift and it's really special. And the
(10:02):
Star necklace is also really special. And those are two
really great you know women founded businesses a Squaw and
Noonday and they have give back components and she works.
Jessica works with artisans all over the world. Our Star
necklaces are made locally here in Nashville by women, and
then they give back to Haiti. So there's you know,
(10:23):
a lot happening with both those. So both of those
are options if you're looking for gold necklaces that are
really cute and even paired nicely, or a gift for someone.
And the necklaces are shop squaw dot com e s
p w A. They sell out often, but I'm pretty
sure they're re stocked now. So anyway, tell me about altitude. Okay,
this is what the Internet says. Because atmospheric pressure decreases
(10:48):
with altitude, there are fewer molecules pure cubic meter. Okay,
I guess what that's what it means. It says the
reduced partial pressure of oxygen is why it's hard to
Not enough oxygen is absorbed into blood by your lungs,
resulting in below normal levels of tissue oxygenation. Okay, but
(11:10):
attitude for dummies, But I think what I just heard.
Just figure it out. What happens is there's less air,
so you're you breathe in less oxygen, so there's less
stuff in your body. Maybe that we should not be scientists. Um,
maybe everybody got what the thin is because there's less
(11:34):
of it. There's less of it. Yeah, it says in
order for your lungs to breathe air in without the rest,
the pressure has to be higher outside your body. But
it high altitudes, the outside air pressure is lower than
it is inside your lungs, making it more difficult to
pull in the thinner air for your veins to pump
oxygen through your body. So those are different, I know,
(11:56):
but those are two different answers. This is from science
dot org. Okay, I believe science dot org. I'm going
with that because it makes sense. I can understand it,
and I get altitude sickness when I'm there and I
have to buy these big cans of oxygen that like thick.
It's like a metal can. It's portable, it's they make them.
It's the thick real Ageah, Like you just put it
(12:16):
up to your mouth and you press a button and
and then it's you just inhale. I feel like I'm
doing like a like a whipp it. I've never by
the way, I don't, but that's a real thing that
I know people get addicted to and so I'm being
sensitive to that. But altitude sickness is how do you
get sick? What does it feel like a headache? A headache, yes,
(12:37):
light just yes. The headache for me is my number
one symptom. But I'm sure other people experience more severe
like nausea, vomiting all that. Someone googled why is breathing hard?
In Denver? Denver is called the mile High City for
a reason. The city's elevation is actually about a mile high,
and adjusting to that altitude can cause trouble for visitors
(12:58):
and new residents. It's not uncommon, uncommon for people to
develop altitude sickness. That's the whole thing. Anyway, Well, welcome
to our science show. Okay, this is why we stick
to other topics like this email, castro, salsa, chicken in therapy,
(13:19):
and mountains to climb. That's why we're even talk I
was like, why are we talking about altitude? And it's
because of the dang quote from the beginning that was
supposed to offer encourage and just how sometimes life gives you.
Now I'm paraprising quote, but life gives you mountains that
seem really hard at the time, but wait till you
(13:43):
get to the top, you might surprise yourself or something, right,
I guess so, but it sounds like to feel better
you have to get to the bottom of a real
mountain because you're sick at the top. Oh that's true.
Now you gotta go back down. Okay. I got an
email from Chrissie and calif Born yet. Hey, Amy, I
was listening to Fit to the fifth Thing episode yesterday
(14:03):
where you and Cat were discussing being famous. I knew
and I heard you say that you are not famous.
That was my opportunity to write in I've been listening
to your podcast since April of and somehow came across
the Outweigh series that you did on your four Things podcast,
which was a game changer for me. I'm currently finding
my way again through eating disorder recovery after another relapse
(14:25):
back in two thousand and nineteen. My eating disorder has
been around for three decades now, starting at the age
of twelve. When I found the podcast, I was struggling
once again to find my way out of EAD spiral.
The series introduced me to amazing people like Jennifer Rawlin,
who became a catalyst for me to truly seek recovery. Now,
two years later, I have a treatment team and we
are working on figuring out the best level of care.
(14:49):
It has been a long road and a high mountain
to climb. Just kidding. I was like, how funny. Yeah, Okay,
it's been a long road and some days feel like
it's so hard. But listening to your story and Cat's
story and the many others that you interview gives me
hope that recovery is possible. So thanks for what you do.
You may not feel famous, but you're famous in my eyes.
(15:10):
That heart feels weird for me to say. I'm reading
the email, I still okay by the fact that we're
not famous relatives. I'm not famous you are. No, I'm not.
I don't feel like I am, but I get that
it is relative because I am on we have a platform.
What if that's what we would fight over famous. There's
so many people now that are on Instagram that have
(15:31):
become influencers that are now. Yes, I would say absolutely
they're famous, but I just feel so anyway, back to
the email, Well, I will just say I think I
knew who you were before Instagram wasn't. Yeah you did,
but when you followed me on Instagram, and then you
before we were friends, you unfollowed me how to take
care of use, which speaking of eating disorders, is because
I posted a bag of spinach that I was eating
(15:55):
as a stack on an airplane, and I really did
think that that was you were people by sharing that,
and it wasn't. So I un followed you because I said,
this is not making me feel good. And then here
we are. Here we are like three weeks ago, and
I was like, hmm, interesting, I never knew that you
(16:17):
followed before your friends and then you unfollowed me, but
then you're now you're able to follow me back because
I'm not going to tell you to eat a bag
of raw spinach on an airplane. I would have to
do it well for a check with you, which if
you want to do that, because you like spinache and
you're it's like nutrients and you're not. But I wasn't
doing it for that, like I was restricting. I was like, hmmm,
(16:37):
doesious spinach? It wasn't even like from a fridge. It
was just like in like probably your purson or a backpack.
It was in my four things to I'm sure okay,
So at any given moment inside that four things. So
there has been all kinds of foods, even smuggled across country.
Luck because I used to take like my own men
(16:59):
in'st like fruits and vegetables. What I did, I would
ship you. Can I say that you're going to get arrested.
You can't retro arrest me. You can't know what homely insecure.
You just admitted to like a crime. No, that's fine.
Back to the email she said, And I have a
point in reading this because it's funny when she says,
(17:21):
she's like, thank you for what you do. You may
not feel famous, but your famous in my eyes, so
much so that I scheduled in a special stop to
Pagosa Springs, Colorado on our vacation to go see your
sister's coffee shop. And yes, I watched all the episodes
of Building Roots, which now I would say is my
so is my sister and her family. Are they kind
of famous now because they have a show? And Hi,
some people they are to some people, I don't know,
(17:42):
She said, keep sharing your story. It makes a difference.
Your friend Christie from California, which yes, shout out to
Roothouse Coffee in Pagosta Springs, Colorado, where you're at about
seventy d maybe seven thousand. Maybe if you're high King,
you go up to that high. But I think elevation
is maybe do you really know? Yeah, I go there, Okay, Yeah,
(18:07):
I don't know what our elevation is care currently it's
like normal. I don't know what is Nashville elevation. I
feel like it's nothing. It's like if Colorado is seven thousand,
then maybe we're like four hundred bill la Ovation. Is
this the altitude like five hundred I've close, Okay, Denver
(18:30):
could be. Denver could be is like some low parts
might be five thousand. Oh Asheville you get higher two thousand,
but that's in the mountains. Yeah, okay, all right, thank
you for having I didn't get sick to geography. But
it's two thousand. That's not I'm just saying there's a
different two thousand and eight thousand. You need to go
(18:51):
to Colorado. Yeah, but I, oh I did go. Oh
I went to Montana. Oh yeah, I'm sure you could.
I've never been to Montana. Went to a wedding there,
and it was really hard to get there because there's
the airports two hours away from where we were going
and then there's like no ubers or anything like that.
But I didn't get sick, and we hiked. We did
(19:12):
go on a hike in the mountain, a mountain that
it was in the summer, and we got to the
top of the mountain. It was like it had snowed.
It was like hot, and then it was cold, and
I didn't get sick. So I think that I have
really special lungs. Maybe what is your bucket list place
to go? Because Montana is one of mine and my
other one is Alaska. Oh what were you doing Alaska?
(19:32):
I want to do an Alaska cruise. I never so
are you in Alaska? Even the water? I'm you're on
a boat. You're on a boat like it's a cruise,
but you see land the whole time because you're you're
touring Alaska. I think you get off. It's supposed to
be beautiful and stunning. It's something my mom wanted to
do before she died, but and we honestly were trying
(19:53):
to schedule it for her, but she just got too
weak that we wouldn't have been able. Doctors didn't recommend
her making the trip, and she says she never got
to do it, so I moved it over to my
bucket list. That sounds like a really a fun thing
that I never would imagine to do, but I guess
I don't have I want to go to Italy. That's
that's it. That's a bucket list trip. Yeah, so I
want to do that, and I think that's really This
(20:14):
seems kind of like not as exciting as that. But
I really want to go see Portland in Seattle. Yeah.
I want to go to South Dakota and see the
um Why can't I think Mount Rushmore that's in South Dakota? Yeah?
Did they have anything else there? You just go see
that many This is literally the geography episode could to
(20:37):
all the mountains. We want to go to what Fountain Ranges?
And yeah, it's in South Dakota. Okay, fun fact, we
know what. I'm going to Ashville twice in the fall,
and I'm going to find that highest point in Asheville.
I'm gonna climb to the top and send you a video. Okay,
Asheville is awesome. I want to go. Well, I was
trying to go back in March, but they were booked.
(21:00):
Everything was booked. There was nowhere today. Do you want
to go I'm going for a bachelor trip. If you
want to come, I'm planning it. If I can't, I'm
going to go to a bachelor at trip in Charleston,
which I'm excited about that for my friend Jackie. And
then I don't know. The fall is kind of booking up,
like I don't know that, So you don't want to
go to that, friends, but it's not my bachelor Yeah no,
(21:21):
but you just showed up. That would be weird. That
would be weird. Okay. I hope you'll have a great day.
I hope you have the day that you need to
have whatever that maybe, and you know, face the mountains,
climb the mountain, you'll surprise yourself it sucks, and during
the climb, oxygen just in case. It sucks during the
(21:43):
climb and you might have to use an oxygen can,
but you'll get to the top and you might surprise yourself.
That's a good quote. Okay, we'll end with that, right, Cat,
Where can they find you? You can find me on
Instagram at Cat dot de fata or at therapy podcast
and you can also in too you need Therapy podcast
wherever you find your podcast, and I am at radio
(22:05):
Amy on Instagram and you can find me there. Maybe
I've been on Instagram that much lately, so good luck
with that, right, Okay, bye,
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Cat, and today's quote is from Elsie Laurie and
I sent you this Cat. I've actually sent it to
a couple of people in the last week or so,
but it says, I know, you have a big mountain
to climb right now, and it's scary and intimidating and
seemingly almost impossible. But the beautiful irony of this is
(00:27):
that by the end, this will probably have you feeling
more alive than any other mountain before this. You are
going to surprise yourself. And I was like, oh, that's fun.
I hope that's fun. I can't wait to be like surprised.
I'm so surprised. This is glorious. But yes, I mean,
mountains are beautiful, but they're definitely different at the top
(00:52):
than in the middle than in the middle and when
you're climbing it. And I can say that literally was
just climbing mountains a couple of weeks ago in Colorado
do and it is intense that altitude. It's no joke,
Like you feel like I are so out of shape,
never experienced because I've never been there, Like you just
can't breathe. Yes, the altitude causes it's just shortness of breath,
(01:16):
like your lungs aren't used to being able to taken.
Do you know what altitude means? No? Do you know
it's the height up that you're going altitude like we
were at seven feet and the altitude. Yes, the altitude
so yes, yes, in a way, I know what it means.
But different different dinner up there, So it's thinner. I
(01:39):
would think it'd be easier to breathe. I don't know.
I know this is why a meteorologist, But I can
find that out for you, or while I'm reading an email,
you could look it up. I look it up, like
why is air thinner? In altitude? Thinner matter? Okay? Here
is an email from Donna. Hey, Amy, first off of
(02:02):
your podcast, Now that you discussed the salsa chicken this morning,
I'm craving it and need your recipe please and thank
you thanks for being real. I've followed you in the
Bobby Bones Show from the early days in Austin and
now I continue to do so your fan Naples, Florida. Donna,
which the chicken salsa recipe? It's taking America by storm?
(02:24):
Can I say something yeah, I saw a girl do
a TikTok on it, and she was acting like it's well,
maybe I don't know where it came from. Okay, so
do we need to have her credit or do we
need to get but she used green sausa. This is
a crock pot dish that probably millions of people around
the world do. The recipe is Donna. You put two
(02:50):
chicken breasts or more, depending on the size of your
family into a crock pot. Then you get a jar
of salsa of your choosing, whatever your faith is, poor
the entire jar into the crock pot, then cook it
on whatever desired temperature for however long however your croc
pot works. Then once it's done, shred the chicken. It
(03:13):
should peel apart like letter. You could get forks and
just it'll peel off. It's actually very satisfying to shred
the chicken that way. And then you add a can
of black beans, and then you you could What we
do in our household is we cook some jasmine rice
or white rice or whatever, and then we serve it
over a bed of rice. You can get some avocados
(03:37):
or guawk or sour cream cheese, have it on the side,
or it's like simple as is. You just get some
cholula I love that, sprinkle that on top, and some potatoes,
not potato chips, no tortilla chips that is, and dip it.
Or you could even make a little taco. We use
(03:58):
it for a baby shower man a taco bar with it,
and I usually air fry onions and peppers to put
in it too. See I mean you can get as
creative or not as crazy, like it can be as
simple or more complicated as you want it to be,
and that's the beauty of it. I got another email
from a girl named Megan that said, thank you for
sharing the salsa chicken slash Chicken salsa recipe because I
(04:20):
think we were debating. I call it and I say
salsa chicken, And now I told you I say salsa
chicken and you said chicken. I don't even know what
I say then now it does? It all sounds the
same to me, like who cares? So I guess we'll
call it like Megan did, and anytime we talk about it,
we'll say salsa chicken slash chicken salsa. And she sent
(04:41):
this whole email about how it might seem like so
small sharing a recipe like that, but it was a
game changer for her the day that she heard us
talking about it, which we've talked about it multiple times,
but she needed to hear it because she was like
thinking about what she's the primary cook and her household,
she said, and that she was sort of out of
ideas and didn't know what to do. And then she
(05:03):
turned on the podcast and she was literally thinking about
what to cook for dinner and then we said it,
and so she called it one of those shows like
an aha moment for her of like, oh uh, chicken salsa, salsa,
chicken for dinner and what are we calling that now?
Like a god tap a little. But then the rest
of her email, she also shared this cat which I
(05:26):
thought you would enjoy, She said. The other day, I
also said no to something that I didn't particularly want
to do, and for the first ship, I did it
for the first time in a very long time, she said.
I didn't even explain myself. Amen. Amen. Good for her.
Good for you, Megan, She said, it was so liberating.
I have struggled finding meaningful connections with girlfriends as well.
(05:47):
So you inspired me to have a girl's night and
opened the door literally and figuratively to manifesting those connections myself.
We had so much fun. Good for her, she's honestly,
I've been thinking about when you were talking. Came out
you doing your neighbor thing, and I said I would
talk to my new neighbors. I still haven't spoken to them.
That's okay, yeah, but I'm moving, so I hope that
(06:08):
there's still craft. Yeah. I mean, you're moving, so it's fine.
But when you move into your new house, you should
get to know your new neighbors. Well, I don't have
any at all, okay, because I'm moving behind my house,
so I'm gonna be in like an alley, and so
technically my neighbors are so my neighbors. But their front
door faces the other way than my front door, so
they're not my neighbors. But I could have said high
to them the other day. Did I tell you about
(06:29):
when all the fire trucks came to my house? I
didn't know. Well, the other day I walked into my house.
I had been gone for an hour. It smelt like
I didn't know if it was like a fire or
like gas. So I called the non emergency line because
I didn't fight a fire and then they sent four
fire trucks, an ambulance, a fire guy in a small car,
(06:52):
and there was about fifteen fire people, firemen and women.
It's walking through my house with like their gas meters,
literally fifteen of them. My house is very small. I
don't think fifteen people fit in my house. And so
then all the neighbors came out, and my neighbors have
like a rooftop like balcony, and they're all looking at
us down from their big tall house to my little
(07:12):
small house. And I could have been like, hey, nice
to meet you. I'm your neighbor, like glad, welcome to
the neighborhood. But I just actually I didn't see that.
He did. The good news is my house is fine.
Actually my air conditioning broke. That was the issue. Yeah, well,
I mean I'm glad. It was okay. I should be
back this person. Fifteen firefighters at your house. Yeah, I
(07:32):
think too too bad. You're taken by big pull big people.
Oh he's there. I was like, you can go if
you want to go, because he was to go to
this party with his like Sam TV show, Like you
can go, I'm going to hang out with these He
was like, I'm not going to leave you like this,
and he was trying to be like a hero. Maybe
(07:53):
maybe he was worried that I was going to fall
in love with the fire. Guys, don't worry, big medium P.
I have another email of this one from Amanda. She said, Hey, Amy,
(08:17):
could you possibly share the link again for the gold
heart necklace locket that you wear. I missed it when
you linked it in your last Instagram story. Is funny thing.
I listened to the most recent podcast and you mentioned
cast roles and then there was an article that popped
up in my feed that said iconic cast roles of
the past. Anyway, I love the podcast, love your tips
(08:39):
and the Bobby Bones Show. Thank you, Amanda. Which, yeah,
isn't that bonkers that your phone is listening like heard
cast roles being mentioned in the podcast. And then she
got a thing for cast roles. The future is wild.
It's here. I'm sure I'm gonna get like medication suggestions
for like altitude sickness. Now, oh, did you figure out why?
(09:00):
Okay share with us? Well, and then I'm gonna I'll
share the link up. Well, let me address this, Amanda.
I'll put the link to the necklace in the show notes,
but it is from Noonday Collection, which is a business
that my friend Jessica Hanager founded, and it's called the
Ardent Necklace. But linking in the show notes will be
an easier way for you to find it. But Noonday
(09:20):
Collection shout out and my friend Amy, who does my lashes,
she just ordered it and loves it, and she pairs
it with our star necklace, which I just thought I
had mine on too, but I can't feel it on
my neck. It's weird. You always have always have my
star necklace on, but I just felt my neck and
it's not there, which makes me think I didn't lose it,
(09:40):
but I'll just go I probably took it off for something.
But I saw Amy and she paired the star necklace,
the spaw one with the three little gold stars that
we have that supports Haiti with the locket and it's
like to really put yeah a real Jessica put a
picture of my mom in it and sent it to
me as a gift and it's really special. And the
(10:02):
Star necklace is also really special. And those are two
really great you know women founded businesses a Squaw and
Noonday and they have give back components and she works.
Jessica works with artisans all over the world. Our Star
necklaces are made locally here in Nashville by women, and
then they give back to Haiti. So there's you know,
(10:23):
a lot happening with both those. So both of those
are options if you're looking for gold necklaces that are
really cute and even paired nicely, or a gift for someone.
And the necklaces are shop squaw dot com e s
p w A. They sell out often, but I'm pretty
sure they're re stocked now. So anyway, tell me about altitude. Okay,
this is what the Internet says. Because atmospheric pressure decreases
(10:48):
with altitude, there are fewer molecules pure cubic meter. Okay,
I guess what that's what it means. It says the
reduced partial pressure of oxygen is why it's hard to
Not enough oxygen is absorbed into blood by your lungs,
resulting in below normal levels of tissue oxygenation. Okay, but
(11:10):
attitude for dummies, But I think what I just heard.
Just figure it out. What happens is there's less air,
so you're you breathe in less oxygen, so there's less
stuff in your body. Maybe that we should not be scientists. Um,
maybe everybody got what the thin is because there's less
(11:34):
of it. There's less of it. Yeah, it says in
order for your lungs to breathe air in without the rest,
the pressure has to be higher outside your body. But
it high altitudes, the outside air pressure is lower than
it is inside your lungs, making it more difficult to
pull in the thinner air for your veins to pump
oxygen through your body. So those are different, I know,
(11:56):
but those are two different answers. This is from science
dot org. Okay, I believe science dot org. I'm going
with that because it makes sense. I can understand it,
and I get altitude sickness when I'm there and I
have to buy these big cans of oxygen that like thick.
It's like a metal can. It's portable, it's they make them.
It's the thick real Ageah, Like you just put it
(12:16):
up to your mouth and you press a button and
and then it's you just inhale. I feel like I'm
doing like a like a whipp it. I've never by
the way, I don't, but that's a real thing that
I know people get addicted to and so I'm being
sensitive to that. But altitude sickness is how do you
get sick? What does it feel like a headache? A headache, yes,
(12:37):
light just yes. The headache for me is my number
one symptom. But I'm sure other people experience more severe
like nausea, vomiting all that. Someone googled why is breathing hard?
In Denver? Denver is called the mile High City for
a reason. The city's elevation is actually about a mile high,
and adjusting to that altitude can cause trouble for visitors
(12:58):
and new residents. It's not uncommon, uncommon for people to
develop altitude sickness. That's the whole thing. Anyway, Well, welcome
to our science show. Okay, this is why we stick
to other topics like this email, castro, salsa, chicken in therapy,
(13:19):
and mountains to climb. That's why we're even talk I
was like, why are we talking about altitude? And it's
because of the dang quote from the beginning that was
supposed to offer encourage and just how sometimes life gives you.
Now I'm paraprising quote, but life gives you mountains that
seem really hard at the time, but wait till you
(13:43):
get to the top, you might surprise yourself or something, right,
I guess so, but it sounds like to feel better
you have to get to the bottom of a real
mountain because you're sick at the top. Oh that's true.
Now you gotta go back down. Okay. I got an
email from Chrissie and calif Born yet. Hey, Amy, I
was listening to Fit to the fifth Thing episode yesterday
(14:03):
where you and Cat were discussing being famous. I knew
and I heard you say that you are not famous.
That was my opportunity to write in I've been listening
to your podcast since April of and somehow came across
the Outweigh series that you did on your four Things podcast,
which was a game changer for me. I'm currently finding
my way again through eating disorder recovery after another relapse
(14:25):
back in two thousand and nineteen. My eating disorder has
been around for three decades now, starting at the age
of twelve. When I found the podcast, I was struggling
once again to find my way out of EAD spiral.
The series introduced me to amazing people like Jennifer Rawlin,
who became a catalyst for me to truly seek recovery. Now,
two years later, I have a treatment team and we
are working on figuring out the best level of care.
(14:49):
It has been a long road and a high mountain
to climb. Just kidding. I was like, how funny. Yeah, Okay,
it's been a long road and some days feel like
it's so hard. But listening to your story and Cat's
story and the many others that you interview gives me
hope that recovery is possible. So thanks for what you do.
You may not feel famous, but you're famous in my eyes.
(15:10):
That heart feels weird for me to say. I'm reading
the email, I still okay by the fact that we're
not famous relatives. I'm not famous you are. No, I'm not.
I don't feel like I am, but I get that
it is relative because I am on we have a platform.
What if that's what we would fight over famous. There's
so many people now that are on Instagram that have
(15:31):
become influencers that are now. Yes, I would say absolutely
they're famous, but I just feel so anyway, back to
the email, Well, I will just say I think I
knew who you were before Instagram wasn't. Yeah you did,
but when you followed me on Instagram, and then you
before we were friends, you unfollowed me how to take
care of use, which speaking of eating disorders, is because
I posted a bag of spinach that I was eating
(15:55):
as a stack on an airplane, and I really did
think that that was you were people by sharing that,
and it wasn't. So I un followed you because I said,
this is not making me feel good. And then here
we are. Here we are like three weeks ago, and
I was like, hmm, interesting, I never knew that you
(16:17):
followed before your friends and then you unfollowed me, but
then you're now you're able to follow me back because
I'm not going to tell you to eat a bag
of raw spinach on an airplane. I would have to
do it well for a check with you, which if
you want to do that, because you like spinache and
you're it's like nutrients and you're not. But I wasn't
doing it for that, like I was restricting. I was like, hmmm,
(16:37):
doesious spinach? It wasn't even like from a fridge. It
was just like in like probably your purson or a backpack.
It was in my four things to I'm sure okay,
So at any given moment inside that four things. So
there has been all kinds of foods, even smuggled across country.
Luck because I used to take like my own men
(16:59):
in'st like fruits and vegetables. What I did, I would
ship you. Can I say that you're going to get arrested.
You can't retro arrest me. You can't know what homely insecure.
You just admitted to like a crime. No, that's fine.
Back to the email she said, And I have a
point in reading this because it's funny when she says,
(17:21):
she's like, thank you for what you do. You may
not feel famous, but your famous in my eyes, so
much so that I scheduled in a special stop to
Pagosa Springs, Colorado on our vacation to go see your
sister's coffee shop. And yes, I watched all the episodes
of Building Roots, which now I would say is my
so is my sister and her family. Are they kind
of famous now because they have a show? And Hi,
some people they are to some people, I don't know,
(17:42):
She said, keep sharing your story. It makes a difference.
Your friend Christie from California, which yes, shout out to
Roothouse Coffee in Pagosta Springs, Colorado, where you're at about
seventy d maybe seven thousand. Maybe if you're high King,
you go up to that high. But I think elevation
is maybe do you really know? Yeah, I go there, Okay, Yeah,
(18:07):
I don't know what our elevation is care currently it's
like normal. I don't know what is Nashville elevation. I
feel like it's nothing. It's like if Colorado is seven thousand,
then maybe we're like four hundred bill la Ovation. Is
this the altitude like five hundred I've close, Okay, Denver
(18:30):
could be. Denver could be is like some low parts
might be five thousand. Oh Asheville you get higher two thousand,
but that's in the mountains. Yeah, okay, all right, thank
you for having I didn't get sick to geography. But
it's two thousand. That's not I'm just saying there's a
different two thousand and eight thousand. You need to go
(18:51):
to Colorado. Yeah, but I, oh I did go. Oh
I went to Montana. Oh yeah, I'm sure you could.
I've never been to Montana. Went to a wedding there,
and it was really hard to get there because there's
the airports two hours away from where we were going
and then there's like no ubers or anything like that.
But I didn't get sick, and we hiked. We did
(19:12):
go on a hike in the mountain, a mountain that
it was in the summer, and we got to the
top of the mountain. It was like it had snowed.
It was like hot, and then it was cold, and
I didn't get sick. So I think that I have
really special lungs. Maybe what is your bucket list place
to go? Because Montana is one of mine and my
other one is Alaska. Oh what were you doing Alaska?
(19:32):
I want to do an Alaska cruise. I never so
are you in Alaska? Even the water? I'm you're on
a boat. You're on a boat like it's a cruise,
but you see land the whole time because you're you're
touring Alaska. I think you get off. It's supposed to
be beautiful and stunning. It's something my mom wanted to
do before she died, but and we honestly were trying
(19:53):
to schedule it for her, but she just got too
weak that we wouldn't have been able. Doctors didn't recommend
her making the trip, and she says she never got
to do it, so I moved it over to my
bucket list. That sounds like a really a fun thing
that I never would imagine to do, but I guess
I don't have I want to go to Italy. That's
that's it. That's a bucket list trip. Yeah, so I
want to do that, and I think that's really This
(20:14):
seems kind of like not as exciting as that. But
I really want to go see Portland in Seattle. Yeah.
I want to go to South Dakota and see the
um Why can't I think Mount Rushmore that's in South Dakota? Yeah?
Did they have anything else there? You just go see
that many This is literally the geography episode could to
(20:37):
all the mountains. We want to go to what Fountain Ranges?
And yeah, it's in South Dakota. Okay, fun fact, we
know what. I'm going to Ashville twice in the fall,
and I'm going to find that highest point in Asheville.
I'm gonna climb to the top and send you a video. Okay,
Asheville is awesome. I want to go. Well, I was
trying to go back in March, but they were booked.
(21:00):
Everything was booked. There was nowhere today. Do you want
to go I'm going for a bachelor trip. If you
want to come, I'm planning it. If I can't, I'm
going to go to a bachelor at trip in Charleston,
which I'm excited about that for my friend Jackie. And
then I don't know. The fall is kind of booking up,
like I don't know that, So you don't want to
go to that, friends, but it's not my bachelor Yeah no,
(21:21):
but you just showed up. That would be weird. That
would be weird. Okay. I hope you'll have a great day.
I hope you have the day that you need to
have whatever that maybe, and you know, face the mountains,
climb the mountain, you'll surprise yourself it sucks, and during
the climb, oxygen just in case. It sucks during the
(21:43):
climb and you might have to use an oxygen can,
but you'll get to the top and you might surprise yourself.
That's a good quote. Okay, we'll end with that, right, Cat,
Where can they find you? You can find me on
Instagram at Cat dot de fata or at therapy podcast
and you can also in too you need Therapy podcast
wherever you find your podcast, and I am at radio
(22:05):
Amy on Instagram and you can find me there. Maybe
I've been on Instagram that much lately, so good luck
with that, right, Okay, bye,
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