May 23, 2023 • 28 mins
Careful planning that ensures a consistently good mood = curating anticipatory joy. Kat is all about this, but Amy is a proud type B and isn't trying to control or plan out her fun/joy. Anticipatory joy is so important to Kat's well-being that she plans her life in such a way that she almost always has something to look forward to!! Are you like Kat or like Amy??
Speaking of planning things, Kat is working on her bachelorette party and Amy is feeling her "Coastal Grandma" theme. They want it to be cool and a good time, but also not be out late, as that would result in exhaustion upon return and nobody has time for that. ha.
QUOTES FROM THIS EPISODE:“People are just as wonderful as sunsets if you let them be. When I look at a sunset, I don't find myself saying, "Soften the orange a bit on the right hand corner." I don't try to control a sunset. I watch with awe as it unfolds.” ― Carl R. Rogers
"Anticipatory joy is often greater than the joy brought to us by experiencing the very things we anticipate. This is often because what we expect an experience to be like is often not what it's like and the difference between our expectations and reality mutes our experiential joy. But it's also because anticipating a pleasure is itself intrinsically pleasurable." ― Psychology Today
"Did you know a loving, connected conversation with someone will turn on genes that shut off inflammation? Your mind is the most potent pharmacy ever , and it will either drive inflammation or it will stop inflammation simply by your thoughts." ― Dr. Mark Hyman
EMAILS: April reminding us to not downgrade big things that we're doing in life!! From this note Amy & Kat realized that they both ran the same exact St. Jude half marathon/full marathon back in 2013 before they ever even knew each other!
- Lauren who gave us a good whey protein recommendation that is lactose free so Amy doesn't have to only use her "goat's whey" powder! This leads to a memory from Amy's college days and a weird bet she made with her college boyfriend that involved a protein powder oatmeal situation.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and today's quote is well from Cat.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I want to say this guy is the father of psychology.
I could be wrong. I learned this a long time ago,
but I do know he was somebody that was very
important in the beginnings of therapy. His name is Carl Rogers.
Have you heard of him?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah? You have? Huh? Really, I feel like you're right,
father of psychology.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That sounds right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Okay, you read it, I'll google.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay. So he says people are just as wonderful as
sunsets if you let them be. When I look at
a sunset, I don't find myself saying soften the orange
a bit on the right hand corner. I don't try
to control a sunset. I watch with awe as it unfolds.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I love that. So Carl Rogers, Yes, he is one
of the founders of humanistic psychology.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, not the father of psychology.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
That's his name starts with a W because I looked
that up first. But then, let me see if you
recognize this sky. Willhelm Lunt Wundt is his last name. Okay,
William James. I've never heard of this Man, I googled
father of psychology, and he's who came up. But anyway,
nobody probably really cares about any of this.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Are we sure that it's not Freud?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It says here is Freud the father of psychology?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Maybe it's maybe there's two fathers, because.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
He's the founder of psychoanalysis and one of the most
influential doctors of the twentieth century century. He introduced new theories,
changed the way people thought, and left an impact on
the field of psychology.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh okay, William Want is the founder of psychology as
a science. I think Freud is the father of psychology.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Okay, So now you know, anybody listening, if you ever
get this in a pop quiz or a trivia game,
now you know.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I had a.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Screenshot of a quote on my phone. It's more so
just to go with our our way of thinking. It's
from doctor Mark Hyman, and I guess he had posted
on Instagram one day, and I guess I liked it
because I took a screenshot. Did you know that if
you have a loving, connected conversation with someone, it will
turn on genes that shut off inflammation your mind is
the most potent pharmacy ever and it will either drive
(02:12):
inflammation or will stop inflammation simply by your thoughts. I
love knowing that a loving, connected conversation with someone is
all it takes.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That's all it takes.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I feel like I'm having that with you right now.
Maybe people feel like they're having it with us if
they're listening right now.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Does everybody feel less inflaming?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, make the inflammation go down. I don't know if
I'm inflamed still from Austin, but I went there for
my heart Country fest, and it took me like a
week and a half to recover. Forty two years old
and staying up until two thirty in the morning is
not recommended any longer in my mind, because I used
(02:51):
to be able to do that and it was okay ish,
and now it is just not okay. There is nothing
about it that is okay. I was miserable for days
and days and days. And it makes me think about
your bachelorette party, because you sent out this text trying
to plan it, and some of your friends were calling
it and I say, your friends, because these are your
(03:13):
You have everybody on the group text, but some of
them I don't even know which is normal in friend groups,
but they were calling the trip coastal grandma vibes because
potentially in Charleston. But You're like, I don't want to
stay out too late. I don't do anything. We don't
have to go out. We can have someone cook at
the house. And I'm like, that's what I'm talking about.
And then I called you and I was like, look,
(03:34):
I just don't want to come home tired. And all
of that stemmed from iHeart in Austin because I stayed
up way too late and for the first time ever,
my twelve year old son stayed up until two thirty.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
People thought that was cool.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Those coolest things ever happened. And of course the next
day he was okay, and then by Monday he was
a monster.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I paid for that. They say, you suffer two days,
not the day after you lose the sleep the day
after that. Yes, that is so, that makes sense. True.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That is my experience, both sleep and soreness.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
If I work out soreness, yes, but you don't worry.
The bachelor at trip will be grandma vibes, but also cool.
That's what I asked for. And then they said this
sounds very coastal grandmay. Yeah, I is actually very in
right now it is.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I can't wait to pick out my coastal grandma outfit.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's so trendy.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I told my sister I wanted some coastal grandma flower
pillows added to this. One room that she's helping me
with has very like South Texas vibes, and it's pretty masculine,
and I'm like, can we throw in some like grandma chic. Yes,
there's like some plaids and some a lot of rustic
(04:43):
things and wood. And I said, just a little like
two pillows maybe here or there. And of course I
looked it up and the ones that I was drawn
to are very like vintagey flower colors that would have
been on my grandma's couch or something.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So, speaking of your bachelorette party, you made a comment
downstairs before we came up. We're at Kat's house recording this.
By the way, most of the time I would say,
we're at my house, but we're here in your podcastroom
on your couch where you record couch talks because you
have to do it on a couch obviously, And you said,
I'm paraphrasing. You can correct me, but what I heard
(05:20):
was I kind of don't want my wedding to happen,
because then what am I going to look forward to
in life?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's literally what I said, And I thought, oh, and.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You had handed me like three minutes before you said that.
You handed me a magazine. You're like, you should subscribe
to this. It's really good, and I was like, oh, yeah,
this is good. What magazine is it? And it's Psychology today.
I wonder if is it written bry freid.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wilhelm. I don't think that they're alive to write anything. No,
they're definitely not.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But I started flipping through it and there is a
whole article about leveraging anticipatory joy, and it's what you
were saying, is like, basically, let me read you this
paragraph from it. Anticipating joy is frequently greater than brought
to us by experiencing the very things we anticipate. This
(06:11):
is often because an experience does not live up to
our expectations, and the difference between those expectations and reality
mutes are experiential joy. But it's also because anticipating a
pleasure is itself intrinsically pleasurable. So like you are enjoying
looking forward to your wedding, and that is almost bringing
(06:34):
more pleasure potentially than your actual day.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, which that makes me sad. The part that's like,
the things don't usually live up to your expectations. That's
not usually a fear of mine. I don't think I
have unrealistic expectations, especially for my wedding, and I would hope.
But I love a vacation, a party, an event. I
love having something on my calendar that I'm excited to
(06:59):
get to.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Oh my gosh, this article is literally for you. Having
something to look forward to is obviously not the sole
determinant of a mood, but it clearly exerts a powerful influence,
powerful enough that when a mood falls and you're not
sure why, maybe ask yourself. Is the reason? Because you
don't have anything to currently look forward to?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, that's literally Okay. When I went to New York
with Patrick in February, the reason we did that is
because after all the stuff from the holidays, you know
how the holidays are so full of parties and family
and experiences, and I said, we have nothing to look
forward to right now? Can we plan something? So we
just picked a weekend and planned a trip. That's why
(07:39):
not because we really wanted to gowhere and that trip
was awesome. But that was so satisfying to me, and
it helps I think with feeling like especially for me
because my job can be the same kind of every day.
I go and I see clients, I leave, I go
and see clients, I leave, and so it puts some
like things to shake up your life so life doesn't
feel mundane. I highly recommend people filling out their calendar.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
This is the seven and you talking. I highly recommend
just you know, seeing what comes your way and decide
if you want to go very different, very very different.
So leveraging antspiratory joy, careful planning can ensure a consistently
good mood.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So that's you.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You are curating a good mood, good mood. You're welcome
through your calendar and like, let's see your bachelorette party
coming up. I'll put that in for January of twenty
twenty four. Okay, I have something to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I'm good, I feel nice.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, and then your wedding will be again in February.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So two things.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Wow, twenty four is filling up fast. I wouldn't have
anything else crazy that you're next year. I have an
email from a listener named April. Embrace yours because it's
a very sweet email. Okay, okay, I loved reading it. Hi, besties,
(09:07):
that's what she's calling us.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Great.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
My kids think it is very weird for me to
claim y'all as my besties, but I feel like you
guys are. I began listening to your podcast about a
year ago. Your lighthearted sense of humor reminds me of
my own. I'm so happy I found you because we
shoult that in quotes. Just ran a half marathon together. Well,
I ran it while listening to you guys chatting about
all the things. During my training I listened to your podcast.
(09:32):
Everyone thought it was weird that I didn't have a
playlist to pump me up. Your laughter with Kat just
made me forget about the long run that I had
ahead on training days. So on race day, my faithful
fun besties were with me. Everyone would say you have
the best smile as I passed by them, and it
was because of you and Kat. So I just wanted
to say thank you for the gift that you've sent
(09:53):
out into the universe. Your podcast has helped me to
believe in myself and realize that I can do hard
things in life. I can do big things too. I
told people before that I was just running a half marathon.
Then I heard your podcast about not downgrading big things
that you're doing in life. So a few weeks ago
I decided to stop saying just a half marathon and
(10:15):
started saying proudly, I am running a freaking half marathon.
Thank you for speaking the truth into my life and
inspiring me with your stories, encouragement and awesome quotes that
speak to my heart. Keep doing what you're doing because
y'all are bright light throughout my work week. Take care, besties,
and hope to meet you guys at the next live
come to North Carolina. And one more thing, have the
(10:38):
day you need to have by.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Ye wow and wait. I especially like that because April,
I'm with you that I haven't been a runner in
two years. But I used to be a big runner.
And when I ran, I always listened to podcasts always,
and I would save up. It was really hard. I
would save up the episodes that I really wanted to
listen to for days I was going to run. And
(11:01):
when I ran the last race I ran, I saved
like four episodes up and it actually made me look
forward to the race for another reason, and it's to me,
it's different than music. You forget that you're running because
you're having a conversation with your besties.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
When I was a runner, podcast didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Exist, so you have like a book on tape.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I didn't have that option.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I did you like, have a walkman, need to carry
it with mede. No.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
The last race that I ran that the last last
half marathon that I ran was two thousand and thirteen.
I did the Saint Jude Rock and Roll half. Yeah,
so ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
There was podcasts back then, they probably just weren't as
popular to listen to, right, That's when like cereal and
that kind of stuff came out.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Okay, yeah, I mean the Bobby Bone Show. We would
upload stuff to.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You don't want to listen to yourself on your well.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
No, I mean I'm just thinking back of my brain,
like you're right. Podcast didn't exist, but that I didn't even.
I only did that because my running friends from Austin,
Heather and Jessica, came in town and they wanted to
do it, and I didn't train, and it was pouring
down rain that year away like mon soon.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I ran it that. That's when I ran my first marathon, okay,
And I had to throw my head my headphones, and
because of the rain, it was I was afraid I
was gonna bet elextrocuted. I So I saw my sister
like the third mile, and I chucked my headphones and
my phone at her and I ran for four hours
with no sound.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
What was your marathon time?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Like three fifty six or something. I could never do
that today. This was what ten twelve years ago?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
It was exactly ten. It's twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh okay, yea, but yes, that the rain.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
But yeah, I did that in the rain, and I
didn't really train. And I hurt my knee because you know,
in the rain too, your arthritis kicks in. And I
have an other knee injury from when I did a
marathon in college, giving me Grandma five my heartritis in college.
I'm trying to think I would listen to like I
had a little walkman that went around my arm, and
(13:04):
I could listen to FM like I would listen to
you know, the radio station.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Did you have to like change the station as you
I guess the same station will work.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh here's another thing I remember, Actually I did get
a an MP three player of some sorts. This is
before the iPod existed. I would download music from napster.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Oh in LimeWire. Did you use timelire?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, so that's how I ran. I ran. I was illegal. Yeah,
you're breaking the law jamming out. But my marathon time
was like four hours and thirty minutes time.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Still really fast, you don't think, so will you beat me? So? Okay,
well I couldn't do it today. Good for you. And
it's not it's not a race. I mean it is
literally a race.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, but I have zero desire to do any kind
of fun runs anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I think that if I were I don't have a
desire to do that right now. But if I think
if I were to run a race like that again,
I would enjoy it more because I know longer care
about the time. Back then, the time was very important.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Well, let's put someone on your calendar. Well, I don't
know if that's what I want to look forward to
fill it up every Saturday.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You and Patrick are like, he would be so mad
at you if I did this and you started it.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But y'all wake up on Saturday mornings and go do
the capital steps, which are brutal.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That feels different. It's not hours of running. It's like
you run a little bit, then you do something else.
You run a little bit and we get bagels after.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
But even just running those stairs once. When I see
y'all posting it, especially now that it's warming up, I think, no,
they're crazy. What are y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well, he doesn't really like it, Just so you.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Know, I have zero interest in that. Which speaking of
working out or not working out, you can have protein
powder whenever you want. But you know how I was
telling you about the goat way. Yeah, and it's just
the ingredient is just got way or what way protein.
I got an email from Lauren, who's hook and us up.
(15:00):
I may have to order this because she says it's good.
I got an email from Lauren, who's hooking us up.
I may have to order this because she says it's
good not hooking us up with like protein.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I was like, I don't really know if I want
the goat protein.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But this is a suggestion.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's not goat.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
But she said, hey, Amy, I listened to the episode
from May sixteenth today, and you were talking about the
goat protein powder, and I wanted to share the protein
that I have been using. It's called iconic protein. They
are away protein isolate, but lactose free. I also avoid
dairy because I don't think I digest lactose well. But
the lactose free powder does not bother my stomach. The
(15:45):
powder tastes pretty good. I like to add it to
homemade oatmeal. And did I say oatmeal? Weird oatmeal?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now you didn't say it weird way, No, I was
gonna say, I've never thought about protein powder in my oatmeal.
That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh, back in the day trigger alert. I don't know.
This was in my very very very disorder days, but
it may not. You could do this thing healthy, but
I was not doing it healthy. I did body for life.
Have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, that sounds I'm already. I got a flag.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I was red flag. I was in college. I bought
the book at Barnes and Noble as a book. I
don't even know that they had a website. Really aging
myself with this. My boyfriend at the time bet me
one hundred dollars that I couldn't complete thirty days of
it or something. Because I am type B. I give
up on things and it's fine, I don't have to
(16:35):
complete it. I saw our friend Lisa Haym post something
the other day about how she gave up on one
of her peloton workouts to go start a yoga thing.
She was just working out at home, and she was like,
I'm a proud Type BEE and I have no problem
quitting that hiking class to go over here and finish
some yoga. And I'm like, oh my gosh, that's me
and I'm going to start embracing it more. Speaking of,
(16:57):
you know, not downgrading, you're like I should be.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's an asset A proud Yeah, Type B, you can
let go of things that aren't working for you.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But as a Type B, I have to admit that
I feel inadequate when I see Type a's and they're
all proud Type A, Like I'm Type A. I have
to finish that. I'm like a good for you Type A,
you know. But back to me being a Type B
and not finishing things. My boyfriend at the time didn't
think I could finish it. And what you did you
(17:25):
had to go like hardcore for five days and then
you could take the weekend off or something, or you
had one cheat day. So maybe it was six days hardcore,
one cheat day, I mean, and he was right. I
didn't get the hundred dollars. Like I lasted a couple
of weeks. But we even as a couple with some
of our other college friends, like took a road trip
somewhere in South Texas to someone's ranch, and I like
(17:45):
packed all of my food. Oh, red flag, red flag.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It was horrible. But then like when my free day came,
because it was like on Saturday, I had to do
it because I was with him, and I had to
wake up and do this running exercise and so everyone's
sleeping in because they hung out the night before. We
went to get Mexican food the night before, I couldn't
have a margarita. Thinking back, this was so miserable, but
I really wanted to get the hundred dollars and prove
(18:10):
to him that I could do it. And then Sunday
came around and I don't know if someone had brought
Girl Scout cookies, and like I basically ate every single
one because I was like free day. But you know,
that's that's how it works. But in the Body for
Life program, back to the oatmeal, one of the one
of the recipes. Was oatmeal with protein powder and a
(18:32):
scoop of peanut butter with a little bit of milk
or something on top.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And it was so good. That actually sounds pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, so it was regular oatmeal, chocolate, protein powder, a
scoop of peanut butter, and then milk on top.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I have all those ingredients. I'm gonna try that, not
gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
It was good, like I could carry that over to
something now, I'm gonna try maybe like I carry that
over to a meal that I would actually eat now,
or maybe I should even try to for my kids.
Sometimes it's so hard to get them protein and maybe
they would even like it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
When oatmeal is kind of like a bit, you have
to put something in it to make it taste good.
So I usually do a bunch of fruit, but peanut
butter and protein batter. I'll try it. That sounds just
like a This doesn't sound good. I wanted to say
chocolate porridge.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, it doesn't sound good. Well, back to her her email,
she said, homemade oatmeal meal.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Okay, now you're saying weird, Okay, because.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Now I'm nervous. Homemade oatmeal, homemade oatmeal with or pancake batter,
which is an easy way to get protein or vanilla.
Hers is the she likes the vanilla one. They she
said they also make tasty shakes. I love your podcast
and keep up the awesome work.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I hope you have the day you need to have.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh, both of them said that both emails, so Lauren,
and then she sent the website and it's like drink
iconic dot com. So anyway, I might have to check
that out because the plain goat is it is not
doesn't have the vanilla, so it's not sweet. What I
have found is it works well in savory, which I
think I told you that.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But if that is so weird to me, I don't
want to put protein.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
But you can't tell you stirred in and I can't
tell that it's in there. It just tastes like a
little bit of like a put a little bit of goat,
like a goat walked by, you know how Lacroix. The
joke is that it's like the licory truck just drove
past some oranges or something and it has a hint
of orange.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh, I don't know that was a joke, but that's good.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I don't even know if I'm saying it correctly. But
it's like the goat go just walk by, like some
goat cheese just happened to be nearby.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Walk by your salad?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Hint?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Is that what you're putting it on? Like a salad?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
No in a hot bowl like a rice and beans
and okay, I sprinkle it. So anyway, Vanilla Protein Lovers
from Iconic, which we love. Oh dang, I just went
to the website. So sold out? Oh really dang, notified
me even available? But you know what, sold out makes
you want something even more.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That means that people are loving it and it's good, right.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, it makes you think that.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But what if they only want to really sold out? Right?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Or they know that this is marketing at its finest. Yeah,
they're smart, and then it makes you want to click
on it. It makes me want more. And now I'm like, dang,
this must.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Be really good. But chocolates sold out too.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I don't know. I bet if you hit notify me
an available, we put in our email address and then
we get tomorrow and they're like, guess what, Yeah, there's
one in.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Stock for you.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Order here, And I'd be like, okay, sure, no problem.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Marketing.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I don't know if it's still going to be going
on by Tuesday when this loads, but it's only a
few days away. But the my snail stuff, I don't
have a code for that anymore. Hopefully i'll get another
one later this year. But someone's asking me questions about
it because of like they want the dewey look like
the dewey glow. You should do the dewey glow on
your wedding day. And I was telling them, yeah, you
(21:54):
can do it for like a special occasion or a
night out, but that I didn't have a code anymore.
But I was like, but you can go get it
if you want. And then a listener DMed me and
was like, I just got some on Amazon for me
and my sister's and it's twenty percent off on Amazon
right now.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And so I was like, what so question about this
now stuff? Because I actually was talking about this to
an esthetician today when I was going to get my
eyebrows curled.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
What is it called lifted your eyelashes or browse?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
What did I say?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You said browse?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I meant I latch eyelashes lifted. I was asking her
about it, and she said she's heard good things about this,
but I'm confused. Do you do it for like ten
days and then for a little bit of time you
have the dewy glow or is it the day that
you put it on you have the dewy glow.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So it helps with texture and fine line wrinkles. Fine
lines and wrinkles. The ideas you want to do the
ten day treatment plan. So what what I've been doing
is I've done a ten day treatment. So I did
it ten days in a row, and some of those
I was doing it in the PM before bed, but
then I realized, I'm wasting the glow. I'm sleeping through
the glow. So then I switched to morning and I
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put it on before and i'd have at the star
of my day, which was great because then I had
the glow. I haven't tested this out in the hot,
hot summer yet, but TBD and I did the ten
day and then if you buy like another ten pac
then you can do it like once a week for
ten weeks, or once every two weeks if you want to,
like if you have a night out or specialccasion, or
(23:20):
if you just want to kind of give your skin
that hydration and give it the snail secretion. The serum,
the growth. It's a growth factor.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Would you say secretion, that's when you lose me.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I know, snail secretion. I know, we'll call it snail
stuff growth factor. Okay, you know, maybe a couple times
a year you could do the ten day. But like
the lines around my eyes and then around my mouth,
like I feel like those are less apparent. I'm just
trying to also be preventative.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But it's not like it only works when you have
it on.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know, it's doing a The ten day is not
just like okay, whoop, you did your ten days and
then the benefits are gone. It's doing something to your
skin that's turning okay things. That's what I being beneficial.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
All Right, I'm getting closer to the idea as long
as we just stop saying secretion.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Okay, I need to just I'll give you one of
my little tube things.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I have the sample from the show. Oh, from the
live Yeah, my dad gave me his VIP bag because
I guess he didn't want it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Your dad didn't want his vip back. You didn't want
the snail oh, because she ordered some of those bars
that were in there.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Oh my gosh. No, but I was thinking about that
today when I was eating a cliff bar and I
was like, I would rather be eating what are they
called Alpha ten?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Alpha ten? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That so good?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah ten for tennessee te n n okay. I realize that. Yeah,
I know, because I was like, I thought it was
Alpha one zero, but it's alpha tennessee in in and
then the other cat not you, but cryocat she has
that code can get a discount, yeah, cat ten. If
anybody else wants to try these, they're so good. I'm out.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I ran out.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I need to get some more because I go through
them really fast. They have the minis in the full size.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't know there's a mini.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
There's a mini?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Well, well, I highly recommend. I'm a bar connoisseur and
it was delicious.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I have a bar in my bag right now.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
What kind of bar do you have to pull it out?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Speaking of? It's a mini?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Is it a kind mini? Now?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
It's a perfect bar, minieh.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I love perfect bars.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
It's the dark chocolate, that's chip peanut butter. That's a
good one and I'm gonna eat it when we're done.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So let's just do you want to put that in
the fridge?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Listen is it bad that this stayed out how long?
Like overnight? But then I put it back in the fridge.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I feel like that's fine. It's like leaving peanut butter
out overnight. Well, no, there's milk, there's stuff in there.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Actually goes back to that, like, I'm not I don't
like to have milk, but there's not that much milk
in here.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
There can't be that much. Feel like I like those
just I just like them cold. They taste better to me.
But I don't know that you're going.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
To get sick. Yeah, it says right here, store in
fridge or freezer in all caps. Okay, So well, I
guess we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Hope y'all are having the day that you need to have?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Kat?
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
On Instagram at Katt Defada and at Uniu Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And I am at Radio Amy. You can also hit
up radioime dot com if you want links to our
four Things Gratitude journal, or even my Amazon page where
I've got the snail growth Factor up since to make
sure you're getting the right one again. I don't know
if it's still on sale, but I love when listeners
keep me posted on stuff. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I was like, oh, dang, Troy percent off. Good good.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I and Kat and I will be back together next Tuesday.
But I'll be here with you on Thursday for four
things and then Kat tell people when your episodes are.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
So uned therapy. It comes out Monday, the main episode,
and then Wednesday we do couch talks that I record
on this couch and that's where I answer questions that
listeners send in about anything.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Oh the other day, you sent me a question that
all listener sent in and I was like, that is heavy. Yeah, yeah,
I'm I'm glad you addressed it, but it was heavy.
And I was like, oh, well, it's probably not as
intimidating for you to address because you are a therapist.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, And I will say the questions that I answer.
Usually I don't give people the answer they're looking for.
They're looking for me to tell them what they should do.
Oftentimes I just offer them questions that will lead them
to figuring out on their own, because I can't know
what you should do, especially with one little email, but
I can give you some food for thought.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Such a therapists talk right, therapist, even my therapist, I'm like,
just tell me what to do, and that's what she does. Well,
let's let's walk through this, or why don't. I'm going
to give you this prompt and let's let's journal through
it and connect next time and see what comes up.
And I'm like, yeah, you're like this so annoying, but
it is. We are we have agency over our lives.
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It is empowering once you get to the point where
you make a decision yourself and don't have to rely
on anybody else to tell you. So, yeah, you're right
you Okay, We will see y'all later, Okay,
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and today's quote is well from Cat.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I want to say this guy is the father of psychology.
I could be wrong. I learned this a long time ago,
but I do know he was somebody that was very
important in the beginnings of therapy. His name is Carl Rogers.
Have you heard of him?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah? You have? Huh? Really, I feel like you're right,
father of psychology.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That sounds right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Okay, you read it, I'll google.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay. So he says people are just as wonderful as
sunsets if you let them be. When I look at
a sunset, I don't find myself saying soften the orange
a bit on the right hand corner. I don't try
to control a sunset. I watch with awe as it unfolds.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I love that. So Carl Rogers, Yes, he is one
of the founders of humanistic psychology.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Okay, not the father of psychology.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
That's his name starts with a W because I looked
that up first. But then, let me see if you
recognize this sky. Willhelm Lunt Wundt is his last name. Okay,
William James. I've never heard of this Man, I googled
father of psychology, and he's who came up. But anyway,
nobody probably really cares about any of this.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Are we sure that it's not Freud?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It says here is Freud the father of psychology?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Maybe it's maybe there's two fathers, because.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
He's the founder of psychoanalysis and one of the most
influential doctors of the twentieth century century. He introduced new theories,
changed the way people thought, and left an impact on
the field of psychology.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh okay, William Want is the founder of psychology as
a science. I think Freud is the father of psychology.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Okay, So now you know, anybody listening, if you ever
get this in a pop quiz or a trivia game,
now you know.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I had a.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Screenshot of a quote on my phone. It's more so
just to go with our our way of thinking. It's
from doctor Mark Hyman, and I guess he had posted
on Instagram one day, and I guess I liked it
because I took a screenshot. Did you know that if
you have a loving, connected conversation with someone, it will
turn on genes that shut off inflammation your mind is
the most potent pharmacy ever and it will either drive
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inflammation or will stop inflammation simply by your thoughts. I
love knowing that a loving, connected conversation with someone is
all it takes.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
That's all it takes.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I feel like I'm having that with you right now.
Maybe people feel like they're having it with us if
they're listening right now.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Does everybody feel less inflaming?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, make the inflammation go down. I don't know if
I'm inflamed still from Austin, but I went there for
my heart Country fest, and it took me like a
week and a half to recover. Forty two years old
and staying up until two thirty in the morning is
not recommended any longer in my mind, because I used
(02:51):
to be able to do that and it was okay ish,
and now it is just not okay. There is nothing
about it that is okay. I was miserable for days
and days and days. And it makes me think about
your bachelorette party, because you sent out this text trying
to plan it, and some of your friends were calling
it and I say, your friends, because these are your
(03:13):
You have everybody on the group text, but some of
them I don't even know which is normal in friend groups,
but they were calling the trip coastal grandma vibes because
potentially in Charleston. But You're like, I don't want to
stay out too late. I don't do anything. We don't
have to go out. We can have someone cook at
the house. And I'm like, that's what I'm talking about.
And then I called you and I was like, look,
(03:34):
I just don't want to come home tired. And all
of that stemmed from iHeart in Austin because I stayed
up way too late and for the first time ever,
my twelve year old son stayed up until two thirty.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
People thought that was cool.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Those coolest things ever happened. And of course the next
day he was okay, and then by Monday he was
a monster.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I paid for that. They say, you suffer two days,
not the day after you lose the sleep the day
after that. Yes, that is so, that makes sense. True.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That is my experience, both sleep and soreness.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
If I work out soreness, yes, but you don't worry.
The bachelor at trip will be grandma vibes, but also cool.
That's what I asked for. And then they said this
sounds very coastal grandmay. Yeah, I is actually very in
right now it is.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I can't wait to pick out my coastal grandma outfit.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's so trendy.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I told my sister I wanted some coastal grandma flower
pillows added to this. One room that she's helping me
with has very like South Texas vibes, and it's pretty masculine,
and I'm like, can we throw in some like grandma chic. Yes,
there's like some plaids and some a lot of rustic
(04:43):
things and wood. And I said, just a little like
two pillows maybe here or there. And of course I
looked it up and the ones that I was drawn
to are very like vintagey flower colors that would have
been on my grandma's couch or something.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So, speaking of your bachelorette party, you made a comment
downstairs before we came up. We're at Kat's house recording this.
By the way, most of the time I would say,
we're at my house, but we're here in your podcastroom
on your couch where you record couch talks because you
have to do it on a couch obviously, And you said,
I'm paraphrasing. You can correct me, but what I heard
(05:20):
was I kind of don't want my wedding to happen,
because then what am I going to look forward to
in life?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's literally what I said, And I thought, oh, and.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You had handed me like three minutes before you said that.
You handed me a magazine. You're like, you should subscribe
to this. It's really good, and I was like, oh, yeah,
this is good. What magazine is it? And it's Psychology today.
I wonder if is it written bry freid.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wilhelm. I don't think that they're alive to write anything. No,
they're definitely not.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
But I started flipping through it and there is a
whole article about leveraging anticipatory joy, and it's what you
were saying, is like, basically, let me read you this
paragraph from it. Anticipating joy is frequently greater than brought
to us by experiencing the very things we anticipate. This
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is often because an experience does not live up to
our expectations, and the difference between those expectations and reality
mutes are experiential joy. But it's also because anticipating a
pleasure is itself intrinsically pleasurable. So like you are enjoying
looking forward to your wedding, and that is almost bringing
(06:34):
more pleasure potentially than your actual day.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, which that makes me sad. The part that's like,
the things don't usually live up to your expectations. That's
not usually a fear of mine. I don't think I
have unrealistic expectations, especially for my wedding, and I would hope.
But I love a vacation, a party, an event. I
love having something on my calendar that I'm excited to
(06:59):
get to.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Oh my gosh, this article is literally for you. Having
something to look forward to is obviously not the sole
determinant of a mood, but it clearly exerts a powerful influence,
powerful enough that when a mood falls and you're not
sure why, maybe ask yourself. Is the reason? Because you
don't have anything to currently look forward to?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, that's literally Okay. When I went to New York
with Patrick in February, the reason we did that is
because after all the stuff from the holidays, you know
how the holidays are so full of parties and family
and experiences, and I said, we have nothing to look
forward to right now? Can we plan something? So we
just picked a weekend and planned a trip. That's why
(07:39):
not because we really wanted to gowhere and that trip
was awesome. But that was so satisfying to me, and
it helps I think with feeling like especially for me
because my job can be the same kind of every day.
I go and I see clients, I leave, I go
and see clients, I leave, and so it puts some
like things to shake up your life so life doesn't
feel mundane. I highly recommend people filling out their calendar.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
This is the seven and you talking. I highly recommend
just you know, seeing what comes your way and decide
if you want to go very different, very very different.
So leveraging antspiratory joy, careful planning can ensure a consistently
good mood.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So that's you.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You are curating a good mood, good mood. You're welcome
through your calendar and like, let's see your bachelorette party
coming up. I'll put that in for January of twenty
twenty four. Okay, I have something to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I'm good, I feel nice.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, and then your wedding will be again in February.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So two things.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Wow, twenty four is filling up fast. I wouldn't have
anything else crazy that you're next year. I have an
email from a listener named April. Embrace yours because it's
a very sweet email. Okay, okay, I loved reading it. Hi, besties,
(09:07):
that's what she's calling us.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Great.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
My kids think it is very weird for me to
claim y'all as my besties, but I feel like you
guys are. I began listening to your podcast about a
year ago. Your lighthearted sense of humor reminds me of
my own. I'm so happy I found you because we
shoult that in quotes. Just ran a half marathon together. Well,
I ran it while listening to you guys chatting about
all the things. During my training I listened to your podcast.
(09:32):
Everyone thought it was weird that I didn't have a
playlist to pump me up. Your laughter with Kat just
made me forget about the long run that I had
ahead on training days. So on race day, my faithful
fun besties were with me. Everyone would say you have
the best smile as I passed by them, and it
was because of you and Kat. So I just wanted
to say thank you for the gift that you've sent
(09:53):
out into the universe. Your podcast has helped me to
believe in myself and realize that I can do hard
things in life. I can do big things too. I
told people before that I was just running a half marathon.
Then I heard your podcast about not downgrading big things
that you're doing in life. So a few weeks ago
I decided to stop saying just a half marathon and
(10:15):
started saying proudly, I am running a freaking half marathon.
Thank you for speaking the truth into my life and
inspiring me with your stories, encouragement and awesome quotes that
speak to my heart. Keep doing what you're doing because
y'all are bright light throughout my work week. Take care, besties,
and hope to meet you guys at the next live
come to North Carolina. And one more thing, have the
(10:38):
day you need to have by.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Ye wow and wait. I especially like that because April,
I'm with you that I haven't been a runner in
two years. But I used to be a big runner.
And when I ran, I always listened to podcasts always,
and I would save up. It was really hard. I
would save up the episodes that I really wanted to
listen to for days I was going to run. And
(11:01):
when I ran the last race I ran, I saved
like four episodes up and it actually made me look
forward to the race for another reason, and it's to me,
it's different than music. You forget that you're running because
you're having a conversation with your besties.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
When I was a runner, podcast didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Exist, so you have like a book on tape.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I didn't have that option.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I did you like, have a walkman, need to carry
it with mede. No.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
The last race that I ran that the last last
half marathon that I ran was two thousand and thirteen.
I did the Saint Jude Rock and Roll half. Yeah,
so ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
There was podcasts back then, they probably just weren't as
popular to listen to, right, That's when like cereal and
that kind of stuff came out.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Okay, yeah, I mean the Bobby Bone Show. We would
upload stuff to.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You don't want to listen to yourself on your well.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
No, I mean I'm just thinking back of my brain,
like you're right. Podcast didn't exist, but that I didn't even.
I only did that because my running friends from Austin,
Heather and Jessica, came in town and they wanted to
do it, and I didn't train, and it was pouring
down rain that year away like mon soon.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I ran it that. That's when I ran my first marathon, okay,
And I had to throw my head my headphones, and
because of the rain, it was I was afraid I
was gonna bet elextrocuted. I So I saw my sister
like the third mile, and I chucked my headphones and
my phone at her and I ran for four hours
with no sound.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
What was your marathon time?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Like three fifty six or something. I could never do
that today. This was what ten twelve years ago?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
It was exactly ten. It's twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh okay, yea, but yes, that the rain.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
But yeah, I did that in the rain, and I
didn't really train. And I hurt my knee because you know,
in the rain too, your arthritis kicks in. And I
have an other knee injury from when I did a
marathon in college, giving me Grandma five my heartritis in college.
I'm trying to think I would listen to like I
had a little walkman that went around my arm, and
(13:04):
I could listen to FM like I would listen to
you know, the radio station.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Did you have to like change the station as you
I guess the same station will work.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh here's another thing I remember, Actually I did get
a an MP three player of some sorts. This is
before the iPod existed. I would download music from napster.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Oh in LimeWire. Did you use timelire?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, so that's how I ran. I ran. I was illegal. Yeah,
you're breaking the law jamming out. But my marathon time
was like four hours and thirty minutes time.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Still really fast, you don't think, so will you beat me? So? Okay,
well I couldn't do it today. Good for you. And
it's not it's not a race. I mean it is
literally a race.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, but I have zero desire to do any kind
of fun runs anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I think that if I were I don't have a
desire to do that right now. But if I think
if I were to run a race like that again,
I would enjoy it more because I know longer care
about the time. Back then, the time was very important.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Well, let's put someone on your calendar. Well, I don't
know if that's what I want to look forward to
fill it up every Saturday.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You and Patrick are like, he would be so mad
at you if I did this and you started it.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
But y'all wake up on Saturday mornings and go do
the capital steps, which are brutal.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
That feels different. It's not hours of running. It's like
you run a little bit, then you do something else.
You run a little bit and we get bagels after.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
But even just running those stairs once. When I see
y'all posting it, especially now that it's warming up, I think, no,
they're crazy. What are y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well, he doesn't really like it, Just so you.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Know, I have zero interest in that. Which speaking of
working out or not working out, you can have protein
powder whenever you want. But you know how I was
telling you about the goat way. Yeah, and it's just
the ingredient is just got way or what way protein.
I got an email from Lauren, who's hook and us up.
(15:00):
I may have to order this because she says it's good.
I got an email from Lauren, who's hooking us up.
I may have to order this because she says it's
good not hooking us up with like protein.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I was like, I don't really know if I want
the goat protein.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But this is a suggestion.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's not goat.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
But she said, hey, Amy, I listened to the episode
from May sixteenth today, and you were talking about the
goat protein powder, and I wanted to share the protein
that I have been using. It's called iconic protein. They
are away protein isolate, but lactose free. I also avoid
dairy because I don't think I digest lactose well. But
the lactose free powder does not bother my stomach. The
(15:45):
powder tastes pretty good. I like to add it to
homemade oatmeal. And did I say oatmeal? Weird oatmeal?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Now you didn't say it weird way, No, I was
gonna say, I've never thought about protein powder in my oatmeal.
That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh, back in the day trigger alert. I don't know.
This was in my very very very disorder days, but
it may not. You could do this thing healthy, but
I was not doing it healthy. I did body for life.
Have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
No, that sounds I'm already. I got a flag.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I was red flag. I was in college. I bought
the book at Barnes and Noble as a book. I
don't even know that they had a website. Really aging
myself with this. My boyfriend at the time bet me
one hundred dollars that I couldn't complete thirty days of
it or something. Because I am type B. I give
up on things and it's fine, I don't have to
(16:35):
complete it. I saw our friend Lisa Haym post something
the other day about how she gave up on one
of her peloton workouts to go start a yoga thing.
She was just working out at home, and she was like,
I'm a proud Type BEE and I have no problem
quitting that hiking class to go over here and finish
some yoga. And I'm like, oh my gosh, that's me
and I'm going to start embracing it more. Speaking of,
(16:57):
you know, not downgrading, you're like I should be.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's an asset A proud Yeah, Type B, you can
let go of things that aren't working for you.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
But as a Type B, I have to admit that
I feel inadequate when I see Type a's and they're
all proud Type A, Like I'm Type A. I have
to finish that. I'm like a good for you Type A,
you know. But back to me being a Type B
and not finishing things. My boyfriend at the time didn't
think I could finish it. And what you did you
(17:25):
had to go like hardcore for five days and then
you could take the weekend off or something, or you
had one cheat day. So maybe it was six days hardcore,
one cheat day, I mean, and he was right. I
didn't get the hundred dollars. Like I lasted a couple
of weeks. But we even as a couple with some
of our other college friends, like took a road trip
somewhere in South Texas to someone's ranch, and I like
(17:45):
packed all of my food. Oh, red flag, red flag.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It was horrible. But then like when my free day came,
because it was like on Saturday, I had to do
it because I was with him, and I had to
wake up and do this running exercise and so everyone's
sleeping in because they hung out the night before. We
went to get Mexican food the night before, I couldn't
have a margarita. Thinking back, this was so miserable, but
I really wanted to get the hundred dollars and prove
(18:10):
to him that I could do it. And then Sunday
came around and I don't know if someone had brought
Girl Scout cookies, and like I basically ate every single
one because I was like free day. But you know,
that's that's how it works. But in the Body for
Life program, back to the oatmeal, one of the one
of the recipes. Was oatmeal with protein powder and a
(18:32):
scoop of peanut butter with a little bit of milk
or something on top.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And it was so good. That actually sounds pretty good.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, so it was regular oatmeal, chocolate, protein powder, a
scoop of peanut butter, and then milk on top.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I have all those ingredients. I'm gonna try that, not
gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
It was good, like I could carry that over to
something now, I'm gonna try maybe like I carry that
over to a meal that I would actually eat now,
or maybe I should even try to for my kids.
Sometimes it's so hard to get them protein and maybe
they would even like it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
When oatmeal is kind of like a bit, you have
to put something in it to make it taste good.
So I usually do a bunch of fruit, but peanut
butter and protein batter. I'll try it. That sounds just
like a This doesn't sound good. I wanted to say
chocolate porridge.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, it doesn't sound good. Well, back to her her email,
she said, homemade oatmeal meal.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Okay, now you're saying weird, Okay, because.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Now I'm nervous. Homemade oatmeal, homemade oatmeal with or pancake batter,
which is an easy way to get protein or vanilla.
Hers is the she likes the vanilla one. They she
said they also make tasty shakes. I love your podcast
and keep up the awesome work.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I hope you have the day you need to have.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh, both of them said that both emails, so Lauren,
and then she sent the website and it's like drink
iconic dot com. So anyway, I might have to check
that out because the plain goat is it is not
doesn't have the vanilla, so it's not sweet. What I
have found is it works well in savory, which I
think I told you that.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But if that is so weird to me, I don't
want to put protein.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
But you can't tell you stirred in and I can't
tell that it's in there. It just tastes like a
little bit of like a put a little bit of goat,
like a goat walked by, you know how Lacroix. The
joke is that it's like the licory truck just drove
past some oranges or something and it has a hint
of orange.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh, I don't know that was a joke, but that's good.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
I don't even know if I'm saying it correctly. But
it's like the goat go just walk by, like some
goat cheese just happened to be nearby.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Walk by your salad?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Hint?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Is that what you're putting it on? Like a salad?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
No in a hot bowl like a rice and beans
and okay, I sprinkle it. So anyway, Vanilla Protein Lovers
from Iconic, which we love. Oh dang, I just went
to the website. So sold out? Oh really dang, notified
me even available? But you know what, sold out makes
you want something even more.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That means that people are loving it and it's good, right.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, it makes you think that.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
But what if they only want to really sold out? Right?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Or they know that this is marketing at its finest. Yeah,
they're smart, and then it makes you want to click
on it. It makes me want more. And now I'm like, dang,
this must.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Be really good. But chocolates sold out too.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
I don't know. I bet if you hit notify me
an available, we put in our email address and then
we get tomorrow and they're like, guess what, Yeah, there's
one in.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Stock for you.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Order here, And I'd be like, okay, sure, no problem.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Marketing.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I don't know if it's still going to be going
on by Tuesday when this loads, but it's only a
few days away. But the my snail stuff, I don't
have a code for that anymore. Hopefully i'll get another
one later this year. But someone's asking me questions about
it because of like they want the dewey look like
the dewey glow. You should do the dewey glow on
your wedding day. And I was telling them, yeah, you
(21:54):
can do it for like a special occasion or a
night out, but that I didn't have a code anymore.
But I was like, but you can go get it
if you want. And then a listener DMed me and
was like, I just got some on Amazon for me
and my sister's and it's twenty percent off on Amazon
right now.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And so I was like, what so question about this
now stuff? Because I actually was talking about this to
an esthetician today when I was going to get my
eyebrows curled.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
What is it called lifted your eyelashes or browse?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
What did I say?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You said browse?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I meant I latch eyelashes lifted. I was asking her
about it, and she said she's heard good things about this,
but I'm confused. Do you do it for like ten
days and then for a little bit of time you
have the dewy glow or is it the day that
you put it on you have the dewy glow.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So it helps with texture and fine line wrinkles. Fine
lines and wrinkles. The ideas you want to do the
ten day treatment plan. So what what I've been doing
is I've done a ten day treatment. So I did
it ten days in a row, and some of those
I was doing it in the PM before bed, but
then I realized, I'm wasting the glow. I'm sleeping through
the glow. So then I switched to morning and I
(22:58):
put it on before and i'd have at the star
of my day, which was great because then I had
the glow. I haven't tested this out in the hot,
hot summer yet, but TBD and I did the ten
day and then if you buy like another ten pac
then you can do it like once a week for
ten weeks, or once every two weeks if you want to,
like if you have a night out or specialccasion, or
(23:20):
if you just want to kind of give your skin
that hydration and give it the snail secretion. The serum,
the growth. It's a growth factor.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Would you say secretion, that's when you lose me.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I know, snail secretion. I know, we'll call it snail
stuff growth factor. Okay, you know, maybe a couple times
a year you could do the ten day. But like
the lines around my eyes and then around my mouth,
like I feel like those are less apparent. I'm just
trying to also be preventative.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But it's not like it only works when you have
it on.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know, it's doing a The ten day is not
just like okay, whoop, you did your ten days and
then the benefits are gone. It's doing something to your
skin that's turning okay things. That's what I being beneficial.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
All Right, I'm getting closer to the idea as long
as we just stop saying secretion.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Okay, I need to just I'll give you one of
my little tube things.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I have the sample from the show. Oh, from the
live Yeah, my dad gave me his VIP bag because
I guess he didn't want it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Your dad didn't want his vip back. You didn't want
the snail oh, because she ordered some of those bars
that were in there.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Oh my gosh. No, but I was thinking about that
today when I was eating a cliff bar and I
was like, I would rather be eating what are they
called Alpha ten?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Alpha ten? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
That so good?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah ten for tennessee te n n okay. I realize that. Yeah,
I know, because I was like, I thought it was
Alpha one zero, but it's alpha tennessee in in and
then the other cat not you, but cryocat she has
that code can get a discount, yeah, cat ten. If
anybody else wants to try these, they're so good. I'm out.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I ran out.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I need to get some more because I go through
them really fast. They have the minis in the full size.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't know there's a mini.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
There's a mini?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Well, well, I highly recommend. I'm a bar connoisseur and
it was delicious.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I have a bar in my bag right now.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
What kind of bar do you have to pull it out?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Speaking of? It's a mini?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Is it a kind mini? Now?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
It's a perfect bar, minieh.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I love perfect bars.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
It's the dark chocolate, that's chip peanut butter. That's a
good one and I'm gonna eat it when we're done.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So let's just do you want to put that in
the fridge?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Listen is it bad that this stayed out how long?
Like overnight? But then I put it back in the fridge.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I feel like that's fine. It's like leaving peanut butter
out overnight. Well, no, there's milk, there's stuff in there.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Actually goes back to that, like, I'm not I don't
like to have milk, but there's not that much milk
in here.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
There can't be that much. Feel like I like those
just I just like them cold. They taste better to me.
But I don't know that you're going.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
To get sick. Yeah, it says right here, store in
fridge or freezer in all caps. Okay, So well, I
guess we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Hope y'all are having the day that you need to have?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Kat?
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
On Instagram at Katt Defada and at Uniu Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And I am at Radio Amy. You can also hit
up radioime dot com if you want links to our
four Things Gratitude journal, or even my Amazon page where
I've got the snail growth Factor up since to make
sure you're getting the right one again. I don't know
if it's still on sale, but I love when listeners
keep me posted on stuff. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I was like, oh, dang, Troy percent off. Good good.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I and Kat and I will be back together next Tuesday.
But I'll be here with you on Thursday for four
things and then Kat tell people when your episodes are.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
So uned therapy. It comes out Monday, the main episode,
and then Wednesday we do couch talks that I record
on this couch and that's where I answer questions that
listeners send in about anything.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Oh the other day, you sent me a question that
all listener sent in and I was like, that is heavy. Yeah, yeah,
I'm I'm glad you addressed it, but it was heavy.
And I was like, oh, well, it's probably not as
intimidating for you to address because you are a therapist.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, And I will say the questions that I answer.
Usually I don't give people the answer they're looking for.
They're looking for me to tell them what they should do.
Oftentimes I just offer them questions that will lead them
to figuring out on their own, because I can't know
what you should do, especially with one little email, but
I can give you some food for thought.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Such a therapists talk right, therapist, even my therapist, I'm like,
just tell me what to do, and that's what she does. Well,
let's let's walk through this, or why don't. I'm going
to give you this prompt and let's let's journal through
it and connect next time and see what comes up.
And I'm like, yeah, you're like this so annoying, but
it is. We are we have agency over our lives.
(27:52):
It is empowering once you get to the point where
you make a decision yourself and don't have to rely
on anybody else to tell you. So, yeah, you're right
you Okay, We will see y'all later, Okay,
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