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February 25, 2025 40 mins

A listener sent in a segment idea: "Things that are saving my life right now” (thanks Melissa!!) so Amy and Kat shared some stuff they’re loving at the moment! This is the main focus of the episode, but they do get into other things!

QUOTE:
“There’s a study that shows that having a 12 minute talk with a friend can change your whole way of thinking. This is a reminder that I always have 12 minutes for you.”

Here’s the Biopelle Snail Serum (Tensage 40) that Amy’s used for a couple of years that Kat just recently became obsessed with…use code HAPPY for 20% off! 

And here’s the Radiance Eye Cream (code HAPPY should work for this too!) 

Amy is LOVING this Lift & Snatch Brow Pen (she’s using Ash Brown, but might try out other colors to see if they’ll be a better fit!) 

Email: 4ThingsWithAmyBrown@gmail.com

HOSTS:

Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy

Kat Vanburen // @KatVanburen // @YouNeedTherapyPodcast // YouNeedTherapyPodcast.com

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
God, Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat and I have our quote today.
It comes from Lewis Howe's and this is actually something
you sent to me, and I thought it was really sweet.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh yeah, he's a school of greatness, which.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I'd never heard of him, and he sounds like a
big deal and I really like this. He wrote, there's
a study that shows that having a twelve minute talk
with a friend can change your whole way of thinking.
This is a reminder that I always have twelve minutes
for you. And you sent that to me, and I
didn't know if you were just sending that to me
because you liked the quote because you were telling me
you had twelve minutes for me.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
No, I'm telling you I have twelve minutes for you.
I sent it to my sister too, and she was like, oh,
we need twelve minutes every week.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
And my sister is one of my best friends. But
I will sometimes talk to her multiple days in a row,
or we'll go a month without talking, but we always
pick right back up where we do too, Like there's
no resentment and like where have you been? What are
you doing? And I feel like we could operate that way.
Now that we work together more regularly, we talk every
week no matter what. But we don't talk every day. No.

(01:07):
I mean, I know you probably want.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
To, but there's some days that we do. But then
there's some days where I don't know what's happening in
your life for a couple of weeks, and that's okay.
But and anytime you really needed twelve minutes, we would
make the time.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I like what you did there, Yeah, you switched to
the word and that's an improv thing. Oh really, which
I'm officially signed back up for improv. I tried to
get Kat to sign up with me. If you listen
to last week's four Things, you know that that's something
I was putting off for a while. But I finally
did it, and I was really proud of myself. Challenged listeners, like,
if there's anything you've been putting off, do it, do
it because it was something you want to do. Because

(01:45):
there's things we put off that we want to do,
and there's things we put off that we need to do,
which means we don't want to do it, but we
need to do it. It's two different types of things.
So like, why in the world would we ever put
off something we actually want to do?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, I know you might put that off. Why it's scary.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, And sometimes it's just like taking the time to
sit down and do it even though you know it's
something that you want. And I try to get Cat
to join me because I do want that, and she's like,
are you kidding? I could not do improv. That was
just not Halpen at all. Plus she's too busy with pottery.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Now, okay, well I signed up for my pottery class.
I've been trying to do this for over a year.
I signed up for one and I showed up and
they had canceled it and they didn't let me know.
So then I was like, well, was this not meant
for me? And now I'm back in I signed up.
So you are doing improv and I really do admire
you for doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
The number one rule or the first rule in improv
is and there's no butts. It's and because you're adding
on to whatever the last person has done. You take
what they put out there and you work with it.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Are you doing like the second I can't go back
to one.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I going back to level one because too much time
has passed.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh, they won't let you do two.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Well, they might, but you're not ready. I want to
revisit level. I'm not showing up the level tune with
my improv from a year and a half ago.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
What was the most fun activity or the scariest activity
you guys did.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I would say all of it is a little nerve wracking,
but the fact that everybody in the room has to
get up there and do it, You're like, okay.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
And you're doing stuff by yourself.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I don't think I was ever up there alone. Okay,
you always had a partner or a group.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay. I liked the.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Group activities, like the icebreakers, like the little games you
play that just exercise your brain. Yeah, and that's really
what's happening. It's ways to unlock parts of your brain
that might be a sleep, which is what I'm looking
forward to. So watch how World my Brain's about to
wake up? Which before Kat and I started recording, we
were talking about this other Instagram post you sent it

(03:49):
to me, but that's not how I originally saw it.
I saw it somewhere else, like just randomly, I think
in my suggested and this woman had made this video
where she put a call to action to her followers
of like, send me the things you do to make
life more whimsical, Like how do you add that whimsy
and fun to your life? And some of the examples

(04:09):
that she shared in the video that people had sent
in to her were like every time I'm peeling garlic,
I say may I take your coat? Or drawing little
hearts on your face with your moisturizer before you rub
it in, or pinning Antarctica on your weather app so
you can check in on the penguins every day, or

(04:31):
while you're grocery shopping listening to French music to make
it a little more romantic. This one made me laugh too,
like when you've got drinks and your cup holders in
your car and you're taking a sharp turn, you say,
hold on, ladies, we're going for a ride. Or if
you're doing dishes, you talk to the dishes before you

(04:51):
put them in and you're like, it's bedtime.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
That one reminded me of you. I feel like you
would do that.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh would totally do that. Which did you say? There
was one about doing laundry and trying to talk about
it to your dog.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
There was one that was like I don't know it
for verbatim. But it was like, every time I do
an activity at the house, I include my pets so
they feel included and they feel like they also can
learn new skills. So it's it would be like, Okay,
we're gonna make coffee. Do you remember how to do this?
Or do you need to walk you through the steps again?
I know it's hard to remember them. Also, I'll just
walk you through them one more time. And I just

(05:23):
think that I could see you doing that with Maggie.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, totally the time for laundry, all right, gather around
kids or pets. I guess I do need to go
over it with my kids. The dishes thing. I have
them in charge of unloading and loading the dishwasher. But listen,
I'm just very particular and how it's done. And I
was unloading the other day and I thought, deep breath,

(05:46):
deep breath, because the silverware was just sort of thrown
in there all wonky and there's a system and I
need to just probably relax through that. But maybe I
do need to gather around to kids, do you remember
how to do this? Because I'm going to walk you
through it. And I don't know why I'm so particular
about how the dishwasher is loaded. I think my mom
was real particular about it.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well, it does affect the way the dishes are clean.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I know, but in this case, I just don't. I
don't really know that it was impacting it, but it
just was bothering me that it just wasn't wasn't quite right,
It wasn't efficient in the flow. It just didn't make sense.
And I would like for it to make sense when
I open it.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Up, maybe sometimes for your brain to feel organized. That
the dishwasher needs to be organized.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
See yeah, I mean before, honestly, before I can do
anything most days if I come home and the kitchen
sink is a mess with the kitchen counters as you know,
like I need to clean that thoroughly and then I
can focus on whatever I need to focus on. Because
to me, the clutter, even though I can have piles
of things like my neat piles, but I know it's

(06:47):
in the pile, and I've got my piles and eventually
I'll get them put away. But when there's like clutter
or things, I will take care of that first.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
You liked it it to be organized chaos at least? Yeah,
come on.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Little paper, don't you want to be put away. Oh hey,
little pile, are you ready? You wait, you've been waiting
for me for weeks, haven't you. I'm gonna start talking
to my piles. I mean, let's do it together, teamwork.
Here we go. I'm gonna start talking to my pile.
So that sounds like an improv activity actually, like you
would be assigned something like, hey, you know, right now,

(07:21):
let's pretend you're cleaning your room and your partner here, like,
say you're my partner Cat, and they'd be like, in,
cat's a pile of clothes, talk to it, and then
I would have to like morph into a maybe.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
They have a lot of little weird activities, but it's
always a yes and mentality. You're never like butt because
the minute you butt, you're like disregarding what that other
person has contributed.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, if you said butt to whatever I said, I
would feel like, oh, dang it, did you not like that?
And that would get in my head, you know, versus
working together.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, you don't want to kill the bit, you know,
you got to keep it flowing. So yes and so yes,
and we're going to be more women physical in life.
Find ways and if y'all have ways that you add
the whimsy and the fun to your life, kat and
I want to want to hear them because I really
can't get over. May I take your coat?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's my favorite one. Yeah, may I take your coat?

Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's so good. But you know what I love to
do with garlic is smash it.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Smash it.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, I get a big knife and I put it
on top of it and I go bang.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
So what can you change that too?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm gonna take your coat off.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Or something. Say goodbye to your coat.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah you like that coat too bad?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
That's an ugly coat. Yeah, that's like not nice. Though.
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I got COVID. When I get COVID October, and I
lost some of my smell, I think forever. Well, I
don't have it all the way back. Some of my
taste and smell I think went away, which I have
not had that happen since twenty twenty. Whenever this came about.
I'd never tested positive for COVID either until October, so

(08:59):
I have no idea if I had it or I
was asymptomatic. And I had to test a lot for work,
and I was always negative and good to go. And
when I tested positive in October, remember, and I didn't
even believe that I had it. I thought that my
testosterone cream because I ran out and my body was
having a reaction to no testosterone. I was like, gosh,
I am having chills and I'm sweating and I feel horrible.

(09:22):
And sure enough I found online enough evidence that it
was my testosterone cream. No, it was COVID. So I
lost my taste in my smell. And I used to
not really be able to handle garlic and red onions
because I couldn't. When you say handle smell, I would
always buy pre minced or maybe it's just minced garlic,

(09:44):
like I'd buy it in the jar, already chopped up.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
When you would chop it up, it would happen.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I did not like the smell of my fingers, Oh
and it would. I could smell it for days, and
red onion get out of here.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, lingers though, well not anymore.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean it might be lingering mean, but I don't
smell it, so therefore I can deal with it. So
I'm I'm eating red onions. I'm a candy garlic, I mean,
not like candy. But I'm chopping it up with my
fingers just like it ain't no things slip in your fingers,
And I don't know if now I smell and other
people can smell it, but I'm not smelling it. And

(10:22):
it's weird because there's nothing like fresh garlic. It's way
better than the pre minsed stuff in the jar. So
now I'm smashing their coats off left and right and
just picking them out with my fingers, like it ain't
no thing.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
That's so interesting. You still haven't gotten that back.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I smell it, but it's not appalling. So actually this
worked out for you. Yeah, I was like, this was
be I wanted what most people have, because most people
aren't that disturbed by garlic and onion. Yeah, and I
was hyper sensitive to it. Interesting, maybe it regulated me.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, you're welcome speaking.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Of things on my fingers. Right now, I have a
splinter sticking out of my finger a cat and I've
been working on our new podcast studio, and the minute
I did it, I was holding it up and I
was like, I think I'm gonna get a splinter. And
I didn't realize that during that I must have given
myself a splinter and you didn't feel it, No, But
then when we came upstairs to record because we're not

(11:19):
totally set up down there yet. That's when I realized.
I was like, Oh, what's this hangnail? And then now
I'm looking at it and there's a legit straight up
a splinter in my finger. It's almost like I knew
it was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
You like, what's it called?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well, and I didn't manifest it. It's almost like I
just knew, like these things like I tapped into my
fifth dimension.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh you can tell the future? You're like, that's a
ray Man Like.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, Like I knew that Eagles were going to win
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
You did know that.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I did know that. I predicted it. You also predicted
the score, but you got it wrong. I wasn't far
off though. Wait, really it really.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Wasn't What was your prediction.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I don't remember all the details, but it really was wasn't.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Far and for a minute, So you can predict the future?
Light like casually you're you are just casual about we're
a semi future teller, fortune.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Teller, psychic, psychic.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yep, that's what I was it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I saw it on Instagram, tapping into your fifth dimension.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
So what's going to happen? To me this weekend.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Hold on, let me tell you. You don't have a
lot going on this weekend.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
How did you know that I told you that.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I told you you're okay. I'll also tell you you're probably
going to do some pottery and you're probably going to
do some nails, because those are things that you're really
into right now, which a listener I almost forgot sent
us something that I think is really cool that kind
of talks about what we're into at the moment, which,

(12:49):
Lord knows, you're very much into the pottery and the nails.
But this is from Melissa. I originally started communicating with
her because she emailed us a quote and we did
share it on episode a couple of weeks ago. Her
quote was every time I think I have a new hobby,
it turns out I just like to buy stuff. Remember
that one, which so good. So I replied to her like, Hey,

(13:10):
heads up, we're gonna be sharing your quote on the
fifth thing. And then she replied back later. So I
replied to her like, Hey, heads up, We're gonna be
sharing your quote on the fifth thing, and then she
replied back later. I saw this idea on Instagram from

(13:34):
the handle adulting with Taylor and I think you've shared
a similar idea on the Bobby Bone Show. I think
it would be interesting for listeners if you and Kat
shared things that are saving my life right now, and
she suggested we do it every few weeks, and I'm like,
we should do it every week, things that are saving
my life right now, whether it's one thing or five things.
And then Melissa shared things that are saving her life

(13:57):
right now, and she included her or ring. You know
what that is?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I've been thinking about getting one.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
She says that it reminds her to go to bed
and get quality sleep and walk.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I just don't want to wear it every day, but
you have to.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's the only way it's gonna chuck. She said, meal
planning on Sunday is something that is saving her life
right now. And then Instacart and Amazon. Huh So those
are I mean just simple, but it also is a
little mini gratitude list. It's like things that are saving
your life right now. So do you have anything that's
saving your life right now? Because I became a huge

(14:32):
fan of something this week huge?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Do you want to share that first? Okay?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Fine? It is the Lift and Snatch.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
It's like a face.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
It makes you think of Bend and Snap from Legally Blonde?
Which do you watch White Lotus Now?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I tried, and I couldn't get into it. What I
think I'm the only one that that's happened too, But
I thought it was just like weird and it kind
of dragged on the first season.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Okay, well, I I just finished season two to prepare
for season three. But you can watch them out of order.
They're really not related except Jennifer Coolidge, is that right?
Been and Snap? She was in the first one and
the second one. But you can still watch season two
without seeing season one. You don't have to watch them
in order. I really don't think even though she's a
character in both, I don't really know what happens in

(15:20):
season three at all because I haven't even seen a
preview or anything. But I'm all dialed up and ready
to go, can't wait to binge it, which I know
it's out, but I don't know if Max is doing
a thing where it's all or the episodes are coming
out once a week. But this is ny X is
the brand of makeup and it's called the Lift and

(15:41):
Snatch brow tint Pin because you know, I've stopped getting
botox and my forehead is spreading apart or something. I
think when you mean by that, well, I don't think
I'm pretty together. To me, it's my snatch stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
What's it called again, lift and snatch.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Lift and snatch. It's my lift and snatch brow stuff.
Because what happened. I think when I was getting botox
and it was relaxing wherever she was injecting me in
certain areas, it was lifting certain things, but also it
was bringing where my elevens are the middle of your
forehead and your brows somehow they were closer together, and

(16:29):
now that everything's dissolving, my eyebrows are further apart.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Okay, I see what you mean. I have not noticed
that in you.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Well I have. I got out a measuring tape and
I was like, what did in the world? Well, did
you know they have all these videos where you can
measure like what would be a good starting spot for
your brows based on where your nose is? Yeah, like
where your brows should end, where the arts should be,
and where it starts if you're penciling them in, Like,

(16:57):
this is just good to know.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
So this is different. Then I guess, listen, because you
have the micro blade.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I had microblading, but I had microblating with the boats
with boatox. So now I'm just gonna sketch them on myself,
which is okay for the time being, because I got
to decide, am I gonna go botox free forever? Or
might I get a little bit here and there once
I have my new baseline. I don't know yet, jury's

(17:25):
still out, but we all know how important brows are
because well, if you're my age, you do because we
lived through the early two thousands in the nineties and
we were plucking them all off and we look back
at pictures and it's like, what in the world were
we thinking? And then now we're penciling them in more,
we're microblading them where we've grown them out or whatever,
and it's like, oh, okay, it's giving my face a

(17:47):
little more life. Did you ever have yours extremely thin?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
No? I had some weird eyebrow shapes though that I'm like,
how did I look in the mirror and.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like enjoy that Mine were like a line?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
But I was too lazy to pluck my eyebrows like
that back in the day.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh I plucked mine to like the perfect little line
my college graduation photos. It is a line, but you
also won the.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Little line you also. I imagine you doing that and
being like, oh my gosh, these looks so good. I
love them.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, so I wore a white eyeliner and I was like,
this is amazing.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I look really good. So you just have to put
yourself back in that spot, like, okay, at one point
I really loved this, So that's okay.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh yeah, no, I mean, it is what it is.
I just hope that never if that even comes back
in style, I'm over it. I'm not falling for it.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Pamela Anderson, she's done that.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
She has them now, well that's just because she's not
wearing any makeup.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Oh so she's not feeling them in.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
She's not feeling them in, which is great. She looks beautiful,
which if that's what you want to do, that's fine.
I'm just saying for me, I'm working on my brows,
and there are templates that are measurements you can do
that will help you. And I don't know this stuff naturally,
so I'm learning on YouTube and it's not hard to
figure it out. Like you can either order these measuring things,

(19:04):
or you can just take a pin and hold it
up to your nose like where they say, and it
is fascinating that, like, oh, if you just move this
over a little bit to the left or draw this
in a little bit to the right, it's like, oh,
that does change the shape of my face. So here
I am in the mirror trying to like take a

(19:25):
protractor to my face to figure out my new However,
my forehead is coming together, and I like the Anastasia
Ultra Thin brow pencil or whatever, but I'm like, I
need something that really represents strokes, Like it looks like hairs.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Is that what that is?

Speaker 1 (19:45):
And this lift and snatch looks like a hairstroke. I
mean sometimes it goes on a little wonky and I
have to start over. I'm like, oh, hands a little
shaky on that one. It looks like like a wild hair.
But then when I get it just right, I'm like,
nailed it. But I have to carve out about extra

(20:07):
five minutes on my makeup just for my brows. Which Megan,
which is your brow person too, and my microblader We've
talked about her before. She does microblading brows, but she
also does areola tattooing on your boobs if you've had
reconstructive surgery after breast cancer. She's super talented, and I'm
going to talk to her about it. I'm going to
show her what I'm doing and tell her how I've

(20:28):
stopped botox. But I might get it. So I don't
know what we should really do, because the worst would
be as if I have her microblade it this way
and then I decide to get a little injection and
then my browser like touching, touch, So I just you know,
using my little pin here and drawing on the little strokes.
But if you were to get close up, like from

(20:50):
far away right now, you probably can't tell. But if
we were to get close up or go outside, you'd
probably like, oh, Amy stroked brows. But I don't care.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, that's whatever.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I don't care. But it's working, and I'm still doing
my face fitness and maybe I need to get a
little more aggressive in my face fitness to work those
muscles or I don't know, whatever, have whatever happened to
make them go a little bit closer together. I did
try to enroll in this one girl's class, like a
face fitness class, and it was full, but I got

(21:22):
an email saying that I'm in now if I want
to be in. But you have a friend who actually
she came on outway a long time ago, and she's
doing some events in person.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Right, Oh, yours is online? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:34):
This was online with a person I don't know named,
like from another country. Oh, so is it in Japanese? No? No,
she speaks English, but she's like maybe Russian or something.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay. Yeah. Hannah Ellis who has Hannah Alice Skincare in
East Nashville. She is doing them, and she said she's
gonna do more because HER's sold out, like a face
massage sculpting class and like a face taping to tour.
She has one I think coming up, and then she
said she's gonna do another one in March because so
many people sign up for it.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, well I need to sign up for her one
in March because I ordered face tape, you know I did,
because I've ordered all the tools, but I'm too intimidated
to use it, so I have it right here under
my bed.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Intimidated.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I'm intimidated, Like how do I I don't I start?
Where do I start? What if I tape it wrong?
And then what if what if I tape it in
a way that makes it That's how I felt when
I started pottery. You just have to start to start. Oh,
the start stops most. Huh, it's the start that stops most.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
It's the start that stops most.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Oh get it? Yes?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
So why did that take me so long ago?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Don't know where did you hear that?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I like that. I couldn't compute that the start.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Stops starts started like that. Okay, you just have to start, Yeah, starts.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
You just have to try.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
You just have to try. So lift and snatch n yx.
I ordered two different colors, so I didn't know which
one was going to work for me and ash brown.
If you have a hair color similar to mine, ash
brown seems to be a good one. But they had
lots of colors, so I might see if there's others.
Since I'm loving it so much.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Why do you need other colors?

Speaker 1 (23:16):
If that matches you right now, it appears to be
the best one. But what if there's a better one?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh? Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Gosh, And it looks less obvious in the sun, because
right now, I guarantee if we were to go in
the sun, you'd be like, huh, or maybe not.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I don't notice that kind of stuff though. Oh so
you're safe with me.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Good, thank you? All right, what is saving your life
right now?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
So my things are a little bit different than yours
because I have rotissery chicken written down.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh I love a good rotissery chicken.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Because I've been in a space where I've just like
not had the energy at the end of the day
to cook food.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
You know why, because you're working a full time job
and then making pottery.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Every night and opening a now studio.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
So I think that's that's why.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah. So I've been enjoying just getting ne verro tissry chicken.
So that's been my first one. And then my other
thing that's been saving my life is the pottery stuff
because I bought this cute little kit. The company's Potted.
It's like p ottd or something. I found them on
Instagram and they send you this starting kit with like

(24:28):
a couple of tools, some paint, two pounds of clay
or something like that, all the basics, a sponge. You know,
I wouldn't know to get all of these things. I
would just buy clay and start going. Also, it makes
it cute and I don't know it's been distracting, yes,
but also I think right now, with some of the
things that are overwhelming me in the world, I need
a distraction. So it's been helpful in that way.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I think that it's been therapeutic for you. And
who knows what the future will bring with that.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I might open a whole other busines.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
You're gonna have a gallery.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'm gonna have an art gallery. I'm gonna teach my
own classes. You can get your nails done after you
do the pottery, because the pottery is messing up your nails.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
That's a great business idea for you. Right now you
would be your customer. What else is saving you?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
So this might shock some people, but the biopal snail serum.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Look who it is. I'm now finally getting on board
with the snails serum. How long ago did I gift
that to you?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Over a year?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Maybe two years?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Wait? Was it expired? It was two years ago?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah? Two years?

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
You did? You had that sitting and you never got curious?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Like I looked at it every day. It was in
my bathroom drawer, and I said.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
It intimidating. Like the face tape. It is a little
intimidating because the ampules are a little weird and you
have to learn how to pop them and then put
it on, and you don't want to waste it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I think that could fit a little bit. And also
it weirded me out, you saying I'm putting snail serum
on my face. I just imagine like a snail crawling
over your face, you know, and leaving there like guts.
So I didn't really want to do that. And then
I ran out of my face stuff and I said, well,
I don't know what to do. I don't want to

(26:18):
go to the store. I've been busy making pottery all day.
I opened up my drawer. There it was, and I
just put it on my face. And I'm not even kidding. Listen,
this is coming from I was a skeptic of this stuff,
and I didn't really believe.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, you got it in your drawer for two one.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I thought it was weird too. I was like, it
can't be that magical. I literally used this for maybe
four days, and I went to my friend's house and
she said, what makeup are you wearing? Your skin looks
so good and I wasn't wearing any makeup. Does that
blow your mind.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, I've known about this store days. That's why I
gave you the pack. So that's a it's a treatment,
like a ten day treatment, and they say to do
it quarterly, so it's a growth factor and it's nourishing
your skin and it's yeah, it's snail secretion.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Okay, you don't have to say that.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Like, I'm in it and now you're trying to pull
me out of it. But Biopela is great. You finally
tried the I cream too.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yes, there's two kinds of I cream in there. One
was a stem cell one and one was like Radiance.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I love Radiance. It's like a tinted.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
And normally I don't think I cream does anything. I
think it's just, oh, they're putting the same moisturizer or
I use on my face in a cute, smaller bottle.
So I buy another thing and I feel like it
did something.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I love the radiance, especially during the day because it's
got like the tint and like a little bit of shimmer,
and that area in your eye is more delicate. It
just needs to be nourished and moisturized because it can
get really dry and creepy, especially as we age. I'm
so glad you love it. I'm trying to figure out
what's going on with the code because I know you were.
You loved it so much you were gonna place an

(28:00):
for since stuff and your code working, and I was like,
dang it. So I've emailed them because there's a code
happy that will save you twenty percent. But I think
it's because if they're already having a sale, it doesn't
go on top of it. But I try to look
on Amazon at times two so that I can give
people heads up, like hey, Amazon has it on sale,
just go get it there because then you don't have
to enter a code and you're getting it for the

(28:20):
same price. But I'm emailing with them because ever since
you said that, because in case listeners today wanted to
try the ten pack. So it's the ten Sage forty
and it is pricier. That's not lost on me at all.
But it's like a treatment. It's like if you were
to go somewhere and get a treatment. But you can

(28:41):
do this for ten days, Like there's ten ampules. Actually
you do it for seven days in a row, and
then there's three more ampules left, and they say to
do one ampule a week so that the ten ampules
will last you a month. So you do the first
week is an ampule every day, and then the last

(29:01):
three weeks of the month is one ampul per week,
and then you do that. If you do that quarterly,
it's like your own little at home nourishing treatment for
your skin. And so the tensage forty is what we
love if you've got more mature skin. Tensage fifty by
mature means if you're age fifty or older.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Such a really kind way to say that.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'll link stuff in the show notes and hopefully by
the time this stairs will have the code figured out.
If not, don't buy it yet, wait till we get
the code figured out or Amazon has a sale because
you don't pay full price. And Biopal wants to treat
listeners to whatever they're like. Maybe we could work out
another thing too, where if they get the ten pac
maybe they get the icream for free or something. I

(29:44):
don't know, We'll try to put together like a fun package.
Because I even said to them, I was like, my
skeptic of a co host finally tried it and loves it,
so she went to go buy it. And so we
need to get the code working.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
It was blowing my mind. I really will say that,
and I you know, I think I owe you apology what.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
You don't have to apologize.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, I wasn't so much skeptical of Maybe it was
a little bit of just you in general, but it
was I think if you just didn't lead with secretion,
I would have been more on board.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
If I just said growth factor, because this is what
it is.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, we should just work on the words used in
the marketing of that, and people might.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I drawn, like I see snail sermon, that made me
try it faster. Where's you're turned off by it? I
don't know, because when I read about the snails, they're
like living the good life at a cute little greenhouse
in Brazil and would you fed carrots and lettuce and
they're taken really good care of. Yeah, they live on
a snail farm and they eat all organic. So the

(30:54):
first time I heard about it was from Carrie, my
face person, but she heard about it from a Triple
Board sort of dermatologist, and she's like, any dermatologist's Triple
Board certified. I'm listening to them.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Okay, So let's say you go to a triple Board
certified dermatologist's office, and you're like, hey, I want whatever
you suggest, and they say, okay, we're gonna lay you
down and let snails crawl over your face. Okay, and
we're gonna then rub in the secretions from them. Would
you let them do that? You would do that? Yeah?

(31:26):
Oh my god, they could. Lets the snails slither all
over your face.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I'm gonna have to close my eyes and I don't
want to know about it. I'm just gonna suck it up.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Butter Cup, would you go to one of those spas
and let put your feet in the thing where the
fish you No, because it's not triple board certified.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I don't. I'm not. I don't need you to do that.
My feet are good. Now. If we knew for a
fact and there wasn't a possibility that I'd die because
I feel like people.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Have gotten people have died from that.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yes, oh, fact check me on that, Okay, but I
do think that, Yes, they're or they've lost their foot.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Because of like bacteria, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Like infections and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
That's why you wouldn't do that. That's not because that's
why I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
If like, we're not going to get infected with our
biopal right. So if but if I show up somewhere
and they're saying, look, this is the newest thing, like
we take semen from a like a a bull.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, and we are doing that. I don't care what
it does to your face. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
That's not true.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
That's not true. They were to say, if all, yeah,
if they were to say, look, you're never going to
get a blemish ever again, and this is all natural,
like you're not putting there's some chemicals in your body
like this just good old fashioned bulls semen. You would

(32:56):
be like, okay, say you have roseatiha or your skin's
breaking out if at that time you've got acne, right,
which you did acutate, Yeah, and accutine's pretty harsh. But
let's say that they're like, we figured it out. There's
this special bull only found in the Amazon rainforest. The

(33:17):
balls are there, or maybe like a little cute monkey.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Okay, monkey seed sounds a little different than bulls.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
But whatever you would do it, you'd be like, okay, okay, yes,
over my face, that's probably true, but I probably wouldn't
use it. If it was just like a serum that
makes your face glow. If it would solve the issue
that I had, or a problem or something that I
was insecure about, I think it. I would do it.
Like even though I'm using my dryer balls and I'm

(33:45):
using unscented, so my chest has gotten better, my chest
rash is definitely better, but it flares up every once
in a while, like I just have something going on
with my chest. While the flare ups are fewer and
further between, they're still happening. If I was told your
chest will never have a flare up as long as
you rub this right, then okay, sign me up.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Okay, yes, I agree to that.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I knew it. I knew you would.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
But even if I said I knew you would, I
knew it.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
But it's I think it's different. It's it's different. It's
not just like a serum you put on your face.
It's a solution to a problem. Okay, that is where
I can agree to that. I still would feel weird
about it, though, But I would not let snails crawl
on my face.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yes you would if if it has a solution to
your problem, you would, like I hate snakes. But if
it was a solution to my problem. They're like, you
just need to get bit by this snake once and
then you're never gonna get cancer or something. I'd be like, hey,
buy me, that is different.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I'm saying, like, Okay, maybe I would let the snails
crawl my face if I was my younger self that
was going on acutane, which like, I don't think I
knew the risks that were involved in that, and I
was in to hear about this thing that I couldn't
figure out a solution to. I would let the snails
crawl on my face one hundred percent totally, as long
as there was no you know, repercussions, like I was

(35:08):
gonna lose my face, like I would lose my foot
with the fish. However, if the person said this will
just make your skin glow more, or it will do
some light color correcting, not probably it sign different.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Okay, So maybe cancer was a little extreme, because I
think we'd all do just about anything to live. So
that's probably not the best example. What if it was
you have to get bit by this snake or monkey
or something like, it's gonna hurt, well only for a
little bit, but then it's like you always have a
tan oh, which people that are naturally olive or tan,

(35:48):
they're not going to relate to this.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
You always have the perfect tan, or you can like.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Be in the sun and you won't burn like I burn.
And then that's annoying because then I do have to
worry about skin cancer. But like, what if you had
skin that was like didn't have to worry about that?

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Would you have some questions?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
And then you never have to eat a spray hand
ever again because even if you have a sprayed hand,
then I tricked myself into thinking, oh Dan, and I
don't put on sunscreense spray.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's not I know it's not. Spray hands are inconvenient
to me. I can never find the right time to
do them.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Who knows what chemicals that's putting in our body?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Who knows?

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
But here are my questions with that before I can answer,
how bad does it hurt?

Speaker 1 (36:26):
And what are the no side effects?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Okay side effects? Yeah, so you just have to get
and this has been studied and I'm not nothing bad's
gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I just thought of something so disgusting I can't say it,
like no, nope, nope, nope, nope, Nope, it's very I
don't even know why my mind went there, and I'm
I'm actually disappointed at myself and disgusted with myself, Like
I just had the most.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Like thirteen year old boyfriend.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yah No, I don't even know. No, Like, what's that
show Black Mirror? Thought?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Oh, you know that show? Yeah? I only watched one
episode because it freaked me out.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Was it the one? It was that one, the one
with the pig that well, that's kind of where my
brain went a little bit because that's where I draw
the line.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
That's a thirteen year old boy I wouldn't have that
was a hard that Why did you bring that up?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Because it means my brain thought, like that's where I
would draw the line, like I'm not going to do
anything like that, okay to like have good skin, like
it's no way.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Hopefully hopefully that's illegal.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I know, I know, I don't know why I thought
of that.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
So I asked you a simple question. I just asked you,
how bad would it hurt? And that's what you came back.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
No, I think I went my brain went through a
series of thoughts and then I was like, that would
hurt pretty bad. I'm sick and need to check myself
in somewhere.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I think so bad? So how bad would the bunky fighter?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I don't know, I don't know. Okay, saving your life,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
The last one was audible because because I've been listening
to the second book from Fourth Wing, which you are reading,
and I got to say a lot more romance in
the second book.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Oh see, I haven't even gotten like I'm reading Fourth Wing,
which is the first one, and I haven't even gotten
to any scene appropriate scenes yeah, or romance.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
That was great. You got invested in the book before
that happened.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I'm totally into dragons.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
I know dragons aren't real, but like I want want
little dragons.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah. Oh have you met the dragons? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Okay, yeah, especially like the little one.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Oh yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
I felt for the little like I was like, oh yeah,
and it really made me mad that some of the
other people were make it bully. Yeah yeah, I'm like,
you lose her. So I was like, wow, I'm really
feeling for this fictional thing.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
It feels real. Well, just warning, if you read the
second book.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
What's the second one called Iron Flame? Okay, and then
the third one is Black on X right, on AXT storm.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay, but I don't know if I'm going to read
the third one after this book, because the reason Audible
is saving my life right now is because I would
not continue to read it. So thank God I'm listening
to it because it's easier for me, and I can listen.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
To part in public.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Well, when would I ever be playing an audio book
out loud in public?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well, my friend said that she would be listening to
it in the car and like her husband maybe like
get in or like the kids will get in, and she'd.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Be like, oh my god, I got to turn it off. Literally,
when Patrick got home from work the other day, I
had it playing and I was like, I'm not doing
anything because like I thought I was doing something wrong
for listening to just the book.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
But it was one of those scenes. Yeah, okay, well
I haven't in the first book. I haven't come across
as one of those scenes yet. But yes, shout out Audible.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
We love Audible. Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Well, there you go. Wells of things to think about.
What are you willing to do?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Where do you draw the line?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Where do you draw the line? I hope y'all are
having the day that you need to have and I'll
be on Instagram at Radio Amy Kat is at kat
Van van Buren like the president, eighth president, eighth President
of the United States. I was gonna say, do you
know anything else you could teach us about him? Because
he was sure.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
His nickname was little Van, Little Van, and I don't
think anybody remembers anything about him. And there was something
about him on like an episode of Seinfeld or something.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
They talked to Van Buren.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah. Vam Buren boys, that's all I got.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Now. You know, if you ever get a new relative
and some trivia and the question comes up, what's the
eighth president, you're gonna be like Van Buren.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I can't wait for that to happen. Yeah, it's so awesome.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Okay, we will talk to y'all later.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Bye bye,

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