Chasing Dreams. Manifestations. Curiosity. Gratitude.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, cast up a little food for you sol life.
Oh it's pretty, it's pretty beautiful than that, A little

(00:23):
moth kicking four. Happy Thursday. I have a special guest
today coming to us from the Bobby Bone Show, executive
producer Scuba Steve. Hello, I'm a special guest. What are

(00:44):
other guests usually called? Well, I mean you're special because well,
I guess you're not not that special because I work
with you every day, but it's special because it's not
often that someone from the show comes over toast. So
how would you define your role on the Bobby Bones Show?
What is your day to day? Like quickly just summarize
to people know, like what what do you do on

(01:05):
the show? So title is executive producer and it kind
of has a different role in depending on the day.
I mean, one of the biggest things is emails upon
emails about emails about emails about emails, and managing the
show and managing the show's brand and the show, how
we sell the show, and how we make money off
the show or make money for the show. So all

(01:25):
those and then events and things that we do within
the show and helping with the content of show and
the guests booking and finding like the guests, the country
music people, but also random people and people in Hollywood
are just hey, I want to talk to this person
I saw in a new story. So a lot of
research as well and finding people and connections, and then
really and then just managing the show as a whole.
So anything that goes that comes it comes at me.

(01:47):
It could be a sales request or a sales issue,
or an internal problem within the show or something like that.
I don't know how often do you have to deal
with internal problems with the show every single They call
that like a football reference, like you're like a you intercept. Well,
I don't know why. Why why I just decided to

(02:07):
throw in a football reference. Maybe because the guys are
next door. I can literally hear them talking about sports
recording store losers. So I was like, oh, the analogy
here for football, like you play yes, fullback, blocking stuff
and making sure that he looks good exactly. So there's
all kinds of things that come that will come as
way or won't come away because I blocked it and
removed it from his Yeah, I feel like you do

(02:29):
that for a lot of us. Yeah, I'm like the
Frankie of the Mobster, I hide the dead bodies and this,
and then we know if it gets to us and
we need to know, then it's like, Okay, this must
be really bad yeah, or good or good Yeah. A
lot of good things too. A lot of great things
happened with the show. It's been fun to present. But
it's a really fun job because because I can't really

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describe it, because it is different every every single day.
There are some things that are minution you have to
constantly do that are just part of your day to day.
But it's fun because there's so many new things that
come at me and presents new challenges. When I first
moved here, I moved here and then three months later
the world shutdown. We hit a pandemic, and we've never
experienced a pandemic in our lifetime, so present a new
challenges of how do we move the show forward in

(03:10):
a digital space and everyone in different locations and that
the tech behind that and coming up with new solutions
and all that kind of stuff. It's just for me,
it's fun because it's always something different and there's new challenges. Oh,
and there's different are times where I'm like, really, but
I still know that once I get it out. Then
I have to then go, Okay, now how can I
fix this solution or how can I make this a solution.
I know that this sucks and there's something I can

(03:31):
do about it. And that's kind of you have to
have the mindset of that, just in life in general,
knowing that things are gonna be thrown at you and
you just got to kind of be fluid and roll
with it. So some might say that you took a
step backwards, like being that you came from Ryan Seacrest.
That was literally your job before you came to work
for the Bobby Bones Show, and you were living in California,
Los angeless and so, and even before you worked with Ryan,

(03:53):
you've mentioned that you worked on Dr Phil's show. I
mean different roles. It's not like I'm not saying the
position and you left was like so high, so crazy?
Why would you leave that? But what has been your
goal when it comes to this entertainment world space? Did
you want to lean more towards TV or what was
it like working for someone like Dr Feller being in
that space and then moving over to radio? And then

(04:16):
are you living your dream or you're not there yet? Uh?
So that they have a lot of answers for you
that I have in So the first thing I would
say would be to answer the taking a step back,
I would say that it's not a step back from me.
It may look like it on paper, like why you're
gonna go from Ryan Seacrest, Who's Ryan Seacrest? The Bobby
Bones who's still Bobby Bones? But if you're looking at it,

(04:36):
I mean Ryan's almost a billionaire, um like he's created
all these like Bobby's created things with This guy's created
the Kardashians. He has been involved a lot of different
things in American Idol from the start, and always like
it would look on paper like, wow, you're leaving Ryan Seacrest.
But for me, where I got at my position within
that show, it had pretty much reached work could like
as far as it could go. The next step over
wasn't available. Somebody was in that position and it wasn't

(04:58):
the time for that person to move on from me
to take that role. So I was like, well, I'm
at a spot. This is great. I can continue to
ride this train until the wheels fall off, because Ryan
can be doing this for god knows how much longer.
You know, he does radio and he's good at it.
Or can I challenge myself to the next thing? And
I want again going back to we mentioned earlier challenges,
I want challenges in my life. And so moving somewhere,

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knew it wasn't a foreign concept to me. I had
moved from Orlando to San Francisco to Los Angeles and
now looking at Nashville, which is where we are now.
So I was like, I wanted a new challenge. Also,
how can I better my family's life, because now it's
not just me. I can't be selfish and think about
what is best for me, what's gonna be best for
my family as a whole, my kids growing up, my wife,

(05:43):
those kinds of things. So I was okay, Nashville checks
that box. As far as more space, it's a little
bit cheaper to live. It seems more family conducive for
families versus Los Angeles unless you're worth you know, fifty
million dollars, which I wasn't and I'm not, you know,
I need to look at how could I better my
family on a personal level and for me professionally. And

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I wanted to grow and this this show had an
opportunity to come in uh and help and grow with
it and make it even bigger than what it already was.
So I was like, Okay, this is a cool opportunity,
so let me, let me explore this landscape. And it
seemed to check the boxes that I wanted, and so
for me, it was a step forward in my career
um not looking at names or shows or locations within

(06:25):
the country. It was a it was a challenge for
me that I had I won't say too much of
what I needed to do, but it was a challenge
for me that I hadn't had yet, and I wanted
to to jump into. So I took it here. I
am here you are. How many years have you been
with us? Now this would be into my second year.
So I started in November eleven, Yeah, a few months before. Yea,

(06:46):
the world completely shut down. Didn't know that was coming,
and you handled that well. I mean, I think you
came just at the right time so that we could
have that structure to meet you guys for a second
kind of figure you guys out, and then like, Okay,
now how can I make this work? Knowing how the
show sort of functions to a certain degree, Yeah, and
then what about why did you ever even work for

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Dr Phil's show, Like, did you think about going into
TV or is radio where you saw yourself? I've always
wanted to be in television since I was a little kid,
watching uh Nickelodeon like Double Dare and people getting slimed
and knowing that that that is created somewhere near my home.
I just I could felt the energy of always gravitating
towards Hollywood. I didn't know what exactly what it was

(07:27):
I wanted growing up. I just knew I wanted to
be involved in television. Um, not so much and as
a face of it, but I was really fascinated with
how everything was made and created and the steps to
get to what you see on television. I was like, Wow,
would be so cool to be able to be a
part of that process, to make something that lives forever,
you know, like those some of those shows that were

(07:48):
made on Nickelodeon, like they're being rebooted and they're being
brought back out now again. I talked about, like to
be a part of something like that. I think would
be really cool to have your stamp in history, whether
it be music or whatever. You you basically created something
that has made an impact forever. And I feel like
that would be so cool to be able to be
a part of that. So I was like, I want
to be in Hollywood. And ever since I was like

(08:09):
five or sex, I remember I'm going to Hollywood. My
screen name on AOL with Stephen Hollywood. My email was
Stephen Hollywood. Are you into manifesting things in that way?
Because Dirk Smentley has even talked about that before. He
wanted a specific type of airplane because he's a pilot,
he flies something he learned just for fun. He's not
like a pilot for but it's something that you know.

(08:33):
Once he had enough money, he's like, oh, that would
be amazing if I had that. But before he had
the money, I think he said he made I think
he told Bobby this on the Bobby Cast or something.
He made his password the type of plane he wanted,
and so that was his way of daily having to
enter that password and manifesting that he eventually was able

(08:53):
to get that plane. That's pretty dan cool. Yeah, So
I mean do you feel like that's what you were
doing with Yes, I think looking at in retrospect, I
think of the many times in my life, And another
one would be to answer when your next questions, was
what I want to do in radio as far as
where did I see myself but manifesting Yes, Stephen Hollywood,
like you said, it's my screen name, it was my email,
so I typed it. I saw it, and then I
moved to Hollywood, and I remember that moment going to

(09:15):
l A well, the first when I moved to San Francisco.
You go to l A every once in a while
for like war conventions, you know, the Grammys, things like that,
And when I would go to l A, I was like, Wow,
one day, I'm I driving these streets and it just
would constantly picture that and then I would then it
would bring me back to Stephen Hollywood, like, oh my gosh,
I'm one more step closer to l A. And then
once I got to a point where I had kind
of got to a spot in San Francisco where I

(09:36):
couldn't climb any further, I was like, I should just
go for for l A. My wife and I remember,
I remember the moment We're sitting in our kitchen in
San Francisco and she's like, you're not happy anymore. You've
accomplished all you can accomplish. Just screw Let's go to
l A. And I was like, what we hadn't had
We had no kids, so nothing really tied us down
to the Bay except for her family. She had just
quit your job and let's go. I'll support you and
follow you. And I was like, really you'll and she's like, yes,

(09:59):
I'll stay in San Francisco because I have to keep
my job and pay for things. But you go to
l A and you pursue, you do whatever you want
to do, whatever you want to do in l A.
You just go there and you do it. And I
was like, Wow, to have that kind of support and
for someone to tell me that, you know, I can
go to l A and do it. Then I was like,
oh my gosh. So to answer your question, the manifestation
came true for that um and then one of the
other things I manifested when I first got in the
radio is I always want to be part of the

(10:20):
biggest show, the the most I'm getting emotional, the biggest show,
the most powerful known syndicated show in the history. And
I always thought was Howard Stern. I was like, I
want to I want to be on a show like that.
It's just it's it's the biggest show ever. I said
that from the day when I got in the radio,
and then I got on Bryan Seacrest Show when I
moved to l A, and then now Boby Bones Show,
which is another really big, huge, powerful show. So yes,

(10:42):
long story short, I do believe in manifesting because it's
happened to me now three times in just this conversation.
I could think of probably fifty more. But I feel
like if you if you speak it, if you believe it,
if you think about it, if you want it, you'll
obtain it somehow, somehow, it will come and it'll not
fall into your lap, but but things along the way
will build a lot of hard work you put in
that you just knew like you're what you wanted or

(11:04):
were hoping for your final destination to be. But we're
still skipping over the doctor. Why so you get to
l A. Is that when what's your first job? When
you get to l A, you finally have this ticket
in your mind, like this support of like I'm finally
here and I'm doing this. So where do you go
to even look for work? So I get there, I

(11:25):
had my apartment lined up before I get there, but
then that felled the crap and I had to find
an apartment really quickly done on the drive down there.
I got my apartment, got settled in, and my friend
John Manuel, who works in the company. He works out
of l A. But I met him up in San
Francisco years before and he moved to l A. And
he was like, Hey, if you ever come to l
A or every anything, let me know the kind of thing.
And we were still friends. We talked every once in
a while, and then as I was going to l

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A hit him up. I was like, hey, man, I'm
actually coming to l A and I'm leaving my gig
in San Francisco. And he was like, oh wow. He's like,
give me a moment. I was like all right. And
then so he went and talked to his wife who
works for Dr Phil. She's like the head of their
business division HR for Dr Phil and had been there
since I think season one, and he's like, let me
talk to my wife. I'll be right back, and I
was like all right. So he calls in the next day.

(12:07):
He's like, Hey, if you really want to pursue this
thing in l A, because I support you, I got
you when you move here. He goes, I got you
a job. He goes, you got an interview interview for it, obviously,
but you know, I got you a gig to work
with Dr Phil. And I was like, what it was
like Dr Phil. He's like yeah, like Dr Phil, He's like, yeah, dude.
He goes it's he goes, it's a really really bottom
of the wrong position, but it'll get you in. And

(12:28):
he goes with your mindset and how you work and
and your skill set, you'll be tole move up really fast.
You'll you'll be high up with in TV within a
couple of years. Just come here and do it, and
I promise you. I was like, all right, cool. So
then that was like the my wife telling me with
my girlfriend at the time, my wife telling me, let's
do it. And then I have John saying I got
a gig for you. When you get here. I was like, okay,
I got two things saying, Okay, I need to do it.

(12:50):
So I moved to l A get their interview, got
the job obviously, and it's bottom of the wrong. Like
I'm literally like the runner of the show, like doing
all the crap, like picking up plain to people what
that would be. Yeah, So I'm like doing all the
things that not most people want to do, like going
to pick up the guests. Like there'd be many different
times where I'd have to wake up at like five
in the morning and dry out the Rancho Cucamonga to
pick up some crazy asper like the guests you see

(13:11):
on the show, those crazy people. I don't have to
go pick those people up. So it's not like you
were picking up famous guests that Dr Phil was having
on it, like the people he was killing giving therapy
in front of millions of people, picking them up in
a vehicle and they're like sitting next to me or
behind me, like to catch me outside girl, like those
kind of people. We would pick those people up from
the airport originate from Dr Cash me outside. Yeah, a

(13:35):
month later for so I had that I was working
there in a month later she was a guest on
the show. So I just missed her, that bad baby
or whatever her name is. So yeah, we pick up
the guests from the either airport or a lot of
them lived like deep out in so call like Rancho
Cucamonga is like two hours, three hour drive. Like I
had to pick up on guests one time at you know,
five in the morning, picked him up and then got
stuck in l A traffic. We were in the car
for four hours together and it was some weird girl

(13:59):
that was there for some mental family issues, and it
was a really weird four hour drive. But those kind
of things like picking up that go first, go to
Dr Phil's house. He needs this. So yeah, just driving
up there was so cool and just so fascinating for me,
and it was just an experience. And I remember and
I was pulling up there and I pulled into his house.
Here I am pulling out my little Honda Civic and

(14:20):
I'm pulling up into Dr Phil's thing. And you push
the button and they bring you in and and it's massive,
and he's got probably the biggest house on the top
of the hill on the in the Hollywood Hills, and
it is just gorgeous and it's got those you know,
it's got the view of all about a downtown l
A and the mountains and everything. And I think it
is the biggest house on the hill. Um. I don't
know if it still is, but at one point in

(14:40):
time it was the most expensive and biggest home in
that side of the hills. And I pull up and like, wow,
this house is massive, And I realized it's the guesthouse.
I was like, oh my god, it lives in the
guest house, which I found out I think was is
cleaner and somebody else live in the guest house. At
the time at least, I was like, wow, this is
his guest house. And then you pull aroun in the
corner you see his house, like, oh my god. I mean,

(15:15):
I know he sells books, he has a TV show,
but he got popular because of Oprah, right. Oprah was
the one that kind of, I guess discovered him and
then and then I think he's a reoccurring guest on
her show. And then she's like, Wow, this guy is
so great. Let me, because she has that production company, Harpo,
let me, you know, do a show with this guy
and see how it does. And he obviously has been
killing it. I think, what twenty something seasons later, he's
still doing it. So he has TV money, and he's

(15:37):
got old TV money, like the nineties two thousand TV
money when they were throwing they were just throwing. There's
that old radio TV money where it's like I kind
of missed that, we missed that boat. They're paying a
million dollars a year to be in one market you're like, wow, market, yeah,
and that's so his house is unbelievable. And for me,
I didn't get too much past the front door for

(15:57):
your area. I don't know what he calls it, but
it was just kind of like ringing the doorbell. And
then his cleaner came and I gave her the check
and the envelope whatever it was, it was incidehere and
then I couldn't look inside and give it, gave it
to her and she said thank you, and I drove
off and that was my one experience of being in
his house. But it was just one of those things
where you're up there and it's like not saying I
want to manifest living that same lifestyle, but just the

(16:18):
lifestyle where you don't have to worry. You don't have
to think about where is my next anything that I
come from. You can just live life without having to
worry that. What I guess financial freedom would be nice. Yeah.
I saw a list of like the top things that
we don't get enough of, and of course it was
like sleep, like we're not sleep like sunshine some people

(16:40):
put on there. They don't have enough vacation days like
they need time off or exercise like there's no time
for that. But money was on the list, um specifically
that you don't think you're paid what you're worth. You know,
I saw a list of the top things that we
don't get enough of, and money made that list. Of course, yeah,
I know. I for yeah, for some definitely, yeah, that

(17:03):
ease of just not having to worry about certain things.
But then you know the people that come into money
really quickly, like the lottery people probably said something on
the Big Show the other day about I don't know
seventy of people who in the lottery like lose it all.
And then there's that show I don't even know if
it's still airs, but like lottery ruins in my life.

(17:24):
And then there's that song more money, more problems. I
guess it's more money, more problems. But I actually think
in that article though that I read, the money wasn't
referring to like that they don't get enough of it
because they needed to help them out. It's just they're
not getting paid what they actually think that they deserve.
Have you ever had to have that conversation with bosses

(17:44):
of like getting a raise? Oh yeah, yeah, that was
some of the not necessarily route, But sometimes that would
break my back of like, Okay, it's time to go
because I've plateaued. I can't go any further, and they
can't offer more more money. I have to go out
and get it myself. And a lot of time in
this industry, it means you have to move on to something,
to the next thing, because otherwise you can get stuck

(18:05):
in that routine and with that show or with whatever
project you're working on. So for me, I've had to
unfortunately almost three times, I've had to quit to get
a raise or to get the next position I wanted
within this company. I left Orlando because I was with
my ex wife she was moving to San Francisco. But
we had the conversation of like, I've been at this

(18:26):
cluster in Orlando for several years and I'm still not
full time. They keeping the yeah, yeah, you have a
bunch of different dio stations within Yeah, with like the
Orlando market. Uh, it was a great job. It was fun.
It was what I wanted in Orlando, and I got
to point where there's no more, there's nowhere else to go.
I couldn't take any other positions because none of it
was available and no one wanted to to make the move,

(18:48):
and I wasn't getting the money I wanted, so I
was like, all right, well, I gotta just go somewhere
else and try it out. And that that was the
advice I got from day one was if you don't
get what you want, and you've tried all you can try,
and you've learned everything you can learn, then just go
to the next thing, and if you're good at what
you do, it will always be there for you. And
I move to San Francisco and I got a job there,
and then I just constantly kept climbing and moving and

(19:09):
I got to San Francisco and when after about five years,
there wasn't the next thing that I wanted and needed,
but it wasn't available there. I wanted l a uh
and the pay wasn't what I wanted. So I was like,
all right, I'm out. I appreciate everything. I had a
great conversation with the bosses. It wasn't like I'm out,
piece like I had to sit down and you didn't
like I ned at the mood set Yeah yeah whatever, Yeah,

(19:29):
he was like yeah so and on the radio like
per FCC regulations are not allowed to speak that way.
Plus you just straight up, went off air and like
didn't continue playing any or like continue playing maybe just
like one song or yeah and then just go with it.
Didn't know. I had like a like a great constructive conversation.

(19:50):
Because also I'm the kind of person that if I'm
going to leave something, um, which had happened three different times,
I don't want to burn the bridge because you know
what if there's an opportunity to come back to this
same company, and I don't want to leave on a
bad note because I shouldn't. Also because I had a
great time while I was there. They helped build my career.
I learned a lot of great things. There's no reason
to crap on your previous employer, I know. But even if,

(20:11):
like I feel like it's just wise to still even
if there is validity to being angry, Like if you're
walking away from something, you should do it with as
much respect for yourself as possible. I mean, you try
to go out with like a bang. We get all
these funny stories that we share, people just leaving these
really dramatic ways so they can post about it on TikTok,

(20:33):
And why are you ruining your chances? Is one day
that manager or whomever. That maybe was part of the problem.
They might be gone, but then that company might not
pay attention to you because of the way you handled it.
When you left and they got and they got that
market X, you're like, oh, this is not a good
rehire because of X, Y Z, and plus just it's
just better for you as a person to have the conversation.
But for me, when I had the conversation with them,

(20:54):
it was always like I would lay out why I'm leaving,
and a lot of times they try to say, well,
we can offer you, try to keep you, and sometimes
it was enticing, and sometimes it wasn't enough, or wasn't
whatever they could offer wasn't what I wanted because I
wanted something in particular, like for instance, when I left SF,
I wanted to be in l A. And you can't
offer that in San Francisco. It's doesn't You're not Los Angeles.

(21:14):
So that was one thing that that was like, no
matter what they say, I gotta go into this knowing
I want to be in l A. And no matter
what they offer me, whether it be more money or whatever,
don't let that cloud my judgment. I know what I
want and they can't give it. To me, so I
gotta go. But then it also lay out what were
some of the things that um that didn't work well
in this position. So whoever takes my role next, maybe

(21:35):
look at these things to make it better for them,
but also better for you working with them. So I
kind of give the constructive feedback as to what went
wrong with in this position, but but in a nice
way because it is helpful for them as a as
a boston An employer to implement some of those things
to make it better for the person that comes after me,
so they're not in the position or where I was,

(21:55):
or the way I felt about certain things that happened
at that previous job. Well, and then so how did
you end up on Ryan's show? So then I was
working for Dr Phil and I was climbing that ladder,
and I was in the interview process for the next position,
which was an associate producer for Dr Phil and their
main role was to get guests, and it was to
find those guests, the ones that I was picking up

(22:16):
in the van. Um I then had to then find
those guests, whether it be through stories in the news,
because he want to talk to things that were big
topical stories and mentor those people. So people in the news,
people you that would you know, right into Dr Phil
or when they had that number that pops up the
phone number basically mining through wherever you can get it

(22:37):
to get guests for the show. And I was like,
I'll be kind of fun working at radio. We have
to get guests. I have to find guests in creative ways.
Some are easy, summer hard. Like this is great, I
could easily do this. So I started. I applied for it,
and then she kind of the person in charge, gave
me some task to try out, just to see if
I was good at it, and I was doing pretty
well at it, and she's like, all right, and they're
about to offer me the position of a p D
associate producer for Dr Phil. And then I got a

(22:59):
phone call that very same day from a guy named
Dennis who is like a consultant within the company. Shout
out Dennis Clark traveling somewhere in the world right now,
not listening to that, but yes. So Dennis was somebody
that I met previously in San Francisco because he's working
with our morning show. They're consulting trying to help us

(23:22):
to get into syndication and become a bigger show, and
so I had met him there and when I left
San Francisco, he found out that I left and he
was like, hey, you left, that's set for l A.
And I was like yeah, man. He goes all right,
and then hear from him, and then when he called me,
it was like a month or so later. He called me.
He was like, hey, you are you in l A.
I was like, yeah, I'm here right now. He goes,
what are you doing? I'm working for Dr Phil. He's like, okay,

(23:43):
all right, well I have an opportunity for you. And
I was like, well what's that? And he goes, um,
he goes, just sit tight. He goes, but would you
want to get back into radio? And I was like
it had to be something really awesome to get me
back in the radio because I moved here to stay
on this television path and I want to pursue this.
I really want to work on scenes in television. And
I was working on the Paramount lot. So sorry to sidebar,

(24:05):
but driving on the Paramount lot, going back to manifesting
and thinking about being that little kid and now now
here I am driving on the Paramount Studios lot with
my Honda Civic and I'm driving and seeing downtown New
York and I'm seeing Boston. I'm seeing all the sound
stages and I'm seeing props from transformers and all these
cool things. I'm like, holy crap, Like, my life is

(24:27):
this right now? This is so cool. I was a
nobody on the lot, but I was able. I had
access to the Paramount Studios lot, which was so cool
to me. So I was like, whatever you, whatever you're
gonna offer me, it's gotta be. It's gonna be amazing
because this life I'm living right now is exactly what
I wanted. And it's and it's and the people I'm
seeing and the things that I'm experiencing and and being
a part of these my dreams are coming true. So

(24:48):
whatever it is, man, you gotta blow me out of
the water. He's like, all right, he goes, let me
get it, goes all right, give me a second, let
me call you back. So then it calls me back
and he goes Ryan Seacrest and I was like, Okay,
you got my tention. What's up. He's like, so there's
somebody moving on from the show, and it's a supervising
producer role, and there is chance for growth. Um, he

(25:09):
goes and so I don't know if you want to
get back in the radio, but you'd be working with
Ryan and it'd be on his national show. And I
was like, okay, that's pretty cool. I definitely love to
This is one of the ones that I would entertain
the offer. I'm like, this, I'll check out. So all
right cool. So I got to entertain the offer and
check it out. I go to the East Studios, which
is where they're located off of will Shar or will
Shore at the time. Do the interview meet with pretty woman? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

(25:34):
So Willshore is a really long Wilshire is a really
long boulevard and one side of it there's shopping and stuff, yeah,
because it's near um Rodeo Drive, and then there's the
and then it has one different pockets or will Shore,
but one pocket is like an entertainment pocket. So I
go to the studio interview with a guy who's who's leaving,
and um, it goes well, and he's like, oh, I
want you to meet another person named Claudine. She runs

(25:56):
the thing. Meet her. It goes well, and I'm all right,
this is pretty cool. This seems like a great oportunity,
and then then they showed me the money. I'm like,
oh wow, this is way more money than I'm more
monting I've ever made, and more money than I'm making
a Doctor Phil. And my wife at the time was
living in San Francisco. She wasn't coming down until I
secure a gig, and that would have either been through
Dr Phil or whatever I figure out. And it had

(26:16):
already been about a month and a half of not
being with her, and I missed her, and I was like,
all right, well, this Ryan job is gonna pay enough
to where I know if I tore this number, she
would quit her job and move down here. So it's like,
let me go at the Ryan gig and and see
how this goes, because this Dr Phil think could take
a long time. Um, And so I took the path
I took. I went back to radio, which for me
wasn't a loss, but when I did it, it was

(26:38):
one of those things where I was like, I said yes,
but I was like yes, you know, you ever like
agree to something but you're you're good with it. It's
not a bad thing to agree upon, but you're like,
but what if on the other side, you know, yeah,
I mean of course. Yeah, I think we do that
often with big decisions and even some smaller ones. Paper
and plastic. Yes, what if I would have gone paper

(26:58):
would have been with the bag of it for the environment?
Where would this have gone? Which it was plastic tank?
And so yeah, and then Ryan lad you the opportunity
led you to hear, which we got into that a
little bit. So what would you say to someone that
is in the process of chasing their dreams or thinking
about it because you knew early on. You're one of
those rare people that knew early on at least the

(27:20):
field you wanted to be in and you're actually living
it out. Because of course, as a kid, you can
think a lot of things. I put you, Bobby, and
even my husband in that category because Bobby knew he
wanted to do radio at age five. My husband knew
at five he wanted to be a pilot in the
Air Force and he was going to go to the
Air Force Academy, he was going to be and he did. Yeah,
he did all those things, And so I didn't have

(27:41):
that I was a kid. I just I didn't know
what I wanted to do. I think I wanted to
be a vet because my uncle was, and I loved animals,
so I thought, well, that's kind of a thing. That's
the only thing I can remember thinking as a kid
that I wanted to do, except for actually in high school,
I was a big fan of Judy Maggio, which is uh.
She was a news anchor in Austin on one of

(28:02):
the big stations there. And I used to sell granted
and tile and she came into this store where I was.
I did wholesale. She couldn't buy for me, but she
was just looking at a sample and she walked in
and I she wanted to take home a sample, and
I told her that she had to sign out the sample,
and I had her sign a completely different book so
that I could have Judy father tricked her into an

(28:25):
autograph signed here, and it's a cutout. And she was
in news, and I remember watching her on the news
and seeing the billboards and thinking that would be really cool.
But I didn't have any aspirations for journalism or anything
like that, and I knew that that was a key
component to being a lead news anchor like that, so

(28:45):
I never really pursued that route at all. Kind of
just went to college thinking coincidentally I went to a
school that specializes in veterinary medicine, Texas, but still didn't
follow that route of being that vet like what I
thought about as a kid. So anyway, I do think
it's rare that you know as a kid and then
you actually live that out. So whatever age someone is
listening right now, and whatever age they developed that dream,

(29:08):
whether it's five fifty, like, what advice do you have
for someone that is trying to chase that dream? So
my advice for chasing a dream is and I can't

(29:32):
remember when I saw it, And this kind of helped
me along the way, was was I saw this thing
of Steve Harvey and I think it was on YouTube
or somewhere online, like they're like back in then, I say,
back in the day, but like two thousand eight nine,
someone people would email you YouTube videos like hey watch this,
Hey watch this or he It was like a way
to communicate and start a conversation or just to catch

(29:52):
up with friends, is they would send you YouTube videos.
And that's how YouTube videos became viral, was that people
would email them back and forth or like on group chains,
email chains, remember getting one from somebody and it was
usually like the person who was always like the positive person, like,
here's a positive message to get you through your day
kind of thing. And I was usually like, oh, I
don't feel like it today. But one day I remember
click on it and I watched it and it was

(30:13):
Steve Harvey, and I think someone had recorded him doing
something somewhere, either like a motivational speech or it was
on set somewhere, and he was talking to the audience
during in between sets, and he was talking to the
crowd and he was telling them about about chasing your dreams.
And remember him saying and it always stuck with me.
It was a really long, like two minute thing, but
basically the message was is you gotta jump. It is

(30:34):
the only way I can tell you that I'm here
right now, and anyone successful is where they are right
now is because they jumped. He goes, He goes, It's
the hardest thing to do, goes. Think about yourself on
the edge of an airplane, even if you never have
sky dive before, but imagine being on the end of
the airplane and you're like, oh my god, and the
plane's on fire and the only way out as a jump.
But and you know you gotta jump because it's what
you want and what you have to do to survive

(30:55):
and to get to the next step in your life,
which would be to live. He goes, you gotta jump.
You got and if and if you don't jump, you're
you're basically gonna die. And the way to die. And
this an analogy was you get stuck in a rut
and you're not happy. You didn't chase your dreams, You
didn't chase anything that you wanted to pursue in life.
You just talked about it or lived it through other
people or saw others succeed and then you would get

(31:16):
you know, you eventually get you know, angry, and you
get become a crotchety person because you see everyone else
succeeding and you're not succeeding because you didn't jump. So
whenever you're wanting something or whatever you want to go
after something, he goes, you gotta jump. He goes, just
make the leap, make the leap of faith and jump,
and he goes, I'll be honest with you. He goes,
when you jump, it's gonna hurt like hell. He is,
You're gonna hit You're gonna as you're falling down, you

(31:37):
may hit some things. You may get some scrapes and
some bumps, and it's really gonna hurt and it's gonna
suck a on the way goes. But once you land safely,
it's gonna be totally worth it because you jumped and
you look back up and see that you all your
accomplishments that got you to where you are right now
because you took that chance. And I was like wow.
And I was sitting there in the job that I
was in, I was like, I hate this job, and
I was like, I gotta jump, and so I did.

(31:58):
I jumped. I was like, I'm out. I'm I'm gonna
go after what I want to go after. Thank goodness
for that friend, the positive friends sitting out that YouTube video.
Steve Harvey too, there's the story about manifestation. Since we
were talking about that yet a teacher that told him,
I'm going to now paraphrase the story. I told it
on the podcast before, but it was a couple of
years ago, and just for sake of time, we'll just

(32:20):
paraphrase quickly. Like a teacher said, had an activity of
what do you want to be when you grow up?
And he's like, I want to be on TV and
she's like, no, you need to pick something for real.
And I guess, like told his parents ended up getting
in trouble by one of his parents when he got home.
I think maybe his mom because he didn't do the
assignment right. He's like, but I did, I want to
be on TV. And then his dad kind of stepped

(32:40):
in and was in his room and was like, hey, no,
if you want to be on TV, you write it
down and you look at this every day and you
can be on TV. And so he did. He wrote
in his room, he looked at it, so that was
that he saw it every day. And then I think eventually,
once he did become famous, he sent that teacher a
new TV for Christmas every year until she died. It's like,

(33:03):
so you can watch me on the biggest, best TV.
To see me on TV? Yeah, and so, and it
is interesting how I mean, thankfully had someone speak into
him to remind him, no, you can do this, because
there's so many things, even in my own head from
my childhood that were said to me that I began
to believe, and then that becomes the path for you,
because you know, if you're led to believe something about yourself,

(33:27):
like oh, that's out of the park dream like it's impossible.
I can't have it because something you look up to
you that's don't Why would you put that? That's not
a proper answer, but to him it was, and she
kind of shot him down. That could have been his
only exposure to that. But thankfully again he had someone
step in like it's I'm pretty sure it was his
dad and say, no, you can do this, but I

(33:49):
think of things that limited me. Yes, That's what I
mean is like words matter, especially to children. You never
know what trajectory you're putting them on if they feel
limited in any way, or even our own self talk
like self doubt, and I've had to shut up yeah
that I'm even going into something that I'm nervous about.
I just have to like internally pulp myself off, like

(34:11):
you can do this, You're awesome, even though I'm like, no,
you're not. And then then it becomes this this battle
instead of me being like I'm not awesome, I'm not,
you're not, but at least I'm trying. At least I'm
trying to counter out the negative and being like you've
got this, you're the best, Like you can do this,
but I do think there is something of like pumping
yourself up in that way, and even in those little

(34:33):
moments where if you mess up, like we mess up
on the show, or do different things, or saying something
that you wish you could take back and you can't.
And sometimes my response myself as oh, they're so stupid,
so stupid. But if I know if my son does
something and I hear him be like I'm so stupid,
I'm like no, and I want him to stop that

(34:53):
so much. And I have to take my own advice
because I don't even in those moments that I mess up,
I don't want to refer to myself even though I
don't really mean it, but you don't do that is
not healthy. So and I know that I'm not the
only one out there that does it, but it's a
hard pattern to break this. We get stuck in our heads.
And I think the where it really hits us is
when our in our school age. I remember like me

(35:15):
as a as a kid in from K through twelve
is a totally different person from me as my twenties
thirties and becoming an adult because as a kid, it's
it's what like you said, your parents, the all the
things in school, teachers, your peers. You get stuck in
your head of things you think you can't do because
because the things they've told you. But one thing I
told my nephew one time, I was I think. He

(35:36):
was like, he's about to go in to high school.
And I was like, dude, I was like, remember this.
I was like, none of this means crap. He's what
do you mean. I'm like, Mike, well, you want to
be nice, to be a kind person, be a good person, um,
treat others with respect. I was like, but out start
of that, none of this matters. This is just high school.
I was like, don't live in your head, don't be
stuck in your head. Don't care what anyone else thinks. Um.
I was like, just be you, do you because these

(35:58):
are four years that are never gonna matter ever again
except for just these four years. And I gave that
advice because for me and those four years, I was
so stuck in my freaking head. I felt like I
can't do anything. I couldn't do anything right. I was
very athletic, like, and when I would play with my friends,
I was really good at basketball, really good at football.
But I couldn't gain the courage to go to go
to the tryouts because I felt like I was going

(36:20):
to fail because my dad would always call me or
say things to me about being a failure or being
a loser or whatever. So I would project that into
my everyday life and go, I can't go to trys
because I'm a loser, not gonna make it, And then
come to find out pretty much everyone could go on
the freshman team was a walk on. I could have
been a part of the freshman team, and then I
could have gained my confidence and I could have gone
on to university and varsity and probably would have been

(36:40):
a really good athlete and had fun doing it. But
I got stuck in my head because of outside people.
So my advice to him and anyone who has really
just shut everyone out. And I guess combining your advice
of pepping yourself up, not not listening to others, and
then pepping yourself up to know that whatever is you
want to do, you can do it. The only one
stopping you is only you. Well, and I'm sorry that

(37:02):
one of those voices in your head like that an
actual voice actually not in your head, but it was
your your dad being that voice, but then you're hearing
him in your head over and over. Sorry that that
was your experience. How has that molded you into the
type of father you want to be for your kids?
He said, as an example, to be the exact opposite. Right,

(37:22):
Oh yeah, exact opposite. I'm way more connected with my
kids as far as spiritually and and and making sure
that they're happy and giving them the tools that they want,
our need to pursue and try and let them explore
and figure out who they want to be. I know,
the one's only one in three. It's they're not that
old yet where they're at the point like your kids
where they're making real decisions and choices and um. But

(37:43):
trying to instill it in them now to like supporting them,
like whenever they do anything, I make a big deal
of it and make them like that was awesome. That
was so cool, dude, that was really cool. Or when
he tries to figure something out even though he made
a huge mess, I realized what he was doing. He
was trying to explore and figure out what these things did,
and why he took something apart was because he maybe
he wants to become an engineer and I don't want
to halt that from him because I was like, oh,

(38:04):
you took apart your train. Now it's all in shambles.
And but but for him, it was fun because you
got to take it apart and you got to figure
out how it worked and what this did and what
that did. And most parents were like, you're you're an idiot,
clean that up? Making well, I mean, I feel like
our parents are growing up would be like you're making
a huge mess. Well what the hell are you doing here?
Clean this crap up? But like me, I'm just like,
it's a huge mess. And yeah, I was like, oh

(38:24):
my god, I gotta clean this up and put it
back together. But I was like, no, he's actually having
fun picking this apart. And I see him like looking
at the gears and and ripping apart this train that
that should be ripped apart. But I see him exploring
and trying to figure out how it works. And so
I'm like, I don't want to I don't want to
yell at him and get mad at him, because what
if he's really fascinated with that, and what if that
what if I squashed his dreams of whatever that turns into.

(38:47):
I don't know that that could become an engineer, he
could become somebody who manufact I don't know. I just
I don't want to turn anything down and make him
feel like, you know, I'm trying to figure out the
right wording for it. But is still in curiosity. Yeah, everything,
especially for a child. Even as adults, we need to
remain curious. But it's so important for kids to have
that curiosity. It's everything. And if it gets yeah, if

(39:10):
it gets squashed, like curiosity for me was killed constantly,
and so I basically that's so so I want to
make sure my kids have the ability to be curious
and to be kids and to have a life. For me,
my my childhood was cut short because my parents got
a divorce when I was ten. I was the oldest
of four, so I had to become more of an
adult at the age of ten, like from trying to

(39:30):
find work. I worked, Um, I got paid in trade
and sold it on eBay. It's a super long story,
but I've worked. I helped helped watch the kids, I
helped watch my baby sister. I was like not a dad,
but like a bigger older brother at the age of ten,
so I never really got to have the childhood that
most kids have. So I was okay, So for my kid,
I want to make sure they have no burdens. I

(39:51):
want to make sure they can be kids. I want
to make sure that they can just enjoy life care free,
which I didn't get to have. So I think that's
the biggest thing, is care free instability, because those are
two things that didn't have. Was uh for those Yeah? Yeah,
Well I can tell all the time that you're a
great dad and you're a great executive producer as well. Appreciate. Yeah,

(40:15):
we're happy to have you a part of this family
for sure. And before we go, I'd love to hear
things that you're thankful for. Big on gratitude here. So
I have guests here four things that they're thankful for
and sometimes we get specific, sometimes not. But with you,
I want to know specifically a book that you're thankful for,

(40:35):
a TV show, an Instagram follow, and a drink. Okay, Uh,
So we'll start with a book. And for me, I
have kids, so I don't really read too many books.
For myself, I read books of them every single night.
And we subscribe to this monthly thing as Dolly Parton's
Imagination Library. Yes, yeah. Yeah. Basically once a month you
mails your book, you get it read to the kids.

(40:55):
Is great. So the one that I read read to
him frequently is called Just Like My Other and it's
a great book about a little sister, which he has
a little sister now, and just what she goes through
and how she compared herself to her older brother. So
that's a great book. I love it. And I think
also too, that's an awesome thing for parents listening, or
aunts or uncle's if they want to sign their kids

(41:16):
or nieces or nephews up with the Imagination Library. It's awesome.
It's like an Oprah's book Club for kids pretty much.
It's really really cool. Okay, what about a TV show?
TV show I have an adult and a kid. The
kid is Bluie Blue is an animated show on Disney
and watch on Disney Plus. And it's one of those
shows it's good for kids but also for adults. I
think I've cried like three or four times watching it,

(41:38):
just because of how the messages and and the payoff
in the end is. It's awesome and I love the
Australian accents. I've not seen that one yet. What's the
adult one? The old one is called The Righteous Gemstones.
It's on HBO and it's got John Goodman, HBO Max,
HBO Max. Yeah, you can get on HBO Max. Um.
Season one came out and I hadn't had chance to

(41:58):
watch it, so I started watching at recently John Goodman,
Danny McBride who creates a lot of HBO shows like
He's Spounding Down Uh and Adam Divine. It's a comedy
about a televangelist TV church and their family and all
the corruption that's going on with them. I think season
two is coming out this year. Oh, since you mentioned
HBO Max and also corruption televangelis and type stuff. Um.

(42:21):
Tammy Faye Baker movie is also on HBO Max. Throw
that out there as a recommendation for people to watch.
It's pretty fascinating. She was married her and her husband
Jim Baker. They were televangelists back in the day. Well, yeah,
I remember they have a commercials. I think they're trying
to like hawk ceds out maybe all kinds of stuff. Yeah, yeah,
what about an Instagram follow? An Instagram follow would be

(42:42):
this guy named Caleb Pressley's part of that Barrowstool Sports
group and he does these interviews and they are hilarious.
So'll interview like celebrities and actors and comedians and stuff,
and he interviews them in like a sit down like
I Got You kind of interview. It's obviously a joke,
it's not real, but he'll sit down with like, for example,
Bert Kresher, he's a comedian, and he'll interview him in

(43:04):
a way where it's like and I got you, like
so Bert talking about that one time where it's got
dramatic music playing and everything, but it's just it's comedic
and it's hilarious. It's super funny, very random, and they're quick.
They're like two three minute long videos and they're really
really funny. Caleb Presley p r e s s l
e y No. I love a good Instagram follow that
offers humor because it's got to social for like to

(43:27):
help make you good things. The negativity. What about a
drink and a drink? I love these aloe drinks a
l oh. They're like they're drinks like little I get
him at Costco. They're coming out pack but it's basically
an aloe vera drink and inside there is these like
little jelly pieces kind of similar to a boba, but
they're so refreshing, chunks of valo plant. Yeah, and like

(43:50):
a gel form, like gummy gel form, and I put
him in the freezer for a little bit so they
get a little hard, and uh, it's it's really refreshing.
It's freaking delicious. And so it's a l o a
l oh. Yeah, come like a watermelon, honey and all
flavor and all kinds of stuff. But it's really really good.
I'll have to look for those because I'm trying to
find ways to help hydrate my kids more. They don't
ever want to drink water or anything. And anytime I

(44:11):
try to tell them, your body needs water, they always
pulled this on me. They're like, we're from Haiti. Mom.
At the orphanage, we never had water. And I'm like,
you can't say never, because I know that, like they
did have some, but they're not wrong. It's not like
they had access to just water all the time, but
they got used to not drinking it, so they didn't
have that much just out of like they had once

(44:33):
a well was put in and they had like the
water bottles they could fill up. I mean sometimes they
would maybe run out, but they had to have water
to survive. I'm like, you you had water, you just don't.
But they can go. I'm impressed sometimes how long they
go without having water. So I'm going to pick up alo.
It's like a new way to try to add some hydration.

(44:54):
Which I when you first said a l O, I'm like, wait,
I'm wearing a l O l O. I think it's
how you say at yoga pants. It's a new at
leisure brand that I've really been liking, but two totally
different companies. Yes, I saw. I thought you were like
a big fan of the drink. I'm like, well, I'm
gonna have another fan next to me, but no, no,
these are just my hants. Um okay, well, Steve, thank
you so much again. And people can find you on Instagram.

(45:16):
Your handle is at Scuba Steve Radio Radio. Is it okay? Yeah?
I don't have at Scuba te some guy got it
and I got on Instagram like really really far on,
like when it first came out because I was living
in San Francisco. I was created and it was like
two thousand nine and some guy already had Scuba Steve.
I was like it just came out, So Scuba Steve
Radio is sorry, I forgot that part. You know, Amy

(45:41):
Brown was taken. That's why I'm Radio Amy. Yeah, but
Scuba is Steve is not your real name? Yeah, that's
your People have their radio given names, and that is
is yours, just like Bobby Bones isn't his real name,
and lunch Box is not his real name. It's not
just kind of I knows his real name. It makes

(46:02):
me laugh a little when I ever, right, his wife,
that's what she calls him. Everyone calls him Lunchbox except
for his wife. And when she says it, I'm like, oh,
that just feels weird. But it is his name, of course,
and she's never going to call my nickname would be
weird to match him to me. Do you feel like
that name matches his name? No, it doesn't, It doesn't
at all. Yeah, I know, if you're listening right now

(46:24):
and you listen to the Big Show, it's like Jason Gibble,
he says that is his real name, and it's not.
I mean, I'm not going to out his real name here,
but I mean a quick Google search and he looks
more like a Jason than he does his real name.
I know. Yeah, So anyway, all right, I'll must say
thank you awesome and I'll see you tomorrow. And yeah,
y'all follow Scuba Steve Radio on Socials and then you

(46:47):
can also call him eight seven seven seventies seven Bobby.
And really he sits right next to phone screen or Abbey,
So if you just say, hey, Abby, I want to
talk to if she can pass him the phone

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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Chasing Dreams. Manifestations. Curiosity. Gratitude.