December 18, 2024 • 30 mins
Gary and Shannon dive into the troubling family life of the Wisconsin shooter. Drone hysteria and some conspiracy theories surrounding them. Gaetz Report is coming out! Luigi Mangioni charged with 1st degree murder, why that might be tough to prove.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app In class, like right before holiday,
like a couple of days before you're going to go
on holiday, vacation or whatever, you just have no focus.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You get so excited excited.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I was getting my fake eyelashes done yesterday, and the
girls are fake.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Bless your heart, they're good. I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Really, yes, oh yeah, I gotta come in there.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But anyway, she's like scheduling the next appointment. She says, oh,
you want to come in before New Year's and I
said no. She's like, you don't have any events. I
was like, no, I don't. I have no events. I'm
a of the no events age. I have no events
for New Year's.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You would have.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
She meant like, you're not going to a party.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Right, Oh, Like, don't you want your fake eyelashes done
freshly for the party? I got that and I was like, nope,
I will be at home in my underwear and my slippers.
That's okay, the picture pajamas right, better fully clothed.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yep, it's gonna let you let that sink in for
a moment, and then you can't figure out what you keep.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Calling nine to one one with people in the backyard.
I don't know why. Sometimes I forget that I am
a not a dude. Not a dude. Hey, we got mail.
Should we open it?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Uh, let's do it later this hour? Oh yeah, I know. Oh,
so you're just going to open it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Then someone sent us a Christmas card. Tricia did. Oh
that's lovely, Dear Gary and Channon. Always a good time
each day from nine to one, but even a better
time at a gas remote love Tricia, cheers to a
good new year.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So you in twenty twenty five. We don't get enough
Christmas cards from me any This is the only one.
It's the forever gotten. I mean we still have a
couple of days if people want to send them in.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I love Christmas cards. Here she is on the Golden
gate Bridge.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You've been done. We have done Christmas cards in a while.
And I apologize.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I did them, and I'm sorry I didn't get you
one because I ran out.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Oh and I'm glad to know that I'm not in
the first tier. You're not because I see you every day.
You know what I look like you understand. Yes, you know,
my eyelashes are fakes. It's not like you're going to go, oh,
look at this fun picture. We were in Utah. I
know you were in Utah. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That was the picture? How did you know that?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Because that's exactly the reason why you didn't exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We have a lot of information. Listen to. Matt Gates
story has come out.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
They did a secret vote to release the Matt Gates
ethics report, despite the fact that he's not in it.
It's gonna be funny. Yeah, he came out with a tweet.
We'll talk about that coming up. I know you're you
are hiking. Your husband loves to hike, and Mount Baldy
is off limits and people are losing their ever.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Hyping because of the ice and the cold and the sun.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
We'll tell you coming up next hour. Justin Warsham is
going to join us. We're going to do what you're watching. Wednesday.
All of this is coming up. We start where we
unfortunately have had a big week, and that is in Madison, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So I have a question about this.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I was reading this morning about how both the parents divorce.
Parents have been married repeatedly remarried multiple times.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Right, how does that happen? It's not a clean This
is not a clean home life. We'll tell you that.
This fifteen year old shooter.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's so sad because they said that with the custody arrangement,
that she was going back and forth two or three
days a piece with each home.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Because there's a thing that happens. My understanding and having
seen it relatively close, there's an incredible amount of selfishness
narcissism that comes into play when you're talking about custody
of children.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That you're the better parent, and.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You fight for that despite the fact you're not thinking
about what's better for the child. You're very rarely thinking
about what's the way that I can make sure that,
despite my disagreements with her or him, my child or
my children are the ones that are going to be
able to live through this.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Isn't that the best version of it?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Though I'm the better parent, I should have the kids
as opposed to someone who doesn't want the kids.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, I would rather yes, But you have to be
able to learn to at some point give up that
fight in the context of doing something better for the child.
Melissa is the mom. She had been previously married and divorced.
She had another daughter with a different guy to whom
she was never married. So this half sister of the
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shooter is now twenty years old. Melissa and Jeff mother
and father, divorced for the first time in twenty fourteen,
and at that point they agreed to legal custody of
their shared daughter. But they did, but they did specify
that she was going to live mostly with mom. That
I mean, in general, you can make an assumption that
(05:02):
it's better for a girl to grow up with mom
at times, not always, but at times.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
There was a twenty twenty two document with regard to
custody that reflected that they were on cordial terms. It's
that the parents report a generally positive co parenting relationship
and will continue to communicate with one another by text
messages and phone conversations.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, come, by the way, that's after they had remarried.
They divorced in twenty seventeen. They got married again in
twenty twenty and agreed to share custody again, and then
filed for divorce again in twenty twenty one. There's a
point where other family members if this guy's my brother,
if she's my sister, say I go, hey, keep the relationship,
(05:47):
but maybe not.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Let's see people wake marriage because people do not take
advice to You cannot give advice about people's relationships because
it'll bite your right in the behind.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And that'll alone that the you know, the on again,
off again marriage is not enough to no make decisions
about what kind of stuff this girl was going through.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But she was clearly going through something.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But isn't it interesting to dig into the intricacies of
other people's lives.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It frustrates me, I know because part of it is
because there's there's times I hate the fact that we
have to know this. And the reason we know it
is because their daughter committed this atrocious act of violence
and suicide. Don't forget they lost a fifteen year old
daughter and all of that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
But it reminds you what people are going through. It
makes you feel grateful, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I I like my boring life.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's not boring.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It is a boring, boring life.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It is not boring, well I mean not, I mean
compared to this. Yesterday when you got home, talked to
my wife.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
We sat in the backyard for a few minutes, played
with the dog, I did some workout, did a workout,
helped my wife with cookies. This is a very full life.
Is that what you call that? My son came over.
We hung out for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Look at this, Look at all the things you have
going on. That's not boring.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And then we watched TV.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I watched a movie yesterday. Carry on, Yeah, the Netflix one.
Did you see it?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You shot on Friday? Isn't it great? It was really fun.
I loved it. You have to suspend this belief.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And if you've been to LAX, you know, wait a minute,
that that's not how it works at LAX.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Jason Bateman, though, what a fun person to hang out with,
Like I loved him as a bad guy, Like he's
somebody you would be friends with.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
He would never be friends with me.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean you, as in all of us. He's like
the guy you'd be. He seems like a relatively no
right like Paul Reser. Also, he would never hang out
with us.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
But selling us short. We are fun, We are not boring.
Latest on the drones when we come back.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The conspiracy theories? My god, people, can't you fight over custody?
Do something else better with your time?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I don't know why this hit me. This is such
a perfect little meme that I found today. It's a
little video. I'm assuming it's on TikTok something like that.
It said, what happened to kids with casts? Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Broken broken rigs don't play anymore. They don't play anymore.
They don't play. There are just no casts anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's a whole video of kids doing like relatively crazy
things like today.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
We would think, oh, but careful, don't don't do the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But somebody said, when's the last time, or no, when
the last time you saw a kid with a cast?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well, I will say this, and I'm not an orthopedic surgeon,
but I do believe that the casting has evolved to
where you don't need to do the cast that we had.
You can put like a brace or tape or they're
they're not as cumbersome as they were when we were kids.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I don't think I could be wrong about that. Let
me know if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
This video goes on to say nowadays all injuries are psychological.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh my god, it's depressing.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You can't you can't have somebody sign your your chronic anxiety.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Wow, there is a weird flex.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I remember breaking my wrist because I was playing basketball
with the boys and and and I went up for
a jumper and just completely stuffed that that shot and
my wrist bent back.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Somebody blocked it. You made Yeah, Oh, I broke the
growth plate on my wrist.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Oh is that what happened?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, that's why you're as tall as you are.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Stop doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Did that freak out a little bit? No, But it's
this weird attention thing that comes from having what happened.
Oh my god, what is this attention that feels good?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
That's crazy?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But yeah, you don't get that with your chronic anxiety
because everybody has.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It and it's all down here. At least the cast
was a visible thing, right or the eyepatch, you know,
I had an eye patch.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You do not plant this seed because now there's going
to be some sort of a weird patch you wear
if you have anxiety.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Oh no, well, taking your your peaka poo to your
flight to Vegas is probably poo whatever dumb dog you have.
So somebody that I know has a peekapoo has ordered
therapy dog to be determined. We don't know if that's
true or not. We don't know if that's true. It's
(10:46):
a rumor. Okay, well i'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
On Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Thousand, recorded five thousand reported drone siding in recent weeks.
Obviously everybody's freaked out if you get into New York
and New Jersey, and like we've seen other plays around
the country, there have been these drone siding.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I've decided to get a lot of entertainment from this story.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
In terms of sussing out all of the conspiracy theories,
there's one guy, a US China relations expert, who says
that Americans should plan for the worst.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, because they've found more radiation.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, that there's been unexpected radiation spikes in the area.
And then there's the other conspiracy theory from Charlie Kirk
that this is all about Project Blue Beam.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Project blue Beam.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Was first introduced in the nineties, claims global elites will
destabilize the society by staging and unleashing massive supernatural events.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Hey, if the global elites, if the.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Democrats couldn't get it together to run someone better than
Kamala Harris, they're certainly not going to get it together
to destabilize.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The community and the country with drones.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Right, that takes a lot of brain power and a
lot of coordination.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's not things that they are stocked up on.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
One of the concern now is when you look at
it in a general sense, the concern is that whoever
is in control of these, if it's someone who has
nefarious plans for the United States, they've identified a problem,
which is obviously drones can't fly over American military installations
or very sensitive sites will shoot them down or take
them down however we do it. But outside of those areas,
(12:26):
you know, the city of Burbank, for example, you could
fly a drone around here, and we don't have the
laws or the capability to take that thing out of
the sky in the event that it's not identified correctly
or it poses a threat to somebody, et cetera. And
that that is kind of the weak spot when it
comes to our drone policies. So the Pentagon has things right.
(12:56):
I mean, we've seen drone attacks on foreign military bit
I mean sorry, our military bases in foreign countries, and
we've seen our defenses against them, whether it's a machine
gun that shoots a bazillion bullets a second, just kind
of filling the air with lead to take these things down,
(13:17):
or electronic ways to jam their signals, or whatever it
is that we do to do it. I don't know
what it is, but I'm thankful that we have it.
Can we now employ those things here on a larger scale?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Trump has talked about shooting them down, And I ask
you this, if he was president right now, would he
order the New Jersey police to shoot these things down?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Or he couldn't order them, he would order that whatever,
you know what.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean, absolutely, And what's the worst case scenario in
that event? Well, if they are shot out of the
sky and they fall on people and kill people.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, if they are as big as SUVs like some
people have described them, they could do a lot of damage.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But and then the liability that comes along with that.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
But this is the thing, and again I don't know
why we're now almost four weeks into this story about
it's a weird drone sighting over the state of New
Jersey and relatively sensitive sights that no one has peeled
off a shot. Are they hard to hit?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't know. Are they far enough away?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Do they move erratically that you don't have somebody with
a good long range shooting record that could take one
of these things. Now, I don't know, but that people
haven't heard, like neighbor Bob got fed up with their
knees out there empty in his clip into the night
sky trying to hit this thing.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm amazing. And how real is the story?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Does it just have all of the oxygen in the
room right now because people are talking about it? Is
it really a thing that there's so many drones flying
around New Jersey?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Everybody from that area has stories. Yeah, I mean so,
I don't know if but that's again, I don't know
if it's a real thing or if this is now
we've reached that point where there's enough hysteria that it
is kind of perpetuating this thing without a whole lot
of facts.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I'm kind of leaning towards that being the case.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
All right, coming up next, the Matt Gates Report is
actually going to come out.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Holy hell, why the reversal? Or here's the thing they
voted a while ago. This wasn't a this morning thing.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
They voted a while ago to release this report and
we're just finding out about it now.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Guy in Virginia went out hunting and one of the
other hunters shot a bear that had been chased up
a tree. Bear falls out of the tree, falls onto
a guy named Lester fifty eight years old did killed
by the way to the bear.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So the funny version of that is that I not
that that's not funny, because it kind of is. But
I read the headline and I thought it said Viagra hunter,
not Virginia hunter.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
What do you think that says about you?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
And I'm inundated with those stupid commercials all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
It's an agent stage thing.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I'm fine, hey, it's your business off limits.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
There. The Dow Jones Industrial Libe, we are not ever advertising.
We have we have two rules. Yep, no boner pills,
right and what was the other one?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It like veros veins.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Uh. The Dow Jones Industrial average is in positive territory today.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's up about two hundred points.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
But man, they're just simply trying to avoid the ten
day mark of ten days of losses.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Now, this has been the worst.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
We mentioned yesterday nine days of negative on the Dow
Jones Industrial average was the first time since the seventies
that that had happened. That being said, we are less
than four percent off of the all time high still.
So the thing is things are just fine still. Red
flag warning up your fire out in your group of alley.
The Soto Fire said about thirty acres twenty percent containment.
(17:06):
They got a hand on that pretty quickly before things
got out of hand.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
The House Ethics Committee secretly voted earlier this month to
actually release that report into Matt Gates. The report will
be made public or is expected to be made public
after the House's final day of votes this year, which
I think is tomorrow. Is tomorrow, well, that's what I read.
(17:31):
At least, are they hoping that they can just release
it and then it dies in the holidays, because it's
not going to die.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I don't know if that's what they.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Redacted, Is it truncated, is it the full report?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
What do we know? Question?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
If, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
If Congress, well, I guess they could do redactions, but
I don't know who would be responsible for that. The
Ethics Committee report looked into several allegations against Matt Gates,
including whether or not he engaged in sexual misconduct, used
illicit drugs, shared inappropriate images or videos on the house floor,
misused state ID records, converted campaign funds to personal use,
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and or accepted a bribe in proper gratuity or impermissible gifts.
That was the announcement last summer when they were looking
into all of this. Now, he didn't immediately respond to
her request for comment by CNN, but of course he
went to social media, and he said.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
He engaged in embarrassing but not criminal past behavior.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, embarrassing sounds juicy, he says.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
In my single days, I often sent funds to women
I dated, even some I never dated.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But who asked we know somebody like that? Oh do
you remember that? Yeah, so I didn't know that was
a thing.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I didn't either.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And it is a thing where you use the cash
app or what have you to send money to women
that you hope to.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Have sex with or are.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Having right what what is like I wouldn't accept to
drink from a guy when I was single, Like, ah,
that's all just so gross, mad.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
How prevalent is that is?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Is that? Does that continue to be a thing you're
looking at that? Do you expect something from the woman
that you expect one hundred.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Despite what he may say, that's exactly why he would do.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Is this because guys aren't taking women to dinner anymore?
So you just send them money and they they buy
their their door dash and then you just have FaceTime sex.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Like what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
He says, I dated several of these women for years.
I never had sexual contact with someone under eighteen. Any
claim that I have would be destroyed in court, which
is why no such claim was ever made in court.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
My thirties this is.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Where I just this is what blows me away. My
thirties were an era of working very hard and playing
hard too. It's embarrassing, though not criminal, that I probably partied, womanized, dranked,
drank and smoked more than I should have earlier in life.
I live a different life now, but at least I
(20:16):
didn't vote for crs that f over the country reference
to the continuing resolution that the House just passed so
that they don't have a government shutdown this weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
He said, f the country. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Because some of the people listen again, the algorithms are crazy.
But some of the people who respond to this on
social media say.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, this is why we love Matt Gates.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Matt Gates, just so you know, is a completely politically
impotent figure right now. He's not doing anything. He resigned
from Congress even though he knew his nomination for Attorney
General was going to be an uphill climb. He did
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not have a backup plan, and he is now waiting
for whatever Trump has planned for him. And this is
a weird place for him to be. Him shouting into
the ether like this, Well, I never did this, and
I'm just I'm guilty of being a good time guy.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I'm guilty of partying too hard. Live hard, play, hard, work,
hard play hard. James Comer, Congressman, what says date rape
like work, hard play hard.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
James James Comer, the congressman is the head of the
I think he's the head of the House Intelligence Committee.
Was asked about this and said, Matt Gates teamed up
with Democrats to oust Kevin McCarthy back in the day.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
How did that sit with Republicans?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
There were a lot of people Republicans that didn't approve
of the way that Gates worked with the two hundred
and eleven Democrats to have the motion to Ak succeed
and get rid of McCarthy, and that led to three
and a half weeks of pretty tough living conditions here
in the Capitol trying to find a replacement. So I'm
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not surprised. I think it's unfortunate. But at the end
of the day, I think that the American people probably
want to see this ethics report.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And you know, Marjorie whatever her name is, said it
best about all right, you want to unearth what Matt
Gates did, let's all dance in the sunlight or whatever
the hell she said. Do you know how many people
in Congress are guilty of the same stuff Matt Gates is,
but maybe a different version. Maybe not the cash app version,
but like the you know whatever came before. Listen, drugs,
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the party of the womanizing, part of the lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Up next.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I mean Mitch McConnell alone. Look at that guy, you
know he's getting after it.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'd be more interested in Lindsey Graham's back. Oh yeah,
that's hot.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Life in South Carolina gets steamy at time. Get swampy
down in them. Oh no, I'm in in location wise,
it gets swampy.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Not that all right?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Coming up next, legal experts say, it is going to
be hard to convict Luigi Mangioni a first degree murder.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Can you believe that? Yes you can.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I don't remember how
to do it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You put your arm out like this and this, this
and then this. That's all I remember, okay, and then
there's a cross shaky. Can't do that, can't do that,
can't do that really, and then you jump and turn
a quarter like ninety degrees.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Forty five degrees ninety ninety right, forty five would be silly,
that would just be like.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
There'd be a lot of turns. Yeah, NASA's two struck
stuck astronauts are going to be stuck even longer. Which
Williams and Sunny Williams planned on being away just a
week when they blasted off June fifth. Now they're talking
about eight months instead of eight days. They will not
be back until the end of March or maybe even
April because of a delay in launching their replacements. According
(24:06):
to NASA.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Luigi Mangioni was accused of first degree murder in the
fatal shooting of that United Healthcare CEO in New York.
Premeditation is not enough to get you to a first
degree murder charge. You have to have an aggregate aggravating factor.
So they have charged him with the furtherance of terrorism.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, the weird Under New York law, murder in the
first degree only applies to when the victim is a judge,
a police officer, first responder, or when the killing involves
a murder for hire or an intent to commit terrorism.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Or torture, which I would have gone with because when
you get into the penal code here, torture says the
defendant acted in an especially cruel and wanton manner pursuant
to a course of conduct intended to inflict and inflicting
torture upon the victim prior to the victim's death. I
could see that argument of he shot him a couple times,
(25:04):
the gun shot, the initial shots were not fatal, he
came over and finished him off. That could be torture
killing somebody by multiple gunshot wounds.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I could get there as a juror. As opposed to
terrorist terrorism.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Well, one of the things that they've discussed is this
is similar to what the DA did when it came
to Daniel Penny's case. Alvin Bragg, in the Daniel Penny case,
was charged with both second degree manslaughter and criminally negligent
(25:41):
homicide in the death of Jordan Neely. We talked about
that case earlier and one of the reasons they said
that they double charged, well, that's not even the right term.
The reason that they charged one count at a lesser
count is it may be this strategy where you set
up the conditions for a plea to the lesser charge,
where he's got the ability to, you know, eventually get
(26:01):
some get out of prison at some point, and if
there isn't a plea, it then sets up the condition
as well for the jury compromise on the lesser charge.
That's what Alvin Bragg thought he was going to do
with Daniel Penny. If he wasn't able to get second
degree manslaughter which they were deadlocked on, that he would
get criminally negligent homicide which they did not. Was thrown
(26:22):
out eventually. Is that was the case it was thrown
out or how that specifically ended. But yeah, at the
same time, this is such a high profile case, why
don't you just get the charge that you know you're
going to get why wouldn't you charge him with second
degree murder if that's what fits this crime specifically.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's just wild because it is definitely a premeditated murder,
which is above the threshold for second degree murder, but
definitely not terrorism. And then you, you know, you can
be seen as throwing the book at him. And what
does that do for the public backlash?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
That is the that's the weirdest aspect I think of
this case, is that public backlash, the public support that
has come out for this guy and specifically for his
act of murder.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Would you say forty one percent of respondence to that
survey yesterday said that they get it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
People under the age of twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, they either understand or it was something like
supported or fully supported something crazy like that for percent.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That crazy woman that we've talked about before. I heard
John talking about it yesterday. What's her name? She's just
incendiary online with her ridiculous Oh, Taylor Lawrence. Yes, And
she was like I felt something to the effect of,
like my heart felt warm when I when I heard
about this killing.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, she's an awful person.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Why people keep.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Running You're giving her a garbage human, garbage human.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yes, possibly say you have a boring life.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
You get to see and work closely with Shannon every
day on every day, but five days a week.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That is so exciting. Can you tell that that I
was changing my voice a little bit? Yeah, just a
little higher regis sounds good? Right?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yeah. Hey, you know my son just snapped his wrists,
cracked it or broke it. He's in the cast. He's
bombed now, he can't play a baseball.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Broke it.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
He was on a bike. Fell and you know, kids
natural instinct stick stick their handout. But yeah, he's in
a cast. He was in a cast. They take it
up at the end of this month, so he'll be
in it for about a month and a half. Yeah,
lucky him.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You know what good job being a parent? You know that?
To me? Your kids in a cast, that's a good job.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Play outside, unless it was an e bike then no,
I say, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
This is Rick.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Hey, Rick, I learned that Shannon needs more conspiracy. This
little deal with thenes, this total misdirection. All you got
to do is figure out what we're not supposed to
be looking at.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Ah, I like that, what are we being distracted from
with the drones?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What's going on on the ground in New Jersey as
opposed to the sky?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Mm hmm, no not I don't know, not a lot
of much of anything.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
See, this is why you're boring. You've got a de boring.
I know your life is boring. It's not. Nothing's boring.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
You miss any part of our show, you can always
go back and listen to the podcast KFI dot com
slash Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Remember when you were on the iheard fix your fireplace?
That was exciting times.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
That was pretty exciting, right I guess hell yeah, uh
you got to see it.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I'm really happy with it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I mean, you're not living the life of a days
in in Glendale.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Hey, there's plenty of time left in this year.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Or was it a Super eight?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That was the days Then.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
When we return, you like to hike Mount Baldy, You're
gonna have to put pause, hit hit pause, put pause,
hit pause on that.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
For a whole year.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, it's gonna be a while.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app In class, like right before holiday,
like a couple of days before you're going to go
on holiday, vacation or whatever, you just have no focus.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You get so excited excited.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I was getting my fake eyelashes done yesterday, and the
girls are fake.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Bless your heart, they're good. I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Really, yes, oh yeah, I gotta come in there.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But anyway, she's like scheduling the next appointment. She says, oh,
you want to come in before New Year's and I
said no. She's like, you don't have any events. I
was like, no, I don't. I have no events. I'm
a of the no events age. I have no events
for New Year's.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You would have.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
She meant like, you're not going to a party.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Right, Oh, Like, don't you want your fake eyelashes done
freshly for the party? I got that and I was like, nope,
I will be at home in my underwear and my slippers.
That's okay, the picture pajamas right, better fully clothed.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yep, it's gonna let you let that sink in for
a moment, and then you can't figure out what you keep.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Calling nine to one one with people in the backyard.
I don't know why. Sometimes I forget that I am
a not a dude. Not a dude. Hey, we got mail.
Should we open it?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Uh, let's do it later this hour? Oh yeah, I know. Oh,
so you're just going to open it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Then someone sent us a Christmas card. Tricia did. Oh
that's lovely, Dear Gary and Channon. Always a good time
each day from nine to one, but even a better
time at a gas remote love Tricia, cheers to a
good new year.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So you in twenty twenty five. We don't get enough
Christmas cards from me any This is the only one.
It's the forever gotten. I mean we still have a
couple of days if people want to send them in.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I love Christmas cards. Here she is on the Golden
gate Bridge.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You've been done. We have done Christmas cards in a while.
And I apologize.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I did them, and I'm sorry I didn't get you
one because I ran out.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Oh and I'm glad to know that I'm not in
the first tier. You're not because I see you every day.
You know what I look like you understand. Yes, you know,
my eyelashes are fakes. It's not like you're going to go, oh,
look at this fun picture. We were in Utah. I
know you were in Utah. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
That was the picture? How did you know that?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Because that's exactly the reason why you didn't exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
We have a lot of information. Listen to. Matt Gates
story has come out.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
They did a secret vote to release the Matt Gates
ethics report, despite the fact that he's not in it.
It's gonna be funny. Yeah, he came out with a tweet.
We'll talk about that coming up. I know you're you
are hiking. Your husband loves to hike, and Mount Baldy
is off limits and people are losing their ever.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Hyping because of the ice and the cold and the sun.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
We'll tell you coming up next hour. Justin Warsham is
going to join us. We're going to do what you're watching. Wednesday.
All of this is coming up. We start where we
unfortunately have had a big week, and that is in Madison, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So I have a question about this.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I was reading this morning about how both the parents divorce.
Parents have been married repeatedly remarried multiple times.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Right, how does that happen? It's not a clean This
is not a clean home life. We'll tell you that.
This fifteen year old shooter.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's so sad because they said that with the custody arrangement,
that she was going back and forth two or three
days a piece with each home.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Because there's a thing that happens. My understanding and having
seen it relatively close, there's an incredible amount of selfishness
narcissism that comes into play when you're talking about custody
of children.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That you're the better parent, and.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You fight for that despite the fact you're not thinking
about what's better for the child. You're very rarely thinking
about what's the way that I can make sure that,
despite my disagreements with her or him, my child or
my children are the ones that are going to be
able to live through this.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Isn't that the best version of it?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Though I'm the better parent, I should have the kids
as opposed to someone who doesn't want the kids.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, I would rather yes, But you have to be
able to learn to at some point give up that
fight in the context of doing something better for the child.
Melissa is the mom. She had been previously married and divorced.
She had another daughter with a different guy to whom
she was never married. So this half sister of the
(04:41):
shooter is now twenty years old. Melissa and Jeff mother
and father, divorced for the first time in twenty fourteen,
and at that point they agreed to legal custody of
their shared daughter. But they did, but they did specify
that she was going to live mostly with mom. That
I mean, in general, you can make an assumption that
(05:02):
it's better for a girl to grow up with mom
at times, not always, but at times.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
There was a twenty twenty two document with regard to
custody that reflected that they were on cordial terms. It's
that the parents report a generally positive co parenting relationship
and will continue to communicate with one another by text
messages and phone conversations.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, come, by the way, that's after they had remarried.
They divorced in twenty seventeen. They got married again in
twenty twenty and agreed to share custody again, and then
filed for divorce again in twenty twenty one. There's a
point where other family members if this guy's my brother,
if she's my sister, say I go, hey, keep the relationship,
(05:47):
but maybe not.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Let's see people wake marriage because people do not take
advice to You cannot give advice about people's relationships because
it'll bite your right in the behind.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And that'll alone that the you know, the on again,
off again marriage is not enough to no make decisions
about what kind of stuff this girl was going through.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But she was clearly going through something.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But isn't it interesting to dig into the intricacies of
other people's lives.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It frustrates me, I know because part of it is
because there's there's times I hate the fact that we
have to know this. And the reason we know it
is because their daughter committed this atrocious act of violence
and suicide. Don't forget they lost a fifteen year old
daughter and all of that.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
But it reminds you what people are going through. It
makes you feel grateful, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I I like my boring life.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's not boring.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It is a boring, boring life.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It is not boring, well I mean not, I mean
compared to this. Yesterday when you got home, talked to
my wife.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
We sat in the backyard for a few minutes, played
with the dog, I did some workout, did a workout,
helped my wife with cookies. This is a very full life.
Is that what you call that? My son came over.
We hung out for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Look at this, Look at all the things you have
going on. That's not boring.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And then we watched TV.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I watched a movie yesterday. Carry on, Yeah, the Netflix one.
Did you see it?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You shot on Friday? Isn't it great? It was really fun.
I loved it. You have to suspend this belief.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And if you've been to LAX, you know, wait a minute,
that that's not how it works at LAX.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Jason Bateman, though, what a fun person to hang out with,
Like I loved him as a bad guy, Like he's
somebody you would be friends with.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
He would never be friends with me.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I mean you, as in all of us. He's like
the guy you'd be. He seems like a relatively no
right like Paul Reser. Also, he would never hang out
with us.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
But selling us short. We are fun, We are not boring.
Latest on the drones when we come back.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
The conspiracy theories? My god, people, can't you fight over custody?
Do something else better with your time?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I don't know why this hit me. This is such
a perfect little meme that I found today. It's a
little video. I'm assuming it's on TikTok something like that.
It said, what happened to kids with casts? Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Broken broken rigs don't play anymore. They don't play anymore.
They don't play. There are just no casts anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's a whole video of kids doing like relatively crazy
things like today.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
We would think, oh, but careful, don't don't do the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But somebody said, when's the last time, or no, when
the last time you saw a kid with a cast?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well, I will say this, and I'm not an orthopedic surgeon,
but I do believe that the casting has evolved to
where you don't need to do the cast that we had.
You can put like a brace or tape or they're
they're not as cumbersome as they were when we were kids.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I don't think I could be wrong about that. Let
me know if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
This video goes on to say nowadays all injuries are psychological.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh my god, it's depressing.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You can't you can't have somebody sign your your chronic anxiety.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Wow, there is a weird flex.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I remember breaking my wrist because I was playing basketball
with the boys and and and I went up for
a jumper and just completely stuffed that that shot and
my wrist bent back.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Somebody blocked it. You made Yeah, Oh, I broke the
growth plate on my wrist.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Oh is that what happened?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, that's why you're as tall as you are.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Stop doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Did that freak out a little bit? No, But it's
this weird attention thing that comes from having what happened.
Oh my god, what is this attention that feels good?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
That's crazy?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But yeah, you don't get that with your chronic anxiety
because everybody has.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It and it's all down here. At least the cast
was a visible thing, right or the eyepatch, you know,
I had an eye patch.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You do not plant this seed because now there's going
to be some sort of a weird patch you wear
if you have anxiety.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Oh no, well, taking your your peaka poo to your
flight to Vegas is probably poo whatever dumb dog you have.
So somebody that I know has a peekapoo has ordered
therapy dog to be determined. We don't know if that's
true or not. We don't know if that's true. It's
(10:46):
a rumor. Okay, well i'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
On Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Thousand, recorded five thousand reported drone siding in recent weeks.
Obviously everybody's freaked out if you get into New York
and New Jersey, and like we've seen other plays around
the country, there have been these drone siding.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I've decided to get a lot of entertainment from this story.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
In terms of sussing out all of the conspiracy theories,
there's one guy, a US China relations expert, who says
that Americans should plan for the worst.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, because they've found more radiation.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, that there's been unexpected radiation spikes in the area.
And then there's the other conspiracy theory from Charlie Kirk
that this is all about Project Blue Beam.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Project blue Beam.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Was first introduced in the nineties, claims global elites will
destabilize the society by staging and unleashing massive supernatural events.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Hey, if the global elites, if the.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Democrats couldn't get it together to run someone better than
Kamala Harris, they're certainly not going to get it together
to destabilize.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The community and the country with drones.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Right, that takes a lot of brain power and a
lot of coordination.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's not things that they are stocked up on.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
One of the concern now is when you look at
it in a general sense, the concern is that whoever
is in control of these, if it's someone who has
nefarious plans for the United States, they've identified a problem,
which is obviously drones can't fly over American military installations
or very sensitive sites will shoot them down or take
them down however we do it. But outside of those areas,
(12:26):
you know, the city of Burbank, for example, you could
fly a drone around here, and we don't have the
laws or the capability to take that thing out of
the sky in the event that it's not identified correctly
or it poses a threat to somebody, et cetera. And
that that is kind of the weak spot when it
comes to our drone policies. So the Pentagon has things right.
(12:56):
I mean, we've seen drone attacks on foreign military bit
I mean sorry, our military bases in foreign countries, and
we've seen our defenses against them, whether it's a machine
gun that shoots a bazillion bullets a second, just kind
of filling the air with lead to take these things down,
(13:17):
or electronic ways to jam their signals, or whatever it
is that we do to do it. I don't know
what it is, but I'm thankful that we have it.
Can we now employ those things here on a larger scale?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Trump has talked about shooting them down, And I ask
you this, if he was president right now, would he
order the New Jersey police to shoot these things down?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Or he couldn't order them, he would order that whatever,
you know what.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I mean, absolutely, And what's the worst case scenario in
that event? Well, if they are shot out of the
sky and they fall on people and kill people.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, if they are as big as SUVs like some
people have described them, they could do a lot of damage.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
But and then the liability that comes along with that.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
But this is the thing, and again I don't know
why we're now almost four weeks into this story about
it's a weird drone sighting over the state of New
Jersey and relatively sensitive sights that no one has peeled
off a shot. Are they hard to hit?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I don't know. Are they far enough away?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Do they move erratically that you don't have somebody with
a good long range shooting record that could take one
of these things. Now, I don't know, but that people
haven't heard, like neighbor Bob got fed up with their
knees out there empty in his clip into the night
sky trying to hit this thing.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm amazing. And how real is the story?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Does it just have all of the oxygen in the
room right now because people are talking about it? Is
it really a thing that there's so many drones flying
around New Jersey?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Everybody from that area has stories. Yeah, I mean so,
I don't know if but that's again, I don't know
if it's a real thing or if this is now
we've reached that point where there's enough hysteria that it
is kind of perpetuating this thing without a whole lot
of facts.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I'm kind of leaning towards that being the case.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
All right, coming up next, the Matt Gates Report is
actually going to come out.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Holy hell, why the reversal? Or here's the thing they
voted a while ago. This wasn't a this morning thing.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
They voted a while ago to release this report and
we're just finding out about it now.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Guy in Virginia went out hunting and one of the
other hunters shot a bear that had been chased up
a tree. Bear falls out of the tree, falls onto
a guy named Lester fifty eight years old did killed
by the way to the bear.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
So the funny version of that is that I not
that that's not funny, because it kind of is. But
I read the headline and I thought it said Viagra hunter,
not Virginia hunter.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
What do you think that says about you?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
And I'm inundated with those stupid commercials all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
It's an agent stage thing.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
I'm fine, hey, it's your business off limits.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
There. The Dow Jones Industrial Libe, we are not ever advertising.
We have we have two rules. Yep, no boner pills,
right and what was the other one?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It like veros veins.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Uh. The Dow Jones Industrial average is in positive territory today.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's up about two hundred points.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
But man, they're just simply trying to avoid the ten
day mark of ten days of losses.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Now, this has been the worst.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
We mentioned yesterday nine days of negative on the Dow
Jones Industrial average was the first time since the seventies
that that had happened. That being said, we are less
than four percent off of the all time high still.
So the thing is things are just fine still. Red
flag warning up your fire out in your group of alley.
The Soto Fire said about thirty acres twenty percent containment.
(17:06):
They got a hand on that pretty quickly before things
got out of hand.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
The House Ethics Committee secretly voted earlier this month to
actually release that report into Matt Gates. The report will
be made public or is expected to be made public
after the House's final day of votes this year, which
I think is tomorrow. Is tomorrow, well, that's what I read.
(17:31):
At least, are they hoping that they can just release
it and then it dies in the holidays, because it's
not going to die.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I don't know if that's what they.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Redacted, Is it truncated, is it the full report?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
What do we know? Question?
Speaker 6 (17:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
If, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
If Congress, well, I guess they could do redactions, but
I don't know who would be responsible for that. The
Ethics Committee report looked into several allegations against Matt Gates,
including whether or not he engaged in sexual misconduct, used
illicit drugs, shared inappropriate images or videos on the house floor,
misused state ID records, converted campaign funds to personal use,
(18:11):
and or accepted a bribe in proper gratuity or impermissible gifts.
That was the announcement last summer when they were looking
into all of this. Now, he didn't immediately respond to
her request for comment by CNN, but of course he
went to social media, and he said.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
He engaged in embarrassing but not criminal past behavior.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, embarrassing sounds juicy, he says.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
In my single days, I often sent funds to women
I dated, even some I never dated.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But who asked we know somebody like that? Oh do
you remember that? Yeah, so I didn't know that was
a thing.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I didn't either.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And it is a thing where you use the cash
app or what have you to send money to women
that you hope to.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Have sex with or are.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Having right what what is like I wouldn't accept to
drink from a guy when I was single, Like, ah,
that's all just so gross, mad.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
How prevalent is that is?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Is that? Does that continue to be a thing you're
looking at that? Do you expect something from the woman
that you expect one hundred.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Despite what he may say, that's exactly why he would do.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Is this because guys aren't taking women to dinner anymore?
So you just send them money and they they buy
their their door dash and then you just have FaceTime sex.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Like what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
He says, I dated several of these women for years.
I never had sexual contact with someone under eighteen. Any
claim that I have would be destroyed in court, which
is why no such claim was ever made in court.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
My thirties this is.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Where I just this is what blows me away. My
thirties were an era of working very hard and playing
hard too. It's embarrassing, though not criminal, that I probably partied, womanized, dranked,
drank and smoked more than I should have earlier in life.
I live a different life now, but at least I
(20:16):
didn't vote for crs that f over the country reference
to the continuing resolution that the House just passed so
that they don't have a government shutdown this weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
He said, f the country. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Because some of the people listen again, the algorithms are crazy.
But some of the people who respond to this on
social media say.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, this is why we love Matt Gates.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Matt Gates, just so you know, is a completely politically
impotent figure right now. He's not doing anything. He resigned
from Congress even though he knew his nomination for Attorney
General was going to be an uphill climb. He did
(21:02):
not have a backup plan, and he is now waiting
for whatever Trump has planned for him. And this is
a weird place for him to be. Him shouting into
the ether like this, Well, I never did this, and
I'm just I'm guilty of being a good time guy.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I'm guilty of partying too hard. Live hard, play, hard, work,
hard play hard. James Comer, Congressman, what says date rape
like work, hard play hard.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
James James Comer, the congressman is the head of the
I think he's the head of the House Intelligence Committee.
Was asked about this and said, Matt Gates teamed up
with Democrats to oust Kevin McCarthy back in the day.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
How did that sit with Republicans?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
There were a lot of people Republicans that didn't approve
of the way that Gates worked with the two hundred
and eleven Democrats to have the motion to Ak succeed
and get rid of McCarthy, and that led to three
and a half weeks of pretty tough living conditions here
in the Capitol trying to find a replacement. So I'm
(22:06):
not surprised. I think it's unfortunate. But at the end
of the day, I think that the American people probably
want to see this ethics report.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And you know, Marjorie whatever her name is, said it
best about all right, you want to unearth what Matt
Gates did, let's all dance in the sunlight or whatever
the hell she said. Do you know how many people
in Congress are guilty of the same stuff Matt Gates is,
but maybe a different version. Maybe not the cash app version,
but like the you know whatever came before. Listen, drugs,
(22:36):
the party of the womanizing, part of the lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Up next.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
I mean Mitch McConnell alone. Look at that guy, you
know he's getting after it.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I'd be more interested in Lindsey Graham's back. Oh yeah,
that's hot.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Life in South Carolina gets steamy at time. Get swampy
down in them. Oh no, I'm in in location wise,
it gets swampy.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Not that all right?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Coming up next, legal experts say, it is going to
be hard to convict Luigi Mangioni a first degree murder.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Can you believe that? Yes you can.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I don't remember how
to do it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You put your arm out like this and this, this
and then this. That's all I remember, okay, and then
there's a cross shaky. Can't do that, can't do that,
can't do that really, and then you jump and turn
a quarter like ninety degrees.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Forty five degrees ninety ninety right, forty five would be silly,
that would just be like.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
There'd be a lot of turns. Yeah, NASA's two struck
stuck astronauts are going to be stuck even longer. Which
Williams and Sunny Williams planned on being away just a
week when they blasted off June fifth. Now they're talking
about eight months instead of eight days. They will not
be back until the end of March or maybe even
April because of a delay in launching their replacements. According
(24:06):
to NASA.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Luigi Mangioni was accused of first degree murder in the
fatal shooting of that United Healthcare CEO in New York.
Premeditation is not enough to get you to a first
degree murder charge. You have to have an aggregate aggravating factor.
So they have charged him with the furtherance of terrorism.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, the weird Under New York law, murder in the
first degree only applies to when the victim is a judge,
a police officer, first responder, or when the killing involves
a murder for hire or an intent to commit terrorism.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Or torture, which I would have gone with because when
you get into the penal code here, torture says the
defendant acted in an especially cruel and wanton manner pursuant
to a course of conduct intended to inflict and inflicting
torture upon the victim prior to the victim's death. I
could see that argument of he shot him a couple times,
(25:04):
the gun shot, the initial shots were not fatal, he
came over and finished him off. That could be torture
killing somebody by multiple gunshot wounds.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I could get there as a juror. As opposed to
terrorist terrorism.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Well, one of the things that they've discussed is this
is similar to what the DA did when it came
to Daniel Penny's case. Alvin Bragg, in the Daniel Penny case,
was charged with both second degree manslaughter and criminally negligent
(25:41):
homicide in the death of Jordan Neely. We talked about
that case earlier and one of the reasons they said
that they double charged, well, that's not even the right term.
The reason that they charged one count at a lesser
count is it may be this strategy where you set
up the conditions for a plea to the lesser charge,
where he's got the ability to, you know, eventually get
(26:01):
some get out of prison at some point, and if
there isn't a plea, it then sets up the condition
as well for the jury compromise on the lesser charge.
That's what Alvin Bragg thought he was going to do
with Daniel Penny. If he wasn't able to get second
degree manslaughter which they were deadlocked on, that he would
get criminally negligent homicide which they did not. Was thrown
(26:22):
out eventually. Is that was the case it was thrown
out or how that specifically ended. But yeah, at the
same time, this is such a high profile case, why
don't you just get the charge that you know you're
going to get why wouldn't you charge him with second
degree murder if that's what fits this crime specifically.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's just wild because it is definitely a premeditated murder,
which is above the threshold for second degree murder, but
definitely not terrorism. And then you, you know, you can
be seen as throwing the book at him. And what
does that do for the public backlash?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
That is the that's the weirdest aspect I think of
this case, is that public backlash, the public support that
has come out for this guy and specifically for his
act of murder.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Would you say forty one percent of respondence to that
survey yesterday said that they get it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
People under the age of twenty nine.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, they either understand or it was something like
supported or fully supported something crazy like that for percent.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That crazy woman that we've talked about before. I heard
John talking about it yesterday. What's her name? She's just
incendiary online with her ridiculous Oh, Taylor Lawrence. Yes, And
she was like I felt something to the effect of,
like my heart felt warm when I when I heard
about this killing.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, she's an awful person.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Why people keep.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Running You're giving her a garbage human, garbage human.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yes, possibly say you have a boring life.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
You get to see and work closely with Shannon every
day on every day, but five days a week.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
That is so exciting. Can you tell that that I
was changing my voice a little bit? Yeah, just a
little higher regis sounds good? Right?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, Hey, good morning.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yeah. Hey, you know my son just snapped his wrists,
cracked it or broke it. He's in the cast. He's
bombed now, he can't play a baseball.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Broke it.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
He was on a bike. Fell and you know, kids
natural instinct stick stick their handout. But yeah, he's in
a cast. He was in a cast. They take it
up at the end of this month, so he'll be
in it for about a month and a half. Yeah,
lucky him.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You know what good job being a parent? You know that?
To me? Your kids in a cast, that's a good job.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Play outside, unless it was an e bike then no,
I say, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
This is Rick.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Hey, Rick, I learned that Shannon needs more conspiracy. This
little deal with thenes, this total misdirection. All you got
to do is figure out what we're not supposed to
be looking at.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Ah, I like that, what are we being distracted from
with the drones?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
What's going on on the ground in New Jersey as
opposed to the sky?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Mm hmm, no not I don't know, not a lot
of much of anything.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
See, this is why you're boring. You've got a de boring.
I know your life is boring. It's not. Nothing's boring.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
You miss any part of our show, you can always
go back and listen to the podcast KFI dot com
slash Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Remember when you were on the iheard fix your fireplace?
That was exciting times.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
That was pretty exciting, right I guess hell yeah, uh
you got to see it.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I'm really happy with it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I mean, you're not living the life of a days
in in Glendale.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Hey, there's plenty of time left in this year.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Or was it a Super eight?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
That was the days Then.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
When we return, you like to hike Mount Baldy, You're
gonna have to put pause, hit hit pause, put pause,
hit pause on that.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
For a whole year.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, it's gonna be a while.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been
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