Jesus Christ Show | Hour 2 - Lost Faith [06/23]

Jesus was a rabbi, Shouldn't we be Jewish
Holding on to Mothers past sins
Son has PTSD
Lost faith 

Episode Transcript

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You're listening to KFI on demand.Romo, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Hi. I have a question foryou. It's something that's been troubling
me with my own pursuit of myChristianity, and as I think about it,
I'm hoping you can give me theright answer here or right to hear

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me in the right direction. Ithink about Christ, you know, trying
to live a christ Like life,and I think about when the Lord walked
the earth, when he took humanform and walked to earth with us,
she chose to worship his father asa Jew, and actually then beyond that,
he became a rabbi in the Jewishfaith, actually teaching Judaism to others

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as well. And I don't knowanywhere in scripture where he says, you
know, start a new faith,unto me, So I've just had a
lot of conflic lately where I'm startingto think, if I really want to
be a good Christian follow in thefootsteps of Christ, shouldn't then be a
Jew like he was when he washere. Who would know better than the
son how to worship his father.Well that's an excellent point, an excellent

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point. However, there's some thingsthat are missing when you analyze it that
way, and one is not onlymy life, but my death, which
changes things obviously as to the storyand understanding the process of what was going
on there prior to my death.The proper way was to look forward to

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the Messiah, the Maschik, anduntil the Machiak came there, then Judaism
was the process of kind of payingin to a pot by way of looking
forward. In Christianity, it's theexact opposite, where it's looking back towards

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the Messiah. The Messiah has alreadycome, So our Jewish brothers and sisters
were always looking forward to the AnointedOne. Now, the term Christ,
where you get Christianity from the wordChrist, just means the anointed one.
It's the same word as Messiah.It's just the different language. So instead

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of being in Hebrew, it's themodification of Latin and Greek and all of
these things. So it comes tobe Christ and then becomes Christian. So
what that means is that non Jewsand some Jews alike followed the Messiah that
they believed to be the Messiah,which was me So in scripture you see

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that it's two different things. Thatare very similar but going in two different
directions. So if you put moneyinto a bank account, that money's in
that bank account, right, andit's paper money and it has the value
on it. But sometimes you'll writea check. When you write a check,
it's still paper all has a mounton it, but it's not money.

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It's pointing to that money, right, it's saying, I have that
money somewhere, so I want youto take this check. Well, imagine
our Jewish brothers and sisters were writingchecks towards the Messiah. They were doing
sacrifices, they were doing things saying, the Messiah will come, but at
this time, we will cleanse andwe will do these these rituals and these

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rights in with the vision that theMessiah will one day come and cleanse and
do these things. Well, afterthe Messiah comes, and in this case,
yeshuahamashiek Jesus, the Messiah comes,dies on the cross and resurrects.
Now the shift is those that believenow shift their view and start following Christianity,

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not the early days of Judaism.So Judaism still plays the beginning part
in a Christians world. But ifyou read the Christian Bible. You start
saying that the early Church started adaptingto the Lord's Day rather than to the
Sabbath and different things like that,because the practice had shifted. It was

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no longer looking forward to the Messiah. It's not looking back to the Messiah
and the promises and the things thatwere said. If you remember, even
though I am a good Jew,and even though during the writings of Scripture
it shows me doing Jewish practices,including reading the law and the prophets and
teaching from it as you spoke aboutit also has me pushing up against that

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as well. The Sadducees and thePharisees would come in and ask me questions,
and I would push back and saythings like the Sabbath was made for
man, not man for the Sabbath. There were things, there were changes
going on through that process, althoughI was participating in them as a Jew,

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I was still growing and pushing andpointing towards the future of the belief
system was which was going to beChristianity to those that would believe. So
the Jews today are still looking towardsthe Messiah. So if you believe that
I am the anointed one, theMachiak the Christ, then you would not
be a Jew because you would belooking back towards the Messiah, not forward

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towards the Messiah. In my questto find more about this was since it's
been troubling me and talking to mypastor, and I'll you mentioned to me
that they have Masionic Jews, whichare people who follow the Jewish faith,
but they do believe that Christ isthe Messiah. Yes, those are ethnic

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Jews that believe that I was theMessiah spoken about in the what Christians referred
to as the Old Testament. Theyhave names like Messianic Jews. There's also
names that can be offensive to ourJewish brothers and sisters, like fulfilled Jews
and things like that. But reallythat the truth is that there were Jews

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that believed I was the Messiah,and they were some of the early Christians
as well as some Pagans that leftthose that were maybe Romans that left their
belief system to come to Christianity aswell. So there still are there are
Jews. That's why the concept ofJews for Jesus. People say it that
it sounds backwards or it sounds likean oxymoron. It's not. And when

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you understand that. All they believeis that I fit the bill of the
prophecies and the prophets that said thisis what the Messiah is going to be
like. They believe when they readIsaiah fifty three to five that by his
stripes you will be healed. They'retalking about the wounds that I suffered on

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the cross. So there are thosethat read through the law and the prophets
and say that points to this manYeshuah who lived two thousand years ago,
who claimed to be the Mashiak,and we believe that he was. And
there are absolutely Jews that believe that, but the majority do not. The

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majority are still looking towards the futureand the possibility of a Messiah, the
anointed one coming and there's different ideasas to what that Messiah would be,
who they would be when they arrived, And that was even in my day.
That's one of the reasons why theologiansbelieve and historians believe Judas betrayed me

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is because he wrestled with the typeof Messiah I was, and that he
thought it was going to be moreof a military type leader that was going
to come and destroy Rome. Andwhen I did not, he wrestled with
it, and it really tore himup and made him frustrated with the talk
of peace and the talk of understandingand teaching and these types of things.

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So it depends on who you're talkingto as to what they expect them Asiah
or the Anointed One to be.But there were two thousand years ago a
large group of Jews and a largegroup of Pagans like Romans and non Jews
that accepted me as the anointed Oneand followed. And that's why they followed

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the Christian the Messiah and became Christiansor Messians rather than Jews. I got
that makes you sure all out therea lot of conflict that while and I
appreciate your answer because it really ithits home. It hits home. So
no, my pleasure. It's afantastic question and one that I'm confident has

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confused others too, So by youbeing bold enough to ask it, that
allows us to give an answer thathopefully hits with others as well. And
there are more intricacies than what wehave time to get into right now during
the show. But it gives youan idea of seeing, like the analogy
of the check, that there isjust a shift of perspective. So there

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would be certain things like the leviticallaws that would not necessarily pertain to the
Christian because they were religious laws andwere specific in nature. But things like
the Ten Commandments would absolutely still pertainto the believer. That doesn't mean that
the things what Christians refer to asthe Old Testament would be obsolete by any

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stretch. As a matter of fact, they become even more important to understand
and kind of interpret. The thingsof what Christians referred to as the New
Testament just couldn't be done without it. And there are some Christians that go,
well, I don't even deal withthe Old Testament because I only focus
on the New and that that's reallynot how it went. You're absolutely right

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when you say that I read andtaught from and spoke about the Law and
the prophets and things like that.You're absolutely right, and it would be
silly to think that they were obsolete. But there are some things that changed
at that point of my death onthe cross and the resurrection, and that
has to be shuffled into the mix. Otherwise you don't see the whole picture.

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It becomes a very very partial imageof the reality of what took place.
Judy, Welcome to the Jesus ChristShow. Did you say, Judy?
I sure did. How can Ihelp you? Thank you for taking
my call and you're squeezing me in, so I'll try to get right down

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to it. Please. I'm askingfor advice and help with forgiveness. I'm
having a horrible time. I havemother wounds that are really quite deep.
I'm sixty two years old and havekids and grandkids and she's then gone.
My mother had passed several years ago. But I can't seem to forgive her.

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And I know that I need to. Why aile holding on to it?
Why? Yeah? Because it justI'm hurt so deeply. I'm so
angry. I'm angry, and I'mhurt because she didn't I know, she
didn't have a mental illness, shedidn't have a drugg or alcohol problem.

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She was just I think she wasevil. I really think she was evil
possible, and I can't. Ihave my own little children and grandchildren,
and I think, how could someonebe so mean in her a child?
And I've missed having a mother eventhough and she's dead and you're a mother

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and you're a good mom. Iknew what it's done. You broke the
cycle. That's what's important, ofcourse, But Judy, there's it's for
no purpose. All the pain thatshe caused you is on her. All
the pain you cause yourself now ison you. It's no longer about her,

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It's about you. Holding on toit, that kind of that kind
of unforgiveness. It's been said thathaving that kind of unforgiveness is like you
taking poison hoping the other person's goingto die. You sit there, consuming
all this ugliness and poison for whatshe's gone. It's done. You broke

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the cycle. You're a loving mom. I'm sorry that you went through what
you went through. I thank Godthat you're smart enough to shed the scales
of that and make new decisions withyour family and who you're going to be.
You got a batter or if Iwonder if you know being raised being

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a victim, and maybe I'm holdingonto that victim mentality and I don't know
how to let go of that.Maybe I think you just answered it,
but I don't. But I don't. I know before I leave this world,
I need to make I need toforgive her, and I can't go
to the our father. You knowyou don't have to. You don't have
to reconcile. You don't reconcile withher because one she's dead and you don't

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want her in your life anyways.The forgiveness is for you, it's not
for her. It's for you tobury it. And I would, I
would physically go somewhere, write anote, do whatever, and burn it.
Make it be done. Do somephysical manifestation of your feelings on a
note. Maybe it's something she gaveyou. Whatever it is, destroy it,

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get rid of it, and letit be done, because you now
are the one that continue making yourselfa victim, not her. Lydia,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.Hi Jesus, thank you for taking my
call. Good morning, of course, my pleasure. How can I help

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you? Okay? So I'm amilitary mom. I have two sons in
the military and their father is alsoon veterans. So my youngest son,
who's twenty six, is gizophrenic andhe's been medically retired from the military.

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Physically, you see him, helooks like a normal had some twenty six
year old son, but in hishead, in his worlds and his brain,
things have been that he's in medication, he's been treatment, he's a
psychologist and a psychiatrist, but it'snot enough for him. He struggles with
life every day. So I don'tknow how to help him, how to

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make his life have some joy.He has good days and bad days,
and I don't know what to doand say I'm very strong. I am.
I am one of the strongest personsthat I know, especially a mom.
Mom is my number one job,and that's not enough. I don't
know how to make kind of putjoin his life. Well, a military

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mom, military wife, you arein the military yourself. I mean,
that's the reality. And so thereit's redundant to say that you're strong because
you are serving this country through yourselflessness as well. So that's absolutely part
of your makeup for sure, andwe thank you for your service and what

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you do by sacrificing on the homefront. You're looking at something that is
that America is wrestling with in abig way as a whole, and that
is mental health issues, whether itbe with the homeless, whether it be

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with young men and their frustration andfeeling disenfranchised, and school shootings and all
of these heavy things. And nowyou're dealing with it with mental illness in
your own family, and you're lookingat a son that on the outside looks

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perfectly average, perfectly normal, handsome, strong, all those things, yet
on the inside is battling with somechemical issues and issues in the brain,
and that makes it difficult because ofbroken arm. You go, okay,
we put it in a cast.You wait a little while, and it
gets better. So in the process, a lot of this starts to manifest

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in the younger end of men,so in their late teens, early twenties,
a lot of this starts to manifest. So you said, your son's
twenty six, Yes, how longhas he been diagnosed? A little over
two years. He did four yearsin the military Red Actor High School.

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He's been on medication treatment for alittle over two years, okay, And
so they're trying to still get thebalance right of the cocktail or whatever drugs
they're giving him to get the rightoutcome. Are We've been lucky with the
medication that they have them on abi weekly injection. It seems to be

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working as best as it can.We're scared to try anything else. We
have tried a new medication in thepast, and that was very it was
a nightmare. So doctors and Ifeel like we reached a point where this
is the best medication. He's goneright now. So yeah, Dad is

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also bipolar. His his father's bipolar. And I don't know that he kind
of blamed the gene sometimes he blamesto condemnse his situation and Dad, why
why are they dealing with such anugly thing? And I guess also mental

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conditions running the family on his setside, and he was unlucky to get
that family gene from his father.I don't know. I don't know what
else I can say and do.How does it manifest when he's having issues
in there? Is ways right nowhe feels he's not working enough. We're

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good enough for any woman he wantsto have a family. He's not working.
He cannot work when he's in crowds, even when he's in a store.
He goes with me everywhere, twentyfour hours a day, work together
most of the time. So helooks at other people and says, why
can I be like that? Thenhe punishes himself by he works out twenty

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four hours a day. He hasa gym here at home. That's all
he does. His life is aboutworking out and looking good in the outside,
but the inside is he's depressed,he's angry, he has no friends,
and he wishes he could have whathis other, what his brother has.
His brother is thirty one years old. He's in the Air Force.

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He's a lawyer in the Air Force, Susan Jarned, married with the beautiful
little girl, and he wants thatfor himself and I want that for hid.
Will he ever reach out? Hopefully? I just run out of word
encouragement. I don't know what elseI can say or do to give him

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that positive feedback about how what anice, great young man he is.
But if she says, Mom,that's you talking. You're going to tell
me everything I want to hear becauseyou're my mom, and it's not true.
When I feel like he's not onthe right path, or she's a

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little angry or just laying on thecouch, I try to encourage him,
telling them you need to do this, list to this list, of that
walk, go for a walk.But then again he's fearful that someone's going
to hurt me, someone's going tohurt him in what way. My son
did a year in Afghanistan. InAfghanistan and I feel that that one year

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he was deploted in Afghanistan really hurthim even more so. She went through
a lot of things that I'm justfinding out within the last few months.
I go to the in take sessionswith a psychiatrist, and I found out
things that he had to deal withwell in Afghanistan. And I believe because

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of what he dealt with while beingin Afghanistan, now it's out here in
the civilian world. He feels likethose people that were following him I knew
who he was in Afghanistan are probablyout here and he's afraid of for my
safety. If he sees a carpass him, buy if you see someone

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walking by our homes, someone's parkeda little too long in front of our
house, He's thinking of them,them, He calls them them. So
has has his doctors ever talked aboutwhether there's a compounded issue like you're describing
now, that maybe came from histour there in Afghanistan, that maybe he

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might be dealing with some PTSD inaddition, yes, in addition too,
yes, yes they have And Ibelieve that. And is that being looked
at separately or is that just kindof grown into the pot with everything else.
Everything's in packaged, everything's combined,everything together. He has nightmares.
Not about Afghanistan anymore, but hehas nightmares when he goes to sleep at

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nighttime or even if he leaps duringthe day. He's having these. I
forgot what he calls them, buthe says he goes into episodes where he's
asleep and the reaper comes in.He can move, and it happens two
or three times a week. Hecould be during the day. He says,

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the reaper comes in and I couldsee it, and he's staring at
me. He's afraid of death.He's afraid of cancer. A lot of
people are. Does he you saythat he is on the couch sometimes things
like that. Does he often fallasleep with the TV on? I have
you? No, he turns itoff because he says he can't sleep.

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His life is basically going to thegym. If he goes to the gym,
if not, he stays her athome. And he made a gym
one of the rooms here. Weturned it into a gym. So his
life consists of just working out dayand night, watching what he needs.
He's in a very good way.He looks very strong, he's very strong,

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but he does not get up fromthat couch. Okay, after he's
done with his workout, he takesthe couch again. Lydia, let's look
at a couple of things really quickly, because the time will go by.
And I just wanted a full picture, and I wanted you to be able
to get some of this out ofyour system as well, because you are
dealing with a lot a few things. This show is not a medical show.

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I'm not a doctor. I don'tgive any medical advice. It's all
about morality and strength and hope andthose types of things as it aligns with
faith. So but I will pointyou in a couple directions. It is
my belief that there are a fewthings going on here that need to be
looked at separately, not together.And I think you should find something through

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the VA or through veterans programs wherehe can connect with others and explore the
ETSD side separately, because that Ithink that experience is different too, because
of the fact that he's working outa lot and has a lot of energy,
but is not not diffusing that energythrough going out and doing things.

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I think that he's having an experiencewith something called sleep paralysis quite a lot.
So, yeah, So the sleepparalysis. Although it feels like a
you know, sort of a spiritualthing or something going on, in this
case he sees the Reaper, thereality is he's in a state of lucidity.
He's not yet having a deep,deep enough sleep, so he's staying

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kind of asleep and kind of awakeat the same time, which means the
body is not moving. He's wherethe body's not moving, and he's he's
experiencing that, and then he's addingthe Reaper and everything in because he's wondering
as to what it is. Sothe body is in a state of half
asleep and half awake, and it'sa really weird thing. And some people
think they're being abducted by a orall kinds of different things. But the

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reality is he's in a state oflucidity. That's why I asked about the
TV or things like that, becauseit doesn't sound like he's getting true sleep.
So I would look at those thingsseparately. As far as a mother,
your job is not to treat himlike an illness. He is not
an illness. He is he isyour son that has an illness, and

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to be honest with him. Ilove the fact that you say you call
him out when he's doing something thatI think that's helpful. I think you
probably would benefit from a program whereyou can talk to other mothers or other
parents that are dealing with these thingstoo, to learn tips and things to
explore that could be powerful and helpfulfor you. But the reality is you

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just be a mom. That's allthat You're called to be a mom and
to love him and to guide himand sometimes to push him past limits or
to make him explore things that hedoesn't feel comfortable with. That could be
by slowly bringing things to him,or whether people or connecting him with things.
I think the first thing would bea group where he can talk through
some of these things with the PTSDand that will help socialize him a little

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bit in a place where he doesn'tfeel like the odd man out. Start
there. But whatever you do,don't treat him like an illness. Treat
him like your son who happens tohave an illness. Just like a car
or anything else that is still runningand great and does everything but has a
dent. You don't treat the carlike it's you know that it's worthless.

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It's not. And I love thefact that you're still treating him in such
a great and honest way, becauseto baby him isn't going to help him.
He just won't trust you. Nedwelcome to the Jesus Christ show.
Well, I thank you, you'rewelcome. How can I help you?

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Well, I'd like to make twoquick statements and then get your feel on
how this applies to Christianity, especiallythe current day Christianity. First, I
have lost a fair bit of myfaith. Unfortunately, one church that I

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went to, I witnessed, thepriest, pastor, we wasn't Catholics,
minister, whatever you want to callthem. Actually tell someone don't come back.
You make people uneasy, okay.The other would have to deal with

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my little kids. My little girlwas just eight yesterday and back Mother's Day.
Their mother, who goes to oneof the one of the local Christian
churches, refuses to allow any contactwith my entire side of the family.

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And this has gone on for manyyears. My boy will be ten in
September and to deny family any contactMother's Day, my daughter's eighth birthday,

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and to be allowed rubber stamp.Okay, that's outside of molestation. Or
some a major issue that does notsound like mainstream Christianity. That sounds like
a separate type of church church atAspen, Colorado, that claims to be

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mainstream Christianity. Yeah, that does. That sounds like it's there's different,
different movements that speak sound similar,have structure that sounds similar, but all
in all are not within the structureof Christianity. There are times when that

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might change. There are times whenthe church may ask of a separation of
some kind because there is an issue. There are times where the church will
ask someone to leave if they're disruptingchurch for everyone else. All those things
are legitimate and have times that theywill be legitimate. But the description that
you're giving me sounds especially it's twodifferent ones, sounds a little odd.

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And I would look into that churchin Aspen because that does not sound right.
Kf I am six on demand.