Amy and Kat always feel the need to give the full backstory when telling a story. Sometimes their friends can get bored with all the details, so Amy and Kat chat about ways that will help them be more concise (If you have ADHD, this might help you too!)
They also discuss an interesting question that Kat’s husband asked her over dinner: “What is something you thought was normal when you were younger, but then you became an adult and realized not all families do this thing?” Kat and Amy both have some things that come to mind from their childhood, as well as a wild Thanksgiving tradition they heard about….which leads to Amy’s weird post life plan that involves apples.
Amy and Kat revisit last week’s episode about adding whimsy to your day, and Amy shares a new whimsical moment she has added while brushing her teeth this morning.
Lastly, they discuss a list of items we should NOT be buying our 40’s.
HAVE THE DAY (OR DINNER) YOU NEED TO HAVE!
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“I be saying the long story short, and then proceed to tell the double VHS Titanic version of the story.”
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and today's quote is a little meme from
my therapist, says and I'd be saying long story short
and then proceed to tell the double VHS Titanic version
of the story.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Which was the three hour version, which I.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Feel like that's probably both of us. Is that what
we do? I saw this other thing like about adhders
and how they often will tell the long story, but
if someone else is telling a story, they're like, can
you just get to the point already.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Because I have a story that I have to tell,
which I did.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Look up in case you're someone who tends to lean
more on the long side and you want to tell
a story in a concise way, Because I do think
this is something that I would like to work on.
It says here to focus on the most important details,
limit the number of characters, cut unnecessary descriptions. Although sometimes
I feel like, if I'm telling a story about my
(00:59):
best friend Andrew, I need to go back to when
we met when we were thirteen and our group of
friends that we would all hang out, even though really
I'm trying to say that she just opened a new
culvers in near North Austin, nothing to do with high school.
But then Bobby and I we met at a culvers,
which is actually her dad's culvers. And then when he
was first opening that culvers, my dad was in the
restaurant business and her dad was coming from the hospital
(01:21):
administration type world and he'd never opened a restaurant before,
so her dad would call my dad for advice, which
I thought was like, really cool. But do you see
how I'm bringing out of characters?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Have to story all of that so we understand what's
presently happening.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Which right here, the tip is limit the number of characters,
cut unnecessary descriptions, get to the point quickly, and prioritize
the key conflict and resolution, essentially showing, not telling, by
using concise language and impactful moments.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
One of my issues when I'm telling stories, though, is
when I'm telling and that kind of reminds me of
how you just went down that rabbit hole it was.
When I'm telling a story about something, I often then
remember other things that I'm like, oh, and then this,
so then I want to tell those stories as well.
So I think part of my problem with telling a
short story is it's not just one story. I'm telling
(02:10):
three or four and they all seem important.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I know, but if you want to get concise, you
got to limit the characters, which they go into more
detail here where I googled it keep the cast small
to avoid unnecessary character development and plot lines. And I'm like, what,
we want a good character rabbit trail.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
This also sounds like it's giving me tips for an
actual story I'm writing, like, I'm not thinking about the
plot line.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
What I'm telling you, Well, I did just google how
to tell a story in a shorter way? Okay, so
maybe maybe it wasn't you know, at a social event.
It's literally telling you how to write a shorter story.
So take from that what you will. Kat had a
question for us that is, I guess technically from your
husband because it's something that he asked you last night.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, and I'm already having feelings of how do I
keep this concise? Because I want to tell the backstory
of how we got to this, and it starts with us.
We decided to go to Mexican for dinner and we're
sitting there and I asked him a question. You know,
I'm the kind of person who just will come up
with random questions at any time, like they could have
to do with nothing but just to have fun conversation
(03:15):
than just talking about the weather and what's going on
in our lives. Anyway, So I said, you know what, Patrick,
I want you to ask me a question. And he
said okay, And honestly I should be doing that more
often because this was a very good question. He said,
what is something you thought when you were younger was
either normal or real in your own family that then
(03:39):
you grew up and became an adult and realized that's
either not real or that's not normal.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
And so how did you answer that? Well?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
At first I was like, wait, like Santa Claus, Like
I guess I thought Santa Claus it is yeah, yes, yeah, yeah,
Santa Claus is real. So I was like, WELLY can't
use that. So then he was like, no, think about
it more like something you thought was normal. I had
a hard time coming up with things, but he said
(04:08):
he always thought it was normal and thought that everybody
just watched TV when they ate dinner as a kid.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Like you sat in the you were not at the
kitchen table.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, with like a TV tray with your dinner that
whoever cooked and you watch TV show. So I thought
it was normal that I grew up with three siblings,
Like there was four kids in our in our family,
and I was like, that's the normal American family, four kids,
and as the dream, that's like the dream, the American dream.
And as I got older, I'm like, oh my gosh,
(04:37):
that is not the dream. I don't know how my
parents did it. And they never made us feel like
we were not loved or ignore.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I mean, we all have those little moments, but but
you weren't a burden.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It wasn't a burden. We felt like we had the resources.
And also it felt like they had the time. Like
I don't understand how they did it, but they made
it seem so normal. And as an adult, I'm like,
I understand why you only had two kids in your family.
But I thought was very weird when somebody was like,
always have one sister.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
What, Yeah, my sister has four and she does it effortlessly,
her and her husband. They've done such a great job.
And I'm over here, I'm like struggling with two and
I only have them every other week. I'm like, hmm, okay, okay,
well that's interesting. So I don't know how I would
answer that. I'm like, uh, is it that, Like, did
everybody watch Pretty Woman when they were nine? Because that
(05:28):
was normal in my family.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I still haven't seen that, so no, Okay, is that
r rated?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh for sure, she's a prostitute.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Okay, that could be one that.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I didn't know what her job was to clarify at nine,
I did not know that's what she was. And when
she had assorted colors of protection, I thought it was candy. Uh,
pick your color color because my dad definitely covered my
eyes during certain scenes.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah. I thought of one today because my dad came
over to help us do something. And my dad also
had to come to my therapy office this morning because
I have an issue with an outlet and I couldn't
figure out how to fix it. And I also think
that I thought it was very normal to have a
dad that could fix anything, like anything, and he could
build anything. If I needed a book, new bookshelf, my
(06:12):
dad could build a bookshelf. If we needed to build
a new deck, my dad could literally build a deck
on the back of our house. So that felt very normal.
And then growing up and also getting married, I'm like,
Patrick can barely make a picture frames you're.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Like, wait a second, my husband is not handy. And
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But I thought, that's just like what dads did. All
dads could literally do whatever you asked them to do.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
My dad was extremely handy, like your dad. He could
build anything, do anything. And I always thought I would
marry somebody like that. But then you realize, like, everybody
just has different skills and techniques. I didn't assume that
everybody was that way, but I definitely assumed I would
end up with someone like that. But then I was like, oh.
(06:55):
When I was married to Ben, I was like, but
he can fly an airplane and not everybody can do that.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So that was pretty hot. Not gonna lie, especially in
his flight suit when he was in the Air Force,
his uniform. And then you know, I'm dating now and
he might be handy TVD, jury's out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We have a picture for him to hang. Okay, let's
see if he can do it, and see if he
tries to do it with a nail or command shrips.
That's the test.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And will he just eyeball it or is he gonna
bring in like one of those you know finder the Yeah,
or the lines to make sure that it's straight. How
you can put that, Yeah, it's a level, but it's
a level electronic where it'll put a laser, a laser
there you go, a laser line, and that's your word
of the week, laser laser. So you know last week,
(07:42):
or maybe it was the week before, when were we
sharing our little whimsical moments, like I think it was
last week. If you're washing your dishes, you're like, are
you ready for a bath? Or you're peeling garlic, You're
like time to take your coat off. So I did
one this morning and I thought, oh, I need to
share this with kat. So I was brushing my teeth
and as I was brushing my teeth, I was like
(08:03):
going to the car wash because it just reminded me
like I was putting the bristles up to my teeth
and like the bubbles in my mouth performing from the toothpaste.
And then I started singing to them, and I was like, well,
fucking that the car wash.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Now you should start doing like laser lights in your
mouth too, because that's one of the best parts of
a car watch a car wash.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I don't go to the laser not.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Like lasers but don't they have like different colored lights
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I mean they're like red to stop and green to
go black? Hid I sware car.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Washing into a car wash in a long time, But
I promise I feel like they have like fun lights.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Maybe I just go to the one at Costco. OKAYI
out of like the brushes.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Maybe it's different color soaps or something.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Oh, that would be fun. I don't know that. I've
noticed that Costco is probably keeping the cost lane because
it is a pretty affordable okay, car wash situation. And
that's anytime I post about that, people like your Costco
has a car wash. That's I thought all Costcos had
car washes. They don't.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Oh that is true, because the one near me I
don't think has one.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I go to the one. I guess it's Imprintwater Franklin
Cool Springs in Cool Springs, which is to make Drinklado?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Patrick and I fight about this all the time. I
think it's Franklin, Okay, I think if you look up
the address, it says Franklin.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, they have a cheap gas and a car, a
car wash, and it's pretty amazing. So when I was
brushing my teeth. I took my teeth to the car
wash and it just made the whole thing more enjoyable.
And I do like the silliness of it. So if
you don't know what we're talking about, it's the thing
that went viral on Instagram of people sharing, mostly women,
(09:36):
ways they bring whimsy into their life and make things
more whimsical and playful and fun. And there were so
many cute examples, and I challenge you to give it
a try. Whatever it is you're doing at your house,
just be silly and ridiculous about it. You might be
washing your face, brushing your teeth, taking the dog for
a walk, whatever it is, cooking.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Dinner, blow drawing your hair. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Like, I just thought I'm gonna be cooking dinner in
a little bit and I'm doing ground beef with spaghetti
a mare and arisauce with meat and pasta. Heard of it? Maggie,
Are you mowing? Do you have something to say? Do
you have something to say? This is me being whimsical. See,
(10:22):
normally I would be annoyed that my cat is mewing,
but now I'm like, come up to the mic. What
do you have to say? Do you have thoughts? What
are you thinking right now? Do you need to get
out of the room?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Are you hungry?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Did I feed you today?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, so but I was thinking when I cook the
meat later, I feel like I might be like, I'm sorry,
little cow.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That's so sad. It's whimsy.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
But it also is just still playful.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, I guess, so it's like a depressing playful.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
But I mean, we know it's a you know, it's
a cow. Yeah, so I could just be like, I
wonder what your name was?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But does that make it harder to eat?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
If you were naming your meat, it's definitely got weird. Okay,
so I'm probably not going to do that. Which that's
my dinner. I started to wonder what other people's dinner
plans are often, like what's your go to meal? Because
at my house that is my go to when I
have a busy day. It's spaghetti with meat sauce, and
(11:23):
I'm pretty pumped about it, like I am excited. I
feel like my kids are like, eh, because they like
it when we have a busy day and they can
get Chipotle.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So that made me think, as a kid, what was
your like staple meals?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh my mom would make this chicken casserole that was epic.
I used to say it would be my last meal,
like if I was being executed, which is weird, but
wouldn't That's again we used to play oh yeah, your
death row meal, which is terrible. It is terrible, terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Why did you do that? Let's play it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So uh yeah. So if I was in that situation,
I'm trying to think of what all was in it.
But it was like readed chicken, mayonnaise, I'm out, green beans,
I know you're out. I know you don't like mayonnaise,
but beer with me, green beans, pimento curry, I don't know.
And you mixed it all together. Maybe if there was
some rice, can't remember. It's a castro. You can just
(12:15):
add whatever. It was so stinking good. You put bread
crumbs on top.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Do you ever make that now?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
No, I haven't made that since two thousand and one.
I don't think it's been a minute twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I would make it a lot in college because it
was easy to just get it all and put it
all together and eat it out of the castle dish.
I mean, I probably need to make it. I wonder
if my kids would like it. Yeah, I'll give it
a go.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What about you? So my mom would make poppy seed
chicken a lot, which I didn't love because there's mayonnaise
in it. But she would make pasta and spaghetti and
that was my favorite meal was when we had spaghetti.
But she like homemade her sauce all day and would
make meat balls. It was the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Mine's out of a jar, which is still good.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But I remember whenever they made like grilled chicken, like
on the grill and sliced it and had like a
vegetable and something. I hated that meal. It was so
boring to me, and as adult, I'm like, that's delicious.
I love that meal. So it's just also weird how
this meal that they probably thought was normal. I was like, Mom,
grilled chicken again.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So, speaking of meals and things you think are normal
or things your family maybe does that you think other
people do. Before Cat and I were recording, she was
telling me and Shannon like Shannon works with me, and
we were in the kitchen and we were all talking
and Cat presented the question of things that are normal
from your childhood, or at least that you thought were normal,
(13:49):
And Shannon said Oh my gosh, I just heard about
this family that when they gather for Thanksgiving, they make
a plate for every family member that has passed on,
as if they're there and they're going to sit at
the table and eat it. However, instead of putting it
(14:10):
at the table and maybe just looking at it, they
then go take the plate and bury the food in
the backyard.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Are they burying the plate? I should have clarified that.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Surely's just the food.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Good question. It's like a ceremony situation that goes down
in honor of loved ones that have passed on.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But I'm like, how far back are we going? Because
that's a lot of plates.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I know they'd be like me Ma, Mama Chris who's
his first husband, and then louis the second husband. Me
Mall is my great grandma, Mama Chris is my grandma.
But then now my uncle Joe's gone, my mom's gone.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But do you have to go past your great grandma?
That's my thing. It's like all the dad.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think it's like people that you knew, whoever at
the table, you had to be alive when they were alive.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, that makes more sense because how many how much
food are we making?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So I'm still processing how I feel about that whole thing.
I mean, I guess if that's the way you honor
those that have pasts. I just had never heard of it.
I think it's called a pagan thanksgiving or something.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
My main thought I'm still sticking with is like, how
much extra food do you have to make? Because Thanksgivings
already a lot of food to make. It's like a
lot of work, but.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's a waste. And then I feel like animals are
going to be coming to your backyard to dig up
the food.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
What if you start growing different plants if you like
bury like a I don't know, what if watermelons are
on your plate and then you start growing all these
watermelons or pumpkins or something.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So that reminds me I would like to be an
apple tree when I die. I think that you can
use some of my ashes to plant a tree and
then grow fruit from.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Me, like you would become like soil or nutrients. Yes,
you're not the apple tree, you're helping it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But I am. I mean parts of me that would be.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Are taken into the apple tree and then you become that. Okay,
what made you think that, because you know you can
do all kinds of stuff when you die. My forensic
science teacher growing up in high school, he said he
was going to be turned into a diamond, him and
his wife and then his kids. I guess like, oh, yeah,
you can do that. So you want to be an
apple tree.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Though, so I just looked it up. Yes, you can
technically incorporate your ashes into soil around an apple tree
to grow apples, but it's important to do so carefully,
as ashes can be too alkaline for most plants, including
apple trees, and could potentially harm the tree if not
mixed properly. Obviously, I would have it mixed properly. Duh,
I'd have that my will. Please make sure I'm mixed properly.
(16:35):
You have a soil expert on hand. The best way
to achieve this is by using a specialized biodegradable urn.
There you go. Now you know I need to be
in a biodegradable urn designed for planting ashes with trees,
which helps neutralize the alkalinity and ensures the tree can
grow healthily.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So do you want to be a new tree that
is planted or do you want to be incorporated to
another tree, like a tree that you already know is
going to produce fruit.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Let me answer that after I look up how long
it takes for an apple tree to produce fruit.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And also I'd be curious to know what brought you
to this.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I just remember hearing about it a long time ago,
and I thought that would be cool. Well, if I
want a dwarf apple tree, these trees are the smallest
and produce fruit within two to four years. These are
a popular choice for home gardeners. So I could divide
me up. You could split me up and all my
friends and family can have an apple tree. I could
(17:33):
get a semi dwarf apple tree that would produce fruit
within four to six years. A standard apple tree takes
about six to ten years.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I like the dwarf idea because maybe that could be
like in your kid's backyard versus like an apple or
good apple tree is a big tree. You could just
like have that anywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Do you know? My sister and I used to have
a blog back in the day called One Plum Tree
because we grew up and we only had one plum
tree in our backyard.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
What was the blog about?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
We did recipes and short stories. I think you can
still go to it one plum tree dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know what will come out. Short stories. Were
they short? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
They were like blog posts. Okay, I'm sure I got
to the point and I lifted the characters. Yeah, it
was back when we were bloggers, probably twenty eleven, twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Was it like a zanga like you had those growing up?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Did the plum tree?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No? Oh, species of plump trees?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I meant it was like it was word press. Oh, okay,
I mean okay, and I think we have you know,
five to six centuries.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So didn' last long.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
We were busy, Okay, it was something we were trying
to take on again, I said, my sister had has four.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Kids, but that's that long.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Good work on it. It was awesome. But our mom
also got sick during that time, so she had cancer.
And then I know my sister posted to it after
my mom died because that's where she wrote her blog
about pure Grace. And it's so good. I've read it
on the podcast a couple of times, I believe over
the year. It's definitely a good read. So yeah, one Plumtree.
(19:03):
Hit it up dot com, not hit it up dot com,
but one plumtree dot com.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Oh, you haven't bought that domain.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Let me just go to it for you, one plum.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Are you still paying for that domain? Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Dang, it says Safari can't find server one plum Okay,
if you go to one plumtree dot WordPress dot com,
it's there, it says at the top. One plumtree and
two sisters who used to have a lot. That's about
(19:35):
growing up. We had a plum tree in our backyard.
Its harvest was abundant, but neglected and forgotten, left only
to produce the delicious stone fruit that would inevitably fall
to the ground to become a food host for some
broad broad broad broad.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
What are you trying to say?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
My sister wrote this port broad of broad, of bugs,
broad of bugs, so forgotten that our mom recently denied
even having such a tree. Hence our reason for beginning
this online journal, for mom, for Dad, for ourselves, a
humble attempt to archive tidbits of our pasts and presence that,
without such might be long forgotten like that one plum tree.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Wait, that's actually really cute.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I know we should have kept this going. Oh my gosh,
some listeners commented amy this was great number one listener here.
That's from Lena Owens shout out January sixth, twenty twelve.
From Jerry on January seventh, twenty twelve, we must have
put on like the Bobby Buonchow facebook page and I
was like, check this out.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Amy insists if you're gonna do recipes, you really need
to show a close up up the dish and maybe
place it on a plate for presentation. It looked really great.
Great job, Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So man, those people are still waiting for the next
entry from Samantha. Thank you Amy. I moved to Germany
this past summer and the food here is lacking all
the flavor I'm used to. I'm solely trying to get
them to try new things. They're all so skeptical about
new stuff. Anyways, mac and cheese was on my list
of things to make. I guess she's commenting, we put
up our mac and cheese recipe.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Cool. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So many people took time to comment this is so fun. Okay, well,
memory Lane, that is one plum tree and two sisters
who used to have one.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So have you changed your mind? Do you want to
be a plum tree?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I probably should. But do they have dwarf ones? How
long does it take to produce fruit?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Plum tree seems smaller. You might want to look at
the like where they can grow, like the climate that
it needs.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Let's be honest. I don't really know that I'm gonna
be buried. I don't even know that I'm gonna be cremated.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So you're not gonna be married or cremated. What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You might need to back up this whole thing, but
I mean I think I will.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
We have talked about your execution. Yeah, what's gonna happen
to your roommates?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I had a thing we were going to talk about
things we shouldn't be buying in our forties.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, well, we haven't gotten to it for the future
because I am concerned. If you're not gonna be buried
or cremated, what's happening to you? You're going to decompose
in the woods.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you. I'm gonna be
one of those two things. I just don't know which.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, Okay. I was like, what do you think is
gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You gonna be frozen and brought back to life, Yes,
except for I think that you have to freeze yourself
before you fully die.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So you have to kill yourself essentially.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
No, well, yes, by freezation, would that be like hypothermia. Yeah,
you're like frozen, but you're.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Preserved Okay, preserved yeah, okay, like meat that you put
in the freezer or something.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But the fraisation is obviously the term. It's obviously the
proper medical term freezation.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Okay, I'm gonna freezation my body. That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, I can just go over the list real quick
in case anybody's shopping this week, they need to know.
If they're in their forties, don't buy these things. Okay,
cheap trendy clothing. Cheap trendy clothing, although fast fashion comes
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in handy. Sometimes that's his opinion. Take or leave Yeah, take.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It or leave it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm not saying I totally agree with that, although I
do think we should be more conscious and mindful, because
sometimes you can hit up H and M and you
leave there and you're like, why why do I have
all all these things? Super tight or revealing clothing, opt
for styles that flatter your body shape without being too revealing,
trendy accessories that are too youthful. But then how do
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you know that you're too old for it? I say,
wear whatever you want, but it's a fine line.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, I don't want to be wearing the same thing
that like a twelve year old's wearing. But there's a
difference between children's clothing and like clothing for adults.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Large collections of unused hobby supplies things you should not
be buying in your forties. It does not say that
I literally pulled this because I saw that. O. I
know that you have so many hobbies.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Supplies this list it says.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It says, don't stockpile craft materials for a hobby you
might not stick with.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Okay, I strongly disagree strong strongly.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Impulsive gadget purchases. Think carefully about whether a new tech
gadget actually solves a problem you have before buying it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Tech scares me, So I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Furniture that is not practical for your lifestyle, choose furniture
that is comfortable, functional, and fits your space.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well, you said buy what I could afford.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, I mean I think that's relative to like what
you can get. Yeah. I used to spend a lot
of time at antique stores and second hand type shops.
When I lived in North Carolina, they had a ton
of those in southern Pines and little towns around there.
So I would go drive around and I would end
up buying stuff that I didn't really need because I'd
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be like, this is such a good deal on this
table from obviously, or you're buying things that are just
for the ascetic look of something and then you're like,
I don't want to lay on this cow yeah, like
it's not comfortable. And then lastly, high maintenance beauty products
you don't understand. Focus on skincare and makeup that suits
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your needs and is easy to use.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
What would that mean?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Like that you don't understand, Like like for me, foundation.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Base You know our foundation? Ever? I guess if you're.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Evidence, I do, but I tried to buy some recently
and I don't even know what I was buying. You know,
what I want to look into is that I'm getting
targeted ads for Jon's Road or it's Bobby Brown's OH
line for mature skin.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
First of all, I love that term. You've used it before.
I've never heard of that. Is that foundation or is
it just like skincare?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It is Jones Road Beauty clean no makeup makeup. Oh ooh,
I like that. I'm wearing clean no makeup makeup. It's
actually makeup, but it looks like no makeup free from
Sulfate's paar Bins and Fleerletts with I don't know what
I see her ads. Maybe they pop up in my
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feed more because I'm older than you, cat, But just wait.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I don't have mature skin.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You'll get there. But it looks so good like it
looks creamy and dewy.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's what I use. That Elta MD tinted sunscreen. That's
what I use most days, unless I'm going to something
special for foundation, and then I just put like a
bronzing stick and a blush on top of it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
But I may give this Jones Road Beauty.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Give it a try, and then you can give us
a review.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I may give it a try, it says, I went
to their instagram. This is beauty reinvented, founded by Bobby Brown.
But then a lot of stuff you see online it
looks good on other people, and then you get it
and you put it on and you're like.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
What, Well, that's why I thank god mall still exists.
You can go to the mall and you can have
them test it on your skin. I used to love
going to the mall to like department stores and testing
makeup and they'll do it for free.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Do you ever, when you have an event go to
the mall to get your makeup done?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Why have I not thought about that as an adult?
I did it all the time as a kid.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I to do is buy like an eyeshadow.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, we would always go to Mac that we would
have your makeup done at Mac and you would just
have to spend forty dollars, which is literally like a lipstick.
Why have I not thought about that?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I don't know. Well, now here you go, We'll go
to Bobby Brown and have them do it. I know,
but I don't know if she's still involved, Like I
wonder if she's sold because now she's doing this.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Oh, this is a whole different brand.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It's called Jones Road.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I thought it was like stopid. I thought it was
like a line at Bobby Brown, like, oh, have you
seen our Jones Road line? So she just made another
makeup brand with another name. Is she Jones Road?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
She is here we go, let's give people a little
lesson here, Yes, Bobby Brown sold her cosmetics brand to
es Day Lauder in nineteen ninety five. Then she left
the company in twenty sixteen, so she was still a
part of it until then. Oh wowsers. So she launched
Bobby Brown the brand in nineteen ninety one. Then Esday
lad bought it for seventy four point five million dollars.
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She stayed on as the chief creative officer. Imagine that
someone just bought your company for seventy four million dollars
and you still work.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, I don't get those people's work ethic is different
than mine. I'm like most we never have to work again,
and I'm thirty three.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
She left the company twenty sixteen and returned to being
a makeup artist and entrepreneur. In twenty twenty, she launched
Jones Road Beauty, a clean beauty brand okay, so totally different,
which has gone viral on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So you probably can't go to them all and test
this out then, because they probably don't have a kiosk.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
So get this. She signed a twenty five year non
compete agreement when she sold to Essay Lauder, and her
non compete ended in October of twenty twenty. And then
in twenty twenty, she launched No Jones Road.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Wow, so she's been waiting to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
The more you know, case this ever comes up anywhere, Wait,
you're gonna have the information.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Can you look up where you can buy that, like
other than just online? Can you buy that Sephora because
they could do your makeup.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
They could Alta and Sephora.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
It says, okay, done, Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
The more you know, the more you know. All right, Kat,
where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
On Instagram? At Kat van Buren.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And I am at Radio Amy and I hope whatever
you're having for dinner tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
It's the dinner you need to have.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
The dinner you need to have, because that's what I'm doing.
And if my kids say anything and be like, this
is the dinner you need to have, kids, Kat would
have loved this dinner as a kid.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Do you know what you're cooking tonight?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I think we're making those pepper nacho things that just
ends up being peppers and ground meat and cheese and chips.
It's the easiest meal to make ever. It takes five
minutes away.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Like a bell pepper.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We get those mini peppers and we slice them and
then we bake them a little bit and then we
put ground meat and black beans. And sorry, little cow,
you have to try that out there.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Sorry, little pepper. Did you know plants can cry?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'm sorry, little avocado. I'm just smushing you all up.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, you like that. It's a massage. Oh I wish
someone would like an avocado. I have to say, smash
that smash are you read?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Wait? What? Are you ready for your massage?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Little avocado? It's like, yeah, would you like me take
your coat? Let me see if you're ready for your massage.
And you have to like see if it's squishy enough,
because you have to test the avocado before you open it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Well, and if it's really hard and you just have
to use it anyway, you can just be like, wow,
you just got a lot of knots in your neck.
You haven't been stretching.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Really, you're gonna have to work hard to mush you down. See, guys,
it's not that difficult once you start. It may feel
weird at first, but who cares.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And then you won't be able to stop.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And this is the way you want to live life.
You don't want to live life boring. You don't want
to be plain vanilla to be frenchman out. We've gone
over this.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And then when people walk into your house, like who
are you talking to? And they're gonna be like, my avocados,
who are you talking to?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Do you want to talk to my avocado? Would you
like to come give it a massage? I could use
some help because I get to go over here and
remove some coats from my garlic. May take your coat smash.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
And later I'm taking my teeth to the car wash.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
All right, dinners for a time to go to the
car I think could you imagine if people come over
and we're just having like all these conversations that like
don't make it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Or like you start dating somebody new and you sleep
over their house the first time and you're like, oh,
it's time to go to the carwash, and it's closed
and you're like, no, it's.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Not I don't know if that person would keep dating you.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Wait, you gotta try that out.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You gotta like hook people before you No, they should
love you for who you are. Yeah, that's true. Just
go ahead and show them the crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Before my it's not crazy, it's whimsical.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's whimsical. So have the day. You need to have
have the dinner you need to have, and don't forget
show your whimsy.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Amen, Bye, bye,
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and today's quote is a little meme from
my therapist, says and I'd be saying long story short
and then proceed to tell the double VHS Titanic version
of the story.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Which was the three hour version, which I.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Feel like that's probably both of us. Is that what
we do? I saw this other thing like about adhders
and how they often will tell the long story, but
if someone else is telling a story, they're like, can
you just get to the point already.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Because I have a story that I have to tell,
which I did.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Look up in case you're someone who tends to lean
more on the long side and you want to tell
a story in a concise way, Because I do think
this is something that I would like to work on.
It says here to focus on the most important details,
limit the number of characters, cut unnecessary descriptions. Although sometimes
I feel like, if I'm telling a story about my
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best friend Andrew, I need to go back to when
we met when we were thirteen and our group of
friends that we would all hang out, even though really
I'm trying to say that she just opened a new
culvers in near North Austin, nothing to do with high school.
But then Bobby and I we met at a culvers,
which is actually her dad's culvers. And then when he
was first opening that culvers, my dad was in the
restaurant business and her dad was coming from the hospital
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administration type world and he'd never opened a restaurant before,
so her dad would call my dad for advice, which
I thought was like, really cool. But do you see
how I'm bringing out of characters?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Have to story all of that so we understand what's
presently happening.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Which right here, the tip is limit the number of characters,
cut unnecessary descriptions, get to the point quickly, and prioritize
the key conflict and resolution, essentially showing, not telling, by
using concise language and impactful moments.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
One of my issues when I'm telling stories, though, is
when I'm telling and that kind of reminds me of
how you just went down that rabbit hole it was.
When I'm telling a story about something, I often then
remember other things that I'm like, oh, and then this,
so then I want to tell those stories as well.
So I think part of my problem with telling a
short story is it's not just one story. I'm telling
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three or four and they all seem important.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I know, but if you want to get concise, you
got to limit the characters, which they go into more
detail here where I googled it keep the cast small
to avoid unnecessary character development and plot lines. And I'm like, what,
we want a good character rabbit trail.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
This also sounds like it's giving me tips for an
actual story I'm writing, like, I'm not thinking about the
plot line.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
What I'm telling you, Well, I did just google how
to tell a story in a shorter way? Okay, so
maybe maybe it wasn't you know, at a social event.
It's literally telling you how to write a shorter story.
So take from that what you will. Kat had a
question for us that is, I guess technically from your
husband because it's something that he asked you last night.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, and I'm already having feelings of how do I
keep this concise? Because I want to tell the backstory
of how we got to this, and it starts with us.
We decided to go to Mexican for dinner and we're
sitting there and I asked him a question. You know,
I'm the kind of person who just will come up
with random questions at any time, like they could have
to do with nothing but just to have fun conversation
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than just talking about the weather and what's going on
in our lives. Anyway, So I said, you know what, Patrick,
I want you to ask me a question. And he
said okay, And honestly I should be doing that more
often because this was a very good question. He said,
what is something you thought when you were younger was
either normal or real in your own family that then
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you grew up and became an adult and realized that's
either not real or that's not normal.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
And so how did you answer that? Well?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
At first I was like, wait, like Santa Claus, Like
I guess I thought Santa Claus it is yeah, yes, yeah, yeah,
Santa Claus is real. So I was like, WELLY can't
use that. So then he was like, no, think about
it more like something you thought was normal. I had
a hard time coming up with things, but he said
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he always thought it was normal and thought that everybody
just watched TV when they ate dinner as a kid.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Like you sat in the you were not at the
kitchen table.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, with like a TV tray with your dinner that
whoever cooked and you watch TV show. So I thought
it was normal that I grew up with three siblings,
Like there was four kids in our in our family,
and I was like, that's the normal American family, four kids,
and as the dream, that's like the dream, the American dream.
And as I got older, I'm like, oh my gosh,
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that is not the dream. I don't know how my
parents did it. And they never made us feel like
we were not loved or ignore.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I mean, we all have those little moments, but but
you weren't a burden.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It wasn't a burden. We felt like we had the resources.
And also it felt like they had the time. Like
I don't understand how they did it, but they made
it seem so normal. And as an adult, I'm like,
I understand why you only had two kids in your family.
But I thought was very weird when somebody was like,
always have one sister.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
What, Yeah, my sister has four and she does it effortlessly,
her and her husband. They've done such a great job.
And I'm over here, I'm like struggling with two and
I only have them every other week. I'm like, hmm, okay, okay,
well that's interesting. So I don't know how I would
answer that. I'm like, uh, is it that, Like, did
everybody watch Pretty Woman when they were nine? Because that
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was normal in my family.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
I still haven't seen that, so no, Okay, is that
r rated?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Oh for sure, she's a prostitute.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Okay, that could be one that.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I didn't know what her job was to clarify at nine,
I did not know that's what she was. And when
she had assorted colors of protection, I thought it was candy. Uh,
pick your color color because my dad definitely covered my
eyes during certain scenes.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah. I thought of one today because my dad came
over to help us do something. And my dad also
had to come to my therapy office this morning because
I have an issue with an outlet and I couldn't
figure out how to fix it. And I also think
that I thought it was very normal to have a
dad that could fix anything, like anything, and he could
build anything. If I needed a book, new bookshelf, my
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dad could build a bookshelf. If we needed to build
a new deck, my dad could literally build a deck
on the back of our house. So that felt very normal.
And then growing up and also getting married, I'm like,
Patrick can barely make a picture frames you're.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Like, wait a second, my husband is not handy. And
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But I thought, that's just like what dads did. All
dads could literally do whatever you asked them to do.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
My dad was extremely handy, like your dad. He could
build anything, do anything. And I always thought I would
marry somebody like that. But then you realize, like, everybody
just has different skills and techniques. I didn't assume that
everybody was that way, but I definitely assumed I would
end up with someone like that. But then I was like, oh.
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When I was married to Ben, I was like, but
he can fly an airplane and not everybody can do that.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So that was pretty hot. Not gonna lie, especially in
his flight suit when he was in the Air Force,
his uniform. And then you know, I'm dating now and
he might be handy TVD, jury's out.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We have a picture for him to hang. Okay, let's
see if he can do it, and see if he
tries to do it with a nail or command shrips.
That's the test.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And will he just eyeball it or is he gonna
bring in like one of those you know finder the Yeah,
or the lines to make sure that it's straight. How
you can put that, Yeah, it's a level, but it's
a level electronic where it'll put a laser, a laser
there you go, a laser line, and that's your word
of the week, laser laser. So you know last week,
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or maybe it was the week before, when were we
sharing our little whimsical moments, like I think it was
last week. If you're washing your dishes, you're like, are
you ready for a bath? Or you're peeling garlic, You're
like time to take your coat off. So I did
one this morning and I thought, oh, I need to
share this with kat. So I was brushing my teeth
and as I was brushing my teeth, I was like
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going to the car wash because it just reminded me
like I was putting the bristles up to my teeth
and like the bubbles in my mouth performing from the toothpaste.
And then I started singing to them, and I was like, well,
fucking that the car wash.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Now you should start doing like laser lights in your
mouth too, because that's one of the best parts of
a car watch a car wash.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
I don't go to the laser not.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Like lasers but don't they have like different colored lights
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
I mean they're like red to stop and green to
go black? Hid I sware car.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Washing into a car wash in a long time, But
I promise I feel like they have like fun lights.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Maybe it is.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Maybe I just go to the one at Costco. OKAYI
out of like the brushes.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Maybe it's different color soaps or something.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Oh, that would be fun. I don't know that. I've
noticed that Costco is probably keeping the cost lane because
it is a pretty affordable okay, car wash situation. And
that's anytime I post about that, people like your Costco
has a car wash. That's I thought all Costcos had
car washes. They don't.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Oh that is true, because the one near me I
don't think has one.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I go to the one. I guess it's Imprintwater Franklin
Cool Springs in Cool Springs, which is to make Drinklado?
Is it?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Patrick and I fight about this all the time. I
think it's Franklin, Okay, I think if you look up
the address, it says Franklin.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, they have a cheap gas and a car, a
car wash, and it's pretty amazing. So when I was
brushing my teeth. I took my teeth to the car
wash and it just made the whole thing more enjoyable.
And I do like the silliness of it. So if
you don't know what we're talking about, it's the thing
that went viral on Instagram of people sharing, mostly women,
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ways they bring whimsy into their life and make things
more whimsical and playful and fun. And there were so
many cute examples, and I challenge you to give it
a try. Whatever it is you're doing at your house,
just be silly and ridiculous about it. You might be
washing your face, brushing your teeth, taking the dog for
a walk, whatever it is, cooking.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Dinner, blow drawing your hair. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Like, I just thought I'm gonna be cooking dinner in
a little bit and I'm doing ground beef with spaghetti
a mare and arisauce with meat and pasta. Heard of it? Maggie,
Are you mowing? Do you have something to say? Do
you have something to say? This is me being whimsical. See,
(10:22):
normally I would be annoyed that my cat is mewing,
but now I'm like, come up to the mic. What
do you have to say? Do you have thoughts? What
are you thinking right now? Do you need to get
out of the room?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Are you hungry?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Did I feed you today?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Actually?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Okay, so but I was thinking when I cook the
meat later, I feel like I might be like, I'm sorry,
little cow.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
That's so sad. It's whimsy.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
But it also is just still playful.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, I guess, so it's like a depressing playful.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
But I mean, we know it's a you know, it's
a cow. Yeah, so I could just be like, I
wonder what your name was?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
But does that make it harder to eat?
Speaker 1 (11:02):
If you were naming your meat, it's definitely got weird. Okay,
so I'm probably not going to do that. Which that's
my dinner. I started to wonder what other people's dinner
plans are often, like what's your go to meal? Because
at my house that is my go to when I
have a busy day. It's spaghetti with meat sauce, and
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I'm pretty pumped about it, like I am excited. I
feel like my kids are like, eh, because they like
it when we have a busy day and they can
get Chipotle.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So that made me think, as a kid, what was
your like staple meals?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Oh my mom would make this chicken casserole that was epic.
I used to say it would be my last meal,
like if I was being executed, which is weird, but
wouldn't That's again we used to play oh yeah, your
death row meal, which is terrible. It is terrible, terrible.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Why did you do that? Let's play it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So uh yeah. So if I was in that situation,
I'm trying to think of what all was in it.
But it was like readed chicken, mayonnaise, I'm out, green beans,
I know you're out. I know you don't like mayonnaise,
but beer with me, green beans, pimento curry, I don't know.
And you mixed it all together. Maybe if there was
some rice, can't remember. It's a castro. You can just
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add whatever. It was so stinking good. You put bread
crumbs on top.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Do you ever make that now?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
No, I haven't made that since two thousand and one.
I don't think it's been a minute twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I would make it a lot in college because it
was easy to just get it all and put it
all together and eat it out of the castle dish.
I mean, I probably need to make it. I wonder
if my kids would like it. Yeah, I'll give it
a go.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What about you? So my mom would make poppy seed
chicken a lot, which I didn't love because there's mayonnaise
in it. But she would make pasta and spaghetti and
that was my favorite meal was when we had spaghetti.
But she like homemade her sauce all day and would
make meat balls. It was the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Mine's out of a jar, which is still good.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But I remember whenever they made like grilled chicken, like
on the grill and sliced it and had like a
vegetable and something. I hated that meal. It was so
boring to me, and as adult, I'm like, that's delicious.
I love that meal. So it's just also weird how
this meal that they probably thought was normal. I was like, Mom,
grilled chicken again.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So, speaking of meals and things you think are normal
or things your family maybe does that you think other
people do. Before Cat and I were recording, she was
telling me and Shannon like Shannon works with me, and
we were in the kitchen and we were all talking
and Cat presented the question of things that are normal
from your childhood, or at least that you thought were normal,
(13:49):
And Shannon said Oh my gosh, I just heard about
this family that when they gather for Thanksgiving, they make
a plate for every family member that has passed on,
as if they're there and they're going to sit at
the table and eat it. However, instead of putting it
(14:10):
at the table and maybe just looking at it, they
then go take the plate and bury the food in
the backyard.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Are they burying the plate? I should have clarified that.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Surely's just the food.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Good question. It's like a ceremony situation that goes down
in honor of loved ones that have passed on.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But I'm like, how far back are we going? Because
that's a lot of plates.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I know they'd be like me Ma, Mama Chris who's
his first husband, and then louis the second husband. Me
Mall is my great grandma, Mama Chris is my grandma.
But then now my uncle Joe's gone, my mom's gone.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But do you have to go past your great grandma?
That's my thing. It's like all the dad.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I think it's like people that you knew, whoever at
the table, you had to be alive when they were alive.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, that makes more sense because how many how much
food are we making?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So I'm still processing how I feel about that whole thing.
I mean, I guess if that's the way you honor
those that have pasts. I just had never heard of it.
I think it's called a pagan thanksgiving or something.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
My main thought I'm still sticking with is like, how
much extra food do you have to make? Because Thanksgivings
already a lot of food to make. It's like a
lot of work, but.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's a waste. And then I feel like animals are
going to be coming to your backyard to dig up
the food.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
What if you start growing different plants if you like
bury like a I don't know, what if watermelons are
on your plate and then you start growing all these
watermelons or pumpkins or something.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So that reminds me I would like to be an
apple tree when I die. I think that you can
use some of my ashes to plant a tree and
then grow fruit from.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Me, like you would become like soil or nutrients. Yes,
you're not the apple tree, you're helping it.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
But I am. I mean parts of me that would be.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Are taken into the apple tree and then you become that. Okay,
what made you think that, because you know you can
do all kinds of stuff when you die. My forensic
science teacher growing up in high school, he said he
was going to be turned into a diamond, him and
his wife and then his kids. I guess like, oh, yeah,
you can do that. So you want to be an
apple tree.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Though, so I just looked it up. Yes, you can
technically incorporate your ashes into soil around an apple tree
to grow apples, but it's important to do so carefully,
as ashes can be too alkaline for most plants, including
apple trees, and could potentially harm the tree if not
mixed properly. Obviously, I would have it mixed properly. Duh,
I'd have that my will. Please make sure I'm mixed properly.
(16:35):
You have a soil expert on hand. The best way
to achieve this is by using a specialized biodegradable urn.
There you go. Now you know I need to be
in a biodegradable urn designed for planting ashes with trees,
which helps neutralize the alkalinity and ensures the tree can
grow healthily.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So do you want to be a new tree that
is planted or do you want to be incorporated to
another tree, like a tree that you already know is
going to produce fruit.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Let me answer that after I look up how long
it takes for an apple tree to produce fruit.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And also I'd be curious to know what brought you
to this.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I just remember hearing about it a long time ago,
and I thought that would be cool. Well, if I
want a dwarf apple tree, these trees are the smallest
and produce fruit within two to four years. These are
a popular choice for home gardeners. So I could divide
me up. You could split me up and all my
friends and family can have an apple tree. I could
(17:33):
get a semi dwarf apple tree that would produce fruit
within four to six years. A standard apple tree takes
about six to ten years.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I like the dwarf idea because maybe that could be
like in your kid's backyard versus like an apple or
good apple tree is a big tree. You could just
like have that anywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Do you know? My sister and I used to have
a blog back in the day called One Plum Tree
because we grew up and we only had one plum
tree in our backyard.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
What was the blog about?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
We did recipes and short stories. I think you can
still go to it one plum tree dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know what will come out. Short stories. Were
they short? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
They were like blog posts. Okay, I'm sure I got
to the point and I lifted the characters. Yeah, it
was back when we were bloggers, probably twenty eleven, twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Was it like a zanga like you had those growing up?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Did the plum tree?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
No? Oh, species of plump trees?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I meant it was like it was word press. Oh, okay,
I mean okay, and I think we have you know,
five to six centuries.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So didn' last long.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
We were busy, Okay, it was something we were trying
to take on again, I said, my sister had has four.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Kids, but that's that long.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Good work on it. It was awesome. But our mom
also got sick during that time, so she had cancer.
And then I know my sister posted to it after
my mom died because that's where she wrote her blog
about pure Grace. And it's so good. I've read it
on the podcast a couple of times, I believe over
the year. It's definitely a good read. So yeah, one Plumtree.
(19:03):
Hit it up dot com, not hit it up dot com,
but one plumtree dot com.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Oh, you haven't bought that domain.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Let me just go to it for you, one plum.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Are you still paying for that domain? Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Dang, it says Safari can't find server one plum Okay,
if you go to one plumtree dot WordPress dot com,
it's there, it says at the top. One plumtree and
two sisters who used to have a lot. That's about
(19:35):
growing up. We had a plum tree in our backyard.
Its harvest was abundant, but neglected and forgotten, left only
to produce the delicious stone fruit that would inevitably fall
to the ground to become a food host for some
broad broad broad broad.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
What are you trying to say?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
My sister wrote this port broad of broad, of bugs,
broad of bugs, so forgotten that our mom recently denied
even having such a tree. Hence our reason for beginning
this online journal, for mom, for Dad, for ourselves, a
humble attempt to archive tidbits of our pasts and presence that,
without such might be long forgotten like that one plum tree.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Wait, that's actually really cute.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I know we should have kept this going. Oh my gosh,
some listeners commented amy this was great number one listener here.
That's from Lena Owens shout out January sixth, twenty twelve.
From Jerry on January seventh, twenty twelve, we must have
put on like the Bobby Buonchow facebook page and I
was like, check this out.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Amy insists if you're gonna do recipes, you really need
to show a close up up the dish and maybe
place it on a plate for presentation. It looked really great.
Great job, Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
So man, those people are still waiting for the next
entry from Samantha. Thank you Amy. I moved to Germany
this past summer and the food here is lacking all
the flavor I'm used to. I'm solely trying to get
them to try new things. They're all so skeptical about
new stuff. Anyways, mac and cheese was on my list
of things to make. I guess she's commenting, we put
up our mac and cheese recipe.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Cool. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So many people took time to comment this is so fun. Okay, well,
memory Lane, that is one plum tree and two sisters
who used to have one.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So have you changed your mind? Do you want to
be a plum tree?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I probably should. But do they have dwarf ones? How
long does it take to produce fruit?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Plum tree seems smaller. You might want to look at
the like where they can grow, like the climate that
it needs.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Let's be honest. I don't really know that I'm gonna
be buried. I don't even know that I'm gonna be cremated.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So you're not gonna be married or cremated. What's gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You might need to back up this whole thing, but
I mean I think I will.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
We have talked about your execution. Yeah, what's gonna happen
to your roommates?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I had a thing we were going to talk about
things we shouldn't be buying in our forties.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Well, well, we haven't gotten to it for the future
because I am concerned. If you're not gonna be buried
or cremated, what's happening to you? You're going to decompose
in the woods.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you. I'm gonna be
one of those two things. I just don't know which.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, Okay. I was like, what do you think is
gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You gonna be frozen and brought back to life, Yes,
except for I think that you have to freeze yourself
before you fully die.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So you have to kill yourself essentially.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
No, well, yes, by freezation, would that be like hypothermia. Yeah,
you're like frozen, but you're.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Preserved Okay, preserved yeah, okay, like meat that you put
in the freezer or something.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
But the fraisation is obviously the term. It's obviously the
proper medical term freezation.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Okay, I'm gonna freezation my body. That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, I can just go over the list real quick
in case anybody's shopping this week, they need to know.
If they're in their forties, don't buy these things. Okay,
cheap trendy clothing. Cheap trendy clothing, although fast fashion comes
(23:03):
in handy. Sometimes that's his opinion. Take or leave Yeah, take.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It or leave it.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm not saying I totally agree with that, although I
do think we should be more conscious and mindful, because
sometimes you can hit up H and M and you
leave there and you're like, why why do I have
all all these things? Super tight or revealing clothing, opt
for styles that flatter your body shape without being too revealing,
trendy accessories that are too youthful. But then how do
(23:31):
you know that you're too old for it? I say,
wear whatever you want, but it's a fine line.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, I don't want to be wearing the same thing
that like a twelve year old's wearing. But there's a
difference between children's clothing and like clothing for adults.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Large collections of unused hobby supplies things you should not
be buying in your forties. It does not say that
I literally pulled this because I saw that. O. I
know that you have so many hobbies.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Supplies this list it says.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It says, don't stockpile craft materials for a hobby you
might not stick with.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Okay, I strongly disagree strong strongly.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Impulsive gadget purchases. Think carefully about whether a new tech
gadget actually solves a problem you have before buying it.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Tech scares me, So I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Furniture that is not practical for your lifestyle, choose furniture
that is comfortable, functional, and fits your space.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Well, you said buy what I could afford.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, I mean I think that's relative to like what
you can get. Yeah. I used to spend a lot
of time at antique stores and second hand type shops.
When I lived in North Carolina, they had a ton
of those in southern Pines and little towns around there.
So I would go drive around and I would end
up buying stuff that I didn't really need because I'd
(24:48):
be like, this is such a good deal on this
table from obviously, or you're buying things that are just
for the ascetic look of something and then you're like,
I don't want to lay on this cow yeah, like
it's not comfortable. And then lastly, high maintenance beauty products
you don't understand. Focus on skincare and makeup that suits
(25:08):
your needs and is easy to use.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
What would that mean?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Like that you don't understand, Like like for me, foundation.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Base You know our foundation? Ever? I guess if you're.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Evidence, I do, but I tried to buy some recently
and I don't even know what I was buying. You know,
what I want to look into is that I'm getting
targeted ads for Jon's Road or it's Bobby Brown's OH
line for mature skin.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
First of all, I love that term. You've used it before.
I've never heard of that. Is that foundation or is
it just like skincare?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
It is Jones Road Beauty clean no makeup makeup. Oh ooh,
I like that. I'm wearing clean no makeup makeup. It's
actually makeup, but it looks like no makeup free from
Sulfate's paar Bins and Fleerletts with I don't know what
I see her ads. Maybe they pop up in my
(26:02):
feed more because I'm older than you, cat, But just wait.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I don't have mature skin.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You'll get there. But it looks so good like it
looks creamy and dewy.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That's what I use. That Elta MD tinted sunscreen. That's
what I use most days, unless I'm going to something
special for foundation, and then I just put like a
bronzing stick and a blush on top of it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
But I may give this Jones Road Beauty.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Give it a try, and then you can give us
a review.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I may give it a try, it says, I went
to their instagram. This is beauty reinvented, founded by Bobby Brown.
But then a lot of stuff you see online it
looks good on other people, and then you get it
and you put it on and you're like.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
What, Well, that's why I thank god mall still exists.
You can go to the mall and you can have
them test it on your skin. I used to love
going to the mall to like department stores and testing
makeup and they'll do it for free.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Do you ever, when you have an event go to
the mall to get your makeup done?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Why have I not thought about that as an adult?
I did it all the time as a kid.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I to do is buy like an eyeshadow.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, we would always go to Mac that we would
have your makeup done at Mac and you would just
have to spend forty dollars, which is literally like a lipstick.
Why have I not thought about that?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I don't know. Well, now here you go, We'll go
to Bobby Brown and have them do it. I know,
but I don't know if she's still involved, Like I
wonder if she's sold because now she's doing this.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Oh, this is a whole different brand.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It's called Jones Road.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I thought it was like stopid. I thought it was
like a line at Bobby Brown, like, oh, have you
seen our Jones Road line? So she just made another
makeup brand with another name. Is she Jones Road?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
She is here we go, let's give people a little
lesson here, Yes, Bobby Brown sold her cosmetics brand to
es Day Lauder in nineteen ninety five. Then she left
the company in twenty sixteen, so she was still a
part of it until then. Oh wowsers. So she launched
Bobby Brown the brand in nineteen ninety one. Then Esday
lad bought it for seventy four point five million dollars.
(28:05):
She stayed on as the chief creative officer. Imagine that
someone just bought your company for seventy four million dollars
and you still work.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, I don't get those people's work ethic is different
than mine. I'm like most we never have to work again,
and I'm thirty three.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
She left the company twenty sixteen and returned to being
a makeup artist and entrepreneur. In twenty twenty, she launched
Jones Road Beauty, a clean beauty brand okay, so totally different,
which has gone viral on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So you probably can't go to them all and test
this out then, because they probably don't have a kiosk.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
So get this. She signed a twenty five year non
compete agreement when she sold to Essay Lauder, and her
non compete ended in October of twenty twenty. And then
in twenty twenty, she launched No Jones Road.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Wow, so she's been waiting to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
The more you know, case this ever comes up anywhere, Wait,
you're gonna have the information.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Can you look up where you can buy that, like
other than just online? Can you buy that Sephora because
they could do your makeup.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
They could Alta and Sephora.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
It says, okay, done, Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
The more you know, the more you know. All right, Kat,
where can people find you?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
On Instagram? At Kat van Buren.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And I am at Radio Amy and I hope whatever
you're having for dinner tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
It's the dinner you need to have.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
The dinner you need to have, because that's what I'm doing.
And if my kids say anything and be like, this
is the dinner you need to have, kids, Kat would
have loved this dinner as a kid.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Do you know what you're cooking tonight?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I think we're making those pepper nacho things that just
ends up being peppers and ground meat and cheese and chips.
It's the easiest meal to make ever. It takes five
minutes away.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Like a bell pepper.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We get those mini peppers and we slice them and
then we bake them a little bit and then we
put ground meat and black beans. And sorry, little cow,
you have to try that out there.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Sorry, little pepper. Did you know plants can cry?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'm sorry, little avocado. I'm just smushing you all up.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, you like that. It's a massage. Oh I wish
someone would like an avocado. I have to say, smash
that smash are you read?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Wait? What? Are you ready for your massage?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Little avocado? It's like, yeah, would you like me take
your coat? Let me see if you're ready for your massage.
And you have to like see if it's squishy enough,
because you have to test the avocado before you open it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Well, and if it's really hard and you just have
to use it anyway, you can just be like, wow,
you just got a lot of knots in your neck.
You haven't been stretching.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Really, you're gonna have to work hard to mush you down. See, guys,
it's not that difficult once you start. It may feel
weird at first, but who cares.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
And then you won't be able to stop.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And this is the way you want to live life.
You don't want to live life boring. You don't want
to be plain vanilla to be frenchman out. We've gone
over this.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And then when people walk into your house, like who
are you talking to? And they're gonna be like, my avocados,
who are you talking to?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Do you want to talk to my avocado? Would you
like to come give it a massage? I could use
some help because I get to go over here and
remove some coats from my garlic. May take your coat smash.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
And later I'm taking my teeth to the car wash.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
All right, dinners for a time to go to the
car I think could you imagine if people come over
and we're just having like all these conversations that like
don't make it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Or like you start dating somebody new and you sleep
over their house the first time and you're like, oh,
it's time to go to the carwash, and it's closed
and you're like, no, it's.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Not I don't know if that person would keep dating you.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Wait, you gotta try that out.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You gotta like hook people before you No, they should
love you for who you are. Yeah, that's true. Just
go ahead and show them the crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Before my it's not crazy, it's whimsical.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's whimsical. So have the day. You need to have
have the dinner you need to have, and don't forget
show your whimsy.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Amen, Bye, bye,
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