MEGHAN PATRICK: Getting Real About her Fierce Journey of Survival, Self-Worth, and Unfiltered Truth

Meghan Patrick’s Golden Child is the most raw, powerful album that she has ever created. It reveals her journey from surviving an abusive relationship to cutting ties with her toxic mother. Tracks like “Blood From a Stone” and “Whether You Love Me or Not” showcase her fight for self-worth, while “The Boy Who Cried Drunk” and “This Town” expose the harsh realities of love and chasing dreams in Nashville. With this album, Meghan not only shares her story but also raises awareness for domestic abuse survivors—proving she’s a force to be reckoned with.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Adam, Adam, carry line. She's a queen and talking and so.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
She's getting really not.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Afraid to feel so and so just let it flow.
No one can do were quiet like carry line. It's
sound of Caroline.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, well, Megan, I'm so excited to be here with you.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm excited to be here too. You have very cute dogs.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
So oh Ubie.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Oh yes, she knows the sucker when she sees one.
You love a dog.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
This is Meghan Patrick. Everyone yay Meghan, You're so awesome.
You you love a dog.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I love dogs. We have two? Well, yeah, we used
to have three. We just lost our ducky girl this year,
but we got two at home and I love, I love.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
But what kind of dogs you?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Cash is? Oh, I'm so sorry. How dare I stop
petting you to do this interview?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
All?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
She wants us to be loved?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I understand. Oh there's more. There's another one, ol.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
That's our neighbors dogs, Sophie. Okay, Sugar, we have a
little this is normal kind of a dog park hour.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Dogs in this neighborhood like to go meet and run
around Ruby Kby She.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Said, Okay, there they go play without me. Yeah, so
Cash is uh, he's like a pointer hound mix. He
is our biggest dog and he's just a huge baby
like he is my vulcro dog. If he could crawl
inside with my skin and live there, he would. And
then Annie, who is my girl that I got before

(01:41):
I moved to Nashville. She's like heine'z fifty seven. She's
got like everything red healer, some kind of like terrier,
maybe like Jack Russell shepherd. I don't know, I need
to do the the dog, yeah, whatever that is, Yeah,
I should just I know for sure, she's deaf. Got
red healer for sure. You know Ashlan Kraft, she's an

(02:04):
incredible artist and one of my good friends. And she
has a blue healer named Dolly, and Dolly and Annie
like when they get together, it's so obvious, like they're
the same. They have the same mannerisms. It's so weird.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
How cute is it when your dog minds a soul mate?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I love when my dog makes friends. She's no she
she was a rescue, so she's just like she's just
kind of she's got some walls up. You know. She
kind of has to let you know, off the bat
like Dolost with me. But then you know, once they
get past that, then she's great. I mean she her
best friend is my my manager, Randy's dog, Henry. They're besties.

(02:40):
So oh my god.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Okay, so I've just been crying for the past few
days listening to your album.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Sorry, holy shit, Megan.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, sorry, your face is so funny to be right.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Now, and you don't start off subtle now, you start
off with to me personally.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's gonna make me cry.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
One of the I think like one of the most
powerful songs on your album, Blood from a Stone. Holy shit,
I mean, like I feel the tears right now. How
hard was that song to write? And why did you
finally feel like it was time? Because I know you
said this was the album you've always wanted to make,
but it is so deeply personal and you talk about
some real trauma, like mother trauma.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, okay, I always try to figure out, Okay, where
do I start? You know, So the last few years
were incredibly challenging for me just on a personal level,
like career wise. You know, obviously the pandemic didn't help anybody.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
You know, did that kind of culture esturing and your
music in a massive way, and did it like send
you into depression. Yes, I don't think enough people talk
about that, because I know, as artists, it like literally
shut down your livelihood.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I was. I was like severely depressed during that time
because you know, I I had I was in a
great place in my career at the time. I had
just signed my US record deal, and I was so
So I initially was signed to Warner Music Canada.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
You Canadian?

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yes, How did.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
I not know that? I've just been deep diving on
you so hard? You're Canadian?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I am, yeah, well I am also American, though I'm
a dual citizen. My mom's American, dad's Canadian. So but yeah,
so I started off building my career in Canada. I
was signed to Warner and but I knew that, you know,
coming down to Nashville and wanting to play in the
US was always a part of the plan. And so

(04:40):
I had just signed with Riserhouse, which is my label
now here in the US, and you know, things were
we were ready to go. We were getting ready to
take a radio single or take a single to radio,
and everything was going great, and then COVID happened and
everything came to a screeching halt. You know, I couldn't
go back to Canada and play for almost two years,

(05:01):
which was all of my income.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
So you couldn't get back into Canada.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I couldn't even go back. I didn't even go see
my I couldn't even see my family for like over
a year. And then, you know, I was also in
the midst of a very contentious parting of ways with
someone that used to be on my team, and I
can't speak further on that. But this wasn't This was like,

(05:28):
no I'm talking about business. Yeah, it was financially and
emotionally devastating.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
And just like your life was crashing down. Everything you
had built. Yes, all of this work that you'd probably
put on for years was now like completely being strict
from me, you couldn't even get back to it.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, I mean it was the first Yeah, I mean
it was the first time in my whole life. I mean, this,
this dream has never been easy, you know, but to
love thank you, I feel you so hard on that,
But I've never it was the first time I've ever
allowed myself to even consider Hey, like, maybe this is

(06:05):
as far as I go, you know, like maybe I
maybe this is it. Maybe this is all I'm meant
for maybe I'm not good enough, you know, to keep
going because you know, my old label, it was it
was tough. But the president that had signed me, he
was my champion, and we had this great relationship, this
great working relationship and friendship. And then when he left,
a new president came in and they kind of just

(06:27):
and seeded a shelve me for like a year, I
couldn't put music out, and you know, it was like
it they just basically allowed me to believe that what
I was creating wasn't good enough.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Isn't that crazy How I could switch from one person
to the other so quickly, like someone who was all
the time, I guess champion, who was there for everything,
going to push it through to now like you're sort
of like an afterthought.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yep, that is devastating.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Happens to a lot of artists.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah it does.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
But you know all that to say, I mean, you
couldn't pay me enough to go back to that place,
because it was it was awful and I was really struggling.
But I cannot deny the fact that, in hindsight, I
kind of had to get to that sort of rock bottom,
really bad, really dark place to finally you know, I
kind of wallowed in it for a little bit, and

(07:12):
then I finally was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Like I think you kind of have to wallow for.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
A yeah, I mean, well I really have a choice.
I couldn't even leave the freaking house, you know, And
so it was like and then I finally was just like,
you know what, Like, what are you gonna do not
wake like wake up every day and not think about
songs and write down song ideas and sing melodies into
your phone and pick up your guitar and art you're
gonna go watch you know, your friends and your husband
play shows and not wish that you were on that stage.

(07:36):
Like that's never gonna happen, and so like figure it out,
you know. And so I finally, you know, I got
really intentional about my songwriting. I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna make use of this time. I'm gonna sit down
with my guitar every single day for at least an
hour and work on songs, whether it's just melodies, lyrics,
whatever it is. And if it doesn't turn into anything,
that's fine. If it does, great, but like turning it

(07:57):
into a true like job and being so intention and
all about it. You know, it helped me. You know,
it also got me more in tune with who I
was as a songwriter as opposed to just like co
writing all the time. And you know, kind of it
helped me also build up my confidence because you know,
I just I had been so conditioned, especially like the
way it is for women in this industry. It's like, well,

(08:19):
I don't want to seem like a diva. I don't
want to be a pain in the ass. I don't
want to you know it. And it kept me from
speaking up when I didn't like something in the room,
or like when it wasn't what I wanted it to be.
And I finally got to a place where I had
the confidence to say, you know what, guys, I don't
think this is it, or like we need to chase
something else.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Or that came from your every day by yourself. Yeah,
because you knew what you're trying to say and how
you wanted to say it, and you have the confidence
of doing it over and over again alone to know that.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
And a lot of that also came from going to therapy.
And I cannot stress this enough how life changing therapy
was for me so well, I mean it's it's when
I really kind of started unpacking things about my relationship
with my mother.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
So you do V and to your trauma. Oh yeah,
And I think that's a breaking point. You hit these
breaking points and you either get broken all the way
and you die, like literally almost all the way and
you just live in the pain and don't deal with it.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Or you face it and you faced it.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, So what did you discover?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
You know, I just it's interestingly enough, I didn't think
that's what I was going in there to talk about,
but it ended up being the one thing I needed
to talk about the most. And you know, I mean
I knew that, like we didn't at the time when
I started therapy, it was partially to do with her.
You know, our relationship was not great. I was really
struggling in that relationship. You know, my parents had split up,

(09:37):
my sister already hadn't had a relationship with her for years.
You know, I was kind of the last person hanging
on and trying to have some semblance of a relationship
with her. But you know, as I started opening up
and talking about it more, and I started reading some books,
and all of a sudden, I had labels for her
behavior and the things that she was doing. You know,
it was very narcissistic, very manipulative, very toxic, and just

(10:02):
putting me in this position. It was conditioning me to
believe that one that I was not, like, my value
was very to tied to my success, and if I
wasn't successful, then I wasn't inherently valuable. It conditioned me
to believe that like that it's normal in a relationship
to feel like you're responsible for the other person's feelings

(10:24):
and like it's your job to fix them, and that
you should keep giving them chances and keep forgiving them
no matter how many times they hurt you or you know,
do something that's just really damaging. And you know, that
led me to a lot of abusive relationships with men,
because you know, it was that guilt, that feeling of
guilt's like, well, if I leave them, then I didn't

(10:47):
save them, I didn't help them, and that makes me
a bad person. And that's how I felt about my
relationship with my mother, Like no matter how many times
I had that come to Jesus talk and said, hey,
like what you're doing is crazy, this is hurtful, this
is this is wrong, this is manipulative, you know whatever.
It just it just kind of landed on deaf ears
and nothing ever changed. And then when I started going

(11:11):
to therapy and realizing like, oh, like this is abuse,
this is abusive, this is not healthy, this is not normal,
it was like Pandora's box. It's like once you take
it out, you can't put it back. Once I saw
the situation for what it was, I couldn't see it
any other way. And I was really struggling with how
to continue having a relationship with her, knowing what I

(11:32):
knew at that point and knowing and now being so
acutely aware of how negatively it was affecting me and
my emotions and my sense of self. And so, you know,
I finally the breaking point for me when Mitchell and
I got engaged. You know, at that point we were
really barely speaking. You know, I was having a hard
time even being around her because it was like, how

(11:54):
I can't just pretend like everything's fine when it's very not.
And I ended up. I talked with my therapists. I
decided to write her a letter and basically just you know,
I laid all the cards on the table and said,
you know, this is these are all the things that
you've done that have been so hurtful and so damaging,
not just to me, but our whole family. And you've

(12:17):
never taken accountability, You've never apologized, and you don't seem
as if you think there's anything wrong, like there's always
an excuse for your behavior and it never changes. And
you know, I'm getting ready to start my own family,
and God willing, I'll have my own children one day,
and I'm working on becoming my best self and building
a healthy and happy marriage, and I just can't have

(12:42):
these I can't have these toxic relationships in my life,
regardless of who they are to me. You know, you
being my mother doesn't give you a free pass to
do the things that you do. And until you can
take some accountability and like get some help, like do
some real work and show that you want to change,
or even that you think there's anything wrong with the
things that you do, I cannot have you in my life.

(13:05):
And she never responded to and to this day that
she hasn't two years.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
She didn't come to the wedding.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
I mean I had said, you know, I had said
in the letter, you cannot come to the wedding either,
like until you know, and the day I wrote Blood
from a Stone, it had been three days since I
had sent that letter without a response, and I mean,
you know that was it was hurtful, of course, like yeah,

(13:37):
it's it's hurtful to know that your own mother would
rather not have a relationship with you at all than
just take some accountability and even fight for you at all.
But at the same time, it was kind of cathartic
and freeing for me because it's sort of just affirmed
what I already knew, and it was like it gave

(14:01):
me permission to like just move on and set the
boundaries that I needed to set, because I knew in
my heart that I had done everything I could to
to love her and and be there for her and
give her a million chances, and you know, it just
I knew that she wasn't going to change, and I
knew that there was no way for me to continue
on this path of like healing and becoming my best

(14:24):
self while still keeping a relationship like that in my life.
It was destroying just my sense of self and how
I viewed the world and how I viewed relationships and
how I viewed love. And so when I went in
that day, Karen Kazowski and Emily. I mean, they're they're
the best. I mean, Karen, is you know one of
my producers? No, these are my co roc so yes,

(14:47):
except except it's free. That's kind of hey, I might
make you some money if you listen to my feelings
for a while. And it was. It was funny because
when I first walked in, I mean I had written
down all these lyrics, but like I had, I didn't

(15:09):
know them that well. We'd written you got real honest,
real fast, yeah, and we had tried writing something else
and I just couldn't. I just couldn't get into it.
I couldn't get into it. And I just finally said
I was like, honestly, guys, I got to like, I'm
going through it right now. This is what's going on.
And I told them everything about the letter, like all

(15:30):
of it, and I just kind of spilled my guts
and they were like, well, do you want to write
about that? I was like, do you? Because I mean
that does sounds pretty depressing. And I was like, well,
I do have like some lyrics that I had written
down kind of just stream of consciousness, you know, and
I started reading them out and Emily looks at me,
she goes, Okay, well we're writing that, and she's like,

(15:54):
and we were trying to write a truck song. Come on, Megan,
and they just they gave me so much support and
love and just like gave me the space to say
what I needed to say the way that I wanted
to say it. And yeah, I mean it was. It
was the first time I even said a lot of
those things out loud to another person, let alone like

(16:16):
put it in a song. And you know, we recorded
it and I thought it was incredible, but I was
nervous about like turning it in and what people were
gonna think of it, not just you know, emotionally and
like the content of it, but also just like as
a song, because it was really different, you know. And meanwhile,

(16:36):
I'm in the thick of like, wait, you got a
radio single and it's like, well, it probably ain't this song,
you know. But I turned it in and everybody was
just like holy shit, like it's real. This is not
only just you know, so wow, like so raw and
emotional and vulnerable, but like one of the best written

(16:56):
songs you've ever turned in. And then you know, Randy,
my manager, and I started that conversation of like, she's like,
is this something you want to release? And I think
for me that song part of why I put it
first on the record is you know one the title
for the album came from that song and the picture
of your album cover, Oh thank you.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
All your accolades, you're sitting up. It was, Yeah, I've
made so many feelings because I just see your little
girl and like I hear, I'm sorry, I'm such an
emotional person.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's okay, but I hear your little.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Girl and like you went back for her. You went
back and.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Got her mm hmm. And that's so awesome.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
That's I mean, that's and he made peace with it all.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Like I mean, not that it does.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I'm sure it doesn't hurt, but like, yeah, you identified
everything that was done wrong to that little girl and
like you're she's just like you're there for her, and
that's so powerful.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
It was, you know it it changed everything for me
just as a person and as an artist. I knew
that I was tired of chasing what everyone else that
I needed to do to be successful. I was tired
of being told tell me about it. You know, I
was tired of being told what parts of me were
and weren't marketable, and what to hide and what to show,
what to, you know, being told not to like we're

(18:15):
talking about this before we started, you know, about age,
Like I was told to lie about my age early
on in my career.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
When I moved to Nashville twenty years ago, I heard,
if you don't make it by the time you're thirty,
hang it up, because if you're thirty years old, there's
no way you're gonna make it. Like, there's not a
market for you.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
You have to look a.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Certain way, be a certain way, act a certain way presently.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Because women over thirty don't buy concert tickets.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And all I'm trying to say is I told you
this earlier. I just had twenty on two who's in
her thirties, and I'm like, the songs that are coming
out of women in their thirties are so real and raw,
and you have experienced so much and you've had time
to process it, and you have wisdom to share, and
you're so like you're in this level of just self

(18:56):
certainty that you cannot have in your twenties. I mean,
maybe some people who started off very young going through
things and have evolved can, but like for most people,
it takes a while to get that kind of clarity
and process what's happened to your life?

Speaker 4 (19:10):
What happened in your life?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, and you know that that's really it's what it was.
It was kind of like like I just I've walked
through a door I'd never walked through before, and I
wasn't going to go back out. You know, I wasn't
gonna go back to who I was before. I wasn't
gonna just you know, have all these big dreams and
ideas just to have them crushed by somebody that doesn't
know anything more than I do about music. I mean,

(19:34):
I'm thirty seven years old. I've been playing in bands
since I was thirteen. I have studied music, I've studied opera,
I've studied jazz, like I am a trained musician, and
I've been you know, touring and playing for decades. So
what does Why am I always looking around the room
waiting for somebody else to validate what I do as

(19:54):
if they as if they know more than I do.
They don't. They definitely don't know more about who I
I really am and what makes me special? You know,
they they didn't they weren't interested in that. They were
just trying to market me and whatever was working for
everyone else. And it's like, well, I'm not everyone else,
and it feels like this, this whole record was just
me trying to kind of like take back that power

(20:18):
and take back the narrative of who I really was,
you know, or sorry, who I really am versus who
I was. And I'm look, it's not to say that
anything I put out before wasn't wasn't ever honest or real.
There were always glimmers of it, and I think I
was always as like honest and authentic as I was
capable of being at that time. But again, it's like,

(20:38):
you cannot truly love yourself until you know yourself, and
I didn't really know myself yet, and I definitely didn't
love myself because I had this idea in my head
that I couldn't love myself until I had achieved certain
things or unless I was, you know, valuable in other
ways to the people around me besides just literally like
being myself and you being you and that's enough. Yeah,

(21:02):
And you know I have to I have to like
shout out to my to my manager Randy, because she
was a big part of that too. You know. She
she was one of my best friends before we started
working together, and so she knew me, she knew all
my stuff, you know, and she was one of the
first people that I was working with that was like, no,
you should be I want you to be you. Let's

(21:24):
figure out how we how we make that translate into
the world we're living in with you know, TikTok and
social media and all of that, because I really struggled
with that as well. I just I hate social media,
and you know, I think you know, we all do.
I don't think too many people actually do genuinely enjoy
having you know, as as someone who just like I said,
I'm I'm a musician and a songwriter, like I don't, Yeah,

(21:47):
like I don't. I didn't want to learn. I don't
want to learn how to do that stuff. I don't
want to spend you know, time doing that. That's not
that's not that doesn't bring me joy, you know what
I mean. But but I do it because I also
have a business to run and that's part of it.
And Randy has helped me find ways to you know,
make content that still you know, helps me be creative
in a way. That's fulfilling to me, and that feels

(22:10):
like authentic to me and doesn't make me like cringe
at myself, you know. But yeah, I mean that that
song was the catalyst for everything that came after. It
was like it set a new bar for me, Like
if it's not this level of real, if it's not
this honest, if it's not this vulnerable, then I don't
need to write it, you know, And I don't need

(22:31):
to put it out and I don't need to I
have a totally different I have a totally different set
of requirements for the things that I create.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Now, what are they? What were they?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
What are they?

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Well, before it was like listening to you know, labels
and other management about you know, well so and so
is doing this, this is what's working right now? You
need to do that. You need to not talk about this,
but you should talk about that. And and the only
set of rules for me now is like do I
actually does this feel honest to me? Does it feel
real to me? Is it going to have an impact

(23:06):
on my listeners? Is it going to help other people?
Because for me, you know, I also I changed what
my idea of success was, like what success looks like for.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Me, Okay, what was it? What is it?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Well, before it was you know, radio hits, it was awards.
You know, it was the the kind of industry accolades
and I did. I got a lot of those when
I was in Canada, and I'm very grateful for them.
And it was really fun winning those awards and going
to the after party and you know, everybody's praising you
and everything. But then you see how quickly those same

(23:38):
people don't give a shit about you when you're not
winning anymore, and you realize how fleeting and how actually
kind of invalu like, how not valuable those things really are.
And I also, you know, recognized how much I had
fixated on those things in my life, thinking that they
were the only things that made me valuable. It all
stems back to that, Yeah, And it's like, you know,

(23:59):
I always any in anything I'm doing, and any endeavor,
I always am thinking big picture, big, big, big picture,
zoom all the way out to like when I'm like
old and like it's about to be my time to go,
what are the things that I'm gonna think about? What
will I look back on? What is going to you know,
what will my legacy comprise? Of what are the things

(24:21):
that people are going to remember about me and say
about me when I'm gone and what I created. I'm
not going to think about the money I made or
the awards on the shelf or you know, and people
aren't going to say, oh, that Megan Patrick, she sure
made a lot of money, Like why would I care
about that?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
No?

Speaker 3 (24:37):
I want to write songs, you know. It's why I
wrote songs like Blood from a Stone and Boy who
Cried Drunk and Whether you Love Me or not? Because
I have a platform and I have a voice, and
I believe that God gave me these gifts for something
more than just making a career out of it. I
believe that He gave me these gifts to help others
because I think that I have a talent outside of

(24:58):
just singing, to to motivate and inspire people and make
them want to be their best selves, and just leading
by example of like, hey, you know, if I can
do this for myself, if I can, you know, rise
above all these things that have happened to me, then
you can too, and opening up the conversation, especially, you know,

(25:21):
like with Blood from a Stone, it's it's a very
kind of like there's a lot of like stigma around
especially I think daughters that that no longer have relationships
with their mothers. You know, it's like I feel like
the daughters are expected to sort of be become the
caretaker of like their parents as they get older, and
like you're you're always the one that's the oldest daughter, right,
You're supposed to take care of everybody else. And you know,

(25:44):
I there's a lot of judgment that comes from people
who haven't grown up in like an abusive situation, and
they're just but it's your mother, Like how could you
just like do that, Like you're you're a bad person,
Like how could you just do that to your own mother? There?
And and it's it comes down to this this simple
question of like, okay, well have you ever met like

(26:06):
an asshole, like someone who is not a good person
who abuses other people? And the answer is like, of
course yes for most people. And it's like, okay, well
that could be someone's mother, father, brother, sister, you know whatever.
Like being blood related is not is not doesn't give
the excuse to to abuse the people closest to you.
And at the end of the day, like if that's

(26:28):
the person who is hurting you the most, like why
should why should you feel bad about setting those boundaries,
and that conversation needs to be had about how how
damaging it is. And I feel like there are a
lot of people in my generation because therapy and mental
health has become a bigger conversation. You know, they are
going to therapy and going, oh, actually, the most damaging

(26:51):
thing in my life is a parent, And you know,
I think it just needs to be normalized that it's
okay for you to set those boundaries and not have
that relationship with a family member if it's if it's
damaging to you. So I just hope it opens up
that conversation, and I hope it gives permission to a
lot of other people who have been through what I've

(27:14):
been through or where I'm at. I hope it gives
them permission to move on. And I'm not saying that
it's not still painful for me, Like, of course, it is,
like she still exists, you know, she still is my
the person who gave birth to me. And there are
moments where you know, something big happens, or you know
moments where you're like, I'm going to call all the

(27:35):
people I love and tell them about this moment, and
I have that fleeting moment of I'm going to call her,
and then I remember, like that's that doesn't exist for me.
But also the person I wish I could call doesn't
exist either. That's I have to remember that like that,
the person I the conversation, the conversation and the moment
I'm wishing to have doesn't exist for me. It's not

(27:57):
in the cards for me. But that doesn't mean that
I you know that God hasn't provided me with so
many other people that that fill that helped to fill
that hole. My amazing mother in law, you know, my stepmom.
Like I am, I am incredibly blessed with so many
people that love me for just who I am, regardless
of the money I make or the success that I have.

(28:19):
I have, you know, surrounded myself with good people that
love me for all the right reasons, and so I
just I keep my focus on that and not what
I don't have. I mean, some people don't even get
like one good parent. I have an awesome dad, you know,
and we're very close.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
So did your parents divorce young? Mm hmmm, so you're
your your dad was in there in the How was
that because you wrote a song called iron Man, which
could not portray your dad more oppositely than your mom. Yeah,
so they were married like thirty five years. How so
how did that separation happened where your dad was so
awesome and your mom was so toxic?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Well, I think he I think he took the brunch
of lot of it. He tried to shelter us and
shield us from a lot of things, you know, and
he stayed as long as he did for us, you know,
for me and my sister. You don't want to leave you,
you know, and also like he was also an abusive relationship,

(29:17):
you know. So yeah, and we've all had to do
a lot of healing, my dad, my sister, me, But thankfully,
you know, we've been able to do that together. We've
had a lot of long talks and conversations, and you know,
I can always call them when I'm going through something
you know that pertains to her. I mean, obviously putting

(29:39):
out this song, you know, I didn't really know how
that would be received or if something was going to happen,
you know. I still she still hasn't spoken to me
or reached out. She does other things though, like you know,
before before the song came out. Yeah, she would like
comment on stuff like on social media, like when I
got Yeah, like when I got my first gold record,

(30:00):
you know, she left a comment like, Oh, just so
proud of you, honey, like love you. And it's like
you hadn't be spoken in a year even after that email. Yes,
and it's like and that's when I realized, Oh, she
doesn't she doesn't really care about being my mom, but
she still wants to be Megan Patrick's mom. And that
just further, you know, just further spoke to the whole

(30:23):
the golden child thing. She was still trying to hang on.
She thought that she could just kind of hang on
to the pieces of me that that you know, reflected
well on her, like oh, well I'm successful, so by proxy,
so is she, you know, and but without actually having
a relationship with me. And that was really that was
really hurtful, you know, that was that was a step

(30:45):
beyond It was like worse than the silence, because it
just goes to show like just how much she really
doesn't care, you know, how any of that affects me,
and she will do whatever she wants to do for herself.
And you know, there's been a lot of things that
she's done where she has sort of peripherally tried to
be around me or attach herself to me without ever

(31:07):
actually acknowledging the letter or acknowledging the issue, you know,
at the root of everything. And so for me, and
I'm sure there's some people that would say, oh, that's
you know, she's just trying to reach out in her
own way. No bull shit, that's no. If she wants
a relationship with me, she can start with I'm sorry,

(31:29):
and let's talk about all the ways that I've heard
you and how we fix that and how I can
do better. That conversation has never been had. Those words
have never come from her, so you know, it's it's
just I'm not going to the offer.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Still stands if she would come to you with that.
I saw Jay Shatty intro do an interview with jelly Roll,

(32:04):
and I mean jelly Roll how he's just like modern
day Jesus up there, I mean, just saving people with
his music, like you like, it's such a great message.
But he said something and it hit me so profoundly,
and I feel this way about your mom, And he said,
I no longer am like angry with people you know,
I don't know what he said exactly, So he said

(32:25):
the questions he's asking, he's asking someone now, who is
able to do these really painful, toxic, awful things to
another human? Is what happened to them? Do you do
you know what happened to your mom? Like?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Have you been able to get into her story?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Because something must have damaged her so terribly to be
able to do that, you know, and not to give
her like a free card, but like there's something in
her story that was.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, I mean, that's not for me to speak right
right right, I know that's you know, whatever happened to
her that made her the way she is. I I have,
you know, I have empathy for that. I hate that
for her, But for me, the bottom line is that
at some point, you either continue the cycle or you

(33:12):
break the cycle. I totally I chose to break the
cycle and she didn't. Yep. And it is not my
responsibility to continue to put myself in harm's way simply
because she also went through something.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I could not agree with you more. And I think
that's a big difference.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I can have, well, I can wish her well from afar,
I can hope that she might one day get the
help that she needs and acknowledge. I don't think that
she will. I think that she is a full on narcissist,
and I think that she will be the way that
she is forever. I don't. I don't think there's a
relationship to be had there. My I don't. My trust

(33:51):
is completely blown. You know that, even if she were
to try and come to me in earnest, it would
be really really hard for me to take what she
was saying at face value. And I think, especially after years,
literal years, it's kind of like, well, that windows sort
of closed for me. And you know what, that's fine

(34:12):
if people judge me for that, or if they think that's.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Harsh, I don't think it's harsh at all. I think
what you are doing is so so wise and so hard,
and it, like you said earlier, our generation is much
more aware of mental health.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah. Well, and I want to be clear, like, I'm
not talking about this or her. I didn't put out
that song out of spite or because I hate her,
or because I want to hurt her or anything like that.
It's just not even about her. It's about me healing,
and I don't owe her, you know, protection from what

(34:49):
she did to me. It is not my job to
protect her, you know, and protect the person that hurt me.
I am allowed to tell my story and to talk
about my feelings and my experience, and I'm allowed to
decide what is best for me and what isn't. And
anybody that wants to judge me for that, that's your progative.

(35:12):
But if you can't be bothered to, you know, talk
to me about it, hear my side of the story,
consider my side, then that's fine. Like you're just not
someone that's going to be in my life. I just,
for the first time in my life, I'm going to
actually choose myself and protect myself because the reality is
that people that are are meant to be in your
life and that are deserving of your love, you don't

(35:34):
have to protect yourself from them.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
So so true. I'm telling you again, I am beyond inspired.
I'm proud of you because what you did is so
hard to heal your young self that was wounded, to
learn to love yourself, to get out, not just like
starting with abusive relationship from your mom, but then like
boyfriends and dating, breaking that cycle, analyzing it, examsaming it,

(36:00):
rewiring yourself and then finding good true.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Love like your self worth.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
That is such hard work that people don't want to do.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, it's just not it's nobody's responsibility to fix people
that don't want to fix themselves.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Truth.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Like I tried. I had so many conversations. I had
so many very frank, direct conversations of like, hey, you
did this. It's really messed up, it's really hurtful. These
things that you're doing are wrong, And then she just
would continue doing them because she doesn't care. She will

(36:40):
do what she wants at whatever expense, and then we'll
play the victim, you know, and gaslight and you know,
until all of a sudden the tables are turned. And
now all of a sudden, I feel bad and feel like, okay,
well now I need to help her. Now I need
to comfort her when I'm the one who came in
the first place saying hey, you did this thing to me,
you know, and I just I didn't want to be

(37:02):
in that cycle anymore. So I'm just not going to
my time and my energy, like in your family that
you're building, your marriage, your life, your career, that's so precious.
There are people in my life that are deserving of
all the energy I was giving into a one way
street with her, and I just wasn't willing to continue

(37:23):
to give and give and give when no one was
pouring back into my cup. So you know, it's just
it is what it is, and it's always a little sad,
but that's life.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
That's life. How has it felt releasing this child? Has
it felt like you have released all of that that
was trapped inside of you?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah? I mean it just it's cathartic. Yeah, like really
cathartic and really like at peace. You know. I was
literally just on the phone with Randy when I pulled
up here, and you know, talking about our goals for
next year and and you know when it comes to
touring and what we're what we're chasing, and like my

(38:02):
whole mantra is like I will only go where I'm
wanted and loved and appreciated and valued.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I am tired of trying to convince people of my
worth a man. Either you see it or you don't.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
That amen, preach times reach on the mountaintops. I feel
the same way in a different area, just like a
different field. But it's like I'm so done with trying
to be what somebody wants me to be. And my
husband's the same way. He's going to be indw thousand horses,
just like been through it. And I've also realized if
you're not a true artist, you're gonna get out. And
one of the first knocks that you get if you

(38:36):
hang in there all this time, like to where you are,
it's because you're a real artist and you really have
to do this.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
And then you feel like I'm just getting started in
a lot of you.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I feel like you are like this golden child is
like the birth of like the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
That's what it feels like to me too.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
And again I'm not not to, you know, downplay the
other music that I've released, because there were always like
these glimmers of who I really was. But you know,
I wasn't even ready to tell my whole story yet,
and now I am, And.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Now I just laid the foundation.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I just know what
I want moving forward. For the whole making of this album,
I made myself a promise that I would not compromise
for the first time in my entire career. I would
have these ideas, I would write these songs, I would
I had a whole vision, Like after Blood from a Stone,
it was like, Okay, I can see it now. The

(39:31):
album's going to be called Golden Child, and I'm going
to tell the whole story of starting out as the
Golden Child and how that brought me to be the
woman that I am today, and how that led me
to all the choices that I made, good or bad.
You know, yes, it made me very ambitious, It made
me very hard working, It made me tough, you know,

(39:52):
it made me it kept me moving forward, but it
also held me back at the same time, you know, emotionally.
And it held me back because I was framing everything
from a place of like, Okay, how what do I
need to do to be successful? Instead of what do
I need to do to make great art? What do

(40:15):
I need to do after that to then make sure
it gets to the right people. Because that's the other
thing too, when it comes to fans, like if I'm
not for you, that's fine, then I'm not for You're
not for me, So just like scroll on, you know,
like I don't. I'm not trying to chase anything anymore.
I'm not I'm done trying to convince people that I'm

(40:36):
worthy because I know that I am. I know that
what I've created has value and that it's good and
that it's honest, and it will find its way to
the right people. You know.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
It was it was.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
It was a challenge of trusting myself and also trusting
God and truly having real faith faith for the first
time in my life. I am I'm a control freak.
I'm a Nobody's going to show up and save me,
so I'm going to have to do it myself. And
I got in my own way a lot. And this
time around, I really I listened. I prayed on it.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I did you let God?

Speaker 3 (41:11):
I too. I let God teach me. I'll let him
speak to me. I there were signs everywhere if you
want to look for him, if you want to pay attention,
there are signs everywhere and things. And as soon as
I let go of a lot of those things, things
fell into place more organically and easily than they ever
had before.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Right people flowed in right.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
And that's how I knew every time I needed something,
he would provide and all I had to do. I mean, yeah,
I was working hard and working towards something that whole
time too. But you know, and then when push came
to shove, and push came to shove many times in
the process of making this record and not not you
know to I have a great label, I have a
great team, but at the end of the day, we're
all just trying to figure it out. Nobody really has

(41:51):
the answers, so we're all taking the information that we
have and everything's changing, trying to eat these days too
right and trying to come up with a plan, you know,
our best laid plan. And there were times where I
had to be comfortable with being the only one who
understood what I was trying to do.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Oh, but that's a new level of confidence.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
Yes, I mean, but that's terrifying.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
But that gives me excitement because that is overwhelming for
me to hold that much power, because like, what if
it goes wrong, what if it's not right? All these
but also you now know enough that it's the way
it has to be. It's your vision and you have
to hold true to it.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Well yeah, because and also I mean, if I'm gonna
die on a sword, it better be mine, because.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Now I know what that sword is.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Yeah, And I know, like there were just too many
times where in the past where you know, I got
so close, and then somebody would come in with their
doubts and their fears and they're, well, I don't know,
nobody else was really doing it this way, or I
don't get it, or I don't know if that's gonna
work or it's too risky, and then I would always
kind of go, uh, okay, all right, well then yeah,
I guess let's you know, fine, we'll do this. And

(42:52):
I thought that that was me being you know, business savvy, like, okay, well,
I just need to listen to these people they know
more than me, and I'm like, no, they don't. And
you know, I promised myself that I would follow my
gut and I did, and I knew and all of
that led to when the record was finished. I knew
that it was finished.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
I knew that it was right.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
How do you know?

Speaker 2 (43:14):
It was told the whole story.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
I left the studio, and you know, when I got
all the mixes back, and I spent I mean, I
spent weeks figuring out what order I was going to
put them in. I feel like it goes in chronological
order of your life is meant to be listened to?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Which they end is Mitchell, which I love that's right.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
So it's like, you know, you start with where all
of the pain and the trauma is rooted. It's in
my mother in that relationship, and then how that translated
into abusive relationships with men, and then having to learn
that lesson more than once, more than twice, like quite
a few times, and then finally gaining enough self awareness
like Okay, yes it is not my fault that these

(43:52):
men have abused me. But there's accountability here in the
fact that I continue to pursue relationships with these a
certain type of man, broken men and abusive men, and
feeling like, well, I can fix them.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
And it's maybe your job to fix them.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
It's my job to fix them if I don't love
this person through Because like you said, everybody's got a story.
Every serial killer most likely had something literally went through
abuse in childhood. Absolutely not everybody becomes a serial killer,
And lots of people are abused in childhood and they
don't get they don't go on to abuse their children.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
You make the choice, That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
There has to be accountability at some point where you
take control of your life and your emotions and how
you treat others and how you let others treat you
and you know it go. It shows that whole journey
of finally getting that self awareness that's your whiskey, you know,
that's kind of where the ooh, okay, girl, you kind

(44:50):
of keep doing this, this might be you a little
bit and a little bit, you know, and then where
you were the victim rightly so, and like you could
have stayed that way forever victim mentality, but then you switch,
you check yourself. I stopped chasing that type of man
you had awareness, and then I spent a lot of
time figuring out who I was and not being with
any kind of man.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
What songs were those?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Do you feel like? What? I mean?

Speaker 3 (45:12):
You know, like it was like every dog and then
we get into like what shoulder and it was kind
of just like getting into trouble and just partying and
you know, going out, and then it was like, no,
you know, actually I don't want any of that anymore.
I want to be at home, stoned alone, doing what
I want. You know, you don't like that, you don't
like roll with my vibe? Then you don't. Then I'd
rather be by myself because I learned the very important

(45:32):
lesson of that The only thing worse than being by
yourself and lonely is being with somebody who makes you
feel lonely. And that, you know, that's where the journey
of you know, kind of self love and learning myself
other side of twenty five of just you know that
I went through all that and now I'm on the
other side and like I just I care less about
the things that don't matter and more about the things

(45:52):
that do. And then you know, incomes Mitchell for the.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Whole back half of the record, Mitchell, because I mean,
I love that Mike.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
When I'm at the ten roof, I mean a good
old Nashville.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Bar, yep. I walked in wearing camo and he was
just like you were seeing her in here before. Who's that?
You know?

Speaker 4 (46:20):
How'd you know he was different?

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I didn't right away And I actually specifically thought he
was going to be just like everybody else.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
You did, Yeah, why did you think that?

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Because he was an artist? And I mean, I don't
know how well you know my husband. He's very charming,
and sometimes it's like, Okay, are you like cute, wholesome
charming or are you going to ruin my life charming?
You know? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
And so I know that is a trick.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
It's a trick that I was a little wary at
first because he was very charming, and you know, but
it was I think what did it for me is that, honestly,
in the beginning, I kind of was like trying to
push him away a little bit. I was kind of
testing him a little bit to see, you know, how
much he'd put up with how bad do you how
much do you like me? You know. But he didn't

(47:05):
like he didn't get mad, he didn't it wasn't like
offended by it. He just had this sort of this
sort of calm confidence of like it's okay, I get it,
you've been put through the wringer. You'll you'll figure it out.
I'll be here, you know.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
And he loved you from the start, I think, so.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
I think it's what he would tell you. Yeah, you know,
but he just he just was so steady, and he
just kept showing up, and he kept showing up, and
you know, and then we went through a lot. I mean,
we've survived a freaking pandemic. You know. I went when
I went through, you know, getting dropped from my record
label and going through this whole contentious you know, parting

(47:43):
of ways with my old team that cost me every
freaking dollar that i'd saved. And then some you know,
it was hell. I was miserable. I was having panic
attacks on the kitchen floor and him holding me and
just saying like, I got you. It's gonna be okay,
Like you got this, You're gonna be okay, you know,
and he just kept showing up, and we kept showing
up for each other. And it was not always easy,

(48:03):
you know, And that's why you know, it starts with
with dying alone, where it's like that was me. I
was like, you know what, I don't need a guy
always dialogue. I'm going to have some dogs, I'll have
some horses, I'll have some land. I'll just you know,
write songs and and just live my life, you know.
And I was like convinced that that was going to
be totally my life. And then he showed up and

(48:25):
convinced me that you know, oh, okay, maybe I do
want this, and you know, and then it's then it's
talking about it was the I was also on my
journey of of my faith with God and and you know,
kind of getting to a place of recognizing like the
the ways that that Mitchell healed me, and the ways

(48:45):
that God healed me, and how the two of them
together kind of brought me to this new place and
and kind of brought me to this new healed version
of myself in so many ways. And then it's you know,
letting go of you having trying to figure out how
two artists make it work. When we both have separate

(49:06):
dreams that keep us away from each other. We don't
get a lot of time together. We're like two ships
passing in the night sometimes, you know, we're in different
time zones and we're tired, and then we get home
and we're both exhausted. And if sometimes it feels like
the person you want to love the most, like you
have nothing left in the tank by the time you
get home to them, and making sure that you dig
deep and find it so that you can love them
the way they deserve to be loved and take care

(49:28):
of them, you know, and you guys are stretched. It's
it's a lot, but you know, we've figured out how
to make sure that we are putting our relationship as
a priority, you know, and how to find that balance,
and you know, and that brings us to like the
sweet spot, which to me. That is what a real
love song is about. It's not just like the butterflies

(49:51):
and the you know, the the honeymoon phase and everything's
great and all you're so fun and you get me
and you love me. Let's yeah. No, Now, it's about
like we've been through some things. We've come to the
edge and just barely been able to pull each other
back and still make it work. And that's what real
love is. It's not just meeting and falling in love
and having things in common and having fun and being romantic.

(50:14):
It's choosing each other over and over and over again
and saying, no matter what, that you are going to
fight to get back to that sweet spot. Equally, both
of you are going to continue to do that and
fight for that relationship. That's what real love is.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
That is real love.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, And that is why it is so freaking powerful
that you, as a thirty seven year old woman, wrote
your life story and your love story and your pain
and your growth and the whole thing because you have
lived to tell the telle and you are sharing it
and you are giving people who don't know how to
express this words. You're giving people a place to say, like,

(50:55):
oh my god, I see me and the songs, and
that's what I feel like we are missing so much,
which is a mature woman singing her songs and you're
still hot as shit. I mean, you're horder than anybody.
It's like, I'm like, oh my god, you are who
I want to hear because I hear you, and I
hear a real life. I hear a real story. I
hear someone who's weathered the storms. And you are wise,

(51:17):
like you have wisdom to share with people, and you've
gone through the desert and the jungle and the valley
and you've been on the mountaintops and you've been through
it all, and here you are to share this with people,
and it is so powerful, Megan, truly, it is so far.
I cried the entire time I listened to your album,
like being sorry, but I just but you know why,
because I know every song is real.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
I can feel it. I know every single song is
your story.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I know everything you're saying is so important and it's
such an important piece of who you are. And I
can feel it healing me because I can feel you
healing you. And the fact that you're sharing that so vulnerable,
so vulnerably, is so unbelievably powerful. I think it gets
people permission to say, like, I've had some really ugly
shit happened to me too, you Like, I've had some

(52:01):
really awful things that I've gone through that I have
been so ashamed to talk about. But here you are,
this beautiful singer married to another awesome singer, like on
this platform saying here it is all raw.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Well, I think too, like there's there's a lot of
songs too that are that talk about the harder stuff
but also kind of like glorifying it and staying stuck
in it and and being unable to move past it,
you know. So I'm just like, where's where's the healing,

(52:33):
where's the redemption? Where's the redemption? Like, you know. And
that's not to say that there isn't a place for
those songs too, and that you know, I've written those
songs of just being stuck and not knowing the way out.
But I know the way out now, and I hope
that my music is going to help other people find
the way out, because I mean, I used to think

(52:54):
that I needed to be this like tortured artist to
make great music, to make great art, I'm tired. I'm tired.
I don't want to. I don't want to do that,
like I don't want to do that anymore. I want
I want to heal, and I want to feel good
about myself and I want to feel confident and rooted
in what I'm creating. I mean, with this record, it

(53:14):
was like I didn't have that same anxiety before I
put it out of like God, I hope this is
gonna work, or like what if people don't don't like it?
I mean, it just it just didn't matter if it
if some people didn't like it, it didn't matter. I
just looked at it as like, Okay, if this doesn't
do the things that I wanted to do, that just

(53:36):
means that's just not my path. That there's something else
greater out there for me. There that there is, because
to me, it's like, man, if this ain't it, I
don't know what it is, you know, I'm just like, if
this ain't it, I don't know what is, but I'm
pretty sure this is it.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
You know, how have you felt since releasing it?

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I mean it's it's been great. I mean the it's
been you know, it's been different than releasing it the
other album, because I have you know I have done
a lot of a lot of interviews and podcasts, and yeah,
I mean it's not always easy to just jump right
into like the worst thing the things that have ever
happened to me, But tell.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Me about your childhood trauma.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah, and let's get right into it.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
I mean that is is like hello, nice to meet you, Megan.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
But at the same time, it's like, yeah, sometimes it is.
It is you know, emotionally taxing to dig into those
things you know over and over again. But it's also,
like I said, it's it feels freeing too, feels it
feels good to finally say all the things I want
to say, and to feel like I can be completely
honest and talk about as much as I want to

(54:37):
or not in any given interview. It's up to me. Now,
I don't have anybody telling me what I can and
can't say anymore, and so that's you know, that's entirely
up to me. And and that's a great feeling. And
again it I do feel and maybe this is still
part of me needing to heal more, but like I
do feel a bit of a responsibility to my listeners

(54:59):
to be that person because I know that I can
be that person that is going to make them feel
seen and understood and and hopefully inspire them to you know,
find that healing.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
I think that's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
I mean that that feels like a beautiful kind of
burden that's been put on me with the gifts that
I've been given. Like, you know, gifts come with responsibility,
and to me, my responsibility is to be as honest
and open as I can be if it's going to
help others. I mean, you know, I had the opportunity
to you know, we turned my album release party into

(55:37):
a fundraiser and it was it just worked out perfectly.
You know. We did it for the first time last
year because October is Domestic Violence Awareness month, and so
we were trying to figure out obviously we wanted to
celebrate Golden Child, and but we're like, Okay, we can't
do like two different events in Nashville in October. That'd
be crazy. And I was like, and Randy was like, well,

(55:57):
why don't we just make it all one thing will
celebrate the album, and you know, and I love the
idea of being able to use all this buzz and
energy around the release and channel that into helping others
and channel that into helping women just like me who
have you know, been through what I've been through it.
But also maybe it didn't have the resources that I had.

(56:20):
You know, I had resources, I had somewhere to go,
I had the opportunity to get therapy. You know, I
had people around me that protected me and that helped
me get out. Not every woman has that, you know.
So we were able to turn that and that was
so fulfilling to me that night will be it's gonna

(56:41):
be hard to beat that, regardless of what accolades this
this album gets, it's going to be hard to beat
the feeling of that night, of packing that room out,
of raising that money, of having fans come up to
me and share their stories and tell them how much
it impacted them and that it's given them hope. I mean,
what's better than.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
That, Nothing your are, nothing that you created from your life,
is helping others heal and healing yourself.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I mean, that's as good as it gets.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
I mean, there has to be there has to be
more than just like money and awards, because it's again
it's like, I mean, that's everything so political, you know,
and like bought and paid for in so many ways,
and like, there's a lot of things that are out
of your control as an artist in terms of how

(57:32):
you get that success and how you get ahead. But
what is in your control is the relationships you create
with your fans and and putting them first, because they
are not the industry. They are not They're not a
love you today, don't care about you tomorrow based on
your success. They they just they've come. They find your music,

(57:54):
They spend their harder money on tickets to your show
and t shirts and CDs, and they come and sing
every word because they love you and they believe in you.
And that's not going to change just because the industry
decides you're not cool anymore, you know, And so those
things are real and that's what I hold on too.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Freaking love it, Megan, You're so inspiring. This album is phenomenal.
Thank you phenomenal, I know how I mean, Just You're
it's incredible that you could do this, that you could
create this work of art and be so real and raw.
Is there anything that we need to know coming up
that you want to tell anybody that obviously the album's out,
are you touring any dates? Anything that we need to

(58:33):
like mark our calends? For or think about just some.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Well, you know, I would say, if you haven't already,
you know, if you love the record, make sure you
check out the docuseries. What Yeah, we did a whole
docu series, like the whole filming the making of the album.
Where can people find that on my YouTube channel? I
think I'm patrick yet we're yep, getting ready to drop
the last episode of the docuseries.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
How has that been to do the docus serious with it?

Speaker 3 (59:00):
It's been cool, it's been I mean, you know, it's
it was definitely an adjustment at first, like getting used
to just filming everything all the time. But you know,
like I said, it's also building my legacy. It's it's
for posterity, you know, to look back on. I mean,
hopefully one day I'm gonna have some kids and like

(59:21):
they're gonna get older and they're gonna find it somewhere
on the internet and be like, damn, like Mom's pretty
cool back in the day, you know. And and I
just wanted I wanted to document the whole experience so
that the fans could know me better, you know. I mean,
if you listen to the record, you're gonna know me
pretty damn well. Yeah, but if you watch the docu series,
then you're really gonna know me. And that was the thing,

(59:42):
is I just you know, like Ford, he is the
director or Fairchild.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I love Ford Fairchild than anyone in the wor He's
such a great photographerary amazing.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
He has been, you know, a huge part of the
whole vision of this. I mean, we have had so
many brainstorming sessions. And he just said, He's like, I
I think, I just think people don't haven't been given
the chance to truly know you, and I want to
show people who you really are. And I want to
make this this docuseries is you know, and eventually turn

(01:00:13):
it into a full documentary. And he said, I just
think people need to know the real you, and this
is how we do it. And it's like, we can't.
That was our whole plan. You know, We're coming in
from all angles. We're coming in with this music, this
really raw and vulnerable music, and we're going to couple
it with showing, you know, the behind the scenes being
on the road and then going into the studio and

(01:00:36):
making the record and the roadblocks and the tough things
that come with what I do. You know it we
showed all of it in this in this docuseries.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
So wow, what a commitment to the artistry and lot
and the message though, I mean truly that takes so
much energy and work. The fact that you could commit
to it because it is so important that this message
gets out, like to give people the full experience. Again,
it was it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Was a big commitment, but I mean it was it
was so worth it and it's so fulfilling, and you know,
I just it feels amazing to know that we did that.
I was able to document the whole process of me
finally becoming the woman I wanted wanted to become and
finally releasing the record I always wanted to make, you know,

(01:01:25):
and we documented it all. And that's you know. I
don't think you get the chance to do that very
often in life, and I'm just grateful I had a
team that was supportive of that and saw the vision
and helped me bring it to fruition.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Congratulations, Thank you, What an accomplishment.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I always wrap up with leave your Light, and it's
super open ended. I mean, obviously all you are is inspiration,
So but what do you want people to know? Just
to drop them a little bit of wisdom? If you're
gonna sum it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Up, it's never too late to have the life you want.
It's never too late to be the person you want
to be, and you have to be comfortable with doing

(01:02:13):
it on your own first. It's you know, as far
in terms of like the industry, like people that we're
telling you no will suddenly want to work with you.
But you have to get to that place first on
your own. You know, you have to. You have to
lead with like bordering on like delusional confidence, you know,
in in yourself. But yeah, I mean just learn. The

(01:02:38):
sooner you learn how to truly follow your gut and
listen to yourself, the happier you'll be and and the
more you will see doors opening for you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I love it, Megan Patrick, You're amazing, Golden Child. Everyone
needs to get this album. But prepare for big feelings
because it is so great. Though it's such an instiration,
there's fun songs on there too. It's not all just
feel but it's just such a great experience, Like prepare
for an experience.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
It's a journey.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
It's a journey, and like honestly, as an artist, if
you want your fans to know you, this is it.
This is it, This is it, and it's so awesome,
So everyone get Golden Child. It was so awesome to
get to chat with you. Do you have like five
minutes answer by like some random questions. Okay, we're gonna
do a quick little soul random questions with Megan Patrick. Thank
you so much, Meggan, You're amazing. Bye.