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January 9, 2024 16 mins

Amy has a big change to announce that is sort of painful to say out loud....at least for her...haha. It's very much out of her comfort zone. Change is good, though, per the quote for this episode: “Change is painful, but not as painful as being stuck somewhere you don’t belong." (a listener, Melissa, emailed us this quote & we love it) 

Amy & Kat answer these prompts...they could be fun for you to answer for yourself with your partner or friends as well:

This Year I really want to...

What I order for the table...

I go crazy for...

Another prompt...list 3 movies...you have to eliminate 1. Below are Amy's 3:

- Gladiator

- The Notebook

- Hitch

Which one would you eliminate?

Amy also has a movie review for a movie that came out 23 years ago. She never watched it because she assumed she wouldn't like it. She assumed wrong!

 

HOSTS:
Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy

Kat Defatta // @Kat.Defatta // @YouNeedTherapyPodcast // YouNeedTherapyPodcast.com

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
And today's quote is actually one that a listener emailed
it to us. Her name's Melissa, and she thought we
might like it. So here it is. Change is painful,
but not as painful as being stuck somewhere you don't belong.
And I have a very big change to announce. That's
been very painful. What I joined Hinge. Oh, I mean

(00:32):
it is entertaining, for sure, but it's very much out
of my comfort zone.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
So that's the painful part.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
But I don't want to be stuck where I don't belong,
which is at my home all alone, for the rest
of my life.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
You were going to say something else, and I was like,
what is this news that you're just about to drop
on me?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, which, if you all have listened to the podcast
for a while, you know that Kat met her fiance
big p on Hinge, and now who knows the same
thing might happen for me. Mostly, I want to just
put my energy out there that I'm ready to date.
I have no idea if I'll even go on a date.
I'm just practicing getting to know people from Afar, like reading.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Their profile, you don't know if you're like, I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Engaged with everybody on there, Like I haven't communicated.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
You'ven messaged anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
No, I've only read their profiles.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
But that's practice, right, Yeah, Yeah, my toe's in and
that's my energy being you know, out there to where
who knows, a friend may call and be like, hey,
I have someone to set you up with, because I
put this energy out there for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, so you're saying you said, I don't know if
i'll even go on a date. You mean I don't
know if I'll go on a date from himt correct,
not in general?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
And I really got on the the idea of just
signing up for Hinge on a whim by myself. I mean,
you were going to come over and maybe help me.
And then I think it was a few nights to go.
It's like ten pm, and I decided to just make
a profile, except for I didn't know what it was doing.
And I just googled Hinge and pulled up the first
link that came like, I didn't go to the app store,
and that's how I ended up on like dating dot

(02:12):
com or something, and I started filling out the profile
and then I sent you a screenshot and you said
dating dot Com and I.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Thought, oh, wop okay.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
So then I went to the app store and made
sure I got Hinge because I knew I specifically wanted
Hinge one because I hear from multiple people that that's
the best one from like you got married off there,
Shannon got married off there. And then my hair person's
like color assistant person, she just got.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Married off of there, ah three weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
And you know, all that came up after I joined,
and I thought, wow. I mean, of course I knew
about you and Shannon, but then I'm like, oh, I
just joined Hinge.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
She goes, I just got married off Hinge three weeks ago.
I'm like, what, this is crazy. You just keep hearing
good things.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And then also I was listening to that podcast of
CEO with Stephen Barlett. Cryocat listens to him all the time.
But she sent me the episode because he interviewed a
dating coach and behavioral scientist. Her name is Logan Uri
uh huh, and she's the director of relationship Science at HINGE.

(03:18):
And then I sent it on to you and I'm like,
you need to interview her on UNED therapy. Because I
feel like she'd be a really good person for you
to talk to. And she put out a book which
y'all could talk about that. She put out a book
called How to Not Die Alone. And I'm like, oh, perfect.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's exactly what I'm.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Trying to not do, which is a very data driven book.
It's basically from what I could tell online, like a
step by step guide to dating. And she gives hands
on exercises. And when she was on with Steven, they
were talking about attachment styles and she walked through past
relationships she had and how they were just in the

(03:53):
avoidant anxious cycle. And she now could recognize that that
she's in a secure relationship with her husband. But she
thinks back on like a guy she was, you know,
spent a lot of time agonizing over and she could
see now like, oh, we were clearly in this horrible pattern,
like if this is not my person, right, and that's okay? Yeah,

(04:16):
Like this is not my person and that's okay. So
I was very intrigued by her interview on his podcast,
and so then I thought, okay, I'm all in on Hinge.
By all in, I just mean I've started up and
I'm reading people's you're.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Just looking at people, right.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
But uh, I liked the episode that you sent me
with her because what she was doing and what I
haven't read her book, but what it sounds like she
does is different from a lot of dating coaches do.
A lot of dating coaches give you this like general information,
this general advice of what to do to be like
a desirable person or to get the guy or the
girl or whatever. And what she was talking about is

(04:53):
how do you recognize your dysfunctional pattern and then what
you can do to get out of your dysfunctional pattern,
not like what you can do to get this guy
or to be It was all about healing your own
like wounds and stuff like that, which I really appreciate that.
And I think that comes from the fact that she
is actually a trained I don't know if she's a psychologist,

(05:17):
but there's something there that gives her some credibility with
her background.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
She didn't just like come up with this, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
It says behavioral scientists.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I mean, she gave a lot of really great examples
of studies and history and behavioral research things whatever you
call them in the episode. So she sounded very trustworthy
to me. Yeah, I liked her.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
So if I too on there that when she went
to work for Hinge, I think one of the desirable
things for her being an employee there was that their
main goal is to get people to delete the app
because other apps they may want to hook you and
they want you to stay on there. They don't care
if you ever find love, but they know their best

(05:59):
advertising is if you find someone and you delete the app.
She said something along the lines of, you know you're
a Hinge wedding in a sense or a Hinge successful
relationship is the best advertisement for us, because now I'm
going to your Hinge wedding and I'm going to be like.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Be on Hinge, which one of the things that is
on there. Like, again, some of you are not dating,
so this might not be interesting to you at all,
But I do think that some of the information in
there may of you room to think about or may
prompt you to think about your relationship you're currently in,
if it's a boyfriend or a husband or wife, girlfriend,

(06:41):
vice versa.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Whatever. How are y'all operating?

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Like, oh, you want that in the podcast not on
a Hinge. I'm like, you are you asking these people
to go on Hinge.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
No, I'm just thinking this conversation you might everything. This
doesn't really apply to me, but I think even when
you're in a relationship, some of the things they were
saying were really really fascinating. And some of the the
prompts on the app. I'm not saying go join the
app to get the prompts if you're in a relationship,
because that could cause trouble. But it's kind of fun
to have this, almost like those conversation starters that we

(07:11):
talk about. The games or the cards that are everywhere
now you can order, but it's just making sure that
you're talking about fun things and getting to know each
other in a fun way. And so I didn't really
fill out much, but I did do three prompts that
they had, and I did this year I really want to.
So this is something you'd even ask your partner now
or if you get on Hinge, you can fill this

(07:33):
out this year, I really want to. And then you
fill it in what I order for the table, like
if you're out to eat with friends, bring this out
for everybody. And then I go crazy for blank And
so my profile says this year I really want to
do less what I order for the table. Ok so

(07:54):
I go crazy for cats. Those are my answers and
that's all I put about myself. In addition to the
pictures they make you put up, they make you put
up six photos.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I love how I wanted to put one.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, I know, but that's look at how limited like
your answers are so short. You're like, I only want
to put one picture, but they made me put six.
You're trying to give the least amount of information people.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I want to look at you, but you don't get
to know anything about me.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I didn't even want to put amy.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I just wanted to put a.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Okay, we have some work to do.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I think, well, you.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Know, I get it. No, I get it.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Good, ease my way in. Yeah, it's weird. What would
you put for those? Right now? Like if you and
Big P for.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Those three questions?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Okay, I'm going to give you my answers for those,
and then I'm going to try to remember the questions
that actually had on my profile.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, or how you and Big P And I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I do remember what our first conversation was.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
So for you this year, I really want to.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I want to get really good at making homemade pasta.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh, I can get on board.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I got a pasta attachment thing to my mixer, so
I'm starting tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, I'll come over for that. What I order for
the table This.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Is hard because it's like it has to be appetizer.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
No, it could be drinks. Drink yeah, and I was
like tequila and no time for this. I think I
would order bread, bread and butter.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Bread.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I go crazy for game nights. Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, Okay, I feel like I got to know you.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I did.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Okay, my questions whenever I was on there, I used
to have one that said what are you looking for?

Speaker 4 (09:44):
And at first I said someone to split a pizza with?

Speaker 3 (09:47):
But I had to change it because I had to
go on a lot of pizza dates because that was
everybody's like, oh, let's go to here. I know a
great pizza spot, and so all my first dates were
like getting pizza, and then I was like, I want
to do something else. So so then when I met Patrick,
the question I think still was what am I looking for?
But I said someone to help me do my taxes?

(10:10):
And then another one of the questions was all I
ask is that you?

Speaker 4 (10:16):
And I said are not a serial killer.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
And that's how we started talking, because he messaged me
and he said, how many murders constitutes you as a
or considers you a serial killer?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
And that's what our conversation started as.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
But the funny thing is is his family, his dad,
his mom, his stepmom, his sister, and his brother in
law are all CPAs and his dad did do my
taxes and is going and they probably do for the
rest of my life.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
And so I found something to help me do my taxes.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
So how many?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I love that, by the way, But how many murders
makes you a serious?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I said too, and he said, okay, I'm good, okay too. Yeah, right,
two is chre than one. Cereal is more than what?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't know how many minutes to make it?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I mean I feel like two could be like, well, whoops,
I did that again, you know, but then cereal is
which not to make light of that in any way,
shape or form, but cereal to me would mean like
you're on a I just want I just.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Sort of to make sure it wasn't more than one.
I guess. Really it was a joke, but it's because
you know, sometimes to your humor.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, So That's what I always tell people now, is
your pictures and your prompts. Like I wanted somebody to
start a conversation about something about what I'm doing or
these prompts versus what I look like. And that's what
I really liked about Patrick is that like he started
the conversation as a little funny. It wasn't like you
look hot, you know. And I'm like, okay, yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Some of the notes that I've gotten, I'm thinking, no, no, who.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Taught you to speak like that?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Who said this was a good way to send someone
a note? And Hinge has roses. I guess you can
send roses. You have to have roses too. I can
pass them out to the guys.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
I assume you have a past.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I have a past anyhow at all.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
One guy did like one of my picks, and I
went to his profile and one of his things was,
bet you can't hold a conversation, And in my head
I replied, okay, bet.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I kept really.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Wait, did I still have the voice memos on there? Yes?
Oh it's so weird.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
I have listened to a few, and I'm like, okay,
that's interesting. The guy that's challenged whether or not you
can have a car to hold a conversation or anybody,
because it's on his profile for whomever is looking at it.
He's twenty nine years old, twenty nine, And I'm thinking,
did the.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Guys even look at the age?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Because I'm looking at age on all of them, and
I don't know if they realized I was forty two
or if he did, because I'm like twenty nine. Would
a twenty nine year old man like a forty two
year old?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Well, mom, maybe?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
But also you have to isn't there a part on
there that says what am I looking for?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I put, uh, well, like I did a scale and
I put thirty five to fifty.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
No, I mean, like, what are you looking for a relationship? A?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Oh, yes, you're fun?

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Like if he's just like looking for fun, he's like,
I don't want to date you, but I would like
to go on a date and like hang out with you.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Oh you know what I mean? Or some people are
looking for friends.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I haven't seen anybody looking for friends, but I've seen
a lot of short term and I'm oh.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Okay, right, okay, that's when you know. Those are the
people that are probably like you look hot, you.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Know, the short anyway, So we'll kind of wrap up
with another prompt that might be fun for you to
do with your friends, your partner, or add to your
dating profile, because this is one of the things I
thought about putting in. Because you can list three things
and then you say you have to eliminate one.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
This is what I was thinking about putting up.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
I was in the name three movies, and you have
to eliminate one Gladiator the notebook.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Hitch, that's so easy.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
What do you think I would say?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I think you're gonna say Gladiator.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, I've never been seen like boom, we wouldn't be back.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
You might say that, And that's why I thought Gladiator
might be a conversation starter. Or why even have that
on there, because don't sleep on Gladiator. I always avoided
this movie. I'm really not sure why. I just thought
I wouldn't like it. But twenty three years late to
the party, because that's how blugged me with goodbelteen came out.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I give it five stars out of five. Really, it
is so good.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I watched it over Christmas break and I was totally
into it, like it's fascinating and fun. Fact I saw
that Gladiator Too, is supposed to come out in November
of this year. I have no idea if that's going
to be any good. I guess, yeah, is that with
Mel Gibson?

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Am I making that up?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Russell Crowe? Mel Gibson is Brave Heart? You may have
my live.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
I've never seen that either, Tick Freedom.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I know I haven't either, because but because lunch Fox
quotes it on the show all the time, it's like
his favorite quote. I have not seen Braveheart either, And
it's another one where I'm like, I'm not into it,
but I bet if we watched it, we would really
like it.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
That's a really good prompt then, because you're like, I
bet people will say this, but like, do guys like
Gladiator because it isn't enough fighting movie?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I feel like they would probably leave the Gladiator, but
they might assume that's what I would eliminate.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
What would you eliminate?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Well, gosh, now I don't know, because I love them all.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Well, you have to it.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I guess maybe Hitch so yeah good.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I also watched that over the break for like, yeah,
you know, who knows how many times I've seen that,
but I hadn't seen it in a while, and It.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Was really good. Shout out Ryan Gostling. Is he on?

Speaker 4 (15:36):
I know he's listening. He did great.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
All right, Cat, Where can people find you?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
On Instagram?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
At Cat dot Defada and at You Need Therapy podcast.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
And I am at Radio Amy on Instagram and I
am a on Hinge Just kidding, Amy, And I don't
think you can search for people, right?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
No, okay cool? If you can find me a onhitch
a dot.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Okay, by happy Day you need to have

Speaker 4 (16:09):
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