The Perfect Season Is Shattered

In this episode Lunchbox talks about how his undefeated season as a head basketball coach came to end on Saturday when they ran into the class of the league. Coach Lunchbox is distraught and needs to go back to the drawing board on how to get this team back to it's winning ways. Sore Losers Nation did something super nice for Ray's Dad and even made Ray's Dad cry! Plus we talk about the amazing football we got to see this weekend. Poor Bills, the Chiefs are amazing, and the Eagles are heading to the Super Bowl. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Happy Monday, man, I sent stuff files to your wife.
Oh dude, let me tell you. She texted me this
morning and she was like, hey, do you know if
you guys talked about certain things on the live podcast?
And I was like, yeah, I think I did. And
she goes, okay, I'm gonna ask Ray for some air checks,
and literally she texted me five minutes later she goes,

(00:21):
oh my gosh, I just opened my email and Ray
sent air checks before I even asked for them.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I was thinking the exact same wave link as your
wife at the exact same moment.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Man, you guys should have married each other. Man, you
guys are awesome. You guys are so great. You're sitting
on the say you think alike like two peas in
a pod. Know what these are? They're not two peas
and they're not two pods. What are they? No idea? What?
Those are handwarmers. It's that damn cold in this place.
It's freezing. Those are electric handwarmers. That's for me, really cool.

(00:53):
Oh god, those are great, dude. She got them on Amazon.
Those are great all day dude. Oh my gosh. They
look like the car the car fobs that you unlock
and unlock your car because I got handwarmers for Christmas.
Santa Claus had put them in the stockings, and they're

(01:15):
the ones you heat up in the microwave, and I'm like,
so these are great for about two minutes, and then
when you're somewhere, how do you reheat them?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Dicks, They're those ones that only last for ten hours?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, no, these are like little bean bags, like you're
playing cornhole. But you put them in the microwave, you
heat them up, and then you go outside and you
have them in your pocket. But I'm like, well, so
when I go to a football game and I'm standing
there and I've got them out of the microwave an
hour ago, are they still going to work? Probably not.
I was so cold at work. I went to Dicks
and they had they got me.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
On the way out, it said twenty heater pockets pads
for your pockets for ten bucks, and I said, screw it,
I'm getting a bulk bag.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Bought the whole thing, and then a day later Abby
got me these nice. I'm tired of my hands being coold, dude.
My toes right now are frozen, like absolutely frozen.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I try to find the thickest socks. I'm putting this
in my shoe, dude. I try to buy the Oh
my gosh, this is amazing I put into my shoe.
It's like, oh, it's fixed. No, it's freezing. It's freezing
in the studios now. And I try to find the
thickest socks every day, and every day it's a different

(02:24):
thickness because not all my socks are the same, and
when you get down to the bare minimum, it's like, God,
I'm in the freaking thinness socks. I should wear two
bears because my freaking toes are frozen.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Me and Abby started wearing double socks.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I know.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I talk about me and Abby all the time, not
like to make Arnold mad, but we work in the
same room and now our temperature has mirrored you guys,
and then we also have the hallway air.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's brutal. I don't know why you guys don't close
that door, dude.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I've I haven't been reminded of my job at the
lumber mill, and sometime it's been twenty years. We would
try to find a vent. That's how you would stay
warm out in the lumbermilk, because it would probably be
forty to fifty degrees, so you'd find that hot vent
and it was the cleanest spot in the entire lumber
mill because you'd sweep right underneath the vent and they'd
come over.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh my gosh, this whole machine looks great. Yeah, it's
right under the vent. Dude, I went over like ten times.
But now in this building being cold, it reminds me
of the lumber mill. Then my kids they stand on
the vent at the house. They stand on the vent
because they're cold, like when we're at the table. They
get cold, so they get down and they stand on
the vent to get warm. It's amazing. Whoa, they're just

(03:30):
like you.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Ray. They look over the moat.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
We don't have a moat.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
We always have stuff to talk about.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Oh we got some stuff to talk about football. Basketball.
That was from McAfee baseball. Dang it. Sorry that Okay,
here we go. All right, we're gonna do it live
we Oh the one two three sore loser? What up, everybody?

(04:02):
I am lunchbox. I know the most about sports. Saw
I give it the sports facts, my sports opinions, because
I'm pretty much a sports genius. What if, y'all? It
says and I'm from the north. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the north side of Nashville. The Broadway Girl,
white picket fence. It's finally up in the fifties. I
thought about golfing in my backyard. Some dumbasses were actually
at the golf course the other day when it was

(04:22):
thirty eight out. Not fun.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I do a little cut through and sometimes I go
through a course, the Stone one.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Whatever the crap it's called.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Guys, Why why are we golfing when it's thirty six.
Don't ruin the greens, ruin the fairways. Just let it
get into the forties, fifties. Stop being addicted, do porn, nicotine, smack,
crag skag.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Just don't be addicted to golf because you're ruining our greens.
Over to you, man. I saw some dude the other day.
He was probably forty five fifty years old. It was
seven degrees out ray seven he was. He had the
runner shorts on the you know, the real short shorts.
I mean I used to wear them in cross country

(05:07):
and I was always like, what the hell? Or these
are the weirdest things ever? Do they really make me
go that much faster? Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
No, now they're in style.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, well this guy was wearing them, and when he
was running and he had no shirt on, I'm like, dude,
it's seven degrees, Like, hey, you don't look cool. You
look like a dumb ass. You're not tough, You're just
a fucking idiot. Like you're so stupid. I swear that.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
When you and me were down downtown when we're scouting
out the venue for Coaches Convention, there's some shirtless dude
running through crowds of people. Guys, he wasn't going for
the run. He does that every time to show off
his chest in front of these tourists that are in town.
It's kind of how he gets his crank off.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
I guess it was just so I might dude, do
you really And he was running with a friend and
his friend was all bundled up with hat and gloves
and long pants, long shirt, And do you think your
friend thinks you're cooler because you're not wearing a shirt.
It's it's the extremities.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
It's just like when you go in the plunge, you
wear a stocking cap and you wear gloves, but you
don't do his shirt, so it make it actually makes sense.
I hate to rip on him, but then say it
does check out.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
No he I was just like whatever, But anyway, let's right.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't understand the warmth of the extremity.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
No, I do understand because I hated it when my
ears were cold and when I play soccer or my
fingers and my toes absolutely miserable. You put gloves on,
your body, warms up immediately. Put a beanie on your
body warms up immediately.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
We went pheasant hunting, me and my brother got frostbite fingers.
Never went honting with my dad again. Oh, we were
in Iowa. It was negative twenty out. We had fingerless
gloves because he wanted us to be able to shoot
the guns. Dude, My fingers were numb for weeks after that.
Whenever I had shampoo my hair, it was the worst
feeling ever. I almost had to do it with my
palm because all my fingers were numb. I was being dramatic.

(06:47):
I may have gone hunting after that, but one of
the most miserable experiences.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Instead, we just went to.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
The resort and showed at the pool the rest of
the week and my dad go, you boy, sure you
don't want to come hunting? No, Dad, My fingers almost
fell off yesterday. I'm good, thanks.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
So we just chilled. How did you get your fingers back?
And the feeling just came back eventually, Yeah, but in
that week and probably the next week, it was definitely numb.
I felt like the first couple of years we had kids,
that my kids were gonna lose their hands when it
would snow because I just gave them like regular mittens.
I didn't give them like snow mitten. I mean, I
just cave from the mitten. But I'm talking about cloth.

(07:23):
Like they weren't like snow. And we'd go out in
the snow and they would dig in the snows, dig
in the stone. Then we'd go inside it and their
hands were so red and they were like shaking.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Take this tablecloth.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
And I realized then that we should probably invest in
some gloves, because man, their fingers, they're like d my
fingers hurt. My fingers hurt, And I'm like, come on, man,
it can't be that bad. And now I realized it
is that bad.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I'm gonna try and find the link online the warmest
gloves that I ever bought when we went to North Dakota.
As we went to the Tetons named after tits. Yes,
we went there, and not the Iceo tone.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean Webgorm Morgan from take this personally. She's been
to the Tittans and I think it's called gear hardware gear,
and they were the warmest globs I've ever had.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I'm gonna try and get them for you. They're like
two hundred dollars. You can get them for your kids stocking.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
It'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So then they'll wear of the one time of year
it snows.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yes, because we need that. And I'm gonna tell you
about this weekend. Man, it was a big weekend for me.
It was my debut, my head coaching debut. You already
made your debut. No, I wasn't there though, that was it.
Though I know we won that game, and I was
not there. And so I show up to lead Team
Nashville two, our second game on Saturday morning at nine am,

(08:36):
and here we go. We park in the parking lot
and kids are dribbling their basketball on the way in
off the foot under a car. All right, hold on,
let me climb under the car and get it. I'm
climbing under this truck to get it.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Brief pause, Henny doesn't listen to this, so I don't
know if he knows English. Do you ever get your
kid those indoor basketballs?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yes? They don't make sound? No? Oh, I have one
that makes sound. Yeah, regular basketball. No. No, I have
a little orange one that you hang on the back
of the door. But it's like palm size, but it
actually bounces and it makes noise.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I'll have to ask Eddie. He must have been the
one that got it. It's a soundless basketball. Who you
dribble it inside?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Who? Easy? Okay? Anyway, what the hell are you doing
digging in your pits.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Dude, I'm sorry, I'm just uncomfortable. I'm trying to get comfortable.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Thank you. So I get the ball out from under
the truck, you know what I mean for baby box two.
And then they keep dribbling it down the sidewalk and
they're yelling baskete Paul, basket ball, basket ball, and the
sliding doors open to the little gym, and the person
working the front desk and they're bouncing their balls in there,
and they're like, no bouncing them in here, please?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Okay, wow, okay cool, And then they're like killing basket ball,
basket ball, and the lady working on the desk goes
basket ball basketball, so she chanted it back after she
said don't bounce the balls.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
She had a turn of change of heart.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah, she all of a sudden got nice and was
like excited that they were there to play basketball. And
they go in the gym and they're bouncing the ball
shooting it. And I got a team of nine. And
then we get a text. One dude is out. He
has fractured foot jumping off to bed last week. Okay, cool,
we're down to eight. Man, you get to hear all
the kid injuries. Then we get a text, Oh, frostbed tongue.

(10:23):
I forgot to text this earlier, but Megan's not gonna
make it today. Down to seven text me the night before.
I'm not Bob Knight, but I am strict, damn it. Yeah,
I would like to know that ahead of time. So
I could you know the lineups that really change throws
everything off our game. Who's gonna run the isolation, who's
gonna run the pick and roll? It's really thrown out
the window.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, it's called RPO, just like the Chiefs run pass options.
Same in basketball.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
And so we're down to seven, right, and we're there
and it's just my two boys. Well you went nine
to two, and we're, uh, we're you know, we're nine
to we're at seven right now, but I'm not where
is everybody else? And we got like eleven minutes before
the game. Then one one girl shows up. All right,
all right, here we go. Here we go. Five kids
show up and it is two minutes before the game.

(11:07):
And the guy brings me over this pad and he's like, here,
you need to fill out, you know, the score sheet,
like you have a score sheet for four and six
year four to six year old basketball. They're like, yeah,
I just write their name and their jersey number. I'm like,
we don't have jerseys yet. They're still haven't come in.
He goes, oh, we got pennies over there with jerseys
on him. I'm like, all right, so I grab five pennies.
I hand them out and I write their names down.

(11:28):
All right, you're number six, you're number twelve, you're number eleven.
I hand it back to him and he comes back over.
He goes, hey, man, you only got five. I said,
what's all that's here right now? He goes, well, you
better write down anybody that might show up because if
they try to get in the game and you're not
written down, that's a tech. Yeah, all right, thanks Tessaitory.

(11:49):
And I'm like, really, so you give me a technical foul,
like you're really keeping stats? What are you? Donaghy? Sorry, okay.
So I write the other two down and they show
up and hand one of the kids number seven. I say, hey, man,
you're number seven today, and he goes, is that because
I'm really good? I'm like, sure, man, just put the
damn jersey on. It's because it was the first one
on the pile. Just put it on. And the other team, dude,

(12:12):
I'm scouting the other team. They all have professionally made jerseys.
Rich kids. They're the Clippers.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
And wait is it the actual Clippers logo?

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah? Oh damn yeah. And they have probably it must
be from Brentwood. They have probably thirteen kids on their team,
then kids from Franklin and they had about thirty. And
they're running drills, like practicing their plays before the game,
and I'm like, we've only been practicing two weeks, like

(12:44):
we've known our roster for two weeks. I'm looking at
them warm up and I'm like, there ain't no damn
way they've only been together for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Okay, so coach is working them a little bit before
the season starts.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I don't know how because we didn't get roster still
two weeks before the season, and this dude is running plays,
plays plays, Why they warm up and I'm like, okay,
they're not gonna be able to do this during the game,
that's fine. Whatever. We start out and oh my god,
they kicked our ass. I would have never saw that coming.

(13:20):
You didn't even have pennies for them. Yeah, and here's
the hard part, and they sound all I just wanted
to say, this is the frustrating part. So at the
beginning of the game, you line them up in mid
court and you stick. You tell them who they're gonna mark,
and they're only allowed to mark that player. Ain't soccer.
What are they on the pitch, they're on the court.
They're on the back of the hardwood. Guard. Yeah, guard,

(13:41):
And so you're supposed to say, okay, you guard twelve,
you guard thirteen, you guard whatever. The only problem is
they didn't have numbers on the front of their jerseys.
So how do I tell the kids, Hey, you guard
that person? They all look, they're all just kids. They
after about two seconds, they don't know which kid they're guarding.
If you can just say, hey, guard twelve, they know

(14:01):
to look for number twelve. Ours. They have the numbers
on the front in the back, so no matter which
way we're going, they know who they're guard. That does
make it different. It makes a huge difference. So do
you think it was just by chance or was attachable
by the coach and tactical Jersey's only numbers on the back.
All right, cool, all right? So I thought maybe maybe

(14:22):
we'll have colored wristbands that we can wear. No, we
don't have those at this league. All right, cool, all right,
all right, guys, so you're gonna mark that guy. And
then they sub out, and my kids are like, well,
which one am I supposed to guard? Which am I
supposed to guard? And they don't give you time. They
don't line them up once they come like sub so
you don't know who you're supposed to guard. Then I
got yelled at because I was inside the three point

(14:44):
line trying to coach my kids on how to guard someone. No,
you got to be on the outside of the three
point line. Sorry, man, there's our this is our second game.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
But are they being strict about or informative.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Uh, strict the refts like, hey, you gotta get out
of there. You got to get out of there, or
you play Belmont No, And so I'm all right, cool, cool.
So I realized my kids don't really understand how to
run an offense. You need practice. Well, they would come
down and their coach you would yell switch, switch, switch,

(15:19):
and one guy would be at the top of the key,
another one would be at the bottom of the basket,
and then they would switch, you need that play, and
their point guard would know to throw it down to
the guy underneath the basket. I don't even know if.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
We could run that play with you, me and a
couple of sales guys.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
No, we couldn't. And he was, hey, John, damn it. Switch.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I'm sure he just dad and add my coffee.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yet I don't give a damn switch. So my team
I kept saying, hey, guys, go down there and get
by the basket, and they would literally just stand by
the person dribbling the ball.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yes, so it was obvious your team end in practice.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
No, we practiced twice twice, That's what I'm saying. We've
only we've only known the team for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
It just seems like it's an uneven playing field. Kids
from Brownwood, kids from the inner city.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
And I'm like, all right, and the rule is you're
only supposed to guard one person. And once our kid
would get across mid court, because here's what I do.
Every time a different kid gets to dribble the ball up,
so they all get to touch the ball, and they
would cross mid court and they would send three people
to swarm them. I gotta come to one of these

(16:31):
and trap them, and they would steal the ball. Be swarm,
be swarm, d swarm, No, put on your bird. Ned.
We would cross mid court and that coach would yell,
git the ball, fit the ball, pit the ball, get
the ball. Put and they would steal the ball. Don't
let him get the ball. Don't let him get the ball.
And they would start going and our kids would run

(16:54):
run back and he'd be like, past, past the ball,
pass the ball, shoot it. Why are you not shooting?
Why are you not shooting? You guys were out matched
in every level of basketball, And I was just like,
what is going. This is four to six year olds.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
You guys didn't even have pennies, and this dude.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Is exactly. He is screaming the entire time, just like
I was doing basketball, Just like I was doing He
was screaming like that the entire time. How did you
not laugh? I was just like, man, what did I miss? Something? Is?
What is going on? Dude? Do my kids got old quick?

(17:32):
What is his middle school basketball? I was like, holy
jj Reddick calmed down on the sideline, man, what are
we doing? Phil Jackson? Give it a night? And you
would shoot the ball, be like, why didn't you get
the rebound? Why did you not put your hands up
and try to catch that. I was like, I didn't
do anything. I'm not talking to you. Oh you're talking
to the kid next to me. That's four. Sorry, man,

(17:54):
Like I don't know. Did you yell though ever about
your kid?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I'm just like I got a good job. Try to
get it, try to get it, pass it, you know,
anything you can do. We had no idea how I mean,
it was so bad. So at halftime we're down twelve.
Nothing Okay, I expected worse. Actually twelve nothing from form them,
form good, pass it switch. Oh, keep back on to
these go go go run run run run, get on

(18:19):
the floor, get on the foe, Get the ball, Get
the ball. What job did this guy have in his
normal life?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
No idea, probably a Wall Street exact, no idea, Church
Street here in Nashville.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
And halftime, I get the kids around, I'm like, are
we having fun? Yeah, yeah, we're having fun. You get
rid of you're ready, and I'm like, all right, guys,
you know when we have the ball, let's spread out
and like, go you can go in because on defense
they have to stay inside the three point line, so
they're thinking on offense they're not allowed to go inside
the three point line. Is that's where the defenders are.
You can go in there, and we actually, you're just

(18:51):
teaching that to them now. I didn't realize. Oh my gosh,
they didn't even know they could go within the three
point line. I don't know, you.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Guys were it so the poor kids. What a disadvantage, dude.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I get swarmed at half court and then they thought
they couldn't go into the mosh pit. The swarming at
half court was driving me nuts. There was a pitfall
of swarming. What the hell was this power warrior? I was?
I was? The swarming at half court was making me
so angry.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Actually, if I watched the game in March madnesson a
team did that, it would be annoying to watch.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Because I'm like, the rules are you're supposed to only
guard your man, right, So how can they swarm? I
don't know, And I wanted to say something to the reft,
but it wouldn't made a damn bit of difference because
they were better than us. I get it. Could you
guys dribble out of it? Or once they were swimming?
They were they were these weren't the fucking be high.
These kids are just now get out of the swarm

(19:51):
Bee's nest. Face face that swat them, swat them, get
the honey. If I heard swarm more than twice out
of deck to coach and then face dude, I mean,
these kids are just learning to dribble a basketball. Either're
getting and they're getting triple team bro, how would you
and me respond to a swarm at half court? Three

(20:13):
guys Bones, Gator and Rod come swarm me. I'd be like,
get the nuts off me. I mean, callaway, Miguel and
freaking I mean, come on now, and Buddy Glass, I
all surround us, like what do you We're not chugging? Guys,
get away from me, like get away anyway. So sorry.
So we're down fourteen and nothing a little bit in
the third quarter and baby Box two runs up to

(20:35):
me as we're getting back on defense. He goes, dad,
if we lose, do we still get the snacks that
the parents brought? And I'm like, yeah, dude, no problem,
it's okay, it's okay. And I mean this coach is
just yelling the whole time. We end up losing twenty
to nothing. That's bad, man, But that swarm, the poor
kids weren't even ready for the honeybee. I didn't understand it.

(20:59):
I will say, hell of a swarm there, Mark Uh.
I'll see you guys in the championship. I will say,
baby Box two did have us a block on a
shot one kid number seven that asked me, did I
get the number? Because I'm good. He did get one
headlock in playing defense. He just grabbed the guy by

(21:19):
the head and the refor was like, whoall, you can't
wrap him in a headlock? And then I will say,
baby Box he got a rebound, and I mean he
led the fast break. He came out the side, straight
down the sideline, outran everybody, and then he got swarmed
off the rim, didn't go in. And after the game,

(21:39):
we're shaking hands, and I mean, this coach the whole
time had been yelling get down, get back on, d
hurry up? Passed? Why you pass? Why did you shoot
that without passing? Why did you do that? Dude? I
know his job. That coach is a damn bee keeper.
And we shake hands out the words and we do one,
two three Nashville and we leave or whatever. And where

(22:01):
we're standing there at the words and baby Box goes, dad,
did you hear that other coach? He yelled so much?
He goes, dad. I would never want to play for him,
That's what it's all about. And I was like, he
goes he was so mean, and I was like, yeah, yeah,
he was loud. And there was another parent in the

(22:22):
crowd and they're like, oh, we played that team last year.
That coach was tamed today compared to what he was
last year. What double swarm? And I'm like, how could
he be any more tame? That's tame. Believe it was crazy.
And I forgot to tell you coming out of half dude,

(22:42):
he the other coach insisted we switched baskets. John hell
of a swarm. I see you guys never good luck
in life, because we we had to keep it professional.
So we had to switch baskets, you know, because it's
not confusing enough for these four to six year olds
which way you're going, and they're big sinner. He probably
weighed I mean, I know how much. He was a
big kid, brick house at two. He's he's walking by

(23:04):
baby box two. He looks at him and he goes,
you're going down, little kid, and gave him the throat slash.
Who are these kids? He came my four year old
the throat slash. Dude, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
He was just talking about cutting grilled cheese sandwiches, and
I mean it was just like he wasn't actually saying
he'd cut your throat.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
And I was like, damn man, he just gave him
a throat slash. And I was like, all right, And
so I made my four year old guard him. I mean,
he got he got out. He was outweighed by seventy
five pounds.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Did you shake hands with that coach?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, Swarmer, yeah. And I was like, good game, man,
good game, good game. And then assistant coach had an
Ohio State hoodie on I was like, hey, congrats on
that national title. Man, and my four year old later
in the day goes, dad, is there a reason that
coach yelled so much? Like did he not like his players?
I'm like, I don't know, son, I don't know. And

(23:59):
all my kids on the team. That was so fun.
That was so fun. But and baby Box kept going. Man,
we lost twenty to nothing. We lost twenty to nothing.
That sucked. Dude. If you ever see that coach out
at a grocery store gas station, you gotta be like,
see the warm, get the I mean, it was so crazy.
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Dude, you and me are at a gas station and
we see him.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
You start to go up and take the ball. Take
the ball.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I'm gonna go touch him up.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Swarm hey. Man. So we are now one and one
on the season. We lost twenty to nothing. Back to
the drawing board. My wife, as we're walking to the
car said, hey, don't worry. I took a few notes
of things we can work on. And I'm like, I'm
glad she's on your ass, and I'm like, what is it.
She goes, well, one, we need to teach them to rebound,

(24:46):
b We need to teach them which way they're going
on offense and and B and C defense. We need
to teach them to be between the man and the basket.
And I was like, yeah, oh, I understand because one kid,
because I want every kid to dribble the ball. So
I the person steps out of bounds and he throws
it to him, and the kid throws his hands up
like I don't want that thing. It rolls the mid
court and they got it and came down and made

(25:08):
a basket. It was rough, dude, But I've never seen
a coach gel like that to a bunch of four
and six year olds. And there's no damn way. They've
only been playing two weeks. There's no way, no way. Wow,
we are now one and one and we'll be right
back after this. Get the ball, shoot it forwarm, Get

(25:30):
it now, yo, dude, I need to I have it
written on the list. Ray's dad. I need to hear
the story. I saw it.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, So I tried to make hide er tail of
this one. Apparently Joe from Florida, You with.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Me, Joe from Sarasota. Yeah, he emails a lot. He
was on eBay or he was on some auction house.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Or he found this Oakland A's guy that was given out,
or showing you minor league players postcards of him, memorabilia, pictures,
different stuff, maybe they'd signed. And he thought to himself, Hey,
Ray's dad used to play for the Oaklan Aes. I've
heard him talk about it. Maybe I should search his name.
Maybe I should wait around and see if they say

(26:16):
a Slater. So a Dave Slater pops up and he
looks at him and he thinks, man, this could be
Rai's dad. So he buys it, then brings it to
the coaches convention and presents us with a postcard of
my dad, and then on the back it said, Dave Slater, Dude,
there's maybe two pictures I've seen of my dad when

(26:36):
he played for the Oaklan Ase. There was no photography
back then. This is the third artifact from when my
dad used to play baseball that has been unearthed. And
then my sister presented it to my dad and he
said that picture was taken on picture day. He was
eighteen years old. They paid him to grow a mustache.
The Oakland A's that was their thing back then. Roly fingers,

(26:57):
Raleigh fingers, and.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
It was just a random picture one of the photographers
took because they were taking pictures that day. That is crazy,
even crazier that Joe was able to do that. Joe
much appreciated, not a lot. I would imagine mind blowing
things happening. Gwynn, Michigan. My parents live a very quiet life.
I would imagine that.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Threw him for a loop when he saw that postcard.
Did your dad know it existed? Dude, There ain't crap.
I ain't heard any stories. There's one picture my grandpa
used to have, and then there was another one from
ten years even more black and white, that sometimes floats
around in family hallways. I've only seen two. One my

(27:41):
dad's on a knee, the other one just.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
In black and white. They have one wedding picture, dude.
The people from back in the day had a handful
of pictures and that was it. The fact that something
surfaced like that is pretty cool. That is incredible. And
my sister put it on the Facebook page. We may
need to throw it on the Instagram. Just get as
much as we possibly can from it.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
You have to put it on Instagram. I mean, I
would never think. Let me sit here and watch this, dude, I, dude.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I hope I made sense of that because Joe explained
it to me at a bar and it was loud
in there, and I asked him a couple times to
tell me.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
But it's something like that.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
It was an auction house drawings and the fact that
that even still existed, dude, it's been sitting.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Around for fifty years. Fifty two years. Some guy had
this postcard of my dad in his basement and he
was just auctioning him off. Joe paid like ninety nine
cents for it, dude, unreal. Here's the other thing. Who
keeps this shit like this? Dude? Like, is it really

(28:44):
worths his time to get on eBay and sell this
for ninety nine cents? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
So that just tells me maybe there's more pictures out there,
and my dad's not want to take a picture of
me guy, So I those two pictures that we've always
seen growing up, that's it.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
He didn't give a right you'd see him at my grandparents' house.
He never had him at home. My mom would never
put him on birthday cakes. We never saw the pictures
until we went to my grandparents and we go, Dad,
what's this picture of you? Oh?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It's when I played for the Oakland As. We never
saw this crap, never heard stories about crafts.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
So he doesn't tell you any stories about playing baseball.
Not really. He used to chew. That was it. My
mom made him quit. So they were together when he
went when he was eighteen years old. No, no, okay,
knew he used to chew, but they never dated. Then
he played for the Oakland A's and he went to
Michigan State. And he didn't play at Michigan State. He
immediately was drafted at a high school by the Oakland

(29:36):
Ase and it just he just.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Didn't get the home runs. You can see the stats
online Dave Slater. He got a lot of doubles, he
hit a little bit north of two hundred his weight.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
But it just never got the home runs he needed. Damn.
How long did he play for? Two years? Two three
years and then he just decided it was like, I
think that was it. I think he got cut really well.
He was also really in. He had a college degree.
So really, if I'm not gonna make it to the pros,
he's not gonna bounce around the minor leagues. Well, some
people do, I know, but I think he was also

(30:07):
on his way out, and he wanted really want to
do forestry, like he was in love with forestry. So
he had a degree, so I'll go do that. It
was a good run. And there was no money in baseball. No, no,
I understand that there was nothing. I mean there was
no advertisement. You got on a bus and drove around
the country. There's nothing. So if you don't see light
at the end of the tunme you probably that was

(30:27):
a good run. I mean, even nowadays, the minor league
baseball players don't make crap nothing. They make nothing. That's
why you think, oh, it's such a fun thing. But
these minor leaguers make jack crap like they usually live
with a host family because they so they don't have
to pay for a room or they get very cheap
room and board. That is so crazy. And your sister
posted on the Facebook page said Joe from Sarasota and

(30:50):
Amber Michelle, we can't thank you enough for such a
special gift for our dad. He said, fifty two years ago,
this was taking of him walking off the field on
picture day with the A's and finding this never before
seen postcard of him brought tears to his eyes and
all the memories came flooding back. Your kindness is so appreciated. Joe.

(31:11):
That is so cool.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Dude, sits on eBay for hours in hopes to see
a postcard of maybe a super famous person. But at
the same time he was looking to see if he
had just by chance mentioned my dad's last name and
then got it and said he kind of looks like Ray.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Maybe it is his dad. Dude, I got a question.
Does Joe have a job? I don't know? And what
did somebody say? No, that was something else, that was
something else. I had no idea, dude. No, hey, you
didn't mention. No, you didn't mention this during the live pod. Nothing.
I had no idea this transaction transpired. There was a
lot of transpirations going on at the podcast. Dude.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
But yeah, Joe, I would love to know what Joe does.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Man, Maybe he doesn't have a job. And we got
an email Rockett, Yeah Joe from Sarasota. What's up? Boys?
Another great convention is in the books. I think I
speak for all of sore losers Nation and it's in it.
You boys put on a great show. If you missed it,
here's a quick recap. We found out lunch has never

(32:14):
chopped wood. Ray had to take some nuts in the
face to escape a room. Muff showed us the proper
way to take a piss in public escape game. Dude,
do you know I forgot all about Muff pissing in public? Wow?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
If we could possibly not tell this story, Okay, how
just tell me what she do?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
We got off the party the Nashville Tractor, Dude, I
had to go so bad, and there's no bathroom and
we were outside that high rise. They have a two
security guards sitting at the front desk. Oh, I know
this now, And she ducked behind the flower pot and
let it go. Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I thought she faked like she lived there. That's how
she got in the lobby in the first place. Yeah,
so she could take a phone call. That's when the
lobby was open after a certain time. The lobby's doors, Dude,
it's bj lives there.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
You can't just walk in. So she acted like she
lived there, and then she was able to show in
the lobby and make a phone call. Yeah. Well, they
weren't letting her in this time. And there were six
planners out front, three on the left side of the doors,
three on the right side of the doors. She went
to the left side of the doors, right next to
the little ice cream shop in that corner behind the planter,
looked at the security guard mint down right there on

(33:24):
the sidewalk, and hopped right back up. Wow. Calloway kept
most of his clothes on and on. We only lost
Cappy once. The only drawback is I think my wife
is now in love with Justin See you boys next year.
Joe from Sarasota, Joe legend baby, come on give him
his flowers. Yeah, And then we got another email. The

(33:48):
wife and I have decided to make an appearance at
the five year Reunion. We are looking at it now, guys.
Unconfirmed and by that I mean the calendar. Let's go.
It's time to meet you in person. Besides you lunch.
We have met and been around each other plenty of times.
Plus I feel like Ray Ray needs some more bros. There.
Callaway and I will watch the sun come up together

(34:09):
on a nice park bench overlooking the Cumberland while we
watch dead bodies float by, and all of us losers
can watch the Cowboys in the playoffs at CC five.
If CC five is the last convention to ever happen,
I will be damn sure to be there and bring
my smoking hot wife cat Dick Cat Dick Catnick is in.

(34:33):
Then one more email from Bell. They just send an
email from Bell. They didn't write anything on it. I
think they hit send on accident before they could fill
it out. All right, are we gonna talk about the football?
You want to talk about the football?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Or we gotta take a break?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Let me see, I mean, we don't have to take
a break. We can talk about it, but go for it.
What do you want to talk about Let's take a
for a noon game. Hey, let's talk about it right
after this afternoon game. Ask kicking.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
It's a disservice the Commanders. You can tell when the
universe spats in your face. Oh my god, the Commanders
weren't supposed to be there.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
The Lions. You think about it, GoF. I saw the
tape back.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I get this is a game that already happened, But GoF, dude,
there was fourteen to ten.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
They're in the red zone.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
They're about to go up twenty one ten two scores.
GoF made multiple, multiple bad mistakes in the red zone.
Lions should have been the team there.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
And we saw I mean the commanders just weren't supposed to. Well,
that was we got spatted on. No, No, the commanders
did exactly what the Lions did the week before. Turnover, turnover, turnover.
It was like unbelievable. Everybody was turning the ball over.
Oh here Eckler getting up off the ground bat punched out.
Oh fumble, Oh fumble. I mean it was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
You're the announcer, he goes, Eckler's got small hands.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
I didn't hear that. I don't think you got to
put his business out there. That's kind of rude. I
mean he was, Oh, he was using his right hand
to get up, so he didn't have the ball secure
and boom, guy punched it out. Demmy Brown breaks one
for like twenty five yards. Fumble. I mean it was
just fumble. I mean it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I wonder who the brown guy was the whole time.
I was like, it can't be Hollywood Brown. Who is
this guy now?

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Dimmy Brown? He was drafted. He's out of North Carolina,
and I guess he got drafted before armand Saint Brown.
And he hadn't done shit for like two years. All
of a sudden, in the last like four or five weeks.
He's been fantastic for the Commanders, and.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I almost think that Aman Saint Lebron said he got
drafted above him.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, he goes, he kept a name, and he goes
he they drafted him above me. I'm gonna let him know.
I'm gonna let him know. But Dianmy Brown had just
as good a game as armand Saint Brown. Yeah. See,
it just sucks man. That game.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
That could have been an awesome Lions Eagles game. I
would say the Eagles would have ended up winning that
when the Lions were so depleted in the secondary, in
the defensive side.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I just specifically don't know if it's the secondary. I
just said that. But the command.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
You had to know what was coming because the line
was six, such a girthy line, and they played their
asses off, and if you really looked at the tape back,
they didn't.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
They didn't it.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Even though they beat the Lions by like twenty fifteen.
It's just not how it was supposed to go.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
I just watched that game and I said, Jayden Daniels
is fun to watch. Zach Ertz looked like he was
twenty one again. I mean, he was like just catching
everything over the middle, Boom ten yards, Boom ten yards.
Terry McLaren scary. Terry was absent from the game. Gota
tuggeddn't he. I don't even remember Tugger, But I watched
them that first drive and everything was difficult. They converted

(37:43):
like three fourth downs? How many fourth downs were we
going to go for? And they settled for a field goal.
The Eagles get it, and I don't know if it
was one player two plays. I felt like it was
two plays touchdown. Saquon Barkley's sixty yard touchdown.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I was like games zero, Saquon when he spins it
and you got four guys supposed to make it, tackle
another spin all the way the end zone. Ass thing's
probably over.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, And when we look at it, like we want
to name MVPs, right, and I said, Saquon Barkley should
be the MVP. The real MVP should be the Eagles
offensive line. They'll never win it because no one can
watch an offensive line be like, you know, that's the
best offensive line unless you probably played football or you're
a coach or something. But they make holes for Saquon

(38:27):
Barkley and Jalen Hurts to run through and the tush push.
Everybody says ban the tush push. It's called the Philadelphia finger.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
The Philadelphia finger. Here's the problem, and Justin explained it.
What you don't see and the cameras aren't gonna show you.
It's not just a hand on the tush. They're also
poking a little bit.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
If it was that easy, then every team would do it.
You watch the Bills try it numerous times in the
game after and they couldn't. They were terrible at it.
So something Philly is doing is awesome.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
It seems like a scrum and rub rugby. I mean,
you can't dribble the football, you can. Nobody does it.
We try to make sports not like the others. Now
you don't see a guy kicking it around. We try
to make these sports their own thing. When they do
the tushy push the Philadelphia finger, it looks a little
bit like Australian rugby.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yes, but they figured out how they do it. And
if it's so easy, if everybody wants it banned, no,
how about other teams just get good at it? Like
I cannot believe how bad the Bills every time third
and fourth and one. They could never get it. Except
for that one play, I will say I thought it
was a first down, the one where they went and

(39:36):
I reviewed it now stands chease ball. I thought that
was a terrible call. Oh we switched to the other game. Well,
I mean, what else were you going to talk about?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
There was a blowout, Philly headed to the Super Bowl rightfully.
So the only thing that could have turned me upside
down and bent me right over was the Commanders to win.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
They didn't.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I have I've come back from the dead. The Lions
sold me out. I almost lost every futures bet. I
had one remaining miracle and I needed Eagles and Chiefs
in the Super Bowl. So the Commanders were the only
ones to screw me. We moved it a later game.
It was a first down. Josh Allen got a first down.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
He got a first down.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Nance said it was a first down. Statutory said it
was a first down. I said it was a first down.
My cat said it was a first down. And that
wasn't the only one. There was also the remember that
fourth down play where the receiver they said it gave
it to the receiver, when it maybe was the defender
got the ball or it should have been an incomplete Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, the one where they threw it down
toward the end zone.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
The last option was it for the receiver to have
caught that ball.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
It's absolutely, it's absolutely the last option. It was an
incomplete pass. There's no way the receiver can have full
control of the ball if he only has one arm
on it. It hits the ground and then it slides
across his chest, and that's how you call it a
complete pass. It was that way.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
It was Josh Allen. He got the first down, and
then it's you can't even actually call this. What was
the kinkaid? Buddy catch the ball?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Oh man, what's it? What's with these ham hands? Dude?
Oh my god? I mean Josh Allen threw a dime? Dude,
you want to talk about making an unbelievable athletic play.
That not only did the Chief Stevens Spagnolia the deep
whatever the hell is Spags They call him the defensive coordinator.
He tricked Buffalo, he tricked Romo, He tricked everybody because

(41:26):
Romo's on there. Oh they're not coming here, Jim, They're
staying back. Oh my god. The corner came unblocked and
Josh Allen is able to get out far enough, and
I mean chunk that ball. He said. He took it
like it was a little nerf damn ball and threw
that thing like thirty five yards with two big ass

(41:47):
dudes barreling down on him. Couldn't even get his fall
Eugh behind it, and Kincaid dropped it. I watch, I
watched the whole first half. Hell of again. I mean
it was a game, that's what you wanted. It was
a disservice in the afternoon. We should have had two
of those just fully sensual games. We didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
The Commander's cost is that. But we got to see
Jaydon Daniels. We got to see how good he is.
But it was a Sunday jam pack with why we
love NFL football.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
And let me tell you, like, we're not gonna play
in the refs like the Chiefs made plays like, let's
not act like the refs gave them the game.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
And I'm also seeing this wave now where it is
a thing where people just are now know like the
conspiracy theorists, I actually.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Think there is a thing for the Bills and are
in the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
There's not There's not I get. I mean, it's frustrated
because look at the Josh Allen play. I mean, I say,
it's a first down. Did we ever see the ball
really touching the line? No, but we did it, so
I mean it could have maybe not been a first down.
The other one, I don't even know if that was
that big of a game changer.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
The actually was it put him down at the three
yard line. That on it put him down at the
three yard line. It was the better team Chiefs. Here's
the thing. Andy Reid is amazing. Andy Reid is a
better coach than Sean McDermott. The game plan the Chiefs
was so smart RPO and they used their speed everywhere.

(43:14):
They have no name receivers all over that team. Xavier Worthy,
you bite your tongue. That's a no name receiver. And
guess who they made a trade with to move up
in the draft to draft Xavier Worthy. Juju Smith Schuster
is a nobody. He got cut from who the Patriots
because he sucks. He hadn't had to catch in like

(43:35):
two months. I think Super Bowls blow out. I don't.
I mean, I haven't even thought about it yet, but
I just they come out and you think Kelsey is
the guy they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Go to They didn't go to Kelsey, they didn't go
to d Hop.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
They added like Kelsey didn't even exist. They said, you
can take Kelsey out of the game. We're first drive,
we're gonna throw it to Hollywood Brown, who hadn't played
all damn year, and he's gonna have three or four
catches on this first drive because he's so fast. Okay,
you're gonna start covering him. Guess what, We're gonna start
using the speed guy Xavier Worthy over here. Whoop whoop whoop. Oh,

(44:07):
you're gonna start covering Xavier Worthy. Well, throw it to
ju Ju Smith Schuster. The Kansas City Chiefs are fucking amazing.
It was our po run pass option. All they did
was rip and tear. It's all about Patrick Mahomes. Does
he want to rip it or does he want to
tear it? And then he sees if it's open or not.
It did bite him right in the taint that one
time when he dropped the ball. He did get you know,

(44:29):
he did tain't drop That's when the RPO can bite you.
But guys, Philly's gonna see that coming.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
And Philly gives their quarterback three point one to one
seconds to throw the ball. Patty is only about two
point seven. Jalen Hurts one of the top all year
with time to throw the ball. In the playoffs, Jalen
Hurts the number one quarterback with time to throw at
three point one one seconds. The Eagles, the Eagles, the Eagles.
You're gonna see that line actually flip because we're gonna

(44:55):
find out some injuries on the chief side. A three
ft doesn't happen for a reason. The Eagles are the
real deal and they finally got aj Brown cooking. Eagles
win by three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
I mean, here's the thing. I don't think Jalen Hurst
is that good at throwing the football, and I've said
that I don't think he's very good at throwing the football.
But I'm just I just want to talk about the Chiefs,
and we hate on the Chiefs because we're tired of
the Chiefs, but we should also appreciate greatness. It is
amazing how their game plan adjust every single week. They

(45:26):
have something new for their opponent, Like no one saw
Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy, Juju Smith, Schuster. This is proof
in the pudding that you don't need to pay these
wide receivers twenty million dollars a year. Yeah, it's it.
I mean, Kareem Hunt has come up huge. Dude. Did
Isaiah Pacheco die like I know he broke his leg

(45:48):
earlier in the year. Did Hartman pass away? Who? Hartman?
You don't need to play? Or is he hurt? I
have no idea he is hurt? Is he hurt? Okay,
I don't know, but I will say though, but Checko's
no longer good and used. He came back from the
broken leg. Kareem Hunt came back from the dead. He
came back from the hobless shelter. He wasn't even playing football,

(46:09):
and now he was serving soup at the kitchen. Dude,
Kareem Hunt is now a kitchen name at family households nationwide.
The guy was left for dead. He didn't even have
a team for the first four weeks of the season,
and all of a sudden, he's a starting running back
in the Super Bowl. Like, the Chiefs are amazing. They
spend their money properly. They they the coaching. The coaching

(46:32):
is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
I think it's the beautiful. It's the best thing ever.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
A villain.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
The villain is the Chiefs. It is a villain hero.
The whole country wants the Eagles. We got we got
aj Brown reading his book. If he could do a
touchdown where he reads the book, that's the celebration.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Hid it in the goal post, you know what I mean,
like they do with the cell phone, the sharpies, all that. Listen.
I just think coaching wise, I look at Andy and
I look at this buffoon Nick Sirianni. He wins games.
But if I am gonna take a coach that has
two weeks, oh my god, Andy Reid is gonna coach
circles around this dude, circles around this dude. Yeah, I

(47:14):
hear you on that.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
I think Philly's just far more talented than Saquan Dude,
that dude is. I mean, we're seeing one of the
best quarterback running backs in their prime in the history
of the game.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
He's so good. You can't stop that guy. Did you
see how many yards he's putting up? She's so damn good.
Think about it. The Chiefs. Who do they just play? Who?
The Chiefs just play the Bills? The Bills Ja James
Cook looks awesome. He's goods gonna they are gonna be gashed.
The super Bowl is gonna be one hell of a game.

(47:47):
It's not. It's not gonna be an easy Chiefs win.
I'll tell you that. And for that, the entire nation's
gonna love it. Here's the thing, and it's not even
like the dalton Kin kid, he drops it right, the
game's not even over then they just have to stop
them once and you can't stop Mahomes. You can't do it.
And also not believable. It is so like, it's so frustrating,

(48:11):
but at the same time, it is so awesome to
watch greatness and they are great. They need to not
allow going for it on fourth down? Dude? How annoying
was that though? When the Commanders went on for fourth
down for four straight times? I loved it.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I hate it.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
I wish more teams went for it on four It's like, dude,
that's what we do in Madden all the time. You
go for it. Nobody ever punts in Madden.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Why are we letting the I don't think they should
be allowed to go for it on fourth when it's
fourth you got a punt?

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Who's putting you in the trick plays? Who did the fake?
Oh Washington, dude? Okay, here's a question. This is another question.
I mean, Washington refuses to punt the ball because they
knew they needed to score points, because the Eagles were
gonna score points. Here's my question, and this drives me nuts.
Why is it do we wait until the bowl games

(48:56):
that mean absolutely nothing and Week sixteen and seven team
in the NFL season, when you're eliminated from contingent win it.
Why is it that's when we start running all the
fake punts? Why don't teams run fake punts more?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
I agree with you on that, and even nance yeah,
they've been they are not Nancy. It was probably Brady
on the call.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Oh it's hard.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
You know what's hard, Kevin Gearhart, It's hard to run
a fake punt. They say, they even said it, they
alluded to it. These guys practice this all season. Well,
then why don't you run it all season? You practice
it seventeen weeks to.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Run it one time.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
In the playoffs, every practice you practice it for twenty
minutes to run it one time. Dude, if it's that successful,
run it every time. I can't run it every time
because then they'll be on the lookout for it. I
get it, but there has to be different. There has
to be cat and mouse game with the punt because
there's not any more an on side kick. Your punt
needs to bring that excitement where they receive. They're like,
you know what, we'ren't even putting somebody back. Everybody up.

(49:54):
We need two guys on these receivers. Yes, because the
fake punt, when they actually run it, it's so fun.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
But it looks pretty easy. It looks so easy. The
guy looked wide open. He says, I was a little loveder.
Who And let me tell you that Josh Allen passed
at the end of the first half to mac Hollins.
That was a thing of fucking beauty. I mean it
was a touchdown. I mean he threw it and it
just let right over. He dropped it. He touchdown.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Another guy dropped it touchdown. I was like, that was
such a beautiful throw. Beautiful and Mahomes scrambling. What's the
I mean, he's so smart and but if.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
You really look at the stats of it, I mean,
Mahomes isn't the best quarterback in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
He hasn't even been that great.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
You see all season Mahomes had double the interceptions these guys.
He's not that smart with the ball.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Oh he is. Guess why they win games? Yeah, because
he makes plays when they matter. Yea. Their team is
so disciplined and they are so well coached that every
situation they are ready for it, and they don't clam up,
and they don't drop the damn ball. They don't Mark
Andrews the damn ball, they don't Dalton Conkay the ball.

(51:10):
Every seat, I mean, every scrub on that team comes
through everybody. Juju Smith Schuster couldn't even get on the
field with the Patriots and he's going to the damn
super Bowl because the Chiefs know how to do everything.
They are so good and they also know, Hey, these
are NFL guys. It's all let's let's coach him, right,
Let's coach them up the plays right? Like? Why does

(51:32):
some team and I don't even know, I think Spags
has been a head coach before. But if you're the
New Orleans Saints, because I don't know what the hell
they're doing, I don't know who they're waiting to hire
as their head coach. If you hire Steve Spagnolia or
Spagnola or Spagnanola, Spags, whatever the his name is, how

(51:52):
much do you weaken the Chiefs? Do they have another
decordinator that's that good waiting in the wings or is
it all in read? I don't know. But they are
fan freakingtastic and I gotta quit sucking them off. But
they are amazing.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
And the Eagles, this this was this is your time
to win it. The guys, there was no forty nine
ers in the equation. Yeah, and there was no Lions.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
This iss You just walked to the super Bowl. You
walked to the super Bowl with the easiest path ever.
It's them.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
They give their quarterbacks so much extra time to throw
the ball and Hurts doesn't make a lot of mistakes.
There's a lot of stats out there. I'm not going
to get too much into it. He doesn't make mistakes.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
There's a thing.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
There's these different stats like yards on the sticks, uh,
airflight of the ball, predicted air flight to the ball,
differential between air flight and predicted air flight to the ball.
There's there's time to throw the ball, which I had
already alluded to and talked about. There's a lot of
different stats that aren't out there, and Patrick Mahomes ain't

(52:51):
at the top of it. You know who is Jalen
hurts and I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Stats can line You know that, right, You can have
four hundred yards passing and lose a game and make
you think you're awesome. Not these quarterbacks, dude, not one
of them breaks two seventy five. This is a new NFL,
new NFL. We'll take a Break'll be all right back. Also,
one thing that drives me nuts, and I understand it's
the rule, but Brandon Hill on Facebook came up with

(53:20):
a great rule. At the end of the first half,
it's counting down to the two minute warning, the play
clock expires, it says zero, and it says two oh
one on the clock, but they don't call a delay
a game because some bull second it's blended. I don't
know what the hell that means. I don't want anything

(53:42):
to do with blended. When it says zero zero on
that clock, and it happens all the time in the NFL,
they give them a fraction of a second to get
the playoff after it hits zero zero. Brandon Hill came
up with a great idea. When it hits zero zero,
there's a buzzer that's a yeah, there is no delay.

(54:02):
They don't get an extra half second, because here's my thing.
When there's zero's on the end of the clock at
the end of the game, guess what the game is over.
They don't say, oh, well, you snapped it within it
half a second of it going to zero zero. No,
you call game over. So why do we do it
on the playclock? Make them get the fucking playoff on time?
It drives me nuts. And yesterday when they did it

(54:23):
again at the two minute warning, I'm like, this is
so stupid. It clearly says two oh one and there's
no time on the playclock. That's a damn penalty.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
And you know these meetings NFL ones, Dude, they got
some stuff to go over because there's all these Twitter nitpickers. Yes,
I mean but and you got the Chiefs bias, and
you got these uh pylon cams. You got whether a
ref makes a first down call that can't even see
the ball, oh man. And then you got another guy.
They show the ref going towards the ball and one
of the Chiefs players marks him off his line, so

(54:52):
then he comes in front of him, and then he
remarks one of him and remarks.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
It there has to be we have to go to technology.
We are in twenty twenty five and I hate technology.
I have technology stupid. But there has to be a
better damn way than these fucking guys holding the little chains.
That is the stupidest way to measure I've ever seen
in my life. Guys, there has to be laser beams
that you can shoot across the field. There has to

(55:17):
be something, because.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
We're finding out that the little chain links are usually
all the difference that it's gonna take between a first
down and fourth down.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yes, and the ref getting bumped off as he's walking in,
you have no idea When you're five yards behind the play.
You just kind of run up and kind of guess
where they fell. You have no idea. If we just
had lasers that shot across the field, we would know
every single time when there's twenty two people piled up
in the center of the field, you have no damn
idea where that ball is. You have no idea. Ninety

(55:47):
percent of the time. They do it for tennis. Why
can they not do it for ends? Why can they
not do it for the NFL? Quick because I am
tired of hearing the conspiracy theories and everybody thinking gets
rigged it's not rigged because listen, dude that owns the
New York Giants is not gonna be okay with oh yeah, yeah,
the Chiefs can win this year. No, he he would

(56:07):
make more money if the Giants won, So he was
the Giants one. He wouldn't put up for the bullshit
of it being rigged. Don't be stupid. It's not rigged.
It's frustrating, but it's also awesome to see greatness.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
But these conspiracy theorists are in full force now because
they really do think it's rigged. I know, I know, guys,
I know everything's pointing in that direction. I mean if
all the NFL teams I get the logo is red
and green, so that meant Chiefs in Philly were gonna
play a year. It could have also been other red
teams Texans, Bills, and then green teams.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
It could have been Packers, yeah, Eagles. Who else has green?
Go down the list, not Tampa Bay. So maybe just
those Jacksonville has tee they could have still been passed
office could have been passed off as that. The Jets, yep,
trying to think who else has forget anybody? No, you're good, Yeah,

(57:03):
I think I got everybody. I nailed all the game,
So guys, just stop. But it is gonna be a
great super Bowl. It's gonna be a great super Bowl
in that AFC championship game. The Bills, I mean, Josh Allen,
I feel awful for the dude, but it's so amazing too.
And the Chiefs, man, they got through the Ravens. They
got lucked out and didn't have to face the Bengals
at all. They didn't have to face the Ravens though.

(57:24):
That's the they got lucky. They had to face the Texans.
They got lucky Texans. But the Texans game a game.
They they won home field advantage, they took advantage of it.
They played the Texans. Texans played them well. Bills amazing.
They only lost two games all year, and one of
the games was when they rested their starters. Guys, they
are phenomenal. They It may not look pretty, it may

(57:46):
not be like eye popping because they're not flinging the
ball all over like they did with Tyreek Hill throwing
eighty yard bombs. It's they kill you with a thousand cuts, man,
and it is well coached, disciplined football, and it's crazy.
They are Alabama. And what's crazy with Tom Brady. We said,
we're never gonna see this again. Tom Brady retires in
holy shit, we already have amazing dynasty. We knew we

(58:09):
were gonna see it again. Patty Mahomes was who we
thought he is.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
But get this, the Chiefs just had a beautiful hand
when you're at the craps table, a beautiful hand when
you're at the blackjack table in Vegas. They didn't have
to play the Bengals. They didn't make the playoffs, they
didn't have to play the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
All they had Ravens. All they had to do was
play the Bills and they're in the super Bowl. And
the Ravens didn't suck. But you know what I'm saying, dude,
I'm done with the Chiefs though. I mean, it's time,
but it's time to be over. Though. Hey, Bence was there. Man,
he had a good time, because I mean their falling.
They're Kelsey. He's put on about twenty pounds. This is
but they show you they do you need to win

(58:44):
with Kelsey. They don't need Kelsey to win, right, But
they had to win one game. All they had to do.
The Texans were a joke.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
They've only beat one team and they did it by
some if he calls not a conspiracy thing. But so
into the Super Bowl, I think Philly wins by ten
or more, and then it's it's gonna make America, guys,
as much pain as.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
You feel right now after that game, because everybody wanted.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
The Bills Philly by ten. And in the end, the
era is over and a team does not three pet
in the history of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
It's going to be phenomenal. It's gonna be phenomenal. We
got a great matchup. It's gonna be so much fun.
Bills Eagles would have been fun. Chiefs Eagles is gonna
be fantastic. And god, I sound like I love the
Chiefs and I don't love the Chiefs, but I like greatness.
I was cheering for the Bills all game, and then
when they lost, I was like, damn, damn. But then

(59:35):
I'm also like, damn, the Chiefs are so impressive, so impressive.
I gotta get off their nuts. Man.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
All right, Buddy Glass and his chick watched it together.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Oh yeah, they're married.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Man.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
They went to the Martinez so they could intervene. You
know what I mean. Brandy and Eric O. Man, that
was a great weekend. Man, dude, we should get it.
You know what happened. I felt like the Commanders on
Saturday when we got blown out by We need to
hit up Chiefs. Hey, let's do another mini convention for
the Super Bowl watch party. We call him up, dude, Oh, no,

(01:00:12):
answer a new phone. Who's this? Oh yeah, we're trying
to watch the We're trying to have another store. There's
a convention, last minute super Bowl weekend. Sorry, run number.
All right, cool man, cool cool, all right man. And
Buddy Glass was right. He was drunk at the convention
and he kept telling me it's going to be the
Eagles and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, and you

(01:00:33):
gotta go on the air and tell everybody that I
said that. And I totally forgot he said that. But
he posted it on Facebook and he said, I told you,
I told you. I just knew it in my heart.
I wanted my bills, but I knew he was going
to be the Chiefs in the Eagles. Buddy Glass, I
tipped my hat. I said the Eagles at the beginning
of the playoffs, and I didn't get the other team right. Ah,

(01:00:54):
have a good Monday, guys. We gotta go. I gotta
draw up some practice plans. We gotta beat twenty to nothing.
There's got to be for improvement. We out and I'm
running all the numbers for the March Madness right now.
I'm gonna have it narrowed down to some really big
money makers. Dude, Vegas has no idea who's gonna win
March Madness. Well, let me tell you it's not gonna be.
It's not Duke.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I saw Duke for the first time. It looks like
the old suburban driving down Broadway. I mean, you want
to see something not smooth. Throw on a game that's
being broadcast in North Carolina, and Duke, that's just not
smooth basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Let me tell you about Kansas, man. Hey, they played
Houston on Saturday. I've never seen a bigger choke job
in my fricking life. Eighteen seconds left. No, no, no,
they were head by six. No, no, that's over. No, No,
that's in overtime, in regular time. No overtime. This in
regular time. We were up by five or six seven,
eighteen seconds, nineteen seconds with a minute nineteen to go,

(01:01:52):
and we lost and they tied it up in overtime,
we're up by six and Dwan Harris, who a fifth
year senior who's using as COVID year, gets up and
I mean, I had the kids in the living room.
They're bending their knees with the free throws, and we
get we get the rebound with eighteen seconds left and
we get fouled up by six, and I said, and

(01:02:15):
my boys, like, I think we're gonna win. I said, oh,
we're gonna win. Boys, we just gotta make one of
these free throws.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
They said, at that point in the game, Houston had
a four percent chance to win that game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
In in regulation, our last three possessions, we had two turnovers.
We had a shot clock violation, a dribblet out of bounds,
and we couldn't inbound the ball five second violation. Then
you go to ot and we missed the first free throw,
miss the second free throw. They come down, drain a
fucking three, steal the inbound and then we can't get

(01:02:45):
the ball in bounds. We call it time out. We
draw up this play. We still can't get the ball
in bounds. We throw it, they steal it, step back
three and I said, fuck fuck, And we come down
and we dribble the ball out of bound. We throw
the ball away, so they have one point five seconds

(01:03:06):
left to get the shot up. We needn't get a
damn shut off. They shoot it from half court, it misses,
We go to double and that dumbass steps back three,
step back three, and I just said we're gonna lose.
It's over. It's over. And my wife's trying to teach
the kids to have a positive attitude and they're like
and she's like, we can still win. They're like, yeah,
we no. Mom Dad says we're gonna lose. We're gonna lose. Ah.

(01:03:30):
I mean, it's rough man rough weekend. God, we suck
rock chalk choked. We are. This is the most frustrating
Kansas team we've had in a long time. We should
be so good and we're not. We got aj Store
from Wisconsin. Dude can't play a lick of defense. Are
Adudah our backup center. He played phenomenal on Saturday and Griffin,

(01:03:53):
who we got from Alabama, finally had a dominant game
and we lost. Then we lost because we can't shoot
for throws and we can't in bound the ball. I mean,
my four to six year olds throw the ball in
bounds better than you guys. Well, I mean, there is
no full court press, so they're wide open so it's
easy to throw it in. But good God, Swarm, swarm,