February 7, 2023 • 27 mins
Do you have an “emergency outfit” that you keep ready to go? Want a way to feel instantly better? Do you have jeans that you’re holding onto that you need to get rid of? Have you ever had a jean burning ceremony? All of these things (and more!!!) are addressed today and let’s just say that we are worried for Kat’s clients on her “leggings day” Lol.
Today’s Quote:
“The key to looking amazing is looking like crap most of the time!”
Friendly Reminder:
“Anything that costs you your mental health is too expensive!!”
Amy and Kat also go over some listener emails!!
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Thank you licensed therapist, Kat Defatta, for joining us with her wisdom. You can find her on Instagram: @Kat.Defatta+ @YouNeedTherapyPodcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Cat and our quote today is I don't even
know really where this came from me. Yeah, the internet somewhere.
The key to looking amazing is looking like crap most
of the time, which cat cheer with everyone. What you
did for yourself today? Because you said that you were
feeling kind of blah, so you put on jeans. I
(00:31):
feel amazing, that's what you said. And I thought, Okay,
well that's weird. A lot of times people feel like, oh,
I can't wait to get out of my jeans, but
you were like, oh, I can't wait to get into
my jeans. Yeah, that is weird. I found these fair
of jeans yesterday that I forgot that I had, and
I really liked them. And this morning I felt like
I didn't want to get to bed and I felt
sup on the couch and I was like wearing sweatpaint.
I just felt so Then I was like, I need
(00:52):
to reset. So I took a shower, put these pants
on a new person. Love it like a new day.
A shower can all like it was you that, but
you think it was the jeans. Are you sure it
wasn't the tower, but the jeans are QUO. Thank you. Yeah,
it just made me feel a little bit more put together,
even though I'm wearing a sweatshirt, no makeup and my
hair's not done. I am big into wearing what you
(01:15):
need to wear, where put out there, like where you
need to wear, how the day you need to have,
where you need to wear. But like if you've got
something coming up, like go into your closet and find
whatever it is that makes you feel you're most confident. Ever,
if you've got something going on at work or this
or that, put that on, even if you don't feel
like I just don't want to put it on. It
(01:36):
changes changes. During COVID, I got into wearing just leggings
and sweats all the time. This was working from home,
and then we went back into the studio for the
Bobby Bones show and I sort of carried that with
me and every day artists weren't coming in because it
was still covidy ish and so we weren't seeing people,
and so I was in this total pattern of just
(01:56):
wearing exercise stuff to work. And I finally have broke
in it, and I feel better. I feel better in
the morning when I get ready, and I do what
I need to do with my makeup and hair. If
you don't want to wear makeup, that's fine. I'm not
saying it has to do with makeup, But for me,
I like it and I want to put it on.
And when I do, when I take the time to
do all the steps, I feel you're taking care of
(02:16):
yourself the way you like to be taking You're more confident,
and then I show up to work with more confidence,
and then that shows up in my work Like it
all has a I made a goal domino effect. Yeah,
I made a goal this year because I can wear
whatever I want to work. I used to wear leggings
and sweatshirts like all the time. My goal this year
is three out of the five days I go to work,
I have to wear an actual like outfit, not leggings.
(02:39):
Do you feel like you're a better therapist that day? Yes?
I feel for the people that get you on leggings day. No, Okay,
I feel like not on those days. Now that I'm
doing it more consistently, I feel better. So legging day clients,
listen up. I'm still there for you. I'm still But
if I was your client and I heard this and
(03:00):
I locked in and you had leggings on and be like,
can we reuse guys? Okay, well I'm backfired, but anyway
that would have to be a good thing. It makes
me think of like jeans and the whole. Like sometimes
jeans just we hold onto them because of something we
talk about on on out Way, the Outweigh podcasts that's
(03:21):
dedicated to eating disorder recovery and body image stuff, and
we hold onto things in our closet because we're like, oh,
one day I'll fit back into that. Okay, We'll go
ahead and do yourself a favor and no, get things
that fit you and meet you where you are, and
you will feel more confident instead of like, ah, okay,
I'll finally wear jeans once I can fit into those,
and I'm just gonna keep wearing the sweats and then
(03:42):
but then every time you see those in your closet,
you feel bad about yourself. Yeah, because you don't feel
you don't fit in them, So it tells you that
you're doing something wrong. I have a question, do you
have an emergency outfit? No? Do you know what I
mean by that? I mean I have go to outfits
that I know make me feel good. But I have
not ever called it that, so I don't know if
I have that specific tell me more so, an emergency
(04:03):
outfit is the outfit that you kind of what you
were saying, like, you know, no matter what is going on,
you're going to feel good in that outfit. So you're
not going to be pulling that something. You're not be
afraid that you're middriff is gonna show and you're gonna
be self conscious about that, or your cleavage is gonna show.
Where You're not afraid that somebodys gonna think somebody. You
just feel like you can be yourself in that outfit.
You don't worry about anything. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Okay,
(04:25):
I just had not called it. I didn't know. I
was like, what if I'm an you ever thought outfit? Well, listen,
do you want to know what I think about? And
I don't know that this is what you're gonna put
this in the universe. But sometimes I'm like, shoot, like,
if I were to die today, it's because I'm watching
Grays and now what we and like people show up
at the hospital and they weren't of course planning on
going in the hospital that day and then who knows
(04:47):
what they had on, you know it's underwear. They find
myself getting ready to being like, oh, cut these underwear off.
What if I have to go to the host little
day My friend, uh, my sister's sister in law, family
friend and actual family now since my sister married her brother.
But she was doing no shave November and she got
into a car accident and the E m S came
(05:08):
and she had to get on there and they were
like cutting her clothes off, and she was like, I'm
doing no shation because she didn't. She was like, I'm
sorry my leg hairs, which if you have leg hair
a norm hair, who cares. But it was just so
she was clearly of right mind and her head wasn't
hurt or she wasn't gonna die. But she's in the
ambulance as they're cutting her clothes off, proclaiming to make
(05:31):
sure they knew she wasn't lazy and she does like
to shave, but she was doing no shave and I
was going to be here, I would have shaved. I'm sorry.
They're like, ma'am, it's okay exactly. I mean, so when
us an emergency outfit. I'm like, you mean like that
if I were to get into an emergency today, good
thing I have this on because I'm gonna look good
(05:52):
and my legs are gonna be shaved and I'm gonna
be awesome. Back to the clothes. You may need to
move out of your closet just to keep your closet.
Give those vibes like you can still be combat. Let's
have high vibes in the closet. Mel Robbins had posted something.
Mel Robins shot up. If we've talked about her in
a little while, every time we talked about Mel Robbins,
(06:15):
she got like a zing in her body. She thinks
she had like some serious this order good thing that
doesn't happen. But if you play our Mel Robbins drinking game,
then take a shot. But my goal is to get
her on the podcast. It'll happen. That has been on
my goals for the year. Mel. If you're listening, you're
(06:35):
probably not Mel if you've got that zing picturing like
getting sapped. Okay, Okay. She posted this and it was
I guess from I guess maybe she either had on
her podcast or something like Steve or at Steve, do
you follow him or Steven I don't know. I don't either,
but it's a friendly reminder. Anything that costs you your
mental health is too expensive. And I feel as though
(06:56):
that could apply to relationships, that could apply to a
certain decisions you might need to make, and it could
apply to the clothes you're keeping around in your closet,
Like if you're walking into your closet, it's messing with
your brain. It's not worth it to keep in your
closet anymore. Let it go. And it's hard to do that,
so so hard. I know, have you had to do that? Yes,
it's tough. With support, some support, like call a friend,
(07:20):
talk to your therapist about it, call your mom, somebody.
What would therapist that wears a dress to work cats
say to her, we want the dress version. You don't
want the legging. I don't want the legging. Sursion like say,
I come in and I'm like, hey, oh, I was
listening to this podcast and they told me that if
I am keeping these genes around, you know, my as
(07:40):
motivation to fit into them one day. But gosh, it's
been like two years and I'm just feeling really depressed
because I I can't get there and I'm a failure,
and what am I supposed to do? Because I don't
want to get rid of them? I think what I
would probably do with that person is talk about how
talk about how it's helpful to keep them, and then
talk about how it costs you and what it costs
you and how it's hurting you. And when people probably
(08:01):
see that on a piece of paper, they're like, oh
my gosh, I'm hurt. I'm hurting my own feelings all
the time by doing this. And then I would say
for those who are in the place where they know
they need to get rid of some stuff and they
are seeing a therapist, something that I do a lot
with clients is they'll bring clothes to the office and
we'll talk about them and we'll do certain things with them.
(08:23):
We burned clothes. We used to be sort of joking,
but no, we burned jeans all the time. Jeans are
a big thing that it's hard to get rid of,
specifically jeanes, but we burned them. And then we used
to have ceremonies. When I worked in a treatment center,
we would have gene burning ceremonies. It was so cool.
But something else that I have done with clients is
they'll bring in their clothes like the hardest pieces to
(08:43):
get rid of. Maybe it meant something, or they weren't
a certain place, or it was those like my d
quote skinny jeans that I felt x y z N
or my goal jeans, and we would just write whatever
it is that client needs to hear or needs to
say to her genes or their jeans, and then what
we would do is we would at them up, shred them,
we would burn them, or they would do whatever it
(09:03):
is they wanted to do to destroy them. Or sometimes
people what is really helpful is to donate them to
say this is something that is hurting me, but I
think it might help somebody else to have a new
pair of jeans, and I have a little positive light
on it. Okay, So yeah, we are saying it is
hard if you need to do something like remove the
genes from your closet or remove whatever it is, or
(09:25):
get yourself out of anything that is mentally expensive, which
the quote again, I'll say it one more time. Is
anything that costs you your mental health is too expensive? Amen? Okay,
I have an email from Kelly in California. Hey, Amy,
(09:50):
I've been meaning to share how timely. It was to
hear the episode with Jin hat Maker about doing things
outside of your comfort zone. But life got crazy and
I'm just now getting to it on a rainy day.
The episode came out just about the time that my
husband and I moved into our newly purchased forty acres
in California. We have had this dream to build our
own house the way we want it, with our own
(10:11):
hands ever since we first got married twenty two plus
years ago. We're finally making that happen. It's terrifying since
we are not in the construction industry at all. In fact,
we're both teachers and we use YouTube for learning how
to do all things house building related, which cat your
dad's a builder, Oh my god, I would not know
(10:32):
where to start. And my dad's build houses my whole
entire life. I know. It's like, let's ask your dad.
You and I could YouTube how to build a house
and actually figure it out. What do you think my
dad would say? No, he would say maybe amy, but
definitely like hat That's what he would say. YouTube can
teach you so much. YouTube can teach you anything. That's
(10:53):
how I learned how to clean the filter at the
bottom of my front loading washing machine, because if you're
not doing that, you're suppsed to do it every two months,
and if you don't do it, your clothes will stink
and you'll be like, why are my clothes and my
towel stinking? Well, it's because you need to clean out
your filter. And nobody ever told you about it. The dryer,
the washer, the washer. Okay, I'll do that when you
leave today, I'll show you where it is. It's crazy,
it smells so bad. I put up a whole real
(11:15):
about it, and so many people are like, what, I've
never heard this in my life. Why don't people tell
people about that? I don't. I don't mean you're doing
it now? Well yeah, but I mean I learned about
it later. That should be a thing that everybody knows,
like when you buy the washer, f y I And
maybe they do, but we just don't pay attention and
like yeah, yeah, yeah filter, okay, but really you need
to clean it out. Okay, back to the email. So
it's talking about YouTube blah blah blah. So these things
(11:37):
have been so far out of our comfort zone, but
we have continued because we keep reminding ourselves that when
the house is built, it will be what we hoped for,
and a house designed on land that provides our two
kids the opportunity to live on our property as they
get older, since we're not sure if they'll be able
to live on their own as they are both on
the spectrum and one has some difficult mood challenges that
(11:58):
come along with that. I just wanted to say thanks
for having Jen on your podcast. It was a great
reminder of that doing things out of our comfort zone
can be hard and rewarding your friend in California, Kelly,
which is the gen hat Maker. Episode is episode three
eight eight if you want to go check it out.
It was a really good conversation and I loved all
that Jen had to say, and I love that encouragement
(12:20):
of doing things outside of your comfort zone and what
is something that you can do? Maybe challenge yourself to
do that, and it might be giving a stranger a
compliment that's really hard for some people to do because
it's like, oh, that makes me feel uncomfortable. I was
listening to this whole I think Gabby Bernstein, maybe it
was a podcast she put up, or I was listening
to something because I signed up for emails and I
(12:41):
get them from her, and maybe I was listening to
something that she included in an email, but it was
talking about how all of that is energy, like it's
quantum physics, like it's everything is feeding off of each other.
And if you start to pay more attention to your energy,
like you can feel how you feel around certain people,
you can feel how it feels when you walk into
a room, if you feel something and you you're like,
(13:02):
that's that's the energy that something's being put off, and
you can start to learn how to pay more attention
to it. But like, there's all this moving energy in
all parts of the world, and little compliments feed into that,
like feed into that positive energy that's having a ripple
effect with different people. And the simple act of saying,
I love your nail color or your hair is so cute,
(13:25):
where do you get it done? And that might shift
my energy, where then I might shift somebody else's energy exactly.
I love that, right, And it's I like that. It's
little things you don't have to go out of you
don't actually have to be because I'm not going to
put the house, But you can do things that are
really really small that might be big to you, but
are that are seemingly small that can actually change the
(13:47):
trajectory of I want to say the world eventually. Yes, No,
that it's luckly what Gabby said, It's like, hey, let's
all get on this together. Let's all start having some
some positive impact on each other in a little way
to do that? Is that or you know? For Gin,
she was on the podcast talking about writing a cookbook.
She's been an author for years, but she's never written
a cookbook that was totally outside of her comfort zone.
(14:08):
But she did it and she's killing it. By the way.
I see her people posting about her cookbook. Feed these
people all the time, and I'm like, oh, that's so cool.
She did it. She did it. It was outside of
her comfort zone. But look at her. She went for
it doing live events outside of my comfort zone. But
I'm doing it actually now it's in my comfort zone.
It was out of my comfort zone. We first did
the one in wichitall, but I ever told you how
(14:29):
I felt when I walked out on stage the day
of before anybody got there. We were doing a walkthrough. No,
it was probably noon or something, and the event was
at seven and we went to do a walkthrough and
I went through the backstage and I'm standing looking out
into the chairs and the curtains of their little la
and I look at Fascio and I look around and
(14:49):
I put my hands up, and I was like, I
was born for this, Like I felt that you were
going to say that you were really nervous or something
like I was nervous. But I also was like, like,
for someone like my sister to walk out on stage
like that, she would probably show she would she would
have to. Really I still have nerves and stuff, don't
(15:10):
get me wrong, but like she would be like, I
don't think I was born for this, Give me the
heck off of here, but like I can do other
things that she was. But I felt like, oh, and
I feel like that moment now that we're about to
do Nashville at the end of March, like I feel
as though that was sort of a foreshadowing moment for
like maybe what's in my future when it comes to
(15:32):
more stages or even trying to do acting, taking acting
lessons totally outside of my comfort zone. But I'm doing it,
and I'm an audition for stuff, and I'm probably gonna
get rejected. I don't care. I'm doing it because what
is the purpose of what you're doing. What is the
purpose of you auditioning stuff? Is it just to get
a role. I would like to get a role, but
I don't want to look back and not have done
(15:53):
it just out of fear. I enjoyed it so much
doing that Christmas movie. It was so cool and my
cup I felt alive. I don't know how else to say.
It's helped you experience a whole other part of life,
and you've grown through the challenges of all that, because
that was even after you got that part, going and
doing that was still challenging and you grew through that.
So trying out for these other roles, you're going to
(16:15):
grow in more from that. Right, Maybe I never get
another role ever, But it's okay. Like even my acting
lessons are growing me in different ways. They're very therapeutic.
It's weird, but I do them in person. And her
name is Bridget. But we do a lot of breathing
exercises before. I would say the first twenty minutes is
dedicated to what's going on with me, how's my body feeling,
(16:35):
my energy? We do breathwork. One time I was doing
breath with her and I just started crying. And she
was like, Okay, I guess we need to get that out.
But she's like, that's she because she wants the acting
to come from the gut, not from up here, but like,
I want you to come from deep within. Whatever we're
trying to tap into. You get to use everything that's
inside of you. So let's see what's going on. So cool,
(16:56):
I know. So it's cool to trying. It's cooling much
trying school. Going outside of your comfort zone is cool.
But again, the pendulum could swing from building a house
when you're not a builder to giving a stranger a
compliment and everything in between. It all matters. It all matters.
What about you. What's something that maybe you're doing that's
(17:17):
outside of your comfort zone or that maybe you want
to do but you haven't done yet. You know, I
have to admit something. Okay, I wasn't expecting that, but yeah,
I feel like this year, and I've done some writing
about this, I'm somebody who tries a lot of stuff,
and I do try a lot of things that I
totally fail at. But I'm also somebody who has recently
(17:39):
got really comfortable not trying anymore, which might be a
surprise to some people. That's crazy. You've got me a
bracelet for Christmas? I know what, I have one too.
But I think I've been looking lately at the things
that I've been doing and the things that i've been
putting myself out there to do more of, and I've
gotten a little bit stuck. So I think there are
a lot of maybe I don't want to share them
(18:01):
all on the podcast. I might tell you behind the scenes,
but there's a lot of things that I think that
I need to be doing that I'm not like you
talking about the acting classes. I'm sitting here thinking like
I don't I want to do that, Like I would
be so afraid to do that. Maybe it has something
to do with the fact that I don't want to
be in you don't want to do it. But but
I think also it's like that's so terrifying to me.
I need to think the opposite way of that's scary
(18:22):
and what would it help me grow into? And when
I think I think of a lot of things that
I want to do right now, I think that's so
scary versus how would that help me grow into this person? Yeah,
I mean I think that that's very normal. Yeah, thank
you for sharing that because there's other people listening to
feel the exact same way, and I've been there and
will continue to be there. Yeah, I will send different things,
but I'm just really I'm in a season of like, Okay,
(18:44):
I am capable, I can do things. But also as
you as I even said that, I think my mind
just went to like the really big things, which we're
talking about the pendulum, and there are really small things
that I actually am doing because I'm doing the thing
of getting dressed, and I've made a goal to cook
more meal at home, and you were doing that and
I don't really like to cook. So there's like that
kind of stuffs outside of your comfort zone, but you're
(19:05):
doing it. I am doing it so and you're post
yeah cat is it cat dot Yeah on Instagram. I
always forget the dot. But if you want to see
her meals, her in big p cooking up. Last week
was a hard week. He've cooked most of the meals.
A hard week for you, Yeah, I was emotionally exhausted
(19:26):
every single night. Why, I think just work, and I
would think that your job is very emotionally taxing having
to I mean on leggings day, but probably not that much.
(19:47):
But there was no legging. Maybe that was it. There
was no leggings day last week. I didn't want you
were on your a game every day when it was
a lot and a therapist every single day. No, usually
I am, I'm able to preserve some of my energy,
but I think I was doing I had a really
good podcast interview with another therapist who was talking about
her name is Katie gust Office, and she's so great,
(20:08):
but she was talking about the angiogram and self care,
and that conversation had me thinking, like double down thinking,
and it was hard for me to get out of
my own head that day. And as a therapist, you
have to be present with the client. So I was
trying to like sideline all of these connections I was
making in my own life about things that I should
be doing for myself and allowing myself to experience while
(20:29):
it's trying to be really present with the client and
sit with all of their pain and not taken on
at the same time. So I think when I got home,
I was like, I can't make this chicken big. Can
you make the chicken please? And then one day we
went out for pizza that episode with her is it up?
It's up. It came out on jan and it's with
Katie Gustifon. So just google therapy. Yea, so good. So
(20:55):
you need therapy And it's would you say self care
in the any So it's really cool because if you,
even if you don't know much about the Instagram, she
talks really about like what self care really is versus
what we think it is. And I think a lot
of people are like self care, massage, go for a walk,
this that, But depending on our personalities, we need different
things to help ourselves connect with ourselves. Oh yeah, like
(21:16):
you love getting your nails done and I do not,
but I don't. That's not self care for me. We
talked about that. I still do. I don't. Okay, that's
a good point, and we talked about that in the
episode because there's a difference in what I get out
of going to get my nails done versus what I
get out of doing a puzzle. Because when I'm doing
a puzzle, I'm zoned out, I'm by myself. I'm what
do you get out of getting your nails done? It
(21:37):
helps me maintain the image I portray and it helps
me feel put together and all that, but it doesn't
actually connect me to myself. I agree, Like at the
live in which at all, I gave away some olive
in June nail polish because when I paint my nails
there is a different energy about me. It's a vibe.
But I just don't like the act of going and
(21:58):
actually getting my nails done. That's not self care for you. Right,
So I right now I'll have no nail polishon. But
I bet if I had painted then this morning fire, Yes,
if I should have to work with my nails done,
So yeah, there there's something to like, yes that, Yes,
the image whatever it is you're trying to portray, but
just internally like it making me feel good. I've started
(22:19):
to wear a lip color. I used to not really
wear lipstick, just lip gloss or whatever, but I got
I'm wearing something I got from Target. It's al Ma.
I don't think I have it with me, so I
can't say what. But it's like a pinky color. It's
like hot pink, and I'm I've learned it to work
like every day and you feel different, feel good. YEA.
(22:40):
I like it my mom too. My mom would always
be like put on a lip and I'm like stop,
I wonder if I wore the lipstick on my legging day,
if it would cancel it out. Maybe we'll try it.
I'll send you a link I can al. I don't
even know all may feels like such a like maybe
a Grandma brand from Target, But I don't know why
(23:02):
am I thinking? Al Man, Grandma? What was that brand
where they come door to door and sell you Maryka. No,
my mom's sold Mary Kay though, but she was not
good at it. We she had what we called the
pink closet, and it's because it was full of pink
stuff because she wouldn't sell it. She was not. But
our name see, our neighbor was really good at selling it.
Our neighbor had a pink Cadillac. That's how good you
(23:23):
made it because she recruited everybody else in the neighborhood,
including my mom and then my mom. Again, she wasn't
the best at it, so we just got to go
into the pink closet and pick out whatever. It's like
the pink closets funny, Oh you're I'm thinking of white diamonds.
That was like I want to say, Grandma perfume, that's
what the perfect My grandma already always had that wasn't
(23:44):
a makeup brand. But al May is that the you
know what I'm talking ab looks like an MLM, A
multi level marketing. That's that's I know, that's Mary Kay
I'm talking about um. I'm talking about the people that
would come door to door. They sell cleaning products, makeup.
That's food filibuster. I gotta lift the tub aware. Did
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your mom ever have tubleware parties? No, my mom had
tubbleware and pampered chef parties, and I thought that was
so cool. She also did bunk O nights with all
of her friends, and I thought that was what I
was going to be like when I was an adult.
But I've never had a pampered chef party, a tubleware party,
a bunk O night, or any of that. Okay, well,
look at here. I think it is al Me. That's
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not an MLM, are you sure? Well? Now, it's not
because I bought lipstick from them at Target, but I
thought they were an MLM because they used to go
door to door and sell things am Way. Sorry, sorry
almy Okay, al Me is the lipstick? Am Way is
the MLM. I've never heard of M wherever? What do
they sell. I mean a whole kinds of things. I supplements, skincare.
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I feel like at one point in time, I thought
cleaning products and then the home still around listen. I
don't know, but I definitely was confusing. Alme the lipstick
is no, no, yes, yes from Target, and am Way
is the MLM. I'm glad we solved that for everybody. No,
you can carry on with your day. I don't know
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how I think lip color. I can tell you how
we got here. Nail's lead to what makes you feel good?
Lip color? I'm wearing it to work. I got it
from Target. It's al Me, and then I was like,
isn't that an M l M? And then we looked
it up and I was like, no, that's a here.
We are got it. Have the day you need to have.
Thank you for listening to the fifth thing. I have
no idea by the time you're hearing this, if there's
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any tickets left to the Four Things Live in Nashville.
The seven pm sold out, but we put up a
three pm show. It'll be the exact same show March
in Nashville at Franklin Theater. And would love to see
you there. Maybe some other tickets will go up because
sometimes we have there's this thing where you put tickets
on hold for clients, like in radio. I have the
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salespeople at the Big ninety eight clients, I have people
I endorse for. We will hold tickets in case they
want to come, because it's like, oh, yeah, come to
the show, see what this is all about. And then
if someone can't make it or they don't end up
using it, then the holds are released and then you
get to sell them or put them back up. Yeah
it's fun, or you get to give them away or
do whatever. Franklin Theater dot com is where you can
(26:18):
find it. And then when you're there, just go to
March and search for four things with Amy Brown and
click click, and can't wait to see you all there
or anywhere. We'll figure out what other cities are going
to go to later this year, but right now we
know Nashville and then maybe three more before the the
year ends. And Cat, where can people find you on
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Instagram at cat dot de fata and at You Need
Therapy podcast and I am at Radio Amy on Instagram
and then you can hit up radio Amy dot com
for links to a squaw which has our four things
Gratitude Journal and other items that support Haiti and also
my Amazon Favorites thing which I've been trying to add
more things to like things I really use. It's like
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I put up my that mango detergent, remember about Okay,
I'm gonna go check it out, check it out. Okay,
bye bye
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Cat and our quote today is I don't even
know really where this came from me. Yeah, the internet somewhere.
The key to looking amazing is looking like crap most
of the time, which cat cheer with everyone. What you
did for yourself today? Because you said that you were
feeling kind of blah, so you put on jeans. I
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feel amazing, that's what you said. And I thought, Okay,
well that's weird. A lot of times people feel like, oh,
I can't wait to get out of my jeans, but
you were like, oh, I can't wait to get into
my jeans. Yeah, that is weird. I found these fair
of jeans yesterday that I forgot that I had, and
I really liked them. And this morning I felt like
I didn't want to get to bed and I felt
sup on the couch and I was like wearing sweatpaint.
I just felt so Then I was like, I need
(00:52):
to reset. So I took a shower, put these pants
on a new person. Love it like a new day.
A shower can all like it was you that, but
you think it was the jeans. Are you sure it
wasn't the tower, but the jeans are QUO. Thank you. Yeah,
it just made me feel a little bit more put together,
even though I'm wearing a sweatshirt, no makeup and my
hair's not done. I am big into wearing what you
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need to wear, where put out there, like where you
need to wear, how the day you need to have,
where you need to wear. But like if you've got
something coming up, like go into your closet and find
whatever it is that makes you feel you're most confident. Ever,
if you've got something going on at work or this
or that, put that on, even if you don't feel
like I just don't want to put it on. It
(01:36):
changes changes. During COVID, I got into wearing just leggings
and sweats all the time. This was working from home,
and then we went back into the studio for the
Bobby Bones show and I sort of carried that with
me and every day artists weren't coming in because it
was still covidy ish and so we weren't seeing people,
and so I was in this total pattern of just
(01:56):
wearing exercise stuff to work. And I finally have broke
in it, and I feel better. I feel better in
the morning when I get ready, and I do what
I need to do with my makeup and hair. If
you don't want to wear makeup, that's fine. I'm not
saying it has to do with makeup, But for me,
I like it and I want to put it on.
And when I do, when I take the time to
do all the steps, I feel you're taking care of
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yourself the way you like to be taking You're more confident,
and then I show up to work with more confidence,
and then that shows up in my work Like it
all has a I made a goal domino effect. Yeah,
I made a goal this year because I can wear
whatever I want to work. I used to wear leggings
and sweatshirts like all the time. My goal this year
is three out of the five days I go to work,
I have to wear an actual like outfit, not leggings.
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Do you feel like you're a better therapist that day? Yes?
I feel for the people that get you on leggings day. No, Okay,
I feel like not on those days. Now that I'm
doing it more consistently, I feel better. So legging day clients,
listen up. I'm still there for you. I'm still But
if I was your client and I heard this and
(03:00):
I locked in and you had leggings on and be like,
can we reuse guys? Okay, well I'm backfired, but anyway
that would have to be a good thing. It makes
me think of like jeans and the whole. Like sometimes
jeans just we hold onto them because of something we
talk about on on out Way, the Outweigh podcasts that's
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dedicated to eating disorder recovery and body image stuff, and
we hold onto things in our closet because we're like, oh,
one day I'll fit back into that. Okay, We'll go
ahead and do yourself a favor and no, get things
that fit you and meet you where you are, and
you will feel more confident instead of like, ah, okay,
I'll finally wear jeans once I can fit into those,
and I'm just gonna keep wearing the sweats and then
(03:42):
but then every time you see those in your closet,
you feel bad about yourself. Yeah, because you don't feel
you don't fit in them, So it tells you that
you're doing something wrong. I have a question, do you
have an emergency outfit? No? Do you know what I
mean by that? I mean I have go to outfits
that I know make me feel good. But I have
not ever called it that, so I don't know if
I have that specific tell me more so, an emergency
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outfit is the outfit that you kind of what you
were saying, like, you know, no matter what is going on,
you're going to feel good in that outfit. So you're
not going to be pulling that something. You're not be
afraid that you're middriff is gonna show and you're gonna
be self conscious about that, or your cleavage is gonna show.
Where You're not afraid that somebodys gonna think somebody. You
just feel like you can be yourself in that outfit.
You don't worry about anything. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Okay,
(04:25):
I just had not called it. I didn't know. I
was like, what if I'm an you ever thought outfit? Well, listen,
do you want to know what I think about? And
I don't know that this is what you're gonna put
this in the universe. But sometimes I'm like, shoot, like,
if I were to die today, it's because I'm watching
Grays and now what we and like people show up
at the hospital and they weren't of course planning on
going in the hospital that day and then who knows
(04:47):
what they had on, you know it's underwear. They find
myself getting ready to being like, oh, cut these underwear off.
What if I have to go to the host little
day My friend, uh, my sister's sister in law, family
friend and actual family now since my sister married her brother.
But she was doing no shave November and she got
into a car accident and the E m S came
(05:08):
and she had to get on there and they were
like cutting her clothes off, and she was like, I'm
doing no shation because she didn't. She was like, I'm
sorry my leg hairs, which if you have leg hair
a norm hair, who cares. But it was just so
she was clearly of right mind and her head wasn't
hurt or she wasn't gonna die. But she's in the
ambulance as they're cutting her clothes off, proclaiming to make
(05:31):
sure they knew she wasn't lazy and she does like
to shave, but she was doing no shave and I
was going to be here, I would have shaved. I'm sorry.
They're like, ma'am, it's okay exactly. I mean, so when
us an emergency outfit. I'm like, you mean like that
if I were to get into an emergency today, good
thing I have this on because I'm gonna look good
(05:52):
and my legs are gonna be shaved and I'm gonna
be awesome. Back to the clothes. You may need to
move out of your closet just to keep your closet.
Give those vibes like you can still be combat. Let's
have high vibes in the closet. Mel Robbins had posted something.
Mel Robins shot up. If we've talked about her in
a little while, every time we talked about Mel Robbins,
(06:15):
she got like a zing in her body. She thinks
she had like some serious this order good thing that
doesn't happen. But if you play our Mel Robbins drinking game,
then take a shot. But my goal is to get
her on the podcast. It'll happen. That has been on
my goals for the year. Mel. If you're listening, you're
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probably not Mel if you've got that zing picturing like
getting sapped. Okay, Okay. She posted this and it was
I guess from I guess maybe she either had on
her podcast or something like Steve or at Steve, do
you follow him or Steven I don't know. I don't either,
but it's a friendly reminder. Anything that costs you your
mental health is too expensive. And I feel as though
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that could apply to relationships, that could apply to a
certain decisions you might need to make, and it could
apply to the clothes you're keeping around in your closet,
Like if you're walking into your closet, it's messing with
your brain. It's not worth it to keep in your
closet anymore. Let it go. And it's hard to do that,
so so hard. I know, have you had to do that? Yes,
it's tough. With support, some support, like call a friend,
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talk to your therapist about it, call your mom, somebody.
What would therapist that wears a dress to work cats
say to her, we want the dress version. You don't
want the legging. I don't want the legging. Sursion like say,
I come in and I'm like, hey, oh, I was
listening to this podcast and they told me that if
I am keeping these genes around, you know, my as
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motivation to fit into them one day. But gosh, it's
been like two years and I'm just feeling really depressed
because I I can't get there and I'm a failure,
and what am I supposed to do? Because I don't
want to get rid of them? I think what I
would probably do with that person is talk about how
talk about how it's helpful to keep them, and then
talk about how it costs you and what it costs
you and how it's hurting you. And when people probably
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see that on a piece of paper, they're like, oh
my gosh, I'm hurt. I'm hurting my own feelings all
the time by doing this. And then I would say
for those who are in the place where they know
they need to get rid of some stuff and they
are seeing a therapist, something that I do a lot
with clients is they'll bring clothes to the office and
we'll talk about them and we'll do certain things with them.
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We burned clothes. We used to be sort of joking,
but no, we burned jeans all the time. Jeans are
a big thing that it's hard to get rid of,
specifically jeanes, but we burned them. And then we used
to have ceremonies. When I worked in a treatment center,
we would have gene burning ceremonies. It was so cool.
But something else that I have done with clients is
they'll bring in their clothes like the hardest pieces to
(08:43):
get rid of. Maybe it meant something, or they weren't
a certain place, or it was those like my d
quote skinny jeans that I felt x y z N
or my goal jeans, and we would just write whatever
it is that client needs to hear or needs to
say to her genes or their jeans, and then what
we would do is we would at them up, shred them,
we would burn them, or they would do whatever it
(09:03):
is they wanted to do to destroy them. Or sometimes
people what is really helpful is to donate them to
say this is something that is hurting me, but I
think it might help somebody else to have a new
pair of jeans, and I have a little positive light
on it. Okay, So yeah, we are saying it is
hard if you need to do something like remove the
genes from your closet or remove whatever it is, or
(09:25):
get yourself out of anything that is mentally expensive, which
the quote again, I'll say it one more time. Is
anything that costs you your mental health is too expensive? Amen? Okay,
I have an email from Kelly in California. Hey, Amy,
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I've been meaning to share how timely. It was to
hear the episode with Jin hat Maker about doing things
outside of your comfort zone. But life got crazy and
I'm just now getting to it on a rainy day.
The episode came out just about the time that my
husband and I moved into our newly purchased forty acres
in California. We have had this dream to build our
own house the way we want it, with our own
(10:11):
hands ever since we first got married twenty two plus
years ago. We're finally making that happen. It's terrifying since
we are not in the construction industry at all. In fact,
we're both teachers and we use YouTube for learning how
to do all things house building related, which cat your
dad's a builder, Oh my god, I would not know
(10:32):
where to start. And my dad's build houses my whole
entire life. I know. It's like, let's ask your dad.
You and I could YouTube how to build a house
and actually figure it out. What do you think my
dad would say? No, he would say maybe amy, but
definitely like hat That's what he would say. YouTube can
teach you so much. YouTube can teach you anything. That's
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how I learned how to clean the filter at the
bottom of my front loading washing machine, because if you're
not doing that, you're suppsed to do it every two months,
and if you don't do it, your clothes will stink
and you'll be like, why are my clothes and my
towel stinking? Well, it's because you need to clean out
your filter. And nobody ever told you about it. The dryer,
the washer, the washer. Okay, I'll do that when you
leave today, I'll show you where it is. It's crazy,
it smells so bad. I put up a whole real
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about it, and so many people are like, what, I've
never heard this in my life. Why don't people tell
people about that? I don't. I don't mean you're doing
it now? Well yeah, but I mean I learned about
it later. That should be a thing that everybody knows,
like when you buy the washer, f y I And
maybe they do, but we just don't pay attention and
like yeah, yeah, yeah filter, okay, but really you need
to clean it out. Okay, back to the email. So
it's talking about YouTube blah blah blah. So these things
(11:37):
have been so far out of our comfort zone, but
we have continued because we keep reminding ourselves that when
the house is built, it will be what we hoped for,
and a house designed on land that provides our two
kids the opportunity to live on our property as they
get older, since we're not sure if they'll be able
to live on their own as they are both on
the spectrum and one has some difficult mood challenges that
(11:58):
come along with that. I just wanted to say thanks
for having Jen on your podcast. It was a great
reminder of that doing things out of our comfort zone
can be hard and rewarding your friend in California, Kelly,
which is the gen hat Maker. Episode is episode three
eight eight if you want to go check it out.
It was a really good conversation and I loved all
that Jen had to say, and I love that encouragement
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of doing things outside of your comfort zone and what
is something that you can do? Maybe challenge yourself to
do that, and it might be giving a stranger a
compliment that's really hard for some people to do because
it's like, oh, that makes me feel uncomfortable. I was
listening to this whole I think Gabby Bernstein, maybe it
was a podcast she put up, or I was listening
to something because I signed up for emails and I
(12:41):
get them from her, and maybe I was listening to
something that she included in an email, but it was
talking about how all of that is energy, like it's
quantum physics, like it's everything is feeding off of each other.
And if you start to pay more attention to your energy,
like you can feel how you feel around certain people,
you can feel how it feels when you walk into
a room, if you feel something and you you're like,
(13:02):
that's that's the energy that something's being put off, and
you can start to learn how to pay more attention
to it. But like, there's all this moving energy in
all parts of the world, and little compliments feed into that,
like feed into that positive energy that's having a ripple
effect with different people. And the simple act of saying,
I love your nail color or your hair is so cute,
(13:25):
where do you get it done? And that might shift
my energy, where then I might shift somebody else's energy exactly.
I love that, right, And it's I like that. It's
little things you don't have to go out of you
don't actually have to be because I'm not going to
put the house, But you can do things that are
really really small that might be big to you, but
are that are seemingly small that can actually change the
(13:47):
trajectory of I want to say the world eventually. Yes, No,
that it's luckly what Gabby said, It's like, hey, let's
all get on this together. Let's all start having some
some positive impact on each other in a little way
to do that? Is that or you know? For Gin,
she was on the podcast talking about writing a cookbook.
She's been an author for years, but she's never written
a cookbook that was totally outside of her comfort zone.
(14:08):
But she did it and she's killing it. By the way.
I see her people posting about her cookbook. Feed these
people all the time, and I'm like, oh, that's so cool.
She did it. She did it. It was outside of
her comfort zone. But look at her. She went for
it doing live events outside of my comfort zone. But
I'm doing it actually now it's in my comfort zone.
It was out of my comfort zone. We first did
the one in wichitall, but I ever told you how
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I felt when I walked out on stage the day
of before anybody got there. We were doing a walkthrough. No,
it was probably noon or something, and the event was
at seven and we went to do a walkthrough and
I went through the backstage and I'm standing looking out
into the chairs and the curtains of their little la
and I look at Fascio and I look around and
(14:49):
I put my hands up, and I was like, I
was born for this, Like I felt that you were
going to say that you were really nervous or something
like I was nervous. But I also was like, like,
for someone like my sister to walk out on stage
like that, she would probably show she would she would
have to. Really I still have nerves and stuff, don't
(15:10):
get me wrong, but like she would be like, I
don't think I was born for this, Give me the
heck off of here, but like I can do other
things that she was. But I felt like, oh, and
I feel like that moment now that we're about to
do Nashville at the end of March, like I feel
as though that was sort of a foreshadowing moment for
like maybe what's in my future when it comes to
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more stages or even trying to do acting, taking acting
lessons totally outside of my comfort zone. But I'm doing it,
and I'm an audition for stuff, and I'm probably gonna
get rejected. I don't care. I'm doing it because what
is the purpose of what you're doing. What is the
purpose of you auditioning stuff? Is it just to get
a role. I would like to get a role, but
I don't want to look back and not have done
(15:53):
it just out of fear. I enjoyed it so much
doing that Christmas movie. It was so cool and my
cup I felt alive. I don't know how else to say.
It's helped you experience a whole other part of life,
and you've grown through the challenges of all that, because
that was even after you got that part, going and
doing that was still challenging and you grew through that.
So trying out for these other roles, you're going to
(16:15):
grow in more from that. Right, Maybe I never get
another role ever, But it's okay. Like even my acting
lessons are growing me in different ways. They're very therapeutic.
It's weird, but I do them in person. And her
name is Bridget. But we do a lot of breathing
exercises before. I would say the first twenty minutes is
dedicated to what's going on with me, how's my body feeling,
(16:35):
my energy? We do breathwork. One time I was doing
breath with her and I just started crying. And she
was like, Okay, I guess we need to get that out.
But she's like, that's she because she wants the acting
to come from the gut, not from up here, but like,
I want you to come from deep within. Whatever we're
trying to tap into. You get to use everything that's
inside of you. So let's see what's going on. So cool,
(16:56):
I know. So it's cool to trying. It's cooling much
trying school. Going outside of your comfort zone is cool.
But again, the pendulum could swing from building a house
when you're not a builder to giving a stranger a
compliment and everything in between. It all matters. It all matters.
What about you. What's something that maybe you're doing that's
(17:17):
outside of your comfort zone or that maybe you want
to do but you haven't done yet. You know, I
have to admit something. Okay, I wasn't expecting that, but yeah,
I feel like this year, and I've done some writing
about this, I'm somebody who tries a lot of stuff,
and I do try a lot of things that I
totally fail at. But I'm also somebody who has recently
(17:39):
got really comfortable not trying anymore, which might be a
surprise to some people. That's crazy. You've got me a
bracelet for Christmas? I know what, I have one too.
But I think I've been looking lately at the things
that I've been doing and the things that i've been
putting myself out there to do more of, and I've
gotten a little bit stuck. So I think there are
a lot of maybe I don't want to share them
(18:01):
all on the podcast. I might tell you behind the scenes,
but there's a lot of things that I think that
I need to be doing that I'm not like you
talking about the acting classes. I'm sitting here thinking like
I don't I want to do that, Like I would
be so afraid to do that. Maybe it has something
to do with the fact that I don't want to
be in you don't want to do it. But but
I think also it's like that's so terrifying to me.
I need to think the opposite way of that's scary
(18:22):
and what would it help me grow into? And when
I think I think of a lot of things that
I want to do right now, I think that's so
scary versus how would that help me grow into this person? Yeah,
I mean I think that that's very normal. Yeah, thank
you for sharing that because there's other people listening to
feel the exact same way, and I've been there and
will continue to be there. Yeah, I will send different things,
but I'm just really I'm in a season of like, Okay,
(18:44):
I am capable, I can do things. But also as
you as I even said that, I think my mind
just went to like the really big things, which we're
talking about the pendulum, and there are really small things
that I actually am doing because I'm doing the thing
of getting dressed, and I've made a goal to cook
more meal at home, and you were doing that and
I don't really like to cook. So there's like that
kind of stuffs outside of your comfort zone, but you're
(19:05):
doing it. I am doing it so and you're post
yeah cat is it cat dot Yeah on Instagram. I
always forget the dot. But if you want to see
her meals, her in big p cooking up. Last week
was a hard week. He've cooked most of the meals.
A hard week for you, Yeah, I was emotionally exhausted
(19:26):
every single night. Why, I think just work, and I
would think that your job is very emotionally taxing having
to I mean on leggings day, but probably not that much.
(19:47):
But there was no legging. Maybe that was it. There
was no leggings day last week. I didn't want you
were on your a game every day when it was
a lot and a therapist every single day. No, usually
I am, I'm able to preserve some of my energy,
but I think I was doing I had a really
good podcast interview with another therapist who was talking about
her name is Katie gust Office, and she's so great,
(20:08):
but she was talking about the angiogram and self care,
and that conversation had me thinking, like double down thinking,
and it was hard for me to get out of
my own head that day. And as a therapist, you
have to be present with the client. So I was
trying to like sideline all of these connections I was
making in my own life about things that I should
be doing for myself and allowing myself to experience while
(20:29):
it's trying to be really present with the client and
sit with all of their pain and not taken on
at the same time. So I think when I got home,
I was like, I can't make this chicken big. Can
you make the chicken please? And then one day we
went out for pizza that episode with her is it up?
It's up. It came out on jan and it's with
Katie Gustifon. So just google therapy. Yea, so good. So
(20:55):
you need therapy And it's would you say self care
in the any So it's really cool because if you,
even if you don't know much about the Instagram, she
talks really about like what self care really is versus
what we think it is. And I think a lot
of people are like self care, massage, go for a walk,
this that, But depending on our personalities, we need different
things to help ourselves connect with ourselves. Oh yeah, like
(21:16):
you love getting your nails done and I do not,
but I don't. That's not self care for me. We
talked about that. I still do. I don't. Okay, that's
a good point, and we talked about that in the
episode because there's a difference in what I get out
of going to get my nails done versus what I
get out of doing a puzzle. Because when I'm doing
a puzzle, I'm zoned out, I'm by myself. I'm what
do you get out of getting your nails done? It
(21:37):
helps me maintain the image I portray and it helps
me feel put together and all that, but it doesn't
actually connect me to myself. I agree, Like at the
live in which at all, I gave away some olive
in June nail polish because when I paint my nails
there is a different energy about me. It's a vibe.
But I just don't like the act of going and
(21:58):
actually getting my nails done. That's not self care for you. Right,
So I right now I'll have no nail polishon. But
I bet if I had painted then this morning fire, Yes,
if I should have to work with my nails done,
So yeah, there there's something to like, yes that, Yes,
the image whatever it is you're trying to portray, but
just internally like it making me feel good. I've started
(22:19):
to wear a lip color. I used to not really
wear lipstick, just lip gloss or whatever, but I got
I'm wearing something I got from Target. It's al Ma.
I don't think I have it with me, so I
can't say what. But it's like a pinky color. It's
like hot pink, and I'm I've learned it to work
like every day and you feel different, feel good. YEA.
(22:40):
I like it my mom too. My mom would always
be like put on a lip and I'm like stop,
I wonder if I wore the lipstick on my legging day,
if it would cancel it out. Maybe we'll try it.
I'll send you a link I can al. I don't
even know all may feels like such a like maybe
a Grandma brand from Target, But I don't know why
(23:02):
am I thinking? Al Man, Grandma? What was that brand
where they come door to door and sell you Maryka. No,
my mom's sold Mary Kay though, but she was not
good at it. We she had what we called the
pink closet, and it's because it was full of pink
stuff because she wouldn't sell it. She was not. But
our name see, our neighbor was really good at selling it.
Our neighbor had a pink Cadillac. That's how good you
(23:23):
made it because she recruited everybody else in the neighborhood,
including my mom and then my mom. Again, she wasn't
the best at it, so we just got to go
into the pink closet and pick out whatever. It's like
the pink closets funny, Oh you're I'm thinking of white diamonds.
That was like I want to say, Grandma perfume, that's
what the perfect My grandma already always had that wasn't
(23:44):
a makeup brand. But al May is that the you
know what I'm talking ab looks like an MLM, A
multi level marketing. That's that's I know, that's Mary Kay
I'm talking about um. I'm talking about the people that
would come door to door. They sell cleaning products, makeup.
That's food filibuster. I gotta lift the tub aware. Did
(24:07):
your mom ever have tubleware parties? No, my mom had
tubbleware and pampered chef parties, and I thought that was
so cool. She also did bunk O nights with all
of her friends, and I thought that was what I
was going to be like when I was an adult.
But I've never had a pampered chef party, a tubleware party,
a bunk O night, or any of that. Okay, well,
look at here. I think it is al Me. That's
(24:28):
not an MLM, are you sure? Well? Now, it's not
because I bought lipstick from them at Target, but I
thought they were an MLM because they used to go
door to door and sell things am Way. Sorry, sorry
almy Okay, al Me is the lipstick? Am Way is
the MLM. I've never heard of M wherever? What do
they sell. I mean a whole kinds of things. I supplements, skincare.
(24:52):
I feel like at one point in time, I thought
cleaning products and then the home still around listen. I
don't know, but I definitely was confusing. Alme the lipstick
is no, no, yes, yes from Target, and am Way
is the MLM. I'm glad we solved that for everybody. No,
you can carry on with your day. I don't know
(25:15):
how I think lip color. I can tell you how
we got here. Nail's lead to what makes you feel good?
Lip color? I'm wearing it to work. I got it
from Target. It's al Me, and then I was like,
isn't that an M l M? And then we looked
it up and I was like, no, that's a here.
We are got it. Have the day you need to have.
Thank you for listening to the fifth thing. I have
no idea by the time you're hearing this, if there's
(25:36):
any tickets left to the Four Things Live in Nashville.
The seven pm sold out, but we put up a
three pm show. It'll be the exact same show March
in Nashville at Franklin Theater. And would love to see
you there. Maybe some other tickets will go up because
sometimes we have there's this thing where you put tickets
on hold for clients, like in radio. I have the
(25:58):
salespeople at the Big ninety eight clients, I have people
I endorse for. We will hold tickets in case they
want to come, because it's like, oh, yeah, come to
the show, see what this is all about. And then
if someone can't make it or they don't end up
using it, then the holds are released and then you
get to sell them or put them back up. Yeah
it's fun, or you get to give them away or
do whatever. Franklin Theater dot com is where you can
(26:18):
find it. And then when you're there, just go to
March and search for four things with Amy Brown and
click click, and can't wait to see you all there
or anywhere. We'll figure out what other cities are going
to go to later this year, but right now we
know Nashville and then maybe three more before the the
year ends. And Cat, where can people find you on
(26:38):
Instagram at cat dot de fata and at You Need
Therapy podcast and I am at Radio Amy on Instagram
and then you can hit up radio Amy dot com
for links to a squaw which has our four things
Gratitude Journal and other items that support Haiti and also
my Amazon Favorites thing which I've been trying to add
more things to like things I really use. It's like
(27:00):
I put up my that mango detergent, remember about Okay,
I'm gonna go check it out, check it out. Okay,
bye bye
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