#474 - Drew Parker on Opening for Luke Combs Before He Was Famous

On this episode of The Bobbycast, Bobby Bones sits down with singer-songwriter Drew Parker! He talks about getting paid $100 to open up for Luke Combs before he was famous and how it led to him writing some of his biggest hits. Drew also shares that he got a degree in radiology and that he worked at a hospital until he got his first number one song in 2020. He also shares the story behind another song he wrote, Jake Owen's "Homemade." Drew also reveals that his album is done, why he feels there is a career defining song on it and more! 

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I got a call, like on a Friday afternoon from
the promoter. It's like, hey, my opener backed out. I'll
pay you a hundred bucks to come up here. It's like, yeah,
who am I opening for a new guy that just
like moved to Nashville. His name's Luke COLEMs And I
was like, okay, cool. I didn't know who Luke was
at the time. Episode four seventy four. It's Drew Parker.

(00:27):
I like this guy.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Not that I don't like everybody, but some people you
just kind of click with and you can just have
a conversation and it just feels like kind of normal,
like you could just like two I didn't know him,
but like two buddies just talking for a while. I
kind of got this with Drew, and I felt like
I felt like we could have done like two hours.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, like you hang out with them after. Yeah we didn't,
by the way, No, but I think I could have. Yeah,
I think I could have. His instagram is Drew Parker. Plays.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
His full length album, Camouflage Cowboy, came out this summer.
His single is Love the Leaving, which is climbing. I
don't know where it is on a chart right now.
I know that we play it a little bit, and
I end up telling him in this like, hey, we're
gonna help you out a little bit because it's a
good song.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
He's from Georgia. He started singing in church like a
lot of folks do. He's written big, big, big songs.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
But I'll let you hear the story about that and
how one of these songs, like major artists wanted to
cut it and he had to go, no, I'm gonna
keep this one, which is crazy because if any of
these major artists cut it, he makes a lot of money.
He basically gave up money for the chance to possibly
make some money for himself.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, it's a tough call.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's a tough call, I know, especially as writers too,
like his writers he wrote it with, They're.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Like, no, give it to them. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
So I like Drew Parker. Check it out here. He
is episode four seventy four. Drew.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I just got a text about fourteen minutes ago. Be
nice to Drew. He's a bud that's from Gator. Harrison.
How do you know Gator like typical radio stuff or
do you guys like have any history of doing anything
social golf?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Golf? Yeah, really. Hell, we live both on the same
side of town, so.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh man, it's forever going. I'll go play golf a
gator and it's like a fifty minute drive. It's out
there with any traffic, and.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I'm farther like I live farther out than that. Do
you have like do you look like a property guy?
You have a property? I mean I don't, but I
there's plenty around me that I hope so big.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I thought it had to be on a property, Like
I saw you drive up and I was like, is
that a truck on top of another truck?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
And it was not. It was just your truck.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Now, when you buy that truck, do you buy it
lifted that much already or did you lift it yourself?
Or is it not lifted at all?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's it has like like a one and a half
inch list.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
You gotta be kidding me, I swear, Okay, how big
of the tires? Thirty seven minutes tars, Mike, It's a monster, right,
It's huge. Okay, So what am I not getting? Because
I don't know anything about cars?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
What I don't know? I'm like big on the it
looks like a glorified truck. Honestly, it's yeah, but it's huge.
It is big. Yeah, it's huge. Yeah, you know, might
have to you know, pull a buddy out of the
pitch or something. I don't know, a little wench for that.
But I mean, this is like my dream truck. This
is like what I like. Well, it's just I mean,
I wouldn't say that this is exactly my dream truck

(03:15):
because they didn't. This truck didn't exist when I when
you were eleven, right exactly. But it's like now it's
what I envisioned I would have loved when I was eleven.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
This is that meaning like, you're doing good enough now
you can just go get whatever truck you want.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Uh no, this will be.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
This I mean is if I'm asking the question, you
have to be it's not humble to answer it.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It is like if that's like I just.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Bought my freaking dream car. Yeah, the first time, and
it's awesome and I love it.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, but I couldn't do it again. I couldn't go
do it again. I couldn't go get another You need to, No,
I don't. Oh yeah, so yeah this is yeah, this
is it. That's cool.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, I'll have it to the world's fall off. Oh
I'll trade mine in about a year.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
But no, this is yeah yeah, yeah, uh so what
is Covington, Georgia like very small town suburb of Atlanta.
It's definitely, you know, it's kind of expanded. Atlanta's kind
of expanded there. Now it's not the same talent it
was when I was growing up.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
How suburban? How long does it take to get out
of Atlanta to a forty five minutes? But yeah, I
mean it's not the exact same talent it was when
I was growing up. When I was growing up there
there was only one high school.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
When I was a kid, An there's like three west
size was your high school? Six hundred? I have any okay,
so not big? Mine was.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
We were single A, then went to double A. I
don't know what the class we would be.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
We were like we were actually four A. In my
senior year. She played ball, but I was. I played baseball.
I was the first full graduated class. So my freshman
year it was a brand new school. Oh dang, yeah,
I was the first class with her. We had a
school wasn't ours. We had a school that was brand new.
It was called Center Point.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
There were a brand new school, but they struggle in
athletics for a while because they were a brand new
school and I don't know, just a bunch of random
kids that went there. They didn't have any history, right
and any tradition.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Did you guys have any experience that, Yeah, very much so.
But my senior year we went to a final four
in state in baseball and then got molly wopped, just
destroyed by a team of Atlanta. Did you play any
like pro ball players that later turned pro? Not that well.

(05:27):
I played like Jason Hayward's younger brother, but I don't
think he was like, well, that's funny. I mean, Jason Hayward.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I'm a big Cups fan, So yeah, Hayward's yeah, big
part of the reason that we did anything back in
the day in sixteen.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
So I remember playing his brother. There was some other guy.
There was a guy that hit an absolute mammoth of
a home run off of me that went and played somewhere,
and I think he owes a lot of that to
me because there were tons of scouts there watching him,
and I just.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
That's so funny that he said Jason Hayward, And I'm like, wow,
younger brother, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
When did you move to Nashale. Oh what year twenty fifteen,
September twenty fifteen. I guess he's been here a little
bit nine years.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Let's talk music, because I got a lot of stuff
to talk about. What do you wanna do first? You
want to do the greatest hits? What do you want
to do?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
You? This is the greatest hits? Okay, got a.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Grammy nominee nomination for doing this with Luke Combs. You
guys met back like Rome.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, we met in a bar in Rome, Georgia, Georgia.
Was he playing the bar? He was? I was opening.
I got a call, like on a Friday afternoon from
the promoter. It's like, hey, my opener backed out. I'll
pay you a hundred bucks to come up here. I
was like, yeah, who am I opening for? He was like, well,
it's this new guy that just like moved to Nashville.

(06:44):
His name's Luke Combs. And I was like, okay, cool.
I didn't know who Luke was at the time, but
we opened that show that night and we just hit
it off. And he was like, man, I just moved
to Nashville. You should come up there and let's write songs.
And I had never written a song before and I was,
but I was like, well, this seems like my ticket
to Nashville, because I'd always wanted to go. I was like,
this seems like my ticket. So I was like absolutely.

(07:06):
So for the next nine months, I drove back and
forth from Georgia to Nashville and wrote songs. What was
that drive? Three hundred miles? Did you have a normal job?
I did? I have a degree in radiology. Wow. So
that nine months, I like was sending like resumes to
try to get a job at a hospital up here,

(07:27):
and it took nine months, but I finally did. And
then that's when I moved.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I think, if I'm doing my research here, you have,
as far as radiologists go, the biggest truck ever, any
radiologist ever, largest radiologist truck.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah. Why did you go into radiology? It was so
I did like joint enrollment, like my junior senior ye
of high school, which was like half college half high
school credits or whatever was it? Because you were so ahead.
I mean, it's okay, well I really don't remember. I
think so, but it allowed for me to have this

(08:02):
opportunity to be able to go, you know, take two
classes at the college. The local Community College in Covington.
So when I got out, I had this plan that
I was going to go play music. Moved to Nashville
one day, so I like kind of looked into what
are the credits that I've earned at this point that
I can get through something quickly? Right when like radiology

(08:23):
was like one of the ones that popped up. Were
you interested in that? Did you know really what it was?
I liked the medical field. I thought it was like
an easy place to get a job. I mean, my
whole plan was to wind up here in the music business.
What was going to get me their quick, quickest and
to help me pay my rent.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Only person that's ever come in to said the medical
industry is what was going to get me to Nashville
to write song. You're the only person that's ever happened
probably so so.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
And you did that. You did radiology for a little bit.
I did so. I got here in twenty fifteen and
worked at a hospital in Nashville, and I worked there
until the week I had first number one in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's a wild story that's extremely versatile of you can
you look at my ankle, you well, you don't have
the equipment oh kind of makes for your ankle.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, uh no, I don't have the equipment.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
But if you did, oh I did, if christ did
you put the thing on? Where you have to like
where the did you? You have to run out of
the room right Like they're like, yeah, you're supposed to.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
But really, I mean, here's the thing. Man, It's like
takes too much. Like really you're supposed to go get help,
like where the thing? But man, when you're like patients
are like coming in and out like a lots of fast,
you're gonna get backed up. You're just kind of like,
all right, well this will be quicker if I just
don't go ask for helping take the risk of ready. Yeah,

(09:44):
but my kids all you know, the two kids I
have have all their fingers and toes. So I think
we've made it out alive. Talk to me.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
So you're in Rome, Georgia with Luke Combs. How many
people do you think are at the show that night?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I've always said that there was sixty people at the
show that night. I've been told that that is false,
but I'm that's close. Were you the only support? Was
it you? Then, Luke? No? There was another guy, h
Jacob Bryant and do you meet Luke pre or post
pre pre show? And then we hung out post show

(10:18):
and we just hit it off. I mean we just
had the same interest. It was like kind of like sports,
like we just found you know, we just liked all
the same things.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
And so he says, hey, here's my information, and like
it's not like he was killing it right he was.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
He was far from finger quotes Luke Comb's oh not
even close.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
But what was he able to lend you as far
as like advice or he already lived here, so you
had like a buddy or someone you could like rely
on to be here?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Like what was that? Well? I just knew that there
was some confidence there that I couldn't. I mean, it's
also like you hear somebody that you're like a massive
fan of and you're like, okay, that guy's good, and
the person that you think is good is telling you
you're good. So you're like, okay, well there's a little
validation there. He respected your music as well.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, that's pretty cool because even before he blew up,
you would hear him sing and you would go, oh, yeah,
he's really good.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
But it was like the first time that I heard
him sing. It was like, again, this is before he
even had an hit song. He was in studio and
he sings so violently, but he's a pure singer. At
the same time, he's incredible. It's one of those rare
where someone can go extremely hard. It's like oh, but
also like what do you want him to sing?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Like? It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, he doesn't get the credit for being like a
pure vocalist because of how aggressive he sings, and also
just because he looks like a normal dude. But I
remember thinking that and if he thought I was good,
which he did not think I was a good singer,
so I don't know I have the same then I
think that would give me confidence.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
And you felt that way about yourself, Yeah, I mean
it did. And I knew that he, you know, had
offered the invite to come to Nashville to write songs.
I knew that that's kind of not an inn and
tell him, but like, that's kind of where you start,
like when you get to hear right songs. So here's
a guy that lives in Nashville doing what I want
to do, who is inviting me to write songs, and

(12:03):
so I take that opportunity. What was home like for
you growing up? Your parents? Were they together? They? Yep,
very supportive, very involved. I mean so music for me
started when I was like ten, singing in church and
like traveling all over the Southeast. My dad would get
off work on Friday and we'd pack my mom's expedition

(12:25):
with like sound equipment and we'd go sing at a
church or I would go sing at a church a
family and it was just me.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Oh so they were just being supportive. Yeah, so how
at ten? Why at ten did you want to start
singing in church? Did you have like friends that sang,
a youth director that sang? Like how did you get
involved there?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
There was this guy in my church that sang and
he would literally go sit up set up sound equipment
in the Arby's parking lot and sing on like Friday nights.
And my parents would go up there and we'd like
spend Friday nights in the Arby's parking lot watching this
guy sing. And so he like introduced me to the
stage there. And so it's just like thing that developed
and just one thing led to another, and my parents,

(13:05):
you know, always I wouldn't say they pushed me to
do it. But they saw that, you know, it was
something I wanted to do, and they whatever it took
for me to be able to do that super encouraging.
Oh very are they so proud of you now? I'd
like to think so. Yeah, I think so because I.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Think that would be pretty cool to have somebody that
you know and love kind of risk it.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
All.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
This is a wild industry where almost nobody makes it,
and if you do make it, you know, making it
is if you actually make its just paying your bills
like that.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's been my goal, that's all. That's the only thing
that's ever been My goal is to provide for my
family doing what I love. So whatever that meant.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Anybody that can do an art they love and support
themselves like to me, that's making it.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
And the fact that you've been able to because you
said you hadn't written you hadn't really written in these songs, right,
not really? And again we're doing the greatest hits before
we get to specific stuff about you.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
But it's like.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
All the songs that you now have written, you know,
with and for Luke, were you sitting in rooms with
people that had written the way Nashville writes or were.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Just you and Luke writing and he was learning. How
it was like it was me and Luke and other
folks that he had met the same way he had
met me in a sense. I mean we were just
learning together really, and we were just writing songs that
we would want to listen to. You know. It wasn't
We never never felt like we were chasing anything, which
is interesting.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
But do you remember like learning the formula meaning Okay,
we're gonna we're gonna sit down, and this is very concept.
It's a very concept first town more so than a
melody town, right, and we're gonna go uh verse chorus,
uh bridge or verse bridge core, whatever the case, and going, oh,
this kind of makes sense. Now there's a formula. I

(14:54):
never really looked at song. Its like a formula, like
did you learn that when you hear or were you
just listening to enough song to sing enough songs that
you kind of understood that anyway, even before you you
wrote anything.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, I think just by listening to other songs and
kind of just learning that way. But there's so many
different it was. I was always like a stickler on
like rhymes and like you know, finding them the right
place to land and like the phrasing of the thing.
But I think that was, you know, from the music
that I grew.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Up on, Like prechorses were always trippy to me, because
I never even thought of such a thing, right, the
new choruses and I knew that.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I was like, oh, pre chorus. Pre chorus is just
the thing that helps you like the end of your
verse doesn't quite carry you into the chorus. So you're
just like, well, we need to make something up that
gets us to the chorus. Yeah, but we can repeat that.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
People will also sing, did you let's take Luke out
of this rite with anybody where you're like, holy crap.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I think I just took a lesson in writing early on.
Like Ben Hayslip, Yeah, he was one of the guys
that wrote with me early on. There was a few,
but I mean for the most part, it was just
people that I was meeting.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
You go into the song rounds and you know, I
feel like I've been fortunate in my time here. Like
so we launched, we semi launched like a secret project.
And what do I know about songwriting? Nothing except for
I wrote comedy songs right, very different. I can write verse, chorus,
bridge chorus, chorus, chorus, chorus, as long as it's funny,

(16:25):
it doesn't matter, and as long as it grows. But me,
Ross Kapperman, Nicole Gallian we got together and we're like,
we're going to create this cartoon kind of like the
Mike who is a feel good the Gorillas, the Gorillas,
kind of like kind of the Gorilla. Actually, what it
happened was I'd seen a thing in like sixty minutes.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
We're in Japan. They have a hologram.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
It does like ten to at once, and I'm like, oh,
this is how we make money.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Holy cas.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
So I went to Ross and I was like, well,
let's let's write a bunch of songs. Not really knowing
anything other than writing comedy songs. I was like, let's
we're gonna build this hologram and it's going to open
for everybody at once, and we're gonna sit home account
our money.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
That's brilliant, and so he was like, let's go.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
And so we got in a call and we went
and wrote every week everywhere, and I remember just going, oh,
I had no idea, Like I thought I.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Had an idea, and I knew music. I knew how
to write that.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
But just like the precision of like really talented songaters
and you're one of those now. But when I was
newly kind of adopted into let's write this stuff, I
was just like, oh, I had no idea you could
do so many things with songs and concepts and turning
meanings around and flipping things like I got a big lesson, And.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
I don't know where that came from for me, Like
that's kind of always been like what fires me up
is like trying to find an idea that can be flipped.
You know. Now we get in rooms and we're like, well,
let's not do the We don't there's no reason for
us to do the trick, you know what I mean,
like make it mean something else, but saying the same
thing the whole time. But that's fun to me. That's

(17:54):
like a you know, it's like a puzzle, putting a
puzzle together in more ways than ones. So but I don't,
I don't. I think it just honestly learning. We were
all learning together.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
To be honest with you, that's fine because again there's
not a lot of pressure there. There was none that
was learning, you know, there was we didn't have publishing deals.
I met a guy there was a guy he was
teaching like a music class at Uga and Athens.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
I didn't go there, but I didn't. I grew up
not far from there. But he was a songwriter, Like
he wrote some Reeven McIntyre hits back in the day,
and I cold like emailed him one day and I
was like, hey, man, I'm a new songwriter, like looking
for advice, honestly, and I remember him specifically saying, find

(18:45):
someone that you believe in and write as many songs
as you can with them. What I didn't realize is
I was already doing that with Luke. And I mean
it wasn't until years later that I kind of realized
that the device he had given me something that I
was already doing. That's super Bowl. He responded like that, though,
yeah it was. I mean what incredible advice. I mean
it's advice that I give today, Like, find somebody you

(19:08):
would bet everything on and just go write a bunch
of songs with them.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I wonder your direction because you move here obviously you're
a singer and your writing and you're an artist, and
you're in the Luke camp before it's officially been a camp,
Like it's just a couple of tenths before it turned
into a full fledged camp because Luke's success took off.
Were you like, all right, we're just gonna be the
engine on this thing for a little bit. Yeah, for sure,

(19:33):
more so than I'm gonna take and go. Because it
is a grind to be an artist, a new artist,
because you have to do radio tour, you have to
You've got to be gone a lot, making no money.
But now the group that you had cultivated with like
minded people, they're all enjoyed writing together. That started to hit,
That started to hit. Did you make a conscious decision

(19:54):
of all right, I'm still gonna play, but I can't
really go and pursue this full artist thing because I
really believe what we're doing now and I want to
get out of it what I can.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, that was definitely part of it, But it was
also just I was still learning and preparing myself for
who exactly I wanted to be as an artist. And
I mean that being an artist is exactly what I
moved here for. I wanted to sing, and I wanted
to play shows, and I wanted to be an artist.
Songwriting was like a gift that I discovered God and

(20:24):
given me, like kind of after I got here. It
just kind of happened, right, And but once the started
having cuts and that kind of thing, it's you kind
of go through your head of like, okay, now, which
do I really want this thing? Or is this good enough?
And ultimately I decided that how bad I wanted to

(20:44):
be an artist. And but I still think about those moments,
and there's a pivotal moments of like holding onto a
song or you know, letting a song go. But yeah,
it was. It was a fun time and still is
a fun time to be in in that the songwriting
process writing songs for other folks too. You mostly write

(21:06):
for yourself now, no really, I mean when I was
working on this record, I mean I was writing pretty
hard for myself. But that was the first time I'd
ever really written for myself, even like all the EPs
that I'd put out, that was just me writing songs,
just trying to write a good song, and if it
wound up with somebody, that was fine, and if it didn't,

(21:26):
it was you know, I's gonna be able to record it.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
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Speaker 2 (21:44):
A couple of things that stand out to me from
what you just said, the maturity to go I'm still
finding myself as an artist because I did not have
never had that. I'm just like, I know who I am.
I'm about to find it who I am. I'm lowering
my head and going full speed speed into everything. And
what you just said, you were like, I'm still kind

(22:05):
of finding myself as an artist. So I was here
and you were investing time in learning how to write,
like that feels pretty mature for somebody that was in
their twenties, because I thought added all figured out.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I mean, I have my wife to think for
a lot of that. I mean, I've been married pretty
much ever since I got to town, so I didn't
have anything that I had to say. I mean, I
really didn't, and I was just kind of preparing myself
for those moments and making sure that that's exactly what

(22:34):
I wanted to do. And I mean it kind of
goes back to I wanted to be able to provide
for my family. Well, when you're getting cuts for other
artists and getting radio singles, I mean it's easy to go, Okay,
well I'm providing for my family doing this. But now
is it what I want to do? And you know,
having the success as a songwriter kind of freed up
being able to go not make any money being an artist.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
When you quit your job in the hospital, what did
you need to happen and what did happen for you
to be able to do that?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
So it was I made a deal with the boss
at the hospital that if I ever got a number
one song, that I would come work one more shift
and then I'd be done. That's an awesome deal. Yeah,
and I'm telling you this right now. Her name is
Tracy Lienberger, the greatest boss that has ever walked the
face of the earth. Anytime I needed off to go
play a show for a hundred bucks, she would let me.

(23:27):
I mean it was she was the best. So I'd
made this deal with her. March twenty second of twenty twenty,
I got my first number one homemade by Jacoben. I
called my boss. I said, hey, I'll be there tomorrow,
but that's gonna be it. I got my first number one.
She was like, congratulations, she's tracking it with you by
an each other. Yeah she knew, I mean yeah, and

(23:51):
the whole I mean, even the folks I worked with
were like cheered me on, you know, and so I
called her. I'm like, hey, I'll be there tomorrow and
that's let's gonna be it for me. And worked like
second shift, so I would go in at like from
three pm to eleven. And so that day, Monday, I'm
getting ready to go work my last shift of the hospital.

(24:11):
I'm in my bedroom putting scrubs on. By the way,
this is March of twenty twenty. I mean, working in
the medical field was chaos and I'm putting my scrubs on.
My wife walks in the bedroom and tells me that
she is going into labor. So I had to call
my boss and say, actually, I am on my way
to the hospital, but it's not to work. And dude,

(24:34):
the boss met me at my car, helped me and
my wife get into the hospital. And I never I
still owe her technically that last shift. But that's a
great story.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, Homemade I changed Jake's life.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
It really did change mind too.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah. It's such a great song and I can speak
to it. I'm we're close to that family, and Jake
had a ton of success, and I think Jake was
then trying to find himself as an artist. He'd That
song kind of put him back on in a major way.
And I remember the first time that he played it,

(25:10):
I was like, oh, God, dang, and.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
That it's a trick. You did the trick in it too.
You don't talk about it.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
It's homemade, but homemade and it was such a big
song for his career still is.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
But I guess.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, I've never spoken to you about that, So
tell me the story about that song, if there is one.
Who was it a note in a phone that somebody
brought in one of these like this is so good?
Or was it just one that just you just sent
off to the publisher like who knows?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah. I had Jared Mullins and Ben Goldsmith on my
calendar that day and I had never written with either
of them, And so we get there and Jared's like, hey,
I got this idea called homemade, and I mean just
immediately I was like, oh, thank you Jesus, Like this
is I mean, I think every good song starts with

(25:59):
a great idea. And I immediately knew. And I was like,
homemade me love a dirt road, and he was like yes,
And so then I knew that we were on the
same page about what this idea was supposed to be.
So we start working on it. We write like a
verse and a chorus, and if you listen to that course,
it says homemade fifty billion times in it. So getting

(26:20):
those to like land in the pocket in the right
place was like kind of hard and like tripping us
up a little bit. And we had the whole lyrics,
the melody was pretty much mapped out, but it wasn't
like nailed, and we were like struggling pretty good on it,
and Jared Mullins goes, hey, I was with Bobby Pinson
last night. What if I call him to come help us?
And I was like, I mean, I'm a new writer,

(26:43):
and tell him pretty much. And I'm like, Bobby Penson, Yeah,
get him over here. I've never written with him, but
obviously a hero writer of mine, you know, yes, funny guy.
So he gets he was actually bush hogging. He was like,
send me the send me the work tape. So Jared
sent him the work tape of what we had versus chorus.
He called Jared back and said I'm on my way,

(27:04):
and he got there and we finished it. It was
a crazy moment in my personal life with my wife.
I was there. I had never written a song. I
mean usually it's like, you know, maybe on average, I
would say three hours to write a song. Well, this
started at like maybe ten or eleven AM. And at

(27:24):
nine pm we were still there and my wife's like,
where you at. I'm like writing. She's like writing, you
don't ever write this song. I was like, I'm writing,
I'm writing a hit song. And so we left that
night with a demo and the full song done, and
I think it went on hold that night, but not
with Jake, and it was kind of a crazy it

(27:46):
like got passed around town and can you can you
say who? Chris Young? I think was the first guy.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
He would have sounded a good singing Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
I mean I was excited. Yeah. And then Jake was
like heard it, found out about it, and he was like,
I will cut this tomorrow if I can have it,
and he pretty much did. You wrote for eleven twelve hours.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Nineteen eleven twelve hours, you're right, and mostly it's three
four hours.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Were you grinding away at it because you believed it
so much? Or were you grinding away at it because
you wanted to finish it? And it was there a
time when you ever, because I'll get especially writing.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
It doesn't matter what I'm writing.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
If I'm minuted enough, I start to lose what I've lost,
if it even feels good anymore, and I've got to go.
I just have to believe my instincts at the beginning
of this and finish it, even though I don't even
understand why.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I do that a lot, and that's you know, that's
a tough thing. This was different. I knew that this was.
I never had a hit, so I guess I didn't know,
but it just this had all the right pieces. To me.
The melody felt like a hit, and.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
The guys felt that way too, or they wouldn't have
said for sure the whole day, and I wouldn't the
whole time.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
It wasn't like we were writing the song for nine
or ten hours. We left with a demo and we
were like, we perfected that demo that we sent to
passed around, you know, So you know, I had sang
the whole song. We had played all the guitar parts
for it, done all like the cool background things, so
like part of it was like us doing that part
of it too.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
So you spent all day doing that when you could
have done it four different days.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
We could have come back the next week and sure
and done the demo, but we were like, this has
to be somebody needs this right now. You had that
feeling since it's just like, yeah, I have with a
song that's already out, with a song that I just
recorded that went on it. It's a song called Love

(29:35):
the Leaving, which that's like, that's like your career song,
you think it is. I think, so that's what I
read about you. Well, what so my record was done,
no room for any more songs. I wrote Love the Leaving.
My record's done. So as a songwriter, I start pitching around.
It goes hol on hold within like two hours with

(29:57):
three different artists.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
How does that how to three artists? Because there's no
communication that somebody's put it on hold?

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Pretty much it happens. I mean, dude, it happened so fast.
Can you say who?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, I don't mind. Uh Nate Smith, Luke Holmes, and
Morgan Wallen. Oh my god, that was my reaction.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Like you're talking about first Luke and Morgan right tier
one And Nate Smith is on such a run.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
This was like the week after he's coming off like
ten week number one, So all three of those put
it on hold yeah, and and I was thrilled to death.
I was like, oh man, I did it that. We
did it again. I'm like talking to my co writers
like cause you don't, I mean, because that's get to
do it again. Also listen, that's your co writers are
like we got three, I mean we were we were

(30:47):
a money moon. This felt like a guaranteed it. Okay,
so how did it? How did How did I get
back to you? I had a meeting with my label
and I don't even really know why, but I played
them the song and I was like, but I can't
record it. It's one of these guys is going to record it.

(31:09):
And the head of my label is like, you have
to record this. This is a career song. This is
the one. And I was like, man, who said that.
Chris Lacey, she's great, incredible. I mean, I needed somebody
to convince me that.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I just canceled lunch with her like two weeks ago
because I had freaking sinus infection and I don't have lunch
with anybody.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I don't even like lunch. I don't even like I
don't even like food.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
With another human, like my food by myself and I
like enjoy Chris so much.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, she's great, She's great, great. I mean she she
and she talked through the whole thing with me. She
was like why not And it goes back to the
whole thing I want to provide for my family, and
I'm like going through my head with her, like I've
got to go tell my wife that one of these

(32:00):
three biggest artists is not going to record it because
I'm going to record it. I was like, I'm the unproven,
they're the proven. I've also got to go tell two
songwriters who were over the moon about the three biggest artists.
That would be what I would think would be difficult
because I didn't know how to tell them because they're thinking, wow,

(32:21):
look at these three guys.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
They were going to cut our song. We just wrote it,
and you're going to go to them and go, no,
I'm going to cut it now, dude. I was terrified.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
So, I mean, me and her talking to this whole thing,
and I was like, I need the weekend to think
about this, Like I really did. I knew it was
a hit song, and I texted Luke and I was like, hey, man,
I need to like talk to you about something like,
I know you love this song and I would love
for you to record it, and I think you would
make it a mega hit. But do you think I'd

(32:50):
be crazy for me recording And he was like, dude,
I don't know why the heck you weren't going to
record it to begin with. And I mean we had
a long conversation. He's like, man, the artist thing, it's
a fleeting thing. You gotta grab it while you can,
like and with this song, like you have to do that.
So like that helped me talking to my wife about it.

(33:12):
I mean, it helped me. It's cool that he's a
friend too, not just someone who has your song on
hold that's a star, Oh no, no, yeah, it's like that's
a cool thing, yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Otherwise, let's say it's Jimmy Johnston who has your song
is a big and you're like, I want to like,
I don't know, man, I think it's wise to let
the star have it because he's not your friend for sure. Yeah,
that's really cool that Luke does that as a friend. Yep,
he still got two to go.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, And and he was like, I mean, he was like, man,
we're we're gonna write plenty of some more songs like
but yeah, then I had to call my co writers,
And I can't tell you how great these two guys are,
Lindsay Rhymes and Matt Rodgers. They couldn't have been more

(33:57):
gracious to say, man, yeah, I mean they both literally said, man,
it would be awesome to have a hit song. I
mean they have. One of them has a hit with
Nate Smith. They both have other hits. You know, neither
one of them I've ever had a cut with Morgan
or Luke, So like they were looking forward to that.

(34:17):
They were like, yeah, man, we'd love to have that,
but what happened in that room that day happened with us,
And like, I don't think there could be a bigger
torch bear for the song than you, and they like
mint it and so like that really helped a lot
to know that they were like supportive of this decision,
because I don't know that if I was on the

(34:37):
flip side, it would be hard for me if I
was just songwriter in the in the place. So I
can't say enough good things about those guys.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Also, your boss of the hospital's pretty freaking awesome. I
can't really shake that either. The best it's like I
quit just kidding here. I am, but I can't pick
up a shift Camouflage Cowboy that you know, it's the
full length album. You're on Camouflage now, Yeah, how much
your wardrobe BSEd Camouflage.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
It's a good bit. It's a good bit. It's it's
more of a it's a talking point for me at
this point, Like it was always a kind of something
I know, war but you know, I wrote a song
by myself, the title track for this record, called Camouflage Cowboy.

(35:27):
It's like the first time that I've ever even like that.
I played this song for my wife and she's like,
what is this about. I was like, well, when you
talk about some stuff, and I mean, it's the most
vulnerable I've ever been in a song, Like, you know,
just the struggle of leaving to go on the road
and coming back home and being strong for your family

(35:49):
and you know you're trying to provide for them, and
you know you got to tell them by because you're
doing the right thing by providing for them, but you're
also leaving them at the same time. Like the weight
that that carries of like I feel like I'm doing
the right thing, but I'm also doing the wrong thame
because I'm leaving them. And when you're you know, your
daughter's like crying because you're getting on a bus. It's like,
I mean, that's the part you know, nobody talks about

(36:11):
or tells you about when you sign up for this,
you know. And so that was kind of what I
was writing it when I was writing about this song.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
There's a him at the very last track, one of
the last tracks, like maybe last track, yeah, last track,
traditional Ham. Other than that, when I was looking at
the notes, I think, did you write all but one
of the songs too?

Speaker 1 (36:33):
I didn't write. I always like it when someone.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Who is a really great songwriter takes a couple of
cuts that they didn't write, Like, I feel like that
is so respectful to the songwriting community. Can also understand
when someone goes, I want to write all my own songs.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Oh for sure, both those.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
But I always there's like a little bit of me like,
really appreciate somebody that is a really successful songwriter who
finds a song they like that represents them that they
didn't write.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
And I love this. I'm gonna put it on my Yeah.
I've never I've never truly like cared whether I wrote
my own songs or not. I mean, if I think
if I say something that I want to say good enough,
then I'll record it. But if something, if somebody else
wrote a song said it better than I could say it,
I have no problem doing that.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
One of these songs speak for you as good as
you could have spoken for yourself once that you didn't write.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Oh yeah, look don't live around here. I mean, that's
just something I would like say. I remember, like growing up,
my mom was like if she ever heard me, like
say something about being lucky, She's like, son, we're not lucky,
we're blessed. And I was like true. And when I
heard the song, I was like I could just hear
my mom like just saying that, and so it was

(37:48):
you know, that was something that I was like, man, dad,
gum it. It's one of those ideas I wish I
had to come up with.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
You know, if I watch a comedian it's really good
and I'm like, oh my god, I felt that it's
just not how to say it like that right.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
One of the but I can't, I think, is I
can't steal their joke.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I'd love to, but it's like yeah, It's like sometimes
somebody says something that you've been thinking that you just
haven't been able to formulate in the.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Exact and it's like, oh, that's it. That's super cool.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Again, so much respect for a songwriter that goes that
song speaks for me. I don't know, it doesn't need
to be a song written by me. Yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
With your record? Now, Mike, where is this? Where's your song?
You know where it is? Now? Is it? Is it
on the chart? I mean it's like it's new, brand new.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's like seventy so but like how many
how many weeks has it officially been? Isn't even being
really worked yet? And I'm not in the music part
of this world, so I'd have to be told. I
would like, how are they feeling about it on that side?

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Well, I mean it's just everything's slow, is you know
what I'm being told? You know, once we get through summer,
you know, yeah, I do know that, Like there are
some places that it's researching well already, So like I
feel like once it gets to the place where everybody
starts for searching it, that's at least this is what
I'm being told.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
What do you mean to do because I think it's
a great song. The problem that I get into there
gets to be a point. And I don't really have
any rules. I don't program music, but sometimes I just
like a song and'll be like, I'm just gonna play
it for a while, and I've had some decent success.
But the where the issue for me gets when someone
gets up to about forty thirty if I play it

(39:22):
like on my radio show. And I haven't been in
the music world for a bit, but I was like
music director years ago, and like, I understand how the
crap works, and trust me, it's a crap, not music.
Just have the system, right, Yeah, If I play the song,
it freaking spikes the crap out of it, and the
next week if it doesn't meet that spike, everyone's like,

(39:44):
oh god, the arrows down. So it puts me in
this precarious situation sometimes because there are things that I
really like and like to support, which is why I'm
glad you're here, because I like the song a lots
and I'm happy I like play it a little bit,
but I never want to get to the point where
it's like arrow up, arrow down.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
I don't know, what do you mean? To do you listen, dude,
the fact that you're like cognizant of this and like
and know that, like what that means for us, even
when you do like a song, but you're still like, yeah,
but I love this and I won't I don't want
to hurt anyone percent. Bye.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And that's like being a supporter because at times with
the I will use the words and rely true the
power that I have.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Occasionally that can happen. Yeah right, yeah, So like what
do you want because they're not you're really going to
look at arrow is at seventy? Right?

Speaker 4 (40:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Right? Yeah, so I would like to play it a
little bit? Would you like me to play it a
little bit? Yeah? Okay, I mean yeah. And I think
the reason that I say that is because I just
want people to hear it.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Okay, that's because I think if people hear it, I
think people should hear it too.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
But I never want to be like, oh, I guess
so you screwed today. I'm like, dude, that wouldn't you
wouldn't that would I would never think that. And it's
also not thirties, And when it gets there.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
It gets to be different, right because then everyone's looking
at arrows on charts, and if it's not trending upward,
then people are looking for reasons to bail out of it.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
To have your parents got to come watch you play
with Luke on the stadium. Yeah they've they've seen me
a few times in a state, like in this old
Stadium tour. Yeah, they came to Jacksonville, I think this year.
But yeah, I mean, I mean, I can't say enough

(41:31):
about them. I mean, if I play at the grand
Ole operatly, no matter what's going on, they are there.
They haven't missed and like growing up, they didn't miss
a single show. And I think the hard part for
them was like when they got to where they couldn't
go to every show. I don't think that like kind
of like bothered them a little bit. So anytime I
play the grand Ole Oppery, they have not missed a
single one of those. Even when I'm like like, y'all

(41:52):
got stuff going on, you know what I mean, Like, uh,
me and my wife we have a newborn month old
baby at home, and came up for that. And then
the very next Saturday, I was playing at the ground
Operay and they came back up really and I was like, dang,
drive it. Yeah, that's that's labor.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I mean, uh so, I got a couple of thoughts.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
One, let's just let's put it in the National count down,
like made a note already, Okay, so we're gonna love that. Yeah,
it'd be a big That's awesome, man. A bunch of
countries do that too, like not America, other countries. I
mean obviously other countries, but you know what I mean. Secondly,

(42:35):
when you have your first artist number one, how beautiful
would it be to play in that Arby's parking lot?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Oh dude? As for as for social media content, like
it's the greatest. That would be awesome because and it's
not even so much about everybody from Nashville. In fact,
the Arby's is in the parking lot of the kmart
where I met round Clasco too. Same like little Spot
fact could probably left out of the media. I clipped there,
but so but but still, I like, how cool would

(43:00):
that be? And you tell this, you know, it's like
it was on American Idol for a bunch.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Of years, and you know we do these packages or
it's like this person, it's like they used to come
and watch play and then you play to like.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Your home would be legit. It would be awesome.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Man, like social media legit content. You can't start thinking
about it yet because you you'll jinx it. I gotta
do it on a flatbed trailer though?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Thing? Did he play a flatbed trailer? See?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I would watch that content, and I don't watch a
lot of content.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
The Bobby Cast will be right back.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
M hm, this is the Bobby Cast my TikTok?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
What do you you're on TikTok? I mean I know
you're on it, but I mean do you do you
spend time on it? Like watching it?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Do what pops up in your algorithm? Oh? Like probably
video game stuff? What do you call duty okay? Or Nascar?
I'm a massive Nascar fann.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Is nineties wrestling Wow, a bunch of I like to
collect baseball cards, basketball cards, that's what That's what we
did yesterday.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
We flew to Baltimore for a baseball card event. Let's
see what's that? That's awesome?

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Well was it did just let you down? It wasn't
what you were hoping it would be, or you didn't
get what you may have gone to get a little
bit of all that, like a prize possession you thought
might be there, and it just wasn't there. There was
no possession I was looking for. Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I'm going to keep it real with you here. I
like talking with you, by the way, which is not
often the case. It's not that I don't like talking
to people, but there's some people I'm just like, Oh,
this is cool. I'm having a good time hanging out.
So yeah, I actually don't mind telling a couple.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Of these stories. I bought a box of cards, like
a big box of cards.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Now my story grew very poor, had no money. Now
I have money, and it's weird and awesome, and so
I opened it up and it's amazing. We're going with
I got a John F. Kennedy autograph in there, and
it's like big, massive players and old players signed it
is really cool box cards and there's an invitation on it,

(45:11):
like the Willie Wonka Golden Ticket. It was really a
golden ticket and a thing. So I'm like, I says,
you come to this party. We're not gonna tell you
when or where it is. And so I'm just like
waiting for an email or something there say email of
this at top. So I email it and then like
a month later I get an email going, Okay, you
are coming to this party.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
It's in Baltimore, it's on this day. It's at Camden Yards.
Be here. It's just kind of like or not, but
be there. So I'm like, it's gonna be awesome. You're
gonna meet cal Riveken, the whole thing. Meet him. I'm like,
make out with him whatever and so, and I'm pumped.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And my best friend is Eddie, who's on my radio show,
and we weren't a little comedy duo together to play music,
and I don't want to go by myself. But there's
no plus one. It's a it's a one. It's like
it's like welly wonka. It's like you get one ticket.
So I get on eBay and I buy I find
a ticket, not cheap, find ticket, and I'm like, Eddie,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
So we flew right for the show.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
We flew up to Baltimore and we go and they're
like they're not telling you where it is, and all
they finally get email. It's like those celebrity weddings were
like they don't tell you where they're getting married until
everybody gets to a like a central location. Yeah, and
so they're like it's this place, going this entrance at
Camden Yards, and like, I'm so excited, and in the

(46:35):
email it's like, must wear dress shoes, can't wear tennis shoes.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Well, we didn't pack anything.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
We're literally in tennis shoes and like it said, we're
button up, so we didn't and but we're another wrong shoes.
So now we're having a debate going to Marshalls to
buy some shoes just to get into this thing.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
We're like, screwt, We're not doing it.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
We go Luckily we didn't buy shoes because there're a
few people in tennis shoes. We go up to this
room and there's no air conditioning. There's like they only
had like a one hundred of these boxes anyway, and
it's like a bunch of us eating finger roll chips
of hoys and nowhere. Condition waited for an hour to
get put into the main room. And I'm like this
Willy Walker sucks the elevator.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, like what does she? Michael Mike like purple, how
does she the grape? The blueber? Yeah, something like give
me something to do like that. Where's the Chocolate River, Yes, yeah,
chocolate River.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
And so finally they let us in and we go
sit at these tables and they and they give us
the food and we're eating and then they bring out
and I thought it was going to be like Jeter
or insert any super famous cal Ripken was one because
we went to Baltimore and listen, athlete Rushman and a gun
her Henters and are massive stars of the last three years.
But I really thought it was. And then they started

(47:45):
just going, all right, who wants to ask some questions?
So they put her food down whatever, and I'm like,
I don't really want to. They're like kids, but the
great baseball players. But it's crazy as we get older,
they stay the same. No, they're like twenty four, twenty
six years old, and so I only have a question
for them.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
I'm all good on a question.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
So I'm eating my meat and because I got beef,
and so they're like and so I'm like, screw it,
I'm gonna ask a question because ed Eddie's just like,
ask a question, be funny and we'll record it for
the show. And so they both were in the All
Star Game this past like two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I played in the Celebrity All Star Game. I won
the MVP of the game.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
In the celebrity game, and I was gonna be like,
as a fellow All Star and ask him a question,
but be totally serious, to be a stupid because I
was gonna be like, did you get to see my tape?
You know from I played two days before? You probably
saw all the tape. It never even came to me
for a question.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
So we left. That was it. That was it. Tell
me you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I should write a song about that. I should call
it Baltimore Blues. Ooh, Baltimore or less Baltimore but less, Yeah,
baltless Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Balton more or less. Yeah, I didn't Baltimore, but I
don't know. I suck anyway. That's what I did yesterday.
And so came back here.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Almost canceled this because I was so sad, but then
I'm glad you then it it was like Drue's a
good guy, and I was like, all right, that's cool,
that's cool. I'll do it then, But yeah, no, I like,
so my algorithms a lot of baseball card stuff. But
I collecked the cards as a kid then never really
collected again, oh until like the last few years. And
now I just I get obsessed with it. Everything if
I get into anything, I have an obsession with it.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Do you have that tendency at all? Oh? Yeah, If
I commit to something, I'm like way in, like more
than I should be, Like you're in. Like in twenty twenty,
I bought like a NASCAR racing simulator and got like
way into that. Can you compete online? Yeah? Yeah, that's
cool and it's awesome because it's like legit competition. Does

(49:51):
Caine have one of those? Uh think so you he
was talking about like he hurt his hand or something?
Was it Caine? Mike was telling me, I think one
remembers so and he was saying, like you get in
it and it's a it's legit. This is way more legitimate.
But you get do you get tired driving it? Or
is it? Like I would never commit to like probably

(50:12):
those really long races. I mean you can do. I'm
more like a maybe a fifty lapper kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Like I think if you make a really bad crash
and ship like break your leg, like you should really
commit like it would I.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Mean the wheel is like the feedback in the wheel
is like strong enough it could like take your risk.
Could you be a race car driver? I've been told
by some race car drivers that I would be all right,
that's cool is that movie? I don't know that I
have the balls to do that though, Like like on
the thing, it's.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Like fine, like the where you have to make it's like, okay,
if we gotta go, we're gonna take the risk and go.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Right, because I mean, like on the game is there's
there's no punishment for wrecking, which is why they should
like break your legs exactly, like to really make it count.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
At fire to it.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you driven a car? I have
driven a race car. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it was good.
I think I did like one hundred and sixty seven
hours hard. Where did you do that? Atlanta Motor Speedway.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
There's a track here, And I went out and drove
a long time ago Borchette's car.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I don't even why.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I don't even like driving car. I don't even drive
in my car. And he's like, do you want to drive?
And he put the suit on me, and I got
a thing and I was flying. I was like, how
fast was I going? He was like sixty two?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
But it just it was just hard to drive, like
it was physically hard to drive. I thought, I was flying.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I don't think I was even breaking the speed less
when I was driving the thing.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, that's cool. You have favorite driver. I really don't.
I have drivers I don't like.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
We've had some come in on the show, and I
don't know much about Nascar. I'm a massive sports guy
and we do a sports a couple of different sports shows,
but I don't know much about driving. Do you want
to save the drivers you don't like because it doesn't
mean you don't like them as a person, but you
don't like who they are publicly.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Right, You don't have to, don't. Yeah, I don't. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I was doing his show once and I wish I
knew that. Will you look up to Chris Hart show
that I did or Kevin Hart show?

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Excuse me?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
And there was a so I did a show and
Kevin Kevin Hart was hosting it, and there was a
race car driver I don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I didn't know who he was.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
And we're all on zooms in different places, like a
trivia game. I think it was on Peacock or something.
I didn't know who the guy was, and I didn't
say I didn't know. I'm just so stupid with race
car drivers and the camera comes on and I'm like
just me. I'm like, god, d you got a huge house, Like,
what in the world do you do for a living?

(52:38):
I gotta say that, right, And he's got He doesn't
know if I'm kidding or not, so he doesn't know
to be insulted or not. That's great, And I'm about
to find out who it is. If you, yeah, let
me know, Mike, whenever you writ let you, I could
guess who.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Was go out on the name of the show. I'm
trying to find whose house it was because he wasn't
on the show with you.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Right, he was current, right, we were competing against each other.
And here's how I knew, because I didn't know if
we were competing against other notables.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
I'm not saying famous. I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I'm not famous. I'm like fractionally known. You have it, Okay,
don't say it, yeah, don't say yet. How I knew
he was somebody? His wife sat down and she was
way hotter than him, and I was like, oh, big,
hell is somebody like I knew he was somebody, Like
who do you think it was?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
It didn't have the greatest person. I don't know him?
Was it Denny Hamlin. No, but when, but when I would?
I don't think I wanted to be his friend. After
doing the show with him, I don't wait to know
who this was now.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Again this was this is his public He definitely could
be awesome behind the scenes and we were competing against
each other.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
But I remember going, I don't think I want to
be his friend.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Any other guesses you don't have to guess because it'll
put you in the spot if you guess, and it's
like somebody you don't like, you can say.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
No, I want to know, and then I want to react.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
Okay, go ahead, he's one of them, ye should That
guy and I didn't hit it off very well, but
again we were on computers and it just because he's.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Kind of he's like the hit he's like the one
of the heels of the sport so and definitely owns it.
I just mentioned d yes, if he's a if he's
a hill, some of that hill stuff could be on
purpose in market that's so funny. Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I remember I thought I was like, this guy, what
in the world do is he because you know, he
just wearing normal clothes and a button up and his
shirt he got like his hair's combed, and I'm like, dang,
you got columns because you can see the columns right
in my mouth. I'm just like, you're making some money
over there.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Whatever did you do? And he I did.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
I thought maybe he thought I knew who he was,
and I probably should have because he's way more known
than I am. But I was just making a like,
sayd some stuff, and that's what it was. And we
had to beat I beat him. Yeah, yeah, it was
a tribut killed him. Oh, I would be terrible. We've
had some nice guys come in though to the show.
I don't know any of their names. Yeah, Mike, you.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Know the drivers have come in. Joey Logano.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Joey Logano, I don't know if he's mean or not.
You don't like him. He was super nice to me, really,
because I have no It would be like if you know,
Diamond Dallas Page or Roman Reigns or one of the
wrestlers came in without knowing what their gimmick is.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Joey Logano came in. It was super cool, and I
was like, oh, wonder what people don't like him? And
said my friends told me, Yeah, yeah, a lot of
it was his style, his his uh he's like another
Hill of the sport. Yeah yeah, yeah, which I like,
I'm all four, yeah, you need him, you need but
you don't have to like him, right, I just like
rooting for the guy who they don't like.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Give me another one. Ryan Blaney, Yeah he was.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
He was like chill, yeah, great dude. He was like eleven,
yeah right, Rosney very young. Yeah. He was like, I
got armpit hair today and we were like, what that's it? Yeah? Yeah,
I don't know, but those guys are They're athletes, they
are dude, They're work at the the way they have
to work out, and they're it's insane. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I never really thought that until I got in the
car went sixty two once and I was like, these
guys are awesome. Camouflage cowboy is out. Love to leave
and I'm gonna play it a little bit, but I'm
not gonna play it a whole lot. I'm not gonna
put it. I'm not gonna put it to number one,
and then I'm gonna sit off of it a little bit.
Because another cool thing that happens to is I don't know,

(56:26):
I think we're on like two hundred and fifty stations
and we're we have a nice little footprint as well
where people will pay attention sometimes and maybe it helps
too with people just going oh yeah, because sometimes it's
just about getting stuff in front of people and they
don't even know they like it yet.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
And that's that's why my answer to can you play it?
Is yes, I just want people to hear it, and
if it's ever like Bobby chill out, let me know,
I wouldn't tell you that because I'm gonna cover it
and put it out myself my own too.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Please do I really enjoyed spending time with you, Drew,
you too, man. You guys can follow Drew on Instagram.
Mentioned it before Drew even came in, But it's Drew
Parker plays Drew Parker. Being such a common name, you
couldn't just get Drew Parker. Oh, I couldn't have.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
You tried to get it. And the guy that has
it is like he always like comments on my stuff,
and I think that maybe a long time controlling. That's hilarious.
A long time ago. I tried to like get it
from him. I think he's actually a fan.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
That's Kyle Busch, Like, yeah, yes, he's kind of was
in trouble for no reason.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Uh, if he's a fan, how many followers do you have?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
No, it'd be really cool if he's a fan, because
you could give him a VIP experience and then trade
it out for him. I don't think he's I don't
think he's willing to do it. Uh, Drew Parker music
dot com and then the same mistiktok. And the thing
is with any of the social media platforms, now you
must have the same name everywhere, even if Drew Parker existed.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah, I wouldn't go do it.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I know I felt the same way because I could
have got Bobby Bones and a couple but the people
who wants to name those of Bobby Bones.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
It's a stupid name.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
But there were a couple of people that were using it,
and so I had to be mister Bobby Bones so
universally and mister Bobby But I feel so like adult
mister acknowledge my misterness where I wish it were just
like at Bobby Bones at Drew Parker plays. And I'm
looking forward to seeing the success of the song. I

(58:16):
love the story. I have two stories that I loved,
and then we'll end on this. I love the story
of you're writing this song and kind of the emotional
and mental anguish that you had to go through because
you believed in it so much, you had to take
a step back to hopefully take four forward. And sometimes,
and a lot of times, that's really the hardest part

(58:37):
about what anyone has to do, because again, you get
to just made your money and going this.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
This life is full of the music. Life is full
of crazy decisions that you gotta make, and like weighing
what you're going to do, and.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Then I love that you said I'm gonna have a
number one and I'm gonna quit the next day, and
your boss is awesome, and then you got to play
in the Army's parking line when it goes on.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yep. Yeah, uh, good to see you, Drew, you too,
males as having me.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
We decided to put this at the end of the
podcast because we get into sports pretty heavily. This actually
happened earlier in and Mike and I had to talk
after and we were like, if people don't like sports
and they just love country music, they're gonna be kind
of bored by this part. But I also think this
is why Drew and I kind of hit it off
so quick. Yeah, because we're both big sports guys. So
if you didn't want to hear that, you can listen
to it. Now here is Drew Parker and I just

(59:25):
talk in sports.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Did you think you would be a ballplayer? I mean
it was a as a kid. Yeah. I wanted to
what was the age where you realized you weren't going
to be a ball player? Senior year of high school?

Speaker 2 (59:36):
I asked, because you're I look at you and think
former athlete. Oh thanks, You're welcome to the compliment. Yeah,
And because there are guys like you that are annoying
to me because you're like really good at what you
do and you used to be good athletes.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
So it's like I just.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Don't like that because I wasn't really either. It was
a fine athlete and really wasn't good at what I
was doing then, but like you come across as an
Athlete's why I was asking, like the sports stuff. Do
you ever get out and just go like hnny balls?

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Um? Not really? I mean I like, I love to
play golf, now do you need to compete? Oh? Yeah, man,
me too? You play pickball? Do you ever play pickball? No?
I never have? You probably pretty good. I mean i'd
whoop be it, but only because I've been paying a while.
But then you catch up, right, Yeah, I mean I'll definitely.
That's something that I've watched and been like, I think

(01:00:23):
I could do that. Yeah, like basketball is too that's
too crazy for me. Basketball. I'll listen to this. Do
you ever get you get hurt? Howll do you? I'm
thirty two, You're not there yet? Do I get? Well?
You're not there yet. It doesn't matter what you said.
You sleep in the shower this morning. My back's hurting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
You're you're inching on being in that level. About thirty
six is when things start to just you don't need
to do much to injure it, but then it doesn't
heal back the same. You got about three or four
really good years in you. Yeah, like about thirty six
thirty sevens when I just didn't heal anymore and I
just signed up for like a two day thirty and
up University of Arkansas basketball like camp where you go

(01:01:06):
two days with like coach col Well, I don't eve
play basketball, but I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Let's do it. Like it's just it's just stupid stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Or I know I'm gonna come back, and so you
feel like you're gonna have to prepare for that, like
go get in shape for that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Oh yeah, I have more feel I will dedicate my
life to it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Yeah, Like I went and played in the Major League Baseball,
like the celebrity All Star Game this year, and so
I joined a softball league just so I could get
ready for the one game.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
That's awesome. And you know what, you know what happened
to your boy? You want MVP at the whole game.
Let's go, dude. That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Like three weeks ago, I dedicated to my my softball team. See,
but now everything still hurts and it's been like three weeks. Yeah,
so you look like an athlete. You're from the South.
I figured you played some ball. Were you a big
Braves fan?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Massive? Yeah? I was like, who were your guys? I mean,
I'm a like Chipper Jones, Chippery Greg Maddox, Andrew Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I was a big Cups fan. I'm a little older
than you, Suvemember when he played for the Cubs. Right,
did you follow baseball religiously?

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I do? Yeah. I went to sid Yeah, I went
to Houston on the Braves won the World Series A.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Couple years ago, I went to I'm a big Cubs fan.
We won the World Series of Cleveland. I went and
watch us play Cleveland game too, and lost. Its terrible.
We'll just geek out on sports for a second because
I have a lot of stuff. Talk to you about music, Leyeah,
like I like it when somebody likes to talk about
things I like talk about right, and mostly it's like
write a song.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Number one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Went to watch the Cubs. Cubs famial whole life. We sucked.
At least you guys went to like a lot of
nlcs and a lot even when you were not winning
World Series.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Oh for sure. Yeah, at least you were close. We
sucked my whole life.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yeah, so we go to Cleveland and we lose, and
it's brutal. This is twenty sixteen. When'd you move here?
Twenty fifteen? Okay, I remember this, Yeah, I remember seeing you.
I remember like that guy's been here one year. I
said that about you when I saw you on the street.
Think he's been one one year. The CMA's were happening
that year, and it was the first time I'd ever
been in Vine. I did to be on the show
as a presenter. I just beg for anybody to give
me a shot on television. I'd been doing a lot

(01:03:05):
of local stuff and like cable stuff and you'll appreciate
this being a baseball fan. And the CMAS finally said, hey,
why don't you come present on the CMAS. And I'm like,
let's go. Finally somebody accepts me for what I really am.
A true talent. That's what I remember, the true talent
that I am. And it was Game seven, Cubs in

(01:03:26):
Indians same night I turned down the CMAS. I was like,
I'm not, I can't. I'm awaited my whole life. So
I did not go to the CMAS. It was my
first time my national television did not And so that
game was Game seven, it went to extra innings, it
rained away. Thank god the Cubs won or would have

(01:03:46):
been one of the worst decisions in my life. Yeah,
it was a tough one, but there was no way
I was going to miss.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
You guys just want another one recently for you, like three.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Years ago, two years ago, Yeah, twenty twenty one, you went.
That's when I went, Yeah, what did you go to? Set?
Did you go to? The final game? Was the last
game we wanted in Houston. I mean, it was every
childhood dream that I've I mean just culminated right there
in Houston, Texas. Do you meet you met those guys?
Have you ever met Chippert? I've never met Chipper. I've

(01:04:18):
met one Brave in my life or no too, Ryan
Klesko back in the day, he lived in Covington. Awesome,
he lived in Covington. And so I've seen him in
the Kmart parking lot. So you met him in the
parking lot, not even like any games, No, it was
like Kmart parking lot in Covington. Did you stop him? Yeah,
you get an autographing I did somewhere. Big guy, Yeah, really

(01:04:40):
big guy. And then there's a few of the current
players I have met and you just said one. You
said a few, Well, I just I've met aj Mintor
he's a pitcher. Yeah, but you know a few of
the other ones. Yeah. Yeah, was in Baltimore yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
And Adley Rushman and Gunner Henderson were doing anything and
they're ballers now, And I thought I was gonna be
cal Ripkin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
It's not. I know, days are going.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
We flew up there and thought cal Ripkin was gonna
be speaking, and it's cool. Those two guys are legit
ball players now right, But I thought I was gonna
be cal ripkin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
I was a little disappointing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
So other than that, I'm done talking about sports. But
I'm happy to know if you like sports.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
I do. I love sports. How good a golfer? Are
you terrible? I'm serious? What do you consider terrible? Then?
Can you break ninety? Yeah? Okay, you're right, you're good.
You're pretty goading. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Some of these guys here annoyt because they played to
play a lot, and they play a lot on the road.
Oh yeah, some of them even like Luke, you know,
take somebody out with him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Uh. I mean I've gotten better
if if I if I were able to play more often, yeah,
you know, I think I could get better. I mean
I have shot like in the low eighties and high
seventies like once. You've broken eighty one time, like one time,
and I don't even know ever broke And I've played

(01:06:00):
longer than you. Yeaha keep rubbing it in, firshould be
cluscal at Kmart. Now you broke eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
God, dang dude, thanks for listening to a Bobby cast production.