If the Walls Could Talk

If the Walls Could Talk

How did a group of bad apples turn a premiere Chicago hospital into a "butcher shop"? If the walls of Edgewater Hospital could talk, they would proudly share the years of good medicine before breaking down into tears recounting the horrible crimes done within those walls. Hear former employees, patients, FBI agents, lawyers, and urban explorers share what happened in this history / true crime podcast series.

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October 27, 2022 7 mins

It's not a coincidence that many celebrities who performed at Edgewater Beach Hotel wound up in the "private suites" at Edgewater Hospital. Todd recently joined Tommy Henry on the Chicago History Podcast to explain why and shared a few other similarities between the two buildings. 

Hear the full episode about Chicago's famed Edgewater Beach Hotel in Episode 503

Episode 306 of the Chicago History Podcast features Todd Ganz and Ste...

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There were other suspects in the mysterious murder investigation of Edgewater Hospital's Teresita Basa. In this special Q&A, learn about them and whether Reme Chua was considered a person of interest. Hear why one of Allan Showery's lawyers was later disbarred and find out about the odd connection to Edgewater Hospital's Peter Rogan and Roger Ehmen.

If the Walls Could Talk Podcast shares the true crimes that destroyed Chicago'...

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November 7, 2021 29 mins

Accused of murdering Teresita Basa, Allan Showery's trial began in 1979. Given the unusual circumstances of the case -- namely that police were tipped off by a ghost -- lawyers on both sides were challenged to convince 12 indecisive jurors. But it's what happened after the trial that still remains a mystery.

See pictures and learn more about the Teresita Basa case on our website: IftheWallsCouldTalkPodcast.com , Instagram and Face...

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October 31, 2021 33 mins

Teresita Basa was found dead in her Chicago apartment with a knife in chest. The beloved Edgewater Hospital employee had been murdered and set on fire in 1977. With few leads, the case went cold...until Teresita's ghost returned from the grave to identify her killer: another Edgewater Hospital employee named Allan Showery. Hear the shocking true story of one the most unusual murder investigations in Part 1 of this Bonus Episode.  

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Is one of Edgewater Hospital's doctors sitting on death row? Why did Peter Rogan get such a short prison sentence? What happened to the hyperbaric chamber? In this jam-packed Q & A episode, we'll answer those questions and a dozen others about the Edgewater Hospital saga. A panel of experts also discuss whether there could be another Edgewater Hospital.

Find additional photos and articles on the episode page of our website: If...

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March 21, 2021 36 mins

Dr. Maurice Mazel was Edgewater Hospital's temperamental leader who treated Hollywood's elite and turned his tiny neighborhood hospital into Chicago's premiere medical facility. For 51 years, he ran the hospital at 5700 N. Ashland Avenue like a hotel -- complete with bellhops, private suites and celebrity sightings. Learn why he collected urine from employees and whether the Chicago Paranormal Investigators found any ghosts in this...

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March 14, 2021 41 mins

Roger Ehmen served 6 years in prison for his role in Edgewater Hospital's fraud scheme. Roger shares how he managed to turn that darkness into an opportunity and, in the process, found his calling. Plus hear the shocking updates about Peter Rogan, Dr. Cubria and other players in the scheme in this tell-all "where are they now" episode.

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March 7, 2021 38 mins

Peter Rogan surprised authorities when he ended his extradition fight and returned to the United States in 2015. He faced up to 50 years in prison and a $1 million fine for obstruction and perjury charges. Meanwhile the long-awaited redevelopment of Edgewater Hospital finally commenced and unearthed plenty of surprises.

Learn more about how Peter's sentencing hearing finally made headlines -- for different reasons -- on the episod...

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February 28, 2021 46 mins

Edgewater Hospital closed in 2001, but the hospital still saw dozens of people come and go. Some of the many visitors were Urban Explorers who photographed the abandoned hospital over the 15 years it sat idle. One of these people actually went to the closed and abandoned Edgewater Hospital to receive treatment. Much to his surprise -- he found it.

See the numerous photos we referenced in this episode on our website: IftheWallsCoul...

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February 21, 2021 34 mins

After losing a $64 million civil suit to the government, Peter Rogan fled to Canada and lived in a swanky Vancouver penthouse. Even after the feds filed criminal charges, they struggled to bring him back back to Chicago. Meanwhile, the Edgewater Hospital campus crumbled and became a magnet for crime. The neighborhood demanded it be torn down.

See photos of Peter Rogan's yacht and haunting images of the abandoned hospital on the ep...

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February 14, 2021 36 mins

As a handful of Edgewater Hospital doctors and Roger Ehmen headed to prison, Peter Rogan walked away a free man. While not charged criminally, Peter was sued in civil court. The United States vs Peter Rogan went to trial in 2006 and featured plenty of explosive testimony. At stake were tens of millions of Peter's dollars.

See the photos that attorney Wes Johnson took in the abandoned hospital on our website: IftheWallsCouldTalkPod...

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February 7, 2021 34 mins

Fear spread through Edgewater Hospital that someone might be cooperating with the FBI and secretly recording conversations. Meanwhile some unexpected findings caused the investigation to come to a screeching halt. That left everyone asking: "Now what?".

Read the 58-count indictment on the episode page of our website: IftheWallsCouldTalkPodcast.com

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January 31, 2021 26 mins

An alarming number of patients ended up in the hands of Cardiologist Andrew Cubria. Dr. Cubria then performed unnecessary and invasive procedures on these patients. The FBI went undercover and learned that two people died as a result. Complicating matters: Dr. Cubria destroyed the evidence.  

See pictures of Dr. Cubria and learn more about the "heartless heart doctor" on the episode page of our website: IftheWallsCouldTalkPodcast....

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January 24, 2021 24 mins

The FBI had multiple doctors secretly record conversations in order to learn about the illegal ways Edgewater Hospital filled up its beds. In all, they recorded over 900 tapes. Their investigation took another sharp turn when an audit revealed Edgewater's Cardiologist doing an unusual amount of invasive heart procedures. 

Watch the cringeworthy TV news clip of Dr. Monty McClellan on the episode page of our website: IftheWallsCould...

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January 17, 2021 28 mins

Rumors spread that patients who weren't sick were being brought to Edgewater Hospital and treated on a mysterious "secret floor". The once proud community hospital suddenly took on a new identity. Before long, the FBI would start investigating.

See pictures of Edgewater's infamous patient: John Wayne Gacy and more on the episode page of our website: IftheWallsCouldTalkPodcast.com

Backdraft was filmed at Edgewater Hospital. Hear a...

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January 10, 2021 35 mins

Edgewater Hospital is the birthplace of Hillary Clinton, John Wayne Gacy and tens of thousands of Chicagoans. It was Chicago's premier hospital for 50 years -- but that changed when a man named Peter Rogan purchased it. The fraud that went on during Edgewater's final decade now overshadows the hospital's once-sterling reputation. In this true crime series, former Edgewater Hospital staff, patients and investigators recount the horr...

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A struggling Chicago hospital does just about anything to stay afloat. Its patients were subjected to hundreds of unnecessary tests, procedures and surgeries. By the time the hospital shut down, multiple patients were dead and its former owner fled the country. Left behind was an abandoned hospital that became a magnet for crime and Urban Explorers.  

If the Walls Could Talk recounts the true crimes and tangled history of Chicago'...

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