April 17, 2025 • 20 mins
In this bonus episode of Get Real, Chrissy Metz and Bradley Collins answer some deep questions about feelings. Some of the questions include: What would your 8 year old self think about the person you are today? If you could let go of something right now, what would it be? What moment in life do you wish you could live again and again?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Caryl Lone. She's a queen talking to you, so she's
getting really.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Not afraid to feel this episode, so just let it flow.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
No one can do We quite like Cary Lone. It
sounds of care Lone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I am so excited to be back here for a
quick bonus episode with Christie Metz and Bradley Collins. We
talked on Monday all about their new book that just
came out when I talked to God to talk about feelings,
and honestly, it is like a book for parents as
well as children, and I just want to give a
huge thank you to you guys for being such a
part of this movement where we're teaching this next generation
(00:52):
how to be in touch with their feelings and not
to suppress stuff. We talked earlier how both Christy and
Bradley and myself it was a generation of be seen
not heard, you know, and like parents and did the
best they can. But we're just not entering this awareness
that mental health is so important, that learning how to
express yourself and starting at a young age, learning how
(01:13):
to communicate your feelings. I mean, if you can just
learn that habit and that skill, because it is it's
just a habit and a skill and a knowing that
you're worthy to express your feelings. If you can learn
that from a young age, it's truly I think it
is going to just shift the game for this young
generation like to know how to be in touch with
themselves and express it and feel like they're valid and
(01:34):
that is huge. So thank y'all for the work you're doing.
Y'all also put out a book last year when I
talked to God or two years ago when I talked
to God to talk about you, with a album that
accompany that prayed for this day, which is so beautiful
Chrissy singing and this. Y'all are doing great work.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Thank you so much, thank you, thanks, thanks for this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And of course Christy, everyone knows Chrissy from This is Us.
I mean that's just a fact. There's never ever going
to not be a little now down in glory, not
on a glory to you. No, Yes, it's a life
changing show. I mean like like if you want to
learn how to be a human well in a family,
(02:15):
watch this as Us. She'll do a great job of navigating.
I think that's why the world loves it, because like
we see ourselves in there, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, a little bit of a blueprint for life.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, Okay, we're going to do a few tell me
more questions and I'm going to ask them. Then you'll
both just answer these are This is my favorite because
it's just, you know, whatever comes to mind. It's just roll. Kay.
What do you think your eight year old self would
think about the person you are today? Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I think she'd be like heck, yeah, yeah, girl, you
did it like you stood in line long enough, you waited,
you persevered, like and oh my.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Goodness, we did it like we really did it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, like we really did it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Did she know that you were going to do it?
Did she believe in herself like you do?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No? No, I was a friend of my own shadow.
I No, absolutely not. I was just like just like yeah, no,
I was a mess.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What gave you the confidence to go for your dreams
if you were afraid of your own shadow? Because I
mean you really whip for them.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah. I think my grandmother instilling faith in a very
young age was really helpful. And also like my intention
and why I never wanted famine fortune. It wasn't like
I get wait to be origin in famous, Like are
you getting me? Like what. I just wanted to see
myself on TV and books and movies and to be
(03:44):
able to be like want someone to relate to me
and I could relate to them because I didn't feel
any of those things growing up. So yeah, it was
never about fame or fortune for me. It was just
like I get to tell stories and whether it's at
a local theater or on a someone's TV every Tuesday night.
So yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So you wanted to be seen and heard and let
other people be seen and heard, Yes, that was the goal,
and not fame of fortune.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, no, and I still want that. I think that's
why I still, you know, write music and love music
music because my first love. But like, yeah, I mean
that's the whole point where he like we're on this
plane of existence for us, so like you're the teacher
or the student and sometimes both and like that's a
part of our evolution and then's why I think we're here.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So yeah, I love that. Okay, Bradley, what do you
think your eight year old self would think about the
person you are today?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, I'll take I'll say it like this.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I was talking to my mom on Sunday night, and
I was telling her, I'm going I went to Stanford
University down in Birmingham, and I'm going back there to
speak to the early education.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Majors in April.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And my mom said, did you ever think that you'd
be going back to college to speak to early education
majors about a book you wrote? And absolutely not. So
I would tell my eight year old self, it turns
out a lot better than you could have imagined. Because
I thought I was supposed to be a music publisher.
I thought I was supposed to being in the in
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the industry, and you know, those dreams aren't taken away.
I feel like they're improved. And I would tell my
eight year old self that it's better than you think
it could be.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I love that. I love that. Okay, what's something you
worked really hard on recently?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm studying Italian?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
What?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah? Why? I just love it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You're just learning it for fun?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, I just love it. And I've always been like
drawn to it. And I got to like number one
in the Diamond League because I did like a social
media fast for January and I was like, okay, okay,
so by no means am my you know, fluent or whatever.
But it's just something that I was consistent with and
(05:58):
I saw improvement and I was like, Okay, So by
the time my friend moves to Italy, I'm going to
be able to be conversational and it's going to be exciting.
And I'm also trying to develop a TV show that
would be set there, so it's like, also great research.
But yeah, it's been really fun and I just thought cool,
it's beautiful language.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But as an adult, like learning language feels so daunting
and so hard, it so overwhelming, and I feel like, oh,
I could never do that. But yes you can if
you want to.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You can do anything if you want to. Yeah, it
just takes maybe a little more effort.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, I love that. Okay, Bradley, what is something you
worked really hard on recently?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, this song I just had come out. I never
thought i'd put one out myself.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
And it's like, when I was what's that was?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It? Was it titled? Again?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
When I don't know what to say and going back
to being am I to writing, I didn't realize how
much I didn't know about music. And that sounds weird
because I was working out a cup whose middle name
is music and just working and putting myself into songwriting
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and learning the craft, learning how it works is an
ongoing process and it's still new. I didn't really start
doing this or giving myself a shot at it till
the end of end of Pandemic, and that was just
that's been an ongoing learning to.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Step out as an adult again here stepping out of
your comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, I would hate to think that I'm in my
final form, you know. I think it's just something always,
something always pushes you to.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Do more, to learn more.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And yeah, it's writing songs. I learned something new every
single day. Usually is what I realize I don't know,
I don't know. You know, I'll always say I'm not
afraid of what I don't know. I'm afraid of what
I don't know. I don't know, And learning that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's what I don't know is even out there.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Not to know, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That is a that is a a constant deep dig,
deep dive into into into life.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, it's like a next layer. And it's like as
soon as you get kind of like comfortable on one level,
it's like, oh man, there's a whole next level and
you don't know anything, and you're gonna do all this
new work yeah, it's all. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's just fun though. It's fun.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I feel like I'm in high school a game when
I was just doing music.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Is that great? We never? You don't have to age out,
you know?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, no you don't, you don't. You just just a
beautiful gift can give yourself.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If you could let go of something right now, no
matter how big or small, what would it be? M
I mean, y'all wrote a book about feelings, guys, So
these are questions about feelings.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I know what an appropriate question?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think because maybe everything is necessary.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh yes, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Because I immediately I was like fear, but I'm like, no, no, no,
fear provides, you know, another perspective and another way of
looking at something, and it means you care about something.
And so I'm like, oh, like what what? Mm hmm,
you know, I don't know. Like that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That is a tough one.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I am constantly working on forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Hmm. You have hard forgiving yourself for others?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Both is it? Why is it hard for you? Why
is forgiveness a hard one? I mean it's hard for
all of us, but you in particular.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Because I feel like I think things happen have in
the past, thought things happened to me and not for me,
And I've always struggled with seeing where is this going?
Why did this hap happened like this? Why did this
fork in the road all of a sudden not be
an option or a choice? It was all right, you're
on this road now. And a lot of times that's
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other people or circumstances that put me on a different path.
So I'm always working on on forgiveness and honoring the
emotions and feelings that come with it and just working
through it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, So we got a lot of one. Okay, perfectionism,
Like I feel like that really like can paralyze me
and it can stifle my creativity. And I'm like, oh,
there's no I think the definition of perfect really means finished,
and since nothing's finished, especially arts, never finished, it's just abandoned.
(10:45):
Like yeah, like just it's okay. Then it's not perfect,
it's okay, and that it's you know, not maybe exactly
what you had in mind, like sort of having me
to being okay with that. Yeah, although like it's not
because I think I'm perfect at all. It's just like,
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what are people going to think about me if I
put this, this or this or that out.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And we also when you put yourself out there for
the whole world to have opinions on, it's hard not
to want it to be a level of perfect because
it's a lot to get up people's reactions.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, especially these days it's everybody has access
to everything.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And people are not polite, brutal out there.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
No, and they'll say things that they would never say
to your face, which is.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Wild, inhumane things to people just because of your protection
of a screen. You know. Yeah, people don't feel like
you're real.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah. Yeah, it's disturbing. It's really sad. Actually, you know,
there's so many instances of like, you know, people being
bullied that, yeah, all of that, And maybe that's a
part of it. Like, I mean, I'm so exposed that, like,
I don't really care when people think about me because
it's not factual. Anyway, I can't, I can't attach the
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bat or to the good.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So I was at a bookstore on Saturday. I usually
go to bookstore on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And oh, that's so poetic of you, Bradley.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Isn't isn't that?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yes? The books on Saturday, I like that.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And I saw somebody pick up a copy of the
first book and being like, oh no, no, this is
not this is not what what I'm looking for. And
I would never have said anything, and maybe at another
point in my life that would have hurt me, but
you know, it's it's just something that kind of creeps
up sometimes, and there's knowing that what you do is
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not perfect for everybody. You know, that's a lesson that
you learn or keep being taught, even when you're just
having a nice little Saturday at your favorite bookstore wanting
to drop look at books.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
You know, he keeps happening.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I don't like bell peppers on my pizza doesn't mean
bell peppers aren't good, right, else might love them so, but.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
It's just such a level of acceptance that you have
to get to.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well, that goes back to the self love and like
knowing that, like our intention in putting the book out
was full and full heartened. And if people don't receive that,
whether they want to, can't, they're unwilling and capable, has
nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Nothing, gosh, and knowing that to your core is like
the biggest achievement you can get in your life.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is knowing that what other people think of you and
your art has nothing to do with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,
last question, and I really appreciate you'all coming on here.
This has been amazing. Okay, what moment of life do
you wish you could live again and again?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
M I always think I could wish I went back
to high school and studied more. You know, I wish
I applied to myself a little more, or I wish
I gave myself a shot right earlier. I started in
adowment again at Sanford University, first creative adowment of its kind.
(14:12):
I'm not blowing my horn, but I'm just saying it's
like that to me was something I gave to twenty
one year old me to have the opportunity to see
that somebody else in my same circumstances found a path
to write and create and live a creative life, and
not just the majors that were in front of them.
(14:33):
So I would go back to my education period and
give myself a shot to be creative earlier.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I love that. Okay, Chrissy, what moment of your life
do you wish you could live again and again?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's interesting because my perception of the question is like,
isn't like this positive experience that like I love that
moment so much in my life that like I just
want that feeling over and over, or it's something that
like I could glean more insight from that I don't.
It's it's really hard to say because I've had so
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many beautiful moments that if I went back, would they
be as beautiful because I'm changed, you know, like I
really overanalyze.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
What indeed right there?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh yeah, girl, it's a lot going on. But I
know I can't just like answer the question Chrissy.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Can because when I go back, I'm in a different
timeline now because I have evolved in so much a
shiture so right though.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
But I you know, like anytime I'm with my family,
like I just I learned so much about myself and
I'm so grateful that, you know, because of where our
family came from and where we're at now and our
relationships like that always really, I mean, it's not for
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not like there's a reason why with the dynamics or
the way they are and me being middle child and
like everything I get to learn about myself and about them,
and you know, I don't know I It's hard to
pinpoint like a particular time, like I could say, oh,
this award show or this nomination, or when this song
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you know came.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Out, or didn't you see it the oscars of the
full choir behind you I did. I mean, that's a
pretty awesome moment.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I mean incredible. But I thought that I had something
wrong with my stomach because it was hurting so bad
because the stress that everybody put me under that I
don't know that I want to go back and relive that. Like,
I'm so grateful. I'm past that and I'm grateful I
did it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Isn't that interesting though, that, Like when we see this moment,
it's like, holy how but in your hat head you're
like having an internal issue going on, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Literally, I was like everybody was more stress than I was,
and I was like, oh but again, I learned that,
like I can't take on people's feelings and manage their
emotions like I gotta center myself. We learned so much. Yeah,
but I have incredible moments and I can't even believe
my life is what it is. I mean, I never
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thought I would ever go to Africa.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
How is that?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
It was like life changing? Tell me why so many
reasons we are so fortunate in this country and all
that we have and all that we you know, whether
it's turning on a light which or like running water
that we actually can drink, like, they are very simple things,
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and the gratitude that they have and the humility, especially
when I was in Nigeria, like it was, I'm like,
we don't even know, we don't even know what we have,
Like we can't even conceptualize like a life that looks
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like that. And it's always the people who have the
least that want to be the most giving, and it's
just oh yeah, it was very enriching, very very enriching,
and yeah, yeah it was really really really beautiful.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Isn't that amazing that your talent and your crap and
your love and your passion can take you all around
the world literally.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
If it's not God, I don't know what to tell you.
I don't know what to tell you. I can't again explain.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It because you could never plan it, never, never.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It was always a bucket list, like a dream was
always to go to Africa always.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Really, yeah, you just did it in the most enriching
way you possibly could. Yeah, yeah, life can be beautiful
if we let it right?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
What is if we patient? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, we're worthy to receive it. We feel like, you know,
also like how do we get back? How can we
be of service?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
All those things are so rewarding.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I love that you guys are amazing. Thank you so
much for these books that you've been writing. When I
talk to God, I talk about feelings. It'll be out
when this comes out. Y'all also have the sister book,
the first one When I Talk to God, I talked
about you as well as well as prayed for this
day the album, and Bradley has a song out to
accompany this book. Okay, tell me the name of the
(19:36):
song all time.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Well, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I don't not say Bradley beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And I actually wrote an album to book.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
What's the album called?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Big Feelings?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Is it out as well?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's coming out middle of April after the book.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Big sand Okay, this is awesome, guys, this is so huge.
Thank you for you your voice and your platforms to
help us learn parents as well as children. But to
start it so young and then to let it let
it just infiltrate us all because if we can express
our feelings and express ourselves and realize that we're valuable
and worthy for just being who we are, and everything
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that we have inside of us is worth to be
heard and we're just worthy. If we could just learn that,
that's that would just be it
Caryl Lone. She's a queen talking to you, so she's
getting really.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Not afraid to feel this episode, so just let it flow.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
No one can do We quite like Cary Lone. It
sounds of care Lone.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I am so excited to be back here for a
quick bonus episode with Christie Metz and Bradley Collins. We
talked on Monday all about their new book that just
came out when I talked to God to talk about feelings,
and honestly, it is like a book for parents as
well as children, and I just want to give a
huge thank you to you guys for being such a
part of this movement where we're teaching this next generation
(00:52):
how to be in touch with their feelings and not
to suppress stuff. We talked earlier how both Christy and
Bradley and myself it was a generation of be seen
not heard, you know, and like parents and did the
best they can. But we're just not entering this awareness
that mental health is so important, that learning how to
express yourself and starting at a young age, learning how
(01:13):
to communicate your feelings. I mean, if you can just
learn that habit and that skill, because it is it's
just a habit and a skill and a knowing that
you're worthy to express your feelings. If you can learn
that from a young age, it's truly I think it
is going to just shift the game for this young
generation like to know how to be in touch with
themselves and express it and feel like they're valid and
(01:34):
that is huge. So thank y'all for the work you're doing.
Y'all also put out a book last year when I
talked to God or two years ago when I talked
to God to talk about you, with a album that
accompany that prayed for this day, which is so beautiful
Chrissy singing and this. Y'all are doing great work.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Thank you so much, thank you, thanks, thanks for this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
And of course Christy, everyone knows Chrissy from This is Us.
I mean that's just a fact. There's never ever going
to not be a little now down in glory, not
on a glory to you. No, Yes, it's a life
changing show. I mean like like if you want to
learn how to be a human well in a family,
(02:15):
watch this as Us. She'll do a great job of navigating.
I think that's why the world loves it, because like
we see ourselves in there, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, a little bit of a blueprint for life.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, Okay, we're going to do a few tell me
more questions and I'm going to ask them. Then you'll
both just answer these are This is my favorite because
it's just, you know, whatever comes to mind. It's just roll. Kay.
What do you think your eight year old self would
think about the person you are today? Oh?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I think she'd be like heck, yeah, yeah, girl, you
did it like you stood in line long enough, you waited,
you persevered, like and oh my.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Goodness, we did it like we really did it.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, like we really did it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Did she know that you were going to do it?
Did she believe in herself like you do?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No? No, I was a friend of my own shadow.
I No, absolutely not. I was just like just like yeah, no,
I was a mess.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What gave you the confidence to go for your dreams
if you were afraid of your own shadow? Because I
mean you really whip for them.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah. I think my grandmother instilling faith in a very
young age was really helpful. And also like my intention
and why I never wanted famine fortune. It wasn't like
I get wait to be origin in famous, Like are
you getting me? Like what. I just wanted to see
myself on TV and books and movies and to be
(03:44):
able to be like want someone to relate to me
and I could relate to them because I didn't feel
any of those things growing up. So yeah, it was
never about fame or fortune for me. It was just
like I get to tell stories and whether it's at
a local theater or on a someone's TV every Tuesday night.
So yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
So you wanted to be seen and heard and let
other people be seen and heard, Yes, that was the goal,
and not fame of fortune.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, no, and I still want that. I think that's
why I still, you know, write music and love music
music because my first love. But like, yeah, I mean
that's the whole point where he like we're on this
plane of existence for us, so like you're the teacher
or the student and sometimes both and like that's a
part of our evolution and then's why I think we're here.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
So yeah, I love that. Okay, Bradley, what do you
think your eight year old self would think about the
person you are today?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, I'll take I'll say it like this.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I was talking to my mom on Sunday night, and
I was telling her, I'm going I went to Stanford
University down in Birmingham, and I'm going back there to
speak to the early education.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Majors in April.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And my mom said, did you ever think that you'd
be going back to college to speak to early education
majors about a book you wrote? And absolutely not. So
I would tell my eight year old self, it turns
out a lot better than you could have imagined. Because
I thought I was supposed to be a music publisher.
I thought I was supposed to being in the in
(05:11):
the industry, and you know, those dreams aren't taken away.
I feel like they're improved. And I would tell my
eight year old self that it's better than you think
it could be.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I love that. I love that. Okay, what's something you
worked really hard on recently?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm studying Italian?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
What?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah? Why? I just love it.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You're just learning it for fun?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, I just love it. And I've always been like
drawn to it. And I got to like number one
in the Diamond League because I did like a social
media fast for January and I was like, okay, okay,
so by no means am my you know, fluent or whatever.
But it's just something that I was consistent with and
(05:58):
I saw improvement and I was like, Okay, So by
the time my friend moves to Italy, I'm going to
be able to be conversational and it's going to be exciting.
And I'm also trying to develop a TV show that
would be set there, so it's like, also great research.
But yeah, it's been really fun and I just thought cool,
it's beautiful language.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But as an adult, like learning language feels so daunting
and so hard, it so overwhelming, and I feel like, oh,
I could never do that. But yes you can if
you want to.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You can do anything if you want to. Yeah, it
just takes maybe a little more effort.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, I love that. Okay, Bradley, what is something you
worked really hard on recently?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, this song I just had come out. I never
thought i'd put one out myself.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
And it's like, when I was what's that was?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It? Was it titled? Again?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
When I don't know what to say and going back
to being am I to writing, I didn't realize how
much I didn't know about music. And that sounds weird
because I was working out a cup whose middle name
is music and just working and putting myself into songwriting
(07:06):
and learning the craft, learning how it works is an
ongoing process and it's still new. I didn't really start
doing this or giving myself a shot at it till
the end of end of Pandemic, and that was just
that's been an ongoing learning to.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Step out as an adult again here stepping out of
your comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, I would hate to think that I'm in my
final form, you know. I think it's just something always,
something always pushes you to.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Do more, to learn more.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And yeah, it's writing songs. I learned something new every
single day. Usually is what I realize I don't know,
I don't know. You know, I'll always say I'm not
afraid of what I don't know. I'm afraid of what
I don't know. I don't know, And learning that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
That's what I don't know is even out there.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Not to know, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That is a that is a a constant deep dig,
deep dive into into into life.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, it's like a next layer. And it's like as
soon as you get kind of like comfortable on one level,
it's like, oh man, there's a whole next level and
you don't know anything, and you're gonna do all this
new work yeah, it's all. Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's just fun though. It's fun.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I feel like I'm in high school a game when
I was just doing music.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Is that great? We never? You don't have to age out,
you know?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, no you don't, you don't. You just just a
beautiful gift can give yourself.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If you could let go of something right now, no
matter how big or small, what would it be? M
I mean, y'all wrote a book about feelings, guys, So
these are questions about feelings.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I know what an appropriate question?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think because maybe everything is necessary.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh yes, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Because I immediately I was like fear, but I'm like, no, no, no,
fear provides, you know, another perspective and another way of
looking at something, and it means you care about something.
And so I'm like, oh, like what what? Mm hmm,
you know, I don't know. Like that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
That is a tough one.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I am constantly working on forgiveness.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Hmm. You have hard forgiving yourself for others?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Both is it? Why is it hard for you? Why
is forgiveness a hard one? I mean it's hard for
all of us, but you in particular.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Because I feel like I think things happen have in
the past, thought things happened to me and not for me,
And I've always struggled with seeing where is this going?
Why did this hap happened like this? Why did this
fork in the road all of a sudden not be
an option or a choice? It was all right, you're
on this road now. And a lot of times that's
(10:10):
other people or circumstances that put me on a different path.
So I'm always working on on forgiveness and honoring the
emotions and feelings that come with it and just working
through it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, So we got a lot of one. Okay, perfectionism,
Like I feel like that really like can paralyze me
and it can stifle my creativity. And I'm like, oh,
there's no I think the definition of perfect really means finished,
and since nothing's finished, especially arts, never finished, it's just abandoned.
(10:45):
Like yeah, like just it's okay. Then it's not perfect,
it's okay, and that it's you know, not maybe exactly
what you had in mind, like sort of having me
to being okay with that. Yeah, although like it's not
because I think I'm perfect at all. It's just like,
(11:08):
what are people going to think about me if I
put this, this or this or that out.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
And we also when you put yourself out there for
the whole world to have opinions on, it's hard not
to want it to be a level of perfect because
it's a lot to get up people's reactions.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, especially these days it's everybody has access
to everything.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And people are not polite, brutal out there.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
No, and they'll say things that they would never say
to your face, which is.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Wild, inhumane things to people just because of your protection
of a screen. You know. Yeah, people don't feel like
you're real.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah. Yeah, it's disturbing. It's really sad. Actually, you know,
there's so many instances of like, you know, people being
bullied that, yeah, all of that, And maybe that's a
part of it. Like, I mean, I'm so exposed that, like,
I don't really care when people think about me because
it's not factual. Anyway, I can't, I can't attach the
(12:03):
bat or to the good.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So I was at a bookstore on Saturday. I usually
go to bookstore on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And oh, that's so poetic of you, Bradley.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Isn't isn't that?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yes? The books on Saturday, I like that.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And I saw somebody pick up a copy of the
first book and being like, oh no, no, this is
not this is not what what I'm looking for. And
I would never have said anything, and maybe at another
point in my life that would have hurt me, but
you know, it's it's just something that kind of creeps
up sometimes, and there's knowing that what you do is
(12:39):
not perfect for everybody. You know, that's a lesson that
you learn or keep being taught, even when you're just
having a nice little Saturday at your favorite bookstore wanting
to drop look at books.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
You know, he keeps happening.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I don't like bell peppers on my pizza doesn't mean
bell peppers aren't good, right, else might love them so, but.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
It's just such a level of acceptance that you have
to get to.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Well, that goes back to the self love and like
knowing that, like our intention in putting the book out
was full and full heartened. And if people don't receive that,
whether they want to, can't, they're unwilling and capable, has
nothing to do with me.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Nothing, gosh, and knowing that to your core is like
the biggest achievement you can get in your life.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is knowing that what other people think of you and
your art has nothing to do with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay,
last question, and I really appreciate you'all coming on here.
This has been amazing. Okay, what moment of life do
you wish you could live again and again?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
M I always think I could wish I went back
to high school and studied more. You know, I wish
I applied to myself a little more, or I wish
I gave myself a shot right earlier. I started in
adowment again at Sanford University, first creative adowment of its kind.
(14:12):
I'm not blowing my horn, but I'm just saying it's
like that to me was something I gave to twenty
one year old me to have the opportunity to see
that somebody else in my same circumstances found a path
to write and create and live a creative life, and
not just the majors that were in front of them.
(14:33):
So I would go back to my education period and
give myself a shot to be creative earlier.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I love that. Okay, Chrissy, what moment of your life
do you wish you could live again and again?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
It's interesting because my perception of the question is like,
isn't like this positive experience that like I love that
moment so much in my life that like I just
want that feeling over and over, or it's something that
like I could glean more insight from that I don't.
It's it's really hard to say because I've had so
(15:10):
many beautiful moments that if I went back, would they
be as beautiful because I'm changed, you know, like I
really overanalyze.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
What indeed right there?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh yeah, girl, it's a lot going on. But I
know I can't just like answer the question Chrissy.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Can because when I go back, I'm in a different
timeline now because I have evolved in so much a
shiture so right though.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
But I you know, like anytime I'm with my family,
like I just I learned so much about myself and
I'm so grateful that, you know, because of where our
family came from and where we're at now and our
relationships like that always really, I mean, it's not for
(16:06):
not like there's a reason why with the dynamics or
the way they are and me being middle child and
like everything I get to learn about myself and about them,
and you know, I don't know I It's hard to
pinpoint like a particular time, like I could say, oh,
this award show or this nomination, or when this song
(16:27):
you know came.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Out, or didn't you see it the oscars of the
full choir behind you I did. I mean, that's a
pretty awesome moment.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I mean incredible. But I thought that I had something
wrong with my stomach because it was hurting so bad
because the stress that everybody put me under that I
don't know that I want to go back and relive that. Like,
I'm so grateful. I'm past that and I'm grateful I
did it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Isn't that interesting though, that, Like when we see this moment,
it's like, holy how but in your hat head you're
like having an internal issue going on, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Literally, I was like everybody was more stress than I was,
and I was like, oh but again, I learned that,
like I can't take on people's feelings and manage their
emotions like I gotta center myself. We learned so much. Yeah,
but I have incredible moments and I can't even believe
my life is what it is. I mean, I never
(17:22):
thought I would ever go to Africa.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
How is that?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
It was like life changing? Tell me why so many
reasons we are so fortunate in this country and all
that we have and all that we you know, whether
it's turning on a light which or like running water
that we actually can drink, like, they are very simple things,
(17:47):
and the gratitude that they have and the humility, especially
when I was in Nigeria, like it was, I'm like,
we don't even know, we don't even know what we have,
Like we can't even conceptualize like a life that looks
(18:09):
like that. And it's always the people who have the
least that want to be the most giving, and it's
just oh yeah, it was very enriching, very very enriching,
and yeah, yeah it was really really really beautiful.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Isn't that amazing that your talent and your crap and
your love and your passion can take you all around
the world literally.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
If it's not God, I don't know what to tell you.
I don't know what to tell you. I can't again explain.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It because you could never plan it, never, never.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It was always a bucket list, like a dream was
always to go to Africa always.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Really, yeah, you just did it in the most enriching
way you possibly could. Yeah, yeah, life can be beautiful
if we let it right?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
What is if we patient? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, we're worthy to receive it. We feel like, you know,
also like how do we get back? How can we
be of service?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
All those things are so rewarding.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I love that you guys are amazing. Thank you so
much for these books that you've been writing. When I
talk to God, I talk about feelings. It'll be out
when this comes out. Y'all also have the sister book,
the first one When I Talk to God, I talked
about you as well as well as prayed for this
day the album, and Bradley has a song out to
accompany this book. Okay, tell me the name of the
(19:36):
song all time.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Well, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I don't not say Bradley beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And I actually wrote an album to book.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
What's the album called?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Big Feelings?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Is it out as well?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's coming out middle of April after the book.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Big sand Okay, this is awesome, guys, this is so huge.
Thank you for you your voice and your platforms to
help us learn parents as well as children. But to
start it so young and then to let it let
it just infiltrate us all because if we can express
our feelings and express ourselves and realize that we're valuable
and worthy for just being who we are, and everything
(20:16):
that we have inside of us is worth to be
heard and we're just worthy. If we could just learn that,
that's that would just be it
Host
Caroline Hobby
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