April 20, 2025 • 27 mins
Everyone Wants to Go to Heaven, But No One Wants to Take the Trip
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand. Hey Charlie,
welcome to the Jesus Christia.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
My pleasure. How can I help you?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Uh, there's an old saying that everybody wants to go
to heaven, but nobody wants to make the trip. Oh, yes,
I'm curious about what's the trip's and does everybody make
that trip?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I know it does sound like it's about some sort
of transportation or mode of transportation, and it sort of is.
It also is recorded as being said everyone wants to
go to heaven, nobody wants to die. So if you
put ef that's true true, Well, so imagine it this way.
(00:53):
Imagine it this way. Basically, you have to die to
go to heaven. Right, that's yes, you know, that's basically
the exchange as you are here. So what it's saying
is everybody wants to go to heaven, no one wants
to take the trip.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Is no.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The ticket is death, and that the thing that fears,
that brings fear to people most about death is the
pain of death. The pain in the process of dying
is is the trip. So people are afraid of the
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process of death, but they want to be in heaven.
There's also the other, maybe even more profound meaning, and
that is that the trip is the process of being sanctified.
It's the process of learning about God, understanding God, being
(01:56):
clothed in the grace of God and the soul of God.
Going through the process of becoming a better person each day,
trying focusing, loving God and learning the will of God.
And in that and in that place, absolutely, that is
(02:18):
the trip. That is the payment, if you will. I mean,
you don't get to heaven by what you do. However,
there is a process in your growth. There is a
process of understanding, a process of learning, because now you know,
you're accountable for what you know. And once you come
(02:39):
to the point and of understanding that salvation comes from
the blood on the cross and the resurrection, this is
the very day that you celebrate, the very thing that
you celebrate today. That upon that knowledge, you know, the
process begins. That's the trip that makes sense, Charlie.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It is thank you for the answer. Yes, it helps
a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So I ask you, Charlie, are you on the trip
right now? Are you learning?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
We're getting closer? W'ere eight to you under yourself?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, I don't mean that part. I mean, I mean
the part. I mean the part. I'm not talking about
cramming for a test, Charlie. I'm talking about learning and
growing in God on the daily.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Well, I pray to God every night, and.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You, well, it sounds to me like you are.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
On I use the Lord's Prayer to start it out with.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's a good standard. It breaks down a lot of
people don't understand this, but it is. It says to
pray this way, to pray this exact prayer necessarily, but
to pray this way and kind of breaks down the
structure of a prayer of sanctifying God and seeing God
(04:11):
as the ultimate over everything, and then asking for the
simple things daily bread, peace, the strength to forgive. It's
a very powerful prayer. I say you're on a good path, Charlie,
and I pray you a blessed Easter and that you
(04:34):
go in peace. All right, let's talk to Philip. Philip,
welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Hi there, Thank you, thank you for being with us
to stay.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh well, happy Easter. How can I.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, I've just always been curious about us, our final body,
our spiritual, perfect body that I remember being reference to
in the scriptures, and I wondered about not necessarily you
know what it would look like, but do we have
a shape, do we look like ourselves? Do we do
(05:19):
we have a body, an actual body to be going
along with that, or we just do we just have
the knowledge that we need at that point to to
understand what we need to understand at that point.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, there is a body. It talks about the glorified body,
and there are some interesting things about it. The glorified
body that has walked the earth was mine after the resurrection,
and if you remember, I wasn't always recognized. Imagine that, right,
Those that spent time with me still didn't necessarily recognize
(05:55):
me in the resurrected form. Now there are some people say,
some theologians say, well, they were in deep grief and
we're still processing, and would not have naturally put that
in the situation, even though they were told there's all
kinds of things. But scripture makes different references as to
(06:18):
what that physical body is. Now. Keep in mind it
is different because even as I spoke earlier, when we
were going through scripture, it says it was now about
the sixth hour, and darkness came over the entire land
until the ninth hour, because the sun stopped shining and
(06:41):
the veil of the temple was torn in two, and Jesus,
crying out with a loud voice, said, Father, into your hands,
I entrust my spirit, and then having said that, he died.
So it's interesting that at that point I'm entrusting my
(07:03):
spirit as to what's going on, not my body but
my spirit. Now there are some people that believe the
bodies are different to the sense where they're not even
they don't even have a gender specified, and they get this.
One of the proof texts they use is Matthew twenty
(07:24):
two thirty. It says four in the Resurrection, they neither
marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels
in heaven. Now angels are believed to be sexless, and
that that's where that term neither marry or given in marriage.
Now they appear in human form as male or female,
(07:48):
mostly male in scripture. But also some will say that
Galatians three twenty eight says there is neither Jew nor Greek,
there is neither slave nor free, There is neither male
nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.
(08:09):
And so I think that those particular versus are really
talking about what is important or what is seen as
position or identifiers. People like to identify themselves.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Identity politics is very big right now. I'm a this,
or I'm a that or and God saying that all
those things that you find to be most important on
earth are not important in heaven, and that the key
is that Christ is the bride of the church or
(08:51):
the groom, and that the Church is the bride, and
that all will be married to God in heaven. So
the things that are seen as important on earth are
not important in heaven. Things that may define somebody on
(09:12):
earth and may are not.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
So.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
There are many verses that talk about the different states
of eternity. It says in Revelation twenty two to three
that there shall be no more curse in heaven, the
curse of sin it's speaking about. But gender is not
a part of the curse. God created humanity and said
(09:45):
that it was good, created the sexes and the genders
and said that it was good. And so that those
are not part of the fallen state. There's no reason
to believe that they wouldn't be there in heaven. Let's
(10:07):
talk to Dean Dean, Welcome to the Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I'm happy Easter. Thank you for taking my.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Call, my pleasure. How can I help you today?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
You know, I just.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I think a lot about the Word of God and
what I do in my life and if I'm doing
enough to make it to heaven. I just I'm a
good person. I know people say that they're good people.
That's not enough to make it to heaven. I believe
in Lord. I pray I have a relationship with Him.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
But I don't.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
I'm not a sinless person. I have my faults and.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I want to know how to do better to make
sure I make it to heaven. And I've heard people
speak about fearing the Lord. I want to love the Lord.
I want to be scared of them. I want to
thank him for life and everything He's given us. And
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other Christians I've talked to has said, you know, you
need to fear God, be God fearing. I was just wondering,
as you can make it simple for me to understand.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, I will start with a person who doesn't love God,
doesn't think about whether they're doing right by God. So
the fact that you question it shows where your heart is.
You care about God. And it's not about fearing in
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a sense what you may think. I mean the a
proper reverence or understanding. You know, there's people that love
the ocean. There are people that captain ships that have
devoted their entire life to the ocean. But they have
a deep fear and respect of the power of that ocean.
(12:13):
That makes sense, and so putting your mind just putting
it in that mindset is a better understanding. But there
you're not going to earn. You're not gonna earn heaven.
That's not how it works, Dean. You're not gonna You're
not gonna do something and God goes up. That's it.
(12:33):
You're in or you're out. For that matter. There is
nothing you could do that is more powerful than the
blood on the cross. And there's nothing that you could
do except reject God and the gift that was done
on that cross that will keep you from it. The
key is that you bring God into your life. Every
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day you focus on God and seeking God's wisdom and
God's will. Every day you build a prayer life so
you can connect with God. And in those things you
continue to build a relationship like you would anywhere else.
I mean, you don't build a relationship Dean with somebody
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by not seeing them, by not talking with them, by
not being with them, by not sinking their counsel or
any of these things. And it's the same with God.
And if you focus on those things, then you're exactly
where you should be. Let's talk to John. John, Welcome
(13:44):
to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Thank you, what if Bess for shows? Thanks for doing
such a spiritual enlightening show.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, thanks for understanding what we're doing here. How can
I help you today?
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Well for the last I'm seventy six years old today. Oh,
I've seen a lot and experienced a lot. I've been
raised in the church, had a beautiful church family with
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my kids married, and now my wife in heaven and
my kids are not close, so i still connect with
my church family, but it was so important at the
time to have such a safe environment for my children
and for everyone that was part of the church family.
(14:43):
I know religions can be confusing, but the church itself
is so blessed to be part of that. That's what
I've witnessed in that stage of my life. I've been
kind of a street listener to people's life. I do
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my missionary work amongst mostly homeless, almost completely homeless, and veterans,
and I've yet to hear pretty much of any kind
of a pleasant childhood. So I'm seeing that children are
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traumatized often in childhood and how it plays out unless
they're helped. And I've seen the only real help is
through our Creator, not through the drugs, not through anything
in the long run, except making that connection with God,
our Creator. I've seen how it works, and it's kind
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of a tough mission for me because a lot of
most of the people I talk with our disillusions or
hate God. I couldn't show up with a Bible, I
couldn't show up I couldn't talk leading with God. First,
I have to just say, we all know in our
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heart there's God. We all know there's a creator, but
when we've been traumatized and affected by the devil in
some way, and trauma is kind of like that because
the devil's got a hand and people not getting better,
and so I pretty much focus on how to deal
with the dark side because people want to get better
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and they don't know or understand how God works, or
they've been so negative that they don't believe it. So
I would just like your take on Actually, I'm just
mostly blessed to share that because the military is a
good example. I talked to a lot of veterans that
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they need to be help propully after they've been made
a you know, made a soldier, what they go through.
I've been watching documentaries lately on Vietnam and and and
and and the Nazi regime and how it took to
overcome that satanic how strong it can be, and what
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it takes. I focus on Psalm twenty six to ten
that says be still. I think it's the first commandment
because when we learn to be still, we're training our
brain to filter out that that devil. Turn down the noise,
turn down the hate channel. It's like the cartoon. You
got the devil on one shoulder, angel on the other,
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the angels always talking through God's God through got through
the angels the same volume. The devil turns up the
volume and overrides it. So it's all about turning the
volume down so so God's there. And when people turn
the volume down channel D, it's amazing what happens. So
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I teach stillness, I tee. I call it the stillness movement.
I teach meditation if you will, But it's being still.
And when people practice that, it's like an instrument. I said,
here's a trumpet. I think you're going to play it
good today. No, they all know who Louis Armstrong is
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the level he took it by dedication and practice, practice
being still. What's what happens. Treat being still like a
musical instrument. Practice it daily. And you see you when
you're not being still meditating and it's not sleeping. It's
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not praying. I pray a Bible study. But when you
being your being still, it's unique. You know you're in
the you know you're in the room with you and God,
and you know the filter. You know the devil's right
outside the door. But you showed this. We can neutralize
that power. You didn't kill that power still here, but
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we can neutralize it. That's the key. Just like you
did it got tired of tempting you. You know what
was going on. If you would have hated the devil,
you would have been a hater. Love happens when you
don't hate. That's the order.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'd say, that was beautifully sad. When we come back,
I will add a few I will add a few thoughts. Unfortunately,
we're up against the clock, but that was beautifully sad.
I will add some thoughts when we return. Happy Easter
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twenty twenty five to you. I hope that you are
spending time in a thoughtful way with family, with friends,
and that you understand the power of what today is about.
Oh sure, candy and all that's fine as well, but
focusing on what the resurrection meant and means. And if
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you're in a state of rebellion, if you're frustrated by Christians,
I get that, but it's not Churchianity. It's following me,
following my words. We just heard from John who eloquently
talked about his time on the front lines speaking to
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people that are angered, frustrated with God. Talked about being still,
and he was on the money. Psalm forty six y
ten says, be still and know that I am God.
It's one of my producer Neil's favorite scriptures because the
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simplicity of it. It is to understand that you don't understand.
It's to know that you don't know. It's to be
in a state of giving everything to God, knowing that
God is in control and that you are not being
still unto itself is a meditation. Being still is pushing
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out the noise of the world, the distractions, your own
emotions that far too much control your actions, finding the
love and the reason that comes only from God, the
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love that surpasses understanding. Talked about the pain those that
are in pain, and how they don't even want to
hear about God, the anger and frustration with God. Again
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and again I have said on this program that people
that don't believe are not rejecting God on intellectual reasoning.
That's what they'd have you believe, that's what they want
you to believe, but it's not. It's for emotional reasons.
Something in them believes that something was unfair or a
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frustration with God, and so they reject based on that,
not on some intellectual reasoning. We've talked to many of
them on this very program. But I want to tell
you about a tool that the devil uses, that the
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enemy uses. That is, throughout every walk of your life,
there's a saying, if they can't control you, they will
control how others see you. Whether this is at work
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or at home, or in your relationships, even at church,
there will be people that know they can't control you.
So what they do. Is they control how others see you, gossip,
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harsh words. Some will even process, try and process the
way you think about someone and you may not notice
it at first, But if there's someone who always asks questions,
you know, the hey, what is what is with that person?
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Or it seems innocent, that's what the devil does. Devil
can't control God in any way, shape or form. Devil
can't control me. So the devil goes, where was Jesus
when you were going through that pain? Where was Jesus
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when you got that birth defect? Where was Jesus when
that crime happened to you? And those little whispers they
build up and you respect fond. Denzel Washington said that
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he's not bothered that people are not going to like
him in life. Some will, some won't. And he beautifully
said that sometimes your spirit bothers other people's demons. How
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great is that? That's all you have to do? That
your wins or the way you seek God or balance
your life out will anger others. And it's similar. People
will reject God and get angry at God because they
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feel their life isn't what it should be. And that's
just narcissism, that's not. It's not balance. That is somebody
just like the thief on the cross, one of them
that we spoke about earlier. I was just thinking about
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everything from their perspective. If you're the Christ, save yourself
and save us too. While the other one said, I'll
tell you, I know that I deserve this, but you
sure don't remember me when you take your throne. And
so what John was talking about is the pain that
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overcomes the devil cannot beat God, cannot control God. So
the devil tries to control how others see God. That's it.
And when you find those people in your life, know
that those actions come from insecurity and come from the
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pit of hell. And that is what ends up being
the bitterness that grows inside people because the devil continues
to say, where's your God now? What has your God
done for you lately? When you see ugly things, whether
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it be war, whether it be crime, whether it be death,
the enemy jumps in, the author of those very things says,
where's your God now? And how come God isn't helping you?
Kfi Am sixty on demand
You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand. Hey Charlie,
welcome to the Jesus Christia.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
My pleasure. How can I help you?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Uh, there's an old saying that everybody wants to go
to heaven, but nobody wants to make the trip. Oh, yes,
I'm curious about what's the trip's and does everybody make
that trip?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I know it does sound like it's about some sort
of transportation or mode of transportation, and it sort of is.
It also is recorded as being said everyone wants to
go to heaven, nobody wants to die. So if you
put ef that's true true, Well, so imagine it this way.
(00:53):
Imagine it this way. Basically, you have to die to
go to heaven. Right, that's yes, you know, that's basically
the exchange as you are here. So what it's saying
is everybody wants to go to heaven, no one wants
to take the trip.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Is no.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The ticket is death, and that the thing that fears,
that brings fear to people most about death is the
pain of death. The pain in the process of dying
is is the trip. So people are afraid of the
(01:31):
process of death, but they want to be in heaven.
There's also the other, maybe even more profound meaning, and
that is that the trip is the process of being sanctified.
It's the process of learning about God, understanding God, being
(01:56):
clothed in the grace of God and the soul of God.
Going through the process of becoming a better person each day,
trying focusing, loving God and learning the will of God.
And in that and in that place, absolutely, that is
(02:18):
the trip. That is the payment, if you will. I mean,
you don't get to heaven by what you do. However,
there is a process in your growth. There is a
process of understanding, a process of learning, because now you know,
you're accountable for what you know. And once you come
(02:39):
to the point and of understanding that salvation comes from
the blood on the cross and the resurrection, this is
the very day that you celebrate, the very thing that
you celebrate today. That upon that knowledge, you know, the
process begins. That's the trip that makes sense, Charlie.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It is thank you for the answer. Yes, it helps
a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So I ask you, Charlie, are you on the trip
right now? Are you learning?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
We're getting closer? W'ere eight to you under yourself?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Well, I don't mean that part. I mean, I mean
the part. I mean the part. I'm not talking about
cramming for a test, Charlie. I'm talking about learning and
growing in God on the daily.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Well, I pray to God every night, and.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
You, well, it sounds to me like you are.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
On I use the Lord's Prayer to start it out with.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's a good standard. It breaks down a lot of
people don't understand this, but it is. It says to
pray this way, to pray this exact prayer necessarily, but
to pray this way and kind of breaks down the
structure of a prayer of sanctifying God and seeing God
(04:11):
as the ultimate over everything, and then asking for the
simple things daily bread, peace, the strength to forgive. It's
a very powerful prayer. I say you're on a good path, Charlie,
and I pray you a blessed Easter and that you
(04:34):
go in peace. All right, let's talk to Philip. Philip,
welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Hi there, Thank you, thank you for being with us
to stay.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Oh well, happy Easter. How can I.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, I've just always been curious about us, our final body,
our spiritual, perfect body that I remember being reference to
in the scriptures, and I wondered about not necessarily you
know what it would look like, but do we have
a shape, do we look like ourselves? Do we do
(05:19):
we have a body, an actual body to be going
along with that, or we just do we just have
the knowledge that we need at that point to to
understand what we need to understand at that point.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, there is a body. It talks about the glorified body,
and there are some interesting things about it. The glorified
body that has walked the earth was mine after the resurrection,
and if you remember, I wasn't always recognized. Imagine that, right,
Those that spent time with me still didn't necessarily recognize
(05:55):
me in the resurrected form. Now there are some people say,
some theologians say, well, they were in deep grief and
we're still processing, and would not have naturally put that
in the situation, even though they were told there's all
kinds of things. But scripture makes different references as to
(06:18):
what that physical body is. Now. Keep in mind it
is different because even as I spoke earlier, when we
were going through scripture, it says it was now about
the sixth hour, and darkness came over the entire land
until the ninth hour, because the sun stopped shining and
(06:41):
the veil of the temple was torn in two, and Jesus,
crying out with a loud voice, said, Father, into your hands,
I entrust my spirit, and then having said that, he died.
So it's interesting that at that point I'm entrusting my
(07:03):
spirit as to what's going on, not my body but
my spirit. Now there are some people that believe the
bodies are different to the sense where they're not even
they don't even have a gender specified, and they get this.
One of the proof texts they use is Matthew twenty
(07:24):
two thirty. It says four in the Resurrection, they neither
marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels
in heaven. Now angels are believed to be sexless, and
that that's where that term neither marry or given in marriage.
Now they appear in human form as male or female,
(07:48):
mostly male in scripture. But also some will say that
Galatians three twenty eight says there is neither Jew nor Greek,
there is neither slave nor free, There is neither male
nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.
(08:09):
And so I think that those particular versus are really
talking about what is important or what is seen as
position or identifiers. People like to identify themselves.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Identity politics is very big right now. I'm a this,
or I'm a that or and God saying that all
those things that you find to be most important on
earth are not important in heaven, and that the key
is that Christ is the bride of the church or
(08:51):
the groom, and that the Church is the bride, and
that all will be married to God in heaven. So
the things that are seen as important on earth are
not important in heaven. Things that may define somebody on
(09:12):
earth and may are not.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
So.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
There are many verses that talk about the different states
of eternity. It says in Revelation twenty two to three
that there shall be no more curse in heaven, the
curse of sin it's speaking about. But gender is not
a part of the curse. God created humanity and said
(09:45):
that it was good, created the sexes and the genders
and said that it was good. And so that those
are not part of the fallen state. There's no reason
to believe that they wouldn't be there in heaven. Let's
(10:07):
talk to Dean Dean, Welcome to the Jesus Christ.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I'm happy Easter. Thank you for taking my.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Call, my pleasure. How can I help you today?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
You know, I just.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
I think a lot about the Word of God and
what I do in my life and if I'm doing
enough to make it to heaven. I just I'm a
good person. I know people say that they're good people.
That's not enough to make it to heaven. I believe
in Lord. I pray I have a relationship with Him.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
But I don't.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
I'm not a sinless person. I have my faults and.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I want to know how to do better to make
sure I make it to heaven. And I've heard people
speak about fearing the Lord. I want to love the Lord.
I want to be scared of them. I want to
thank him for life and everything He's given us. And
(11:11):
other Christians I've talked to has said, you know, you
need to fear God, be God fearing. I was just wondering,
as you can make it simple for me to understand.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, I will start with a person who doesn't love God,
doesn't think about whether they're doing right by God. So
the fact that you question it shows where your heart is.
You care about God. And it's not about fearing in
(11:47):
a sense what you may think. I mean the a
proper reverence or understanding. You know, there's people that love
the ocean. There are people that captain ships that have
devoted their entire life to the ocean. But they have
a deep fear and respect of the power of that ocean.
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That makes sense, and so putting your mind just putting
it in that mindset is a better understanding. But there
you're not going to earn. You're not gonna earn heaven.
That's not how it works, Dean. You're not gonna You're
not gonna do something and God goes up. That's it.
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You're in or you're out. For that matter. There is
nothing you could do that is more powerful than the
blood on the cross. And there's nothing that you could
do except reject God and the gift that was done
on that cross that will keep you from it. The
key is that you bring God into your life. Every
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day you focus on God and seeking God's wisdom and
God's will. Every day you build a prayer life so
you can connect with God. And in those things you
continue to build a relationship like you would anywhere else.
I mean, you don't build a relationship Dean with somebody
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by not seeing them, by not talking with them, by
not being with them, by not sinking their counsel or
any of these things. And it's the same with God.
And if you focus on those things, then you're exactly
where you should be. Let's talk to John. John, Welcome
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to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Thank you, what if Bess for shows? Thanks for doing
such a spiritual enlightening show.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, thanks for understanding what we're doing here. How can
I help you today?
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Well for the last I'm seventy six years old today. Oh,
I've seen a lot and experienced a lot. I've been
raised in the church, had a beautiful church family with
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my kids married, and now my wife in heaven and
my kids are not close, so i still connect with
my church family, but it was so important at the
time to have such a safe environment for my children
and for everyone that was part of the church family.
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I know religions can be confusing, but the church itself
is so blessed to be part of that. That's what
I've witnessed in that stage of my life. I've been
kind of a street listener to people's life. I do
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my missionary work amongst mostly homeless, almost completely homeless, and veterans,
and I've yet to hear pretty much of any kind
of a pleasant childhood. So I'm seeing that children are
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traumatized often in childhood and how it plays out unless
they're helped. And I've seen the only real help is
through our Creator, not through the drugs, not through anything
in the long run, except making that connection with God,
our Creator. I've seen how it works, and it's kind
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of a tough mission for me because a lot of
most of the people I talk with our disillusions or
hate God. I couldn't show up with a Bible, I
couldn't show up I couldn't talk leading with God. First,
I have to just say, we all know in our
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heart there's God. We all know there's a creator, but
when we've been traumatized and affected by the devil in
some way, and trauma is kind of like that because
the devil's got a hand and people not getting better,
and so I pretty much focus on how to deal
with the dark side because people want to get better
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and they don't know or understand how God works, or
they've been so negative that they don't believe it. So
I would just like your take on Actually, I'm just
mostly blessed to share that because the military is a
good example. I talked to a lot of veterans that
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they need to be help propully after they've been made
a you know, made a soldier, what they go through.
I've been watching documentaries lately on Vietnam and and and
and and the Nazi regime and how it took to
overcome that satanic how strong it can be, and what
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it takes. I focus on Psalm twenty six to ten
that says be still. I think it's the first commandment
because when we learn to be still, we're training our
brain to filter out that that devil. Turn down the noise,
turn down the hate channel. It's like the cartoon. You
got the devil on one shoulder, angel on the other,
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the angels always talking through God's God through got through
the angels the same volume. The devil turns up the
volume and overrides it. So it's all about turning the
volume down so so God's there. And when people turn
the volume down channel D, it's amazing what happens. So
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I teach stillness, I tee. I call it the stillness movement.
I teach meditation if you will, But it's being still.
And when people practice that, it's like an instrument. I said,
here's a trumpet. I think you're going to play it
good today. No, they all know who Louis Armstrong is
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the level he took it by dedication and practice, practice
being still. What's what happens. Treat being still like a
musical instrument. Practice it daily. And you see you when
you're not being still meditating and it's not sleeping. It's
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not praying. I pray a Bible study. But when you
being your being still, it's unique. You know you're in
the you know you're in the room with you and God,
and you know the filter. You know the devil's right
outside the door. But you showed this. We can neutralize
that power. You didn't kill that power still here, but
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we can neutralize it. That's the key. Just like you
did it got tired of tempting you. You know what
was going on. If you would have hated the devil,
you would have been a hater. Love happens when you
don't hate. That's the order.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'd say, that was beautifully sad. When we come back,
I will add a few I will add a few thoughts. Unfortunately,
we're up against the clock, but that was beautifully sad.
I will add some thoughts when we return. Happy Easter
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twenty twenty five to you. I hope that you are
spending time in a thoughtful way with family, with friends,
and that you understand the power of what today is about.
Oh sure, candy and all that's fine as well, but
focusing on what the resurrection meant and means. And if
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you're in a state of rebellion, if you're frustrated by Christians,
I get that, but it's not Churchianity. It's following me,
following my words. We just heard from John who eloquently
talked about his time on the front lines speaking to
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people that are angered, frustrated with God. Talked about being still,
and he was on the money. Psalm forty six y
ten says, be still and know that I am God.
It's one of my producer Neil's favorite scriptures because the
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simplicity of it. It is to understand that you don't understand.
It's to know that you don't know. It's to be
in a state of giving everything to God, knowing that
God is in control and that you are not being
still unto itself is a meditation. Being still is pushing
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out the noise of the world, the distractions, your own
emotions that far too much control your actions, finding the
love and the reason that comes only from God, the
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love that surpasses understanding. Talked about the pain those that
are in pain, and how they don't even want to
hear about God, the anger and frustration with God. Again
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and again I have said on this program that people
that don't believe are not rejecting God on intellectual reasoning.
That's what they'd have you believe, that's what they want
you to believe, but it's not. It's for emotional reasons.
Something in them believes that something was unfair or a
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frustration with God, and so they reject based on that,
not on some intellectual reasoning. We've talked to many of
them on this very program. But I want to tell
you about a tool that the devil uses, that the
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enemy uses. That is, throughout every walk of your life,
there's a saying, if they can't control you, they will
control how others see you. Whether this is at work
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or at home, or in your relationships, even at church,
there will be people that know they can't control you.
So what they do. Is they control how others see you, gossip,
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harsh words. Some will even process, try and process the
way you think about someone and you may not notice
it at first, But if there's someone who always asks questions,
you know, the hey, what is what is with that person?
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Or it seems innocent, that's what the devil does. Devil
can't control God in any way, shape or form. Devil
can't control me. So the devil goes, where was Jesus
when you were going through that pain? Where was Jesus
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when you got that birth defect? Where was Jesus when
that crime happened to you? And those little whispers they
build up and you respect fond. Denzel Washington said that
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he's not bothered that people are not going to like
him in life. Some will, some won't. And he beautifully
said that sometimes your spirit bothers other people's demons. How
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great is that? That's all you have to do? That
your wins or the way you seek God or balance
your life out will anger others. And it's similar. People
will reject God and get angry at God because they
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feel their life isn't what it should be. And that's
just narcissism, that's not. It's not balance. That is somebody
just like the thief on the cross, one of them
that we spoke about earlier. I was just thinking about
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everything from their perspective. If you're the Christ, save yourself
and save us too. While the other one said, I'll
tell you, I know that I deserve this, but you
sure don't remember me when you take your throne. And
so what John was talking about is the pain that
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overcomes the devil cannot beat God, cannot control God. So
the devil tries to control how others see God. That's it.
And when you find those people in your life, know
that those actions come from insecurity and come from the
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pit of hell. And that is what ends up being
the bitterness that grows inside people because the devil continues
to say, where's your God now? What has your God
done for you lately? When you see ugly things, whether
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it be war, whether it be crime, whether it be death,
the enemy jumps in, the author of those very things says,
where's your God now? And how come God isn't helping you?
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