On this week's episode of the BobbyCast, one of the most legendary producers of all-time, T-Bone Burnett, sits down with Bobby. T-Bone talked about turning Jeff Bridges into a country singer, working with one of Bobby's favorite bands of all-time - The Counting Crows - and why he doesn't like biopics. Plus, Bobby sits down with Eddie and some other guys to go through this year's finalists for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to decide who will get his vote!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
As soon as I heard it, I thought, oh, I
know exactly where this fits. Adam Duritz was amazing singer
and also really really interesting writer, very complicated cat.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Episode five oh one. We will in a few minutes
make my votes for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
which I am lucky they haven't kicked me out, not
because I'm doing anything wrong or don't know music, because
I feel like I do, but because every year we
sit in here and pick my votes. So we got
a panel of friends. We're gonna go through everybody that's nominated,
and I will make my votes dependent on what we select.
(00:43):
That could get me kicked out, but I hope it doesn't.
Starting us off though, Like really one of the greatest
producers ever, t Bone Burnett. He's in because Ringo's country
album came out called Look Up. You can hear the
episode of The Ringo Star if you back. He wrote
nine out of the eleven songs. What was kind of
(01:03):
fun was whenever Ringo was in the chair for half
an hour whatever that was, t Bone was sitting right
over to the side watching and then flip flopped for
a bit, and then eventually Ringo had to go and
he was like, I go Teva and then Ringo left.
But so that's the reason that he's doing some press.
But what was really cool is talking about some of
the other stuff that he did. If you want to
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go watch T bone Burnette live his first concert tour
nearly twenty years, go to t bone Burnette dot com.
He's gonna be in Pennsylvania, New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut,
New York. Apparently he lives right down the road for me,
which I had no idea. It's his first solo album
called The Other Side that's out now from T bon
Burnette again, his first tourn twenty years, first solo album
in twenty years. I mean, where do you start? He
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toured with Bob Dylan. He produced Oh Brother, Where Art Thal?
The soundtrack. He revived Johnny Cash's career. He worked on
Walk the Line, and he was the executive music producer,
And so we had to kind of coach and teach
from what I read and what we talked about Jaquin
Phoenix and Reese Weatherspoon how to be Johnny Cash and
June Carter, which I think is super cool. He basically
(02:09):
created the Americana sound. He mentions Jeff Bridges, we go
back into it. He helped Jeff Bridges become a country
singer because he did crazy Heart, the music for Crazy Heart,
so we did that. Super private guy, which is why
it was really neat for him to come over to
the house. I mean, he was a DJ when they
were DJs. I mean there's still the terms weird now.
(02:31):
A DJ in general to me is somebody at a
club that kind of thing, and even now on the radio,
everything's digital and people that just play music really don't
get they don't pick it. You're not like physically putting in.
That's weird. Yeah, But he was an original DJ, like
back in the day in Fort Worth, Texas, playing rock
and blues records and what I love the most Counting Cross.
(02:57):
That's right. He produced August and everything after, which is
maybe it depends what day of the week you asked me.
My favorite album ever, it's that I love Nirvana Unplugged,
although that's kind of cheating because it's got Nirvana songs
and it's them playing on acoustic and it's got David
(03:19):
Bowie and meat Puppet songs on it. But that's like
my favorite album. Obviously, I'm gonna put John Mayer Continuum
up there. I'm gonna put Casey Musgraves, same trailer, different park,
but I think August and everything after that's probably it.
Now Beast Boys Licensed to Ill. That's my top five,
So it just depends what day it is. Correct not
top five like that would get a Lifetime Achievement award
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because Letter Cry is still one of my favorite songs
to sing along too of this day, so that has
been one of my top ten. I would compare it
to my friend Andy Roddick. He was number one in
the world for a couple of years, he won a major,
but he was top ten for like fifteen years. He
never left top ten, So he's one of the greatest
tennis players ever. Not because he was number one for
(04:04):
like Federer was for five, seven eight, djoke of it
all those guys. He was number one for a couple
of years, won a major, but he say top ten
for a decade. That's what correct rearview is to me,
the Andy Roddick of music. But yeah, how would I
like to have just talked counting Goes for an hour
if I'm being honest, and then I got we talked wallflowers,
(04:25):
and then I'm like, hey, you know. And Adam Durris
did the background vocals on sixth Avenue Heartache. Yeah, I
wasn't herd episode five oh one, well do rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. But first, one of the greats,
t Bone Burnett, we just had Ringo here. He told
a story of you pulling songs out of your pocket. Literally,
he claimed you had songs in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Hey, oh, I do I have a pocket full right now?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And trying are you kidding or no?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I don't know if you know I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, I literally didn't know if you're because I thought
he was kidding at first, but then he was like, no,
literally he had songs in his pocket. Did you know
you were going to run into Ringo? Or do you
always keeps? Well?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
No, he I went out. He said, come out and
let's talk about doing an EP?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And so he said do you have any other songs?
And so I was writing and I just kept writing
because I didn't know if he would like any of them,
you know, And then we started listening to him to them,
and he liked all of them, and he said, well,
let's make an album, and so I said, okay, you know,
and it did. It was really sweet to him to
(05:27):
say these songs were written by somebody who knows him,
because I do. I know him. I don't know him
personally as well, but I know him aesthetically and artistically
really really well. I understand where where he's coming from. Well,
you know you can when we're doing when we're doing
(05:47):
these movies, the first thing we do is do a
history of the character. Like the first song when we
did Crazy Heart, Jeff was playing a singer called bad Blake,
and so we did what was the We had to
come up with a history for him, and it was
what was the first song you ever heard? What was
the worst first record you ever bought? What was the
(06:09):
first song you ever wrote? Who? You know, what singers
influenced you? What record? You just put a whole history together. Well,
you know, Ringo had a whole history that I could
refer to. And also I was you know, I was
in nineteen sixty four when the Beatles came out. I
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was sixteen, so I was in the perfect place to
receive that gift that they poured out to all of us.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And how long until it became a real project?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
This one?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, you know it kind.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Of was for me the whole. As soon as he said,
write a song for me, I wrote that song that
he whistles on called come Back When You Go Away,
because I wanted to write him a gene Autry song.
And as soon as I soon, because I knew well,
first of all, Ringo's Star sounds like uh, you know,
the sheriff of Tombstone, Arizona or something. It was a
(07:06):
cowboy name in the first place. And I also knew
the Lightning Hopkins' story that he told, and and I
knew I just knew where he was coming from. You know,
all all the Beatles things he did, with the exception
of good Night probably or little help from my friends,
even that's a country so like Photograph is a very
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that's a song he and George Harrison wrote, It's still
very much like a country rock song today. In fact,
if the Beatles came out today, they would be considered
a roots rock band.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I agree, especially the early you know, the early version
before the seventies, and they very much would be that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, they were the early you know, early on they
were a cover band, and they were covering Chuck Berry
and Buddy Holly and Jene Vincent and Eddie Cochran, Little Richard,
all the same stuff we were playing in Tech in
nineteen sixty four sixty five.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Did you have to give him or what guidance did
he ask for either way when doing this record, because
again it feels so natural.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
He didn't ask for any and I didn't offer any either.
I did he once he said he liked the songs.
Then I came back and added a few pieces. Mostly
they were cut by Daniel Tashin. Dennis Crouch and I
played the tracks. Dennis Crouch is really at the current
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in the current time. He's the world's greatest string bass players,
rockabilly slap bass player, but he plays great jazz. He
plays jump blues, he plays bebop, he plays everything. Plays
with Diana Crawl, and he plays with Robert Plant and
Alison Krause. So we cut the tracks, and then I
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went out and sat with Ringo for an afternoon and
he recorded for four of the songs on drums, two takes,
just as he said. And that was a thrill for
me because I was sitting we're really a little little
further than we're sitting apart now while he was playing
(09:14):
and just sitting there listening to him play live was thrilling. Really,
all those symbols on the record are the symbols from
the from the Beatles records, and he hasn't cleaned them
in fifty years or sixty years whatever. They are, so
the same symbols, and you know, I recognize the sound
of the symbols immediately. And then and then he he
(09:36):
started he was showing me the high hats, I said,
because his approach to the high hat was unique. Nobody's
ever played that sound that way, and it was it
was thrilling. It was a very exciting frequency. And I
realized that the way he played the high hat was
very much a part of the reason the girl screamed,
(10:00):
because it was he was setting off that energy that screamed.
The high hats were screaming, you know, little Richard scream
Paul McCartney screamed. There was that, there was that crazy
energy in it. In fact, I just I was listening.
Uh the Beatles on their first trip over here, played
(10:22):
a show in Washington, d C. In the round, and
I was I was watching a video of that, and
they played everything incredibly fast, you know, they were it
was just all, well, you know, we're going to get you,
and they they got us, you know they did.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Sonically it made sense, which I didn't know if it was.
If I'm being honest, I was like, Okay, well I'm
I'm curious to see what the sounds.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Like, oh this record, this record.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, specifically sonically it made way more sense in the
best way that I then I I don't. I didn't
have an expectation at all.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well that's good, Well I wanted I just wanted to
it thread back directly to Honey, Honey, don't and act
naturally and and even even well like what goes on?
You know, all of these extraordinary country rock you know,
(11:16):
they were the first country rock band, the first country
rock recording was I Don't want to Spoil the party,
and almost all country music since then, certainly all the
country music today goes back to that one recording, you know,
the the way he played the high hat, the way
the will he can too with buck Owens band played
(11:39):
the high hat, a similar feel on the high hat,
and they they buck Owens was considered the rocky year
side of country music at the time.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know, you mentioned Jeff Bridges a second ago, and
when I talk about advice or help, I feel like
you were instrumental in helping him be a country or
at least understanding count music. Do you feel that way, Jeff, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, I think so. I mean when we were putting
Bad Blake together, Jeff has a deep baritone voice, and
so he couldn't sing that kind of twang what they
call twang country sound of Merle Haggard or you know,
or Lefty for Zell, that kind of stuff. But what
he could sing was Don Williams, who's one of my
(12:25):
favorite singers anyway, and he could sing Leonard Cohen type songs.
So we so I sort of showed him into the
world of country music through that. But you know, he
looks a lot like Christofferson in that movie. And he
and Chris we all made a movie together in the
seventies called Heaven's Gate and spent a great deal of
time together. So Jeff had just been into music since
(12:49):
as long as I've known him for fifty years. So
but I was able to lead him into that part
of country music that he you know, I don't think
he really knew Don Williams at the time.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Some pretty iconic movies that you've been responsible for, the
music Walk the line comes to mind, and again, you've
worked with Johnny and then you're working with somebody that's
playing Johnny. Do you put a pressure on yourself for
it to be authentic as possible?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, definitely. I mean I only I don't like biopics myself.
Like I haven't seen the new Dylan biopic.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I haven't seen it either yet because I don't go
to the theater when it streams.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I mean, well, you know the thing about these singing stars,
for these performers, they have a certain charisma that is
uniquely them. And you can see Bob Marley, you can
say that about Ray Charles, certainly Dylan. I think I
actually think Joaquin did a better job evoking Johnny Cash
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than he did as an impression of Johnny Cash. But
what I feel most of the time when I dip
into those biopics is that you know, I missed the original.
I've constantly got the original in my mind and I'm
I'm constantly thinking, uh, that's a great and that's a
(14:10):
great impersonation. But I don't. But I like getting immersed
in film, like have you seen this film? And Noora,
this is a funny thing to talk.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
About, Okay, great movie.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's a great movie. It's I just voted for it.
I'm not supposed to say this, but I voted for
it for everything that it was up for. Because what's about.
It's about a sex worker, a lap dancer in New
York City who falls falls into a relationship with this
Russian Oligark's son who's sixteen or eighteen or something. It's
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it's a wild movie. But it's why did I even
bring this up?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Is a music in the movie that.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No, it's not, it's not that's but that's a movie
that was just just got lost in it, which is
what I which is the great a power of movies
and any going back to the biopics that I'm always
one step removed from them.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Whenever you start to work on Oh brother, we're out there,
did you know that this that that product as you
were doing it? Did it feel special to you or
did it just feel good?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Like?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I don't know, because it ended up both remarkable well
all three?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, I thought. You know, folk music, which I
think of all of this music is folk music. American music,
country music is folk music. Hip hop is folk music.
It's all music that comes up from the street, from
the ground, you know, excuse me, uh, but when you
(15:44):
know when we started, oh, brother Wert, there there had
been folk music had been out of the mainstream for
quite some time. We had all these extraordinary, underappreciated artists,
and we had a George Klooney movie to shine a
light on them. And you know, there were several things
that made it remarkable. One was the Turn of the Millennium.
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And if you, I don't know if you're old enough
to remember back then, but they there was a thing
called the Y two K boy, I thought we were
all dying. Yeah, they were supposed to shut down all
of reality and people. There was a lot of anxiety
going into the Turn of the Millennium, and then you know,
the World Trade Center got hit and there was a
(16:31):
lot of uncertainty. And there was something about hearing that
music that was so woven into American culture, into our
American identity and who we think of ourselves as that
was there was reminding us of that, and so it
took on a whole other life of its own that
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none of us had any idea about at the time.
But certainly I thought, I mean it didn't I had
a few years earlier made a record by the Wallflowers
that's called Bringing Down, called One head.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Light, bringing Down the Horse, the whole record. I love it, beautiful,
loved it, love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And you know, I just read that one Headlight is
the most played radio song of the nineties. Really yeah,
but uh, and I'd made an album by Counting Crows,
and both of those records sounded very much like the
old Brother Where art that record?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Did you do? August? And everything after?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
My favorite record of all time?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Oh really, yeah, I love that record of all time.
It's a beautiful record.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And I can see the like the common thread yeah
in those Yeah, and the Folk and all three of them.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, if you if you look at that, if you
look at the Counting Crows, Wallflowers and Oh Brother were
there's it's a continuum, it's a there's a line between them,
and and so you know, those records had sold ten
million records or something. So I, you know, I thought
there was every good chance that this could sell too,
(18:03):
because we had because we had a movie. You know,
it was it was it was music that wasn't getting
played on the radio. But the movie theater becomes a
pretty good radio station.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know. Yeah, And exposes a lot of people to
something they wouldn't have gotten anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, and you hear it through good speakers.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You know, and you trust George Cloney because he's just
good looking and he's like the star that you feel like,
you know, like all of that. You know. When Ringo
was talking earlier about opening for Roy Orbison, I was
thinking about you because you played with Roy, right, I.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Did, and I produced Roy and I did the first
one of these. We just did a group show for
Ringo at the Ryman for this new record. The first
one of those I did was with Orbison call. It
was called A Black and White Night in probably nineteen
ninety and it was a group show with Elvis and
Costello and Tom Waite and Bruce Springsteen and Jackson Brown
(19:02):
and Jennifer Warrence and Bonnie Raid and Katie Lang in
the TCB band Elvis Presley's rhythm section.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
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Speaker 2 (19:26):
Whenever you go through that your catalog of artists that
you've worked with, written for, produced, who do you think
of When I say who knew exactly who they were
from the very beginning and they were a bit different,
but it ended up being massive, like had their own voice,
but it was a little different, but ended up being
something that just changed music.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well is there. I can't think of a better example
than Orbison. Actually, you know he I'm from fort Worth.
I grew up in Fort Worth. He grew up in
Fort Worth too, and he lived over on the north
side behind the Isis Theater that he called the Izis Theater.
And he uh, he loved Verde Verde. He loved opera,
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and he wrote these arias. He wrote songs that went
from his lowest note to his highest note, so like
in Dreams, for instance, it starts again indy colo glum.
They call this san He also, by the way, sang
so quietly that if you stood ten feet away from
him you couldn't hear him. But it was all this
(20:32):
beautiful tone, this deep, deep tone, And so when you
put a mic in front of him, that he completely
filled the microphone. Microphones are like horns. You can't you
blow them, and they they resonate, and at any rate
he would go from like that Akadney Coler clown to injury,
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you know, all that soft, but it would sound like
he was singing an opera or something on the radio.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's I never thought about dreams like that. There is
such a nuance, you know from how again, how it
starts in a slow to you know dream. There's so
much there, so much small change.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
It's so well, it doesn't the sections don't repeat, it keeps.
It continually transitions from one one mode to another until
he goes from his lowest to his highest notes.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I like it that you wore sunglasses because you couldn't
You couldn't tell where he's looking, and so everybody felt
like they may be getting looked at. Yeah right, That's
what I like about people in sunglasses. You never know
they might just be looking at you.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
To go back to counting crows for one second, How
did you get on that part?
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Like?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Where did that come from? How did you get attached
to that?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
That was just one of those tapes that came through
my door and I put it on and I listened
to it, and as soon as I heard it, I thought, oh,
I know exactly where this fits. It was just one
of those clear moments where the singer Adam Durittz was
amazing singer and also really really interesting rider, very complicated cat.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Whenever you mentioned the Wallflowers, I think of Sixth Avenue
Heartache where durrets does background vocals on that, because you
worked to both of them, were you responsible for that peering?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well, yeah, I guess so, yeah, more or less.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's pretty cool. Like that to me is like, that's
like the coolest thing. Like that was like to hear
Adam Durretz do the background vocals on sixth Avenue Heartache, Yeah,
that's so legit. Were you there when they did that?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I would just want to be inside dryballs right now.
I like to be able to see that. That's super cool.
And I mean the record with Ringos again, it's so good,
and I my expectation was, let me just see. You know,
living here, you kind of second guess everything after a
while because you're going, what's authentic, what's the reason doing it?
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Because Ringo doesn't need to do anything. No, he doesn't
need to do a single thing right, And I just
found it to be Wanner breath fresh air and not
contrived at all. No, it's not contrived and just very natural.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You know the thing about Ringo, he says, I'm in
the band, he's a musician. He's an honest to god musician.
And you can watch him play drums and you can
tell by the way he holds his mouth that he's
a musician, because you just know he's it's he's feeling
it and it's something that he you know. So he
(23:35):
became a massive international star, instant worldwide name recognition, all
of that stuff. But under that, who he actually is.
He's a musician. And you know, I personally love musicians.
I've lived my life among musicians, and I find them
to be well, I find them to be the hope
(23:55):
for the world. Actually, I mean the I if I
may go on for a moment, do you know string
theory when there's a song about this on Ringo's record,
But string theory says that all of the things we
see are the notes of the strings vibrating beneath them.
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So if that's true, and I do, I buy that.
It it resonates with what I know about life. The
music is what we're all made of. We're actually we're
actually a song. We're in a song, and.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
And so we're all vibration.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We are all vibration.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
You'r quantum physics guy.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, actually yes, But but a little. I mean, you know,
I'm a hillbilly guitar player, but so I'm not gonna
put any fine jackets on myself. But you know, I
can't understand this stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I love string theory, like I'll read about that for days.
When you wrap up, its me up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, I love it too, But because I think it's right,
you know, I also I you know that I believe
that if the human race is going to be saved,
that it's the artists who are going to save it.
The religious people aren't. They're obviously completely losing their moorings
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in every religion around the world is going crazy. The
scientists aren't going to do it. They're the ones screwing
everything up right now with their digital with their idea
of the binary universe where you can reduce everything to
plus or minus. The politicians aren't going to do it,
obviously because they're even going crazier than the religious people.
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So like who's who's left. The business people aren't going
to do it. So it's it's if the race is
going to be saved, it's going to be the artists
who do it.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Then I'll go off for a second and just ask
this question that has nothing to do with what other
than what you're talking about, because I find that, even
being a bit of historian country music, but in music
in general, it seems like the most meaningful music comes
from when times are troubled.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Do you feel like we're getting there again, to.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
A time when we're going to have meaningful music.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
To a time where music will be made with an
absolute social purpose.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, you know, I would say it's all made to
a social purpose. But I know what you're I know
the question you're asking. Yeah, I think. Look, the story,
the story of the United States can be told through music, like,
for instance, the song there's a song that's been sung
(26:40):
for one hundred and fifty years or something. The most
recent version of it is Blowing in the Wind by Dylan.
Before that, there was a song called We Shall Overcome,
which is the same song which was written for a
social purpose before that, and that was in the forties.
We Shall overcap Come got written, Blowing in the Wind
(27:02):
was written in the early nineteen sixties. Then there was
a song called No More Auction Block. That's the same
song that was written after soon after the Emancipation Proclamation,
but before that, there was a song called Nearer my
God to Thee that was written in eighteen forty and
it's all the same song. If you how many roads
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must a man walk down? We shall overcome no more
auction block for me, Nearer my God to the They're
all there's this melody, there's this American air that has
been repurposed again and again to pull the country together,
to bring people into harmony with each other. So yeah,
(27:49):
I do. I feel like if it's going to happen,
it's going to be music that does it. And I
do believe that that there are a lot of really
smart young artists who are emerging right now, and we'll
see who comes up with the song, because at the
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end of the day, it's all the song that matters.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Just two more questions. You mentioned you hadn't seen the
Bob Dylan movie yet, which I haven't either, and me
from a distance, like I've read Dylan's books obviously heard
all the music through all the versions. Again, haven't seen
the movie yet, But I also wasn't as close to him.
I didn't play with them like you did. I didn't produce.
So do you look forward to watching something you kind
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of know the story to or you're like, man, if
I watch this, I'm gonna know some of it isn't
exactly accurate.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, I I'm not gonna watch it. I'm pretty sure
I won't see it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Because so you're not gonna watch it?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
No, I probably, I mean I would have no. No,
I mean I love Bob.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And so you don't want to watch it and be like,
well that's not true, like you have your own Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
If I want to watch some something to personally, if
I want to watch something about a musician, I want
the actual musician.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
To be in it or to be a part of it. Yeah,
or which Barbara wasn't right, I mean he didn't. He
wasn't a part of the movie as they were making it.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
No, but no, what I want to actually see the
thing that they're talking about. I don't. I don't need
to have somebody talking head tell me about somebody. I'd
really just see what.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
He does with this album. When did you know you
were done?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Uh? I guess when when Ringo said it sounds good.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
That would be a good time to quit.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, Ringo's like, we're good. Did you cut any other
songs that aren't on the record. They didn't make the record,
you know I did.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
In fact, I've got about five or six more that
we may get into at some point because I kept writing.
I wrote, you know, I took nine out to him,
but there were probably another there're probably another ten in
the works right now. Five of them are finished.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So final, final question. My real name is not Bones.
My name's Bobby, but it's not Bones. My assumption is
your real name's not T Bone? Where did that come from?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's it. That's a neighborhood nickname. You know. I got
it when I was probably five or something or eight.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
When you signed things? Do you sign T Bone?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I signed TB one?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, When did you decide to go with that? As
like your name?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I tried to shake it for decades and couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You know, well, I am a massive fan you. Thank
you such a fundamental part of my life through music,
and so it's a real treat to be able to
spend time with you for that reason. But also the
record's great, Like it really is great, And I didn't
have an expectation of it to be good or bad.
I didn't know, and it really is great.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I appreciate it. I love it too, and I love
Ringo and I love I love that he's gudding this
moment in his third act. It's very well deserved.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, thank you for the time. Everybody check out the album.
That's it awesome.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
The Bobby Cast. We'll be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Let's talk Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. We did
this last year and I did not know if I'd
be brought back in to vote again because we literally
let the panel pick my votes.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
But what was so cool about that was I watched
the whole ceremony and to see Dave Matthews up there,
I'm like, wow, we voted them in.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
That's pretty cool. Well, I only had one vote, so
we voted. We gave him a vote. So I'm back
in it. And so we'll go through the nominees and
so we'll pick five of them. Okay, who we're going
to vote for? So it's me, It's Eddie. It's our
friend who lived in Bakersfield. His voice is out, Hey,
say your.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Name, Hyatts.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
How's it going today? So he's like, should I talk
about I was like, well, you're expert, so you can
talk sparingly when you do your vote. Sure, how about that?
Why's your voice so bad? I just cold weather here
in Nashville this week. Yeah, let's talking. Who's your favorite
artist of all time?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Elton John? Wow? Do you know want to kiss me
on the mouth? I've heard that? Yeah, yeah, it's pretty awesome.
Never never forgot about it. Never washed his lips ever since.
I probably wouldn't either, won't wash them. He got my head.
I went right on off face. Why Elton John?
Speaker 7 (32:25):
You know, I just love the piano, the imagery and
his songs. And I know Bernie Toppin wrote the lyrics,
but just I mean some of the most iconic songs
of all time. Tini to answer Goodbye Yellow Brick Road,
your song? Just something about the way those songs hit
me is love him?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Your favorite artist is, Oh, it's gotta be Pearl Jam, Right,
gotta be Pearl Jam. But what were you thinking though, Well, well,
I've just you know, the older you get, the more
you start realizing that you love a lot of art.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I love Bob Marley, I love Bob Dylan, I love
Jimmy Buffett, but I think Pearl Jam is definitely my favorite.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'm in that same boat where I would go, well,
we just had t bow Burnette. So I'm like, I
love Counting Crows. It's my favorite band of all time. See,
I love them too, I know, so my favorite band
of all time. But then it's like John Mayer is
like my favorite artist. So I've had to pick one
of them, I'd probably still go Counting Crows if it's like,
what do I still listen to the most? Listen to
a lot of John Mayer, but Counting Crows are probably
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my favorite artist if I have to pick one.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
I listened to this is it? This desert life, This
desert Life. Yeah, on the way to work today.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I don't know why. This is one of those things
where like I'm telling an underrated album Fishball in the Front.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
I wake up to a tune in my head every morning.
It's a different tune. I don't know why this happens,
but it happens. And hanging around was in my head
this morning. I'm like, I didn't listen to this album.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I've been hanging around this town on the corner. I
remember going to college. I was in college. I would
go home and listen to that record and play King
or Virginior Baseball on PlayStation at night after I finished work. Yeah,
I listen to that CD and then that was it
and play Knker Vir Junior baseball. God, it's so good, man,
those are the good old days when I was broken,
didn't know.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Dude even like Amy hit the atmosphere like that came on.
I'm like, I haven't heard this song in twenty years.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It's so good. We're gonna go through the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame nominees just for the record one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen nominees. Wow, we're gonna settle on five. Oh gosh,
that's tough. Up first and keep notes on your phone.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Bad Company. Bad Company is nominated for the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. If I say bad Company, what
I think of first is Bad Company till the day
I die. You know that song? Yeah, that's probably the
only one I can think of. I know. I have tons. Yeah,
you'll know more. But you're like like me, I did.
I couldn't assign them without looking at it. Then I
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knew them, So I'll play you some of them. Do
you know anything, Brent before you pull them up?
Speaker 5 (34:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Okay, you will? Bad Company? Yeah, I will survive till
the day I die. Uh, you for sure will know
they don't do cold as I No, it's foreigner. I
think that cold his ice. So you'll know what is
this baby? When I think about you? They sing that song?
Think about I love that song and that song is
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I feel like making? I feel like making. I had
no idea that was a bad company they're in. Yeah, okay,
how about so and you know we did bad company?
Like bad Company jam?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Okay? How about so for Nothing? Is this Ready for Love?
Hold on? Yep?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I heard it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And it picks up a bit. Well, I didn't find it,
but it's like Reddit for love Okay, okay, not a
big one. Okay one. Hey, Rae can come in here
too if he wants. We'll here to the studio just
playing music. We do want to a dang song just
hanging out? Yeah, come in jump on the hot podcast.
No read will surprise you though, He'll be like, yeah,
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I know that one. You'll know this one.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Don't let.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Lots of ups on there. Cover. I don't think I've
ever heard that version, Like, is that is that the
Beatles cover? I know I was singing the Beatles in
I don't know that that's a I don't know that one. Okay,
so there wait again, our knowledge may not always be
tip top. And I didn't tell you guys who the
bands were, so for Like, I can't believe they don't
know this, okay.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
So what we're voters when we're looking at these bands
and listening to the music that we know, like how
cause like I love feel Like Making Love, like I
love that song and Bad Company and they're classic rock,
like this is like the to me, a classic rock
and I would immediately be like, put him in Man's
classic rock. But I really only know two songs.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
So okay, okay, you know more than that, So you
know Ready for Love you kind of knew that, knew
that you knew I Feel Like Making Okay, you probably know.
I mean when you hit Don't Let Me Down, Man
kind of threw me off, Like I guess I don't
really know this man, mm hmm. Shooting Star, Oh yeah,
(37:27):
I know this one. Yeah? Hold on, don't you know?
Don't you know that you are Shooting Star? Read? How
old are here? I am twenty eight years old? Now
(37:48):
this is older than we are too. So did you
ever do you know Bad Company? At all of those songs. Nope, okay,
no chance, Like dad didn't listen to him or anything
on vinyl. No, dude, he was a Beg's and Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Guy run rock and roll fantasy.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Okay, okay, dude, vote there. We're layered in. We're layered
in here. Let's see one more that sounds familiar. This
is called needed somebody. I don't know that one. Okay,
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Bad Company? Do you know that one? So read You're
not gonna do anything. We're just gonna test now if
you know the artist at all, I'm gonna fail, but
I love it. So okay, there you go. That's number one,
Bad Company. Make your note. You can even like score
them one through five. Let's do that and we'll add
up our votes. Okay, so Bad Company, don't tell me
what it is boom any halves. No, that'll just complicate things.
(38:51):
Next up the Black Crows, and so I love the
Black Crows, so just as a personal taste, I love
the Black Crows now when they did Hard to Handle.
That is a cover, but it doesn't matter massive song
for them. Hey, hey, here, I am, who's the original
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singer otis writing? John? I can give you what you
bomb bomb to get me. Hell, lad's opposite him like
a lot lads out. Hey, let me go.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
My mom.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Read you know that one?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I know that little last.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
You don't get a score. Oh I want to score. No,
you are a consultant to see how if they've okay,
I do that they've been able to still like exist
ten years after all.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I love it. Okay.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
What's cool about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
is that this is when all members of the bands,
if they do get inducted, they get together again. Like
even if they broke up they hated each other. You
start seeing these like, oh wow, this is the first
time they've seen each other in twenty years. And with
the County with the Black Crows, you know they're drummer,
They don't. He's not part of the band anymore. This
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is really the brothers and then whoever else joins the band.
The band now is just the two brothers and they
hit each other forever. Yes, so the band would get
back together. She talks to angels is epic.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
It's a you know this one? It said, Yeah, how
does that go? She never mentions the word addiction in
Sudden Company. Okay, how about this Uh, yeah, she talks
to angel. Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard that calls him
right by. You know that one. Yeah, she talks ag
that's it. There you go, Okay, there's that one. How
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about Remedy, So that's more of a it's almost it's
a beast. I think it was single for them, but
that one doesn't really plague a classic rock radio as
like a power.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
I don't know I've heard that one.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
You don't think you've heard it? Remedy Jealous again, it's
a jam jealous again. So with the Black Crows, I
don't think they have as many massive songs over the
body that Bad Company does. And the lead singer was
married to Kate Hudson, which was doesn't matter. It was
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kind of a power. You don't look at Joe Demagic.
Well he got with Marilyn Monroe. That given points though,
here's twice as hard. Oh damn dude, the first time.
All right, that's Black Crows. Put your score down. Read those?
Did you know any of those? I know that she
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talks to angels and you know that one little ditty
on the back of that. Are you doing your own scoring?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
No scoring?
Speaker 3 (41:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, he doesn't get a score he doesn't get scored.
Mariah Carey, she she's a five to me even though
it's on. That's just like an automatic one of the
five spots, because I mean, one of the biggest artists
of our lifetime period. Like I don't know any of
her songs. Every song it's the Christmas one, you know,
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hero for sure, like honestly a gun to my head.
I don't know if I can sing here some of them.
Dream Lover, Fantasy, that sweet sweet fantasy baby. Well then
your score can be low then oh always be my baby?
Know that one? What is this? That was always my baby?
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Here's fantasy, sweet sweet fantasy baby? Really early, make it happen?
How about? You're not gonna know these I.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
Want to lose street cred, but I just don't know
these songs. I don't know where I was musically.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
I don't think it's street credit. Is streets happy? You
don't know? Like we belong.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Together like that one?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Ready this we belong together? Hero. There's a hero, And
all I could think of is Enrique gla hero and
my baby. Let me see, let me see there we go?
Oh yeah, you know, have to fake it. You're not
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gonna getddle school, in middle school, I guess I remember
hearing people play this. Okay, I always love Massive One
Sweet Day the Boys to Men. Yeah, sorry, I never
told Okay, the video they died like it's about death
shining down on me from heaven like so many no nothing, God,
(43:45):
that's crazy. Okay, that's wild. But but hey, Christmas jams though,
all right for Christmas? You like, of course I know
that one. It's just so many more, but you're not
gonna know them because you didn't know those. Well what
year was she? Well, she covered a lot of years,
early nineties, early two thousands, she kept putting. I think
I wasteen years. I was so grunged in that, so
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was I. But I still was like, right, you were
also were you working? No nineties, dude, I was like twelve.
I feel like you were working when you were twelve
years not at music? Okay, yeah, man, I think from
Riah Carey. Yeah, So do you want me to score
the way I did score? That's on me because I
assumed that you were intelligent. Okay, I'm kidding, like I
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should know that, but I just wasn't there. I'm listening
to that Chubby Checker now on the surface you're like,
of course it's like one hundred years old because he
had the twist, Let's twist, and then he had let's
twist again.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Oh that is wow, that's the sequel. Yeah, like what
happened in that story. They needed a sequel.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Because the twist.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Come on, baby, let's do the twist.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
And then at the second then it's like, well, no, hits,
so let's do again. Let's twist again like we did
last summer the greatest hits. Well, let's twist again. Still
waiting for mambo number six? Limbo rock? Nah? You limbo song?
So chubby limb? Is this what they used for limbo? Maybe? Sound?
I just know the song? I used to do this
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at the Roller Ring. Yeah yeah, okay, jack Bumble be quick. Yeah,
I know that's Chubby Checker, so chubby. You can write
transfer on that one. Did Chubby do Blueberry Hill?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Oh, I know why I mixed that Fat's Domino Fats.
Oh my god, my head. Obie Johnson, I got high
blood pressure. Wilson, geez ude, you are rude. Okay, Next up,
(46:00):
this is my head, dude, it's messed up. Next up,
Joe Cocker. Oh, so wonder would be the soul version
of you Oh So Beautiful? He did that one. He
also did what would you do If I sing out
of tune? We'll just end up and walk out on me.
(46:20):
So these are covers, yeah so, but oh wow, they're
both covers revolutionary because his voice was so scratchy and
and he would perform and it looked like he was
in so much pain when he would sing. I'm not
sure because those two songs are both covers. I'm not
sure which aren't covers. But I can tell you the
songs I know him for, like lift Us Up, Where
(46:43):
We Below? Yes, now huge jam, You are so beautiful
to me? That one's jam he played Woodstock. Yeah, because
he's in the the movie is why I know that
the documentary. He comes out of that and then I
give by a little help from my friends. Do you
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think we would have known that song? It one's for
wonder years because not his version. Maybe I think that
maybe even known the Beatles. I mean probaly would have
known the Beatles version, but it would have been near
as popular because that made that popular for us. I
mean the sound of what would You Do? It wouldn't
have been as known for sure. That's so cool. You
can leave your hat on as a jam you do,
(47:26):
I'm telling you classic rock. You'll know this. Held on,
let it get there. It's not that voice, man.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
He sounds like he is in pain.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
He looks like he's in pain when he's saying nothing.
Really No, it's his eighties kind of sounds. Eighties, probably
late seventies, eighties. You can't leave your hat on, okay, Crystal,
I don't think so. You can't be in that much
pain a thing like that, you know, And I feel
(48:05):
all right? This is feeling all right? Oh yeah, feel
all right. I was a jam man. I don't know
that I knew that was Joe Coxy. We'll get there.
Hold on, I keep missing the chorus whatever he died
(48:32):
in twenty fourteen, he did, Okay, So I think that's
pretty much. Is that it? I mean, he has other
massive songs like Unchanged my Heart with eighty seven million,
but I'm going super surface, no research here in my
heart that thinking. I don't know that I know there.
(49:00):
I don't know that one. Okay. Joe Cocker writes your
answer down there your point there. He died of lung
cancer seventy years old. I want to be smoked because
sometimes it happens like to the people people that are
just in rooms. Yeah, like yeah, exactly, the arousing lung
cancer because of my my aunt Billy Idol. Thanks that
he for taking us down. You had to make a
(49:21):
personal god dang and my cousin. Okay, dude, about your cousin,
Billy Idol, You're gonna know a.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Ton so yeah, white white wedding or weather rebel yell
she yo mo mo or moan and mone this one
money mooney, dude, that's so good.
Speaker 7 (49:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah moan and mo good moan and mo.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, that's so good. He was in the wedding singer
too on yep, yep. Dancing on Myself's a big songs
from Billy Idole. Oh yeah, mm hmm you have. We
did rebel Yo eyes without a face. You'll know what
(50:14):
you won't know? That was the title though. I'll let
you know this. Oh rady you ever heard that one?
I've never heard that one, but with the rebel yea
we go, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
You can do that, Okay, Billy out to write Gordon
got it? This is tough man. What's tough because we
only have one through five.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
And then let's take a quick pause for a message
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Speaker 2 (50:55):
Okay, next up, Joy Division or New Order. I'm gonna
be honest with you. They ain't getting a vote from
me because I don't know. I'm you're gonna know like
a couple songs. I'm ignorant on their catalog. So I'll
do Joy Division their number one song, Leveill Tear Us Apart.
Yeah you'll know this. No, No, I think my brother
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listened to stuff. That's kind of why I know it.
If there's a song that I'm not knowing, I just
don't know enough to even hit play on it. This
is called disorder. Yeah, I can't see them making them.
Be honest with you. I know you don't even want
to got this. I don't even know. I'm not put
them on the list because they're not gonna. I don't
want to set them up for another failure. Is the
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scoring system zero or one one? Cindy Lpper girls just
want to have fun. I just want to have fun.
So if I type in Cindy Lopper good enough time
after time, No, that's person. So that for her one
(52:06):
billion streams. Girls just want to have fun. On Number
two is time after time music. I was, and I
will find you time after time like used in like
some maybe Bridesmaids, that's Wilson, Phil's froably some day somebody.
But that's not them. The point is that what it is,
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That's what I was thinking of. How about this one?
I see your true cut shine through? And she was
on wrestling too when she was when she was don't
be afraid to let them show.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
True.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
But you can cover that one. I love it all
through the night if I know this one? No, not enough? Okay,
So those are the biggest, biggest good Enough's none there
the goonies, the goonies, that's what. That's what. It's not
her top.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Good enough.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I don't know good enough if if that's the thing,
it's not even ten million. Oh yeah, yeah man, it's
not even on her list. So anywhere thirty in that's
Are you sure she sings it? Maybe there's like a
record like a Master's Owner issue there. Well, but if
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she's saying it, she would still Okay, what's it called
good enough? Yeah, Cydney Lapper good enough? Okay, it's called
the Goodies are the Goonies letter are good Enough? Okay
is just for the movie. The title of its the
Goonies are good Enough. You know this.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
I love it, dude.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
I've never seen the Goonies. Don't think I don't know,
go to the course to the Course. I've never seen
the Goonies. Yeah, but it's like it's like I don't
know that. It's like Huey Lewis and Power Love same
do ye. No, that's great. You don't compare that to
(54:05):
you the Power because that became a hit by itself,
but that was for the movie too. I think it
actually says Goony's in the song though. I think she goes, Okay,
Cyndy Lapper, Okay, we have like six more. I don't
even know this. Next artist m a n Ana Mexican.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
Yeah, Mexican artists from Mexico and dude so good. Pull
up some of the Mexican Mexicans. It's like Mexican reggae.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Dude. This is part of like all my say me
and Moore No Do Rayondo l Soul Novendo that one.
Speaker 6 (54:46):
He goes, oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean that internationally
probably huge to us for you all.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Don't even know that, Mike, do.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
You know that is?
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I know where they are. They're huge. Well, you guys
are from like Mexican families though, yeah, look at the
color of my skin.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
I know they are.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I put them at five. Oh my okay, but no, no,
I don't think I'm gonna give them a one, but
we can score them. I just don't know them. So yeah, Oasis,
Oh oh yeah, they are finally back together. They're touring Oasis. Dude,
I'm just gonna tell you, guys, because again this is
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selfish my love of Oasis. They're a five for me.
Me too, like me too. It's like the first song
I learned. You guys don't understand music didn't sound like
this when this came out. That's a good point. It
was very different, and when it came when Wonderwall came out,
like who is? Like what is? This is so cool
because after you know my wonder Wall. One of my
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favorite songs of their singles is don't look back at Anger,
So Sally can't wait. She knows it's too late as
my work. You know, Champagne super Nova in a Champagne
super Nova, do you know, uh, don't let back an anger?
Read I know Champagne super That's not what I asked.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
No, I don't know this one. Well actually maybe.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Drums. I know it just because of the drugs.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Sally came away. God's so good. Yeah, they got a
five for me. Yeah, I mean probably don't have the
overall library like I love livet Forever. It wasn't a
massive song for them, like a big American single. I mean,
(56:56):
my wife and I discuss going to their their show there,
like first big festival show back in England because she
likes them right well, but she didn't know of them.
She didn't know them. They went viral on TikTok for
getting back together. She's like, these guys are funny. They
started to listen to the music. She's like, do you
want to go to the one? And I forgot what
city they're from, Farming, But at the first show she
was gonna go to the festival show. Yeah, And I
was like, I don't I love them, but I gotta
(57:17):
one here. It's a long flight, long flight back. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (57:20):
So so when they broke up though, did Noel Noel right,
Noel Gallagher, he just keep making Oasis music.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
They both no no, no, no, no nobody did Oasis really, Yeah,
one had High Flying Noel and Liam. When they split,
there was no Oasis.
Speaker 6 (57:35):
No more Oasis because I remember Noel just keep playing music.
I guess he was just doing his own music.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
They both played songs, but I think Noel had Noel's
High Flying Bird. Let me say, hold on, Nol Gallicer
didn't mean to put you on the spot band high
Flying Birds. Okay, so no band Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.
(58:02):
Gotta knew that? And Liam bad I is that? Who
it is BDI that has Liam's band BDI two thousand
and nine to twenty fourteen. I gotta I'm not as
familiar as bad I as I am high Flying Birds.
But both of them they were just fine. It just
sounds like half Oasis. They didn't have each other. Yeah,
(58:23):
and we listen. One was the lead singer, one was
the guitar, grapher and creator behind it, so like you
couldn't really do it without both of them, which is
kind of odd because mostly you can do bands with
that lead like if you want to change the lead singer,
that's tough, or the leads, but the leadsicker can go
by himself and do it couldn't do that really, unless
he's just singing the old songs because the other brothers,
the one who wrote him, Yeah, crazy, Okay, write your
(58:44):
score on there. Oh I got it. I'm already done,
me too. Outcast a lot of songs. Yeah, and if
you wanted to go the most the most pop part
of it was that when they put out Speaker Box
Love Blow Album, it was a double album. Andrea three
thousand and did one of them and Big Boy to
the other, and it was basically two albums by two
(59:04):
different people. But they still was an Outcast record. But hey,
y'all was on that one. It's huge. Shake it, shake
it like a polaroid picture. Hey, ladies, Before that, like
Miss Jackson was massive and then ain't nobody bay. I'm
still so fresh, so clean. I like the way you move.
(59:26):
I like old school almost all the way old school
but not totally old school. Was dust that does everybody
moved to the back of the bus. That was Rosa Parks,
which I was a fan. I was a fan of.
I was an early outcast. Uh huh bust that bus.
(59:48):
Everybody moved to the back of the bus. That's that
one's so cool? Uh bombs over back, Dad. Bob bombs
over back Dad. There you go, drums. So that's old school.
We met give me him. I met undred thousand and
(01:00:09):
airport in another country once. That's right, very briefly, and
I was just like, I'm a big fan, thank you,
so by meat him. No, not really, Roses, God, Roses
was awesome. Oh yeah, ditch Rose smell like roses really
(01:00:39):
smell like. I don't know that one. Okay, write them down?
Four left, three left, Fish. Oh man, this is Fish.
I'm not gonna know any songs zero, but I know
like their cultural impact.
Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
They were like the sun of great great fish heads. Yeah,
those are the people that followed them from city to city.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
So if I'm voting on this, I'm just voting on
like personal I don't know enough of Fish's stuff, but
I do understand their impact. But they're not going to
be a top five for me because I'm not as
educated on Fish. Let's see if I know any songs, dude,
I don't know any of these. Oh nope, I mean
(01:01:24):
not a radio band. No no, no, right, jam band,
touring band, fan base band, like that's it. Yeah, sound Garden,
come on, two left, come on, dude, Sound garden again.
You're now you're in my wheelhouse a little bit more,
which I'm going to be a bit unfairly biased because
this is what I listened to growing up. Black Hole,
sun O, you come wash away the Rain Rain? I
(01:01:50):
think it's is it you wash away rain? I think
you watch away the rain? You watch away the pain rain.
Let's see that makes sense, though, sun wash away the Rain.
I mean that's more than pain. I think I just
hurt when I sing it, So I think it's pain
and Chris Cornell a lot of pain. I don't know
the words of any songs, though, I think in the
(01:02:13):
music video the rain gets to walk the words. That's
only a let merry wine. Nice is the rain? It
(01:02:43):
is the rain, the rain, spoon man, dude, jam Fell
on black Days. There you go. It's feel long, awesome,
long time so good.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Bam.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
There you got's some rich jam Fell alone Like personally,
I love them. I'm gonna tell you I I did.
I don't think they're rock and roll Hall of fame
right now.
Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
Once there's there a better time. A couple more hits
and they make they're done, their.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Late singers dead. A couple more, but write your thing down.
I'm a big fan of like three or four songs,
but I may surprise you the score. Okay, and you
know their their drummer is now pearl Jam drummer. No,
why would I know that or care That's that's to
go into your voting. I will not let it. And
then finally, the white stripes now not Jack White. Yeah,
(01:03:47):
just white stripes, just white stripes Jack and his wife excellent. No,
it's their name white, uh because they were both white, right,
like Jack White and Karen White. Karen, No, it's not Karen.
I don't know. I don't want to say Amy. No,
Meg Meg Meg is good job, Okay, White strips obviously,
(01:04:11):
Seven Nation Army. I mean it's huge. Every band in
college football plays it. This song is so big. That's
gotta be a consideration, like having a song that has
not really lost popularity and has grown and popular in
other places of the world like sports. How about I
fell in Love with the Girl here read on that one,
(01:04:40):
huh and read it was just there was just two
of them. It was just him and his wife play
drums and he played all guitar. That's crazy, and everything
was candy cane them. So who played the bass. There
was no bass he did. He kind of lowered the
towne on those guitar. We're gonna be friend, yeah, Jack
(01:05:01):
Johnson did it later. Yeah, but this is originally White Truck.
I can say there, we are gonna be friends. Ikey thumb.
Oh that's so good. I was a fan, so I
know some of these is like not even like big
radio songs. Okay, in so many movies, dude, what that like?
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah? That song seven Nation Army.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
All they okay? Our final tabulation, Oh that was the
last beIN the last one. Wow, those are always up
for Let's see what we get here. So i'lly all
your score out. Bad Company Brent three four okay, Bad
company total score of ten. The Black Crows two three four,
(01:05:45):
So that's nine four and three is seven nine stupid
this next one? Oh okay, so I want to do
ten here nine here. Mariah Carey five five one eleven. Hey,
that's what it is. Read do my background on my numbers?
Got you Hubby Checker.
Speaker 8 (01:06:07):
Three, Shabby two three eight, Joe Cocker three three three
it is Billy Idol five three three eleven. I'm going
to give the top five of my votes for the
rock and Hall of Fames. We're just we're literally deciding
(01:06:30):
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Cindy Lapper five three? Did you skip Joy Division?
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I didn't think they were okay, Joy Division one. Okay. See,
that's why I don't want to bring it back, because
I got a low rating. I got, I got you,
Cindy Lapper five three three Big Fan over there?
Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Oasis two?
Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Wait Oasis? You skipped my NA now one. I know
I wanted to put them up there because the're for
sure losing. I do have three from my now until
on you I got a one? Would you give them two? Yeah?
There were some I skipped over on purpose because why
bring them back in just to get beat down? You
know I got I got you? No, no, no way.
Oasis is a four you four five five for me?
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Okay? So fourteen okay? Out Cast five four four thirteen.
You want to let to skip the next one? What's
the next one? Fish? Yeah? I get fish and one
just from one okay one two, Sound Garden three three five,
(01:07:34):
Black Holes, Sun eleven okay. And then finally White Stripes
four five wow, White Strips. I didn't take my personal
bias out of it. I don't feel like they have
the catalog to make rock and a Hall of fame. Okay,
So what'd you have?
Speaker 7 (01:07:50):
Four?
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
It's eleven nine five Okay, so we got our top
five here. The number one score is Oasis. They are
getting a boat. Let's go ye send them okay, Oasis.
And then we have one, two, three, four, We have
five with eleven. No outcast is thirteen, I think, so
outcast is in with thirteen, send them Oasis of fourteen.
(01:08:14):
Outcast at thirteen. And then with elevens we did Joe Cocker,
we did nine. So with elevens we have Mariah Carey,
Billy Idol, Cindy Lapper, Sound Garden, white stripes. So we
got to pick three of these. Okay, I don't My
white stripe score was solo. Anybody with the two shouldn't
(01:08:36):
get in. Okay, I can agree to that. Yeah, So
white strips out, white stripes out. So we have Mariah Carey,
Billy Idol, just Sandy Lapper, Sound Gardens and Mariah just
do it. Mariah should be I'm an idiot. I was
sleeping those years, okay, Mariah. So now we have Billy Idol,
Cindy Lapper, and sound Garden, and we can only pick one,
(01:08:58):
we can pick two. Which one of the three would
you pick? Right, Billy Idol, Eddie. I mean, out of
those three, I'd go Billy Idol. It wins anyway, because
if I'd have picked anything else, Billy out still wins. Okay,
So Billy Idol's in. And then it's either gonna be
Cindy Lapper or sound Garden. I'm gonna pick again, I
(01:09:21):
to my bias out of it, I'm gonna pick Cindy Lapper.
I think she has bigger catalog of songs that have
transcended longer. That's why I would also go Cindy Lapper.
If I'm gonna pick to listen to something, it's going
to be sound Garden. But I'm gonna go Cindy Loppers.
And what would you pick? Sound Garden? Soundgarden? Yeah, I'm
gonna go by bias included sound Garden. Okay, do it
(01:09:42):
for Chris. So here's what we have, Oasis Outcast, Mariah Carey,
Billy Idol, and Cindy Lapper. It's pretty solid. That would
be the vote for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Ye,
it's a pretty solid five. I feel bad for Manna
whatever don't know it, but that's okay. They expected that.
I only don't know it because I I'm complete white
bread South. It was very regional to the world. Oh,
(01:10:04):
thank you for the history here. Okay, I think that'll
do it. Read thank you for your post.
Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Of course, man, I love all those bands.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Do you love them enough? You don't know any of
the bands Oasis and Cindy Opera were up there for me?
You know Outcast?
Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
I did no Outcast? So those were the three? Did
they all make it? Three made it? They're in there
bad company. You weren't here for bad company. No, I
was not here, but you do know a bad company
till the day I die. Okay, Well, thank you guys,
Thank you mansank you, thank you for allowing us to
be part of your If I were to have just
picked without you guys, I think I would have gone
(01:10:44):
see if they match Oasis, Outcast, Mariah Carey, Black Crows,
Joe Cocker just looking at Oh wow, you wouldn't put
Billy Idol in there. Yeah, but once we played it
and sort of listen, I think that added like some
perspective of looking at the songs. But those would have
(01:11:05):
been the fire fight just checked off, but I like
where we are. Think we ended up going to place Oasis.
Outcast Mariah Carey, Billy Idol, Cyndi Lauper, all right, that
is it, Mike were good, We're good, all right, that
is it. Thank you guys for listening and we will
see you guys soon.
Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production
As soon as I heard it, I thought, oh, I
know exactly where this fits. Adam Duritz was amazing singer
and also really really interesting writer, very complicated cat.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Episode five oh one. We will in a few minutes
make my votes for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
which I am lucky they haven't kicked me out, not
because I'm doing anything wrong or don't know music, because
I feel like I do, but because every year we
sit in here and pick my votes. So we got
a panel of friends. We're gonna go through everybody that's nominated,
and I will make my votes dependent on what we select.
(00:43):
That could get me kicked out, but I hope it doesn't.
Starting us off though, Like really one of the greatest
producers ever, t Bone Burnett. He's in because Ringo's country
album came out called Look Up. You can hear the
episode of The Ringo Star if you back. He wrote
nine out of the eleven songs. What was kind of
(01:03):
fun was whenever Ringo was in the chair for half
an hour whatever that was, t Bone was sitting right
over to the side watching and then flip flopped for
a bit, and then eventually Ringo had to go and
he was like, I go Teva and then Ringo left.
But so that's the reason that he's doing some press.
But what was really cool is talking about some of
the other stuff that he did. If you want to
(01:25):
go watch T bone Burnette live his first concert tour
nearly twenty years, go to t bone Burnette dot com.
He's gonna be in Pennsylvania, New York, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Connecticut,
New York. Apparently he lives right down the road for me,
which I had no idea. It's his first solo album
called The Other Side that's out now from T bon
Burnette again, his first tourn twenty years, first solo album
in twenty years. I mean, where do you start? He
(01:46):
toured with Bob Dylan. He produced Oh Brother, Where Art Thal?
The soundtrack. He revived Johnny Cash's career. He worked on
Walk the Line, and he was the executive music producer,
And so we had to kind of coach and teach
from what I read and what we talked about Jaquin
Phoenix and Reese Weatherspoon how to be Johnny Cash and
June Carter, which I think is super cool. He basically
(02:09):
created the Americana sound. He mentions Jeff Bridges, we go
back into it. He helped Jeff Bridges become a country
singer because he did crazy Heart, the music for Crazy Heart,
so we did that. Super private guy, which is why
it was really neat for him to come over to
the house. I mean, he was a DJ when they
were DJs. I mean there's still the terms weird now.
(02:31):
A DJ in general to me is somebody at a
club that kind of thing, and even now on the radio,
everything's digital and people that just play music really don't
get they don't pick it. You're not like physically putting in.
That's weird. Yeah, But he was an original DJ, like
back in the day in Fort Worth, Texas, playing rock
and blues records and what I love the most Counting Cross.
(02:57):
That's right. He produced August and everything after, which is
maybe it depends what day of the week you asked me.
My favorite album ever, it's that I love Nirvana Unplugged,
although that's kind of cheating because it's got Nirvana songs
and it's them playing on acoustic and it's got David
(03:19):
Bowie and meat Puppet songs on it. But that's like
my favorite album. Obviously, I'm gonna put John Mayer Continuum
up there. I'm gonna put Casey Musgraves, same trailer, different park,
but I think August and everything after that's probably it.
Now Beast Boys Licensed to Ill. That's my top five,
So it just depends what day it is. Correct not
top five like that would get a Lifetime Achievement award
(03:42):
because Letter Cry is still one of my favorite songs
to sing along too of this day, so that has
been one of my top ten. I would compare it
to my friend Andy Roddick. He was number one in
the world for a couple of years, he won a major,
but he was top ten for like fifteen years. He
never left top ten, So he's one of the greatest
tennis players ever. Not because he was number one for
(04:04):
like Federer was for five, seven eight, djoke of it
all those guys. He was number one for a couple
of years, won a major, but he say top ten
for a decade. That's what correct rearview is to me,
the Andy Roddick of music. But yeah, how would I
like to have just talked counting Goes for an hour
if I'm being honest, and then I got we talked wallflowers,
(04:25):
and then I'm like, hey, you know. And Adam Durris
did the background vocals on sixth Avenue Heartache. Yeah, I
wasn't herd episode five oh one, well do rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. But first, one of the greats,
t Bone Burnett, we just had Ringo here. He told
a story of you pulling songs out of your pocket. Literally,
he claimed you had songs in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Hey, oh, I do I have a pocket full right now?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And trying are you kidding or no?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I don't know if you know I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay, I literally didn't know if you're because I thought
he was kidding at first, but then he was like, no,
literally he had songs in his pocket. Did you know
you were going to run into Ringo? Or do you
always keeps? Well?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
No, he I went out. He said, come out and
let's talk about doing an EP?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Got it?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
And so he said do you have any other songs?
And so I was writing and I just kept writing
because I didn't know if he would like any of them,
you know, And then we started listening to him to them,
and he liked all of them, and he said, well,
let's make an album, and so I said, okay, you know,
and it did. It was really sweet to him to
(05:27):
say these songs were written by somebody who knows him,
because I do. I know him. I don't know him
personally as well, but I know him aesthetically and artistically
really really well. I understand where where he's coming from. Well,
you know you can when we're doing when we're doing
(05:47):
these movies, the first thing we do is do a
history of the character. Like the first song when we
did Crazy Heart, Jeff was playing a singer called bad Blake,
and so we did what was the We had to
come up with a history for him, and it was
what was the first song you ever heard? What was
the worst first record you ever bought? What was the
(06:09):
first song you ever wrote? Who? You know, what singers
influenced you? What record? You just put a whole history together. Well,
you know, Ringo had a whole history that I could
refer to. And also I was you know, I was
in nineteen sixty four when the Beatles came out. I
(06:30):
was sixteen, so I was in the perfect place to
receive that gift that they poured out to all of us.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And how long until it became a real project?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
This one?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, you know it kind.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Of was for me the whole. As soon as he said,
write a song for me, I wrote that song that
he whistles on called come Back When You Go Away,
because I wanted to write him a gene Autry song.
And as soon as I soon, because I knew well,
first of all, Ringo's Star sounds like uh, you know,
the sheriff of Tombstone, Arizona or something. It was a
(07:06):
cowboy name in the first place. And I also knew
the Lightning Hopkins' story that he told, and and I
knew I just knew where he was coming from. You know,
all all the Beatles things he did, with the exception
of good Night probably or little help from my friends,
even that's a country so like Photograph is a very
(07:29):
that's a song he and George Harrison wrote, It's still
very much like a country rock song today. In fact,
if the Beatles came out today, they would be considered
a roots rock band.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I agree, especially the early you know, the early version
before the seventies, and they very much would be that.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, they were the early you know, early on they
were a cover band, and they were covering Chuck Berry
and Buddy Holly and Jene Vincent and Eddie Cochran, Little Richard,
all the same stuff we were playing in Tech in
nineteen sixty four sixty five.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Did you have to give him or what guidance did
he ask for either way when doing this record, because
again it feels so natural.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
He didn't ask for any and I didn't offer any either.
I did he once he said he liked the songs.
Then I came back and added a few pieces. Mostly
they were cut by Daniel Tashin. Dennis Crouch and I
played the tracks. Dennis Crouch is really at the current
(08:31):
in the current time. He's the world's greatest string bass players,
rockabilly slap bass player, but he plays great jazz. He
plays jump blues, he plays bebop, he plays everything. Plays
with Diana Crawl, and he plays with Robert Plant and
Alison Krause. So we cut the tracks, and then I
(08:53):
went out and sat with Ringo for an afternoon and
he recorded for four of the songs on drums, two takes,
just as he said. And that was a thrill for
me because I was sitting we're really a little little
further than we're sitting apart now while he was playing
(09:14):
and just sitting there listening to him play live was thrilling. Really,
all those symbols on the record are the symbols from
the from the Beatles records, and he hasn't cleaned them
in fifty years or sixty years whatever. They are, so
the same symbols, and you know, I recognize the sound
of the symbols immediately. And then and then he he
(09:36):
started he was showing me the high hats, I said,
because his approach to the high hat was unique. Nobody's
ever played that sound that way, and it was it
was thrilling. It was a very exciting frequency. And I
realized that the way he played the high hat was
very much a part of the reason the girl screamed,
(10:00):
because it was he was setting off that energy that screamed.
The high hats were screaming, you know, little Richard scream
Paul McCartney screamed. There was that, there was that crazy
energy in it. In fact, I just I was listening.
Uh the Beatles on their first trip over here, played
(10:22):
a show in Washington, d C. In the round, and
I was I was watching a video of that, and
they played everything incredibly fast, you know, they were it
was just all, well, you know, we're going to get you,
and they they got us, you know they did.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Sonically it made sense, which I didn't know if it was.
If I'm being honest, I was like, Okay, well I'm
I'm curious to see what the sounds.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Like, oh this record, this record.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, specifically sonically it made way more sense in the
best way that I then I I don't. I didn't
have an expectation at all.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well that's good, Well I wanted I just wanted to
it thread back directly to Honey, Honey, don't and act
naturally and and even even well like what goes on?
You know, all of these extraordinary country rock you know,
(11:16):
they were the first country rock band, the first country
rock recording was I Don't want to Spoil the party,
and almost all country music since then, certainly all the
country music today goes back to that one recording, you know,
the the way he played the high hat, the way
the will he can too with buck Owens band played
(11:39):
the high hat, a similar feel on the high hat,
and they they buck Owens was considered the rocky year
side of country music at the time.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know, you mentioned Jeff Bridges a second ago, and
when I talk about advice or help, I feel like
you were instrumental in helping him be a country or
at least understanding count music. Do you feel that way, Jeff, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, I think so. I mean when we were putting
Bad Blake together, Jeff has a deep baritone voice, and
so he couldn't sing that kind of twang what they
call twang country sound of Merle Haggard or you know,
or Lefty for Zell, that kind of stuff. But what
he could sing was Don Williams, who's one of my
(12:25):
favorite singers anyway, and he could sing Leonard Cohen type songs.
So we so I sort of showed him into the
world of country music through that. But you know, he
looks a lot like Christofferson in that movie. And he
and Chris we all made a movie together in the
seventies called Heaven's Gate and spent a great deal of
time together. So Jeff had just been into music since
(12:49):
as long as I've known him for fifty years. So
but I was able to lead him into that part
of country music that he you know, I don't think
he really knew Don Williams at the time.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Some pretty iconic movies that you've been responsible for, the
music Walk the line comes to mind, and again, you've
worked with Johnny and then you're working with somebody that's
playing Johnny. Do you put a pressure on yourself for
it to be authentic as possible?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, definitely. I mean I only I don't like biopics myself.
Like I haven't seen the new Dylan biopic.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I haven't seen it either yet because I don't go
to the theater when it streams.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I mean, well, you know the thing about these singing stars,
for these performers, they have a certain charisma that is
uniquely them. And you can see Bob Marley, you can
say that about Ray Charles, certainly Dylan. I think I
actually think Joaquin did a better job evoking Johnny Cash
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than he did as an impression of Johnny Cash. But
what I feel most of the time when I dip
into those biopics is that you know, I missed the original.
I've constantly got the original in my mind and I'm
I'm constantly thinking, uh, that's a great and that's a
(14:10):
great impersonation. But I don't. But I like getting immersed
in film, like have you seen this film? And Noora,
this is a funny thing to talk.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
About, Okay, great movie.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's a great movie. It's I just voted for it.
I'm not supposed to say this, but I voted for
it for everything that it was up for. Because what's about.
It's about a sex worker, a lap dancer in New
York City who falls falls into a relationship with this
Russian Oligark's son who's sixteen or eighteen or something. It's
(14:46):
it's a wild movie. But it's why did I even
bring this up?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Is a music in the movie that.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
No, it's not, it's not that's but that's a movie
that was just just got lost in it, which is
what I which is the great a power of movies
and any going back to the biopics that I'm always
one step removed from them.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Whenever you start to work on Oh brother, we're out there,
did you know that this that that product as you
were doing it? Did it feel special to you or
did it just feel good?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Like?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I don't know, because it ended up both remarkable well
all three?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, I thought. You know, folk music, which I
think of all of this music is folk music. American music,
country music is folk music. Hip hop is folk music.
It's all music that comes up from the street, from
the ground, you know, excuse me, uh, but when you
(15:44):
know when we started, oh, brother Wert, there there had
been folk music had been out of the mainstream for
quite some time. We had all these extraordinary, underappreciated artists,
and we had a George Klooney movie to shine a
light on them. And you know, there were several things
that made it remarkable. One was the Turn of the Millennium.
(16:10):
And if you, I don't know if you're old enough
to remember back then, but they there was a thing
called the Y two K boy, I thought we were
all dying. Yeah, they were supposed to shut down all
of reality and people. There was a lot of anxiety
going into the Turn of the Millennium, and then you know,
the World Trade Center got hit and there was a
(16:31):
lot of uncertainty. And there was something about hearing that
music that was so woven into American culture, into our
American identity and who we think of ourselves as that
was there was reminding us of that, and so it
took on a whole other life of its own that
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none of us had any idea about at the time.
But certainly I thought, I mean it didn't I had
a few years earlier made a record by the Wallflowers
that's called Bringing Down, called One head.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Light, bringing Down the Horse, the whole record. I love it, beautiful,
loved it, love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And you know, I just read that one Headlight is
the most played radio song of the nineties. Really yeah,
but uh, and I'd made an album by Counting Crows,
and both of those records sounded very much like the
old Brother Where art that record?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Did you do? August? And everything after?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
My favorite record of all time?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Oh really, yeah, I love that record of all time.
It's a beautiful record.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And I can see the like the common thread yeah
in those Yeah, and the Folk and all three of them.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, if you if you look at that, if you
look at the Counting Crows, Wallflowers and Oh Brother were
there's it's a continuum, it's a there's a line between them,
and and so you know, those records had sold ten
million records or something. So I, you know, I thought
there was every good chance that this could sell too,
(18:03):
because we had because we had a movie. You know,
it was it was it was music that wasn't getting
played on the radio. But the movie theater becomes a
pretty good radio station.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know. Yeah, And exposes a lot of people to
something they wouldn't have gotten anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, and you hear it through good speakers.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
You know, and you trust George Cloney because he's just
good looking and he's like the star that you feel like,
you know, like all of that. You know. When Ringo
was talking earlier about opening for Roy Orbison, I was
thinking about you because you played with Roy, right, I.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Did, and I produced Roy and I did the first
one of these. We just did a group show for
Ringo at the Ryman for this new record. The first
one of those I did was with Orbison call. It
was called A Black and White Night in probably nineteen
ninety and it was a group show with Elvis and
Costello and Tom Waite and Bruce Springsteen and Jackson Brown
(19:02):
and Jennifer Warrence and Bonnie Raid and Katie Lang in
the TCB band Elvis Presley's rhythm section.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back, and
we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Whenever you go through that your catalog of artists that
you've worked with, written for, produced, who do you think
of When I say who knew exactly who they were
from the very beginning and they were a bit different,
but it ended up being massive, like had their own voice,
but it was a little different, but ended up being
something that just changed music.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well is there. I can't think of a better example
than Orbison. Actually, you know he I'm from fort Worth.
I grew up in Fort Worth. He grew up in
Fort Worth too, and he lived over on the north
side behind the Isis Theater that he called the Izis Theater.
And he uh, he loved Verde Verde. He loved opera,
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and he wrote these arias. He wrote songs that went
from his lowest note to his highest note, so like
in Dreams, for instance, it starts again indy colo glum.
They call this san He also, by the way, sang
so quietly that if you stood ten feet away from
him you couldn't hear him. But it was all this
(20:32):
beautiful tone, this deep, deep tone, And so when you
put a mic in front of him, that he completely
filled the microphone. Microphones are like horns. You can't you
blow them, and they they resonate, and at any rate
he would go from like that Akadney Coler clown to injury,
(20:55):
you know, all that soft, but it would sound like
he was singing an opera or something on the radio.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's I never thought about dreams like that. There is
such a nuance, you know from how again, how it
starts in a slow to you know dream. There's so
much there, so much small change.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
It's so well, it doesn't the sections don't repeat, it keeps.
It continually transitions from one one mode to another until
he goes from his lowest to his highest notes.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I like it that you wore sunglasses because you couldn't
You couldn't tell where he's looking, and so everybody felt
like they may be getting looked at. Yeah right, That's
what I like about people in sunglasses. You never know
they might just be looking at you.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
To go back to counting crows for one second, How
did you get on that part?
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Like?
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Where did that come from? How did you get attached
to that?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
That was just one of those tapes that came through
my door and I put it on and I listened
to it, and as soon as I heard it, I thought, oh,
I know exactly where this fits. It was just one
of those clear moments where the singer Adam Durittz was
amazing singer and also really really interesting rider, very complicated cat.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Whenever you mentioned the Wallflowers, I think of Sixth Avenue
Heartache where durrets does background vocals on that, because you
worked to both of them, were you responsible for that peering?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well, yeah, I guess so, yeah, more or less.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's pretty cool. Like that to me is like, that's
like the coolest thing. Like that was like to hear
Adam Durretz do the background vocals on sixth Avenue Heartache, Yeah,
that's so legit. Were you there when they did that?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I would just want to be inside dryballs right now.
I like to be able to see that. That's super cool.
And I mean the record with Ringos again, it's so good,
and I my expectation was, let me just see. You know,
living here, you kind of second guess everything after a
while because you're going, what's authentic, what's the reason doing it?
(23:00):
Because Ringo doesn't need to do anything. No, he doesn't
need to do a single thing right, And I just
found it to be Wanner breath fresh air and not
contrived at all. No, it's not contrived and just very natural.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You know the thing about Ringo, he says, I'm in
the band, he's a musician. He's an honest to god musician.
And you can watch him play drums and you can
tell by the way he holds his mouth that he's
a musician, because you just know he's it's he's feeling
it and it's something that he you know. So he
(23:35):
became a massive international star, instant worldwide name recognition, all
of that stuff. But under that, who he actually is.
He's a musician. And you know, I personally love musicians.
I've lived my life among musicians, and I find them
to be well, I find them to be the hope
(23:55):
for the world. Actually, I mean the I if I
may go on for a moment, do you know string
theory when there's a song about this on Ringo's record,
But string theory says that all of the things we
see are the notes of the strings vibrating beneath them.
(24:17):
So if that's true, and I do, I buy that.
It it resonates with what I know about life. The
music is what we're all made of. We're actually we're
actually a song. We're in a song, and.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
And so we're all vibration.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We are all vibration.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
You'r quantum physics guy.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, actually yes, But but a little. I mean, you know,
I'm a hillbilly guitar player, but so I'm not gonna
put any fine jackets on myself. But you know, I
can't understand this stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I love string theory, like I'll read about that for days.
When you wrap up, its me up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, I love it too, But because I think it's right,
you know, I also I you know that I believe
that if the human race is going to be saved,
that it's the artists who are going to save it.
The religious people aren't. They're obviously completely losing their moorings
(25:15):
in every religion around the world is going crazy. The
scientists aren't going to do it. They're the ones screwing
everything up right now with their digital with their idea
of the binary universe where you can reduce everything to
plus or minus. The politicians aren't going to do it,
obviously because they're even going crazier than the religious people.
(25:39):
So like who's who's left. The business people aren't going
to do it. So it's it's if the race is
going to be saved, it's going to be the artists
who do it.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Then I'll go off for a second and just ask
this question that has nothing to do with what other
than what you're talking about, because I find that, even
being a bit of historian country music, but in music
in general, it seems like the most meaningful music comes
from when times are troubled.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Do you feel like we're getting there again, to.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
A time when we're going to have meaningful music.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
To a time where music will be made with an
absolute social purpose.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Well, you know, I would say it's all made to
a social purpose. But I know what you're I know
the question you're asking. Yeah, I think. Look, the story,
the story of the United States can be told through music, like,
for instance, the song there's a song that's been sung
(26:40):
for one hundred and fifty years or something. The most
recent version of it is Blowing in the Wind by Dylan.
Before that, there was a song called We Shall Overcome,
which is the same song which was written for a
social purpose before that, and that was in the forties.
We Shall overcap Come got written, Blowing in the Wind
(27:02):
was written in the early nineteen sixties. Then there was
a song called No More Auction Block. That's the same
song that was written after soon after the Emancipation Proclamation,
but before that, there was a song called Nearer my
God to Thee that was written in eighteen forty and
it's all the same song. If you how many roads
(27:24):
must a man walk down? We shall overcome no more
auction block for me, Nearer my God to the They're
all there's this melody, there's this American air that has
been repurposed again and again to pull the country together,
to bring people into harmony with each other. So yeah,
(27:49):
I do. I feel like if it's going to happen,
it's going to be music that does it. And I
do believe that that there are a lot of really
smart young artists who are emerging right now, and we'll
see who comes up with the song, because at the
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end of the day, it's all the song that matters.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Just two more questions. You mentioned you hadn't seen the
Bob Dylan movie yet, which I haven't either, and me
from a distance, like I've read Dylan's books obviously heard
all the music through all the versions. Again, haven't seen
the movie yet, But I also wasn't as close to him.
I didn't play with them like you did. I didn't produce.
So do you look forward to watching something you kind
(28:33):
of know the story to or you're like, man, if
I watch this, I'm gonna know some of it isn't
exactly accurate.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, I I'm not gonna watch it. I'm pretty sure
I won't see it.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Because so you're not gonna watch it?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
No, I probably, I mean I would have no. No,
I mean I love Bob.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And so you don't want to watch it and be like,
well that's not true, like you have your own Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
If I want to watch some something to personally, if
I want to watch something about a musician, I want
the actual musician.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
To be in it or to be a part of it. Yeah,
or which Barbara wasn't right, I mean he didn't. He
wasn't a part of the movie as they were making it.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
No, but no, what I want to actually see the
thing that they're talking about. I don't. I don't need
to have somebody talking head tell me about somebody. I'd
really just see what.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
He does with this album. When did you know you
were done?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Uh? I guess when when Ringo said it sounds good.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
That would be a good time to quit.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, Ringo's like, we're good. Did you cut any other
songs that aren't on the record. They didn't make the record,
you know I did.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
In fact, I've got about five or six more that
we may get into at some point because I kept writing.
I wrote, you know, I took nine out to him,
but there were probably another there're probably another ten in
the works right now. Five of them are finished.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So final, final question. My real name is not Bones.
My name's Bobby, but it's not Bones. My assumption is
your real name's not T Bone? Where did that come from?
Speaker 1 (30:09):
That's it. That's a neighborhood nickname. You know. I got
it when I was probably five or something or eight.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
When you signed things? Do you sign T Bone?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I signed TB one?
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, When did you decide to go with that? As
like your name?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I tried to shake it for decades and couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You know, well, I am a massive fan you. Thank
you such a fundamental part of my life through music,
and so it's a real treat to be able to
spend time with you for that reason. But also the
record's great, Like it really is great, And I didn't
have an expectation of it to be good or bad.
I didn't know, and it really is great.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I appreciate it. I love it too, and I love
Ringo and I love I love that he's gudding this
moment in his third act. It's very well deserved.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, thank you for the time. Everybody check out the album.
That's it awesome.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
The Bobby Cast. We'll be right back. This is the
Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Let's talk Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. We did
this last year and I did not know if I'd
be brought back in to vote again because we literally
let the panel pick my votes.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
But what was so cool about that was I watched
the whole ceremony and to see Dave Matthews up there,
I'm like, wow, we voted them in.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
That's pretty cool. Well, I only had one vote, so
we voted. We gave him a vote. So I'm back
in it. And so we'll go through the nominees and
so we'll pick five of them. Okay, who we're going
to vote for? So it's me, It's Eddie. It's our
friend who lived in Bakersfield. His voice is out, Hey,
say your.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Name, Hyatts.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
How's it going today? So he's like, should I talk
about I was like, well, you're expert, so you can
talk sparingly when you do your vote. Sure, how about that?
Why's your voice so bad? I just cold weather here
in Nashville this week. Yeah, let's talking. Who's your favorite
artist of all time?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Elton John? Wow? Do you know want to kiss me
on the mouth? I've heard that? Yeah, yeah, it's pretty awesome.
Never never forgot about it. Never washed his lips ever since.
I probably wouldn't either, won't wash them. He got my head.
I went right on off face. Why Elton John?
Speaker 7 (32:25):
You know, I just love the piano, the imagery and
his songs. And I know Bernie Toppin wrote the lyrics,
but just I mean some of the most iconic songs
of all time. Tini to answer Goodbye Yellow Brick Road,
your song? Just something about the way those songs hit
me is love him?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Your favorite artist is, Oh, it's gotta be Pearl Jam, Right,
gotta be Pearl Jam. But what were you thinking though, Well, well,
I've just you know, the older you get, the more
you start realizing that you love a lot of art.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
I love Bob Marley, I love Bob Dylan, I love
Jimmy Buffett, but I think Pearl Jam is definitely my favorite.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I'm in that same boat where I would go, well,
we just had t bow Burnette. So I'm like, I
love Counting Crows. It's my favorite band of all time. See,
I love them too, I know, so my favorite band
of all time. But then it's like John Mayer is
like my favorite artist. So I've had to pick one
of them, I'd probably still go Counting Crows if it's like,
what do I still listen to the most? Listen to
a lot of John Mayer, but Counting Crows are probably
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my favorite artist if I have to pick one.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
I listened to this is it? This desert life, This
desert Life. Yeah, on the way to work today.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
I don't know why. This is one of those things
where like I'm telling an underrated album Fishball in the Front.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
I wake up to a tune in my head every morning.
It's a different tune. I don't know why this happens,
but it happens. And hanging around was in my head
this morning. I'm like, I didn't listen to this album.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I've been hanging around this town on the corner. I
remember going to college. I was in college. I would
go home and listen to that record and play King
or Virginior Baseball on PlayStation at night after I finished work. Yeah,
I listen to that CD and then that was it
and play Knker Vir Junior baseball. God, it's so good, man,
those are the good old days when I was broken,
didn't know.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Dude even like Amy hit the atmosphere like that came on.
I'm like, I haven't heard this song in twenty years.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It's so good. We're gonna go through the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame nominees just for the record one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
fourteen nominees. Wow, we're gonna settle on five. Oh gosh,
that's tough. Up first and keep notes on your phone.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Bad Company. Bad Company is nominated for the Rock and
Roll Hall of Fame. If I say bad Company, what
I think of first is Bad Company till the day
I die. You know that song? Yeah, that's probably the
only one I can think of. I know. I have tons. Yeah,
you'll know more. But you're like like me, I did.
I couldn't assign them without looking at it. Then I
(34:43):
knew them, So I'll play you some of them. Do
you know anything, Brent before you pull them up?
Speaker 5 (34:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Okay, you will? Bad Company? Yeah, I will survive till
the day I die. Uh, you for sure will know
they don't do cold as I No, it's foreigner. I
think that cold his ice. So you'll know what is
this baby? When I think about you? They sing that song?
Think about I love that song and that song is
(35:14):
I feel like making? I feel like making. I had
no idea that was a bad company they're in. Yeah, okay,
how about so and you know we did bad company?
Like bad Company jam?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Okay? How about so for Nothing? Is this Ready for Love?
Hold on? Yep?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I heard it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And it picks up a bit. Well, I didn't find it,
but it's like Reddit for love Okay, okay, not a
big one. Okay one. Hey, Rae can come in here
too if he wants. We'll here to the studio just
playing music. We do want to a dang song just
hanging out? Yeah, come in jump on the hot podcast.
No read will surprise you though, He'll be like, yeah,
(36:16):
I know that one. You'll know this one.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Don't let.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Lots of ups on there. Cover. I don't think I've
ever heard that version, Like, is that is that the
Beatles cover? I know I was singing the Beatles in
I don't know that that's a I don't know that one. Okay,
so there wait again, our knowledge may not always be
tip top. And I didn't tell you guys who the
bands were, so for Like, I can't believe they don't
know this, okay.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
So what we're voters when we're looking at these bands
and listening to the music that we know, like how
cause like I love feel Like Making Love, like I
love that song and Bad Company and they're classic rock,
like this is like the to me, a classic rock
and I would immediately be like, put him in Man's
classic rock. But I really only know two songs.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
So okay, okay, you know more than that, So you
know Ready for Love you kind of knew that, knew
that you knew I Feel Like Making Okay, you probably know.
I mean when you hit Don't Let Me Down, Man
kind of threw me off, Like I guess I don't
really know this man, mm hmm. Shooting Star, Oh yeah,
(37:27):
I know this one. Yeah? Hold on, don't you know?
Don't you know that you are Shooting Star? Read? How
old are here? I am twenty eight years old? Now
(37:48):
this is older than we are too. So did you
ever do you know Bad Company? At all of those songs. Nope, okay,
no chance, Like dad didn't listen to him or anything
on vinyl. No, dude, he was a Beg's and Michael Jackson.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
Guy run rock and roll fantasy.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Okay, okay, dude, vote there. We're layered in. We're layered
in here. Let's see one more that sounds familiar. This
is called needed somebody. I don't know that one. Okay,
(38:26):
Bad Company? Do you know that one? So read You're
not gonna do anything. We're just gonna test now if
you know the artist at all, I'm gonna fail, but
I love it. So okay, there you go. That's number one,
Bad Company. Make your note. You can even like score
them one through five. Let's do that and we'll add
up our votes. Okay, so Bad Company, don't tell me
what it is boom any halves. No, that'll just complicate things.
(38:51):
Next up the Black Crows, and so I love the
Black Crows, so just as a personal taste, I love
the Black Crows now when they did Hard to Handle.
That is a cover, but it doesn't matter massive song
for them. Hey, hey, here, I am, who's the original
(39:16):
singer otis writing? John? I can give you what you
bomb bomb to get me. Hell, lad's opposite him like
a lot lads out. Hey, let me go.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
My mom.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Read you know that one?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I know that little last.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
You don't get a score. Oh I want to score. No,
you are a consultant to see how if they've okay,
I do that they've been able to still like exist
ten years after all.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
I love it. Okay.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
What's cool about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
is that this is when all members of the bands,
if they do get inducted, they get together again. Like
even if they broke up they hated each other. You
start seeing these like, oh wow, this is the first
time they've seen each other in twenty years. And with
the County with the Black Crows, you know they're drummer,
They don't. He's not part of the band anymore. This
(40:05):
is really the brothers and then whoever else joins the band.
The band now is just the two brothers and they
hit each other forever. Yes, so the band would get
back together. She talks to angels is epic.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
It's a you know this one? It said, Yeah, how
does that go? She never mentions the word addiction in
Sudden Company. Okay, how about this Uh, yeah, she talks
to angel. Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard that calls him
right by. You know that one. Yeah, she talks ag
that's it. There you go, Okay, there's that one. How
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about Remedy, So that's more of a it's almost it's
a beast. I think it was single for them, but
that one doesn't really plague a classic rock radio as
like a power.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
I don't know I've heard that one.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
You don't think you've heard it? Remedy Jealous again, it's
a jam jealous again. So with the Black Crows, I
don't think they have as many massive songs over the
body that Bad Company does. And the lead singer was
married to Kate Hudson, which was doesn't matter. It was
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kind of a power. You don't look at Joe Demagic.
Well he got with Marilyn Monroe. That given points though,
here's twice as hard. Oh damn dude, the first time.
All right, that's Black Crows. Put your score down. Read those?
Did you know any of those? I know that she
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talks to angels and you know that one little ditty
on the back of that. Are you doing your own scoring?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
No scoring?
Speaker 3 (41:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, he doesn't get a score he doesn't get scored.
Mariah Carey, she she's a five to me even though
it's on. That's just like an automatic one of the
five spots, because I mean, one of the biggest artists
of our lifetime period. Like I don't know any of
her songs. Every song it's the Christmas one, you know,
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hero for sure, like honestly a gun to my head.
I don't know if I can sing here some of them.
Dream Lover, Fantasy, that sweet sweet fantasy baby. Well then
your score can be low then oh always be my baby?
Know that one? What is this? That was always my baby?
(42:35):
Here's fantasy, sweet sweet fantasy baby? Really early, make it happen?
How about? You're not gonna know these I.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
Want to lose street cred, but I just don't know
these songs. I don't know where I was musically.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
I don't think it's street credit. Is streets happy? You
don't know? Like we belong.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Together like that one?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Ready this we belong together? Hero. There's a hero, And
all I could think of is Enrique gla hero and
my baby. Let me see, let me see there we go?
Oh yeah, you know, have to fake it. You're not
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gonna getddle school, in middle school, I guess I remember
hearing people play this. Okay, I always love Massive One
Sweet Day the Boys to Men. Yeah, sorry, I never
told Okay, the video they died like it's about death
shining down on me from heaven like so many no nothing, God,
(43:45):
that's crazy. Okay, that's wild. But but hey, Christmas jams though,
all right for Christmas? You like, of course I know
that one. It's just so many more, but you're not
gonna know them because you didn't know those. Well what
year was she? Well, she covered a lot of years,
early nineties, early two thousands, she kept putting. I think
I wasteen years. I was so grunged in that, so
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was I. But I still was like, right, you were
also were you working? No nineties, dude, I was like twelve.
I feel like you were working when you were twelve
years not at music? Okay, yeah, man, I think from
Riah Carey. Yeah, So do you want me to score
the way I did score? That's on me because I
assumed that you were intelligent. Okay, I'm kidding, like I
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should know that, but I just wasn't there. I'm listening
to that Chubby Checker now on the surface you're like,
of course it's like one hundred years old because he
had the twist, Let's twist, and then he had let's
twist again.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Oh that is wow, that's the sequel. Yeah, like what
happened in that story. They needed a sequel.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Because the twist.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
Come on, baby, let's do the twist.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
And then at the second then it's like, well, no, hits,
so let's do again. Let's twist again like we did
last summer the greatest hits. Well, let's twist again. Still
waiting for mambo number six? Limbo rock? Nah? You limbo song?
So chubby limb? Is this what they used for limbo? Maybe? Sound?
I just know the song? I used to do this
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at the Roller Ring. Yeah yeah, okay, jack Bumble be quick. Yeah,
I know that's Chubby Checker, so chubby. You can write
transfer on that one. Did Chubby do Blueberry Hill?
Speaker 1 (45:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Oh, I know why I mixed that Fat's Domino Fats.
Oh my god, my head. Obie Johnson, I got high
blood pressure. Wilson, geez ude, you are rude. Okay, Next up,
(46:00):
this is my head, dude, it's messed up. Next up,
Joe Cocker. Oh, so wonder would be the soul version
of you Oh So Beautiful? He did that one. He
also did what would you do If I sing out
of tune? We'll just end up and walk out on me.
(46:20):
So these are covers, yeah so, but oh wow, they're
both covers revolutionary because his voice was so scratchy and
and he would perform and it looked like he was
in so much pain when he would sing. I'm not
sure because those two songs are both covers. I'm not
sure which aren't covers. But I can tell you the
songs I know him for, like lift Us Up, Where
(46:43):
We Below? Yes, now huge jam, You are so beautiful
to me? That one's jam he played Woodstock. Yeah, because
he's in the the movie is why I know that
the documentary. He comes out of that and then I
give by a little help from my friends. Do you
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think we would have known that song? It one's for
wonder years because not his version. Maybe I think that
maybe even known the Beatles. I mean probaly would have
known the Beatles version, but it would have been near
as popular because that made that popular for us. I
mean the sound of what would You Do? It wouldn't
have been as known for sure. That's so cool. You
can leave your hat on as a jam you do,
(47:26):
I'm telling you classic rock. You'll know this. Held on,
let it get there. It's not that voice, man.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
He sounds like he is in pain.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
He looks like he's in pain when he's saying nothing.
Really No, it's his eighties kind of sounds. Eighties, probably
late seventies, eighties. You can't leave your hat on, okay, Crystal,
I don't think so. You can't be in that much
pain a thing like that, you know, And I feel
(48:05):
all right? This is feeling all right? Oh yeah, feel
all right. I was a jam man. I don't know
that I knew that was Joe Coxy. We'll get there.
Hold on, I keep missing the chorus whatever he died
(48:32):
in twenty fourteen, he did, Okay, So I think that's
pretty much. Is that it? I mean, he has other
massive songs like Unchanged my Heart with eighty seven million,
but I'm going super surface, no research here in my
heart that thinking. I don't know that I know there.
(49:00):
I don't know that one. Okay. Joe Cocker writes your
answer down there your point there. He died of lung
cancer seventy years old. I want to be smoked because
sometimes it happens like to the people people that are
just in rooms. Yeah, like yeah, exactly, the arousing lung
cancer because of my my aunt Billy Idol. Thanks that
he for taking us down. You had to make a
(49:21):
personal god dang and my cousin. Okay, dude, about your cousin,
Billy Idol, You're gonna know a.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Ton so yeah, white white wedding or weather rebel yell
she yo mo mo or moan and mone this one
money mooney, dude, that's so good.
Speaker 7 (49:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
yeah moan and mo good moan and mo.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, that's so good. He was in the wedding singer
too on yep, yep. Dancing on Myself's a big songs
from Billy Idole. Oh yeah, mm hmm you have. We
did rebel Yo eyes without a face. You'll know what
(50:14):
you won't know? That was the title though. I'll let
you know this. Oh rady you ever heard that one?
I've never heard that one, but with the rebel yea
we go, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
You can do that, Okay, Billy out to write Gordon
got it? This is tough man. What's tough because we
only have one through five.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
And then let's take a quick pause for a message
from our sponsor. Welcome back to the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Okay, next up, Joy Division or New Order. I'm gonna
be honest with you. They ain't getting a vote from
me because I don't know. I'm you're gonna know like
a couple songs. I'm ignorant on their catalog. So I'll
do Joy Division their number one song, Leveill Tear Us Apart.
Yeah you'll know this. No, No, I think my brother
(51:25):
listened to stuff. That's kind of why I know it.
If there's a song that I'm not knowing, I just
don't know enough to even hit play on it. This
is called disorder. Yeah, I can't see them making them.
Be honest with you. I know you don't even want
to got this. I don't even know. I'm not put
them on the list because they're not gonna. I don't
want to set them up for another failure. Is the
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scoring system zero or one one? Cindy Lpper girls just
want to have fun. I just want to have fun.
So if I type in Cindy Lopper good enough time
after time, No, that's person. So that for her one
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billion streams. Girls just want to have fun. On Number
two is time after time music. I was, and I
will find you time after time like used in like
some maybe Bridesmaids, that's Wilson, Phil's froably some day somebody.
But that's not them. The point is that what it is,
(52:28):
That's what I was thinking of. How about this one?
I see your true cut shine through? And she was
on wrestling too when she was when she was don't
be afraid to let them show.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
True.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
But you can cover that one. I love it all
through the night if I know this one? No, not enough? Okay,
So those are the biggest, biggest good Enough's none there
the goonies, the goonies, that's what. That's what. It's not
her top.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
Good enough.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I don't know good enough if if that's the thing,
it's not even ten million. Oh yeah, yeah man, it's
not even on her list. So anywhere thirty in that's
Are you sure she sings it? Maybe there's like a
record like a Master's Owner issue there. Well, but if
(53:29):
she's saying it, she would still Okay, what's it called
good enough? Yeah, Cydney Lapper good enough? Okay, it's called
the Goodies are the Goonies letter are good Enough? Okay
is just for the movie. The title of its the
Goonies are good Enough. You know this.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
I love it, dude.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
I've never seen the Goonies. Don't think I don't know,
go to the course to the Course. I've never seen
the Goonies. Yeah, but it's like it's like I don't
know that. It's like Huey Lewis and Power Love same
do ye. No, that's great. You don't compare that to
(54:05):
you the Power because that became a hit by itself,
but that was for the movie too. I think it
actually says Goony's in the song though. I think she goes, Okay,
Cyndy Lapper, Okay, we have like six more. I don't
even know this. Next artist m a n Ana Mexican.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
Yeah, Mexican artists from Mexico and dude so good. Pull
up some of the Mexican Mexicans. It's like Mexican reggae.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Dude. This is part of like all my say me
and Moore No Do Rayondo l Soul Novendo that one.
Speaker 6 (54:46):
He goes, oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean that internationally
probably huge to us for you all.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Don't even know that, Mike, do.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
You know that is?
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I know where they are. They're huge. Well, you guys
are from like Mexican families though, yeah, look at the
color of my skin.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
I know they are.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
I put them at five. Oh my okay, but no, no,
I don't think I'm gonna give them a one, but
we can score them. I just don't know them. So yeah, Oasis,
Oh oh yeah, they are finally back together. They're touring Oasis. Dude,
I'm just gonna tell you, guys, because again this is
(55:29):
selfish my love of Oasis. They're a five for me.
Me too, like me too. It's like the first song
I learned. You guys don't understand music didn't sound like
this when this came out. That's a good point. It
was very different, and when it came when Wonderwall came out,
like who is? Like what is? This is so cool
because after you know my wonder Wall. One of my
(55:49):
favorite songs of their singles is don't look back at Anger,
So Sally can't wait. She knows it's too late as
my work. You know, Champagne super Nova in a Champagne
super Nova, do you know, uh, don't let back an anger?
Read I know Champagne super That's not what I asked.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
No, I don't know this one. Well actually maybe.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Drums. I know it just because of the drugs.
Speaker 2 (56:31):
Sally came away. God's so good. Yeah, they got a
five for me. Yeah, I mean probably don't have the
overall library like I love livet Forever. It wasn't a
massive song for them, like a big American single. I mean,
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my wife and I discuss going to their their show there,
like first big festival show back in England because she
likes them right well, but she didn't know of them.
She didn't know them. They went viral on TikTok for
getting back together. She's like, these guys are funny. They
started to listen to the music. She's like, do you
want to go to the one? And I forgot what
city they're from, Farming, But at the first show she
was gonna go to the festival show. Yeah, And I
was like, I don't I love them, but I gotta
(57:17):
one here. It's a long flight, long flight back. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (57:20):
So so when they broke up though, did Noel Noel right,
Noel Gallagher, he just keep making Oasis music.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
They both no no, no, no, no nobody did Oasis really, Yeah,
one had High Flying Noel and Liam. When they split,
there was no Oasis.
Speaker 6 (57:35):
No more Oasis because I remember Noel just keep playing music.
I guess he was just doing his own music.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
They both played songs, but I think Noel had Noel's
High Flying Bird. Let me say, hold on, Nol Gallicer
didn't mean to put you on the spot band high
Flying Birds. Okay, so no band Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds.
(58:02):
Gotta knew that? And Liam bad I is that? Who
it is BDI that has Liam's band BDI two thousand
and nine to twenty fourteen. I gotta I'm not as
familiar as bad I as I am high Flying Birds.
But both of them they were just fine. It just
sounds like half Oasis. They didn't have each other. Yeah,
(58:23):
and we listen. One was the lead singer, one was
the guitar, grapher and creator behind it, so like you
couldn't really do it without both of them, which is
kind of odd because mostly you can do bands with
that lead like if you want to change the lead singer,
that's tough, or the leads, but the leadsicker can go
by himself and do it couldn't do that really, unless
he's just singing the old songs because the other brothers,
the one who wrote him, Yeah, crazy, Okay, write your
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score on there. Oh I got it. I'm already done,
me too. Outcast a lot of songs. Yeah, and if
you wanted to go the most the most pop part
of it was that when they put out Speaker Box
Love Blow Album, it was a double album. Andrea three
thousand and did one of them and Big Boy to
the other, and it was basically two albums by two
(59:04):
different people. But they still was an Outcast record. But hey,
y'all was on that one. It's huge. Shake it, shake
it like a polaroid picture. Hey, ladies, Before that, like
Miss Jackson was massive and then ain't nobody bay. I'm
still so fresh, so clean. I like the way you move.
(59:26):
I like old school almost all the way old school
but not totally old school. Was dust that does everybody
moved to the back of the bus. That was Rosa Parks,
which I was a fan. I was a fan of.
I was an early outcast. Uh huh bust that bus.
(59:48):
Everybody moved to the back of the bus. That's that
one's so cool? Uh bombs over back, Dad. Bob bombs
over back Dad. There you go, drums. So that's old school.
We met give me him. I met undred thousand and
(01:00:09):
airport in another country once. That's right, very briefly, and
I was just like, I'm a big fan, thank you,
so by meat him. No, not really, Roses, God, Roses
was awesome. Oh yeah, ditch Rose smell like roses really
(01:00:39):
smell like. I don't know that one. Okay, write them down?
Four left, three left, Fish. Oh man, this is Fish.
I'm not gonna know any songs zero, but I know
like their cultural impact.
Speaker 6 (01:00:54):
They were like the sun of great great fish heads. Yeah,
those are the people that followed them from city to city.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
So if I'm voting on this, I'm just voting on
like personal I don't know enough of Fish's stuff, but
I do understand their impact. But they're not going to
be a top five for me because I'm not as
educated on Fish. Let's see if I know any songs, dude,
I don't know any of these. Oh nope, I mean
(01:01:24):
not a radio band. No no, no, right, jam band,
touring band, fan base band, like that's it. Yeah, sound Garden,
come on, two left, come on, dude, Sound garden again.
You're now you're in my wheelhouse a little bit more,
which I'm going to be a bit unfairly biased because
this is what I listened to growing up. Black Hole,
sun O, you come wash away the Rain Rain? I
(01:01:50):
think it's is it you wash away rain? I think
you watch away the rain? You watch away the pain rain.
Let's see that makes sense, though, sun wash away the Rain.
I mean that's more than pain. I think I just
hurt when I sing it, So I think it's pain
and Chris Cornell a lot of pain. I don't know
the words of any songs, though, I think in the
(01:02:13):
music video the rain gets to walk the words. That's
only a let merry wine. Nice is the rain? It
(01:02:43):
is the rain, the rain, spoon man, dude, jam Fell
on black Days. There you go. It's feel long, awesome,
long time so good.
Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Bam.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
There you got's some rich jam Fell alone Like personally,
I love them. I'm gonna tell you I I did.
I don't think they're rock and roll Hall of fame
right now.
Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
Once there's there a better time. A couple more hits
and they make they're done, their.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Late singers dead. A couple more, but write your thing down.
I'm a big fan of like three or four songs,
but I may surprise you the score. Okay, and you
know their their drummer is now pearl Jam drummer. No,
why would I know that or care That's that's to
go into your voting. I will not let it. And
then finally, the white stripes now not Jack White. Yeah,
(01:03:47):
just white stripes, just white stripes Jack and his wife excellent. No,
it's their name white, uh because they were both white, right,
like Jack White and Karen White. Karen, No, it's not Karen.
I don't know. I don't want to say Amy. No,
Meg Meg Meg is good job, Okay, White strips obviously,
(01:04:11):
Seven Nation Army. I mean it's huge. Every band in
college football plays it. This song is so big. That's
gotta be a consideration, like having a song that has
not really lost popularity and has grown and popular in
other places of the world like sports. How about I
fell in Love with the Girl here read on that one,
(01:04:40):
huh and read it was just there was just two
of them. It was just him and his wife play
drums and he played all guitar. That's crazy, and everything
was candy cane them. So who played the bass. There
was no bass he did. He kind of lowered the
towne on those guitar. We're gonna be friend, yeah, Jack
(01:05:01):
Johnson did it later. Yeah, but this is originally White Truck.
I can say there, we are gonna be friends. Ikey thumb.
Oh that's so good. I was a fan, so I
know some of these is like not even like big
radio songs. Okay, in so many movies, dude, what that like?
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah? That song seven Nation Army.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
All they okay? Our final tabulation, Oh that was the
last beIN the last one. Wow, those are always up
for Let's see what we get here. So i'lly all
your score out. Bad Company Brent three four okay, Bad
company total score of ten. The Black Crows two three four,
(01:05:45):
So that's nine four and three is seven nine stupid
this next one? Oh okay, so I want to do
ten here nine here. Mariah Carey five five one eleven. Hey,
that's what it is. Read do my background on my numbers?
Got you Hubby Checker.
Speaker 8 (01:06:07):
Three, Shabby two three eight, Joe Cocker three three three
it is Billy Idol five three three eleven. I'm going
to give the top five of my votes for the
rock and Hall of Fames. We're just we're literally deciding
(01:06:30):
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Cindy Lapper five three? Did you skip Joy Division?
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I didn't think they were okay, Joy Division one. Okay. See,
that's why I don't want to bring it back, because
I got a low rating. I got, I got you,
Cindy Lapper five three three Big Fan over there?
Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Oasis two?
Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Wait Oasis? You skipped my NA now one. I know
I wanted to put them up there because the're for
sure losing. I do have three from my now until
on you I got a one? Would you give them two? Yeah?
There were some I skipped over on purpose because why
bring them back in just to get beat down? You
know I got I got you? No, no, no way.
Oasis is a four you four five five for me?
Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Okay? So fourteen okay? Out Cast five four four thirteen.
You want to let to skip the next one? What's
the next one? Fish? Yeah? I get fish and one
just from one okay one two, Sound Garden three three five,
(01:07:34):
Black Holes, Sun eleven okay. And then finally White Stripes
four five wow, White Strips. I didn't take my personal
bias out of it. I don't feel like they have
the catalog to make rock and a Hall of fame. Okay,
So what'd you have?
Speaker 7 (01:07:50):
Four?
Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
It's eleven nine five Okay, so we got our top
five here. The number one score is Oasis. They are
getting a boat. Let's go ye send them okay, Oasis.
And then we have one, two, three, four, We have
five with eleven. No outcast is thirteen, I think, so
outcast is in with thirteen, send them Oasis of fourteen.
(01:08:14):
Outcast at thirteen. And then with elevens we did Joe Cocker,
we did nine. So with elevens we have Mariah Carey,
Billy Idol, Cindy Lapper, Sound Garden, white stripes. So we
got to pick three of these. Okay, I don't My
white stripe score was solo. Anybody with the two shouldn't
(01:08:36):
get in. Okay, I can agree to that. Yeah, So
white strips out, white stripes out. So we have Mariah Carey,
Billy Idol, just Sandy Lapper, Sound Gardens and Mariah just
do it. Mariah should be I'm an idiot. I was
sleeping those years, okay, Mariah. So now we have Billy Idol,
Cindy Lapper, and sound Garden, and we can only pick one,
(01:08:58):
we can pick two. Which one of the three would
you pick? Right, Billy Idol, Eddie. I mean, out of
those three, I'd go Billy Idol. It wins anyway, because
if I'd have picked anything else, Billy out still wins. Okay,
So Billy Idol's in. And then it's either gonna be
Cindy Lapper or sound Garden. I'm gonna pick again, I
(01:09:21):
to my bias out of it, I'm gonna pick Cindy Lapper.
I think she has bigger catalog of songs that have
transcended longer. That's why I would also go Cindy Lapper.
If I'm gonna pick to listen to something, it's going
to be sound Garden. But I'm gonna go Cindy Loppers.
And what would you pick? Sound Garden? Soundgarden? Yeah, I'm
gonna go by bias included sound Garden. Okay, do it
(01:09:42):
for Chris. So here's what we have, Oasis Outcast, Mariah Carey,
Billy Idol, and Cindy Lapper. It's pretty solid. That would
be the vote for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Ye,
it's a pretty solid five. I feel bad for Manna
whatever don't know it, but that's okay. They expected that.
I only don't know it because I I'm complete white
bread South. It was very regional to the world. Oh,
(01:10:04):
thank you for the history here. Okay, I think that'll
do it. Read thank you for your post.
Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Of course, man, I love all those bands.
Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Do you love them enough? You don't know any of
the bands Oasis and Cindy Opera were up there for me?
You know Outcast?
Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
I did no Outcast? So those were the three? Did
they all make it? Three made it? They're in there
bad company. You weren't here for bad company. No, I
was not here, but you do know a bad company
till the day I die. Okay, Well, thank you guys,
Thank you mansank you, thank you for allowing us to
be part of your If I were to have just
picked without you guys, I think I would have gone
(01:10:44):
see if they match Oasis, Outcast, Mariah Carey, Black Crows,
Joe Cocker just looking at Oh wow, you wouldn't put
Billy Idol in there. Yeah, but once we played it
and sort of listen, I think that added like some
perspective of looking at the songs. But those would have
(01:11:05):
been the fire fight just checked off, but I like
where we are. Think we ended up going to place Oasis.
Outcast Mariah Carey, Billy Idol, Cyndi Lauper, all right, that
is it, Mike were good, We're good, all right, that
is it. Thank you guys for listening and we will
see you guys soon.
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