Today's quote:
“When you are not used to being confident, confidence will feel like arrogance. When you are used to being passive, assertiveness will feel like aggression. When you are not used to getting your needs met, prioritizing yourself will feel selfish. With that being said, your comfort zone is not always a good benchmark.” — Words from a psychotherapist (Shared on IG By: Mariana Self Love Coach)
Amy shares an email from Martha asking about the hair mask Ashley Wahler recommended when she was on the podcast: "I was driving during this episode and couldn’t take notes! What was the hair oil and hair mask she mentioned? Thank you!"
Here you go Martha: Ashley recommended the Kerastase Elixir Hair Oil and you can find it HERE. Amy also shares with Kat why Ashley is not a fan of dry shampoo. If you missed the episode with Ashely it's definitely worth listening to. Click HERE to listen!
Kat talks about practicing patience with her Anthropologie orders (she's obsessed with that store) and how she's able to save so much money with her "method" + her clothing subscription...which leads to Amy talk about updating her closet to her 'summer colors' and the patience required for that (the 'summer colors' is from another episode worth listening to about a color analysis Amy had done of her underlying skin tone. Click HERE to listen! Speaking of podcasts to listen to...Amy's been obsessed with the 'Something Was Wrong' podcast - she's already listened to 3 seasons and this lines up with an email we got from Tammy: "Amy, I was with someone who lied to me for 12 years. After he passed away I found terrible videos of his betrayal." Ugh, that's terrible. We feel for Tammy on this one.
Other things discussed:
- Parachute (a movie that's coming out this weekend about eating disorders)
- A Good Year (movie from 2006 starring Russell Crow that Amy just watched and loved)
- One Day (a show on Netflix...warning: you will cry!)
- Voicemail from Heather recommending we look into playing padel (apparently, it's the fastest growing sport in the world!)
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat, and this is the bonus
episode to the Four Things podcast. I'm sort of adding
that because obviously this is four Things podcast and on Thursday,
there's four Things, and that episode was first, like when
the podcast first started years ago, that's.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All we had.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And then I added the Fifth Thing, which is a
bonus episode. But we decided to put on Tuesdays, which
comes to a four Thursday. That is confusing, I know,
so that I was just clarifying case somehow you're here
and you're finding it and you're like, wait, is the
Fifth Thing different than four Things? No, it's just that
after four comes five. And this is the bonus episode.
(00:43):
And Kat is my co host for this and we
always have a quote, and today's is from Instagram an
account Marina self Love Coach. She posted this and I
loved it. When you are not used to being confident,
confidence will feel like arrogance. When you are used to
being passive, assertiveness will feel like aggression. When you are
(01:05):
not used to getting your needs met, prioritizing yourself will
feel selfish. With that being said, your comfort zone is
not always a good benchmark. Because you may not be familiar. Yeah,
which I like that too, because there's so many times
where one of those things, I mean two that stand
out for me are the confidence part, like not wanting
(01:26):
to come off as like full of myself, and then
being a little bit passive, like coming along a little
too strong or being aggressive, and then yeah, the feeling selfish. Eh,
I don't mind meeting my needs.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That one does with me.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I was going to say that one I think is
maybe for me the easier one to identify with because
it is actually saying, oh, I'm going to do this
around myself and not somebody else.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I feel that one the strongest you do.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, okay, maybe I've been practicing that so much the
last you know a little bit. But I think that
one I'm like, okay, I think I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Good on that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That starts to feel like normal. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I have to put myself first in certain areas or
then it is a big well the word that's coming
in to my mind I can't say right now, but
show you know. I'd rather keep things keep things good
around here. I've got an email from a listener named Martha.
She said, Hey, I was driving during this episode and
she's referring to the Ashley Waller episode that I did,
(02:26):
and she said, and I couldn't take notes, but what
was the hair oil and hair mask that she mentioned?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And I will say that when I interviewed Ashley Waller, Kat,
do you know who that is?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I didn't until I saw that podcast. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So she is married to Jason Waller, who's on the hills. Well,
I guess Laguna Beach and then the Hills which came first?
Laguna Beach, Laguna Beach, right, like, he dated Lauren Conrad
and then they moved to Nashville. She's a hairstylist here,
but they met when they lived in California and he's
in recovery, So she was sharing her side of that.
(03:00):
I mean, really why she came on was to share
her experience being married to an addict and what that
looks like and how the family needs support too, and
a lot of times the attic is one that gets
all the support. So I was really grateful for her
sharing her experience and her story. But being that she's
a hairstylist, she also talked about hair tips and the
number one product that she recommended was the Caratas I
(03:24):
think I'm saying that correctly. The Elixir hair oil, and
I'll link it in the show notes because she was
very specific about which one k E r ta se
and it penetrates into the cuticle to make it softer
and shinier. You can use it as a hair mask
as well. Actually, there are a lot of ways to
(03:44):
use it. You can read about it again, it'll be
linked in the show notes you can make sure you're
going to the right one. But also Ashley told us
on that episode that she's not a fan of dry shampoo,
which I was shocked to hear. Why, Well, she just
thinks that your body is producing or your scalp, I mean,
your body is producing well no matter what. But in
your hair, you're producing that oil and it's there for
(04:06):
a reason. And she wants you to be brushing your
hair every day and brushing those oils through and that
think of it this way, like if you have makeup
on your face. I'm pretty sure this is sort of
how she put it, and you don't wash your face
at all, and you just keep adding makeup to it
all the time, then it's gonna mess up the poor
situation happening. And like your scalp your follicle. There's things
(04:27):
like all of that has a process, and when you're
just layering the dry shampoo on it all the time,
you're messing up the natural order of things that are
supposed to happen. And she's just not really a fan.
And I will say, don't feel bad if you use
dry shampoo today as you're listening to this, because so
did I. I haven't washed my hair in over a week,
but today's the first day I use the dry shampoo,
(04:49):
and it's just to get me through today, and then
I'm gonna wash it tonight, so I will say I've
used it less. Once I'm out of my latest bottle,
I'm gonna try to embrace my hair oils or whatever,
or even wash my hair more.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But okay, I was gonna say, so is the solution
to wash your hair more?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, And she's not anti that, and I thought, well,
I thought we were that weren't supposed to do that.
I know I can't keep up, but you can listen
to the episode and hear what she had to say
about it. And obviously she's like, I know this is
not going to be a popular opinion, but because but
I've been working in hair for a long time, and
she feels confident in her opinion.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Okay, so she's saying, I'd rather you wash your hair
more often than use dry shampoos.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yes, and brush your hair every day to make sure
you're spreading that oil throughout.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Like it's got it for the I didn't have a
brush for like ten years.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I just got one same it just didn't brush my hair.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
My first brush that I bought without it being like
the like I have a blow dryer round brush. Yeah,
like just a normal brush. I brushed my hair in
the middle of the day. I bought it last summer,
first one and a long time.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I think I got Oh. I got mine two weeks
ago on clearance at Anthropology. That's why I bought it.
It's on sale.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I feel like one of your favorites towards ever is
anthropology one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Most anytime, it's like there's something cute at your house,
like a little knickknack or something antipology. You gotta keep
ornament on your tree. You're like anthropology. Let me guess
where's that necklace from you're wearing.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's not Romanthropolgi.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Actually nothing, I'm wearing right now, it's for anthropology. Well,
it has anthropology vibes for sure.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
But my trick is though with anthropology.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I mean, every once in a while I'll buy something
full price, but I stock their website and I save
things that I like, and then I wait for them
to go on sale, and then I wait for the
sale to go on sale, and I get things that
were like three hundred dollars for like thirty bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So what you're saying is, when it comes to anthropology,
you just have to be patient, patient, yes, and then
eventually you'll get it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I saved my rug in my house, in my cart
for I think a year and a half before I
bought it, and I got it for two thousand dollars
off the original price.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I mean in that, yeah, patience is your That's like
your fruit, that is the strongest.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Actually it's funny that you say that, because today I
just put out an episode on You Need Therapy that
actually was inspired by Lisa Haym and something you put
on Instagram about comfort culture. But I did a whole
episode about my impulsiveness and how I've had to learn
to practice patients and It started because of furnishing my
house and me learning that like, oh my gosh, this
(07:11):
feels so good that I got what I wanted at
a really good price versus just like getting whatever I
can get and figuring this out and getting this room
all figured out right now, because I just want people
to see it and say it's cute and be able
to post a picture. But that didn't actually give me
what I wanted. So I'm working on the patients, okay.
In anthropology is helping me.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You're working on your patient fruit, which I say fruit
because fruit of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness,
self control?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Is it all of them? I don't even know what
you're talking about the fruit of the spirit from the Bible.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We didn't learn that one.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Oh well that's okay.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Do you only get one?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
We should practice all of them.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
But I'm saying it sounds like that's your strength. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I would never have said that. Yeah, but thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I am noticing it in you, like I feel like
that takes incredible patients. I feel as though I've been
patient and I've been practicing self control when it comes
to my summer colors, because you know how, I had
my color tested, my undertone to figure out the season
of colors that looks best on me. And I'm a
cool summer And I got an email from someone asking
(08:25):
me if I'm loving my summer colors, and I really am,
except for I haven't flipped my closet completely. In fact,
Hannah who did the podcast episode with me about it,
she's a color analyst, and she said that a lot
of her clients it takes them about three years to
(08:46):
get their closet exactly how it should be.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Wait, so are you supposed to wear summer cool summer
colors all through the year.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, and so well, the it doesn't equal like summer time,
I mean the summer color or yes, they do have
that vibe, but it doesn't necessarily mean like whatever's in
style for summertime. Like that given year, there's a color
wheel and there's winter, summer, autumn, spring, the four seasons.
(09:14):
But there's set colors that live in those seasons according
to this color analysis, like house of color wheel, and
those are your colors year round. It's not like, oh,
in twenty twenty four, you know, periwinkles, the color of
the summer, So suddenly that's a summer color in your wheel.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It may not be.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You have the same colors all year, all year round.
That seems hard for summer.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well in the winter, yes, I would, yeh yeah, summery things.
But like white is not a color for me, but
kind of an off white ish is, so in winter
I can gravitate more towards the off whites. The gray's
mushroom brown is my color, not like honey brown would
not be my color, or a camel or caramel are
(10:00):
not my colors.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So in the winter, the mushroom you can wear brown,
just a different kind of brown, mushroom. You keep saying mushroom, like.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You really wanted to make sure that I heard that.
You said, mushroom.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Mushrooms one of my power colors.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And so is navy blue, okay, And so I could
wear that in the winter. I see your point, because
it's like, okay, maybe in the winter, I'm not gonna
want to wear lilac and yellow, right, A soft yellow, okay,
cool summer is not a bright yellow.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's a soft yellow, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And so people have never heard any of this. They're
probably like, what in the world are they talking about
right now. Anna was on the podcast maybe a month
or so ago, maybe even it's been about six weeks
(10:49):
at this point. But I went over to her house
and I was a paying customer. I got my colors done,
and I liked it so much that I asked her
if she would come on the podcast. And Carrie, the
Nashville Beauty Girl, my face person, she had gone to her.
That's how I learned about her, because I hadn't seen
carry in a while, and I went and saw her
one day. I'm like, hey, you look different. And my
(11:13):
first thought was, what did you do like your face
or something or what peel or you know, why do
you look so bright and happy? And she was wearing
this blue jumpsuit, like this really powdery blue. I'd never
seen her in this color before, but it just made
her skin, her eyes, her hair, everything popped. And she goes, oh,
(11:35):
you're probably saying that because this jumpsuit I'm wearing. How
did my closet For years, I've never worn it because
I didn't know if I liked it, But it's in
my color wheel. So I threw it on and she's like,
sure enough, I love it. I feel confident in it,
and she does like she just looked radiant in this color,
and that's the point of the color analysis.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
And you look radiant and mushroom brown.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, mushroom blue, beautiful JUMPSU and you're.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Wearing mushroom brown.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, hey, like two weeks later I had maybe she
was on more than six weeks ago. Where is the
time going? I mean it's already April, which is bizarre.
But in February I had this awards thing to go
to and I had this mushroom brown colored dress in
my closet.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I've had it in there for months and months months,
never worn it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Tags are still on it, and I was thinking why
did I even buy this?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Like what is this brown?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Because anytime I would think about wearing it, I was
putting it with gold jewelry and you know, different shoes
like it just and it wasn't working.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What I learned too about my underlying skin tone is
I look good in silver, not gold. I would have
never put silver with this mushroom brown. Also, denim is
a color for me. It's a blue that falls in
that category any kind of dinim. So when I was
getting ready for this awards thing, which is a country thing,
so dinnim and boots goes with that, and I have
(12:59):
these silver cowgirl boots. So I threw on this mushroom dress,
only threw on the silver boots with it because I
was like, well, she said, silver is my color. Then
I decided to throw the denim like fringe jacket over my.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Shoulders and I was like, well, look at here.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I just threw together outfit that I never would have
pieced together. And I only pieced it together because I
looked at my color wheel and I was like, dinim check,
silver check, mushroom brown check. And I felt so confident.
And I had all of those things in my closet.
I didn't even have to go shopping. So circling back
(13:36):
to my closet and me being patient the color wheel
has helped me shop in my own closet. And it's
also helped me weed out things I want to donate
or sell on poshmark or give away or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And I can let go.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Of things with ease because I'm like, Okay, I don't
need to hold onto this anymore. I haven't worn it
in five years, probably because every time I put it on,
I felt blah because it's not my color and now
I'm releasing it.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Is there anything though, that you really really love that
You're just like, well, I'm going to keep it anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, there's a few things, okay, and I have a
special section in my closet for that now. And then
I am being patient in going shopping because my thing
this year is I'm not shopping unless I sell things
on Poschmark. So it's like in out like if a
certain amount of money is sold, then yay, I get
to go shopping. So I'm being very patient with that.
(14:27):
But I do think by the end of the year
or into next year, I'll have more of a closet
that I feel confident no matter what I pull, I'm
going to feel good. And that's what the color analysis
did for me. So yeah, it's an investment when you
pay for it. But it was crazy, like when Hannah
would hold the cloth up to me, I'd be like, oh,
I love this color, and then I would look in
(14:49):
the miror and I was like, it looked fine and
I could see and then she would remove that and
instantly put on like a cloth over me that was
a shade a little bit different, and I would see
my eye and my face, like everything would change, like
just something about it was a different energy, and I
was like, oh, well, this is definitely my color. And
she told me that anytime I have an important business meeting,
(15:11):
I need to wear this navy that's my power.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Do you have a navy suit?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, But I'm gonna get one as soon as I
can sell something to buy one, because I saw one
at Veronica Beard has some really beautiful like suit situations.
But that's some more expensive brand. So maybe I need
to try your method of anthropology where I put stuff
in my cart and I.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Can wait for it to go on sale.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
God, there's so many things I feel like if I
were to get it and I had a work meeting,
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Haven't that many work meetings? Yeah, Like are you gonna
wear that once a year? But it makes me want
to schedule work meetings. Oh Like when I go by
there in Green Hills, across from Whole Foods, there's a
Veronica Beard. When you walk by there, pretty much every
suit situation or vest you know, vests or in my
right now, like where they button in the front. Obviously
(16:02):
all vest button in the front, but you just wear it.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
You're going to button it. You used to wear in
vest in not button it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You don't wear a shirt underneath it or anything. You
just do like the vest.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And they have like matching shorts or skirt or pants.
When I walk by there, I'm like ronic Beard. Everything
on her mannequins is my color palette, and I'm like,
she is my brand. This is my brand, and it's
just a pricier brand. So I don't know if anybody
knows of Rodicga beer knockof, but I'm Lily. I'm at
a point in my life for two Okay, I'm forty three.
I can invest in some good pieces and I feel
(16:30):
like that's a brand that I'll have forever. Yeah, I'm
at a place where I do like to do that.
I know that there's things I've invested in over the
last few years that I'm going to have for a
very long time. And I can even pass on to
Stashira or something. I always wished my mom had done
something like that, but I don't really know that she cared,
nor that she wanted to, but I thought that would
(16:51):
have been cool.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, what could you do other than just sell things
on Poshmark to encourage and give yourself permission to buy
something that you're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
For you and years and years.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, right now, that's just my deal with myself. It
won't always be okay, it's just sort of my thing
for twenty twenty four. And I think that it's as
I was coming out of last year, I just realized
how much stuff I bought. I'm like, what, why do
I even have this?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It's overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Sometimes, yeah, I need to create a little bit of
just pause so that I can really start to appreciate
some things again. And I will say the color will
has been an investment into appreciating some pieces in my
closet that I previously did not appreciate, like the mushroom dress,
and it's allowed me to play around with a few things.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But I think that sometimes that's.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Probably just necessary, and that may be in other things
in life too.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It might not just be spending on clothes.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Maybe it's how you spend money in other categories of
your life. But I think just assessing that and being like,
you know, probably need to press pause on that for
a little bit, and then when I can get back
into it, I'll just have a greater appreciation for it
and spend more wisely.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Well, that's what I ended up getting a subscription for
a clothing rental service because I was getting really overwhelmed
where I would buy all these random things that were
maybe not very expensive, but then I didn't even really
like them that much, and then I just felt wasteful,
and again it's overwhelming to me to buy a bunch
of stuff like that. Then I'm like, why do I
have seventeen thousand sweaters? And I wear three of them?
(18:19):
But I don't want to get rid of any of
them either. So I started renting stuff, and then the
deal I made is based on how often I'm wearing
it when I rent it, because you can buy the
stuff that you rent at like a discount. And sometimes
I get something I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm still
gonna buy this, and then I only wear it twice
in a month, and I'm like, then I'm not going
to buy it. I got what I needed out of it.
(18:39):
Or if there's something that I need that I know
I'm only going to want to wear once or twice,
like maybe a navy suit for the one business meeting,
and I would have a year, then I don't have
to spend two thousand dollars on it. I don't know
if that's how much sure suits are. That could be okay,
go that much, but whatever. But I just get gets
to be part of that and then I get to
send it back and get something else. So it's feeding
(18:59):
that part of me that wants to update and have
different stuff without me having to commit to buying these
expensive pieces.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What is the place you rent through?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I do Newly, and it's owned pretty sure.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It's owned by the company that owns Anthropology and Urban
and all that, so I can I've rented so many
things that are in my cart at Anthropology, and I've
just rented them, and sometimes I rent them more than once,
and then I don't have to buy it.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I mean, I'm paying for it, but it's a lot different.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I feel like with Newly, or even if you did,
like rent the Runway or something. One way to kind
of marry these two things would be if someone were
to get their color palette done or whatever, then you
could probably go in and select color categories yeah, and
only be shown things that are in your color palette,
and then you know you're renting things that you know
you're gonna feel good in it. That's a good idea,
(19:48):
and I know it sounds like, maybe to some people
a little cuckoo, like, what are you telling me? People
have this underlying skin tone, which that's obvious we all have,
but that certain colors only look good with that. Yes,
I'm telling you that because I experienced it for myself
and I thought it was kind of crazy. But there's
definitely something to it, so I recommend you check it out.
(20:10):
Speaking of recommendations, I have a podcast recommendation for you.
Speaking of recommendations, I have a podcast recommendation for you.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's called Something Was Wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I've tried to remember what that was called, and I
couldn't find it.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay, So when my bff from high school was in town, Andrea,
I know she told us about it, but I've already
listened to three seasons since I last saw you with.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Her a week ago.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah. Yeah, there's nineteen seasons.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And it's really good, except for you're just never going
to trust anybody, got it. You're lucky you have already
met Patrick on Hinge and Yeller in a good space,
and he seems normal and good because probably not some
of these people they have met them online and you're like, what,
so Morgan on the Bobby Bone Show, she met this
guy on hinge or whatever, and he's a man in uniform.
(21:11):
That's the story on the Bobby Bone Show. I mean
he is, but she's not saying what he does because
that's his information, you know. But he wears uniform and
he just left for two weeks. And so then my
mind instantly like, I hope for her sake because I
love Morgan. This guy's legit. But once you start listening
to this podcast fair warning, my brain is like, oh,
he's living a double life. He didn't leave for two
(21:32):
weeks for work. He left to go back to his
family up north.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And has she seen him in his uniform?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Good question.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I don't know yet, Like you as a therapist and
all the different things that you encounter, and I want
to respect your hippo situation whatever not whatever. Hippa is
very serious, but I don't know, Like you're privy to
what people are experiencing out in the world. Do you
think that people are lied to more often than we think.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Like that dramatically? Yes, I think it happens a good bit.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I think what happens more often than those exaggerated stories,
and it's like that salacious is that people tell little
white lies.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
That turn into something bigger.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I think it's very plausible that most first dates are
going on somebody might be telling you a lie or
omitting something.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Versus guys.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, I think there was a woman too, she was
a major gas lighter. But they're psychopaths, they're narcissists.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So yeah, that's yes, those people exist in the world,
but I don't think that they are the norm, and
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
That to become the story people's heads.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Most likely it's not that, but it is also you
can be a liar and a person who might not
be a healthy person to be without being a total
psychopath too. So I think it's more likely that we're
experiencing like little lies and somebody's living a double life.
Like somebody might be like acting like they are more
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successful than they really are, or they're not telling you
the real story about how their last relationship ended, or
they're just keeping certain things that they're self conscious about
or worried that somebody would see as a red flag.
They're hiding that more often than that, they like are
actually a serial.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Killer whoa nobody's killed anybody on something beuse Oh no, no, no, okay,
not yet, Okay. In one of the seasons I've listened to,
there are more stories from people just warning you, like, hey,
if you see these red flags, pay attention, because once
they got in, they were into deep and then they
were brainwashed in a sense so where they couldn't see straight. Yeah,
(23:35):
And it's like, if you're on the outside listening looking in,
you're like, what, how in the world are you in
this situation. You're a smart capable person, and that's why
they're sharing their story. They're like, yeah, I'm a smart
capable person and this happened to me and I was
completely duped.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
There also is a Facebook group I don't know if
it's local, Like every city has their own called are
we Dating the same Guy?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah? Have you seen that?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm the one in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I'm not in it, but I have my friends, So
my friends are in it, and we have seen people
that we know on there. And there was a guy
that was messaging one of my friends that was on
there that we then found out was dating multiple other
people and we were connected to them, Like there are
people like that that look great and talk a great talk,
(24:21):
so it happens, I just don't think.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
It's the norm.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well, that leads me to my email from Tammy. Okay,
a subject line double life. Oh Amy, I was with
someone who lied to me for twelve years. After he
passed away, I found terrible videos of his betrayal, which
I can't even imagine. I assumed Tammy maybe heard me
talking about this on the Bottom Bone Show, so she
sent that note to our podcast email and I thought, oh, like,
(24:46):
how terrible to figure that out after they passed. I mean,
and you're with them for that long and you have
no idea?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Okay, but speaking of is that the whole email? Yes? Okay,
short and sweet.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
That reminds me of listen to Britney snow on Call
Her Daddy. And I didn't know this because I didn't
watch this show, but her ex husband cheated on her
on a reality show he was on, which I'm like,
you have to be really bold to do that on
a reality show that you know people are gonna see.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Was he on Selling Sunset?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It was Selling the OC? So I watched Selling Sunset,
but I didn't watch Selling the OC. And then I
went back and I watched like the trailer and saw it.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
That is wild to me. And what she said.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
She is a very well spoken person who appears to
have done a lot of really great work on herself.
But she was talking about how she was shocked, she
had no idea that it happened. But what she had
to look at too is why did she miss all
the signs? She spoke very well on This wasn't my fault.
I didn't do anything to deserve this, and this was horrible.
And it doesn't help me to sit around and talk
(25:48):
about how terrible this person is or that person is,
because what is going to be helpful for me is
to look at, well, why did I think that was
such a great relationship when clearly something had to been off?
What was I missing and what was I choosing to
get wrapped up in?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Or whatever? The way she spoke about it I really respected.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And she was on there talking about her movie right,
which is called Parachute, which comes out this weekend.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I'm pretty sure it's the fifth right Yeah, which I
very much want to see. And speaking of I was
just talking to a friend about any podcast episodes of
people who are in a healthy place in recovery, talking
about specifically eating disorders and other than outweigh what episodes
we had to share with clients and stuff like that,
and I was like, I don't really have any And
(26:33):
then I listened to her talk about it.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I didn't know she had an eating disorder, and I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Maybe she has talked about this, maybe she hasn't, but
the way she speaks and the way she talked about
her experience was one of the I think best examples
of a celebrity talking about recovery because it's hard. It's
hard to share that in a space where she had
no control over the editing and I assume like she
(26:59):
was on somebody else's podcast.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
The way she did it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And then I watched the trailer of Parachute, which is
apparently about her story, and I got chills just watching
the trailer. But I think that that movie, from what
I gathered, is going to be a very relatable, real
less Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Version of what it's like to struggle with something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
We're going to go see it together this weekend, right,
I hope?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So? Okay, yeah, no, I recommend people check that out
as a way to who knows, I don't know if
it's appropriate yet for what age. But I'm thinking as
a parent, maybe you even watching it first and then
if it is something appropriate to watch if you have
a daughter or son that might be able to relate
(27:45):
in a way.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I mean, I'm just throwing that out as like thinking
as a parent, like you're always looking for conversation starters,
and for me with my daughter, sometimes when something comes
up in a TV show or a movie, it gives
us a way to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So without seeing it, I can't say that for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So I will to say if you're an adult listening,
and you know we get emails from you, I know
that you're out there where you're like, oh, my daughter's
struggling with this or my son.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I don't really know what to do.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
But sometimes if you have something to watch with your child,
But again I don't know that Parachute is it, but
I recommend watching it first to see.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, you know, the way she described why she named
it parachute was really interesting, and I think this is
where you can create a lot of conversations probably about
this movie and maybe we'll know more after we see it.
But she said she named it parachute because she said,
we're all looking for something to help us make the
fall feel easier and less painful and less uncomfortable. And
we all have a parachute, and part of recovery is
(28:41):
learning how to probably let go of that parachute and
sit in the discomfort and stop trying to find the
next thing that's going to carry you through, which is
one of the hardest things ever to do. So I'm
very excited and I'm very optimistic that it's going to
be something that we can share with people who need
to feel less alone or just need an easier way
to understand what their friend is going through or what
a family member is going through.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I don't think we have that right now. Yeah, I
have another movie recommendation. We're recommending one of course we
haven't seen yet. We're helpful, but it's going to be good.
But one that I watched this last weekend. And this
is a throwback. I'm a little late to the party
because it's from two thousand and six, but it's a
Russell Crowe movie called A Good Year.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Never heard of that.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, same guy that was in Gladiator, and the same
director of Gladiator actually directed this movie.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's this romantic love story but you'll laugh. He's a
financial guy living in London, like as a trader, and
then his uncle passes away. He's got a vineyard and
a chateau in Provence and he basically goes there. I'm
not giving anything away. This is part of the trailer.
(29:49):
But he goes there because he's inherited it and he
wants to fix it up and sell it. But then
he's flooded with memories of his childhood and then you
know it all feel good.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Feel good, Like it is so good. And I'm like,
whoa talk about eighteen years late, because that's when this
came out. I thought, look at you, Russell Crowe.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
What made you watch that? What made you choose that?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I had heard about it, like, hey, it's good, so
I thought, well, I'm gonna give it a go. Same
thing with Gladiator. I watched that late last year. So
there you go to Russell Crowe movies. Because I never
thought i'd be interested in Gladiator.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Oh so good.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I don't think I would like.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
No, I didn't think so either. Kat. I'm telling you, Okay,
that's your homework.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I'd rather watch the one that's a feel good.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, but why not watch both? They're both good.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Okay, I know Gladiator doesn't seem like it, but I
bet Big P would like to watch that with you. Yeah,
do you have any recommendations besides Parachute, which we don't know?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Again for sure that's gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I checked back next week Well, I this weekend watched
Well I sorted a while ago, but I finished one
day on Netflix, which is based off of Book. I
never read the books and don't plan to. But or Book,
I don't know if it's one or multiple. I will
say slow to start. It took me a while to
get into it, and then once I got into it,
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I was hooked. It is not a feel good in
my opinion because I was hysterically crying at the end
of it, but it made me feel things. I'll just
say that I don't know that I felt good at
the It was a really good story, and I said
after we were done watching it, Patrick watched like the
last three episodes and he was like, I feel like
I would have also been emotional if I watched the
(31:33):
build up, but I just was like hysterically crying. Couldn't breathe,
there's like snot in my nose, and I was like,
I don't know what to do now, Like I was
just sad, and then how do you just like move
on with your life.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I know it was not real, but I just didn't
know what to do.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I was like, should be like, I don't know, I
have a moment, or I don't know how to like
I can't decide if you're recommending it.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
No, it was good. It was really good. I will say.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I will say I finished it at like one am
on Friday, and my sister was definitely asleep because she's
like nine months pregnant now she's happened to baby tomorrow.
But I texted her at one am a picture of
me with like, you know, snot over my face and
my eyes bloodshot, and I was like, why did I
watch this? That is the reaction I had. But it
was a really good story. Watch it when you feel
(32:14):
emotionally stable.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, or if you need to cry, yeah, so maybe
watch it when you're unstable, yeah, okay, it'll help you
get no, because here's my thing on that, sometimes you're
a little unstable when you need to cry because you
gotta let it all out.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, it feels good. What do they call it? Cathartic?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, and then once the tears come out, you can
go back to being a little more stable.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
She need to have that release.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Sure, yeah, Okay, watch it in whatever state you're in.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
OK.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I do have a recommendation for us. We'll close with
a voicemail that I got from Heather. She has a
new sport for us to play. Because I know you
and Big per into pickleball, and then also you, me
and Big p we go off together now it's our thing,
go to the driving range.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I did it once, announce her.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
We're gonna go again soon.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
But she has a sport recommendation for us, and I
thought other people may be able to try it out too.
So we'll end with this voicemail from Heather.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Hi, Amy, my name is Heather and I'm from Anna, Texas,
and I wanted to alert you to something since you
have mentioned you wanted to get back into tennis. But
I really think you should seek out this new sport.
It's new in the US. It's picking up momentum, but
it's like the fastest scrowing sport in the world. And
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it's called paddle or pa d e l is how
it's spelled. It's a combination of really like squash and
tennis and racquetball, and it's got glass walls and it's
tennis scoring and it's on AstroTurf and it's all doubles
and it's such a fun community and especially when people
(33:51):
are learning something new. So I just really wanted to
alert you to this, and I hope you will seek
it out and try it because I think you would
really like it. Thank you for what you do and
on your guests, You've got so much to my life.
I'm just grateful. So I hope you have the day
you need to have.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Okay, bye, all right, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Thank you Heather for that recommendation.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And y'all can call and leave us a voicemail too,
eight seven seven two oh seven two oh seven seven.
You can also email us four Things with Amy Brown
at gmail dot com, at.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Kat where can people find.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
You on Instagram, at at cat dot defauda, and at
You Need Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And check out her podcast.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
It's obviously called you Need Therapy, because that's why that's
the handle. Her You Need Therapy episodes are on Monday,
and her couch Talks are on Wednesday, and I saw
you put up this super cute post about couch talks
that sometimes when you sit down to record it, you're like, what.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Am I even doing? Why?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Blah blah blah, And then, without a doubt, never fails,
you get messages from people that are thankful for the
conversation that you're having or the topics that you're bringing
up and the stories that you're sharing. So kudos to you,
thank you, And if you don't want to find me,
I'm at Radio Amy on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Bye Bye,
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat, and this is the bonus
episode to the Four Things podcast. I'm sort of adding
that because obviously this is four Things podcast and on Thursday,
there's four Things, and that episode was first, like when
the podcast first started years ago, that's.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All we had.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And then I added the Fifth Thing, which is a
bonus episode. But we decided to put on Tuesdays, which
comes to a four Thursday. That is confusing, I know,
so that I was just clarifying case somehow you're here
and you're finding it and you're like, wait, is the
Fifth Thing different than four Things? No, it's just that
after four comes five. And this is the bonus episode.
(00:43):
And Kat is my co host for this and we
always have a quote, and today's is from Instagram an
account Marina self Love Coach. She posted this and I
loved it. When you are not used to being confident,
confidence will feel like arrogance. When you are used to
being passive, assertiveness will feel like aggression. When you are
(01:05):
not used to getting your needs met, prioritizing yourself will
feel selfish. With that being said, your comfort zone is
not always a good benchmark. Because you may not be familiar. Yeah,
which I like that too, because there's so many times
where one of those things, I mean two that stand
out for me are the confidence part, like not wanting
(01:26):
to come off as like full of myself, and then
being a little bit passive, like coming along a little
too strong or being aggressive, and then yeah, the feeling selfish. Eh,
I don't mind meeting my needs.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That one does with me.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I was going to say that one I think is
maybe for me the easier one to identify with because
it is actually saying, oh, I'm going to do this
around myself and not somebody else.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I feel that one the strongest you do.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, okay, maybe I've been practicing that so much the
last you know a little bit. But I think that
one I'm like, okay, I think I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Good on that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That starts to feel like normal. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I have to put myself first in certain areas or
then it is a big well the word that's coming
in to my mind I can't say right now, but
show you know. I'd rather keep things keep things good
around here. I've got an email from a listener named Martha.
She said, Hey, I was driving during this episode and
she's referring to the Ashley Waller episode that I did,
(02:26):
and she said, and I couldn't take notes, but what
was the hair oil and hair mask that she mentioned?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And I will say that when I interviewed Ashley Waller, Kat,
do you know who that is?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I didn't until I saw that podcast. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So she is married to Jason Waller, who's on the hills. Well,
I guess Laguna Beach and then the Hills which came first?
Laguna Beach, Laguna Beach, right, like, he dated Lauren Conrad
and then they moved to Nashville. She's a hairstylist here,
but they met when they lived in California and he's
in recovery, So she was sharing her side of that.
(03:00):
I mean, really why she came on was to share
her experience being married to an addict and what that
looks like and how the family needs support too, and
a lot of times the attic is one that gets
all the support. So I was really grateful for her
sharing her experience and her story. But being that she's
a hairstylist, she also talked about hair tips and the
number one product that she recommended was the Caratas I
(03:24):
think I'm saying that correctly. The Elixir hair oil, and
I'll link it in the show notes because she was
very specific about which one k E r ta se
and it penetrates into the cuticle to make it softer
and shinier. You can use it as a hair mask
as well. Actually, there are a lot of ways to
(03:44):
use it. You can read about it again, it'll be
linked in the show notes you can make sure you're
going to the right one. But also Ashley told us
on that episode that she's not a fan of dry shampoo,
which I was shocked to hear. Why, Well, she just
thinks that your body is producing or your scalp, I mean,
your body is producing well no matter what. But in
your hair, you're producing that oil and it's there for
(04:06):
a reason. And she wants you to be brushing your
hair every day and brushing those oils through and that
think of it this way, like if you have makeup
on your face. I'm pretty sure this is sort of
how she put it, and you don't wash your face
at all, and you just keep adding makeup to it
all the time, then it's gonna mess up the poor
situation happening. And like your scalp your follicle. There's things
(04:27):
like all of that has a process, and when you're
just layering the dry shampoo on it all the time,
you're messing up the natural order of things that are
supposed to happen. And she's just not really a fan.
And I will say, don't feel bad if you use
dry shampoo today as you're listening to this, because so
did I. I haven't washed my hair in over a week,
but today's the first day I use the dry shampoo,
(04:49):
and it's just to get me through today, and then
I'm gonna wash it tonight, so I will say I've
used it less. Once I'm out of my latest bottle,
I'm gonna try to embrace my hair oils or whatever,
or even wash my hair more.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
But okay, I was gonna say, so is the solution
to wash your hair more?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, And she's not anti that, and I thought, well,
I thought we were that weren't supposed to do that.
I know I can't keep up, but you can listen
to the episode and hear what she had to say
about it. And obviously she's like, I know this is
not going to be a popular opinion, but because but
I've been working in hair for a long time, and
she feels confident in her opinion.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Okay, so she's saying, I'd rather you wash your hair
more often than use dry shampoos.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yes, and brush your hair every day to make sure
you're spreading that oil throughout.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Like it's got it for the I didn't have a
brush for like ten years.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I just got one same it just didn't brush my hair.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
My first brush that I bought without it being like
the like I have a blow dryer round brush. Yeah,
like just a normal brush. I brushed my hair in
the middle of the day. I bought it last summer,
first one and a long time.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I think I got Oh. I got mine two weeks
ago on clearance at Anthropology. That's why I bought it.
It's on sale.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I feel like one of your favorites towards ever is
anthropology one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Most anytime, it's like there's something cute at your house,
like a little knickknack or something antipology. You gotta keep
ornament on your tree. You're like anthropology. Let me guess
where's that necklace from you're wearing.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's not Romanthropolgi.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Actually nothing, I'm wearing right now, it's for anthropology. Well,
it has anthropology vibes for sure.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
But my trick is though with anthropology.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I mean, every once in a while I'll buy something
full price, but I stock their website and I save
things that I like, and then I wait for them
to go on sale, and then I wait for the
sale to go on sale, and I get things that
were like three hundred dollars for like thirty bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So what you're saying is, when it comes to anthropology,
you just have to be patient, patient, yes, and then
eventually you'll get it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I saved my rug in my house, in my cart
for I think a year and a half before I
bought it, and I got it for two thousand dollars
off the original price.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I mean in that, yeah, patience is your That's like
your fruit, that is the strongest.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Actually it's funny that you say that, because today I
just put out an episode on You Need Therapy that
actually was inspired by Lisa Haym and something you put
on Instagram about comfort culture. But I did a whole
episode about my impulsiveness and how I've had to learn
to practice patients and It started because of furnishing my
house and me learning that like, oh my gosh, this
(07:11):
feels so good that I got what I wanted at
a really good price versus just like getting whatever I
can get and figuring this out and getting this room
all figured out right now, because I just want people
to see it and say it's cute and be able
to post a picture. But that didn't actually give me
what I wanted. So I'm working on the patients, okay.
In anthropology is helping me.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You're working on your patient fruit, which I say fruit
because fruit of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness,
self control?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Is it all of them? I don't even know what
you're talking about the fruit of the spirit from the Bible.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We didn't learn that one.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Oh well that's okay.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Do you only get one?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
We should practice all of them.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
But I'm saying it sounds like that's your strength. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I would never have said that. Yeah, but thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I am noticing it in you, like I feel like
that takes incredible patients. I feel as though I've been
patient and I've been practicing self control when it comes
to my summer colors, because you know how, I had
my color tested, my undertone to figure out the season
of colors that looks best on me. And I'm a
cool summer And I got an email from someone asking
(08:25):
me if I'm loving my summer colors, and I really am,
except for I haven't flipped my closet completely. In fact,
Hannah who did the podcast episode with me about it,
she's a color analyst, and she said that a lot
of her clients it takes them about three years to
(08:46):
get their closet exactly how it should be.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Wait, so are you supposed to wear summer cool summer
colors all through the year.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yes, and so well, the it doesn't equal like summer time,
I mean the summer color or yes, they do have
that vibe, but it doesn't necessarily mean like whatever's in
style for summertime. Like that given year, there's a color
wheel and there's winter, summer, autumn, spring, the four seasons.
(09:14):
But there's set colors that live in those seasons according
to this color analysis, like house of color wheel, and
those are your colors year round. It's not like, oh,
in twenty twenty four, you know, periwinkles, the color of
the summer, So suddenly that's a summer color in your wheel.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
It may not be.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You have the same colors all year, all year round.
That seems hard for summer.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well in the winter, yes, I would, yeh yeah, summery things.
But like white is not a color for me, but
kind of an off white ish is, so in winter
I can gravitate more towards the off whites. The gray's
mushroom brown is my color, not like honey brown would
not be my color, or a camel or caramel are
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not my colors.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So in the winter, the mushroom you can wear brown,
just a different kind of brown, mushroom. You keep saying mushroom, like.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
You really wanted to make sure that I heard that.
You said, mushroom.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Mushrooms one of my power colors.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And so is navy blue, okay, And so I could
wear that in the winter. I see your point, because
it's like, okay, maybe in the winter, I'm not gonna
want to wear lilac and yellow, right, A soft yellow, okay,
cool summer is not a bright yellow.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's a soft yellow, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And so people have never heard any of this. They're
probably like, what in the world are they talking about
right now. Anna was on the podcast maybe a month
or so ago, maybe even it's been about six weeks
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at this point. But I went over to her house
and I was a paying customer. I got my colors done,
and I liked it so much that I asked her
if she would come on the podcast. And Carrie, the
Nashville Beauty Girl, my face person, she had gone to her.
That's how I learned about her, because I hadn't seen
carry in a while, and I went and saw her
one day. I'm like, hey, you look different. And my
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first thought was, what did you do like your face
or something or what peel or you know, why do
you look so bright and happy? And she was wearing
this blue jumpsuit, like this really powdery blue. I'd never
seen her in this color before, but it just made
her skin, her eyes, her hair, everything popped. And she goes, oh,
(11:35):
you're probably saying that because this jumpsuit I'm wearing. How
did my closet For years, I've never worn it because
I didn't know if I liked it, But it's in
my color wheel. So I threw it on and she's like,
sure enough, I love it. I feel confident in it,
and she does like she just looked radiant in this color,
and that's the point of the color analysis.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
And you look radiant and mushroom brown.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, mushroom blue, beautiful JUMPSU and you're.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Wearing mushroom brown.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, hey, like two weeks later I had maybe she
was on more than six weeks ago. Where is the
time going? I mean it's already April, which is bizarre.
But in February I had this awards thing to go
to and I had this mushroom brown colored dress in
my closet.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I've had it in there for months and months months,
never worn it.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Tags are still on it, and I was thinking why
did I even buy this?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Like what is this brown?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Because anytime I would think about wearing it, I was
putting it with gold jewelry and you know, different shoes
like it just and it wasn't working.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Well.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What I learned too about my underlying skin tone is
I look good in silver, not gold. I would have
never put silver with this mushroom brown. Also, denim is
a color for me. It's a blue that falls in
that category any kind of dinim. So when I was
getting ready for this awards thing, which is a country thing,
so dinnim and boots goes with that, and I have
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these silver cowgirl boots. So I threw on this mushroom dress,
only threw on the silver boots with it because I
was like, well, she said, silver is my color. Then
I decided to throw the denim like fringe jacket over my.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Shoulders and I was like, well, look at here.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I just threw together outfit that I never would have
pieced together. And I only pieced it together because I
looked at my color wheel and I was like, dinim check,
silver check, mushroom brown check. And I felt so confident.
And I had all of those things in my closet.
I didn't even have to go shopping. So circling back
(13:36):
to my closet and me being patient the color wheel
has helped me shop in my own closet. And it's
also helped me weed out things I want to donate
or sell on poshmark or give away or whatever.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And I can let go.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Of things with ease because I'm like, Okay, I don't
need to hold onto this anymore. I haven't worn it
in five years, probably because every time I put it on,
I felt blah because it's not my color and now
I'm releasing it.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Is there anything though, that you really really love that
You're just like, well, I'm going to keep it anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, there's a few things, okay, and I have a
special section in my closet for that now. And then
I am being patient in going shopping because my thing
this year is I'm not shopping unless I sell things
on Poschmark. So it's like in out like if a
certain amount of money is sold, then yay, I get
to go shopping. So I'm being very patient with that.
(14:27):
But I do think by the end of the year
or into next year, I'll have more of a closet
that I feel confident no matter what I pull, I'm
going to feel good. And that's what the color analysis
did for me. So yeah, it's an investment when you
pay for it. But it was crazy, like when Hannah
would hold the cloth up to me, I'd be like, oh,
I love this color, and then I would look in
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the miror and I was like, it looked fine and
I could see and then she would remove that and
instantly put on like a cloth over me that was
a shade a little bit different, and I would see
my eye and my face, like everything would change, like
just something about it was a different energy, and I
was like, oh, well, this is definitely my color. And
she told me that anytime I have an important business meeting,
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I need to wear this navy that's my power.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Do you have a navy suit?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, But I'm gonna get one as soon as I
can sell something to buy one, because I saw one
at Veronica Beard has some really beautiful like suit situations.
But that's some more expensive brand. So maybe I need
to try your method of anthropology where I put stuff
in my cart and I.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Can wait for it to go on sale.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
God, there's so many things I feel like if I
were to get it and I had a work meeting,
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Haven't that many work meetings? Yeah, Like are you gonna
wear that once a year? But it makes me want
to schedule work meetings. Oh Like when I go by
there in Green Hills, across from Whole Foods, there's a
Veronica Beard. When you walk by there, pretty much every
suit situation or vest you know, vests or in my
right now, like where they button in the front. Obviously
(16:02):
all vest button in the front, but you just wear it.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
You're going to button it. You used to wear in
vest in not button it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You don't wear a shirt underneath it or anything. You
just do like the vest.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And they have like matching shorts or skirt or pants.
When I walk by there, I'm like ronic Beard. Everything
on her mannequins is my color palette, and I'm like,
she is my brand. This is my brand, and it's
just a pricier brand. So I don't know if anybody
knows of Rodicga beer knockof, but I'm Lily. I'm at
a point in my life for two Okay, I'm forty three.
I can invest in some good pieces and I feel
(16:30):
like that's a brand that I'll have forever. Yeah, I'm
at a place where I do like to do that.
I know that there's things I've invested in over the
last few years that I'm going to have for a
very long time. And I can even pass on to
Stashira or something. I always wished my mom had done
something like that, but I don't really know that she cared,
nor that she wanted to, but I thought that would
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have been cool.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well, what could you do other than just sell things
on Poshmark to encourage and give yourself permission to buy
something that you're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
For you and years and years.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, right now, that's just my deal with myself. It
won't always be okay, it's just sort of my thing
for twenty twenty four. And I think that it's as
I was coming out of last year, I just realized
how much stuff I bought. I'm like, what, why do
I even have this?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It's overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Sometimes, yeah, I need to create a little bit of
just pause so that I can really start to appreciate
some things again. And I will say the color will
has been an investment into appreciating some pieces in my
closet that I previously did not appreciate, like the mushroom dress,
and it's allowed me to play around with a few things.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But I think that sometimes that's.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Probably just necessary, and that may be in other things
in life too.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It might not just be spending on clothes.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Maybe it's how you spend money in other categories of
your life. But I think just assessing that and being like,
you know, probably need to press pause on that for
a little bit, and then when I can get back
into it, I'll just have a greater appreciation for it
and spend more wisely.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Well, that's what I ended up getting a subscription for
a clothing rental service because I was getting really overwhelmed
where I would buy all these random things that were
maybe not very expensive, but then I didn't even really
like them that much, and then I just felt wasteful,
and again it's overwhelming to me to buy a bunch
of stuff like that. Then I'm like, why do I
have seventeen thousand sweaters? And I wear three of them?
(18:19):
But I don't want to get rid of any of
them either. So I started renting stuff, and then the
deal I made is based on how often I'm wearing
it when I rent it, because you can buy the
stuff that you rent at like a discount. And sometimes
I get something I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm still
gonna buy this, and then I only wear it twice
in a month, and I'm like, then I'm not going
to buy it. I got what I needed out of it.
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Or if there's something that I need that I know
I'm only going to want to wear once or twice,
like maybe a navy suit for the one business meeting,
and I would have a year, then I don't have
to spend two thousand dollars on it. I don't know
if that's how much sure suits are. That could be okay,
go that much, but whatever. But I just get gets
to be part of that and then I get to
send it back and get something else. So it's feeding
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that part of me that wants to update and have
different stuff without me having to commit to buying these
expensive pieces.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What is the place you rent through?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I do Newly, and it's owned pretty sure.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
It's owned by the company that owns Anthropology and Urban
and all that, so I can I've rented so many
things that are in my cart at Anthropology, and I've
just rented them, and sometimes I rent them more than once,
and then I don't have to buy it.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I mean, I'm paying for it, but it's a lot different.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I feel like with Newly, or even if you did,
like rent the Runway or something. One way to kind
of marry these two things would be if someone were
to get their color palette done or whatever, then you
could probably go in and select color categories yeah, and
only be shown things that are in your color palette,
and then you know you're renting things that you know
you're gonna feel good in it. That's a good idea,
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and I know it sounds like, maybe to some people
a little cuckoo, like, what are you telling me? People
have this underlying skin tone, which that's obvious we all have,
but that certain colors only look good with that. Yes,
I'm telling you that because I experienced it for myself
and I thought it was kind of crazy. But there's
definitely something to it, so I recommend you check it out.
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Speaking of recommendations, I have a podcast recommendation for you.
Speaking of recommendations, I have a podcast recommendation for you.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's called Something Was Wrong.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I've tried to remember what that was called, and I
couldn't find it.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay, So when my bff from high school was in town, Andrea,
I know she told us about it, but I've already
listened to three seasons since I last saw you with.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Her a week ago.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah. Yeah, there's nineteen seasons.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And it's really good, except for you're just never going
to trust anybody, got it. You're lucky you have already
met Patrick on Hinge and Yeller in a good space,
and he seems normal and good because probably not some
of these people they have met them online and you're like, what,
so Morgan on the Bobby Bone Show, she met this
guy on hinge or whatever, and he's a man in uniform.
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That's the story on the Bobby Bone Show. I mean
he is, but she's not saying what he does because
that's his information, you know. But he wears uniform and
he just left for two weeks. And so then my
mind instantly like, I hope for her sake because I
love Morgan. This guy's legit. But once you start listening
to this podcast fair warning, my brain is like, oh,
he's living a double life. He didn't leave for two
(21:32):
weeks for work. He left to go back to his
family up north.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And has she seen him in his uniform?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Good question.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I don't know yet, Like you as a therapist and
all the different things that you encounter, and I want
to respect your hippo situation whatever not whatever. Hippa is
very serious, but I don't know, Like you're privy to
what people are experiencing out in the world. Do you
think that people are lied to more often than we think.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Like that dramatically? Yes, I think it happens a good bit.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I think what happens more often than those exaggerated stories,
and it's like that salacious is that people tell little
white lies.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
That turn into something bigger.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I think it's very plausible that most first dates are
going on somebody might be telling you a lie or
omitting something.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Versus guys.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Well, I think there was a woman too, she was
a major gas lighter. But they're psychopaths, they're narcissists.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So yeah, that's yes, those people exist in the world,
but I don't think that they are the norm, and
I don't want.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
That to become the story people's heads.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Most likely it's not that, but it is also you
can be a liar and a person who might not
be a healthy person to be without being a total
psychopath too. So I think it's more likely that we're
experiencing like little lies and somebody's living a double life.
Like somebody might be like acting like they are more
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successful than they really are, or they're not telling you
the real story about how their last relationship ended, or
they're just keeping certain things that they're self conscious about
or worried that somebody would see as a red flag.
They're hiding that more often than that, they like are
actually a serial.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Killer whoa nobody's killed anybody on something beuse Oh no, no, no, okay,
not yet, Okay. In one of the seasons I've listened to,
there are more stories from people just warning you, like, hey,
if you see these red flags, pay attention, because once
they got in, they were into deep and then they
were brainwashed in a sense so where they couldn't see straight. Yeah,
(23:35):
And it's like, if you're on the outside listening looking in,
you're like, what, how in the world are you in
this situation. You're a smart capable person, and that's why
they're sharing their story. They're like, yeah, I'm a smart
capable person and this happened to me and I was
completely duped.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
There also is a Facebook group I don't know if
it's local, Like every city has their own called are
we Dating the same Guy?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah? Have you seen that?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm the one in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I'm not in it, but I have my friends, So
my friends are in it, and we have seen people
that we know on there. And there was a guy
that was messaging one of my friends that was on
there that we then found out was dating multiple other
people and we were connected to them, Like there are
people like that that look great and talk a great talk,
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so it happens, I just don't think.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
It's the norm.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well, that leads me to my email from Tammy. Okay,
a subject line double life. Oh Amy, I was with
someone who lied to me for twelve years. After he
passed away, I found terrible videos of his betrayal, which
I can't even imagine. I assumed Tammy maybe heard me
talking about this on the Bottom Bone Show, so she
sent that note to our podcast email and I thought, oh, like,
(24:46):
how terrible to figure that out after they passed. I mean,
and you're with them for that long and you have
no idea?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Okay, but speaking of is that the whole email? Yes? Okay,
short and sweet.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
That reminds me of listen to Britney snow on Call
Her Daddy. And I didn't know this because I didn't
watch this show, but her ex husband cheated on her
on a reality show he was on, which I'm like,
you have to be really bold to do that on
a reality show that you know people are gonna see.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Was he on Selling Sunset?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It was Selling the OC? So I watched Selling Sunset,
but I didn't watch Selling the OC. And then I
went back and I watched like the trailer and saw it.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
That is wild to me. And what she said.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
She is a very well spoken person who appears to
have done a lot of really great work on herself.
But she was talking about how she was shocked, she
had no idea that it happened. But what she had
to look at too is why did she miss all
the signs? She spoke very well on This wasn't my fault.
I didn't do anything to deserve this, and this was horrible.
And it doesn't help me to sit around and talk
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about how terrible this person is or that person is,
because what is going to be helpful for me is
to look at, well, why did I think that was
such a great relationship when clearly something had to been off?
What was I missing and what was I choosing to
get wrapped up in?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Or whatever? The way she spoke about it I really respected.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And she was on there talking about her movie right,
which is called Parachute, which comes out this weekend.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I'm pretty sure it's the fifth right Yeah, which I
very much want to see. And speaking of I was
just talking to a friend about any podcast episodes of
people who are in a healthy place in recovery, talking
about specifically eating disorders and other than outweigh what episodes
we had to share with clients and stuff like that,
and I was like, I don't really have any And
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then I listened to her talk about it.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
I didn't know she had an eating disorder, and I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Maybe she has talked about this, maybe she hasn't, but
the way she speaks and the way she talked about
her experience was one of the I think best examples
of a celebrity talking about recovery because it's hard. It's
hard to share that in a space where she had
no control over the editing and I assume like she
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was on somebody else's podcast.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
The way she did it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And then I watched the trailer of Parachute, which is
apparently about her story, and I got chills just watching
the trailer. But I think that that movie, from what
I gathered, is going to be a very relatable, real
less Hollywood.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Version of what it's like to struggle with something like that.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
We're going to go see it together this weekend, right,
I hope?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So? Okay, yeah, no, I recommend people check that out
as a way to who knows, I don't know if
it's appropriate yet for what age. But I'm thinking as
a parent, maybe you even watching it first and then
if it is something appropriate to watch if you have
a daughter or son that might be able to relate
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in a way.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I mean, I'm just throwing that out as like thinking
as a parent, like you're always looking for conversation starters,
and for me with my daughter, sometimes when something comes
up in a TV show or a movie, it gives
us a way to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
So without seeing it, I can't say that for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
So I will to say if you're an adult listening,
and you know we get emails from you, I know
that you're out there where you're like, oh, my daughter's
struggling with this or my son.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I don't really know what to do.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
But sometimes if you have something to watch with your child,
But again I don't know that Parachute is it, but
I recommend watching it first to see.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well, you know, the way she described why she named
it parachute was really interesting, and I think this is
where you can create a lot of conversations probably about
this movie and maybe we'll know more after we see it.
But she said she named it parachute because she said,
we're all looking for something to help us make the
fall feel easier and less painful and less uncomfortable. And
we all have a parachute, and part of recovery is
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learning how to probably let go of that parachute and
sit in the discomfort and stop trying to find the
next thing that's going to carry you through, which is
one of the hardest things ever to do. So I'm
very excited and I'm very optimistic that it's going to
be something that we can share with people who need
to feel less alone or just need an easier way
to understand what their friend is going through or what
a family member is going through.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
I don't think we have that right now. Yeah, I
have another movie recommendation. We're recommending one of course we
haven't seen yet. We're helpful, but it's going to be good.
But one that I watched this last weekend. And this
is a throwback. I'm a little late to the party
because it's from two thousand and six, but it's a
Russell Crowe movie called A Good Year.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Never heard of that.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, same guy that was in Gladiator, and the same
director of Gladiator actually directed this movie.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
And it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's this romantic love story but you'll laugh. He's a
financial guy living in London, like as a trader, and
then his uncle passes away. He's got a vineyard and
a chateau in Provence and he basically goes there. I'm
not giving anything away. This is part of the trailer.
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But he goes there because he's inherited it and he
wants to fix it up and sell it. But then
he's flooded with memories of his childhood and then you
know it all feel good.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Feel good, Like it is so good. And I'm like,
whoa talk about eighteen years late, because that's when this
came out. I thought, look at you, Russell Crowe.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
What made you watch that? What made you choose that?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I had heard about it, like, hey, it's good, so
I thought, well, I'm gonna give it a go. Same
thing with Gladiator. I watched that late last year. So
there you go to Russell Crowe movies. Because I never
thought i'd be interested in Gladiator.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
I've never seen that.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Oh so good.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I don't think I would like.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
No, I didn't think so either. Kat. I'm telling you, Okay,
that's your homework.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I'd rather watch the one that's a feel good.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, but why not watch both? They're both good.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Okay, I know Gladiator doesn't seem like it, but I
bet Big P would like to watch that with you. Yeah,
do you have any recommendations besides Parachute, which we don't know?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Again for sure that's gonna be good.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I checked back next week Well, I this weekend watched
Well I sorted a while ago, but I finished one
day on Netflix, which is based off of Book. I
never read the books and don't plan to. But or Book,
I don't know if it's one or multiple. I will
say slow to start. It took me a while to
get into it, and then once I got into it,
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I was hooked. It is not a feel good in
my opinion because I was hysterically crying at the end
of it, but it made me feel things. I'll just
say that I don't know that I felt good at
the It was a really good story, and I said
after we were done watching it, Patrick watched like the
last three episodes and he was like, I feel like
I would have also been emotional if I watched the
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build up, but I just was like hysterically crying. Couldn't breathe,
there's like snot in my nose, and I was like,
I don't know what to do now, Like I was
just sad, and then how do you just like move
on with your life.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I know it was not real, but I just didn't
know what to do.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I was like, should be like, I don't know, I
have a moment, or I don't know how to like
I can't decide if you're recommending it.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
No, it was good. It was really good. I will say.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I will say I finished it at like one am
on Friday, and my sister was definitely asleep because she's
like nine months pregnant now she's happened to baby tomorrow.
But I texted her at one am a picture of
me with like, you know, snot over my face and
my eyes bloodshot, and I was like, why did I
watch this? That is the reaction I had. But it
was a really good story. Watch it when you feel
(32:14):
emotionally stable.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Okay, or if you need to cry, yeah, so maybe
watch it when you're unstable, yeah, okay, it'll help you
get no, because here's my thing on that, sometimes you're
a little unstable when you need to cry because you
gotta let it all out.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, it feels good. What do they call it? Cathartic?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah, and then once the tears come out, you can
go back to being a little more stable.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
She need to have that release.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Sure, yeah, Okay, watch it in whatever state you're in.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
OK.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I do have a recommendation for us. We'll close with
a voicemail that I got from Heather. She has a
new sport for us to play. Because I know you
and Big per into pickleball, and then also you, me
and Big p we go off together now it's our thing,
go to the driving range.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I did it once, announce her.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
We're gonna go again soon.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
But she has a sport recommendation for us, and I
thought other people may be able to try it out too.
So we'll end with this voicemail from Heather.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Hi, Amy, my name is Heather and I'm from Anna, Texas,
and I wanted to alert you to something since you
have mentioned you wanted to get back into tennis. But
I really think you should seek out this new sport.
It's new in the US. It's picking up momentum, but
it's like the fastest scrowing sport in the world. And
(33:31):
it's called paddle or pa d e l is how
it's spelled. It's a combination of really like squash and
tennis and racquetball, and it's got glass walls and it's
tennis scoring and it's on AstroTurf and it's all doubles
and it's such a fun community and especially when people
(33:51):
are learning something new. So I just really wanted to
alert you to this, and I hope you will seek
it out and try it because I think you would
really like it. Thank you for what you do and
on your guests, You've got so much to my life.
I'm just grateful. So I hope you have the day
you need to have.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Okay, bye, all right, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Thank you Heather for that recommendation.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And y'all can call and leave us a voicemail too,
eight seven seven two oh seven two oh seven seven.
You can also email us four Things with Amy Brown
at gmail dot com, at.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Kat where can people find.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
You on Instagram, at at cat dot defauda, and at
You Need Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And check out her podcast.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
It's obviously called you Need Therapy, because that's why that's
the handle. Her You Need Therapy episodes are on Monday,
and her couch Talks are on Wednesday, and I saw
you put up this super cute post about couch talks
that sometimes when you sit down to record it, you're like, what.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Am I even doing? Why?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Blah blah blah, And then, without a doubt, never fails,
you get messages from people that are thankful for the
conversation that you're having or the topics that you're bringing
up and the stories that you're sharing. So kudos to you,
thank you, And if you don't want to find me,
I'm at Radio Amy on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Bye Bye,
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