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April 25, 2025 30 mins
The BI director announced that a Wisconsin judge has been arrested for allegedly obstructing ICE. In a wide-ranging interview, Trump claimed that he has made “200” tariff deals and discussed a phone call with Chinese President Xi. Additionally, there is speculation about who will attend Pope Francis’ funeral. After nearly 50 years spent indoors, Rockalina the Turtle is finally experiencing the great outdoors.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is big news.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
This is the arrest of Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan.
This is the first publicly known instance of the Trump
administration going after a local official for interfering with immigration enforcement.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is kind of what people.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Have been warning about the Trump administration, that they are
going to use their power to go after different branches,
different private people. And I mean, you could make the
case either or if this is a private person who
is not biding their agenda, not.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Going along.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
FBI Director Cash Bettel, if you're keeping track, said yes,
a bureau has arrested this judge and charged her with
obstructing an immigration or arrest operation last week. This first announcement,
by the way, came on X. To your point that
the President's been using social media to make big announcements

(01:03):
or announced big reactions to big events that are going
on globally. This announcement was made on X Initially.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Listen, it's an acknowledgment that the media landscape is different
than it was five years ago, ten years ago, but.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
It still doesn't ring.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
It doesn't make me comfortable that that is how our
federal government has been working. The other story is similar
to this. ICE agents arrested a former magistrate judge out
of New Mexico. They are involved in a case. They
being the judge and his wife. They're involved in a

(01:41):
case where alleged Venezuelan gang members were staying on their property.
Two of the three men apparently on the property were
taken into custody this week, and they had to do
this search warrant on the former judges property. So they're
not messing around and any judge or anybody it seems

(02:03):
that has been harboring what ICE is described as violent criminals,
They're going.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
To go after them pretty quickly. This is going to
be a headline throughout the course of the day to day.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Just to get into the specifics of what's going on
with the Milwaukee judge. This is according to reporters with
the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. ICE agents arrived in the judges
court room last Friday during a pre trial hearing for
Eduardo Ruiz, a thirty year old Mexican national who's facing
misdemeanor battery charges in Wisconsin. The judge asked the agents

(02:38):
to leave and speak to the circuit Court's chief judge.
By the time they returned, the guy, the Mexican national,
had left. So Patel wrote in his post today, we
believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the
subject to be arrested in her courthouse to evade arrest.

(03:02):
That she sent them away so that she could get
in the way of an Ice arrest.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah. That is not going to go well. It's not
going to go well for either side.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
It looks bad that the judge is trying to thwart
ICE's arrest procedures. And it looks bad that it's the
Trump administration arresting judges that rule against what he wants.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I mean, it's bad both ways.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
This is the kind of stuff that happens in other
countries where the government goes in and sorts arresting judges. Yeah,
and judges subverting any sort of powers that be when
it comes to the administration's agenda.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
And I don't well, I mean, this is one of
those things that.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
The way this administration in the first hundred days of
Trump's second term, the way it's been defined by a
number of court battles that have gone both ways. To
be honest, I mean, most recently, there have been several hearing,
several decisions i should say judicial decisions that have gone

(04:10):
against the administration. But there are plenty where Trump feels
completely vindicated their decisions to you know, the Supreme Court.
As the example, when we talk about the guy that
was arrested in Maryland and sent to this prison in
El Salvador Abrego Garcia. The lower court had suggested that
they need to facilitate the you know, repatriation or whatever

(04:33):
term you want to use of this guy, get him
out of El Salvador and bring him back to Maryland.
And then the Supreme Court's decision, which was basically a
slap on the wrist of the administration suggesting that yeah,
you do need to do something, but that the lower
court needs to go back and to define what it
means to facilitate the return, and the Trump administration using

(04:55):
it as a victory, taking a victory lap on something
that really wasn't a victory for them.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
It's this very weird thing.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
It seems like the courts are working the way they're
supposed to, that the branches of government are doing the
checks and balances that were originally designed by the Constitution.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
That's the way it's set out. It's just one of those.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
It's the most active checks and balances I think we've
seen in one hundred and fifty years.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, the NFL Draft kicked off last night. To my goodness,
everybody's bracket was shattered when Travis Hunter was selected that early.
That was the guy we talked about that wants to
play both sides of the ball, wide receiver and cornerback.
Obviously very talented. But that was a shock. And not
a shock was Dion Sanders kid dropping out of the

(05:45):
first round. We talked about the probability of that.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
I think the.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Anticipation over the draft kind of ends after round one.
You got to be a real fan to get weedy
and get into well second round maybe not so weedy,
but as you get into the weekend.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
If you're still if you're still paying attention late Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
What I like to do is on Sunday, look at
the Chargers and the forty nine ers and look at
everybody they got, and then start doing my homework and
seeing and seeing what's what Tonight. The Dodgers are back
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Speaker 3 (06:26):
Skemes against Yoshinobu Yamamoto should be read, Wow, what a great.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
That is a game I will maybe watch.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I saw something else.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
The reason I brought it up now I'm remembering about
the NFL draft is Deon Sanders's kid. Did you hear
about the draft room that he had made or.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
See the pictures? Okay?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I saw an Instagram video that he said, like after
all the picks were gone, and he's like, hey, wasn't
it first tonight? Obviously you know, it's not my plan,
it's God's plan kind of thing. And in the background
it looks like there's a full on banquet tent.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, it had been erected for this thing.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
He had a draft room made with dad's money.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Of course, of course his.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Or his Yeah, the hell do I know?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
But screens more than one the size of the entire
wall across the entire room. It's white with black paint
and just as legendary everywhere in different fonts. Legendary, legendary,
and I mean a lot of egg on your face.
To create a draft room with legendary plastered all over
it and fall out of the first rounds, that should

(07:37):
build character and a little hubris.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
No it will not, I know.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
But when I saw that, I was like, and this
is exactly why you fell out of the first round.
This room right here, one legendary on the wall is
the reason you fell out.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
No one around him will tell them.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Did you see cam Ward?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Be interviewed cam Ward who went number one in the draft,
quarterback out of Miami Hurricanes. He was with his parents,
He had the thinnest of chains on, totally unassuming and
just thanked God, the most humble kid.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
And you're like, and that is your number one pick?

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Right there?

Speaker 5 (08:10):
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AM six forty Well's with all the theatrics.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I mean, there's there's something that judges and parole boards
hold in the highest regard, and that is accountability.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And if you don't show it, you're screwed. You're dear
to them.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Yeah, a tiny bit.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Of anything, any bit. And that's exactly what the judge
said today. George Santos, former US Representative George Santos, who
lied about his life story he defrauded donors total clown,
was sentenced to over seven years in prison. Started sobbing
as he heard his punishment. The district court judge said,
where's your remorse? Where do I see it? It's always

(08:53):
someone else's fault. It's so maddening, isn't it. He served
in Congress for barely a year before everyone in the
house was like, this guy's a fraud, this guy's a phony.
Happened in twenty twenty three. He played a guilty last
summer to federal wire fraud and aggravated identity theft.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
The maximum seven years three months in prison, and he
knew it going into it. He said he probably was
going to get the maximum. Tomorrow, of course, the funeral
for the Pope. Will talk at the bottom of the
hour with Raymond Arroya. We talked to him earlier in
the week about what's going to happen Over the course
of the next several hours. President Trump, First Lady Milania

(09:31):
boarded Air Force one earlier this morning on their way
to Italy, so they will be at the funeral tomorrow.
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Speaker 1 (10:15):
President Trump said this week that President Shei Jinping of
China had called him. He said that his administration is
talking with China to strike a tariff deal. Beijing says,
what is she talking about?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
President? Please?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
He did an interview with Time magazine Trump did on
Tuesday that was just published today. He did not say
when she called or what the two leaders discussed.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
He said that he would not call.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
She Trump said he's called, and I don't think that's
a sign of weakness on his behalf. My goodness, true,
he did.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
He did answers question about this as he was about
to board Marine one there at the White House this morning.
When asked exactly what the talks have entailed, he said,
he's not going to talk about it. So it's hard
to pin this guy down on what exactly is happening
with this. But we did see after this meeting with

(11:18):
a bunch of CEOs from the targets and the walmarts
and the home depots. Earlier this week, we saw some
softening on the president's part when it came to the
one hundred and forty five percent tariffs and said that
they will come down. It just he didn't get into
specifics and he didn't say when.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
So let me read between the lines here. Shijinping did
not call President Trump. That did not happen. What could
have happened? That has been going on our ongoing communications
between people underneath both presidents.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Right, and we know that there is an entourage of
Chinese officials including I think their finance minister in Washington,
d C. So it's very likely that there are some
of those lower level talks. Before she or Trump picks
up the phone and calls the other, they're going to
have what they refer to as the contours of a

(12:07):
conversation already in place.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Trump, in this interview with Time magazine, says he has
made two hundred tariff deals and is expected to finish
negotiations in about hundred. With two hundred, I'm assuming two
hundred different countries.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
How many countries are there in the world, two hundred
and twelve. How many countries are there? There are one
hundred and ninety five countries. Okay, but we've already got
two hundred deals that we're working on.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
But I'm wondering if all those countries have their own
universal trade agreements.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Well, the European Union talks for seventeen members, is it
something like that not included in the list of the
one hundred and ninety five countries Taiwan, Well.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
In two hundred tariff deals, it's not just each country
does a deal overall. It's like I'll make a deal
with steel out of China and coal out of somebody,
you know what I mean. Like, each country probably has
a number of things that they export an import from
the United States, right, so you know, if you just
look at I mean, China is a bad example. We

(13:21):
get everything from there because they've got everything. But you know,
say we get five things from Lithuania. Sure we could
make five different deals out of Lithuania when it comes
to tariffs on those five different industries.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Okay, so it's just probably that.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
But anyway, he said two hundred tariff deals and expected
to finish negotiations in about three or four weeks. We
have no details on any of the deals that were made,
no idea about like I was opining about which industries
are affected or anything of the like.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
The White House Official Press Office has been talking about
a little more than a dozen, but no more than
two dozen deals that have been worked out and are
waiting to be signed.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
All Right.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
The Pope's funeral is tomorrow. It's gonna be a who's who?
What an event to go to, My goodness, it's like
the met We'll be talking to our correspondent, Raymond Arroyo.
He's host of the Arroyo Grande podcast. He interviewed Pope Benedict.
He's anchored more live papal events than anyone in the industry.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
He's a great resource.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
He is our go to guy when it comes to
the conclave, which is upon us, and it is not
without controversy.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
We'll get into it.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Coming up next, Gary and Shannon will continue.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Coming up, we will be talking to Raymond Arroyo. He
has been called in last minute because sometimes you gotta
you gotta call in the pope, the pope correspondent, you know,
onto the national news, and so Raymond was called in
right away on Fox. So we'll be hooking up with
him at about eleven about what's going on with the conclave, because,

(15:05):
like I said before the break, it is not without controversy.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
There is a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
We talked to yesterday about the convicted cardinal that wants in.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
He wants his vote to count.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
And and the fact that the cardinals haven't really been
hanging out with each other because that wasn't the dead
Pope's jam was. He did not like to hold house parties,
so they're kind of figuring each other out.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Those parties I'm just making it more conversation, and there's
there's a lot that you know, we've talked earlier in
the week. We talked about how Pope Francis wanted a
lower key burial. He didn't live in the usual papal residence.
He kind of holed up in a pretty spare hotel
room there at the Vatican. And he's not going to

(15:50):
be buried in the triple casket like all the other popes.
He's just doing a simple pine box. But we won't
see the difference. I mean, all of the pomp and
circumstance that comes with the burial of a pope. We'll
still be on display tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
You sneeze, Yeah, okay, how did you know?

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Because I could see it in your face.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Oh look at a light. Not that light look really
bright during the sun. I'm not still blinded from amy.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Pre Orders for Nintendo Switch too kicked off after the
clock struck midnight.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Ah you guys, chaos.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
It is k os out there, super high demand for
the Nintendo Switch to a lot of people want Nintendo's
latest fun console. This is officially going to launch June fifth,
but this was the pre order line. A lot of
people ran into frustrating delays, saw listings quickly sell out

(16:49):
at Target, Walmart, Best Buy in the wee hours of
the night. Game Stop began accepting pre orders for the
Switch to Yesterday hours following the late night launches at
other retail and quickly reported overwhelming demand, like crashing demand
a Game Stop over the switch.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Too, Keana, are you a switch to person?

Speaker 4 (17:08):
She is? And did you go on at midnight?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
And I doubt she did? No, I didn't, unfortunately, asked
Brian if I could, and he said no, Oh, let's
get him on the horn. That's a good start to
a marriage right there.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Setting boundaries. Was he afraid that he was going to
lose you to that? Like you would stop paying attention.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
She doesn't want the money to be spent.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's a lot of money, Yeah, the money, Yeah a lot.
Here's the thing, Gary, husbands only care about one thing,
and it's called money.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
It's not true. That is not true.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Okay, I could think at least one other thing that
they think and care about.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, I mean, come on, okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
All right, let's talk about the pope. Who's going to
be there tomorrow right tonight?

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Is the night tonight.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I think it's about gosh, five o'clock, six o'clock our time.
Tonight is when they do the official closing of the
closing of the coffin in preparation for the burial. He's
not going to be buried in the catacombs of the Assistine.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Chapel, is that right?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Or Saint Peter's Basilica. Where is the pope buried. He's
not going to be buried with all the other popes.
I know that that was one of the things.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
But there's some popes buried in avign Young.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I think, well, there was a time when they were, yeah,
in the France, weren't they. So Donald Amlaniy Trump, we
know that the Vice President, we know the President and
the first Lady will be there.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
They left this morning to head over to Italy.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Prince William, King Charles's eldest son, is confirmed to be
at the at the funeral tomorrow. He will be representing
the king. Of course, the King is has been dealing
with cancer treatments and stuff, so I don't know if
it's that, if that's the reason, or if there were
other scheduling issues. Caro Starmer is the British Prime minister

(19:02):
representing the uk of course confirmed by a spokesperson that
he will be there. Vladimir's Lenski. This is the biggest surprise.
I suppose the Ukrainian president is expected to be there tomorrow.
They met last in October of last year when Zelenski
was making a tour through Europe.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Santa Maria Maggiori is where he will be buried. This
is an important place from the Pope's youth, really one
of the four papal basilicas in Rome. He would regularly
go into Santa Maria Maggiori Saint Mary Major, also called

(19:47):
It's a fourth century basilica distinctive bell tower. It's perched
on one of Rome's seven ancient hills. It lies between
the coliseum and the Termini train station. During the Roman Empire,
that served it as a burial round for slaves. There
you go on one visit, the Pope had a close
encounter with a suspected pickpocket, but that did not sully

(20:07):
his experience. Pickpocket, Oh yeah, pickpockets are all over Rome.
It was the first thing that happened to us when
we got to Rome. It was on the escalator from
the train station from the airport. Two guys stop the escalator,
tried to pickpocket us, and then I started talking and
they ran away. But anyway, this is where he will

(20:28):
be buried.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
That's your defense making.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
He's the first pope in more than a century not
to be buried in the grottos beneath Saint Peter's Basilica Peters.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
They do the grotto, that's a nice way to put it.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Not everybody's as sullied as Los Angeles, and when they
hear grotto, they think of the freaking Clayboy mansion.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
You sicko.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
The European Union Commission president will be there, the President
of Argentina, which of course is where Pope Francis was born.
Javi Amilia will be there. Georgia Maloney, the Italian Prime Minister.
Probably the shortest trip, but she'll be there as well.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
When you brought the Sistine Chapel, you weren't far off
from the festivities because that's where the conclave meets.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, that's where they select a new pope. I believe
I'll look that up before somebody yells at me, Hey, this.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Was gonna be a fun thing, because we have to
do fun stuff on Friday, we will do what you
learned this week on the Gary and Channon Show, coming
up late in the show, right before the news nuggets.
But this was something that was prompted from earlier this week.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Gary and Channon. I thought it would be a cool
talk back feature to hear what other people call themselves
instead of grandma and grandpa. Ah.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I'm yah yah yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I do like that one a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
I love yah ya. That's a great idea. I love
to hear the creativity that goes on. Gigi Glama all
the things go go go go.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yes, grandkids call her go go.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I have a go go as a grand God rest
his soul, not me. One of my girlfriends her dad.
Her kids referred to her dad as great.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
My I don't know if it was something that was
dictated by my parents. We only said grandma and grandpa,
never first names. It was always grandma and Grandpa. My kids, though,
would refer to my parents as Papa Dick and Grandma Jen.
I mean you had to use both names when you

(22:28):
would speak of that person. Interesting, But and Keana was
saying earlier today, it's usually the oldest or the first
grandkid that kind of sets the tone for everybody all
the pre proceeding.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So whoever, whatever name they come up with,
is that that's the name that's going to stick.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
With Well, the thing is, there's families where the grandparents
come up with their own names, like my parents did that,
like I'm going to be called this, And then there's
the families where the kids. I always liked it when
the kids choose the names. That's always most fun for me.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
I wrote.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
To watch from the outside is like, you know, you know,
if a kid can't pronounce a name or can't pronounce
grandma and it comes out, you know, gama, and then
your gama.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
For the whole your whole life, that's always a fun thing.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Or googie or whatever. My wife said. This would have
been years ago. She said something about how she wanted
to be called Lali as a grandma, and I wrote
it down. I took a note in my phone for
some reason that was our kids were barely teenagers at
the time, but I remember that.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
So are you gonna put that as an edict in
when when your first grandchild comes.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Up, Yeah, you shall refer to her.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
What would you like to be called Fonsie. Oh, that
would be great. Let's do it Grandpa Fonsa rally. Yeah, yeah,
I like it.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
One of the big stories today, President Trump says that
Crimea will stay with Russia to definitive statement today about
the need for Ukraine to give up some of its
territory to end the war with Russia. He made these
comments in an interview with Time magazine that the interview
actually was done on Tuesday, but was released today. Crimea
is the peninsula right along the Black Sea in southern

(24:16):
Ukraine that Russia seized back in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Joe Biden's going to the pope's funeral. Oh makes sense,
Catholic president. Oh yeah, Ok, he's met the Pope several times.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
I guess that's true.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah. Do you remember the Turpin kids.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
I do.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I've got a story that sounds like their story. But
it's about a turtle, and it's just one turtle. It's
not a whole. Okay, you're so disappointed.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I am slightly disappointed. Not so disappointed. Okay, all takes
slight disappointment.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Light disappointment, not back in nineteen seventy seven, Can I
have some music?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Back in nineteen seventy seven, there was a young boy
and he was playing in his yard in New York
and he stumbles upon a wild eastern box turtle and
the boy takes in the turtle. The family takes in
the turtle, and for the next fifty years, the turtle

(25:19):
stayed in the home. She remained on the kitchen floor.
She ate cat food occasionally lettuce. Now, this box turtle,
eastern box turtle. Had she lived in the wild, she'd
lived near water, she would take in the sunlight. She
would have worn her nails down naturally in forest terrain.

(25:41):
But that's not what happened with roc Aalina, the wild
Eastern box turtle. No, she lived in that kitchen, ate
that cat food, and recently, Garden State tortoise. A reptile
rehab center got a hold of rock A Lina. I
don't know what happened to the family, but rock Allina
was the serve and she made her way into this

(26:03):
rehab and the guy who runs it was really worried
about rock Aalina. Her skin was discolored, it was sloughing
off her nails, were not worn down as they would
naturally have been in the forest terrain. No, they were
curled in misshapen. They had grown back into her feet.
One leg was impartially bad shape. They thought that she

(26:24):
was going to lose that leg. Her eyes were covered
in dead skin. She could not see this was a
turtle on her last legs, quite literally. But they got
her to the rehab center. Nails, they I'm not to
that point. Oh, they gave her a warm bath.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Every recovery story starts with a warm bath, doesn't it.
With just forty five minutes of her being in warm water,
her eyes opened and you could tell that she was
just like, where am I?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
According to the guy who runs the rehab center, his
name Chris, it was a box turtle that inspired Chris
to start his reptile center.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
He was five.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
He was playing in a sandbox with his Gi Joe's
and dad was mowing the lawn and that's when he found.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
His first box turtle.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
He could have handed me anything that day, he said
about his father, But it was a box turtle and
that stuck with me. I became enamored with them. Well
after rock Alina's first bath. She made steady progress. Chris
and the rescue centers VET gave her antibiotics, she got
some soft foods. They trimmed her nails, Gary trimmer nails,
and her beak it was shaped more like a ducks

(27:36):
than our turtle's hooked mouth because of our living conditions.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Oh is this her right here with the strawberries? Yeah,
Chris says.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
It was like this turtle seemed to know we were
helping her every single step of the way that we
did something, she immediately responded to it. She was moved
into a habitat that would mimic her natural ecosystem. It
was decked out with fake logs, a water area, pine needles,
and foliage. Kind of reminds me of the cage I

(28:03):
created for Hami Tar anyway. For Finally, in late April,
rock Alina went outside for the first time in nearly
fifty years. Member This turtle had been living in a
dirty kitchen eating cat food. She finally saw the outdoors.
Chris says, when they put her outside, rock Alina was like,

(28:24):
what is this this soft grass? She perked up. She
stared into the sky. She cocked her head, blinked her
eyes and munched on an earthworm.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
What's the future hold for RockA Fina? No more cat food,
only live worms.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
That sounds. That sounds.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Did you imagine being trapped in a dirty kitchen eating
cat food and maybe a piece of lettuce for fifty
years and then somebody takes you outside and they're like, hey,
look at all.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
This, Look at all these earthworms.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
That incredible And I love the part how everything they
did for her to take care of her, she acknowledged.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
She responded to, I want to know, first of all,
what news organization published the story.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
It was mpr ah okay, which I think is a
good use of their time.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Probably.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
My mother was an Afrikaans speaking South African, so grandmother
and grandfather in Afrikaans is oma and opah oma sounds
kind of Greek, but it's not oma and opah ou
pa and ouma.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
What did your what did you call your grandparents? We'll
take these talk packs and we'll do these a little
bit later as well. I have to get to.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
This compost story. You're going to lose your mind, Okay.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I haven't looked at my email in about three weeks,
so uh good, don't okay, you've.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
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