February 29, 2024 • 42 mins
FIRST THING: We all screw up once and a while. Amy & Chase talk about what you can do when it happens so that you're able to move forward vs. getting stuck because of a mistake.
SECOND THING: Encouragement to let go of what is no longer serving you, stop resisting & surrender.
THIRD THING: Gratitude. Amy & Chase share 4 things they're thankful for!
FOURTH THING: Giving back + Be a Craig + One Country's Lake House Giveaway
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HOST:
Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy
Guest:
Chase Locke // @chaselocke_
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Cats up little food for yourself life. Oh it's pretty bad. Hey,
it's pretty beautiful, man, beautiful that for a little more
said he You're kicking with four with Amy Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Happy Thursday. Four Things Amy here and back by popular
demand is Chase Locke.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hello, Hello Chase.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
He used to join me back in the day. If
you've been a long time listener, you know he was
my sort of o G co host on the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah. I guess you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Would read the emails and then I would answer them,
and then Kat came on as the therapist replace me. Well,
I realized a lot of the questions I was not
qualified to answer, so it felt good to have her
on as a co host. And then you moved, like
you were living in Nashville, then you moved. Now you're
in Arkansas, but you're from Kansas. Chase's family just to
(01:09):
paint a picture is like the Yellowstone, the real life
Yellowstone Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, I mean, but not like the Yellowstone.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
That's I mean, you're not like murdering each other.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But my dad does have Kevin Costner vibe.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah. So so I'm happy to have you here, and
we're going to do an og style Four Things episode
each thing is going to be totally different, and the
first thing that we're going to do here is messing
up at work and like how to not let it
completely get you down? Because I just messed up big
time on the podcast and I thought it was just
(01:43):
going to be between me and Morgan Massingale, who was
my guest, and it was actually for the fifth thing
earlier this week. She ended up not being my guest.
If you listened to that, you didn't hear her, because well,
we recorded it in Bobby's office, which is where we
are right now. We're at the iHeart Studios in Nashville.
The Bobby Bone Show just raped Chase and Patrick just
got here. Patrick is his business partner. Say hey Patrick,
(02:05):
Hey Patrick. So we're sitting here having good time recording
and I'm like, hold on, Jase. Before we hit record,
I got to go get headphones because I didn't have
my headphones when I was recording with Morgan on Tuesday,
and I thought, and no problem, we'll just hit record.
We're all good. Well, we did a really good episode
and she shared a lot about her dating life. I'm
(02:27):
going to try to get her back on to repeat
some of it because she dated a narcissist for two years,
and she was talking about some of the red flags
that were there, how she didn't see it then, how
she felt stuck in the pattern and how she couldn't
get out, And I felt like it would have been
a really helpful episode for some people just to see
maybe you know, not necessarily that people are dating narcissists,
but sometimes even just being aware that you're in an
unhealthy pattern and what to do about that. And so
(02:52):
it was a really good conversation. It came up because
of that very popular TikTok situation. Right now, who the
blank did I marry? So that's how we were talking
about that. Well, I did not have her microphone up
and so the audio is just me, So that's not
gonna work, not gonna work at all. So I thought, well,
this is just between me and Houston, my producer, and Morgan.
(03:16):
I informed her and she was like, oh good, because
I feel like I overshared, so maybe this is a
good thing.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Again.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I'm gonna trying to get her back on though, because
it really was good. So Lunchbox found out about it,
and then he brought it to the Bobby Bone Show
yesterday as a bonehead story of the day, and I thought, okay, well,
now everybody knows and I feel as though I am
a professional in this field. I've been in radio for
(03:41):
almost eighteen years. I should know what I'm doing. I
should check levels and volumes, and sometimes you make a
rookie mistake. But then when they brought up the bonehead
story of the day and that I was a bonehead
for doing that, they brought up a couple of other
times where I have messed up on the podcast, like
a time where I was an acupunctural point and I
accidentally didn't make it to an interview that I had.
(04:04):
And why I say that was an accidents because I
thought I was literally laying on that table for thirty minutes. Well,
he decided to lay me there and then the next
thing you know, I fell asleep. It was two hours
and he didn't want to wake me and I had
needles all in my head. And that was during my exhausted,
horrible phase of life. I was tired. Yeah, so I
stood up an interview and I felt horrible. She had grace,
(04:26):
she understood. Well. Then there was another time I was
interviewing doctor Becky, who's a parenting expert. She's very popular
on Instagram. Patrick, your dad, you shouldn't follow her great tips. Well,
I'm so excited to have her. I'm nervous she's on Zoom.
I'm like, this is such a great interview for me.
I can't believe I booked her. And then fifteen minutes
(04:47):
another interview, I realized I didn't hit record on the
Zoom audio. Oh no, and I need that for her audio.
So again I'm left with only my audio. Anywho'sy. She
had grace for me too, So I'm very and I
feel like that's three mess ups and how many years.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I'll say, even the best of the best make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, so I would love for you to share a time.
Maybe you've messed up at work, and then if anybody
else has messed up at work, I'm going to go
through a guide to help you move forward after your
mess up. And maybe you don't mess up at work.
Maybe you've messed up in a friendship or a relationship
or something else. But it's looping in your head like
you're a failure. What's wrong with you? You're an idiot,
(05:27):
You're so stupid, that's my narrative. Yeah, how do you
even have this job, and I've got a guide for
when we mess up. This is what we need to do.
So do you have any mess ups at work? Are
you perfect?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well? Patrick's perfect, but uh no. I mean I feel
like I mess up every day and for me, the
thing that has always helped and I'm like, as I
get a little more wise each year that passes is
like identifying it and just owning it really early, because
if I let it fester, then I go down that
rabbit hole that you were just talking about. But I
(06:00):
would say my typical mess up where I'm catching myself
is I say what I'm thinking out a little too abruptly. Well,
just matter of fact, when I'm like, I need to
like filter that a little bit in the trust circle
because they might receive that is criticism when I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To you know, get feedback.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, you bet so. I mean that's a consistent like,
oh crap, I messed up in my head.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
As the CEO of You ever felt like you messed
up with hiring decisions?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yes, I have, and I think that's something that I mean,
in those situations, you got to make that correction quickly
because you know it impacts everyone else and so yeah,
I mean that's those are the least favorite mess.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Ups well, because then you have to not only deal
with the mess up you made in your own mind,
but then you have to let the person go, which is.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Too bad because there's like sometimes it's not that necessarily
they did anything. I mean, they did do something wrong,
but it's sometimes just not the right fit for the culture.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Is this Patrick expressing that he feels as though you
don't make wise hiring decisions.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know. I'm like, you know, we'll take this.
We'll talk about personnel off the show, Patrick, But.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, circle back on between y'all in the car after
you leave here. But this is how you move on
after you've messed up at work or maybe just messed
up in general. I feel like this could even apply
to parents. Sometimes we mess up and you maybe reacting
away with your kids you didn't want to or you're
not proud of, and so this could I think apply
to that as well. Step one, allow yourself to feel
(07:36):
awful about it, but not for too long, so like,
don't just stuff it down, be like Okay, I can
feel bad about this, and the volume down on the
podcast microphone. Again, that's not a big deal, is it? However,
I respect people's time, and Morgan sat here for thirty
minutes and took time out of her day to do that,
and so then I felt bad for her wasting her time.
(07:58):
But then when all of your coworkers, who all have
their own podcasts and clearly they checked as the of
the volumes up just another little like it kind of
like whack the mole. Like sometimes you get up and
then it's like you're not feeling that great about yourself anyway,
and then boom, you get whacked down. You're like, because
sometimes I wonder why am I here? What am I
even doing? And then that sort of solidifies, like, well,
(08:19):
just whack me down and be like I knew I
wasn't supposed to be here. But that's not always the
narrative in my mind.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But sometimes it can be.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
For sure sharing with you that I have those thoughts.
Step two keep things in perspective, which I feel like,
that's what I just did a little bit, so you
can walk through that for yourself. Step three, confront your
worst case scenario and then let it go. Why are
you giving big eyes to Patrick?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So we had some conversation yesterday when we were flying
over that leadership in our company. Sometimes it's my job
specifically to anticipate kind of the worst and maybe think
about more than negative, like what could go wrong just
in case something doesn't work out. We have kind of
a quick plan of action, but sometimes in our conversation
(09:05):
it can come across like I'm pretty negative, and so
we were just talking through that this morning. I said, Hey,
we talked about it, playing through it. I'm going to
put that back on the shelf and now we're just
going to focus on the good and the positive. But
I mean, that's something we've talked about a lot, because
sometimes you know, as the leaders, you have to anticipate
what could go wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, I'm glad you bring that up, because that's actually
Step four. Create a game plan for next time. And
my game plan this time was before we sat down
to record, I went and got my headphones so I
can make sure we are all good to go. And
sounds like that's what y'all do at your company. Step five.
Apologize if you need to, but don't overdo it. I
apologize to Morgan. Do y'all need to make up about something?
(09:46):
Do you need to apologize to Patrick?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
For no? I kind of did this morning. I mean we,
but I can. It's funny you say that he will
probably say that I overapologize, So that's funny that that
mentions mentioned sex. I think I could be guilty of, Like, hey,
I've said I'm sorry too many times just because I
want to.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
This makes me think of Actually, when I apologize to Morgan,
somewhere in our conversation as we were talking about a
few other things, she was like, hey, yeah, I'm I'm sorry,
da da da, like she was saying sorry for something,
and I stopped her and I said, Morgan, do not
say you're sorry. Don't apologize or use the word sorry
when you don't need to. It's because I feel like
(10:24):
that's especially a woman thing or women are known to
do that is sorry, sorry, sorry, oh sorry, oh hate sorry,
hate to interrupt, And it's like, well sorry about there's
nothing to be sorry about, so just eliminating that. But
also if you do need to say sorry and apologize
to do that, okay, we're step six take better care
of yourself. And I was reading more in the article
(10:46):
about this, and it was like, if you're taking care
of yourself, you can be on your a game for
this sort of stuff, and I do feel like, back
to the parenting example, like when I'm sort of worn out,
that's when I mess up more as a parent. But
it was talking about how we should be treating ourselves
like professional athletes, like worrying about our sleep, our work,
our fuel, how we're training, all the things. And then
(11:09):
you notice more clarity and fewer errors in your life
if you are training like an athlete, which does make
me think of how Bobby always says he's always training
like stay ready, never got to get ready.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
This is hilarious because we've had so much not in
this context, but conversation around this, because I was just
telling him last year I was kind of operating in
a state of just exhaustion. You know that We've talked
a lot, and I was like, this year, I have
to be really deliberate about what taking care of myself
looks like so I can also better myself. And anyways,
(11:40):
I mean we were talking about that in the lobby this.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Morning too, So what are you doing to live like
a professional athlete?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I mean, I'll start with saying, just because you influenced me,
I got a cold plunge. You know, I saw everyone
posting about it. I'm like, Okay, this is a fad
and probably overhyped, but it's really helped me first and
almost sleep better.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well, you got the one on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You said it's like ninety nine bucks, because I was like,
if I'm gonna invest in something bigger, I want to
make sure i'm doing this. And it's perfect, like throw
a bag of ice and it stays cold for like
three days. But I love it and it's been a
little step in taking care of myself.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Why won't you just send me the exact one you
got on Amazon and I'll link it in the show
notes in case I want to test it out. Because
this is one that's been used by Chase and even
Patrick two you use it as well.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
He apparently ordered me one and is sending it to
my house. But I've had this motto for a long time.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No pain, no pain.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
No pain, no pain.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, and so I just.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I don't know how it's gonna work for me.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Wait, can you explain no pain, no pain, because obviously
it's a play on no pain no gain.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Well, I mean, if you don't experience pain, then there's
no pain you avoid every day, which I don't really
attest to.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That in all things, but okay, so you're not going
to get into a freezing cold water.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Just wanted to say it, and then y'all kind of choking,
we move on. I don't know if I have to
explain it well.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I wanted to clarify what no pain, no pain, no pain,
no pain. I get it. As a good model to
live by, you got to.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Have a little pain to have a little gain. And
I think there's truth in that. And to what you're saying,
I mean, to better yourself sometimes you got to go
through hard things, but in coming out of that, you've
got to identify what you're going to do to take
care of yourself so you could show up for those
that rely on you and show up for yourself. I'm
not just saying this because we're talking about it. It's
a huge thing in my life right now, trying to
(13:32):
figure out because I realize not taking care of myself
doesn't allow me to show up for the people that
rely on me. And when I saw it that way,
because I was just going to a point of exhaustion
thinking like I got to do what I need to
do to serve everyone and make sure and I'll say
that like self righteously. But you know, the people that
(13:52):
rely on me that I do what I need to
to make sure they have what they need and that
we're having success. But man, it whip me last year.
So I'm learning, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I have to learn how to make sure I've
got content for my listeners. They're showing up, I you know,
serving them in a way with something, which I still learned.
Later in the afternoon, I had no episode, and I
went upstairs when I was at home and I recorded something.
So something went up.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, and it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Just wasn't what I had spent time with Morgan on
and so I still felt that it was important. But
had I been on my a game, who knows, maybe
I wouldn't have messed up with Morgan if I had
been eating and sleeping and training better or something. Which
speaking of listeners, did you know I got a phone
number like a voicemail line the podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh you should say this, Patrick is going to leave
the podcast. So many voicemails.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Okay, please leave me one. That would be so fun.
Eight seven seven two o seven two o seven seven.
You're like fake putting it down. You just acted. I
saw you eight seven seven two oh seven play the voicemail.
See what happens when you call it. Hey, this is
Dannie Brown. It's a Poor Things podcast. Thanks for calling.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Leave a message.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Maybe I'll get play on the future episode The fifth
Thing with Kat.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
If you've got a.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Question, or if you have something encouraging you want to
share a quote, a story wherever you want to stay here,
this is your chance, thanks by m.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Is your refrigerator?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Oh okay, finish the joke because is your refrigerator running? Yeah? Okay,
Oh my gosh, all right, Patrick, that's awesome that, you.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Know what, I'm laughing because that sounds to me not
to do the comparison, but that had Delilah vibes. And
I mean that that's like the compliment of all compliments
because oh, you know, she's the greatest.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I know Delilah for sure. Well there you go. If
you've messed up in any way, shape or form, there's
your guide to get over it quickly. That's how many steps.
Seven steps. Oh I didn't go back to, did I? Seven? Step?
Earn back your trust through your actions, not just your words. Boom,
that's step seven. We'll wrap with that one. And I
feel like I'm already earning back trust I came in
(16:13):
with my actions, put my headphones in, check the volume,
and here we are crushing.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
It all right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So I got a newsletter from Ali Fallon. She's the
host of Write Your Story podcast. I love her newsletters,
and the subject line was stop resisting, and I thought, oh,
I'm intrigued. So I click on it and I'm just
going to read to you what she shared. It's pretty short,
and then we can discuss. She goes, stop resisting. I
said what I said. I've shared before that the last
(16:51):
three years have been hard for me. One of the
main reasons is because I've been in resistance to what
was unfolding in my life. Life was trying to teach
me to slow down. Once I really listened to what
my life was trying to show me, I had to act,
which meant deleting five thousand emails without reading them, firing
all of my employees one of the worst days of
(17:13):
my life, and letting go of absolutely everything that wasn't
one hundred percent necessary. There was a lot of pain
and heartbreak associated with those things. But since I've stopped resisting,
things have gotten dramatically better, And I wonder if that
might be true for you. Let go of what's not
important and the rest will follow. And then she encouraged
(17:34):
people to journal with this writing prompt, how has resisting
change impacted your well being and overall life experience? Right
for five to ten minutes, and let me tell you
how many emails I have that just oh, I have
three hundred and seventy three unread emails and three hundred
and seventy nine unread text messages. And the red dots
(17:58):
don't really bother me. I often can't relate to those
that get anxiety over my red dots. But I do
wonder if subconsciously somewhere seeing those numbers and knowing I
have things hanging over me that maybe don't even really matter,
Like some of those emails, I just need to like
clear them so I can have a clear space. It's
(18:18):
almost like decluttering, and something in me will feel better
knowing that I've handled that. And I don't know why
why I'm resisting just doing it. I know that I
for sure have slowed down a lot in the last
two months, so much so that I've been very confused
by it. Like I'm enjoying shows like laying on my couch,
like I've watched more movies the last three months of
(18:40):
December January February than I've watched in a very long
time in all my couch. I normally I watch things
on my computer and I carried around house while I'm
doing laundry or blow dry my hair, you know, and
I miss things, yeah, because I'm not totally paying attention.
But I do neurofeedback. Do you know the low energy
neuro back. It's called Len's therapy. Sherry the owner of
(19:02):
Harmonized Brain Center. She's come on my podcast before and
explained everything about neurofeedback and what it does. You can
go listen to that. But she told me that she
thinks my brain is just adjusting to less trauma and
it's in a transition phase because I was used to
so much we'll call it drama trauma, drama, yeah, for
(19:22):
such a long time, and I was living in survival
mode and go, go, go, And then now I'm sort
of like slowing down and able to rest, and it's
weird and I'm like, what is happening and what do
I do? And that this is part of the process,
So then I'm going to level out. It's sort of
like the pendulum sort of swing here and there, and
then I'm going to find my groove. So we're well
(19:43):
on our way. Yep, We're to find our groove. Is
there anything in life you're resisting, Chase?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I mean, I think I resist a lot every day.
It's funny, like I don't usually have a word for
the year, but I've been using the words surrender a
lot because I just have to, like, in general, surrender
the day.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So what does it look like when you decide to
surrender the day? Do you do that at the start
of the day or all throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
That is my prayer in the morning, and it is
my prayer throughout the day when I'm starting to feel
like I'm getting frustrated or anxious or trying to keep
everything within my control. You've got to do the best
I can. I have to surrender the rest. It's funny
that this is another topic. So I also said this morning,
like I feel most comfortable in not chaos, but like
(20:27):
the tough stuff. And so I'm learning to find my
own rhythm of when it's like, oh, this is what
relaxed feels like. But it's like that's a very unnatural
feeling for me because I'm just a little more high
strung and like always wanting to work towards the next
thing and get better and get better. And I'm incredibly
hard on myself and all of that too, So that's
(20:50):
I give grace to everyone else for the most part.
I'm pretty good at that, but don't I don't give
it to myself.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Lisa Haym was on the podcast with me a few
weeks ago, and we talked about that and getting comfortable
with the uncomfortable so that you can work your way
through stuff. And sometimes we are comfortable with the stress,
the drama, the survival mode, the five flight whatever, and
then when we don't have it, we're uncomfortable, so we
either create more drama somehow or we have to sit
(21:18):
with it and get comfortable so that way we can
work our way through it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
We got to get comfortable with the comfortable. I mean,
for me, that's sometimes what I got to work on, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I feel like my friend was dating this guy that
she didn't understand why everything was so easy and calm,
and she was kind of associating with being a little
bit lame and she didn't know if she really liked him.
And Therapy Cat she has a lot of insight on
sometimes like, well, actually, what if this is actually just
(21:49):
what a stable relationship looks like and it's a secure
attachment style instead of you know, anxious or avoidant and
there's all this other drama here and there. It's like,
what if this is actually just a healthy person?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yep. Wow, it's funny. The thing that I one thing
out of all your podcasts that I keep with me
and I think applies to multiple things. But even this
was Do you remember when you interviewed doctor Beverly Tatum. Yeah,
and I remember she we were talking about race in
America at the time, and you know, everyone was trying
to learn more, how to do better, how to be better.
(22:27):
She said, we need to not always talk about what
we need to learn. We need to talk more about
what we need to unlearn. And I think that applies
in a lot of these things where I just am
programmed over thirty five years to be the way I am.
Not that it's right, but it's not like I need
to like learn my way to a new solution. I
need to focus on the things that aren't true and
(22:47):
unwine that, not to get two sideways. But I think
that's that applies here I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Unlearned is really good, which Chase is sounding very healthy
right now. Your training is working here, our training is working.
And hey, girls chases on Hinge. So if you're ever
in the Fayetteville, Arkansas area, switch your location and you
may match with him when you come to Nashville. Do
you change your location in Nashville?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No, I have changed it once. But it's funny. I
mean there's been Nashville people that I've connected with, but
maybe it's because they were traveling through. I'm still like Hinge. Yeah,
I know, it's learning.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It's a whole thing. I think I'm going to have
someone from Hinge on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh sign me up.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I saw an
email come through, so I don't know if it's been booked.
But when I saw the email, I forwarded it off
and I was like, yes, let's book this. Because Kat
got married to a guy from Hinge. Chase and I
are on Hinge, and I think just the whole dating
app thing, but also human behavior. I mean, I feel
like these dating apps they have a lot of research
(23:53):
on us, they know a lot about.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
No doubt people. Yeah, but also like, how do you yeah,
not to get into this, but like the communication, Like
I'm having to give myself grace that I'm like learning
how to meet someone on an apt way when I'm
such an in person. I mean, you know, like I
pick up the phone and call not a great text
or not.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I think that you just need to be upfront with
someone that you may be connect with, like hey, using
this app, Like I don't go out that much, but
be like, I'm not opposed to going out, like if
I want to take you out or your homebody. But
I don't know. I'm just saying, maybe you clarify just
so you know, I'm not a very big Texter if
we want to move to phone calls. Anything's just setting
(24:34):
the expectation of what type of communicator you are. Patrick
has thoughts.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, I just how do I don't understand how the
hinge work. So you it matches you up with someone,
they think.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, it's not the Hinge, it's just Hinge.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's like okay, the Instagram, So.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It matches you up after it learns all about you
with someone they think that you'd marry.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, it's similar to any of the other dating apps
in the world. But you've been married for how long?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Yeah, since before dating apps, right, so it's never hinged.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's good that you have questions, and I think that
for Hinge, which is the only one I can speak to,
you load up your profile and then Hinge will match
you based on things that you have entered in, like
your likes, your dislikes, whatever what you're looking for, and
then you can either reach out to that person first
by commenting on a photo or answering one of their questions,
(25:26):
or sending them a rose. Ever, I don't understand the roses,
but I have their digital It's like when you open
it up, this little rose goes and it like builds
before your eyes and you're like, oh, I got a rose.
So then communication has started, but not that person has
(25:46):
to then reply to your reply. I have not reached
out to any guys. I have not initiated conversation because
either I'm just not bold enough. This is still new
to me. I haven't done that. But if a guy
has initiated conversation with me, I have engaged in conversations
and then I've replied back, or if I got the
rows like I'm like oh hi, and then that will
(26:08):
match you. Up, and then you get moved to a
conversation section of your app, and that's where your conversation.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
So the only way you can get matched up is
if you initiate contact.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's not the app telling you.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Know the app. The app is saying you may be
compatible with this person based on what they've entered and
what you've entered.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
That's one one know.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Because I have a further question, so what does the
app say about you two together?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It hasn't matched me up with Chase.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Why there's a well, there's a reddit thread out.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
There that's what? Wait? What god?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Patrick?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Wait is there?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, this is the one Fazzio said he like from
forever again.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Oh, I forgot about that. I know there's a Reddit
thread about you being gay, but.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well that was the same thread.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, that's the part I remember, and.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Then it went into like a million.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Different Oh yeah, no, chasing the BFF friends of BFF BFF, Yeah, yes,
is I mean? Because we've been friends since twenty and thirteen.
That's a long time.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, over ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And I define BFF as someone we don't have to
talk all the time, but either one of us could
call each other at any given hour. And it's like,
what do you need?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
For sure? And there's a lot of mutual grace with
the other, which I appreciate about our friendship for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
All Right, I feel like the original thing here was
stop resisting, So we'll just stop there, stop resisting, and
get onto the next thing.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
We got third thing, all right?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
For this thing, I want to do four things gratitude.
I'm going to share two things I'm thankful for, and
then you can share two things you're thankful for and
two plus two is or do you know Keanu Reeves saying,
for like, when he's just over somebody and he does
don't want to deal with it, or he's not going
to let their attitude or their way of thinking or
whatever they have going on impact his day, He'll be like,
all right tooplus, Sue five. Cool, you're right toopleus, Sue
(28:10):
is five. And then he just like walks away.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, that's wise.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's wise. Sometimes you have to have to do that.
Do you want to go first? Do you want me
to go first?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You go first?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Maybe I'll go first. I got an email from a
listener named Kaylin, and I wanted to read that because
I'm very thankful for her encouragement. The email for the
podcast is four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com.
By the way, she's like, good morning, Amy. I'm catching
up on a few episodes and heard you mention that
you don't feel like an adult when it comes to
certain areas of your life now that you are single.
While there may be financial, auto or maintenance type things
(28:41):
that you're not familiar with, you have to view the
full spectrum. Maybe your husband had handled those tasks, but
think of what you handled while in your marriage. Laundry,
household things, maintaining family schedule, being in tune with kids needs,
coordinating plans or events with friends, family travel needs, groceries,
cooking while you were experiencing this adjustment period, just remember
(29:04):
your role that you played in your household was vital
and that no one can do it all. You had
a partner to share in those responsibilities. That is God's
intent for marriage that you would be a helper to
one another. Even though you helped in different ways, you
each contributed to your household day in and day out,
and that is being an adult with love. Kaylin. Okay, Now,
(29:25):
while Kaylen's just kind of guessing what we each had
responsibilities for which Ben would help with household chores inside,
but like I never did the yard. I mean maybe
sometimes I would pull weeds or something, but I don't
know how to weed eater law moo, and he would
grill and then I would do the cooking inside. And
you know, we divvied things up, but I never saw
that as me being an adult, just because the finances
(29:46):
seem more important. So if he's handling the finances, that
seems very adult like, or handling big projects around the house.
But I will say Christmas gifts, birthday presence, calendar's family schedule, Yeah,
like it was. If it's somebody's birthday is normally falling
on me, and I would get that done most of
the time.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, most of the time.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And so anyway, Caylin, I just appreciated your email, Like
I appreciated the encouragement, and I wanted to share it
as one of my things that I'm thankful for because
maybe somebody else needed to hear that. Maybe it's divvied
up a different way in your home, or you feel
less than because maybe you don't think like your responsibilities
are as important. But I think everybody's role is important
(30:26):
to keep the whole ecosystem flowing, and I am an adult.
I've taken over my finances. Rocket Money has helped me
in a big way getting all that together, because you know,
if I had to log into a bank account of
like hyperventilate, like I'd get a lump in my throat
and I would start breathing and like crying because I
had so much fear around me being in charge of
my own finances. I didn't even know how to log
(30:48):
in to my bank account at the time of our divorce,
and now now I do, and I have everything syncd
up through Rocket Money, and I'm very thankful for that.
I've been using that for a year now. Full Circle
fund that happened with that, I've been using it for
a year and I learned about it through cryocat last
year when I was like, oh, I don't know how
to I'm going to take over all the finances. It's overwhelming,
(31:09):
and she was like, you should get Rocket Money. It
helps you in like lots of different ways, and so
I did. And then now they do endorsements on the podcast,
and I did an Instagram thing with them recently too.
So there's a link for if you want to try
it out. I'll link that in the show notes because
it can get you a little free trial hookup thing
if you want. There's free options as well too, but
you can get an advanced version which is super helpful.
(31:31):
And yeah, that's just me being an adult.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I think you're crushing it over here with.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
My rocket money. All right, what's something you're thankful for?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I mean this is cliche, but people say like, thankful
for their health. Mimi. You know, my mom was diagnosed
with cancer last fall in a week or two ago,
got a clean bill of health and so no signs
of cancer in her body, and that I am extremely
grateful for. So I know it's kind of made me
(31:59):
more aware of like my health and the health of
people I care about around me. So super grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And something thoughtful that you thought of when your mom
was first diagnosed was you wanted her to sit down
and practice gratitude. You thought that would be good, and.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You were gracious enough to send her a Germany.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well you reached out to me and said, hey, can
you send my mom a gratitude journal? And so I
did and wrote her a note and then with all
that she had going on in her life between this
surgery and everything. She wrote me a thank you note.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I think that was good for I know she did
a lot more writing during that time, so.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I know I was like not expecting that, Please don't
take the time to write me a card, but kind
of makes me want to do more handwritten notes because
it was cool to get that in the mail. She
could have easily sent me a text, yeah, like been like, Chase,
can you send Mimi's number, But she sent me a
handwritten card saying thank you, and I thought that was awesome. Okay,
My next thing that I'm thankful for is my Happy Light,
(32:54):
which I ended up giving Bobby one on the show
because his doctor said he needed to get some light
in the morning because we wake up so early and
he doesn't see sunlight till we leave the studio after
the show. And I got a Happy Light. It's from Amazon.
It's like thirty bucks. I learned about it from Shannon,
and I love it, so I gave him mine. So
(33:15):
then I ordered another one for me, and I'm like, oh,
I should tell listeners about it, but I'll just run
through quickly the benefits of Happy Light. I'll just boom
boom boom. It brings sunshine indoors even when it's raining.
It energizes you naturally reset your sleep and wake cycle
to your natural state, enhances mood during seasonal changes, helps
make healthy routines a habit, and then inspires you to
(33:38):
get outside because you're like, ooh, I want more of this.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
So is it just like a light in the room
or is it a light Like it.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Looks like a tiny little iPad and it is white,
and then there's three different levels of light, like you
can go light medium, right. I put it on the
bright one at the beginning for Bobby and he's like,
what whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't want to be that happy.
But Shannon says it helps her feel like she's had
a cup of coffee when she does it in the morning.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And you know, you can see how it works for you.
But sometimes when I'm doing my meditation in the morning
or I'm doing my journaling, like I'll plug it in
if I do some stretching and then I'm getting that
light at the same time. So it's called the happy Light.
I'll link that in the show notes as well, because
I think there's multiple ones out there, but I can
only speak to the one I've personally ordered and I
(34:24):
like it. Shannon likes it, Bobby likes it. So you
got three reviews.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'm intrigued. I'm going to check it out.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
All right.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
The next thing that you are thankful for, man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Just thankful for our team, I think more and more
I realize you're one country team. Yeah. The people who
you work with, you spend so much of your life with.
And we are really fortunate to work with really good
people and have a lot of amazing folks of high
character and high talent on our team. And I've just
been super grateful for them individually and collectively.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Even if they mess up at work.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
No doubt, I would say, the amount of grace they
give me, I think is mutual. And so you can
mess up at one Country and be.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Okay, unless you were not the right person to hire.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Those are different mistakes.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Okay, Well, speaking of one country, let's make that the
final thing and talk about what the partnership that I
did with y'all on the Lake House, because that's still
going on, right yep, Okay, Well we'll do that next.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Oh next, all right, let's do it with Amy.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
All right, So Chase calls me one day and says Amy,
We're gonna give away a lake house. I mean, y'all
have done lots of giveaways with you know, you did
a truck with Dirk's Bentley, and you've done another truck
with John Party and like another truck with Walker. Ray's
a lot of times it's cars or SUVs, and y'all
give back in a huge way as well. Not only
do people have a chance to enter to win those
(35:52):
things with these artists, but then y'all get together, like
y'all did that cool thing with Walker hiss be a
Craig campaign and being a Craig. Google that if you
don't know. But also I've done a podcast interview with
Walker and Craig Gosh, that's probably a couple of years
ago where they we talk all about it, and even
before that, like maybe a year or two before that,
(36:14):
Walker came on with his wife Laney, and we talk
about be a Craig as well. But Craig changed Walker's
life and it's a beautiful story and it's about just
giving to others selflessly, like nothing in return, like hey,
you need this, take it. And while that could be anything,
they're the origin of that with them as a car.
(36:34):
So y'all have given cars to people in the be
A Craig Way as well, just showing up like hey
you need this car, you got it. It's yours, no
strings attached. And I think that that's a really special thing.
But I didn't know y'all did like home giveaways and
this is like a lakehouse and you said, hey, can
you come to Oklahoma and do some videos to help
(36:55):
talk about this lake house? And we're going to do
a giveaway. And I thought, okay, I'd never gone to
this part of Oklahoma before, but it felt like we
were in I don't know what I thought about Oklahoma,
because I know people that are from Oklahoma, like Caitlin's
from there. They love Oklahoma. Yeah, but this was I
was like, Wow, Oklahoma showing off right now.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
It's kind of an up and coming community. I think
the folks that created Seaside I'm looking at Patrick, I
think that's right down in Florida, have built out and
kind of planned this community. But it's an amazing lake
and an amazing home and we had a lot of success.
We did a campaign last year where we gave away
an Ozark cabin with Jefferson White, who plays Jimmy on
(37:35):
Yellowstone and did a deal supporting Folds of Honor in
the work that they do, and it just had so
much success that we were like, let's give away another house.
And so we like to kind of focus on some
of the hidden gyms in Middle America, just because we're
always focusing on, like, you know, the big cities and
East Coast, West Coast and all of that. But it's
like there's some pretty amazing things here kind of in
(37:57):
Middle America that are also more accessible to folks in
Middle America to maybe access if you were to win
a lake house and be able to take your family
and not have to travel halfway across the country to well.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
There's also the cash options, so you can get the
lake house or the cash options like cash and people
can enter at one country dot com. I'll link in
the show notes about that, putting lots of links in
the show notes, but people can enter for free. But
then one Country you'll also have a subscription to which
you'll enter people into everything.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I get auto entered into every campaign. And I got
to give credit to you because really, I mean, you
were talking about Walker. That was kind of a little
bit of the inspiration that changed the nature of our business.
And of course you had introduced me to Walker, which.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Walker is the person singing the theme songs. So like
when you hear well check at the beginning, at the
beginning like four Things with Amy Brown, but the whole song,
like all I have is fancy, like in my head
right now you fancy like Applebee's that's not my theme song,
but it's the food for your soul thing. But eat
Cho's joy, love a lot, eat cake and he like
(39:03):
did that oh things on a whim?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Right, Yeah, Yes, he's so good.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I had him up and said, hey, if you have time,
I would love for you to do the theme song
to my podcast. I can compensate you, like whatever you
need to. Just think of be a cool partnership. And
he was like, what, no, I'm just going to do it.
And he was out of the country somewhere and sent
me a voice memo about ten minutes later and he's like,
I don't know, what do you think about this. I'm
kind of thinking like little food soul thing. I remember, Yeah,
(39:29):
and it's so good. And so when you hear third thing,
fourth Thing, that's Walker two.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, but he's the best. But really. I mean it
was like the story of he and Craig and just
kind of the selfless idea of giving back. Like we're
not a nonprofit and we always try to be clear
about that we're not fundraising, but like I always like
to say, we're for profit and for good and like
when we're blessed, we want to be able to bless others.
And it really was kind of Walker and Craig's story.
(39:55):
We gave away that first vehicle to someone. I mean,
we did an actual sweep stay giveaway, but then we
identified someone who was not expecting and actually was like
one of the coolest days of my whole life. We
showed up in the middle of Iowa nowhere with Walker
knocked on this lady's door. She came out, She's like,
what is Walker Hayes doing? And we had this brand
(40:16):
new Yukon de alixl that we literally just gave her,
gave her a check for the taxes, signed over the title.
I mean, it was wild and then we were like
we didn't think through because we drove it out there.
We were like, oh, yeah, we need a ride back,
so we had to, you know, figure that out. But
it was so cool. But really. I mean I always
want to give credit where due those guys inspired us.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, I know they're awesome. And do you all have
another campaign going over? I mean the Lakehouse one is
still going with me, which will link.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
But is there something getting ready to launch another Ozark
cabin giveaway? We always have vehicle giveaways. We've got flyways
to see George Strait this summer. Your guy, uh where,
I can't remember what city it's in.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Are you going to go?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Probably? Do you want to go? Yeah? Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
So anyways, I mean we do we do flyways something
we've got like Luke Combs and Zach and Bryan and
all those guys. But yeah, we love it. It's fun.
I never thought I would have been like doing sweepsakes
and giveaways, but it's pretty fun to see people unexpectedly
kind of get their life changed.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah. Well, thank you for taking the time to come
on the podcast. People really had asked for you. I
promise I did like a fit thing Q and A
on Instagram like put questions here at cat and I'll
answer them. And multiple people were like, what happened to Chase?
Where's Chase? We want to hear from Chase is Chase single?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm back. Nobody asked Patrick, No one asked about Patrick.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Patrick, you were I'm a regular on here. But now
after this airs, I'm sure a couple of months will
go by and someone will say, where's Patrick.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
He's going to look for that story so he could
say where's Patrick. Now, You've got the best crew, glad
to be here.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I hope you all are having the day that you
need to have. And thanks Chase, Sea, Bye bye,
Cats up little food for yourself life. Oh it's pretty bad. Hey,
it's pretty beautiful, man, beautiful that for a little more
said he You're kicking with four with Amy Brown.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Happy Thursday. Four Things Amy here and back by popular
demand is Chase Locke.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Hello, Hello Chase.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
He used to join me back in the day. If
you've been a long time listener, you know he was
my sort of o G co host on the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah. I guess you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Would read the emails and then I would answer them,
and then Kat came on as the therapist replace me. Well,
I realized a lot of the questions I was not
qualified to answer, so it felt good to have her
on as a co host. And then you moved, like
you were living in Nashville, then you moved. Now you're
in Arkansas, but you're from Kansas. Chase's family just to
(01:09):
paint a picture is like the Yellowstone, the real life
Yellowstone Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, I mean, but not like the Yellowstone.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
That's I mean, you're not like murdering each other.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
But my dad does have Kevin Costner vibe.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah. So so I'm happy to have you here, and
we're going to do an og style Four Things episode
each thing is going to be totally different, and the
first thing that we're going to do here is messing
up at work and like how to not let it
completely get you down? Because I just messed up big
time on the podcast and I thought it was just
(01:43):
going to be between me and Morgan Massingale, who was
my guest, and it was actually for the fifth thing
earlier this week. She ended up not being my guest.
If you listened to that, you didn't hear her, because well,
we recorded it in Bobby's office, which is where we
are right now. We're at the iHeart Studios in Nashville.
The Bobby Bone Show just raped Chase and Patrick just
got here. Patrick is his business partner. Say hey Patrick,
(02:05):
Hey Patrick. So we're sitting here having good time recording
and I'm like, hold on, Jase. Before we hit record,
I got to go get headphones because I didn't have
my headphones when I was recording with Morgan on Tuesday,
and I thought, and no problem, we'll just hit record.
We're all good. Well, we did a really good episode
and she shared a lot about her dating life. I'm
(02:27):
going to try to get her back on to repeat
some of it because she dated a narcissist for two years,
and she was talking about some of the red flags
that were there, how she didn't see it then, how
she felt stuck in the pattern and how she couldn't
get out, And I felt like it would have been
a really helpful episode for some people just to see
maybe you know, not necessarily that people are dating narcissists,
but sometimes even just being aware that you're in an
unhealthy pattern and what to do about that. And so
(02:52):
it was a really good conversation. It came up because
of that very popular TikTok situation. Right now, who the
blank did I marry? So that's how we were talking
about that. Well, I did not have her microphone up
and so the audio is just me, So that's not
gonna work, not gonna work at all. So I thought, well,
this is just between me and Houston, my producer, and Morgan.
(03:16):
I informed her and she was like, oh good, because
I feel like I overshared, so maybe this is a
good thing.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Again.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
I'm gonna trying to get her back on though, because
it really was good. So Lunchbox found out about it,
and then he brought it to the Bobby Bone Show
yesterday as a bonehead story of the day, and I thought, okay, well,
now everybody knows and I feel as though I am
a professional in this field. I've been in radio for
(03:41):
almost eighteen years. I should know what I'm doing. I
should check levels and volumes, and sometimes you make a
rookie mistake. But then when they brought up the bonehead
story of the day and that I was a bonehead
for doing that, they brought up a couple of other
times where I have messed up on the podcast, like
a time where I was an acupunctural point and I
accidentally didn't make it to an interview that I had.
(04:04):
And why I say that was an accidents because I
thought I was literally laying on that table for thirty minutes. Well,
he decided to lay me there and then the next
thing you know, I fell asleep. It was two hours
and he didn't want to wake me and I had
needles all in my head. And that was during my exhausted,
horrible phase of life. I was tired. Yeah, so I
stood up an interview and I felt horrible. She had grace,
(04:26):
she understood. Well. Then there was another time I was
interviewing doctor Becky, who's a parenting expert. She's very popular
on Instagram. Patrick, your dad, you shouldn't follow her great tips. Well,
I'm so excited to have her. I'm nervous she's on Zoom.
I'm like, this is such a great interview for me.
I can't believe I booked her. And then fifteen minutes
(04:47):
another interview, I realized I didn't hit record on the
Zoom audio. Oh no, and I need that for her audio.
So again I'm left with only my audio. Anywho'sy. She
had grace for me too, So I'm very and I
feel like that's three mess ups and how many years.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I'll say, even the best of the best make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, so I would love for you to share a time.
Maybe you've messed up at work, and then if anybody
else has messed up at work, I'm going to go
through a guide to help you move forward after your
mess up. And maybe you don't mess up at work.
Maybe you've messed up in a friendship or a relationship
or something else. But it's looping in your head like
you're a failure. What's wrong with you? You're an idiot,
(05:27):
You're so stupid, that's my narrative. Yeah, how do you
even have this job, and I've got a guide for
when we mess up. This is what we need to do.
So do you have any mess ups at work? Are
you perfect?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well? Patrick's perfect, but uh no. I mean I feel
like I mess up every day and for me, the
thing that has always helped and I'm like, as I
get a little more wise each year that passes is
like identifying it and just owning it really early, because
if I let it fester, then I go down that
rabbit hole that you were just talking about. But I
(06:00):
would say my typical mess up where I'm catching myself
is I say what I'm thinking out a little too abruptly. Well,
just matter of fact, when I'm like, I need to
like filter that a little bit in the trust circle
because they might receive that is criticism when I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
To you know, get feedback.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, you bet so. I mean that's a consistent like,
oh crap, I messed up in my head.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
As the CEO of You ever felt like you messed
up with hiring decisions?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yes, I have, and I think that's something that I mean,
in those situations, you got to make that correction quickly
because you know it impacts everyone else and so yeah,
I mean that's those are the least favorite mess.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Ups well, because then you have to not only deal
with the mess up you made in your own mind,
but then you have to let the person go, which is.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Too bad because there's like sometimes it's not that necessarily
they did anything. I mean, they did do something wrong,
but it's sometimes just not the right fit for the culture.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Is this Patrick expressing that he feels as though you
don't make wise hiring decisions.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know. I'm like, you know, we'll take this.
We'll talk about personnel off the show, Patrick, But.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, circle back on between y'all in the car after
you leave here. But this is how you move on
after you've messed up at work or maybe just messed
up in general. I feel like this could even apply
to parents. Sometimes we mess up and you maybe reacting
away with your kids you didn't want to or you're
not proud of, and so this could I think apply
to that as well. Step one, allow yourself to feel
(07:36):
awful about it, but not for too long, so like,
don't just stuff it down, be like Okay, I can
feel bad about this, and the volume down on the
podcast microphone. Again, that's not a big deal, is it? However,
I respect people's time, and Morgan sat here for thirty
minutes and took time out of her day to do that,
and so then I felt bad for her wasting her time.
(07:58):
But then when all of your coworkers, who all have
their own podcasts and clearly they checked as the of
the volumes up just another little like it kind of
like whack the mole. Like sometimes you get up and
then it's like you're not feeling that great about yourself anyway,
and then boom, you get whacked down. You're like, because
sometimes I wonder why am I here? What am I
even doing? And then that sort of solidifies, like, well,
(08:19):
just whack me down and be like I knew I
wasn't supposed to be here. But that's not always the
narrative in my mind.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But sometimes it can be.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
For sure sharing with you that I have those thoughts.
Step two keep things in perspective, which I feel like,
that's what I just did a little bit, so you
can walk through that for yourself. Step three, confront your
worst case scenario and then let it go. Why are
you giving big eyes to Patrick?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So we had some conversation yesterday when we were flying
over that leadership in our company. Sometimes it's my job
specifically to anticipate kind of the worst and maybe think
about more than negative, like what could go wrong just
in case something doesn't work out. We have kind of
a quick plan of action, but sometimes in our conversation
(09:05):
it can come across like I'm pretty negative, and so
we were just talking through that this morning. I said, Hey,
we talked about it, playing through it. I'm going to
put that back on the shelf and now we're just
going to focus on the good and the positive. But
I mean, that's something we've talked about a lot, because
sometimes you know, as the leaders, you have to anticipate
what could go wrong.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, I'm glad you bring that up, because that's actually
Step four. Create a game plan for next time. And
my game plan this time was before we sat down
to record, I went and got my headphones so I
can make sure we are all good to go. And
sounds like that's what y'all do at your company. Step five.
Apologize if you need to, but don't overdo it. I
apologize to Morgan. Do y'all need to make up about something?
(09:46):
Do you need to apologize to Patrick?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
For no? I kind of did this morning. I mean we,
but I can. It's funny you say that he will
probably say that I overapologize, So that's funny that that
mentions mentioned sex. I think I could be guilty of, Like, hey,
I've said I'm sorry too many times just because I
want to.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
This makes me think of Actually, when I apologize to Morgan,
somewhere in our conversation as we were talking about a
few other things, she was like, hey, yeah, I'm I'm sorry,
da da da, like she was saying sorry for something,
and I stopped her and I said, Morgan, do not
say you're sorry. Don't apologize or use the word sorry
when you don't need to. It's because I feel like
(10:24):
that's especially a woman thing or women are known to
do that is sorry, sorry, sorry, oh sorry, oh hate sorry,
hate to interrupt, And it's like, well sorry about there's
nothing to be sorry about, so just eliminating that. But
also if you do need to say sorry and apologize
to do that, okay, we're step six take better care
of yourself. And I was reading more in the article
(10:46):
about this, and it was like, if you're taking care
of yourself, you can be on your a game for
this sort of stuff, and I do feel like, back
to the parenting example, like when I'm sort of worn out,
that's when I mess up more as a parent. But
it was talking about how we should be treating ourselves
like professional athletes, like worrying about our sleep, our work,
our fuel, how we're training, all the things. And then
(11:09):
you notice more clarity and fewer errors in your life
if you are training like an athlete, which does make
me think of how Bobby always says he's always training
like stay ready, never got to get ready.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
This is hilarious because we've had so much not in
this context, but conversation around this, because I was just
telling him last year I was kind of operating in
a state of just exhaustion. You know that We've talked
a lot, and I was like, this year, I have
to be really deliberate about what taking care of myself
looks like so I can also better myself. And anyways,
(11:40):
I mean we were talking about that in the lobby this.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Morning too, So what are you doing to live like
a professional athlete?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I mean, I'll start with saying, just because you influenced me,
I got a cold plunge. You know, I saw everyone
posting about it. I'm like, Okay, this is a fad
and probably overhyped, but it's really helped me first and
almost sleep better.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well, you got the one on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
You said it's like ninety nine bucks, because I was like,
if I'm gonna invest in something bigger, I want to
make sure i'm doing this. And it's perfect, like throw
a bag of ice and it stays cold for like
three days. But I love it and it's been a
little step in taking care of myself.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Why won't you just send me the exact one you
got on Amazon and I'll link it in the show
notes in case I want to test it out. Because
this is one that's been used by Chase and even
Patrick two you use it as well.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
He apparently ordered me one and is sending it to
my house. But I've had this motto for a long time.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
No pain, no pain.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
No pain, no pain.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, and so I just.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I don't know how it's gonna work for me.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Wait, can you explain no pain, no pain, because obviously
it's a play on no pain no gain.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Well, I mean, if you don't experience pain, then there's
no pain you avoid every day, which I don't really
attest to.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
That in all things, but okay, so you're not going
to get into a freezing cold water.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Just wanted to say it, and then y'all kind of choking,
we move on. I don't know if I have to
explain it well.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I wanted to clarify what no pain, no pain, no pain,
no pain. I get it. As a good model to
live by, you got to.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Have a little pain to have a little gain. And
I think there's truth in that. And to what you're saying,
I mean, to better yourself sometimes you got to go
through hard things, but in coming out of that, you've
got to identify what you're going to do to take
care of yourself so you could show up for those
that rely on you and show up for yourself. I'm
not just saying this because we're talking about it. It's
a huge thing in my life right now, trying to
(13:32):
figure out because I realize not taking care of myself
doesn't allow me to show up for the people that
rely on me. And when I saw it that way,
because I was just going to a point of exhaustion
thinking like I got to do what I need to
do to serve everyone and make sure and I'll say
that like self righteously. But you know, the people that
(13:52):
rely on me that I do what I need to
to make sure they have what they need and that
we're having success. But man, it whip me last year.
So I'm learning, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I have to learn how to make sure I've
got content for my listeners. They're showing up, I you know,
serving them in a way with something, which I still learned.
Later in the afternoon, I had no episode, and I
went upstairs when I was at home and I recorded something.
So something went up.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, and it.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Just wasn't what I had spent time with Morgan on
and so I still felt that it was important. But
had I been on my a game, who knows, maybe
I wouldn't have messed up with Morgan if I had
been eating and sleeping and training better or something. Which
speaking of listeners, did you know I got a phone
number like a voicemail line the podcast.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Oh you should say this, Patrick is going to leave
the podcast. So many voicemails.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Okay, please leave me one. That would be so fun.
Eight seven seven two o seven two o seven seven.
You're like fake putting it down. You just acted. I
saw you eight seven seven two oh seven play the voicemail.
See what happens when you call it. Hey, this is
Dannie Brown. It's a Poor Things podcast. Thanks for calling.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Leave a message.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Maybe I'll get play on the future episode The fifth
Thing with Kat.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
If you've got a.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Question, or if you have something encouraging you want to
share a quote, a story wherever you want to stay here,
this is your chance, thanks by m.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Is your refrigerator?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Oh okay, finish the joke because is your refrigerator running? Yeah? Okay,
Oh my gosh, all right, Patrick, that's awesome that, you.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Know what, I'm laughing because that sounds to me not
to do the comparison, but that had Delilah vibes. And
I mean that that's like the compliment of all compliments
because oh, you know, she's the greatest.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I know Delilah for sure. Well there you go. If
you've messed up in any way, shape or form, there's
your guide to get over it quickly. That's how many steps.
Seven steps. Oh I didn't go back to, did I? Seven? Step?
Earn back your trust through your actions, not just your words. Boom,
that's step seven. We'll wrap with that one. And I
feel like I'm already earning back trust I came in
(16:13):
with my actions, put my headphones in, check the volume,
and here we are crushing.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
It all right.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So I got a newsletter from Ali Fallon. She's the
host of Write Your Story podcast. I love her newsletters,
and the subject line was stop resisting, and I thought, oh,
I'm intrigued. So I click on it and I'm just
going to read to you what she shared. It's pretty short,
and then we can discuss. She goes, stop resisting. I
said what I said. I've shared before that the last
(16:51):
three years have been hard for me. One of the
main reasons is because I've been in resistance to what
was unfolding in my life. Life was trying to teach
me to slow down. Once I really listened to what
my life was trying to show me, I had to act,
which meant deleting five thousand emails without reading them, firing
all of my employees one of the worst days of
(17:13):
my life, and letting go of absolutely everything that wasn't
one hundred percent necessary. There was a lot of pain
and heartbreak associated with those things. But since I've stopped resisting,
things have gotten dramatically better, And I wonder if that
might be true for you. Let go of what's not
important and the rest will follow. And then she encouraged
(17:34):
people to journal with this writing prompt, how has resisting
change impacted your well being and overall life experience? Right
for five to ten minutes, and let me tell you
how many emails I have that just oh, I have
three hundred and seventy three unread emails and three hundred
and seventy nine unread text messages. And the red dots
(17:58):
don't really bother me. I often can't relate to those
that get anxiety over my red dots. But I do
wonder if subconsciously somewhere seeing those numbers and knowing I
have things hanging over me that maybe don't even really matter,
Like some of those emails, I just need to like
clear them so I can have a clear space. It's
(18:18):
almost like decluttering, and something in me will feel better
knowing that I've handled that. And I don't know why
why I'm resisting just doing it. I know that I
for sure have slowed down a lot in the last
two months, so much so that I've been very confused
by it. Like I'm enjoying shows like laying on my couch,
like I've watched more movies the last three months of
(18:40):
December January February than I've watched in a very long
time in all my couch. I normally I watch things
on my computer and I carried around house while I'm
doing laundry or blow dry my hair, you know, and
I miss things, yeah, because I'm not totally paying attention.
But I do neurofeedback. Do you know the low energy
neuro back. It's called Len's therapy. Sherry the owner of
(19:02):
Harmonized Brain Center. She's come on my podcast before and
explained everything about neurofeedback and what it does. You can
go listen to that. But she told me that she
thinks my brain is just adjusting to less trauma and
it's in a transition phase because I was used to
so much we'll call it drama trauma, drama, yeah, for
(19:22):
such a long time, and I was living in survival
mode and go, go, go, And then now I'm sort
of like slowing down and able to rest, and it's
weird and I'm like, what is happening and what do
I do? And that this is part of the process,
So then I'm going to level out. It's sort of
like the pendulum sort of swing here and there, and
then I'm going to find my groove. So we're well
(19:43):
on our way. Yep, We're to find our groove. Is
there anything in life you're resisting, Chase?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I mean, I think I resist a lot every day.
It's funny, like I don't usually have a word for
the year, but I've been using the words surrender a
lot because I just have to, like, in general, surrender
the day.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So what does it look like when you decide to
surrender the day? Do you do that at the start
of the day or all throughout the day.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
That is my prayer in the morning, and it is
my prayer throughout the day when I'm starting to feel
like I'm getting frustrated or anxious or trying to keep
everything within my control. You've got to do the best
I can. I have to surrender the rest. It's funny
that this is another topic. So I also said this morning,
like I feel most comfortable in not chaos, but like
(20:27):
the tough stuff. And so I'm learning to find my
own rhythm of when it's like, oh, this is what
relaxed feels like. But it's like that's a very unnatural
feeling for me because I'm just a little more high
strung and like always wanting to work towards the next
thing and get better and get better. And I'm incredibly
hard on myself and all of that too, So that's
(20:50):
I give grace to everyone else for the most part.
I'm pretty good at that, but don't I don't give
it to myself.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Lisa Haym was on the podcast with me a few
weeks ago, and we talked about that and getting comfortable
with the uncomfortable so that you can work your way
through stuff. And sometimes we are comfortable with the stress,
the drama, the survival mode, the five flight whatever, and
then when we don't have it, we're uncomfortable, so we
either create more drama somehow or we have to sit
(21:18):
with it and get comfortable so that way we can
work our way through it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
We got to get comfortable with the comfortable. I mean,
for me, that's sometimes what I got to work on, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I feel like my friend was dating this guy that
she didn't understand why everything was so easy and calm,
and she was kind of associating with being a little
bit lame and she didn't know if she really liked him.
And Therapy Cat she has a lot of insight on
sometimes like, well, actually, what if this is actually just
(21:49):
what a stable relationship looks like and it's a secure
attachment style instead of you know, anxious or avoidant and
there's all this other drama here and there. It's like,
what if this is actually just a healthy person?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yep. Wow, it's funny. The thing that I one thing
out of all your podcasts that I keep with me
and I think applies to multiple things. But even this
was Do you remember when you interviewed doctor Beverly Tatum. Yeah,
and I remember she we were talking about race in
America at the time, and you know, everyone was trying
to learn more, how to do better, how to be better.
(22:27):
She said, we need to not always talk about what
we need to learn. We need to talk more about
what we need to unlearn. And I think that applies
in a lot of these things where I just am
programmed over thirty five years to be the way I am.
Not that it's right, but it's not like I need
to like learn my way to a new solution. I
need to focus on the things that aren't true and
(22:47):
unwine that, not to get two sideways. But I think
that's that applies here I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Unlearned is really good, which Chase is sounding very healthy
right now. Your training is working here, our training is working.
And hey, girls chases on Hinge. So if you're ever
in the Fayetteville, Arkansas area, switch your location and you
may match with him when you come to Nashville. Do
you change your location in Nashville?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No, I have changed it once. But it's funny. I
mean there's been Nashville people that I've connected with, but
maybe it's because they were traveling through. I'm still like Hinge. Yeah,
I know, it's learning.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
It's a whole thing. I think I'm going to have
someone from Hinge on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Oh sign me up.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I saw an
email come through, so I don't know if it's been booked.
But when I saw the email, I forwarded it off
and I was like, yes, let's book this. Because Kat
got married to a guy from Hinge. Chase and I
are on Hinge, and I think just the whole dating
app thing, but also human behavior. I mean, I feel
like these dating apps they have a lot of research
(23:53):
on us, they know a lot about.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
No doubt people. Yeah, but also like, how do you yeah,
not to get into this, but like the communication, Like
I'm having to give myself grace that I'm like learning
how to meet someone on an apt way when I'm
such an in person. I mean, you know, like I
pick up the phone and call not a great text
or not.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I think that you just need to be upfront with
someone that you may be connect with, like hey, using
this app, Like I don't go out that much, but
be like, I'm not opposed to going out, like if
I want to take you out or your homebody. But
I don't know. I'm just saying, maybe you clarify just
so you know, I'm not a very big Texter if
we want to move to phone calls. Anything's just setting
(24:34):
the expectation of what type of communicator you are. Patrick
has thoughts.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Well, I just how do I don't understand how the
hinge work. So you it matches you up with someone,
they think.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, it's not the Hinge, it's just Hinge.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's like okay, the Instagram, So.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It matches you up after it learns all about you
with someone they think that you'd marry.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, it's similar to any of the other dating apps
in the world. But you've been married for how long?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Yeah, since before dating apps, right, so it's never hinged.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It's good that you have questions, and I think that
for Hinge, which is the only one I can speak to,
you load up your profile and then Hinge will match
you based on things that you have entered in, like
your likes, your dislikes, whatever what you're looking for, and
then you can either reach out to that person first
by commenting on a photo or answering one of their questions,
(25:26):
or sending them a rose. Ever, I don't understand the roses,
but I have their digital It's like when you open
it up, this little rose goes and it like builds
before your eyes and you're like, oh, I got a rose.
So then communication has started, but not that person has
(25:46):
to then reply to your reply. I have not reached
out to any guys. I have not initiated conversation because
either I'm just not bold enough. This is still new
to me. I haven't done that. But if a guy
has initiated conversation with me, I have engaged in conversations
and then I've replied back, or if I got the
rows like I'm like oh hi, and then that will
(26:08):
match you. Up, and then you get moved to a
conversation section of your app, and that's where your conversation.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
So the only way you can get matched up is
if you initiate contact.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's not the app telling you.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Know the app. The app is saying you may be
compatible with this person based on what they've entered and
what you've entered.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
That's one one know.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Because I have a further question, so what does the
app say about you two together?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It hasn't matched me up with Chase.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Why there's a well, there's a reddit thread out.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
There that's what? Wait? What god?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Patrick?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Wait is there?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, this is the one Fazzio said he like from
forever again.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Oh, I forgot about that. I know there's a Reddit
thread about you being gay, but.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well that was the same thread.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Okay, that's the part I remember, and.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Then it went into like a million.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Different Oh yeah, no, chasing the BFF friends of BFF BFF, Yeah, yes,
is I mean? Because we've been friends since twenty and thirteen.
That's a long time.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, over ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
And I define BFF as someone we don't have to
talk all the time, but either one of us could
call each other at any given hour. And it's like,
what do you need?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
For sure? And there's a lot of mutual grace with
the other, which I appreciate about our friendship for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
All Right, I feel like the original thing here was
stop resisting, So we'll just stop there, stop resisting, and
get onto the next thing.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
We got third thing, all right?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
For this thing, I want to do four things gratitude.
I'm going to share two things I'm thankful for, and
then you can share two things you're thankful for and
two plus two is or do you know Keanu Reeves saying,
for like, when he's just over somebody and he does
don't want to deal with it, or he's not going
to let their attitude or their way of thinking or
whatever they have going on impact his day, He'll be like,
all right tooplus, Sue five. Cool, you're right toopleus, Sue
(28:10):
is five. And then he just like walks away.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, that's wise.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's wise. Sometimes you have to have to do that.
Do you want to go first? Do you want me
to go first?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You go first?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Maybe I'll go first. I got an email from a
listener named Kaylin, and I wanted to read that because
I'm very thankful for her encouragement. The email for the
podcast is four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com.
By the way, she's like, good morning, Amy. I'm catching
up on a few episodes and heard you mention that
you don't feel like an adult when it comes to
certain areas of your life now that you are single.
While there may be financial, auto or maintenance type things
(28:41):
that you're not familiar with, you have to view the
full spectrum. Maybe your husband had handled those tasks, but
think of what you handled while in your marriage. Laundry,
household things, maintaining family schedule, being in tune with kids needs,
coordinating plans or events with friends, family travel needs, groceries,
cooking while you were experiencing this adjustment period, just remember
(29:04):
your role that you played in your household was vital
and that no one can do it all. You had
a partner to share in those responsibilities. That is God's
intent for marriage that you would be a helper to
one another. Even though you helped in different ways, you
each contributed to your household day in and day out,
and that is being an adult with love. Kaylin. Okay, Now,
(29:25):
while Kaylen's just kind of guessing what we each had
responsibilities for which Ben would help with household chores inside,
but like I never did the yard. I mean maybe
sometimes I would pull weeds or something, but I don't
know how to weed eater law moo, and he would
grill and then I would do the cooking inside. And
you know, we divvied things up, but I never saw
that as me being an adult, just because the finances
(29:46):
seem more important. So if he's handling the finances, that
seems very adult like, or handling big projects around the house.
But I will say Christmas gifts, birthday presence, calendar's family schedule, Yeah,
like it was. If it's somebody's birthday is normally falling
on me, and I would get that done most of
the time.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, most of the time.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
And so anyway, Caylin, I just appreciated your email, Like
I appreciated the encouragement, and I wanted to share it
as one of my things that I'm thankful for because
maybe somebody else needed to hear that. Maybe it's divvied
up a different way in your home, or you feel
less than because maybe you don't think like your responsibilities
are as important. But I think everybody's role is important
(30:26):
to keep the whole ecosystem flowing, and I am an adult.
I've taken over my finances. Rocket Money has helped me
in a big way getting all that together, because you know,
if I had to log into a bank account of
like hyperventilate, like I'd get a lump in my throat
and I would start breathing and like crying because I
had so much fear around me being in charge of
my own finances. I didn't even know how to log
(30:48):
in to my bank account at the time of our divorce,
and now now I do, and I have everything syncd
up through Rocket Money, and I'm very thankful for that.
I've been using that for a year now. Full Circle
fund that happened with that, I've been using it for
a year and I learned about it through cryocat last
year when I was like, oh, I don't know how
to I'm going to take over all the finances. It's overwhelming,
(31:09):
and she was like, you should get Rocket Money. It
helps you in like lots of different ways, and so
I did. And then now they do endorsements on the podcast,
and I did an Instagram thing with them recently too.
So there's a link for if you want to try
it out. I'll link that in the show notes because
it can get you a little free trial hookup thing
if you want. There's free options as well too, but
you can get an advanced version which is super helpful.
(31:31):
And yeah, that's just me being an adult.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I think you're crushing it over here with.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
My rocket money. All right, what's something you're thankful for?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I mean this is cliche, but people say like, thankful
for their health. Mimi. You know, my mom was diagnosed
with cancer last fall in a week or two ago,
got a clean bill of health and so no signs
of cancer in her body, and that I am extremely
grateful for. So I know it's kind of made me
(31:59):
more aware of like my health and the health of
people I care about around me. So super grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And something thoughtful that you thought of when your mom
was first diagnosed was you wanted her to sit down
and practice gratitude. You thought that would be good, and.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You were gracious enough to send her a Germany.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Well you reached out to me and said, hey, can
you send my mom a gratitude journal? And so I
did and wrote her a note and then with all
that she had going on in her life between this
surgery and everything. She wrote me a thank you note.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
I think that was good for I know she did
a lot more writing during that time, so.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I know I was like not expecting that, Please don't
take the time to write me a card, but kind
of makes me want to do more handwritten notes because
it was cool to get that in the mail. She
could have easily sent me a text, yeah, like been like, Chase,
can you send Mimi's number, But she sent me a
handwritten card saying thank you, and I thought that was awesome. Okay,
My next thing that I'm thankful for is my Happy Light,
(32:54):
which I ended up giving Bobby one on the show
because his doctor said he needed to get some light
in the morning because we wake up so early and
he doesn't see sunlight till we leave the studio after
the show. And I got a Happy Light. It's from Amazon.
It's like thirty bucks. I learned about it from Shannon,
and I love it, so I gave him mine. So
(33:15):
then I ordered another one for me, and I'm like, oh,
I should tell listeners about it, but I'll just run
through quickly the benefits of Happy Light. I'll just boom
boom boom. It brings sunshine indoors even when it's raining.
It energizes you naturally reset your sleep and wake cycle
to your natural state, enhances mood during seasonal changes, helps
make healthy routines a habit, and then inspires you to
(33:38):
get outside because you're like, ooh, I want more of this.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
So is it just like a light in the room
or is it a light Like it.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Looks like a tiny little iPad and it is white,
and then there's three different levels of light, like you
can go light medium, right. I put it on the
bright one at the beginning for Bobby and he's like,
what whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't want to be that happy.
But Shannon says it helps her feel like she's had
a cup of coffee when she does it in the morning.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And you know, you can see how it works for you.
But sometimes when I'm doing my meditation in the morning
or I'm doing my journaling, like I'll plug it in
if I do some stretching and then I'm getting that
light at the same time. So it's called the happy Light.
I'll link that in the show notes as well, because
I think there's multiple ones out there, but I can
only speak to the one I've personally ordered and I
(34:24):
like it. Shannon likes it, Bobby likes it. So you
got three reviews.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'm intrigued. I'm going to check it out.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
All right.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
The next thing that you are thankful for, man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Just thankful for our team, I think more and more
I realize you're one country team. Yeah. The people who
you work with, you spend so much of your life with.
And we are really fortunate to work with really good
people and have a lot of amazing folks of high
character and high talent on our team. And I've just
been super grateful for them individually and collectively.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Even if they mess up at work.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
No doubt, I would say, the amount of grace they
give me, I think is mutual. And so you can
mess up at one Country and be.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Okay, unless you were not the right person to hire.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Those are different mistakes.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Okay, Well, speaking of one country, let's make that the
final thing and talk about what the partnership that I
did with y'all on the Lake House, because that's still
going on, right yep, Okay, Well we'll do that next.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Oh next, all right, let's do it with Amy.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
All right, So Chase calls me one day and says Amy,
We're gonna give away a lake house. I mean, y'all
have done lots of giveaways with you know, you did
a truck with Dirk's Bentley, and you've done another truck
with John Party and like another truck with Walker. Ray's
a lot of times it's cars or SUVs, and y'all
give back in a huge way as well. Not only
do people have a chance to enter to win those
(35:52):
things with these artists, but then y'all get together, like
y'all did that cool thing with Walker hiss be a
Craig campaign and being a Craig. Google that if you
don't know. But also I've done a podcast interview with
Walker and Craig Gosh, that's probably a couple of years
ago where they we talk all about it, and even
before that, like maybe a year or two before that,
(36:14):
Walker came on with his wife Laney, and we talk
about be a Craig as well. But Craig changed Walker's
life and it's a beautiful story and it's about just
giving to others selflessly, like nothing in return, like hey,
you need this, take it. And while that could be anything,
they're the origin of that with them as a car.
(36:34):
So y'all have given cars to people in the be
A Craig Way as well, just showing up like hey
you need this car, you got it. It's yours, no
strings attached. And I think that that's a really special thing.
But I didn't know y'all did like home giveaways and
this is like a lakehouse and you said, hey, can
you come to Oklahoma and do some videos to help
(36:55):
talk about this lake house? And we're going to do
a giveaway. And I thought, okay, I'd never gone to
this part of Oklahoma before, but it felt like we
were in I don't know what I thought about Oklahoma,
because I know people that are from Oklahoma, like Caitlin's
from there. They love Oklahoma. Yeah, but this was I
was like, Wow, Oklahoma showing off right now.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
It's kind of an up and coming community. I think
the folks that created Seaside I'm looking at Patrick, I
think that's right down in Florida, have built out and
kind of planned this community. But it's an amazing lake
and an amazing home and we had a lot of success.
We did a campaign last year where we gave away
an Ozark cabin with Jefferson White, who plays Jimmy on
(37:35):
Yellowstone and did a deal supporting Folds of Honor in
the work that they do, and it just had so
much success that we were like, let's give away another house.
And so we like to kind of focus on some
of the hidden gyms in Middle America, just because we're
always focusing on, like, you know, the big cities and
East Coast, West Coast and all of that. But it's
like there's some pretty amazing things here kind of in
(37:57):
Middle America that are also more accessible to folks in
Middle America to maybe access if you were to win
a lake house and be able to take your family
and not have to travel halfway across the country to well.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
There's also the cash options, so you can get the
lake house or the cash options like cash and people
can enter at one country dot com. I'll link in
the show notes about that, putting lots of links in
the show notes, but people can enter for free. But
then one Country you'll also have a subscription to which
you'll enter people into everything.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
I get auto entered into every campaign. And I got
to give credit to you because really, I mean, you
were talking about Walker. That was kind of a little
bit of the inspiration that changed the nature of our business.
And of course you had introduced me to Walker, which.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Walker is the person singing the theme songs. So like
when you hear well check at the beginning, at the
beginning like four Things with Amy Brown, but the whole song,
like all I have is fancy, like in my head
right now you fancy like Applebee's that's not my theme song,
but it's the food for your soul thing. But eat
Cho's joy, love a lot, eat cake and he like
(39:03):
did that oh things on a whim?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Right, Yeah, Yes, he's so good.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I had him up and said, hey, if you have time,
I would love for you to do the theme song
to my podcast. I can compensate you, like whatever you
need to. Just think of be a cool partnership. And
he was like, what, no, I'm just going to do it.
And he was out of the country somewhere and sent
me a voice memo about ten minutes later and he's like,
I don't know, what do you think about this. I'm
kind of thinking like little food soul thing. I remember, Yeah,
(39:29):
and it's so good. And so when you hear third thing,
fourth Thing, that's Walker two.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, but he's the best. But really. I mean it
was like the story of he and Craig and just
kind of the selfless idea of giving back. Like we're
not a nonprofit and we always try to be clear
about that we're not fundraising, but like I always like
to say, we're for profit and for good and like
when we're blessed, we want to be able to bless others.
And it really was kind of Walker and Craig's story.
(39:55):
We gave away that first vehicle to someone. I mean,
we did an actual sweep stay giveaway, but then we
identified someone who was not expecting and actually was like
one of the coolest days of my whole life. We
showed up in the middle of Iowa nowhere with Walker
knocked on this lady's door. She came out, She's like,
what is Walker Hayes doing? And we had this brand
(40:16):
new Yukon de alixl that we literally just gave her,
gave her a check for the taxes, signed over the title.
I mean, it was wild and then we were like
we didn't think through because we drove it out there.
We were like, oh, yeah, we need a ride back,
so we had to, you know, figure that out. But
it was so cool. But really. I mean I always
want to give credit where due those guys inspired us.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Yeah, I know they're awesome. And do you all have
another campaign going over? I mean the Lakehouse one is
still going with me, which will link.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
But is there something getting ready to launch another Ozark
cabin giveaway? We always have vehicle giveaways. We've got flyways
to see George Strait this summer. Your guy, uh where,
I can't remember what city it's in.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Are you going to go?
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Probably? Do you want to go? Yeah? Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
So anyways, I mean we do we do flyways something
we've got like Luke Combs and Zach and Bryan and
all those guys. But yeah, we love it. It's fun.
I never thought I would have been like doing sweepsakes
and giveaways, but it's pretty fun to see people unexpectedly
kind of get their life changed.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah. Well, thank you for taking the time to come
on the podcast. People really had asked for you. I
promise I did like a fit thing Q and A
on Instagram like put questions here at cat and I'll
answer them. And multiple people were like, what happened to Chase?
Where's Chase? We want to hear from Chase is Chase single?
Speaker 1 (41:40):
I'm back. Nobody asked Patrick, No one asked about Patrick.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Patrick, you were I'm a regular on here. But now
after this airs, I'm sure a couple of months will
go by and someone will say, where's Patrick.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
He's going to look for that story so he could
say where's Patrick. Now, You've got the best crew, glad
to be here.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I hope you all are having the day that you
need to have. And thanks Chase, Sea, Bye bye,
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