(12/21) HOTL Hour 2

Handel on the Law. Marginal legal advice.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six Fortyfi.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Handle here Saturday morning, another couple of hours to go
for Richard Moro Show's up for the Tech Show, And
as you know, I give a very marginal legal advice
here a phone number eight hundred five two zero one
five three four. So I don't know if it's the
weekend before Christmas the holiday season has grabbed you, but

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today we're very light on phone calls. Some days we're
jammed and some days we're not in some days in
the middle. So since it is a caller driven show,
I mean I could monologue, of course, for the entire hour,
two hours or three hours on various topics.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm too lazy to do that.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'd rather just sit back and answer your questions because
that's far more entertaining, both on my side and on
anybody that's listening to the show. So, while we do
have a couple of phone calls in and uh, well,
let me give you the phone number eight hundred five
two zero one five three four, eight hundred five two
zero one five three four. And obviously we have lines

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that are open and we are very close to doing Okay, guys,
it's time to listen. Instead of phone calls, which we're
not getting enough of, or instead of monologues, which I do,
It's time for you to listen to uh our go
to music while we just sit back and contemplate and

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the questions are gurgling in your mind. Uh So, Sam,
without further ado, let's listen to Baby Shark. Baby checked,
Baby checked it, Baby check, momy.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Chef it do.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
So here's what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
At some point, your head explodes, And I just wanted
to point that out where Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I can't take it anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You ever see the movie Scanners, That's where rays go
into your head and literally your head explodes.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Pretty much, that's what happens with Baby Shark.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
All right, This is handle on the law, marginal legal
advice where I tell you you have absolutely no case.
The George Floyd murder case that's back in the news.
So you have Eric Chauvin or Derek Chauvin, the cop
who was convicted of murder and violating George Floyd's civil rights,

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and we all know the story. Of course, Chauvin put
his knee on mister Floyd's neck for nine and a
half minutes. George Floyd says, I can't breathe. I can't breathe,
and Chauvin just ignores that, and Floyd goes unconscious and
ends up dying unfortunately. And then the other cops also
were convicted by letting it happen and didn't move in.

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Now the law is, it's been much more risk where
cops see what's going on, they have to interfere. Okay,
So he's convicted in state court on a murder charge.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
In twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
He pleads guilty in federal court to civil rights violations,
and he got a lot of years the conviction in
court if I have the numbers correct, twenty two and
a half years state murder charges, twenty years federal civil
rights that he pled to. And his lawyer, his appeals lawyer,

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is arguing, we want a new trial. Wait a minute,
why a new trial. Well, the argument is in effective council.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
His lawyer in the underlying trial.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Gave him an effective council, which is the grounds for appeal,
and you could overturn an eviction.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's not easy, but it can be done.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
And here's why the argument went, or here's how the
argument went, is that there was an outside pathologist not
involved in the case, who called his lawyer and said,
I have this theory.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think that Floyd.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Died not of exphyciation but of heart disease and an
undisclosed or an unknown tuper, and that's what caused his death,
not really sitting on his neck with a knee by Chauvin,
which I mean, come on. But here's the argument is

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that the attorney never went beyond that he got the
message and he never explored it, and therefore that should
have been part of defense, which is a serious part
of the defense that may have turned the jury the
other way or he would have pled. He would never
have pled guilty. And the appeals court, and you know what,

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the judge said, Yeah, we'll We'll let you test the
tissue samples taken from Floyd. The prosecution argued it should
stop right here because it totally it's a theory that's
never been proved, that's never been argued. It makes no sense.
But yet he's still the doctor still called the attorney

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for the Chauvin's attorney, and what they wanted is simply
the testing of the tissue to see if that theory
makes any sense at all.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
And the Supreme court or the A judge.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Federal District court judge said, didn't say whether or not
it made sense, but said, yes, you have the ability
to test the tissue and then come back and see
if that argument works in trial, another trial maybe. Okay,
let's go ahead and take some phone calls. All right, Clint, Hi, Clint, welcome.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Hi Bill.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Hey, A couple of months ago, I was going to
buy some stuff off a gentleman in his old building
and I fell through the floor.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh interesting, and I.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Had lost two weeks of work. The insurance company said
they will pay my insurance and my lost wages, but
the settlement was only going to be like a thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, How were you hurt, Clint? Were you hurt?

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:24):
How badly were you hurt?

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Just stiffness and soreness for about six long enough for
about six months? Now.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Uh? Have you talked to a personal injury lawyer?

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Well? Not yet, but I would, I would.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
You know, it's not a huge case. It's not a
huge case. But just offering you one thousand.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Dollars really low. I mean, you know you.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Hurt for six months? Now, how do you prove you
hurt for six months. Did you go to a doctor?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Yes? Okay? Did you treat for your injuries?

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah? The times I went to the doctor for that
specific reason, we're all separated out.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
And okay, And how many times did you treat? Was
it a chiropractor or was it the doctor?

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Both?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Okay? How much money did you spend on that or
how much did they charge?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
They paid about they've paid the medical bills, probably about
four thousand.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
And they didn't give you, Oh, they didn't give you
pain and suffering.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, I talked to a personal injury lawyer and see
what you can get beyond that, I certainly would. And
you can go if you haven't talked to a lawyer,
go to handle on the law dot com. You know,
there are plenty of personal injury lawyers, some really good ones,
and they'll tell you in two seconds.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah that sounds like a decent case or no. So
at least you'll.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Know because it's a wobbler for me. Yeah maybe yes,
maybe no. And these guys know how to maximize what
you can get. So go to handle on the law
dot com and that's where you can get some really
good information on personal injury. This is handle on the
law they have by a handle here on a Saturday.

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Eight hundred five two zero one five three four okay,
and I guess baby Shark worked because we have some
phone calls. It's terrific. Arthur, Hi, Arthur, welcome. What can
I do for you?

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
There?

Speaker 8 (08:20):
You might remember I called a few weeks ago about
the current county code compliance and after the tax sail,
they put an extra charge of forty thousand dollars on
my tax bill. Well that's been resolved. I just called
the code compliance office and kept calling different offices until
that I found somebody who knew somebody you know, at

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their agency who could help.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Hey, did I give you that?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Did I give you the advice that you relied on
that got they got your money back?

Speaker 8 (08:50):
Actually? There, Yeah, you told me that there was really
you had no experience with that.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
But oh so you're just you just called to tell
me I didn't listen to you, bill, but I went
ahead and did it on my own.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
And I'm just letting you know that that happened. Is
that the point of this?

Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Okay, thank you, that's good to hear. I love those
phone calls I did, okay.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
And I didn't listen to what you had to say.
Now I get those. I get those fairly well.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Once in a great while, you got a calendar this one.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
I'll tell you what I get A lot is.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I listened to you, Bill, and it didn't work out.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I get so many of those I don't even bother anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
And when I first started doing Handle on the Law
decades ago, I remember I had a meeting with my
program director maybe three weeks after I started the show,
and he brought me into his office and he said,
I have a letter here from a lawyer, Bill, and
he said, you answered a question from someone who was

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involved in a will situation contesting a will. And the
lawyer said that you if if the person calling had
followed your advice, that would be the only way that
she would have been disinherited.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
That's the only way she could have lost is following
what you said.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And I said, yeah, it's about right. You know, I'm
not surprised.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
And he looked at me and said, well, keep the
ratings up, and then I left.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
That's typically what happens, man. Do I know my stuff? Huh?
All right? Seeda Hi said welcome, Yes, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 9 (10:42):
So with my youngest son thirty six, and I were
as strange since twenty sixteen?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Did I just lose you? All right?

Speaker 6 (10:56):
How's that?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
No? Okay, hold on, hold on you kind of for
a minute, you know, Welcome to the world of cell
far Okay, I lost you? Is my thirty six year
old son and I were a strange since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
That's when you were cut off. Let's go from there.

Speaker 9 (11:12):
And so in the last three and a half months,
I've been going to football games to watch my grandson's play,
and slowly we've been communicating. So November sixteenth comes around,
his wife leaves, cleans them out, leaves them with an
empty house. So he starts schmoozing me. And I had
to leave my place because my lease was up, and
he says, why don't you just come here from Orange

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County to Tahunga.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
So I did wait, wait, wait, yeah, yeah, he told
wait a second, He said to you, why don't you
come here and live with him?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Correct?

Speaker 9 (11:42):
Yes, okay, god, I needs okay.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Got it all right? Now?

Speaker 10 (11:45):
What?

Speaker 9 (11:46):
So I move in on December first. The next day
we had lovely thirty six hours, and then the next
day he hits me up for the entire rent and
I said, dude, I don't have it. I have half,
but I don't have the whole thing. And he said,
what are you talking about? You know what you were
in for. So now he broke his lease, he's leaving,

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and I'm being thrown out in the streets. On January tenth,
do I have any recourse? I spent twenty grand on
this kid.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, that doesn't matter. You spend twenty thousand. I mean,
what did you spend twenty thousand dollars on?

Speaker 9 (12:19):
I refurnished his entire freaking house.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
And then, ah, well good for you.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
All right, So obviously you were really smart about the relationship.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
No, you really don't. You really don't, because here you are.
You've moved in.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
You're not on the lease. He is out the door.
The landlord wants you out unless you cut a deal
with the landlord saying I will take over the lease
and I will pay you know, and you write a
new lease. But no, you're just there because your son,
who is no longer has a right to be there,

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invited you in.

Speaker 10 (12:57):
And now well he.

Speaker 9 (12:58):
Broke the leaf one so.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
We broke the lease, so therefore there's an eviction. You
don't have a right to stay there. But all of
a sudden, let's say you have half the money, so
you want the landlord to accept half the rent to
stay there.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
You can't do that. I understand that.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
You know what, I would sue your son, just to
throw him into court and talk about and I've talked
about this earlier, detrimental reliance. I moved in, relied on
that gave up my place. That there's a lot of
arguments you can make saying that had he not invited
me in, I would not have done everything I did.

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So I relied on him, and therefore, therefore I want
a pile of money, and you can ask for twelve thousand.

Speaker 9 (13:47):
Yeah, that's what I silt myself.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, of course, small claims court. That's your argument. Yeah,
God bless me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
By the way, I have no idea if I'm right
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This is Handle on the Law.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six Fortyfi.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Handle here on a Saturday morning, right up until eleven o'clock.
Rich Dumurrow comes up with the Tech Show eleven to two,
and then Footy Friday, or excuse me, not Footy Friday.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's the Fork Report.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Neil is with me ready through Friday, and then Foody
Friday is Friday, and then.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Today it's his shoe back We go.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
More Handle on the Law Marginal legal advice.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Hi Jason, Europe, Hey Bill.

Speaker 11 (16:14):
In April of twenty twenty three, I was filming a
traffic stop at a parking lot of a shopping center,
and I was keeping pretty good distance, but the officer
came up to me and told me to stay back anyway,
and I told him I was going to stand right
where I was, and then he pushed me with his

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hand in my chest. Another precinct. I was filming a
traffic stop on a public sidewalk with what I seen
was a reasonable distance and the police come up to
me and arrested me for what me to jail for what?

(16:58):
I think there's a failure to identify.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
I can look at the charges for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
You have to the charges failure to identify. Yeah, that's
a tough one for them. They don't have right just
to go up to someone and say give me your ID,
especially when you're doing something perfectly legal in a public place,
for example filming videoing something. And then the issue is
when you talk about a reasonable distance, what does that mean?

Speaker 11 (17:27):
Well, they were they pulled over on the street.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
No, No, I'm talking about a reasonable distance from you to
the scene that you were videoing. How far away were you?

Speaker 11 (17:37):
I would say twenty feet?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Twenty feet.

Speaker 11 (17:43):
Yeah, like they were on the other side of the
car in the street.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, No, I get it. It really depends on the
charges either way.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
If you know, for example, they're going to argue interference
with a police officer if you're twenty feet away, that's
kind of on their side. You know, that doesn't make
any said stop saying stop filming, stop videoing.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
They can't do that. They don't have a right to
do that. You have every right to video and pushing
you certainly, and when you.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Say I'm standing my ground, you're allowed to say that.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Jason, I just want to know what they arrested you for.

Speaker 11 (18:17):
I'm having trouble trying to find an attorney.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
For this because I believe I have a lawsuit, but.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Well you might.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
But you know, the point is, I mean, what are
your damages at this point, you're looking for money damages.
They arrested you, and I assume they didn't charge you
or did they charge you?

Speaker 7 (18:35):
Yeah, it was weld on, I got it right here? Um,
all right right here?

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Who oh great, you're helping a lot, you know, not
having that. Yeah, there are people that are going crazy
out there saying, come on, come on, Jayson, come on.

Speaker 7 (18:57):
Okay, that's right here, right here, I got here? Uh
charges charges.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Charges what you were arrested for? Violation of what?

Speaker 8 (19:07):
Failure to comply with order or signal?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Got it? Okay? Fair enough?

Speaker 2 (19:11):
And you might have a lawsuit, uh for false arrest,
uh for maybe assault, But it's gonna be hard, uh
finding a lawyer because you know what, where does a
lawyer make any money?

Speaker 3 (19:23):
And how you know?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I mean you've you've got an issue, assuming that you
say what you say and you have the video, Yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Just have to keep on looking for a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'd go to a civil any civil rights organization and
see if they can pick it up. Because in these days,
in a this day and age, yeah, I mean, people
are very sensitive to a cop saying stop that videoing.
I can't do it. I'm allowed to, I'm allowed to video.
Let me see your ID for what I'm just videoing.
So yeah, there's something there. The problem is, uh, it's

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not easy in terms of.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Getting a lawyer. Uh, let me look, let me look,
all right, Bruce. I'm trying to find out which ones
are reasonably interesting. Hello Bruce, welcome, Oh hello Hall.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
Yeah, yeah, calling.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
In reference to a dispute I have with my roommate.
She stopped contributing anything towards the rent utilities.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay she is, Okay, she on the lease perchance both
of us, oh both of you? Okay, Well, you got
a couple of choices. If both of you are on
the lease and the agreement was that you split it
fifty to fifty, Now you can't evict her.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
She's on the lease.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's a civil suit against her for fifty percent of
the money, because that was the agreement.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
You're both on the lease.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
She's going to say, no, you know, you agree to
pay all of it typically and you're going to go, no,
we're both on the lease, and here is your payment record.
So that proves pretty much you split it. Problem is
is it's your lawsuit against her. Landlord wants the money
and the landlord. Yeah, the landlord can.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Fix both of you if the full rent isn't paid.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Me taking her to do a small claim court, would
I be able to get an eviction? No?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
No, no, and incidentally taking her to small claims court,
all you're going to get is are those months in
which she didn't pay.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Half of the rent.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
So you get to go next this month, and then
next month, and then the month after that, and you
get to pay the fees, uh, the service fees, process
of service in other words, when she gets served, and
the filing fee, and it'll cost you one hundred dollars
every single time. Now you'll get judgment against her, I believe,

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and so she'll be sitting on judgments over and over again.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, probably are worthless judgment.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's tough yeah, but I don't.
I don't think you have the right to a victor.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Should I notify the landlord?

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, I call the landlord and say, what are you
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
And just offer to leave is what I would do,
and find someplace else because you owe the rent.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
You owe the rent, and.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Then sue her for half of everything, or sue for
moving expenses.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
You know, that's a tough one to go to.

Speaker 7 (22:45):
You.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I mean, when you have land, when you have.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Roommates that are fifty to fifty and you're both on
the lease, you know you have You'll see in the
lease something called the severability clause. And now it wouldn't
be a severability clause. It would be a clause that says,
if one owes money, all owe money. In other words,

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any breach, both of you owe the money, but you
can go after her. He can go after anybody he wants,
and if you have the money.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Actually, I think it is a severability clause.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
My mind is right now floating off someplace having one
of those mind Joe Biden moments. It's you got to
cut a deal with the landlord if you can.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
But man, you're stuck, you know, unfortunately you are stuck. Yeah,
that's no fun.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Choose your roommates carefully. And by the way, he may
very well have chosen his roommate carefully. This goes on,
you know, let's say two years down the road and
everything's copeasetic and then all of a sudden, look what happens.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
This is Handle on the Law, say a fine handle here.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Ah, yes, an hour after this, we're close to the
end of this hour, but of course I keep going
another hour, so we've got plenty of time.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
And the phone number eight hundred and five two zero
one five three four, welcome back. Handle on the Law.
Marginal legal Advice. Kathy, Hello Kathy.

Speaker 12 (24:21):
Hello Bill. Yeah, I have a trust and I'm a
trustee that we have some property that we did not
put in that trust. The property has three names on
it has mine, my husband's, and my sons. So I
need wanted to know do I need to put that
property in the trust to keep it for out of
probate or what I need to do?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Well at this point, well, at this point all three
of you would have to sign to put that property
into the trust. You all have to agree that it
goes into the trust.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Well, is the tat over well, hold them in the
trust door.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
The person who wrote the trust is that person dead? No, No,
that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Uh are are you the trust store? Whose property was it?

Speaker 12 (25:10):
I'm the trust store and the property is mine and
my husbands and my sons.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Okay, so uh so everybody is still alive.

Speaker 12 (25:20):
Yes, just put them.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, all three of you can put the property back
into the trust.

Speaker 12 (25:23):
Of course, you'd have to do like a deed, or
it could just yeah.

Speaker 9 (25:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
What you do is a quit claim deed. Everybody thinks
it's a quick claim deed.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
It's not. It's a quit as in I quit my job.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
It's a quick claim deed that you simply transfer the
three of you transfer your ownership from the three of
you into the trust.

Speaker 12 (25:45):
It's easy, okay, and you know it.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
You don't need a lawyer or anything. You do it
on the internet. But all three of you have to agree. Okay,
then it gets really easy. Uh Sean, Hello, Sean, welcome.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Are you doing Bill?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah, go ahead and hear me. Yeah, I can hear you.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
Rental tenant, the agreement, you know what that is? Rental
tenant approval. I didn't know what it was that I
moved in here about two three years.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I'm a little confused a rental tenant agreement. I know
what a rental agreement is, and I know what a
tented what a tenant is. So explain to me where
your confusion is and my confusion and what you're talking about.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
This this had to do is a monthly from a voucher,
which has to do a Section eight type of time.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Okay, got it? Okay, Section eight housing? All right, fair enough,
So what's your question?

Speaker 6 (26:40):
American Family Housing got me into the place on Beach
Boulevard at Tahiti Hotel and everything was free there. Now
I was they moved me over here, and I asked
the girl, Michelle, I said, can I retro fit this
once I move in? Because a lot of times they
talk in terms of if you don't have it when
you get in, you can't get it. But that's not true,
and they don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
There's a lot of kids.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Okay, I'm a little confused. What what then is your question?

Speaker 6 (27:05):
Well, I didn't get it granted to me, and they
blamed me, but I didn't even know. And all the
time that I talked to her and I changed.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Okay, how do they move you. How do they move you?
We're force you to move?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Do they say either you move or we're not going
to give We're not going to subsidize under section eight.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
Yeah, it was the voucher. They always refer to it.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
But no, I understand do.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
They did they say they're not going to give you
the voucher unless you move.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
No, No, that was more the opposite that. But it's
not totally right, Like I'm trying to curve right here.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, I know what I gotta tell you.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
This is above.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
No, it's already too complicated, you know, just to use
Section eight housing.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
No, I don't know enough.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
About it, and it sounded too confusing anyway.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I'm just not smart enough to figure that out.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Uh. Oh, I don't have a phone number. There a
line too. The ceiling taken out of the house. Story
it was really good, So Matt, I don't know who
that is, but whoever it is?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Hell, Hi, Hi, what's your name?

Speaker 10 (28:07):
Hi? My name is Jeannie.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
Hi Jennie.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I didn't know who you were a computer glitch? So
what can I do for you?

Speaker 6 (28:12):
Genie?

Speaker 10 (28:13):
I have a nineteen seventy house. It's been two years.
I had popcorn ceiling so I had that company come
in and take all the ceilings out. We rented a
little place for a week, or when it was like
five days. I came home. We had my husband was

(28:33):
here part of the time watching and then I was
here just one day. So anyhow, I saw the guy
throwing the wastewater with the pod.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Okay, hang on a minute. Popcorn ceiling is sort of
also known as a cottage cheese ceiling where they spray
it and it's irregular and it hides virtually everything, and
it used to be very big decades ago. So there's
you scrape off that ceiling, you know, to go down
to the dry wall.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
What waste water.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
Well, they sprayed water down the wall. I guess. I
don't know, because I came. I was here and I
saw him throw it in my garden.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (29:17):
I did tell them that not to do that, and
I gave him a trash can to put it in the.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
Well.

Speaker 10 (29:26):
I you know, when when it rains, it turns really
hard and I've been digging out.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Okay, I'm a little confused. They put it in the
trash can and it rained, correct.

Speaker 10 (29:38):
Okay, no, wait a minute, they put the stuff, they
put the plaster in the trash can, and I asked
him to with the water. Okay, okay, they did it
one time. Okay, but then as I was gardening, it's
all over the place.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Okay, so it went so they threw it in your yard? Okay,
got it? That's is that what happened?

Speaker 10 (30:00):
Yeah, but I don't know if there's really anything I
can I call the guy?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Let me let me okay, let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Did you remove it from the garden? Did you take
that dirt out? Did you use a sieve?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Is it still there?

Speaker 10 (30:18):
My husband helped and there were several trash cans. I
still have a lot of it in one area, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
But anyhow, yeah, yeah, all right, So what's your question?

Speaker 10 (30:30):
Well, I didn't know if I could go to small
claims court.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Yeah, but what are you.

Speaker 12 (30:34):
Going to ask for?

Speaker 3 (30:35):
I know, I get it, But what are you going
to ask for?

Speaker 10 (30:38):
Probably the money back that we paid to have the
ceilings done.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, that's probably not going to work because you got
the ceilings done. Okay, Your damages are not what you
got the ceiling done. What did it cost you to
get the ceilings done?

Speaker 10 (30:51):
About five thousand dollars?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Okay, As opposed to just cleaning the stuff up and
getting rid of it, which is not going to cost
five thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Probably, and you did it yourself. That's the problem.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
You didn't bring in a company and just pay them,
because I understand no one would.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
So it's you know, you can sue.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
For hourly for your work, you know, twenty bucks an
hour and just say here's how much we worked.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Okay, and I want to get paid hourly.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
For that in any hassle. But yeah, I would take
them a small claims court for that.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I would.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
But you can't say I want all my money back
and therefore it costs me one thousand dollars worth of
work to clean it up. I want an extra four grand.
I want a free ceiling. Doesn't work that way. Now,
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(31:51):
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