October 15, 2024 • 27 mins
Amy reminisces about the time her dad told her he had an affair & Kat gets vulnerable about why she always would sleep with her glasses on as a kid. Today’s quote: “Never let your storm get your kids wet.” is not Kat’s favorite at all, but Amy likes it and appreciates the sentiment. Apparently, there are 7 questions (listed below) you should ask your kids before it’s too late. As Amy goes over them with Kat….turns out they are also good questions to ask yourself or your friends!
- What do you think about a lot?
- What makes you happiest?
- How do you feel around me most of the time?
- Is there anything about the world or people you want to understand?
- What’s your favorite memory with our family?
- Is there anything you are worried or stressed about?
- Is there anything you want to learn together?
Bonus Quote:
“I love getting cute little good morning texts like “your order has shipped” - meme
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and today's quote is unknown. I've got a
serious one, and then I've decided anytime we have a
serious one, I'm also gonna have kind of a funny one,
so that way we're not all like serious.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Okay, you made me nervous when you said serious. You
got like a little like somber looking. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I just like it, especially as a mom, But then
also we're all somebody's daughter or son, so like it
could relate to you if you think about your parents
and how they handle things, okay, or how you want
to handle things. And also while it's talking about kids,
when I read the quote, you could also keep in
mind like your partner, your roommate, your coworker, fill in
(00:44):
the blank. But it's never let your storm get your
kids wet. Have we talked about this one before?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Why are you laughing? This is serious?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Never like your storm get your kids wet.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I don't like it, Oh, I liked it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm it could be like you can be having the
worst thing going on ever, but you don't need to
like bin it down on your children.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Get kids.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But I mean I think that like my parents. When
I really thought about this, reason why I probably was
a little bit more serious to me is kind of
wish they would just like have sprinkled a little bit
on me.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You know, I wanted them to get you a little wet.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
They didn't need to get me totally wet with what
they had going on, But they just like never talked
about it. It's like things were brushed under the rug
or sort of ignored. Like I never saw my mom
cry when my dad left. I thought he was going
on a business trip.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Like.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
There was just no real conversations until like a year later,
and he sat me down in my bedroom and said,
do you know what an affair is? And I was like,
I'm nine, So I.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Guess that he didn't brush into the rug. But I think, like, so.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
They sprinkled you a little bit with that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's only because I saw a picture of his thin
person and in his wallet.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And she stop it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh swear, I swear, like, dad, can I have five dollars?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And they know that.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Here's what happened. I had a softball tournament in slide El, Louisiana,
and for whatever reason, And I say that with love
towards my dad, because he was a good person in
certain areas. He really was, but he wasn't very involved
in my life. So the fact that he drove me
to Slide del Louisiana for my softball tournament, like, I
don't know, and your mom didn't go. No, my mom
(02:32):
didn't go. But my dad, I don't remember him being
out a lot because he was very busy and working
all the time. And so he took me, and I
remember he left his wallet in the truck and we
were at the hotel and he's like, go down and
grab my wallet. And I grabbed the wallet and it
fell open and then fell open. Well, yeah it fell
it probably did. I wasn't going through my dad's wallet.
(02:53):
I was not looking for this. But back in the day,
this is the early nineties, late eighties, early nineties, there's
the yeah a little picture, yeah, school picture in there. Okay,
it's like my sister's school picture, my school picture, a
picture of her in her launderie, or.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Like nighty.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
That neglige a little lace silk number. Oh my god,
what did you do with you? Like, dad, who's that?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I didn't say anything, but.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I think anybody you saw it, not even your sister.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, I think he kind of maybe put it together
or something because I was weird. And then maybe I
asked some sort of question, but not about the picture,
but maybe just about her, because I knew who she
was because she had baby sat us at some point.
She wallet well, no, she worked for him, but then
one night she had taken care of us at some point.
(03:44):
But I knew who she was, so I was actually weird.
So I think he decided to take me to dinner
and then.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Without your sister. So he told y'all separately.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I guess, so would you.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I didn't either.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I need to ask her what her experience was with that,
because I know it was just me in my room
after dinner. I was sitting on my bed, and I
think he like sat on the floor and it's.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Like, so I saw you dropped my wallet. No, no,
I went through it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, maybe he did see that out the window, but
he didn't never bring that up. But he did say,
do you know what an affair is?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And you and I don't affair.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I know what affair? I don't know. If I did,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I would have thought he was saying, like the county fair,
do you know what an affair?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Is yeah, like an affair, like a party like it?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's a fair afair.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I know. But if at nine I would have been like, yeah,
the rides and the cotton candy and the fish, we're.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Gonna go to the fair? Are you going to an affair?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So anyways, my mom was going through all that and
I never saw her like once cry. But gosh, what
were we talking about?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You wish your parents got you a little wet.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Maybe just like a little bit like let me see
a little bit of emotion.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I feel like there's a different metaphor we can use
that's more like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I know it doesn't feel palatable, time appropriate with all
the storm situations.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Having that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh well, it just popped into my head, so I
thought I should say it because I don't want to
be insensitive. But I think of days that I'm going
through a lot and what I could bring down on
to my kids. And I know there's times where I've
had a lot going on and I've sort of exploded,
but I have the awareness and I go to them
and I acknowledge how I behaved or what I did,
and I ask for forgiveness and then hopefully what I see,
(05:31):
and that is I'm like, wow, good thing I did that,
because then I was able to model what it looks
like to own what you've done, and they need that example.
It's a good thing I lost it. I actually did
them a favor.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I'm going to do that more often.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, so you don't like that quote, huh.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I like the message behind the quote.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
That quote, I just like, never let your storm get
your kids wet, Like, there's so many better ways we
could write that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Do it now.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I can't write.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I can't do it. But if you give me a day,
i'll come back.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know what, next week, I'll come back with like
five different versions of that and we can vote on them.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What if it's like, never let your kids mop up
your mess.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Doesn't mean the same thing, never.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Let your kids flush your toilets?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
What could it mean? I'm trying to think of something.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Help me, Well, we never let your kids pee in
the shower, never let your you'reine, why are you going that?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Because I started thinking about toilet I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Thinking like burnt toast, like never let your kids get
the toast out of the oven without a manon.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Okay, I don't know. That's where my mind's going like
we can find something better.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Pretty true. Never let your storm get your kids wet.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I'm not good on the spot.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Okay, I'll give you the funny one now. Even though,
so this is a meme that I saw. I love
getting cute little good morning texts, like your order has shipped.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Because you do like good morning texts.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I love good morning texts.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Your order is out for delivery is the best text. Yeah,
I got one of those today. Or your order has arrived,
that's a better text.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah. And then but sometimes I go to my friend,
I see it, it's not there. But then I go
around it all my neighbors porches.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Where do you get.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Your mail delivered to the wrong house?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
No, but it has ended up on my neighbor's porch before.
That's why your house is pretty straightforward.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Our mail gets lost all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, your house is confusing.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's really frustrating. I had to start delivering stuff to
other people's houses and then they get tired of that,
and I think I'll just have to move.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I think you didn't move over here. Cat and I
text each other all the time, Like the other day,
Cat wasn't failing maund and she's like, if you were
my neighbor, you could bring me tea, and then a
few hours later I'd be like, if you're my neighbor,
I bring you tea, but then we could watch something together.
And then after she was feeling better, I was like,
if you're my neighbor, you could just come over and
we could walk.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Or like, you could come over and I can tell
you the story in person. You could like cook dinner
every night together.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I want to live on one of those compounds with
all your friends where everybody's sort of close.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But far have you heard about the people who I
don't know if I made the story up in my head,
but I swear there was a story where, like somebody
bought a nursing home.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
For all of their friends for when they got older.
That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I guess it's sad because we're in a nursing home,
but like an assisted living maybe that's better a retirement community,
but it's all my friends.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Retirement community is better. My dad lived an assistant living
in nursing home vibes, But okay, I mean they could
live on their own basically, but you loved nurse.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And an assistance. But I like astant living because like
you get the assistant you can.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I think it a retirement community you can have the
option for assistance, but you also have a bowling alley
in a movie theater what and maybe pickleball and a
golf course.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, I don't know that I'll be playing pickleball when
I need Well how old are well actually a retirement community?
Do you move to a retirement community when you're like
sixty you can?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That seems I still feel like I'm definitely gonna be
working in sixty light though, I mean I guess I
like I'm need to be.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't know unless hinge works out, and not that
I would keep working, but it just definitely helps having
a partner. So she goes like, I think I want
to go to college in Japan, and I'm like, okay,
how's your hostessing job going?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
She why Japan?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
She's never even been. She's just obsessed with Asian culture.
It started with anime and then just her fascination moved
into Yes, the food. She likes to go to the
international market and she always ends up with Japanese type
goodies and she really just wants to go. She thinks
that that's where she's supposed to be, like she was
born to be in Japan. That's so far away even
(09:51):
though she's never been.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Does she know how far the flight is? Yes? Isn't
it like twenty three hours? Very far?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Plane tickets are very expensive. She's like, maybe I can
get an internship somewhere in Japan.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You know I have a friend that does events in Japan. Well,
kind she works for a car company. She oh, Nissan.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why. I was like trying
to keep that a secret.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, my friend is a lawyer for Nissan, and she
just got back from Japan not too long ago. She
actually brought Sashira a little gift because she knows about
Sashia's obsession. It's so fun because she actually happens to
be my sister's bff from high school, and she lives
around the corner from us now because Nissan's got office
is here, so she's still in my life and so
(10:34):
I've known her since I was probably whenever my dad
sat me down in my.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Room asked if you wanted to go to the fair?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, So it's fun to now have her in my
life and her son. It's about Stashira's age, so they
that's cool. I hung out. I wish they would date,
but I think he has a girlfriend. And then I'm like, well.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Well maybe you don't want them to date because if
it doesn't end up, well, didn be awkward.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I have a list of seven things ask your
kids before it's too late. I have a list of
seven things to ask your kids before it's too late.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Okay, what do you mean too late?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Before they move to Japan or something else? And I
think that this is four kids. But you could also
use them in relationships, like you could use them with
Patrick and I'll put them in the show notes. That
way you can have them because I think they're good
to have on hand, especially if you have car rides
coming up, Like it's just extra stuff to have in
your pocket. Besides, how a school today? Okay, it doesn't
(11:45):
really go anywhere. Sashira gives me the same answer every day.
Have a school today? Exhausting?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So then I'm gonna ask for something a little lighter,
like like, what's something you think about a lot? I guess, like,
what's your Roman empire? Is that yours? I think about
death all the time in what way?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Like I don't know we're all going to die. How
are we going to die? It's gonna make me die.
I feel like that's pretty normal.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You sound like that guy from my Hinge dating profile.
But he did one of those voice things and he
said that when he's at a red light, he'll just
start thinking about what if a zombie apocalypse happens right now?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Like what, I've never once thought about that?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But you think about death?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, But also I feel like I think about death
more often because I'm now an adult and I have
an adult like I have older parents, and that's why
I start thinking about it. And I go down that
rabbit trail and it's like a weird place to be
in because I thought I was going to be like
twenty five forever and things are changing.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What makes you happiest?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
You asking me?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Or this is the next question Seven things to ask
your kids before it's too late, or your friends, or
your partner or a random.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Person walking down the street. So what do you think
about a lot the next time you go playing to Japan?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
What makes you happiest? I know, I know I can
answer for you. Grab the gold No having something to
look forward to on your calendar.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Oh that's my answer. Yeah, that makes.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You very very happy.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, what's yours.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Solitude that's different than isolation?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Okay, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I like being with people, but I like my recovery time.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, that's what makes you happiest.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I can see that it's something you like, but you
rather you like your recovery time more than the actual
things that you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Okay, no, okay, I take it back. I guess maybe
because I just had a happy moment of solitude this
last weekend because my house is finally coming together and
I was alone. I feel like there's just been workers
in my house for a while, or there's always a
lot going on. I love having my kids here. I
love having my kids have friends over. I love having
(13:53):
people over. Don't get me wrong, but I think now
that I finally have a couch and a TV hung
in my living room and my house is starting to
feel like a home because I moved a few months
ago and it's been in disarray. I was laying there alone,
watching TV by myself, and I was happy. So I
don't know that that's my happiest like all the time
(14:15):
all around, but currently maybe that's it might no, no,
but my home has really been empty if you think
about it, so it feels good. How do you feel
around me most of the time?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Why would you ask your kids that Whore's this list.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
From at homeschool underschool.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So how do you feel around me most of the time?
I don't like that you don't How do you feel
about me most of the time?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
How do you feel around me?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Because if like they're able to really check in and
be like I feel comfortable, or I feel anxious or
I feel yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I guess it depends on how and when you're asking
that question.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I feel light or do I feel stressed? I do
think my kids their age fourteen and seventeen and where
they are now in their maturity level, I feel like
they could answer me directly like I feel stressed, yeah,
I feel like you stress me out, or I feel
really good around you. But I do think they could
pinpoint it, and it may vary, so that could be
(15:16):
a question you ask. But I mean it's I think
his parents is good to know or his friends, like,
how do you feel around me most of the time?
Is it like, am I an energy vampire? Or am
I just giving you life?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
You're sucking everything out of this room? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Or do you want to be around me more because
I just recharge you.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Well, I now want to leave because I know you
want your solid ude.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay, that's not what I know.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I'm just kidding. What's the next one?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
What's your favorite memory with our family? That would obviously
be a good one for the kids or family for
our friendship. One of my favorite memories from our friendship
is when we went to New York and we went
to your family's Italian restaurant and we ordered all that
yummy food and I wore pink pants.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Oh you did wear pink pants, and.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
The food was so good, and it just was fun
being in New York with you.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I like that one.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Is there anything about the world or people that you
want to understand?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I like that one question.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It could be big, but still it's okay to have
big conversations at times, especially with your kids. What do
you want to understand why grown men can't communicate?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I was gonna say how ships float?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But okay, oh, how airplanes get up? I mean, I
know it's physics, but whenever i'm that's really airplanes flying,
I'm like what.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
The cruise ships freak me out, like how it's so heavy?
But also the men in communication. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But radio.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I think of that when I'm at work all the time, like,
how is this working? How are people listening to us
in their car TV? How does it work? How does
it figure it out? I know, I know have you
watched Ventors obviously, but why does it work Inventors? Yes,
it's all information that has piggybacked off of other information
and trial and error and all the tests. And then
(17:00):
Thomas Ebison's like, I'll let there be light.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Do you know who flew the first plane?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
They're right brothers Okay from Kitty Hawk.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
She just read a book about this episode.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I grew up going to Matter Banks, and so we
would go to where they flew the first plane.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I forgot vacation there in the summer.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
It was so luxurious.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'll never forget that episode. When you're like we used
the summer there.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
We would first of all go for a week and
we had to drive fourteen hours in a car with
four kids screaming, and I probably was like kicking my sister.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
We had like a TV strap to the did you
ever do that on road trips? Your parents would like strap.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Like the they would strap a TV to the like
center console of the front and the VHS rewinder would
it work? So my mom had to rewind all of
the VHS tapes with her finger. And then one time
we stopped at a gas station, my brother throughout my favorite.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Movie Sweetenn't have to watch it again?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Oh God, Spice World, Oh might throw that's a that's
a classic. And by too young, I mean I'm older
than you, So I don't know that we would have
thought of that option when I was that tablets. You
know where I used to summer Birmingham, Alabama.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Orange Beach.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Wait, that's not Birmingham's orange. Birmingham's the city, Alabama's the state.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Wait what did you do in Birmingham?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, my grandma lived there, my aunt, my uncle, and
my grandma was the manager of a bowling alley, so
we'd go to the bowling alley.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Oh you summered at the bowling alley.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Hmm, that's nice, unlimited soda from the soda fountain, Girl,
cheese candy, that's pretty sweet. Grandma playing poker in the
back smoking cigs. Actually, not poker bridge.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
I say bridge, Grandma's play bridge.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Is there anything you are worried or stressed about. My
daughter would be able to answer that pretty quickly. My
son not so much.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
He's like I love Fife is great.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Homework stresses him out sometimes, but other than that, he's
just breathing a really good phase, which is answer to
prayer quite honestly. Last and final question to ask your
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kid before it's too late.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I don't like the before it's too late, like what's
going to happen?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Is there anything you want to learn to get there?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's a sweet question, like do you want to learn
pottery together? Or do you want to learn about how
boat art?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So watch a documentary?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Speaking of have you watched any good documentaries lately?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I watched The Monsters. I know that's a scripted, acted
thing about the Meninda's brothers. But then last Monday, the
documentary part came out, like the.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Oh, okay, should I watch that first and then watch
the other one?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't think it matters.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Okay, Well, I watched too. I watched The Hope Solo
untold on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh watch it?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I have so many questions and I want to
hear from those other soccer players because I don't think
we're getting the full picture.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
That was crazy. The fact that they didn't have.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Health insurance on the women's national soccer team. I can't
get over it. And then I watched Love on the Run.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Okay, that keeps popping up and I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So what It's actually kind of tragic, but it is
crazy and I remember it happening, which is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So it's about the woman that worked at the jail
that escaped with a prisoner.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yes, okay, she was like the head person and fell
in love with this guy. I'm not gonna like the
she was like one of the head people.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
She wasn't the warden she might have been.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
No, she was just a she was a tiptop person
because people were talking about she sounds tipped and she
had a lot of say like she could just be like, hey,
bring me that inmate to get a test, put them
in the car, and they left, never came back.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's crazy. I haven't watched that one, but I will.
So she has been very into true crime. She watches
these people on YouTube, but that it's sort of like
a podcast, but they're just filmed themselves talking into the
camera about all these details from real life crime are going.
But then they'll show clips of from the news and
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you get different details. But it's it's sort of like
a Cliff's Notes version. It's not long drawn out. She
likes them for the pretty quick. Like some of these podcasts,
you could probably listen to an entire season on what
happened to this true crime case. I could probably be
like nine episodes long where she'll watch some you know,
fifteen minute girl on YouTube breaking it all down, and
(21:43):
I mean, she's kind of obsessed.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
With that would give me Nightmarries true crime if I
was that age watching a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I'm glad that I was oblivious to a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I was always already afraid I was going to get kidnapped,
and I just had the news. So you don't want
to check on her ask her what she's afraid of.
I mean, yeah, Also, that's a normal you're laughing, but
that's a normal fear to be kidnapped.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm not laughing like that's that does seem very scary.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I don't think I'm gonna get kidnapped now. I meant
as a kid, I was afraid I was gonna get kidnapped.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I know, I feel bad that you felt that way
like I never did, not once. No, our house was
always unlocked.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
No, yes, I had to have my parents check and
they had to like show me that the alarm was on,
that the doors were locked.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Most of the time.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I slept with my sister and I think she really
didn't like it. And I slept with my glasses on.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Okay, I was really think you were ready.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, because if I got kidnapped, I didn't have my glasses,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Be able to see.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Okay, did you have glasses as a kid, You don't
know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
But if it was thundering and lightning, I would take
them off because I was afraid I was gonnat electrocuted.
So I had to pick I wanted to be able
to see or want to be electrocuted.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I had any fears as a child.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Oh, come on, Other than like heights, were you even
afraid of heights?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Snakes, spiders?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Well, maybe you shut yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Maybe my dad leaving, okay, maybe you shut your emotions.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Down seeing his girlfriend with a nightie.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
You have no fears. You saw laundry in your dad's wallet.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
My therapist says, she thinks that I had to figure
a lot out on my own. Okay, so I was
very busy trying to figure things out.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, maybe there wasn't time for you to be afraid.
And also because you did so much stuff on your own,
you felt like you could conquer thing.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's an interesting place to be though, because what I
do believe to be the truth of my experience is
I had good parents.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I did that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Both can be true, yes, both, and but she says,
I get really fixated on the fact that they were
really good parents and good people, and that I don't allow.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
The other part.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And I'm not even saying anything. That they were doing
the best that they could with what they had. And
I do think that they were an improvement from their parents.
That's what you can hope, right for all of us,
that each generation gets a little bit healthier. But I
think my brain spent a lot of time trying to
figure stuff out.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
And have you watched The Greeny Cattle.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
For other memories The Glass Cat and or read it?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, it's a really good book and it was turned
into a movie, and I recently watched it for the
second time, Woody Heroeson's in it. You know, I'm on
a Woody Herolson kick. I think you would resonate with this.
I don't think your dad is like this dad, but
most people would probably look at him and be like
that guy was not a great father. But she looks
at him and she's like, my dad was a very
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troubled man, but also he created such a I don't
know how she actually said this, but like a colorful
life where we learned so many things and I wouldn't
trade it for the world. And he was an alcoholic,
they were homeless and like squatting a lot of the time,
a lot of trauma for her, but also the core
of who he was was good and loving, and it's
(25:06):
a really good picture of how both can be.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
True and how complex that really is. Yeah, oh, I cried, like,
you gotta watch that movie.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Or maybe I'll read the book that Meninda's brother's thing.
I'm just gonna tell your real thought that I had,
which I know my kids love me. This is all
and I'm not Sashira walks in I'm watching it, and
she goes, oh, were you watching it about those guys
that murdered their parents and I'm like, yeah, but like,
don't get any ideas.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
That's where you asked them the question how do you
feel when you're around me?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Right? And I kind of said that to her. I'm like, oh,
I'm going to turn this off, like no, I don't
want you watching this like not. She's like, well, I've
heard about it. I know what happens. And I said, okay,
ideas and she said, well, you don't abuse me and
if you know some of the story, but then we don't.
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I don't know how true. I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I don't worry. I have no plan, right, like you
take care of.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Me a ride, which I know the dynamics of that
whole family and relationship. I've certainly never experienced anything like it.
If all of what they say is true, which is
debatable allegedly what they say happened, but I don't know.
It's just the thought that I had. It's just well,
when you watch it, you'll know. And I'm like, I
hope nobody want Do people watch these things and.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Get idea ideas? I mean there's copycat yeah, see crimes.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's when it's like maybe TV should have never been invented.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Well, I guess if with the radio was invented, we
could hear stories that way too.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
All right, hope y'all are having the day that you
need to have a cat. Where can people find.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You on Instagram at kat van Buren and at Unique
Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And I'm at Radio Amy And until next time.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Don't let your storm get your kids with or just
let it sprinkle them.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Don't let your ice melt on you.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Don't let your condensation get on your kids. This nice stand.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Don't let your sweat drip on you.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Go back to your urine ones.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Don't feed your kids your burnt toast.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Is that that's good?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Did?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
You finally get it?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I think that's good. Don't feed your kids your burnt toast.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Don't feed your kids your meat.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Don't give your kids the nail. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Okay, Bye,
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and today's quote is unknown. I've got a
serious one, and then I've decided anytime we have a
serious one, I'm also gonna have kind of a funny one,
so that way we're not all like serious.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Okay, you made me nervous when you said serious. You
got like a little like somber looking. Well.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I just like it, especially as a mom, But then
also we're all somebody's daughter or son, so like it
could relate to you if you think about your parents
and how they handle things, okay, or how you want
to handle things. And also while it's talking about kids,
when I read the quote, you could also keep in
mind like your partner, your roommate, your coworker, fill in
(00:44):
the blank. But it's never let your storm get your
kids wet. Have we talked about this one before?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Why are you laughing? This is serious?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Never like your storm get your kids wet.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I don't like it, Oh, I liked it.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I'm it could be like you can be having the
worst thing going on ever, but you don't need to
like bin it down on your children.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Get kids.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But I mean I think that like my parents. When
I really thought about this, reason why I probably was
a little bit more serious to me is kind of
wish they would just like have sprinkled a little bit
on me.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You know, I wanted them to get you a little wet.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
They didn't need to get me totally wet with what
they had going on, But they just like never talked
about it. It's like things were brushed under the rug
or sort of ignored. Like I never saw my mom
cry when my dad left. I thought he was going
on a business trip.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Like.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
There was just no real conversations until like a year later,
and he sat me down in my bedroom and said,
do you know what an affair is? And I was like,
I'm nine, So I.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Guess that he didn't brush into the rug. But I think, like, so.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
They sprinkled you a little bit with that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's only because I saw a picture of his thin
person and in his wallet.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And she stop it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh swear, I swear, like, dad, can I have five dollars?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And they know that.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Here's what happened. I had a softball tournament in slide El, Louisiana,
and for whatever reason, And I say that with love
towards my dad, because he was a good person in
certain areas. He really was, but he wasn't very involved
in my life. So the fact that he drove me
to Slide del Louisiana for my softball tournament, like, I
don't know, and your mom didn't go. No, my mom
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didn't go. But my dad, I don't remember him being
out a lot because he was very busy and working
all the time. And so he took me, and I
remember he left his wallet in the truck and we
were at the hotel and he's like, go down and
grab my wallet. And I grabbed the wallet and it
fell open and then fell open. Well, yeah it fell
it probably did. I wasn't going through my dad's wallet.
(02:53):
I was not looking for this. But back in the day,
this is the early nineties, late eighties, early nineties, there's
the yeah a little picture, yeah, school picture in there. Okay,
it's like my sister's school picture, my school picture, a
picture of her in her launderie, or.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Like nighty.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
That neglige a little lace silk number. Oh my god,
what did you do with you? Like, dad, who's that?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I didn't say anything, but.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I think anybody you saw it, not even your sister.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, I think he kind of maybe put it together
or something because I was weird. And then maybe I
asked some sort of question, but not about the picture,
but maybe just about her, because I knew who she
was because she had baby sat us at some point.
She wallet well, no, she worked for him, but then
one night she had taken care of us at some point.
(03:44):
But I knew who she was, so I was actually weird.
So I think he decided to take me to dinner
and then.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Without your sister. So he told y'all separately.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I guess, so would you.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I didn't either.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I need to ask her what her experience was with that,
because I know it was just me in my room
after dinner. I was sitting on my bed, and I
think he like sat on the floor and it's.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Like, so I saw you dropped my wallet. No, no,
I went through it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, maybe he did see that out the window, but
he didn't never bring that up. But he did say,
do you know what an affair is?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And you and I don't affair.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I know what affair? I don't know. If I did,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I would have thought he was saying, like the county fair,
do you know what an affair?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Is yeah, like an affair, like a party like it?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's a fair afair.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I know. But if at nine I would have been like, yeah,
the rides and the cotton candy and the fish, we're.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Gonna go to the fair? Are you going to an affair?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So anyways, my mom was going through all that and
I never saw her like once cry. But gosh, what
were we talking about?
Speaker 4 (04:54):
You wish your parents got you a little wet.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Maybe just like a little bit like let me see
a little bit of emotion.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I feel like there's a different metaphor we can use
that's more like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I know it doesn't feel palatable, time appropriate with all
the storm situations.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Having that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh well, it just popped into my head, so I
thought I should say it because I don't want to
be insensitive. But I think of days that I'm going
through a lot and what I could bring down on
to my kids. And I know there's times where I've
had a lot going on and I've sort of exploded,
but I have the awareness and I go to them
and I acknowledge how I behaved or what I did,
and I ask for forgiveness and then hopefully what I see,
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and that is I'm like, wow, good thing I did that,
because then I was able to model what it looks
like to own what you've done, and they need that example.
It's a good thing I lost it. I actually did
them a favor.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I'm going to do that more often.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, so you don't like that quote, huh.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I like the message behind the quote.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
That quote, I just like, never let your storm get
your kids wet, Like, there's so many better ways we
could write that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Do it now.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I can't write.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I can't do it. But if you give me a day,
i'll come back.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
You know what, next week, I'll come back with like
five different versions of that and we can vote on them.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What if it's like, never let your kids mop up
your mess.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Doesn't mean the same thing, never.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Let your kids flush your toilets?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
What could it mean? I'm trying to think of something.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Help me, Well, we never let your kids pee in
the shower, never let your you'reine, why are you going that?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Because I started thinking about toilet I'm.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Thinking like burnt toast, like never let your kids get
the toast out of the oven without a manon.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Okay, I don't know. That's where my mind's going like
we can find something better.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Pretty true. Never let your storm get your kids wet.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I'm not good on the spot.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Okay, I'll give you the funny one now. Even though,
so this is a meme that I saw. I love
getting cute little good morning texts, like your order has shipped.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Because you do like good morning texts.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I love good morning texts.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Your order is out for delivery is the best text. Yeah,
I got one of those today. Or your order has arrived,
that's a better text.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah. And then but sometimes I go to my friend,
I see it, it's not there. But then I go
around it all my neighbors porches.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Where do you get.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Your mail delivered to the wrong house?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
No, but it has ended up on my neighbor's porch before.
That's why your house is pretty straightforward.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Our mail gets lost all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, your house is confusing.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's really frustrating. I had to start delivering stuff to
other people's houses and then they get tired of that,
and I think I'll just have to move.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I think you didn't move over here. Cat and I
text each other all the time, Like the other day,
Cat wasn't failing maund and she's like, if you were
my neighbor, you could bring me tea, and then a
few hours later I'd be like, if you're my neighbor,
I bring you tea, but then we could watch something together.
And then after she was feeling better, I was like,
if you're my neighbor, you could just come over and
we could walk.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Or like, you could come over and I can tell
you the story in person. You could like cook dinner
every night together.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I want to live on one of those compounds with
all your friends where everybody's sort of close.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But far have you heard about the people who I
don't know if I made the story up in my head,
but I swear there was a story where, like somebody
bought a nursing home.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
For all of their friends for when they got older.
That's what I want.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I guess it's sad because we're in a nursing home,
but like an assisted living maybe that's better a retirement community,
but it's all my friends.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Retirement community is better. My dad lived an assistant living
in nursing home vibes, But okay, I mean they could
live on their own basically, but you loved nurse.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And an assistance. But I like astant living because like
you get the assistant you can.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I think it a retirement community you can have the
option for assistance, but you also have a bowling alley
in a movie theater what and maybe pickleball and a
golf course.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, I don't know that I'll be playing pickleball when
I need Well how old are well actually a retirement community?
Do you move to a retirement community when you're like
sixty you can?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
That seems I still feel like I'm definitely gonna be
working in sixty light though, I mean I guess I
like I'm need to be.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't know unless hinge works out, and not that
I would keep working, but it just definitely helps having
a partner. So she goes like, I think I want
to go to college in Japan, and I'm like, okay,
how's your hostessing job going?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
She why Japan?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
She's never even been. She's just obsessed with Asian culture.
It started with anime and then just her fascination moved
into Yes, the food. She likes to go to the
international market and she always ends up with Japanese type
goodies and she really just wants to go. She thinks
that that's where she's supposed to be, like she was
born to be in Japan. That's so far away even
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though she's never been.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Does she know how far the flight is? Yes? Isn't
it like twenty three hours? Very far?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Plane tickets are very expensive. She's like, maybe I can
get an internship somewhere in Japan.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You know I have a friend that does events in Japan. Well,
kind she works for a car company. She oh, Nissan.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know why. I was like trying
to keep that a secret.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Well, my friend is a lawyer for Nissan, and she
just got back from Japan not too long ago. She
actually brought Sashira a little gift because she knows about
Sashia's obsession. It's so fun because she actually happens to
be my sister's bff from high school, and she lives
around the corner from us now because Nissan's got office
is here, so she's still in my life and so
(10:34):
I've known her since I was probably whenever my dad
sat me down in my.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Room asked if you wanted to go to the fair?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, So it's fun to now have her in my
life and her son. It's about Stashira's age, so they
that's cool. I hung out. I wish they would date,
but I think he has a girlfriend. And then I'm like, well.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Well maybe you don't want them to date because if
it doesn't end up, well, didn be awkward.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I have a list of seven things ask your
kids before it's too late. I have a list of
seven things to ask your kids before it's too late.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Okay, what do you mean too late?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Before they move to Japan or something else? And I
think that this is four kids. But you could also
use them in relationships, like you could use them with
Patrick and I'll put them in the show notes. That
way you can have them because I think they're good
to have on hand, especially if you have car rides
coming up, Like it's just extra stuff to have in
your pocket. Besides, how a school today? Okay, it doesn't
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really go anywhere. Sashira gives me the same answer every day.
Have a school today? Exhausting?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
So then I'm gonna ask for something a little lighter,
like like, what's something you think about a lot? I guess, like,
what's your Roman empire? Is that yours? I think about
death all the time in what way?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Like I don't know we're all going to die. How
are we going to die? It's gonna make me die.
I feel like that's pretty normal.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You sound like that guy from my Hinge dating profile.
But he did one of those voice things and he
said that when he's at a red light, he'll just
start thinking about what if a zombie apocalypse happens right now?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Like what, I've never once thought about that?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But you think about death?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, But also I feel like I think about death
more often because I'm now an adult and I have
an adult like I have older parents, and that's why
I start thinking about it. And I go down that
rabbit trail and it's like a weird place to be
in because I thought I was going to be like
twenty five forever and things are changing.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What makes you happiest?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
You asking me?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Or this is the next question Seven things to ask
your kids before it's too late, or your friends, or
your partner or a random.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Person walking down the street. So what do you think
about a lot the next time you go playing to Japan?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
What makes you happiest? I know, I know I can
answer for you. Grab the gold No having something to
look forward to on your calendar.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Oh that's my answer. Yeah, that makes.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You very very happy.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, what's yours.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Solitude that's different than isolation?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Okay, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I like being with people, but I like my recovery time.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, that's what makes you happiest.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I can see that it's something you like, but you
rather you like your recovery time more than the actual
things that you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Okay, no, okay, I take it back. I guess maybe
because I just had a happy moment of solitude this
last weekend because my house is finally coming together and
I was alone. I feel like there's just been workers
in my house for a while, or there's always a
lot going on. I love having my kids here. I
love having my kids have friends over. I love having
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people over. Don't get me wrong, but I think now
that I finally have a couch and a TV hung
in my living room and my house is starting to
feel like a home because I moved a few months
ago and it's been in disarray. I was laying there alone,
watching TV by myself, and I was happy. So I
don't know that that's my happiest like all the time
(14:15):
all around, but currently maybe that's it might no, no,
but my home has really been empty if you think
about it, so it feels good. How do you feel
around me most of the time?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Why would you ask your kids that Whore's this list.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
From at homeschool underschool.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So how do you feel around me most of the time?
I don't like that you don't How do you feel
about me most of the time?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
How do you feel around me?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Because if like they're able to really check in and
be like I feel comfortable, or I feel anxious or
I feel yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I guess it depends on how and when you're asking
that question.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I feel light or do I feel stressed? I do
think my kids their age fourteen and seventeen and where
they are now in their maturity level, I feel like
they could answer me directly like I feel stressed, yeah,
I feel like you stress me out, or I feel
really good around you. But I do think they could
pinpoint it, and it may vary, so that could be
(15:16):
a question you ask. But I mean it's I think
his parents is good to know or his friends, like,
how do you feel around me most of the time?
Is it like, am I an energy vampire? Or am
I just giving you life?
Speaker 4 (15:29):
You're sucking everything out of this room? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Or do you want to be around me more because
I just recharge you.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Well, I now want to leave because I know you
want your solid ude.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay, that's not what I know.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I'm just kidding. What's the next one?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
What's your favorite memory with our family? That would obviously
be a good one for the kids or family for
our friendship. One of my favorite memories from our friendship
is when we went to New York and we went
to your family's Italian restaurant and we ordered all that
yummy food and I wore pink pants.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Oh you did wear pink pants, and.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
The food was so good, and it just was fun
being in New York with you.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I like that one.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Is there anything about the world or people that you
want to understand?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
I like that one question.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It could be big, but still it's okay to have
big conversations at times, especially with your kids. What do
you want to understand why grown men can't communicate?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I was gonna say how ships float?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But okay, oh, how airplanes get up? I mean, I
know it's physics, but whenever i'm that's really airplanes flying,
I'm like what.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
The cruise ships freak me out, like how it's so heavy?
But also the men in communication. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
But radio.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I think of that when I'm at work all the time, like,
how is this working? How are people listening to us
in their car TV? How does it work? How does
it figure it out? I know, I know have you
watched Ventors obviously, but why does it work Inventors? Yes,
it's all information that has piggybacked off of other information
and trial and error and all the tests. And then
(17:00):
Thomas Ebison's like, I'll let there be light.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Do you know who flew the first plane?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
They're right brothers Okay from Kitty Hawk.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Yeah, North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
She just read a book about this episode.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I grew up going to Matter Banks, and so we
would go to where they flew the first plane.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I forgot vacation there in the summer.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
It was so luxurious.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'll never forget that episode. When you're like we used
the summer there.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
We would first of all go for a week and
we had to drive fourteen hours in a car with
four kids screaming, and I probably was like kicking my sister.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
We had like a TV strap to the did you
ever do that on road trips? Your parents would like strap.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Like the they would strap a TV to the like
center console of the front and the VHS rewinder would
it work? So my mom had to rewind all of
the VHS tapes with her finger. And then one time
we stopped at a gas station, my brother throughout my favorite.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Movie Sweetenn't have to watch it again?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Oh God, Spice World, Oh might throw that's a that's
a classic. And by too young, I mean I'm older
than you, So I don't know that we would have
thought of that option when I was that tablets. You
know where I used to summer Birmingham, Alabama.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Orange Beach.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Wait, that's not Birmingham's orange. Birmingham's the city, Alabama's the state.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Wait what did you do in Birmingham?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, my grandma lived there, my aunt, my uncle, and
my grandma was the manager of a bowling alley, so
we'd go to the bowling alley.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Oh you summered at the bowling alley.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Hmm, that's nice, unlimited soda from the soda fountain, Girl,
cheese candy, that's pretty sweet. Grandma playing poker in the
back smoking cigs. Actually, not poker bridge.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
I say bridge, Grandma's play bridge.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Is there anything you are worried or stressed about. My
daughter would be able to answer that pretty quickly. My
son not so much.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
He's like I love Fife is great.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Homework stresses him out sometimes, but other than that, he's
just breathing a really good phase, which is answer to
prayer quite honestly. Last and final question to ask your
(19:20):
kid before it's too late.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I don't like the before it's too late, like what's
going to happen?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Is there anything you want to learn to get there?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's a sweet question, like do you want to learn
pottery together? Or do you want to learn about how
boat art?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So watch a documentary?
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Speaking of have you watched any good documentaries lately?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I watched The Monsters. I know that's a scripted, acted
thing about the Meninda's brothers. But then last Monday, the
documentary part came out, like the.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Oh, okay, should I watch that first and then watch
the other one?
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I don't think it matters.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Okay, Well, I watched too. I watched The Hope Solo
untold on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Oh watch it?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I have so many questions and I want to
hear from those other soccer players because I don't think
we're getting the full picture.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
That was crazy. The fact that they didn't have.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Health insurance on the women's national soccer team. I can't
get over it. And then I watched Love on the Run.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Okay, that keeps popping up and I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So what It's actually kind of tragic, but it is
crazy and I remember it happening, which is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
So it's about the woman that worked at the jail
that escaped with a prisoner.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yes, okay, she was like the head person and fell
in love with this guy. I'm not gonna like the
she was like one of the head people.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
She wasn't the warden she might have been.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
No, she was just a she was a tiptop person
because people were talking about she sounds tipped and she
had a lot of say like she could just be like, hey,
bring me that inmate to get a test, put them
in the car, and they left, never came back.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's crazy. I haven't watched that one, but I will.
So she has been very into true crime. She watches
these people on YouTube, but that it's sort of like
a podcast, but they're just filmed themselves talking into the
camera about all these details from real life crime are going.
But then they'll show clips of from the news and
(21:19):
you get different details. But it's it's sort of like
a Cliff's Notes version. It's not long drawn out. She
likes them for the pretty quick. Like some of these podcasts,
you could probably listen to an entire season on what
happened to this true crime case. I could probably be
like nine episodes long where she'll watch some you know,
fifteen minute girl on YouTube breaking it all down, and
(21:43):
I mean, she's kind of obsessed.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
With that would give me Nightmarries true crime if I
was that age watching a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I'm glad that I was oblivious to a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I was always already afraid I was going to get kidnapped,
and I just had the news. So you don't want
to check on her ask her what she's afraid of.
I mean, yeah, Also, that's a normal you're laughing, but
that's a normal fear to be kidnapped.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm not laughing like that's that does seem very scary.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I don't think I'm gonna get kidnapped now. I meant
as a kid, I was afraid I was gonna get kidnapped.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I know, I feel bad that you felt that way
like I never did, not once. No, our house was
always unlocked.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
No, yes, I had to have my parents check and
they had to like show me that the alarm was on,
that the doors were locked.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Most of the time.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I slept with my sister and I think she really
didn't like it. And I slept with my glasses on.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Okay, I was really think you were ready.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, because if I got kidnapped, I didn't have my glasses,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Be able to see.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Okay, did you have glasses as a kid, You don't
know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
No, I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
But if it was thundering and lightning, I would take
them off because I was afraid I was gonnat electrocuted.
So I had to pick I wanted to be able
to see or want to be electrocuted.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I don't know that.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I had any fears as a child.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Oh, come on, Other than like heights, were you even
afraid of heights?
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Snakes, spiders?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Well, maybe you shut yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Maybe my dad leaving, okay, maybe you shut your emotions.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Down seeing his girlfriend with a nightie.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
You have no fears. You saw laundry in your dad's wallet.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
My therapist says, she thinks that I had to figure
a lot out on my own. Okay, so I was
very busy trying to figure things out.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, maybe there wasn't time for you to be afraid.
And also because you did so much stuff on your own,
you felt like you could conquer thing.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's an interesting place to be though, because what I
do believe to be the truth of my experience is
I had good parents.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I did that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Both can be true, yes, both, and but she says,
I get really fixated on the fact that they were
really good parents and good people, and that I don't allow.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
The other part.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And I'm not even saying anything. That they were doing
the best that they could with what they had. And
I do think that they were an improvement from their parents.
That's what you can hope, right for all of us,
that each generation gets a little bit healthier. But I
think my brain spent a lot of time trying to
figure stuff out.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
And have you watched The Greeny Cattle.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
For other memories The Glass Cat and or read it?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Okay, it's a really good book and it was turned
into a movie, and I recently watched it for the
second time, Woody Heroeson's in it. You know, I'm on
a Woody Herolson kick. I think you would resonate with this.
I don't think your dad is like this dad, but
most people would probably look at him and be like
that guy was not a great father. But she looks
at him and she's like, my dad was a very
(24:43):
troubled man, but also he created such a I don't
know how she actually said this, but like a colorful
life where we learned so many things and I wouldn't
trade it for the world. And he was an alcoholic,
they were homeless and like squatting a lot of the time,
a lot of trauma for her, but also the core
of who he was was good and loving, and it's
(25:06):
a really good picture of how both can be.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
True and how complex that really is. Yeah, oh, I cried, like,
you gotta watch that movie.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Or maybe I'll read the book that Meninda's brother's thing.
I'm just gonna tell your real thought that I had,
which I know my kids love me. This is all
and I'm not Sashira walks in I'm watching it, and
she goes, oh, were you watching it about those guys
that murdered their parents and I'm like, yeah, but like,
don't get any ideas.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
That's where you asked them the question how do you
feel when you're around me?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Right? And I kind of said that to her. I'm like, oh,
I'm going to turn this off, like no, I don't
want you watching this like not. She's like, well, I've
heard about it. I know what happens. And I said, okay,
ideas and she said, well, you don't abuse me and
if you know some of the story, but then we don't.
(25:57):
I don't know how true. I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
I don't worry. I have no plan, right, like you
take care of.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Me a ride, which I know the dynamics of that
whole family and relationship. I've certainly never experienced anything like it.
If all of what they say is true, which is
debatable allegedly what they say happened, but I don't know.
It's just the thought that I had. It's just well,
when you watch it, you'll know. And I'm like, I
hope nobody want Do people watch these things and.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Get idea ideas? I mean there's copycat yeah, see crimes.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
That's when it's like maybe TV should have never been invented.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Well, I guess if with the radio was invented, we
could hear stories that way too.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
All right, hope y'all are having the day that you
need to have a cat. Where can people find.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
You on Instagram at kat van Buren and at Unique
Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
And I'm at Radio Amy And until next time.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Don't let your storm get your kids with or just
let it sprinkle them.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Don't let your ice melt on you.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Don't let your condensation get on your kids. This nice stand.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Don't let your sweat drip on you.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Go back to your urine ones.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Don't feed your kids your burnt toast.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Is that that's good?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Did?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
You finally get it?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I think that's good. Don't feed your kids your burnt toast.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Don't feed your kids your meat.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Don't give your kids the nail. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Okay, Bye,
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