February 15, 2021 • 35 mins
Skip tells me stories of working with Miranda and Carrie, our first meeting at Al Gore’s house and how the secret service almost kicked out me and my trio, which male country music Skip would marry (great choices btw) and how Country Music is fully funding THE LITTLE YELLOW SCHOOL house in Isla Mujeres w Island Time Music Festival. The Little Yellow School house provides free education for special needs children that otherwise would not get it. And it serves the whole island. You should definitely donate at http://Islandtimeauction.com because donations are the only way it gets funded. Check out the Festival and attend virtually on Feb 24, 25, 26, 27 at http://Islandtimemusicfest.com
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Caroline. She's a queen of talking. She's getting really not
afraid to feel. It's so so just let it flow.
No one can do with c Carol sounds Carol. I'm
here with no exaggeration and no why one of my
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might be one of my top three favorite people in
the world. I have to say Michael and Sonny obviously
in the top two with you, but then I got
my family to you know, but besides, you are like
one of my favorite people that has ever walked this earth.
Skin Bishop. Okay, you're telling me that I'm right under
Sonny and Michael. I mean, you're you're up there. It's awesome.
(00:57):
That's really good about myself. Right now, I'm canceling my
therapy appointment for the week. You just saved me a
d bucks. Okay, what's your handle? Well for anyone's mom
is at caroline hobby. Let's see how that goes. Wat
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you see what happens? Skip. Why don't you tell everyone
how we began our love? Well, I will tell your first.
I always had a crush on you since you were
in you know, like you know, appeared in my life
as a well. Actually we met at al Gore's house
a great place to start. Yeah, that is we met
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at al Gore's house where uh I was there with
uh Sony. When I was with Sony as opposed to Skip,
was the head of promotions for Sony Records for years
and years and years and years and years and years
and years and years. He's broken all of your favorite singers,
songs acts. He's like alleged end in the music. Come on,
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you are listen. When you've earned a legendary status, you
might as well just claim it. Well, I think the
legendary means that you're an elder statesman. And you know,
even though my hair may be white, I actually put
this color in. You know, this is this is not
natural white hair. I have this. I pay for this.
Oh I love it. And my hair is red and
(02:24):
it's called it's called platinum Moonlight. Why do you go
from red to frost? It gives me some credibility. I
like it. I like it anyway, So, uh Stealing Angels,
which in at the time, right, you guys were playing
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a set at al Gore's house and I was there.
It was a fund raiser and I'm like, oh my god,
these this band is just awesome and who is that girl,
you know, like Marlo Thomas. You know Marlo. You don't
know who Marlowe Thomas is Thomas, He's that girl. Check
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your history books, you child. It was a tremendous Marlo
Thomas is the daughter of Danny Thomas, who had a
who had a show called That Girl. It was a
sitcom for years and called that girl. Marlow was that girl. Anyway,
this night at our buddy else place, we're all hanging
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out with it with President Gore, who really won the election.
But that's another conversation trouble because back then, like Taylor
Jen and I who was in Stealing Angels, we were
obsessed with like putting every recording everything, putting everything on
social media or whatever social media existed back then. So
we were like filming doing us. We got in big
trouble of the Secret Service because we weren't allowed to
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do that. Huh. I kept coming and going, chatting up
the kitchen staff. The kitchen staff was fun. A uh,
look a couple of cooking tips and got a couple
of three drinks out of the deal. U. I will
tell you, okay, I can tell you this really fast.
One thing Al Gore said that I have never forgotten
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from that performance was someone asked the question, how much
how much information do the American people really know about
what's going on in government? And he said, yeah, I
can believe that. I gotta tell you he I got
a moment or two to chat with him, and uh,
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he's a cool dude. Yeah, cool dude, he's smart, he's
you know, lives in Nashville. That makes you even cooler. Uh.
And you know, you go back in your you know,
history books to that election and it was funky. You know,
remember we didn't know who was the president for the
longest time, and it was like Al Gore's every president.
No he's not. Now it's George Bush. No, no, wait no,
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And and it was it was crazy days. I mean,
of course we were compared to what now, it's completely bizarre. Anyway,
So we're at OL's house. We're all at OL's house,
hanging out, hanging out in the kitchen. You're taking pictures
with your phone that you shouldn't take, you know, getting
national security problems. And Steely Angels did a set and
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knocked it out of the park and I and I
came up to you after the show and I introduced
myself and said, you guys were absolutely fantastic, and we
became friends on that day and we used to see
each other around and I'd go, hey, you're Caroline and Thomas, yeah,
you're that girl. And that's how we became buddies. And
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then years later after you like okay, you appeared on
national television on the Amazing Race with uh with your lovely,
lovely twin sister, Uh, Jennifer who it is just family
too now. Uh. You guys came into my life because
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we were all working under the same little conglomerate and
then we all worked for the same record company when
oh they were the best. They were the best. I
brought you over to the little label that we had
called Hit Shop. You were already working on the publishing
side as a writer, right, a song plugger. Oh that's right,
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you were the song plugger. Jen was a writer. Yeah.
And then you guys started calling, right, I come and say,
do you know so and so, you know Johnny Chang
and Houston. Oh yeah, I'll call Johnny And you'd call
Johnny and he played the record for you and I thought, idea, well,
it was incredible. You guys were the best to promotion
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people ever. And everyone listening. A promotion person is when
you hear your your favorite artist on the radio playing
and you're hearing your song that you love. There's a
whole team of people on that artist label who go
around to radio stations across the country and get that
song added to radio stations. And so no matter what,
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no matter what I mean, it is like, it is
a serious job. It is hard for and Skip it
has been in charge of promotion staff for years and
years and years. Like I said, he's legendary. And so
I happened to fall into this amazing experience where I
was working in a publishing company and you were running
the label. And then Skip, because Jen and I had
been artists together and stealing angels, we had all these
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radio connections and we had all this just this history
with radio that was so positive that Skip had this
brilliant idea. Well, you know, we let you guys work
as one. It was well, it was a duo. It
was like almost like being an artist duo. It was
an artist duo. You guys would go out, travel together,
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put on events together, do all those things, and you
would come back with buckets of airplay because really good, Yeah,
you walk in with those relationships, with your charm, with
your smarts, with your persistence, and you guys, you were lethal.
No one could no one could there there is no
resistance allowed or possible when you guys went in. Well,
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I know that Jenne and I used to have it down.
We'd be like we would just a corner. Someone like
you could not escape us. We were going to get
the ad. You know, I just googled your podcast. This
is supposed to be about country music artist wives. I
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feature where many artists wives, which I think, what what
what what? What? What? What? What? What I saw said
the show is about interviewing country artists wives. That is
a big part of this show. Yes, huh, I think
you would make an excellent wife to country star. I
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mean the hair alone, there's a couple. Let's let's list
a couple of issues, and and thank you for that.
I appreciate that. But the couple of issues number one,
I'm married to too, to Diane for a hundred and
sixty eight years. I I'm the most boring guy in
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the world, as meaning that I'm white and straight. You know,
I'm just like boring your super avant garde. Okay, but
taking on a country music husband is not really in
my It's not really in my playbook because you know, again,
the physical attractions not there. But I got a lot,
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but I do love a lot of them. Got a
good looking country artists out there. If you had to
be the wife to one of country music biggest star,
which one? Who would you be married to? And why?
Oh my god, that's a tough, tough question. You know,
you have an answer right on the tip of your tongue,
but I don't. I mean, okay, because again I don't know.
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It's not about the looks, because again, being a normal
boring dude, you're not. So you've got to take boring
out your father. Okay, all right, So I'm you know,
I would say I would look for someone with artistic qualities,
someone that you know, I like the granola type, So
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I would I don't know, you know, I find I
like the complexity of Brad Paisley's writing and personality. Okay, okay, okay, yeah,
And I like complex people much. That's why I like you.
I like the granola crunchiness of of Chris Stapleton, Yes
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a truth, yeah, but you know it's what about Jason
Isbel's he a little too complex. No, it's no, it's
way too cool. Yeah. Yeah, and I can walk down
the aisle together. I feel like I feel like he's
my wife. Across the room is saying, what about Chris Stofferson,
he's a little old for me Christofferson, No, he is
the one I wouldn't want to be Christo Chris Christofferson's wife. Yeah,
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well I would two. As long as i'm all of
these people, I'm up for it. As long as we
don't have to kiss, well then I mean it's gonna
be a really boring marriage, right, No, god, No, we
can read books together, travel, cook, all those kind of things. Yeah,
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no kissing. Okay, okay, okay, I mean it's a new
spin on marriage. But hey, it could work. Okay, So
if we had, if you had to do your front
runner between Chris Stapleton, Chris Christofferson, um Brad Paisley, and
Jason Isabelle, who would it be. I don't know. I
haven't really gone through the list. Yeah, it's hard to think.
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I've never thought about who what man I'm going to marry?
But it is I'm a modern guy and I can
have these thoughts. But again, you know, I'm sort of
comfortable in my own you know, current sexuality. Uh, it's
kind of hard to make that determination. Okay, Well, like,
I'll tell you who I like. Okay, I like Charles Kelly.
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Great choice. He's fun, it's nice, he's nice, he's creative.
Yeah yeah, good dude, Good dude, he's good dude. It
seems like he's a good dude. Family Ross Kelly beat
all the other ones? Is he the number one? No? No, no,
that's You're laying out quite a list here. I mean,
it looks like you gotta a lot of favorite Can
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we talk about some babes? Okay? If you had to
marry one country music artists, who would it be? Uh? Uh,
you know, I don't know. For some reason, my wife,
who was across the room is sharpening the knives. Okay
about this, let's change this. Let's change this question. You've
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worked with many, many, many female country music artists. Who
was your who was the most enjoyable experience working with?
I'm not saying you want to marry her, but who
did you love getting to know and working with and
pushing their career into stardom? Um? That's got that's I
will tell you I did really for a lot of reasons.
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Enjoy working with Miranda. Would you love about Miranda? Yeah?
I loved her edginess, and I loved that she was
very you know. We uh we went and ran New
York and did some promo stuff with her and her
fantastic manager, Marion, and I just came to really enjoy her,
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both of them. Their sense of humor there, uh, there
the take no prisoner's attitude. Uh, it's fantastic. I really
liked working with Carrie because Carrie, please she I have
to tell you, she has her eyes on the prize.
She was She was very focused. She knew exactly what
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she wanted to do. She is talented to to to
be two for the entire planet to hear her voice
and know how much talent she had. How did she
go about doing that? Because I feel like a lot
of artists want to achieve that, but they don't get
the level of Carrie. What did you do? I'll tell
you what she did. She did, I'm gonna three words,
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work really hard. She would do whatever we asked her
to do do in the early days and there I mean,
I'm sure I'm sure she still does That was her
m o. But it was like, Okay, we are going
to have to spend Saturday calling sixty radio stations and
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doing sixty interviews back to back. Okay, all right, you
know and whatever. It was a we're gonna have to
fly into this city and we're gonna have to go
meet with these people and do that. Okay, whatever it takes.
She was always there, and she was she was on
point and smart and driven and focused. That's exactly who
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she was. And it was you know, it was just
and that voice. Good God, I'm mighty. So a lot
of people say Carrie Underwood is really shy, which like
when you see her on TV, she doesn't seem shy,
but like knowing her the way that you know her,
is she shy? Yes, she definitely is. She's quiet, she's private. Uh,
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she is all those things. And I think shy is
really a good thing. Some people missing misinterpreted as her
being stuffy, but she's not. She's just you know, she's
shock and she when but when the red light comes on,
the stardom comes out, and you know, she knows what
she wants and how she's gonna get there, and um,
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and she's just she's a she's a very private person,
and and there's nothing wrong with that. There's a lot
of people that are it's you know, it's you know,
tons of people are like that. She's if it was
her choice, She's not gonna walk around and shake hands
and kiss babies every everywhere. But when there's a job
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to be done and a commitment made, she never backs down.
That's amazing. Maybe I never made it as an artist
because I am opposite of shy. Maybe I should be
a little more shy, and that would your You know,
your your person Your personality is you're doing what you
should do. Your stage, your your your your, The entire
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world is yours. All you need is a stage to
get out there and be the lovely, charm and hilarious,
funny person that you are. I love that you think
I'm funny because I always feel like I'm not funny.
Like I feel like I'm a really good laugher at
people who are funny, but I feel like I don't
really have a sense of humor for myself. Well, you
got you so fooled. You bring out my sense of humor.
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There's certain people in my life that make me laugh
and make me funny, like you make me funny. Taylor Lynn,
my old trio mate. Yeah, people make me funny. Hear
one of those. Well, let me just give you an example.
You asked me to be on an interview about country
music wives and asked me what guy I'd like to
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be married to. That's pretty funny. Well, you're a funny skin. Uh.
But we have been really important to talk about. Actually
were funy things to talk about. But yes, I mean
we're both involved. I'm recently newly involved in this incredible
charity that's happening that is literally one of the biggest
events for a lot of the now full community. Tons
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of artists participate. It raises so much money from Mecca
School with the Little Yale Schoolhouse in Mexico. I need
to hear details and you need to share because people
who haven't heard about this need to hear about it. Well,
the Island Time Music Fest has been going on now
for twelve years and it's a remarkable and magical thing
that happened organically that has turned into this major event.
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And what makes it so special is all the proceeds
go to the school. There's it's a it's a volunteer
based concert. Now you think about this, some of the
biggest artists in Nashville give their time. They take a
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week off because it's a five night event. This year
it's only four, but traditionally on the island of Eastleu
Moharris it's five nights and they could be out touring
making money. This is of course pre covid uh that
has that they give up this time and they go
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down there and they play and raise all this money
for the school. Now, the school is for special needs
kids in Mexico. Now, a couple of things that you
need to think about. Number One, the Mexican public school
system does not have the infrastructure to educate kids at
this level of disability, so they don't qualify for the
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public schools. Secondly, just as in the US, private schools
who educate kids at this level are expensive, and there's
a lot of poverty down there as it is in
the U s and the these kids really don't, you know,
the private schools are out of reach, so they don't
really have an option except to stay home. And the
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Little Yellow Schoolhouse was born from this and several people
got together funded a six room classroom, six student classroom
one room six students too, and brought in a teacher
to educate these kids will. Now because of the festival,
it's grown into half a block the school. There are
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there is a full staff of teachers. There are seventy
two students. Now we have a seventy nine conversion rate
of educating children too there at the level of being
able to attend public schools. And if they still don't
hit that level, they stay in the school so they
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do get quality education. And the thing, everything, every part
of the school, the teachers, salaries, the building, the materials,
and the insurance, everything is paid for by the Islandown
Music Fest. For all of that, we raise enough money
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every year to fund the school for yet another year.
So then it's crucial. Oh, it's crucial, and it's and
it's beautiful and it's amazing. And every year the the
artists that go down to the island will visit the
school and it will put you in tears. They will.
Every year we'll have an artist that will perform, uh
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and it's just incredible. They'll perform for the kids, and
then the kids will perform for for the artist and
it will it'll just bring you to tears. It's so sweet.
And then and then at the end of the visit.
We all dance, the kids dance with the artist, and
we've got some footage of that which is beautifully heartbreaking.
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But we take over. Now, we take over the entire island.
It used to be a couple of people in a
bar and you know, and we'd sell some tickets and
everything would be But now the entire island of East
lou Maharis is booked. You can't get a hotel room
there during the festival. You have to go to Cancoon
to get a room. And people just flocked to the island.
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All the events are sold out and it's one of
the most special things you'll ever see. So people who
want to attend as um just participants and enjoying the
concert like that's people fly there and have a vacation
and then just go to this correct correct and they
they buy like a four day pass, a five day
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pass that. So you know, people are thrown down hard money.
They're paying for you know, a hotel for a week,
they're paying for flights there um, and they're you know
buying typically two tickets each, which you know is a
is a chunk, but you make it a vacation, you
make it a very special vacation for yourself, because not
only you enjoy this amazing island, you're getting to interact
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with artists because they're just wandering around two and you're
hearing them perform, and it's very laid back, amazing setting,
and you are doing something that is so so so
important by funding a little yellow schoolhouse. I mean, wow, Skip,
this is amazing. And you are the chairman of this,
like you really are, like the brains behind this. The
mastermind can go quite that far. I have no brains left,
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but I am the I'm the co chairman. There's a
fellow named Rob Goff who is really funny. We define
music business. I'm music and he's business. He knows nothing
about the music part and admits it, but he knows
everything about you know. I'll say, oh, I got this
great idea. We're gonna fly a hot air balloon and
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we're going to do this, and he's gonna go and
and he gets out as a little calculator and goes
they're not and we work well together. But he's he
lives on the island most of the year. Uh. Then
he lives in the Midwest in some place that starts
with an m uh. Uh, and he's he you know,
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he too does the business part, and I, you know,
do the talent and the promotion in the marketing and
all those things I enjoy doing. But we'll tell you what, no, no, no,
you you know you I'm about to like take it
on a different road. So you wrap up your thought
and I have another question for you. Have my thoughts
were wrapped up so long ago I have top the
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head with a hammer to get anything out of here. Nowadays,
how has this changed and affected your life? Well, I
will tell you it it has. It's sort of there's
a spiritual connection. You realize that everybody's got these talents,
you know that whatever they are. I mean, if you
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really think about you know, everybody has the talent. You know,
the people at the grocery store that check you out,
they have gifts. And when you find something that you
can apply your whatever it is that you can do
towards making the world better, it makes a the world better.
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It makes you a better person. And I have found
a sense of humility and I found a sense of
spirituality that I can get together with so many of
my great friends, and I said, We're gonna all go
down to Mexico and we're gonna make a difference. And
these kids lives are changed because of musicians going in
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there and playing and giving their gifts, their their talent.
They sing the songs they wrote, they performed for the crowds,
and that's what they give and these kids have a
chance at a normal life. Tangibly, you see it happening
from the school to the stage to its to their
life on the island, and you see that all of
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a sudden, they're lifted up and it's one of the
most incredible feelings ever. It really aligns your priorities. That's amazing, Skip,
that's really really true, amazing. I'm so sad that it
can't happen in person this year, but it will not
be stopped. This show must go on, and so it
is going to be a virtual experience. And you're so
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kind to have me host a tiny bit of it
and Michael and his Band of thousand Horses got to
play for a little segment of it. So tell everyone
how they can see it, what it's going to be
this year, and how they can give money, because I
know everyone listening is going to want to do that. Well,
there's there's the easiest way is to right now, just
go to Island Time Music Fest dot com Island Time
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Music Fest dot com. All the information is there. And
we made a major decision just a few days ago
that instead of selling tickets, we're going to open it
up to the entire world. We're going to um allow
anyone that wants to watch the show, watch the show
and just make a donation. If your donation is five cents,
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we welcome it. If your donation is five thousand dollars,
we welcome it. Whatever you want to give, give what
you can give, what you what you want to give.
And through the generosity of so many people, uh the
Vinyl Lab that the new vinyl pressing plant here in
Nashville has given us an extremely generous donation to to
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towards the school and the production of the show. Uh uh,
Kicker Audio has given us an extremely generous donation towards
the production of the show. Um, this was very big.
Intercom Radio, which is one of the largest chains out there,
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is going to broadcast this show on their digital properties.
And then they've asked for us to cut it down
to one night's a four night show. We're gonna cut
it down to one night and they're gonna rebroadcast it
and ask for donations. Uh. One of the most exciting
parts is the production itself is by Sean Silva's tackle
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Box Films that everyone knows from his history with with
Kenny Chesney, with Luke Bryant, with Jason Alden with his
mantle full of awards video director. Yes, he is the guy.
He's the guy to go to. And he is directing
the show. He's producing the show, his team is all
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and this the quality of the show, the sound, and
the visuals will be as good as any awards show
you've seen on television. And yeah, so it's open to
the world. I mean you don't have to you know,
you don't have to buy a hundred and fifty dollar
ticket to get in. All you have to do is
go to Island Time Music Fest dot com. It will
take you to NUGS TV and UH, and you can
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watch all four nights of the show and we encourage
you to give what you can. And that's what Maybe
when the world even opens back up, maybe this virtual
part will still stay a part of it. You know,
I think it will. I think it will because it's it.
There's a lot of people that just can't really jump
up and go to the island for a week in February.
They don't have the time off work. And it now
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gives everybody a chance to experience this incredible music event.
I mean, if you, I mean, we've got Vin Skale
this year, We've got thousand horrises. This year, we have Lee,
Bryce Runaway, June Uh, Kelly Pickler and Kyle Jacobs always host.
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They are the king and the Queen of the show
and they never stopped giving they every This is their
seventh year of hosting and uh, they are incredible and
their workforces all year long. They the festival would not
happen without them. They work all year to encourage their
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artist buddies to go to come to the show. They
you know they talk about the school. Yeah, they're just blessings.
Blackbird Smokes on the show this year. Fine, I love them. Yeah,
Lisa Loebe is on the show again. Here what I
want with Dawes and her double pay attention to I mean,
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I know that whole song could anyway don't understand to
be really carefully here negative no, no, no, yeah, okay,
they got darn good. Thanks. Lisa should call me. I
can help her. Okay, well we'll put that together. But
it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great, and you
can also read, uh read about it up in an
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upcoming edition of Monday Morning Intel. The magazine what's that?
Because now you have a magazine Skip Skip Bishop everyone
for everyone listening, you're probably gathering this Skip does everything.
He has done it all, does it all, and continues
to do it all. So you have a magazine as well.
We do we uh we We partnered up with some
really interesting people. Uh my business partner for the last
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thirty five years as a felon in which wi that
everybody knows. We have a little company called Studio to
the Entertainment, and we partnered up with a guy named
Rich Meyer who invented a system called media Base, which
is a research monitoring system. He partnered up with a
guy named Steve Lahman who was the father of a
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company called Premier Radio, which is just a massive organization.
And these guys are all about tech research. And we
put together Monday Morning Intel, which is a there's a
country version and a top forty version and the centerpiece
is a new chart. And in that chart, it's not
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just an airplay chart. We take call out research. We
take retention scores, which is a technical thing too. That
sounds like nothing unless you're in the radio and mon
a during business, but it tells how long people actually
listen to a song, just like flipping through and skipping right.
We take streaming numbers on the video, We take audio
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streaming numbers, We take airplay, and we put it all
into a new configuration and rank records as performance, not
just on airplane. Okay, where can people go to see this?
Monday morning Intel dot com. Okay, So the two big
websites that we need to remember for this podcast are
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Island Time Music dot com, Island Time Music Fest dot com,
Island Time Music Fest dot com, and Monday Morning Intel
dot com. And one more, one more, if you don't
mind drop it, Island Time Auction dot com. Yes, tell
me about that autograph guitars, all sorts of great artist
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memorabilia packages where you can win to fly out to
Mexico and stay on the island of East Luma. Harris
packages where you could you could come to Nashville for
a star studded weekend. There's so many great things that
are all donations from so many generous people that you
could win. But you'll see you on the show. Almost
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every artist signs a guitar on camera, and those guitars
are going to be available on Island time auction dot Com.
Amazing skit, Bishop, you never see Amaze me. You're making
the world such a magical, amazing better place with your
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existence in your incredible heart and how you bring people
together and how you give to the world. It is
truly an honor, a blessing to know you. You're one
of my most favorite people. As I said, you are
a magical unicorn in this world, and I feel so
blessed to have you as a dear, dear friend. Thank
you so much. That's so nice, and I feel right
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back the same way, like I'm holding up a mirror
and I love you that much as will. But but
can I Can I stay married to Diane? Do I
have to marry like Jason Isabel? Only if you tell
me which one you'd pick for your number one husband
and then you can stay with Diane. No, you have to.
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You have to pick one. You have to. I can't
do it. I love them all different ways, but I'm sticking.
I'm sticking with my normal, old, boring self. I'm just
kind of a white, straight guy. Okay, you're not normal,
old or boring. But okay, if you just want to
stay I've committed. I've committed for sixty eight years. I'm
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staying in this lane. Okay, just might as well. Who
knows what happens in the future. I mean it's wide open.
You know, we'll keep me updated. If you decided to,
like go make a move on one of these guys,
let me know. Okay, I'll talk to you soon. Always
wrap with one question, which is leave your light. What
do you want people to know that love is all
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that matters. There's nothing else. Possessions don't matter, property doesn't matter,
status doesn't matter, money doesn't matter, mansions crumbled. Love is
all that matters. Love is all that endures, Love is
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all that is eternal. A Men's good Bishop, everyone, I
love you so much. Skip m by all right,
Caroline. She's a queen of talking. She's getting really not
afraid to feel. It's so so just let it flow.
No one can do with c Carol sounds Carol. I'm
here with no exaggeration and no why one of my
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might be one of my top three favorite people in
the world. I have to say Michael and Sonny obviously
in the top two with you, but then I got
my family to you know, but besides, you are like
one of my favorite people that has ever walked this earth.
Skin Bishop. Okay, you're telling me that I'm right under
Sonny and Michael. I mean, you're you're up there. It's awesome.
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That's really good about myself. Right now, I'm canceling my
therapy appointment for the week. You just saved me a
d bucks. Okay, what's your handle? Well for anyone's mom
is at caroline hobby. Let's see how that goes. Wat
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you see what happens? Skip. Why don't you tell everyone
how we began our love? Well, I will tell your first.
I always had a crush on you since you were
in you know, like you know, appeared in my life
as a well. Actually we met at al Gore's house
a great place to start. Yeah, that is we met
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at al Gore's house where uh I was there with
uh Sony. When I was with Sony as opposed to Skip,
was the head of promotions for Sony Records for years
and years and years and years and years and years
and years and years. He's broken all of your favorite singers,
songs acts. He's like alleged end in the music. Come on,
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you are listen. When you've earned a legendary status, you
might as well just claim it. Well, I think the
legendary means that you're an elder statesman. And you know,
even though my hair may be white, I actually put
this color in. You know, this is this is not
natural white hair. I have this. I pay for this.
Oh I love it. And my hair is red and
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it's called it's called platinum Moonlight. Why do you go
from red to frost? It gives me some credibility. I
like it. I like it anyway, So, uh Stealing Angels,
which in at the time, right, you guys were playing
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a set at al Gore's house and I was there.
It was a fund raiser and I'm like, oh my god,
these this band is just awesome and who is that girl,
you know, like Marlo Thomas. You know Marlo. You don't
know who Marlowe Thomas is Thomas, He's that girl. Check
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your history books, you child. It was a tremendous Marlo
Thomas is the daughter of Danny Thomas, who had a
who had a show called That Girl. It was a
sitcom for years and called that girl. Marlow was that girl. Anyway,
this night at our buddy else place, we're all hanging
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out with it with President Gore, who really won the election.
But that's another conversation trouble because back then, like Taylor
Jen and I who was in Stealing Angels, we were
obsessed with like putting every recording everything, putting everything on
social media or whatever social media existed back then. So
we were like filming doing us. We got in big
trouble of the Secret Service because we weren't allowed to
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do that. Huh. I kept coming and going, chatting up
the kitchen staff. The kitchen staff was fun. A uh,
look a couple of cooking tips and got a couple
of three drinks out of the deal. U. I will
tell you, okay, I can tell you this really fast.
One thing Al Gore said that I have never forgotten
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from that performance was someone asked the question, how much
how much information do the American people really know about
what's going on in government? And he said, yeah, I
can believe that. I gotta tell you he I got
a moment or two to chat with him, and uh,
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he's a cool dude. Yeah, cool dude, he's smart, he's
you know, lives in Nashville. That makes you even cooler. Uh.
And you know, you go back in your you know,
history books to that election and it was funky. You know,
remember we didn't know who was the president for the
longest time, and it was like Al Gore's every president.
No he's not. Now it's George Bush. No, no, wait no,
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And and it was it was crazy days. I mean,
of course we were compared to what now, it's completely bizarre. Anyway,
So we're at OL's house. We're all at OL's house,
hanging out, hanging out in the kitchen. You're taking pictures
with your phone that you shouldn't take, you know, getting
national security problems. And Steely Angels did a set and
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knocked it out of the park and I and I
came up to you after the show and I introduced
myself and said, you guys were absolutely fantastic, and we
became friends on that day and we used to see
each other around and I'd go, hey, you're Caroline and Thomas, yeah,
you're that girl. And that's how we became buddies. And
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then years later after you like okay, you appeared on
national television on the Amazing Race with uh with your lovely,
lovely twin sister, Uh, Jennifer who it is just family
too now. Uh. You guys came into my life because
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we were all working under the same little conglomerate and
then we all worked for the same record company when
oh they were the best. They were the best. I
brought you over to the little label that we had
called Hit Shop. You were already working on the publishing
side as a writer, right, a song plugger. Oh that's right,
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you were the song plugger. Jen was a writer. Yeah.
And then you guys started calling, right, I come and say,
do you know so and so, you know Johnny Chang
and Houston. Oh yeah, I'll call Johnny And you'd call
Johnny and he played the record for you and I thought, idea, well,
it was incredible. You guys were the best to promotion
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people ever. And everyone listening. A promotion person is when
you hear your your favorite artist on the radio playing
and you're hearing your song that you love. There's a
whole team of people on that artist label who go
around to radio stations across the country and get that
song added to radio stations. And so no matter what,
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no matter what I mean, it is like, it is
a serious job. It is hard for and Skip it
has been in charge of promotion staff for years and
years and years. Like I said, he's legendary. And so
I happened to fall into this amazing experience where I
was working in a publishing company and you were running
the label. And then Skip, because Jen and I had
been artists together and stealing angels, we had all these
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radio connections and we had all this just this history
with radio that was so positive that Skip had this
brilliant idea. Well, you know, we let you guys work
as one. It was well, it was a duo. It
was like almost like being an artist duo. It was
an artist duo. You guys would go out, travel together,
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put on events together, do all those things, and you
would come back with buckets of airplay because really good, Yeah,
you walk in with those relationships, with your charm, with
your smarts, with your persistence, and you guys, you were lethal.
No one could no one could there there is no
resistance allowed or possible when you guys went in. Well,
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I know that Jenne and I used to have it down.
We'd be like we would just a corner. Someone like
you could not escape us. We were going to get
the ad. You know, I just googled your podcast. This
is supposed to be about country music artist wives. I
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feature where many artists wives, which I think, what what
what what? What? What? What? What? What I saw said
the show is about interviewing country artists wives. That is
a big part of this show. Yes, huh, I think
you would make an excellent wife to country star. I
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mean the hair alone, there's a couple. Let's let's list
a couple of issues, and and thank you for that.
I appreciate that. But the couple of issues number one,
I'm married to too, to Diane for a hundred and
sixty eight years. I I'm the most boring guy in
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the world, as meaning that I'm white and straight. You know,
I'm just like boring your super avant garde. Okay, but
taking on a country music husband is not really in
my It's not really in my playbook because you know, again,
the physical attractions not there. But I got a lot,
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but I do love a lot of them. Got a
good looking country artists out there. If you had to
be the wife to one of country music biggest star,
which one? Who would you be married to? And why?
Oh my god, that's a tough, tough question. You know,
you have an answer right on the tip of your tongue,
but I don't. I mean, okay, because again I don't know.
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It's not about the looks, because again, being a normal
boring dude, you're not. So you've got to take boring
out your father. Okay, all right, So I'm you know,
I would say I would look for someone with artistic qualities,
someone that you know, I like the granola type, So
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I would I don't know, you know, I find I
like the complexity of Brad Paisley's writing and personality. Okay, okay, okay, yeah,
And I like complex people much. That's why I like you.
I like the granola crunchiness of of Chris Stapleton, Yes
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a truth, yeah, but you know it's what about Jason
Isbel's he a little too complex. No, it's no, it's
way too cool. Yeah. Yeah, and I can walk down
the aisle together. I feel like I feel like he's
my wife. Across the room is saying, what about Chris Stofferson,
he's a little old for me Christofferson, No, he is
the one I wouldn't want to be Christo Chris Christofferson's wife. Yeah,
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well I would two. As long as i'm all of
these people, I'm up for it. As long as we
don't have to kiss, well then I mean it's gonna
be a really boring marriage, right, No, god, No, we
can read books together, travel, cook, all those kind of things. Yeah,
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no kissing. Okay, okay, okay, I mean it's a new
spin on marriage. But hey, it could work. Okay, So
if we had, if you had to do your front
runner between Chris Stapleton, Chris Christofferson, um Brad Paisley, and
Jason Isabelle, who would it be. I don't know. I
haven't really gone through the list. Yeah, it's hard to think.
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I've never thought about who what man I'm going to marry?
But it is I'm a modern guy and I can
have these thoughts. But again, you know, I'm sort of
comfortable in my own you know, current sexuality. Uh, it's
kind of hard to make that determination. Okay, Well, like,
I'll tell you who I like. Okay, I like Charles Kelly.
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Great choice. He's fun, it's nice, he's nice, he's creative.
Yeah yeah, good dude, Good dude, he's good dude. It
seems like he's a good dude. Family Ross Kelly beat
all the other ones? Is he the number one? No? No, no,
that's You're laying out quite a list here. I mean,
it looks like you gotta a lot of favorite Can
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we talk about some babes? Okay? If you had to
marry one country music artists, who would it be? Uh? Uh,
you know, I don't know. For some reason, my wife,
who was across the room is sharpening the knives. Okay
about this, let's change this. Let's change this question. You've
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worked with many, many, many female country music artists. Who
was your who was the most enjoyable experience working with?
I'm not saying you want to marry her, but who
did you love getting to know and working with and
pushing their career into stardom? Um? That's got that's I
will tell you I did really for a lot of reasons.
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Enjoy working with Miranda. Would you love about Miranda? Yeah?
I loved her edginess, and I loved that she was
very you know. We uh we went and ran New
York and did some promo stuff with her and her
fantastic manager, Marion, and I just came to really enjoy her,
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both of them. Their sense of humor there, uh, there
the take no prisoner's attitude. Uh, it's fantastic. I really
liked working with Carrie because Carrie, please she I have
to tell you, she has her eyes on the prize.
She was She was very focused. She knew exactly what
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she wanted to do. She is talented to to to
be two for the entire planet to hear her voice
and know how much talent she had. How did she
go about doing that? Because I feel like a lot
of artists want to achieve that, but they don't get
the level of Carrie. What did you do? I'll tell
you what she did. She did, I'm gonna three words,
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work really hard. She would do whatever we asked her
to do do in the early days and there I mean,
I'm sure I'm sure she still does That was her
m o. But it was like, Okay, we are going
to have to spend Saturday calling sixty radio stations and
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doing sixty interviews back to back. Okay, all right, you
know and whatever. It was a we're gonna have to
fly into this city and we're gonna have to go
meet with these people and do that. Okay, whatever it takes.
She was always there, and she was she was on
point and smart and driven and focused. That's exactly who
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she was. And it was you know, it was just
and that voice. Good God, I'm mighty. So a lot
of people say Carrie Underwood is really shy, which like
when you see her on TV, she doesn't seem shy,
but like knowing her the way that you know her,
is she shy? Yes, she definitely is. She's quiet, she's private. Uh,
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she is all those things. And I think shy is
really a good thing. Some people missing misinterpreted as her
being stuffy, but she's not. She's just you know, she's
shock and she when but when the red light comes on,
the stardom comes out, and you know, she knows what
she wants and how she's gonna get there, and um,
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and she's just she's a she's a very private person,
and and there's nothing wrong with that. There's a lot
of people that are it's you know, it's you know,
tons of people are like that. She's if it was
her choice, She's not gonna walk around and shake hands
and kiss babies every everywhere. But when there's a job
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to be done and a commitment made, she never backs down.
That's amazing. Maybe I never made it as an artist
because I am opposite of shy. Maybe I should be
a little more shy, and that would your You know,
your your person Your personality is you're doing what you
should do. Your stage, your your your your, The entire
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world is yours. All you need is a stage to
get out there and be the lovely, charm and hilarious,
funny person that you are. I love that you think
I'm funny because I always feel like I'm not funny.
Like I feel like I'm a really good laugher at
people who are funny, but I feel like I don't
really have a sense of humor for myself. Well, you
got you so fooled. You bring out my sense of humor.
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There's certain people in my life that make me laugh
and make me funny, like you make me funny. Taylor Lynn,
my old trio mate. Yeah, people make me funny. Hear
one of those. Well, let me just give you an example.
You asked me to be on an interview about country
music wives and asked me what guy I'd like to
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be married to. That's pretty funny. Well, you're a funny skin. Uh.
But we have been really important to talk about. Actually
were funy things to talk about. But yes, I mean
we're both involved. I'm recently newly involved in this incredible
charity that's happening that is literally one of the biggest
events for a lot of the now full community. Tons
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of artists participate. It raises so much money from Mecca
School with the Little Yale Schoolhouse in Mexico. I need
to hear details and you need to share because people
who haven't heard about this need to hear about it. Well,
the Island Time Music Fest has been going on now
for twelve years and it's a remarkable and magical thing
that happened organically that has turned into this major event.
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And what makes it so special is all the proceeds
go to the school. There's it's a it's a volunteer
based concert. Now you think about this, some of the
biggest artists in Nashville give their time. They take a
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week off because it's a five night event. This year
it's only four, but traditionally on the island of Eastleu
Moharris it's five nights and they could be out touring
making money. This is of course pre covid uh that
has that they give up this time and they go
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down there and they play and raise all this money
for the school. Now, the school is for special needs
kids in Mexico. Now, a couple of things that you
need to think about. Number One, the Mexican public school
system does not have the infrastructure to educate kids at
this level of disability, so they don't qualify for the
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public schools. Secondly, just as in the US, private schools
who educate kids at this level are expensive, and there's
a lot of poverty down there as it is in
the U s and the these kids really don't, you know,
the private schools are out of reach, so they don't
really have an option except to stay home. And the
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Little Yellow Schoolhouse was born from this and several people
got together funded a six room classroom, six student classroom
one room six students too, and brought in a teacher
to educate these kids will. Now because of the festival,
it's grown into half a block the school. There are
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there is a full staff of teachers. There are seventy
two students. Now we have a seventy nine conversion rate
of educating children too there at the level of being
able to attend public schools. And if they still don't
hit that level, they stay in the school so they
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do get quality education. And the thing, everything, every part
of the school, the teachers, salaries, the building, the materials,
and the insurance, everything is paid for by the Islandown
Music Fest. For all of that, we raise enough money
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every year to fund the school for yet another year.
So then it's crucial. Oh, it's crucial, and it's and
it's beautiful and it's amazing. And every year the the
artists that go down to the island will visit the
school and it will put you in tears. They will.
Every year we'll have an artist that will perform, uh
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and it's just incredible. They'll perform for the kids, and
then the kids will perform for for the artist and
it will it'll just bring you to tears. It's so sweet.
And then and then at the end of the visit.
We all dance, the kids dance with the artist, and
we've got some footage of that which is beautifully heartbreaking.
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But we take over. Now, we take over the entire island.
It used to be a couple of people in a
bar and you know, and we'd sell some tickets and
everything would be But now the entire island of East
lou Maharis is booked. You can't get a hotel room
there during the festival. You have to go to Cancoon
to get a room. And people just flocked to the island.
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All the events are sold out and it's one of
the most special things you'll ever see. So people who
want to attend as um just participants and enjoying the
concert like that's people fly there and have a vacation
and then just go to this correct correct and they
they buy like a four day pass, a five day
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pass that. So you know, people are thrown down hard money.
They're paying for you know, a hotel for a week,
they're paying for flights there um, and they're you know
buying typically two tickets each, which you know is a
is a chunk, but you make it a vacation, you
make it a very special vacation for yourself, because not
only you enjoy this amazing island, you're getting to interact
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with artists because they're just wandering around two and you're
hearing them perform, and it's very laid back, amazing setting,
and you are doing something that is so so so
important by funding a little yellow schoolhouse. I mean, wow, Skip,
this is amazing. And you are the chairman of this,
like you really are, like the brains behind this. The
mastermind can go quite that far. I have no brains left,
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but I am the I'm the co chairman. There's a
fellow named Rob Goff who is really funny. We define
music business. I'm music and he's business. He knows nothing
about the music part and admits it, but he knows
everything about you know. I'll say, oh, I got this
great idea. We're gonna fly a hot air balloon and
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we're going to do this, and he's gonna go and
and he gets out as a little calculator and goes
they're not and we work well together. But he's he
lives on the island most of the year. Uh. Then
he lives in the Midwest in some place that starts
with an m uh. Uh, and he's he you know,
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he too does the business part, and I, you know,
do the talent and the promotion in the marketing and
all those things I enjoy doing. But we'll tell you what, no, no, no,
you you know you I'm about to like take it
on a different road. So you wrap up your thought
and I have another question for you. Have my thoughts
were wrapped up so long ago I have top the
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head with a hammer to get anything out of here. Nowadays,
how has this changed and affected your life? Well, I
will tell you it it has. It's sort of there's
a spiritual connection. You realize that everybody's got these talents,
you know that whatever they are. I mean, if you
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really think about you know, everybody has the talent. You know,
the people at the grocery store that check you out,
they have gifts. And when you find something that you
can apply your whatever it is that you can do
towards making the world better, it makes a the world better.
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It makes you a better person. And I have found
a sense of humility and I found a sense of
spirituality that I can get together with so many of
my great friends, and I said, We're gonna all go
down to Mexico and we're gonna make a difference. And
these kids lives are changed because of musicians going in
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there and playing and giving their gifts, their their talent.
They sing the songs they wrote, they performed for the crowds,
and that's what they give and these kids have a
chance at a normal life. Tangibly, you see it happening
from the school to the stage to its to their
life on the island, and you see that all of
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a sudden, they're lifted up and it's one of the
most incredible feelings ever. It really aligns your priorities. That's amazing, Skip,
that's really really true, amazing. I'm so sad that it
can't happen in person this year, but it will not
be stopped. This show must go on, and so it
is going to be a virtual experience. And you're so
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kind to have me host a tiny bit of it
and Michael and his Band of thousand Horses got to
play for a little segment of it. So tell everyone
how they can see it, what it's going to be
this year, and how they can give money, because I
know everyone listening is going to want to do that. Well,
there's there's the easiest way is to right now, just
go to Island Time Music Fest dot com Island Time
(26:35):
Music Fest dot com. All the information is there. And
we made a major decision just a few days ago
that instead of selling tickets, we're going to open it
up to the entire world. We're going to um allow
anyone that wants to watch the show, watch the show
and just make a donation. If your donation is five cents,
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we welcome it. If your donation is five thousand dollars,
we welcome it. Whatever you want to give, give what
you can give, what you what you want to give.
And through the generosity of so many people, uh the
Vinyl Lab that the new vinyl pressing plant here in
Nashville has given us an extremely generous donation to to
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towards the school and the production of the show. Uh uh,
Kicker Audio has given us an extremely generous donation towards
the production of the show. Um, this was very big.
Intercom Radio, which is one of the largest chains out there,
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is going to broadcast this show on their digital properties.
And then they've asked for us to cut it down
to one night's a four night show. We're gonna cut
it down to one night and they're gonna rebroadcast it
and ask for donations. Uh. One of the most exciting
parts is the production itself is by Sean Silva's tackle
(28:07):
Box Films that everyone knows from his history with with
Kenny Chesney, with Luke Bryant, with Jason Alden with his
mantle full of awards video director. Yes, he is the guy.
He's the guy to go to. And he is directing
the show. He's producing the show, his team is all
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and this the quality of the show, the sound, and
the visuals will be as good as any awards show
you've seen on television. And yeah, so it's open to
the world. I mean you don't have to you know,
you don't have to buy a hundred and fifty dollar
ticket to get in. All you have to do is
go to Island Time Music Fest dot com. It will
take you to NUGS TV and UH, and you can
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watch all four nights of the show and we encourage
you to give what you can. And that's what Maybe
when the world even opens back up, maybe this virtual
part will still stay a part of it. You know,
I think it will. I think it will because it's it.
There's a lot of people that just can't really jump
up and go to the island for a week in February.
They don't have the time off work. And it now
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gives everybody a chance to experience this incredible music event.
I mean, if you, I mean, we've got Vin Skale
this year, We've got thousand horrises. This year, we have Lee,
Bryce Runaway, June Uh, Kelly Pickler and Kyle Jacobs always host.
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They are the king and the Queen of the show
and they never stopped giving they every This is their
seventh year of hosting and uh, they are incredible and
their workforces all year long. They the festival would not
happen without them. They work all year to encourage their
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artist buddies to go to come to the show. They
you know they talk about the school. Yeah, they're just blessings.
Blackbird Smokes on the show this year. Fine, I love them. Yeah,
Lisa Loebe is on the show again. Here what I
want with Dawes and her double pay attention to I mean,
(30:19):
I know that whole song could anyway don't understand to
be really carefully here negative no, no, no, yeah, okay,
they got darn good. Thanks. Lisa should call me. I
can help her. Okay, well we'll put that together. But
it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great, and you
can also read, uh read about it up in an
(30:40):
upcoming edition of Monday Morning Intel. The magazine what's that?
Because now you have a magazine Skip Skip Bishop everyone
for everyone listening, you're probably gathering this Skip does everything.
He has done it all, does it all, and continues
to do it all. So you have a magazine as well.
We do we uh we We partnered up with some
really interesting people. Uh my business partner for the last
(31:03):
thirty five years as a felon in which wi that
everybody knows. We have a little company called Studio to
the Entertainment, and we partnered up with a guy named
Rich Meyer who invented a system called media Base, which
is a research monitoring system. He partnered up with a
guy named Steve Lahman who was the father of a
(31:25):
company called Premier Radio, which is just a massive organization.
And these guys are all about tech research. And we
put together Monday Morning Intel, which is a there's a
country version and a top forty version and the centerpiece
is a new chart. And in that chart, it's not
(31:47):
just an airplay chart. We take call out research. We
take retention scores, which is a technical thing too. That
sounds like nothing unless you're in the radio and mon
a during business, but it tells how long people actually
listen to a song, just like flipping through and skipping right.
We take streaming numbers on the video, We take audio
(32:10):
streaming numbers, We take airplay, and we put it all
into a new configuration and rank records as performance, not
just on airplane. Okay, where can people go to see this?
Monday morning Intel dot com. Okay, So the two big
websites that we need to remember for this podcast are
(32:30):
Island Time Music dot com, Island Time Music Fest dot com,
Island Time Music Fest dot com, and Monday Morning Intel
dot com. And one more, one more, if you don't
mind drop it, Island Time Auction dot com. Yes, tell
me about that autograph guitars, all sorts of great artist
(32:54):
memorabilia packages where you can win to fly out to
Mexico and stay on the island of East Luma. Harris
packages where you could you could come to Nashville for
a star studded weekend. There's so many great things that
are all donations from so many generous people that you
could win. But you'll see you on the show. Almost
(33:15):
every artist signs a guitar on camera, and those guitars
are going to be available on Island time auction dot Com.
Amazing skit, Bishop, you never see Amaze me. You're making
the world such a magical, amazing better place with your
(33:35):
existence in your incredible heart and how you bring people
together and how you give to the world. It is
truly an honor, a blessing to know you. You're one
of my most favorite people. As I said, you are
a magical unicorn in this world, and I feel so
blessed to have you as a dear, dear friend. Thank
you so much. That's so nice, and I feel right
(33:56):
back the same way, like I'm holding up a mirror
and I love you that much as will. But but
can I Can I stay married to Diane? Do I
have to marry like Jason Isabel? Only if you tell
me which one you'd pick for your number one husband
and then you can stay with Diane. No, you have to.
(34:16):
You have to pick one. You have to. I can't
do it. I love them all different ways, but I'm sticking.
I'm sticking with my normal, old, boring self. I'm just
kind of a white, straight guy. Okay, you're not normal,
old or boring. But okay, if you just want to
stay I've committed. I've committed for sixty eight years. I'm
(34:40):
staying in this lane. Okay, just might as well. Who
knows what happens in the future. I mean it's wide open.
You know, we'll keep me updated. If you decided to,
like go make a move on one of these guys,
let me know. Okay, I'll talk to you soon. Always
wrap with one question, which is leave your light. What
do you want people to know that love is all
(35:09):
that matters. There's nothing else. Possessions don't matter, property doesn't matter,
status doesn't matter, money doesn't matter, mansions crumbled. Love is
all that matters. Love is all that endures, Love is
(35:29):
all that is eternal. A Men's good Bishop, everyone, I
love you so much. Skip m by all right,
Host
Caroline Hobby
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