March 20, 2025 • 33 mins
The equivalent of the entire population of Levin have become jobseeker beneficiaries in the last 12 months, with more than 200,000 people now receiving jobseeker. How do we get people into work - and will things get better as the economy improves?
Also, The Wellington City Council pocketed $24,000 per week in fines from the new fixed bus lane cameras in Manners Street between June and December. The AA says it's abhorrent, and is punishing hard-working people from getting from A to B. Are these fines fair or should people know not to drive in bus lanes?
To answer those questions, legendary broadcaster Polly Gillespie and Hutt City Councillor and mayoral candidate Karen Morgan joined Nick Mills for Friday Faceoff.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's seven minutes past eleven.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Joining us for Friday face offers the legend herself broadcaster extraordinary,
Polly Gillespie. You're becoming a bit of a regular on
the show. I'm getting but worried people will start talking
about me and you.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
They'll be like, oh, they're getting her primed up for
when Nick you goes off to I don't know, Rule
the World or something.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
You know, she's bringing her in slowly.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Or you know what.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I heard that when I was about twenty eight that
they were going to make you the next great talkback host.
When you were on CMA, they were they were groovy, groovy,
grooby get it, and you just kept on being a
mused I did, yeah, Guru.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Well, yeah, I guess I just got comfortable and then yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
They always said to me, you're not.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
A ZM girl, You're a z B girl. And I
was like, oh, okay, I seem to be a ZM girl,
So I just carried on.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, so tell me about your new career, because I
have quietly heard you on a new path.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Tell us about what you're up to now.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
So I will be working for Trauma Recovery or where
we go into workplaces and help businesses in HR and
companies understand trauma and how trauma may have affected and
be affecting their workers to make sure that they're up
to standard. The twenty fifteen APPS said, you have to
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take care of your workers physically and mentally and make
sure that they're okay. And so we're going into training
and to help explain what trauma is, how to recognize them.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So often we don't know. No, so often we just
carry on with our life.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
We've been through a rough period, you know, you know,
not talking about myself, but we go through a rough
period and then you suddenly wake up one morning and
you're feeling down and flat and you say, why am
I feeling like this?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I should be okay now.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Absolutely, and we don't like to do still there's still
stigma around it. But trauma can you know, it can
happen in the workplace or it can happen out of
the workplace, or it can have happened historically, and you know,
bosses might think, oh they're being epathetic or lazy or
you know, what's what's what's with their attitude? They need
to find out what's going on. And that's where that's
where we help you.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Right now, we're going to talk to the latest newbie
on Friday. Face off.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Not I don't want to call you a newbie, but
you're the first time you've ever been on the show.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I read this article and have seen you interview, and
I thought, this is an impressive person.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'd like to get her on radio and get a
bit of an opportunity for people to have a listen
to you and what you're you want to do.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And then I read how when did you announce that
you're going to run for mayor?
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Oh? Killed and kill a poly I'm just over a
week ago, so it has yeah, a week and a half.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We'll carry on with my introduction.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Yes, so you want your show?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Oh yeah, Sorry, You're welcome to correct me because my style.
You can correct me because you're an ex school principal.
So if I pronounced things wrong, you can correct me
because Eaton does It seventeen million times a show. Now
you're on the Hut City Council and you've decided you
want to run for Maya. Now, firstly, I've got a
couple of questions personally, is why would you give up
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that huge salary of being a school principal and you
were making you were doing an extremely good job from
what I hear in the college.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Why would you give that up? Firstly to sit on
council and then now to run for me?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
So killed it everyone, And I'd like just to say
a big high to your listeners because I've got a
lot of family members and people who listen every day
to your show. So it's nice to be here and
nice to connect with them and you with these amazing
professionals in the room. But look for me, I think
my life's always been about service and about giving to
a community. And when you're a principal, not only looking
after staff and students, you're also connecting with Farno families
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the community at large. And so I got to a
point and thought, you know what, there's some things going
on on a bigger level that I think we can
do better. And I think that's always been my driver
what can we do better for the people, And it's
putting the people first, making sure we're connecting that whole
context around social cohesion.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
And I feel that with my leadership, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I'm ready to be there and lead leader community in
a different way and make it as positive and the
best it can possibly be.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So you're looking at that big round building down the
road as a next extension the behive on door.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
You know what, I've got some ideas for them that
might come out today, And a lot of it is
actually about stop being so divisive, stop being negative, stop
getting into that rhetoric, and actually how do we be
more supportive.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
And look after each other and actually start thinking strategically.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
It's systemic, that is.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
A little bit, but I think it takes people like us,
and it takes other leadership styles. Is they actually know
there are other ways of doing it. And you know,
just if I have a platform for a second to
think about things, I've always said there are some things
that should sit outside that three year cycle. So things
like health you're talking about, and you know now, Polly,
what that's all about it And I live that life
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as a principle in education.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
We see trauma all the time.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
So things like health, things like education, things like water, infrastructure,
they should be strategic things we think about collectively together
and not based on a three year cycle of whoever
comes into government. Because we're not getting it right at
the minute. So we do need to do a lot
better and when it starts in the community.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
So that's what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
And nonpartisan.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
It needs to be exactly exactly working together for the
betterment of the people, you know, on a bigger level.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Okay, right, let's start, all right, you've got us all
on notice, right, first question, Polly, coming to you.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
First.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
New Zealand's officially out of the recession following a zero
point seven g d P rise in December for the
December quarter. Do you feel personal No, no.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
As Trump is announcing America is going into a recession,
which I think they've been doing since twenty eighteen at least,
I think that to say that we're coming out of
recession as ridiculous. I don't know anyone in my group
of friends, the precariots, you know that we used to
be the middle class, but now we're sort of looking
at meat and going I think I'll be a vegetarian.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I can't afford this.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I don't see anyone celebrating that the gross domestic product,
that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Ages. I got topic and i'mic student at high school.
Very good most of it, Carve, You've got top of
everything science. But I don't think we're coming out of
the recession.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I think that's it would be nice, But I don't
see anybody that I know suddenly going yay, look at us,
we're on the rise. I think it's going to take
a long time. I think it's going to take till
midnext year before we see any change.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Now, Karen, I didn't actually use your name in the introduction,
which was completely rude and seriously disrespectful. So it's Karen Morgan,
and so every one.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Will know.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Were you giving the instruction. You're amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I got told off. I'm used to getting tell and
I am a bit nervous. It's from trauma when I.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Was at school.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I'm sorry to hear that. I can help you.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
They still they still came people like me at school
when I was So if I'm feeling a little bit nervous,
it is the trauma. But anyway, do you actually feel
right now that things are getting better.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Look that, I mean you you walk around and meet
and talk to the people. We've got people who are
working a full time job right now and they are
going to food banks because they just can't do it.
They can't make it work. You know, let's just say,
price of butter, what does that actually look like. I've
got a niece who's studying shit, doesn't even buy butter.
And you know, there are so many examples we could
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pick up here to say, and I'm even the optimist,
and I am and I'll put that out there.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
There is a light, this will change. There is a light.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
There's got to be and we've got to have that,
you know, solution based sort of thinking. When when if
we approach anything, but right now, people are feeling it.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
You know it's hard, but it's super hard.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Let me just say, on butter, you look like I
look actually google the price of buttons around around the
area right too. And then I have to go will
it be worth going to the warehouse because the petrol
are so yeah? And then I have to try and
work out in my head is it going to be
cheaper to go to a new world just down the
road and buy it for nine dollars or go to
the warehouse and get it for sex.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
And it's you know, it's a toss up, it is, yeah,
and we're.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Making those decisions. Can I afford the petrol or the butter?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Are we coming out of a recession? Well not yet.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Well it's interesting if you want to talk about butter.
They had the Indian because obviously there's a government party
of about a million people over from New Zealand over
in India. The moment they showed the price of butter
in India which was actually half the price or a
little bit more than half the price than the butter here.
So are we going to import our butter from Yeah, let's.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Not start on that.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
It's a bit like the job discussion and you know
going overseas to you know, getting school lunches from Australia.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Oh well, you know, well you did start.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, okay, so let's let's quickly get an idea. So
the figures are not going to make any difference right now,
we're in hard times. Do you think it's going to
be a quick result.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
It's definitely not going to be a quick resolve. It's
going to take time.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
And it's going to take a lot of effort from
everyone working together on this to see the changes.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
It will change, but it's going to take time.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You think it will change, I do.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
We have to believe it has to change. We have
to make it change.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
So what are we also doing locally that can help,
working as partners to make things change, To look after
those people and help build and empower.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Them more, we lift them wild await government.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, and doing things differently, you know, thinking outside the
square and like you're doing Polly with your work, those
sorts of things to really lift communities and help them
in different ways. You know.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Them, they wouldn't it be nice to feed them?
Speaker 6 (09:52):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Right, time for a quick break, get our breasts back.
Polly Gillespie and Karen Morgan on Friday face off and
Karen is and you be so if you want to
know a bit of background on Karen, I will tell
you because everyone knows Polly.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
No relation to Gareth.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
She was a college principal. She's an educationalist. That's what
I call them. You're an educationalist. Would you say you're an.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Educationalist, I'd say I'm a leader in education, leader, educational.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Educationalist.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't know, but it's my word. I've used.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Everything's education, right, so everything we do is.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
School.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You're an ex school principal and now you're currently a
hut City councilor and you're standing for mayor at this
coming elections. Whose talk said, b It's Friday face off
with Karen Morgan and Polly Gillespie.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Do we call you Polly Gillispie or do we just
call you Polly? When you become super famous, you only
have one name.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
It's like me Madonna share you were just yeap. Most
people call me Polly, but Polychlisi. Do you want to
use my whole name Nick Mells? Well fine, you.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Please do not use my full daks. People won't know
who I am. Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Benefit numbers have gone up by twelve percent in a year,
more more than two hundred thousand people, despite the government
tough talk on reducing numbers. Remember they said the government
said when they came in they're going to reduce them
by fifty thousand over five or six years.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Karen, I'm going to start with you there. The entire population.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Now, I don't know whether you've been to live in lately,
but the entire population of living has moved into the
benefit in the last year.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Does this slightly shocking?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Oh? Look, it's really sad actually what's happening? And you know,
you talk to some people, especially in this region, and
they go to work and they're not sure if they're
going to have a restructure or what does that look like?
Am I actually going to have a job tomorrow? And
that's kind of the feeling out there. And I think
part of that is, you know, we need to start
thinking strategically, how are we investing in our locals. How
are we valuing our talent and our capabilities and our
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businesses here to ensure that we're looking after them for
job creation. You know, I think about an example. I
touched on it before and I won't go into it
too much, but let's look at the lunch program that
gave local communities and people in the in those communities jobs.
It was fantastic. These kids were getting amazing meals. Now
that's all changed that now, you know, to think that
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we go off source to Australia. Not about Australia, don't
that's fine, but you know, we're going to Australia to
bring in food for our kids in.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
New Zealand and crep food coming instead.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
And so where we're when we say we're looking after
where is the investment in what's happening locally?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You know, I don't understand. Okay, actually sorry, because that's
a big thing for me. The lunch, the lunch program,
I don't get it. We in New Zealand, we make
good food, we have the facilities. Why on earth are
we getting crap food from Australia and it's not into
Australian as you.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
See, you know what the hell's going?
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Yeah, so where's the thinking? And that's for me, where's
the strategic thinking?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
And you know a lot of the barriers for our angatahi,
like our under twenty four getting into jobs now and
I know someone who there were four hundred people who
applied for a job. But one of the barriers is
driver's license. You need to have a driver's license and
without that license, our young ones just have these barriers,
consistent barriers. So what do we do. We've got to
change things and make these more it's not just accessible,
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you're not.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I have applied for jobs and there've been one hundred
and fifty two hundred. I amplicants for a sales tripping
job or a job that normally you might have got
ten people applying for for one hundred and fifty two
hundred people applying for each job.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So I mean, how do we change it?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Poly?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Come on, tell me what we do to get more
people working. I mean, everyone rings up when I do
it as a topic and says, are the people that
have you know, drugs, alcohol problems?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You know, they don't really want to work.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It's rubbish. There is that element, there will always be
that element.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But it's not two hundred thousand, No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
There are so many people that I know, and I
went through looking for work too, and it's hard because
there are two hundred applicants applying for each job. I
guess with all this restructuring, which we used to call
being laid off, now the new HR term is we're restructuring. Basically,
you want to get rid of you because we can't
afford you. Why these businesses not able to afford to
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hire people or keep people on what's going on?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
So are they? It comes back to that, doesn't it
Why a business is.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Laying people off or restructuring, and therefore why are we
losing all these jobs?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
So we need to have a look at that. We
need to understand why that is happening.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Karen, Can I come back to you and ask you
from your educational days right year thirteen I call it
seventh form year thirteen?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, how many of those kids? And you'd know every
one of those kids and your year thirteen because you'd
had them a couple of years. And if you're as
half as good as principle as I think you would,
you would know every single one of them. How do
you feel when you look them in the eye and
thinking that this is going to be their last year
at school? And do you actually feel that they've got
a future?
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
They have a future because they're smart, they're intelligent, they're capable.
And also I think you know it's maybe one of
our topics later, but you know what schools are doing
now to invest in their young ones is amazing.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
So this whole trade looking at you know what we're doing.
Schools are investing.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Sadly the resourcing hasn't been there from central government, but
schools are investing so much for their future, for their
young ones because they are our now. They are our future.
And so I know at Tider College we had programs
running that were very different.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
How many of them would have been like me, you
and Polly. Yeah left school. I left school and a
lot earlier than you guys did, but I left school
to go to a job. How many of those yere
thirteen kids are leaving your school knowing they were going
to go to university or had a job.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yep, we would actually track them, so we'd say probably
ninety five ninety ninety five percent were we would actively
make sure they had a pathway, a many full pathway
into either a job, further learning through for today a polyitech,
or going to university. But most of our kids were
actually going into that polytechnic space. Yeah, ninety to ninety
five percent, for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's amazing.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
There's some kids obviously who just but there are so
many different courses and.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Programs now, and so some need a little bit more
helpful development with different things to upskill, and then they
can go at like bridging courses kind of thing, and
then they.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Can go into different areas.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
So these things happening, but you have to invest and
know your kids and know you you know, know the people,
and then be able to help them, guide them into
the right direction and support them.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Here, how do we get to two hundred thousand.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Then here's a story for you.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So my boys went to Scott's College, right, great school,
great school. But at the end of the year, at graduation,
every boy in year thirteen went up on stage and
said what they were planning to do. And you know,
let's say there were one hundred boys, and it was like, well,
I'm going to go vic and do law. I'm going
to Otago and doing medicine. I'm going to and then
one boy out of all these boys said, I'm gonna
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I'm going to be a trader.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I'm going to be a carpenter. The whole audience laughed.
I didn't laugh. I thought, why people laughing?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Do you know that boy now owns a building company
is probably richer than all those kids that went to
university and are now going, Well, I've got a fine
arce degree and I've can't get a job, you know,
But that's that was the mentality of you're.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Not going to university.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
We are going to talk about that because we did
it on the show and it created a lot of talk.
So we will bring that up we have with us
in the studio, Karen Morgan and Poly Gillespie. And have
you thinking yourself, where have you heard the name Karen
Morgan before? Well, she's an ex tier college principal and
she's on the city council of Hut City or Lower
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Hut as old timers call it, and she is going,
she's put a name forward and she's going, she says,
to win the mayoralty in Hut City.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Can I say that? No, I can't.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Well, I'm not going for second.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Can you remember when Hut City or Lower Heart very
briefly had that slogan right up my Hut valley?
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yes, I don't remember, but yeah, yeah, yeah, there's come
up recently.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Actually, think about it. I remember it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, yeah, Holly, I remember it. Used to call it
absolutely positively. Well, they wouldn't be calling that right now,
would they.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Moving's pretty hilarious, right, No, right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Let's talk.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We started talking about the educational stuff and having you
here in the studio, Caren, we've got to push it
a little bit harder. An education expert is saying that
not enough young people are going into the trades and
apprenticeship system needs an overhaul. He wants to see schools
doing more and is suggesting they offer a thing like
a trades preparation qualification to create a new pipeline of it,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Instead of having university entrance trades entrance, you know what
I mean. So that it's just as say, what are
your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Oh, one hundred percent agree, this is really important. But
this has actually been happening for years in schools. People
and schools have been investing in this trades vocational space
running their own programs.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
So I talked before about not enough resource going into it.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
So what happens is as a school I have to
create that space and pay someone to run those programs,
you know, on on top of it already you know,
running a normal program and timetable.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
So it's that investment.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
And I think but the bigger argument and thing that
we need to talk about in the narrative is that
for too long now there's been a dumbing down of
vocational trades pathways.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Absolutely, you know, and it's and it's unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
In all of my educational practice, it's been about this
is just as viable, just as important, This is just
as successful as going to university. University is a great path,
but it's not.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
The only part.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Everyone right, and we're channeled into thinking that that you're
just not a success if you don't do this, and
that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
The thing that you you you both probably be the
same as me. The wealthiest people I know own plumbing businesses, electricians, builders,
they're trades.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
People that didn't go to university. And yet we when
sent you have to go to university.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
But also those programs, now you know the polytech that
fit today. They're highly skilled, highly technical programs. They are
really professional lines of work and learning that they have
to do in order to carry out those jobs.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
So it's such a viable option, and yet we need more,
but we are Can we do that?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
How can we get people to think like that? Because
I did that with my eldest son. I said, you've
got to go to university, got an economics degree, then
went back got a law degree, and he's working in
our family business. He doesn't use a law degree, he
doesn't use an economics Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I made all my children go to university. My daughter
should never have done that. She should have gone to
design school or something.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
You know, she's artistic.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
She shouldn't have gone Queen Margaret, she should have gone
to Wellington High. But you know it was there was
something about the generation where we had children in the
nineties and early two thousands, where we just wanted them,
you know, like we drove them to school, we pecked
them up, We made them go to all kinds of
ballet and chess and karate and swimming, you know like,
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and we just wanted them to excel.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
And we thought that going to university was the path forward.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Was it our own ego?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I think it's I think it came from where we
came from, where.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
We had to get an education. We had in education.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
But also there was no pressure when I left school
to go to university. I did overseas, but it was
like I could go and walk out and get a job.
I could just go and get a job. Yeah, you know,
I just go in somewhere and get a job.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Can I just say one thing on that, especially for
the listeners, because if I could ask, you know, our
parents in fun No to do one thing, it would
be listen to your kids, you know, listen to what
they love, what they're passionate about, because who cares what
they do? You just want a happy, successful child, a happy, contributing,
active participant in your community. And that's what's important. That's gold,
(21:34):
that's the heart. It doesn't matter how much money you make.
I mean, if that's your drive, yeah, go into plumbing,
because I don't know what you guys have had anything
fixed or plumbing or anything you know at costs. So
if it's money's your driver. But look, it's about what's
important to that individual. And everyone's different and you can't
just put them in the same box or say, look,
this is what's happening. So so listen to your kids,
(21:55):
listen to what's driving them, and then make it happen
and give them opportunities. And I think that's what the
trades do. That's what vocational. I called them meaningful pathways
because they've got to have that meaning of where are
they going and actively set that up.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Okay, yeah, I've got this one. I want to get
out really quickly before we go to an ad brace.
So if you could keep it really quickly good. The
Act party this week.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I wasn't meaning that in a disrespectful way.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
A party this week, take On, has said that they're
going to take on local body election, saying it's time
for a shakeup, poly do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's time for a shakeup. I mean, I don't like
party politics.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
I'll tell you what this is how I feel about it.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Because, of course, as David Simul said this week, if
Jesus was voting, he would have voted for ACT, which
I think is the most hilarious thing I've heard for it.
Sometimes i'd like to know if what people's politics are,
because I wouldn't vote for a candidate who was an
ex candidate. So I'd like to know if you want
to tell me who you align with. I want to
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know your social sensibilities. I want to know how you
stand on things that are important to me, like social justice,
like reducing poverty, all of those things.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
So if I know what party you belong to, I
know a little bit more about you.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Wow, I'm Karen. What are your sorts?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Yeah, so I have a pretty firm stance on this,
and I actually believe you should be particularly running for
council and mayor particularly running as independent. You're here to
listen to your constituents. You're here to listen to the people.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Know what if you're an ACT If if you're an ACT,
dread I think I dread the more that you get
to know, the more that you connect.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
And that's what I'm about, is connecting and being transparent
and being you know, an inclusive leader.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
I think you will know very quick. I know I
have got what I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
About and what I do, Skaren, I haven't worked out
and I normally can work it out pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I haven't worked out whether you left or right wing.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
No, okay, let me clarify this because you said act little,
short little, Let's just talk about that for a minute.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
You serious?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
And what concerns me about things and schools and politics
getting into local body and when we've got a space
for that is what concerns me is with things like
ACT around the.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Ideology that's very divisive.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
When it starts dividing a nation, then that's not okay
and the people do not like no, and it's not acceptable.
So for me, I have a very different Kopappa, a
very different ethos, different ethos, and that is about actually
bringing people together, building that social cohesion, and that's what
we need more of.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Polly was pretty clear on her view on the politics
and local council. What are yours.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Shouldn't be there, shouldn't be there, but I can be transparent,
but I don't think you should be funded by a
party to run a city because your influenced.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
But I'm not going to vote for somebody if they
are really right wing, if they if they support Brian Camacky,
if we're act, I'm not going to vote for them.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I see what you're saying, and I googled you, and
I'm clearly you're not. Clearly she's not right wing.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Because not right your homework.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm going to clarify this.
I want to clarify this. People always say I'm right wing.
Do you think I'm right wing?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I think you're central, slightly right.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh you see, I'm not. I'm central. I have no
political sway either way. I want people.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I want every single person to have the same rights
in life, every single person.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
So you're totally central, totally central.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And I want to see people become rich, and I
want to see poor people try to become rich, and
I want to help those poor people become ritchel or
get them.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Where they need to go.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
You're a help them up.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, So I don't have any You don't have to
label me to you.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
You do not have to l I can't say any
of that.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You don't have to label me.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I'm just saying but that's that's what's wrong with politics.
You have to label people. That's why I shouldn't have
asked you. But Ethan was asking.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
He the things I want to know.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
I want to know, Yeah, and I think you should know.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
But I think that's also about doing a little bit
of homework as well, because you should be making the
right vote for who you want.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
To be, not part of Yeah, I agree with Karen.
Got to take a short break. I've got to take
a short break. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Joining us for Friday faced off as Karen Morgan and
Polly Gillespie. I did the story during the week which
kind of really agitated me. Well in the City Council
of pocketing twenty four thousand dollars a week for fines
from a new fixed bus camera in Manu Street between
June and December.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The AA says it's apparrent apparent.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's a great word partner, pugnant, and is punishing hard
working people from getting from A to b's. Polly, what
did your thought when you first saw the story.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I think the signage is the problem.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
It's a bit like if look, if there were big
signs going, if you go down this lane, you're about
to get fined, you know, like flashing like the road
to work signs.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Right, But it's a bit sneaky.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
So unless you had read up about it and knew
it was happening, you know a lot of people don't know.
And if it's not, it's a lack of signage. It's
the same coming down is it Adelaide roads?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
There's no signage?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Have you ever been ping with Karen? What are your thoughts?
You wouldn't have that lower heart, would you look?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I guess I've got to be very careful now because
my whole COPAPA is about working collexively with Wellington read
in the council, and I think that's really important. But
one thing I think you can always look at as communication.
It's what you're saying. And I think when we make
decisions at whatever level and we're rolling something out, it's
so important we're connecting and actually communicating that really clearly
because that's where people and excellent you know, things go wrong.
(27:23):
So we can all improve in our commutations.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Can I just quickly ask you because I just want
to quickly ask you with you think that we should
combine the upper heart and wanting to with one council.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Oh, I think it's definitely something we could look at
and should look at.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
But what do you think do you think it actually?
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I think it could totally work.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Yeah, I think I think we can get too in
our silos and too protective of that, and the more
we're working.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Collaboratively to get the better. Yeah, at least look at
there's lots of things at water.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
We won't get into that, but how do we do
things better, you know, to save money for our rate payers,
to actually make things make sense?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Would you if you were the person making the decision,
would you have voted for change Welling to water after.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
What we heard change in Wellington water?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Almost?
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Thanks nice segue here, Yeah, we're not getting political next.
I thought that's a.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Nice I'm sure there's thirty four thousand people out there
listening to the show thinking I wonder whether.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Here's some water and we have to do water. Water
is a tongue, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
A you know an I'll ask you another question.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
There's been discussion that the Labor MP wants to put
the law change to prevent employees from punishing staff who
want to tell their colleagues how much they earn.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, I mean you both would have seen it. It's
really funny.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Found well someone that used to end billions of dollars,
Polly and everyone used to walk past your studio say
well if I got ten percent of what her and great.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
The thing is, I was brought up that you don't
ask a woman her age, and you don't talk about
how much money?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But should it be should it be okay for you
to absolutely?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:55):
And I think it's about transparency.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
And you know what's not okay is still today twenty
twenty five, women are not getting paid the same as men.
Look at our iniquities with Marty pacifica, is that okay?
And absolutely not okay? And why because it's all head
and lots of head and all we won't talk about.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Were you on the same salary as the male principle?
Speaker 7 (29:13):
For you, I couldn't tell you. How would I know that?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
You know?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
But we're on a scale generally, so so teachers are general,
but there's different perks.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Don't worry. So I know people who get cars and
all sorts of things.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I'm not saying that because principle's do a damn hard
you know, So I'm not going to comp AVT to anyone.
But it isn't a level playing field out there, so
that's n't predictable.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
So let's put it on the table, right, be transparent.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And if you don't want it doesn't matter if if
somebody says you how much you earn you and you
can say but I don't piny.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I could guarantee.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And I've known you for a long time and I've
worked in the studio next to you when on a
part time basis for a long time. I know that
if anyone and even leaked out what you were earning
in the big times and the crazy days, it would.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Have been a war.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
There would have been a war, zid me, you would
have but I think smoke would have come out your ears.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
No, No, I know that I was making.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I think Mike Hosking was making more than me, and
then it was me, that's what I know, Yes, Mic
Hosking and then me. Yeah, and then now they must
saved a lot of money getting.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Rid of me, right, yeah, give it to me, look
at it fifty into.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
But is money the driver?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Right, It's not bad I've been I've had money and
I've not had money have money, but even to.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Have money, you know, like bands, so people knew where
you were kind of in that for a spouse start around.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
Transparency would be a good step potentially.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I think people should be able to talk about it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
The Friday hot.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Okay, my favorite time of the week is to ask
my guests what the hots and nots?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Come on, Polly, tell me what your hots are? First?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Okay, hot would be interest rates coming down, because I
think people who've got mortgages that's going to mean a
lot to them.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
That's going to mean being able to buy butter.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
So I think interest rates coming down and being able
to buy butter, specifically butter, it would be. My hot
might not be school lunches, the repugnant, horrific, horrible nightmare
that is the school lunch scandal. We were getting our
sculnches from Australia and everything's screwed up and they're too
hot and they're not kosher and.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
It's just it's just ludicrous. So that's that's my bignot.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Karen, what's your hot?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
I guess my hot has to be that I'm running
for me here.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
And I've just honestly been so overwhelmed by amazing response
in the last week and a half and you're so nice.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
But I actually wanted to say.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
A big bocaded both of you because you know, after COVID,
we've had so much going on for people, and when
you are in your jobs such as you are the
voices of reason, you're that that comfort, You're that reassurance,
you're that support. You're actually changing lives via the radio
and what you do and your messages. So I just
want to see say, Namahika Kordua, thank you so much
for what you give to the community and the service
(31:49):
that you're providing, because honestly, people look to you, they
listen to you every day because they you're part of
their lives and you're like their friend and their guidance.
So you're helping us keep our walker steady here in Alta,
and I say, big hits up.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
It's very very impressive.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And you're not hot?
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Am I not hot? The health system.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
It really concerns me when I talk to people about
what's going on, and you know, so locally to change
it not hot to around you know, I'm trying really
hard in the Hut. Now I'm working with health professionals
in the Hut city to actually take take health to
the people in the hubs and actually get it out
there so people feel comfy, they can go, they can access.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Health in a more readily way.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
And even if it was something like doing diabetes testing,
which is one of the biggest things right now that's
impacting people, we get it to you know, we can
change lives by getting out there and taking health to them.
So we've got to change things. We can't wait for
central government. So what do we do as active partners?
And that's the sort of leadership I want to provide
and I want to make some of those things happen.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
So that's me.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Thank you both, Thank you so much. Great to see
you both. Great to meet you.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Karen, all the very very best. We'll stay in touch.
We'll definitely ask you for your opinion. Potter, You've got
some y.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I just want to say thank you for leaving me
Borrow sapreiscous the other day to do film that doco
thing I was doing.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Oh it's a fantastic venue.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
And if I ever get married, which is highly unlikely,
going to have my reception there best venue in Wellington.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Oh there you go, that's a plugge nothing. I'll get
told off now again. I've got ty stolen off for that.
Why did you let it talk about your your own
business on.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Radio? Thank you both so much. It's seven minutes to twelve.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I'll come back and wrap the show when I escort
my guests out of the studio.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's seven minutes past eleven.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Joining us for Friday face offers the legend herself broadcaster extraordinary,
Polly Gillespie. You're becoming a bit of a regular on
the show. I'm getting but worried people will start talking
about me and you.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
They'll be like, oh, they're getting her primed up for
when Nick you goes off to I don't know, Rule
the World or something.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
You know, she's bringing her in slowly.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Or you know what.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I heard that when I was about twenty eight that
they were going to make you the next great talkback host.
When you were on CMA, they were they were groovy, groovy,
grooby get it, and you just kept on being a
mused I did, yeah, Guru.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Well, yeah, I guess I just got comfortable and then yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
They always said to me, you're not.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
A ZM girl, You're a z B girl. And I
was like, oh, okay, I seem to be a ZM girl,
So I just carried on.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, so tell me about your new career, because I
have quietly heard you on a new path.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Tell us about what you're up to now.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
So I will be working for Trauma Recovery or where
we go into workplaces and help businesses in HR and
companies understand trauma and how trauma may have affected and
be affecting their workers to make sure that they're up
to standard. The twenty fifteen APPS said, you have to
(01:50):
take care of your workers physically and mentally and make
sure that they're okay. And so we're going into training
and to help explain what trauma is, how to recognize them.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So often we don't know. No, so often we just
carry on with our life.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
We've been through a rough period, you know, you know,
not talking about myself, but we go through a rough
period and then you suddenly wake up one morning and
you're feeling down and flat and you say, why am
I feeling like this?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I should be okay now.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Absolutely, and we don't like to do still there's still
stigma around it. But trauma can you know, it can
happen in the workplace or it can happen out of
the workplace, or it can have happened historically, and you know,
bosses might think, oh they're being epathetic or lazy or
you know, what's what's what's with their attitude? They need
to find out what's going on. And that's where that's
where we help you.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Right now, we're going to talk to the latest newbie
on Friday. Face off.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Not I don't want to call you a newbie, but
you're the first time you've ever been on the show.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Now.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I read this article and have seen you interview, and
I thought, this is an impressive person.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'd like to get her on radio and get a
bit of an opportunity for people to have a listen
to you and what you're you want to do.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
And then I read how when did you announce that
you're going to run for mayor?
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Oh? Killed and kill a poly I'm just over a
week ago, so it has yeah, a week and a half.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We'll carry on with my introduction.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
Yes, so you want your show?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Oh yeah, Sorry, You're welcome to correct me because my style.
You can correct me because you're an ex school principal.
So if I pronounced things wrong, you can correct me
because Eaton does It seventeen million times a show. Now
you're on the Hut City Council and you've decided you
want to run for Maya. Now, firstly, I've got a
couple of questions personally, is why would you give up
(03:34):
that huge salary of being a school principal and you
were making you were doing an extremely good job from
what I hear in the college.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Why would you give that up? Firstly to sit on
council and then now to run for me?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
So killed it everyone, And I'd like just to say
a big high to your listeners because I've got a
lot of family members and people who listen every day
to your show. So it's nice to be here and
nice to connect with them and you with these amazing
professionals in the room. But look for me, I think
my life's always been about service and about giving to
a community. And when you're a principal, not only looking
after staff and students, you're also connecting with Farno families
(04:11):
the community at large. And so I got to a
point and thought, you know what, there's some things going
on on a bigger level that I think we can
do better. And I think that's always been my driver
what can we do better for the people, And it's
putting the people first, making sure we're connecting that whole
context around social cohesion.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
And I feel that with my leadership, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
I'm ready to be there and lead leader community in
a different way and make it as positive and the
best it can possibly be.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So you're looking at that big round building down the
road as a next extension the behive on door.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
You know what, I've got some ideas for them that
might come out today, And a lot of it is
actually about stop being so divisive, stop being negative, stop
getting into that rhetoric, and actually how do we be
more supportive.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
And look after each other and actually start thinking strategically.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
It's systemic, that is.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
A little bit, but I think it takes people like us,
and it takes other leadership styles. Is they actually know
there are other ways of doing it. And you know,
just if I have a platform for a second to
think about things, I've always said there are some things
that should sit outside that three year cycle. So things
like health you're talking about, and you know now, Polly,
what that's all about it And I live that life
(05:17):
as a principle in education.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
We see trauma all the time.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
So things like health, things like education, things like water, infrastructure,
they should be strategic things we think about collectively together
and not based on a three year cycle of whoever
comes into government. Because we're not getting it right at
the minute. So we do need to do a lot
better and when it starts in the community.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
So that's what I want to do.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
And nonpartisan.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
It needs to be exactly exactly working together for the
betterment of the people, you know, on a bigger level.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Okay, right, let's start, all right, you've got us all
on notice, right, first question, Polly, coming to you.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
First.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
New Zealand's officially out of the recession following a zero
point seven g d P rise in December for the
December quarter. Do you feel personal No, no.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
As Trump is announcing America is going into a recession,
which I think they've been doing since twenty eighteen at least,
I think that to say that we're coming out of
recession as ridiculous. I don't know anyone in my group
of friends, the precariots, you know that we used to
be the middle class, but now we're sort of looking
at meat and going I think I'll be a vegetarian.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I can't afford this.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
I don't see anyone celebrating that the gross domestic product,
that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Ages. I got topic and i'mic student at high school.
Very good most of it, Carve, You've got top of
everything science. But I don't think we're coming out of
the recession.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I think that's it would be nice, But I don't
see anybody that I know suddenly going yay, look at us,
we're on the rise. I think it's going to take
a long time. I think it's going to take till
midnext year before we see any change.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Now, Karen, I didn't actually use your name in the introduction,
which was completely rude and seriously disrespectful. So it's Karen Morgan,
and so every one.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Will know.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Were you giving the instruction. You're amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I got told off. I'm used to getting tell and
I am a bit nervous. It's from trauma when I.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Was at school.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I'm sorry to hear that. I can help you.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
They still they still came people like me at school
when I was So if I'm feeling a little bit nervous,
it is the trauma. But anyway, do you actually feel
right now that things are getting better.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Look that, I mean you you walk around and meet
and talk to the people. We've got people who are
working a full time job right now and they are
going to food banks because they just can't do it.
They can't make it work. You know, let's just say,
price of butter, what does that actually look like. I've
got a niece who's studying shit, doesn't even buy butter.
And you know, there are so many examples we could
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pick up here to say, and I'm even the optimist,
and I am and I'll put that out there.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
There is a light, this will change. There is a light.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
There's got to be and we've got to have that,
you know, solution based sort of thinking. When when if
we approach anything, but right now, people are feeling it.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
You know it's hard, but it's super hard.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Let me just say, on butter, you look like I
look actually google the price of buttons around around the
area right too. And then I have to go will
it be worth going to the warehouse because the petrol
are so yeah? And then I have to try and
work out in my head is it going to be
cheaper to go to a new world just down the
road and buy it for nine dollars or go to
the warehouse and get it for sex.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
And it's you know, it's a toss up, it is, yeah,
and we're.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Making those decisions. Can I afford the petrol or the butter?
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Are we coming out of a recession? Well not yet.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Well it's interesting if you want to talk about butter.
They had the Indian because obviously there's a government party
of about a million people over from New Zealand over
in India. The moment they showed the price of butter
in India which was actually half the price or a
little bit more than half the price than the butter here.
So are we going to import our butter from Yeah, let's.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Not start on that.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
It's a bit like the job discussion and you know
going overseas to you know, getting school lunches from Australia.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Oh well, you know, well you did start.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, okay, so let's let's quickly get an idea. So
the figures are not going to make any difference right now,
we're in hard times. Do you think it's going to
be a quick result.
Speaker 7 (09:16):
It's definitely not going to be a quick resolve. It's
going to take time.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
And it's going to take a lot of effort from
everyone working together on this to see the changes.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
It will change, but it's going to take time.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You think it will change, I do.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
We have to believe it has to change. We have
to make it change.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
So what are we also doing locally that can help,
working as partners to make things change, To look after
those people and help build and empower.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Them more, we lift them wild await government.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah, and doing things differently, you know, thinking outside the
square and like you're doing Polly with your work, those
sorts of things to really lift communities and help them
in different ways. You know.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Them, they wouldn't it be nice to feed them?
Speaker 6 (09:52):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Right, time for a quick break, get our breasts back.
Polly Gillespie and Karen Morgan on Friday face off and
Karen is and you be so if you want to
know a bit of background on Karen, I will tell
you because everyone knows Polly.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
No relation to Gareth.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
She was a college principal. She's an educationalist. That's what
I call them. You're an educationalist. Would you say you're an.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Educationalist, I'd say I'm a leader in education, leader, educational.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Educationalist.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I don't know, but it's my word. I've used.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Everything's education, right, so everything we do is.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
School.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You're an ex school principal and now you're currently a
hut City councilor and you're standing for mayor at this
coming elections. Whose talk said, b It's Friday face off
with Karen Morgan and Polly Gillespie.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Do we call you Polly Gillispie or do we just
call you Polly? When you become super famous, you only
have one name.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
It's like me Madonna share you were just yeap. Most
people call me Polly, but Polychlisi. Do you want to
use my whole name Nick Mells? Well fine, you.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Please do not use my full daks. People won't know
who I am. Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Benefit numbers have gone up by twelve percent in a year,
more more than two hundred thousand people, despite the government
tough talk on reducing numbers. Remember they said the government
said when they came in they're going to reduce them
by fifty thousand over five or six years.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Karen, I'm going to start with you there. The entire population.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Now, I don't know whether you've been to live in lately,
but the entire population of living has moved into the
benefit in the last year.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Does this slightly shocking?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
Oh? Look, it's really sad actually what's happening? And you know,
you talk to some people, especially in this region, and
they go to work and they're not sure if they're
going to have a restructure or what does that look like?
Am I actually going to have a job tomorrow? And
that's kind of the feeling out there. And I think
part of that is, you know, we need to start
thinking strategically, how are we investing in our locals. How
are we valuing our talent and our capabilities and our
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businesses here to ensure that we're looking after them for
job creation. You know, I think about an example. I
touched on it before and I won't go into it
too much, but let's look at the lunch program that
gave local communities and people in the in those communities jobs.
It was fantastic. These kids were getting amazing meals. Now
that's all changed that now, you know, to think that
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we go off source to Australia. Not about Australia, don't
that's fine, but you know, we're going to Australia to
bring in food for our kids in.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
New Zealand and crep food coming instead.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
And so where we're when we say we're looking after
where is the investment in what's happening locally?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You know, I don't understand. Okay, actually sorry, because that's
a big thing for me. The lunch, the lunch program,
I don't get it. We in New Zealand, we make
good food, we have the facilities. Why on earth are
we getting crap food from Australia and it's not into
Australian as you.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
See, you know what the hell's going?
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Yeah, so where's the thinking? And that's for me, where's
the strategic thinking?
Speaker 6 (12:56):
And you know a lot of the barriers for our angatahi,
like our under twenty four getting into jobs now and
I know someone who there were four hundred people who
applied for a job. But one of the barriers is
driver's license. You need to have a driver's license and
without that license, our young ones just have these barriers,
consistent barriers. So what do we do. We've got to
change things and make these more it's not just accessible,
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you're not.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I have applied for jobs and there've been one hundred
and fifty two hundred. I amplicants for a sales tripping
job or a job that normally you might have got
ten people applying for for one hundred and fifty two
hundred people applying for each job.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So I mean, how do we change it?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Poly?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Come on, tell me what we do to get more
people working. I mean, everyone rings up when I do
it as a topic and says, are the people that
have you know, drugs, alcohol problems?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You know, they don't really want to work.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It's rubbish. There is that element, there will always be
that element.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
But it's not two hundred thousand, No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
There are so many people that I know, and I
went through looking for work too, and it's hard because
there are two hundred applicants applying for each job. I
guess with all this restructuring, which we used to call
being laid off, now the new HR term is we're restructuring. Basically,
you want to get rid of you because we can't
afford you. Why these businesses not able to afford to
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hire people or keep people on what's going on?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
So are they? It comes back to that, doesn't it
Why a business is.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Laying people off or restructuring, and therefore why are we
losing all these jobs?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
So we need to have a look at that. We
need to understand why that is happening.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Karen, Can I come back to you and ask you
from your educational days right year thirteen I call it
seventh form year thirteen?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, how many of those kids? And you'd know every
one of those kids and your year thirteen because you'd
had them a couple of years. And if you're as
half as good as principle as I think you would,
you would know every single one of them. How do
you feel when you look them in the eye and
thinking that this is going to be their last year
at school? And do you actually feel that they've got
a future?
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Oh, one hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
They have a future because they're smart, they're intelligent, they're capable.
And also I think you know it's maybe one of
our topics later, but you know what schools are doing
now to invest in their young ones is amazing.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
So this whole trade looking at you know what we're doing.
Schools are investing.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Sadly the resourcing hasn't been there from central government, but
schools are investing so much for their future, for their
young ones because they are our now. They are our future.
And so I know at Tider College we had programs
running that were very different.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
How many of them would have been like me, you
and Polly. Yeah left school. I left school and a
lot earlier than you guys did, but I left school
to go to a job. How many of those yere
thirteen kids are leaving your school knowing they were going
to go to university or had a job.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yep, we would actually track them, so we'd say probably
ninety five ninety ninety five percent were we would actively
make sure they had a pathway, a many full pathway
into either a job, further learning through for today a polyitech,
or going to university. But most of our kids were
actually going into that polytechnic space. Yeah, ninety to ninety
five percent, for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's amazing.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
There's some kids obviously who just but there are so
many different courses and.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Programs now, and so some need a little bit more
helpful development with different things to upskill, and then they
can go at like bridging courses kind of thing, and
then they.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Can go into different areas.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
So these things happening, but you have to invest and
know your kids and know you you know, know the people,
and then be able to help them, guide them into
the right direction and support them.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Here, how do we get to two hundred thousand.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Then here's a story for you.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
So my boys went to Scott's College, right, great school,
great school. But at the end of the year, at graduation,
every boy in year thirteen went up on stage and
said what they were planning to do. And you know,
let's say there were one hundred boys, and it was like, well,
I'm going to go vic and do law. I'm going
to Otago and doing medicine. I'm going to and then
one boy out of all these boys said, I'm gonna
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I'm going to be a trader.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
I'm going to be a carpenter. The whole audience laughed.
I didn't laugh. I thought, why people laughing?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Do you know that boy now owns a building company
is probably richer than all those kids that went to
university and are now going, Well, I've got a fine
arce degree and I've can't get a job, you know,
But that's that was the mentality of you're.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Not going to university.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
We are going to talk about that because we did
it on the show and it created a lot of talk.
So we will bring that up we have with us
in the studio, Karen Morgan and Poly Gillespie. And have
you thinking yourself, where have you heard the name Karen
Morgan before? Well, she's an ex tier college principal and
she's on the city council of Hut City or Lower
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Hut as old timers call it, and she is going,
she's put a name forward and she's going, she says,
to win the mayoralty in Hut City.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Can I say that? No, I can't.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
Well, I'm not going for second.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Can you remember when Hut City or Lower Heart very
briefly had that slogan right up my Hut valley?
Speaker 7 (17:50):
Yes, I don't remember, but yeah, yeah, yeah, there's come
up recently.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Actually, think about it. I remember it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, yeah, Holly, I remember it. Used to call it
absolutely positively. Well, they wouldn't be calling that right now,
would they.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Moving's pretty hilarious, right, No, right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Let's talk.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We started talking about the educational stuff and having you
here in the studio, Caren, we've got to push it
a little bit harder. An education expert is saying that
not enough young people are going into the trades and
apprenticeship system needs an overhaul. He wants to see schools
doing more and is suggesting they offer a thing like
a trades preparation qualification to create a new pipeline of it,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Instead of having university entrance trades entrance, you know what
I mean. So that it's just as say, what are
your thoughts?
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Oh, one hundred percent agree, this is really important. But
this has actually been happening for years in schools. People
and schools have been investing in this trades vocational space
running their own programs.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
So I talked before about not enough resource going into it.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
So what happens is as a school I have to
create that space and pay someone to run those programs,
you know, on on top of it already you know,
running a normal program and timetable.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
So it's that investment.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
And I think but the bigger argument and thing that
we need to talk about in the narrative is that
for too long now there's been a dumbing down of
vocational trades pathways.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Absolutely, you know, and it's and it's unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
In all of my educational practice, it's been about this
is just as viable, just as important, This is just
as successful as going to university. University is a great path,
but it's not.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
The only part.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Everyone right, and we're channeled into thinking that that you're
just not a success if you don't do this, and
that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
The thing that you you you both probably be the
same as me. The wealthiest people I know own plumbing businesses, electricians, builders,
they're trades.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
People that didn't go to university. And yet we when
sent you have to go to university.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
But also those programs, now you know the polytech that
fit today. They're highly skilled, highly technical programs. They are
really professional lines of work and learning that they have
to do in order to carry out those jobs.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
So it's such a viable option, and yet we need more,
but we are Can we do that?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
How can we get people to think like that? Because
I did that with my eldest son. I said, you've
got to go to university, got an economics degree, then
went back got a law degree, and he's working in
our family business. He doesn't use a law degree, he
doesn't use an economics Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
I made all my children go to university. My daughter
should never have done that. She should have gone to
design school or something.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
You know, she's artistic.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
She shouldn't have gone Queen Margaret, she should have gone
to Wellington High. But you know it was there was
something about the generation where we had children in the
nineties and early two thousands, where we just wanted them,
you know, like we drove them to school, we pecked
them up, We made them go to all kinds of
ballet and chess and karate and swimming, you know like,
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and we just wanted them to excel.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
And we thought that going to university was the path forward.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Was it our own ego?
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I think it's I think it came from where we
came from, where.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
We had to get an education. We had in education.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
But also there was no pressure when I left school
to go to university. I did overseas, but it was
like I could go and walk out and get a job.
I could just go and get a job. Yeah, you know,
I just go in somewhere and get a job.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Can I just say one thing on that, especially for
the listeners, because if I could ask, you know, our
parents in fun No to do one thing, it would
be listen to your kids, you know, listen to what
they love, what they're passionate about, because who cares what
they do? You just want a happy, successful child, a happy, contributing,
active participant in your community. And that's what's important. That's gold,
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that's the heart. It doesn't matter how much money you make.
I mean, if that's your drive, yeah, go into plumbing,
because I don't know what you guys have had anything
fixed or plumbing or anything you know at costs. So
if it's money's your driver. But look, it's about what's
important to that individual. And everyone's different and you can't
just put them in the same box or say, look,
this is what's happening. So so listen to your kids,
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listen to what's driving them, and then make it happen
and give them opportunities. And I think that's what the
trades do. That's what vocational. I called them meaningful pathways
because they've got to have that meaning of where are
they going and actively set that up.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Okay, yeah, I've got this one. I want to get
out really quickly before we go to an ad brace.
So if you could keep it really quickly good. The
Act party this week.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I wasn't meaning that in a disrespectful way.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
A party this week, take On, has said that they're
going to take on local body election, saying it's time
for a shakeup, poly do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It's time for a shakeup. I mean, I don't like
party politics.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
I'll tell you what this is how I feel about it.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Because, of course, as David Simul said this week, if
Jesus was voting, he would have voted for ACT, which
I think is the most hilarious thing I've heard for it.
Sometimes i'd like to know if what people's politics are,
because I wouldn't vote for a candidate who was an
ex candidate. So I'd like to know if you want
to tell me who you align with. I want to
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know your social sensibilities. I want to know how you
stand on things that are important to me, like social justice,
like reducing poverty, all of those things.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
So if I know what party you belong to, I
know a little bit more about you.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Wow, I'm Karen. What are your sorts?
Speaker 6 (23:07):
Yeah, so I have a pretty firm stance on this,
and I actually believe you should be particularly running for
council and mayor particularly running as independent. You're here to
listen to your constituents. You're here to listen to the people.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Know what if you're an ACT If if you're an ACT,
dread I think I dread the more that you get
to know, the more that you connect.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
And that's what I'm about, is connecting and being transparent
and being you know, an inclusive leader.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
I think you will know very quick. I know I
have got what I'm.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
About and what I do, Skaren, I haven't worked out
and I normally can work it out pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I haven't worked out whether you left or right wing.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
No, okay, let me clarify this because you said act little,
short little, Let's just talk about that for a minute.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
You serious?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
And what concerns me about things and schools and politics
getting into local body and when we've got a space
for that is what concerns me is with things like
ACT around the.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Ideology that's very divisive.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
When it starts dividing a nation, then that's not okay
and the people do not like no, and it's not acceptable.
So for me, I have a very different Kopappa, a
very different ethos, different ethos, and that is about actually
bringing people together, building that social cohesion, and that's what
we need more of.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Polly was pretty clear on her view on the politics
and local council. What are yours.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Shouldn't be there, shouldn't be there, but I can be transparent,
but I don't think you should be funded by a
party to run a city because your influenced.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
But I'm not going to vote for somebody if they
are really right wing, if they if they support Brian Camacky,
if we're act, I'm not going to vote for them.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I see what you're saying, and I googled you, and
I'm clearly you're not. Clearly she's not right wing.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Because not right your homework.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, I'm going to clarify this.
I want to clarify this. People always say I'm right wing.
Do you think I'm right wing?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I think you're central, slightly right.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh you see, I'm not. I'm central. I have no
political sway either way. I want people.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I want every single person to have the same rights
in life, every single person.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
So you're totally central, totally central.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And I want to see people become rich, and I
want to see poor people try to become rich, and
I want to help those poor people become ritchel or
get them.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Where they need to go.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
You're a help them up.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, So I don't have any You don't have to
label me to you.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
You do not have to l I can't say any
of that.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You don't have to label me.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I'm just saying but that's that's what's wrong with politics.
You have to label people. That's why I shouldn't have
asked you. But Ethan was asking.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
He the things I want to know.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
I want to know, Yeah, and I think you should know.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
But I think that's also about doing a little bit
of homework as well, because you should be making the
right vote for who you want.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
To be, not part of Yeah, I agree with Karen.
Got to take a short break. I've got to take
a short break. Sorry.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Joining us for Friday faced off as Karen Morgan and
Polly Gillespie. I did the story during the week which
kind of really agitated me. Well in the City Council
of pocketing twenty four thousand dollars a week for fines
from a new fixed bus camera in Manu Street between
June and December.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The AA says it's apparrent apparent.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It's a great word partner, pugnant, and is punishing hard
working people from getting from A to b's. Polly, what
did your thought when you first saw the story.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I think the signage is the problem.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
It's a bit like if look, if there were big
signs going, if you go down this lane, you're about
to get fined, you know, like flashing like the road
to work signs.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Right, But it's a bit sneaky.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
So unless you had read up about it and knew
it was happening, you know a lot of people don't know.
And if it's not, it's a lack of signage. It's
the same coming down is it Adelaide roads?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
There's no signage?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Have you ever been ping with Karen? What are your thoughts?
You wouldn't have that lower heart, would you look?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I guess I've got to be very careful now because
my whole COPAPA is about working collexively with Wellington read
in the council, and I think that's really important. But
one thing I think you can always look at as communication.
It's what you're saying. And I think when we make
decisions at whatever level and we're rolling something out, it's
so important we're connecting and actually communicating that really clearly
because that's where people and excellent you know, things go wrong.
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So we can all improve in our commutations.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Can I just quickly ask you because I just want
to quickly ask you with you think that we should
combine the upper heart and wanting to with one council.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Oh, I think it's definitely something we could look at
and should look at.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
But what do you think do you think it actually?
Speaker 7 (27:38):
I think it could totally work.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Yeah, I think I think we can get too in
our silos and too protective of that, and the more
we're working.
Speaker 7 (27:44):
Collaboratively to get the better. Yeah, at least look at
there's lots of things at water.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
We won't get into that, but how do we do
things better, you know, to save money for our rate payers,
to actually make things make sense?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Would you if you were the person making the decision,
would you have voted for change Welling to water after.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
What we heard change in Wellington water?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Almost?
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Thanks nice segue here, Yeah, we're not getting political next.
I thought that's a.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Nice I'm sure there's thirty four thousand people out there
listening to the show thinking I wonder whether.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Here's some water and we have to do water. Water
is a tongue, it's.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
A you know an I'll ask you another question.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
There's been discussion that the Labor MP wants to put
the law change to prevent employees from punishing staff who
want to tell their colleagues how much they earn.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, I mean you both would have seen it. It's
really funny.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Found well someone that used to end billions of dollars,
Polly and everyone used to walk past your studio say
well if I got ten percent of what her and great.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
The thing is, I was brought up that you don't
ask a woman her age, and you don't talk about
how much money?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But should it be should it be okay for you
to absolutely?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:55):
And I think it's about transparency.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
And you know what's not okay is still today twenty
twenty five, women are not getting paid the same as men.
Look at our iniquities with Marty pacifica, is that okay?
And absolutely not okay? And why because it's all head
and lots of head and all we won't talk about.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Were you on the same salary as the male principle?
Speaker 7 (29:13):
For you, I couldn't tell you. How would I know that?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
You know?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
But we're on a scale generally, so so teachers are general,
but there's different perks.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Don't worry. So I know people who get cars and
all sorts of things.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I'm not saying that because principle's do a damn hard
you know, So I'm not going to comp AVT to anyone.
But it isn't a level playing field out there, so
that's n't predictable.
Speaker 7 (29:33):
So let's put it on the table, right, be transparent.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And if you don't want it doesn't matter if if
somebody says you how much you earn you and you
can say but I don't piny.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I could guarantee.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And I've known you for a long time and I've
worked in the studio next to you when on a
part time basis for a long time. I know that
if anyone and even leaked out what you were earning
in the big times and the crazy days, it would.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Have been a war.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
There would have been a war, zid me, you would
have but I think smoke would have come out your ears.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
No, No, I know that I was making.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I think Mike Hosking was making more than me, and
then it was me, that's what I know, Yes, Mic
Hosking and then me. Yeah, and then now they must
saved a lot of money getting.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Rid of me, right, yeah, give it to me, look
at it fifty into.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
But is money the driver?
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Right, It's not bad I've been I've had money and
I've not had money have money, but even to.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Have money, you know, like bands, so people knew where
you were kind of in that for a spouse start around.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
Transparency would be a good step potentially.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
I think people should be able to talk about it absolutely.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
The Friday hot.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Okay, my favorite time of the week is to ask
my guests what the hots and nots?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Come on, Polly, tell me what your hots are? First?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Okay, hot would be interest rates coming down, because I
think people who've got mortgages that's going to mean a
lot to them.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
That's going to mean being able to buy butter.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
So I think interest rates coming down and being able
to buy butter, specifically butter, it would be. My hot
might not be school lunches, the repugnant, horrific, horrible nightmare
that is the school lunch scandal. We were getting our
sculnches from Australia and everything's screwed up and they're too
hot and they're not kosher and.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
It's just it's just ludicrous. So that's that's my bignot.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Karen, what's your hot?
Speaker 7 (31:17):
I guess my hot has to be that I'm running
for me here.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
And I've just honestly been so overwhelmed by amazing response
in the last week and a half and you're so nice.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
But I actually wanted to say.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
A big bocaded both of you because you know, after COVID,
we've had so much going on for people, and when
you are in your jobs such as you are the
voices of reason, you're that that comfort, You're that reassurance,
you're that support. You're actually changing lives via the radio
and what you do and your messages. So I just
want to see say, Namahika Kordua, thank you so much
for what you give to the community and the service
(31:49):
that you're providing, because honestly, people look to you, they
listen to you every day because they you're part of
their lives and you're like their friend and their guidance.
So you're helping us keep our walker steady here in Alta,
and I say, big hits up.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
It's very very impressive.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And you're not hot?
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Am I not hot? The health system.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
It really concerns me when I talk to people about
what's going on, and you know, so locally to change
it not hot to around you know, I'm trying really
hard in the Hut. Now I'm working with health professionals
in the Hut city to actually take take health to
the people in the hubs and actually get it out
there so people feel comfy, they can go, they can access.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
Health in a more readily way.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
And even if it was something like doing diabetes testing,
which is one of the biggest things right now that's
impacting people, we get it to you know, we can
change lives by getting out there and taking health to them.
So we've got to change things. We can't wait for
central government. So what do we do as active partners?
And that's the sort of leadership I want to provide
and I want to make some of those things happen.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
So that's me.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Thank you both, Thank you so much. Great to see
you both. Great to meet you.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Karen, all the very very best. We'll stay in touch.
We'll definitely ask you for your opinion. Potter, You've got
some y.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I just want to say thank you for leaving me
Borrow sapreiscous the other day to do film that doco
thing I was doing.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Oh it's a fantastic venue.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
And if I ever get married, which is highly unlikely,
going to have my reception there best venue in Wellington.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Oh there you go, that's a plugge nothing. I'll get
told off now again. I've got ty stolen off for that.
Why did you let it talk about your your own
business on.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Radio? Thank you both so much. It's seven minutes to twelve.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I'll come back and wrap the show when I escort
my guests out of the studio.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Kick from that, debating the good, the bad, the ugly
and everything in between. Friday face Off with Quinnovic, Wellington's
property management experts. Call oh eight hundred Quinnovic for more
from Wellington Mornings with Nick Mills. Listen live to news
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