January 20, 2025 • 34 mins
Chris tackles the breaking news of TikTok's shutdown in the United States, exploring the Supreme Court ruling and its implications for the app's millions of users. Shifting gears, he highlights local efforts to support pets displaced by the wildfires, with Carter Goffigan of Dog Coalition LA sharing ways the community can get involved in fostering and adoption. Later, Chris discusses the FDA’s decision to ban Red Dye No. 3, reflecting on what this means for food safety and consumer health.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. Good afternoon,
Chris Merrill.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I AM six forty more stimulating talk and listen anytime
on demand of the iHeart Radio app. I am a
little like Betty White and Bob Barker. I'm old and white.
But aside from that, I do love the animals and
I am concerned. I'm devastated when I hear stories about
people that had to leave their animals behind in a lockhouse.
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Because I've heard stories before about how animals will figure
it out, they'll find a way out. I don't know
that that's always the case. And I can't think of
a more horrible end. And I will loose sleep over it,
no joke. I'll be lying there at night. My mind's
starting to wander all over talking, you know, thinking about
all sorts of things, and all of a sudden that'll
pop into my head and I just snap awake, and
I just feel horrible. The good news is we are
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a community full of people willing to help.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
ABC seven was talking about what some are doing.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Will extend to families in need.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Excuse me, let me started the beginning.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
LA County officials say they've taken in close to four
hundred animals since the start of the fires and placed
them at various evacuation centers, most of them being larger
animals like horses and ponies. Those were evacuated to the
Pierce Equestrian Center. The Agra Hill's Animal Care Center has
taken in over one hundred smaller animals like cats, dogs, snakes,
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and tortoises.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
The response from the community has been amazing. We're incredibly grateful.
They're keeping our staff well fed, They're making sure that
we have everything we need for the animals, and the
highlight has been we have had over six hundred adoptions
and rescues since the start of the fires, which has
really eased the burden on our care centers and enabled
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our staff to focus just on taking care of displaced pets.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Officials say they will continue to accept donations, but what
they really need right now are people to adopt these
wonderful animals. Any excess donations, they say they will extend
to families in need.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Right So, who's stepping up joining me right now is
the founder of Dog Coalition, La Carter. Goffigin and Carter,
thanks so much for being on the program. I appreciate
not only you being here, but obviously everything that you do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
All right, what do you guys got going on? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I know that you guys work so hard to try
to pair up dogs and you know perspective owners are
you seeing and up taking people that are that are interested.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
We've seen an unbelievable outpouring of applicants to foster dogs
coming out of the shelter. So Dog Coalition LA is
a shelter support program. Specifically, we partner with LA Animal Services.
Most typically we work with North Central Shelter, which is
out of northeast LA. We are a totally volunteer run organization.
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We go into the shelter, we scout dogs, We get
to know their personalities, their social skills, what they're like
with people, other dogs, and then repair them with long
term fosters based on the best fit and we provide
a bunch of support and train along the way to
set them all up for success and get them adopted.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
What is your criteria that you go into these other
shelters and you find dogs that have been there for
a while that have had trouble being adopted, or you
just try to pick out the best ones.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Yeah, we primarily look so We focus specifically on forty
plus pound dogs, largely because they're the hardest taken out
of the shelter, and we look for really, we really
look for dogs that are social, social with people, social
with other animals. We run, we run playgroups in the shelter.
That allows us to get a sense of what their
play styles and social skills are like with other dogs,
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and that really, you know, gives us super critical information
to be able to safely and responsibly pair dogs with
the appropriate fosters and ultimately the appropriate adopts.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So what do you do, Carter Goffigan is joining me
right now, founder of the Dog Coalition Los Angeles. What
do you do with all the people that are putting
in applications? You go through all those applications and call
everybody right back. I mean, what is that problem? Says
look like if I'm interested, because I feel like every
dog over forty pounds is right for me and any dog,
any dog under forty pounds as a cat.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Nobody needs a cat. So what do you do? Then?
What do you do? Stole that from parks and rest
That's a.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Fair, look, that's a really fair question. I'm super glad
you asked because I will tell you in the week
following the outbruk, the initial outburk of the fire, we
saw almost two hundred applications come in. Wow, so, which
is unbelievable and like that amount of support is incredible.
The reality is there are limitations to what our team
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can provide, and not everybody's going to be the right
fit for the program, particularly because we ask a lot
of our fosters. The most important piece is a commitment
to be able to foster long term, ultimately through to adoption.
We can't guarantee how long that process is going to take,
and so you know, while it's wonderful that folks want
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to be able to chip in for a couple of
weeks here and there, that's fortunately not not something that
we can support because if a person can't keep a
dog long term, they ultimately are going back to the shelter,
and we want to avoid that at all costs.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Are there are there shelters though, that do need short
term foster Maybe not yours.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
But are there some that do need I would definitely
encourage folks to reach out to their local rescues. There
are tons of rescues across LA that may need a
short term. From my experience, most folks are looking for
longer term fosters. But you know, again totally understand that
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that is in a commitment that everybody can make. There's
also a lot of ways to volunteer, you know, whether
it's volunteering to help with adoption events or volunteering to
actually be in the shelters.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
And so while these this initial show of support is incredible,
I think the important thing to remember is that like this,
shelters and these animals in Los Angeles always need help.
So even if you can't do it now, they're still
going to need help in a few months and certainly,
you know, in a few years.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Do you feel like it's a little bit like the
blood bank, you know, when a natural disaster hits, everybody
blood sure, but then of course the natural disaster moves on,
the blood is used, and all of a sudden they're
short on supply.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Again.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You find that to be the case here where you've
got huge interest and people want to help out, and
they're good people that want to do good things, but
then all of a sudden everybody goes away absolutely.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Which is you know, it's human nature. I totally understand
that the impulse to want to raise your hand and
support in the immediate and I think we saw it
certainly at the beginning of COVID, with folks adopting animals
that really high rates, and then you know a lot
of those dogs ended up back in the shelter because
you know, their lifestyles changed, or you know, they took
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dogs and then they didn't socialize them appropriately, and then
when the world started to open up, they found that
dogs weren't equipped to handle the world, so they went
back to the shelter. And so, you know, I think
there is some of that for sure, and I you know,
as you shared in that clip a few minutes ago,
there has been incredible collaboration with rescues and the shelter
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staff and volunteers to get dogs out, and there's been
huge transportation efforts to move dogs out of the state
to partners and rescues in other states that have more
capacity and free up space at our shelters for the
anticipated intake of animals coming coming out of the fire.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Contor Gafaget is a founder of Dog Coalition LA joining
us now as we talk about pets, and I know
how difficult this is as people are. I'm thinking of
people who weren't even home when the fire broke out
and then they were told you can't go back home.
And if it were me, my dogs up there, right,
I would be freaking out at that point, and of
course you know, I know my dog would be freaking
out too. So what are some of the things as
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you've got these applications coming in? You said there's some criteria,
and what are some things? For instance, if I live
in a one bedroom studio in a congested part of town,
I'm probably not a great candidate to adopt one hundred
and fifty pound dog from you. So what are some
of the things if I don't have this, If I
don't meet this criteria, this is not going to be
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right for me. So that people aren't wasting their time
or your time on this. But then also they're going
to be looking for you know, they can go get
a snake, something that lives in an aquarium, right, they
can do that.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
What are some of those things that you run into
and you go, I'm so sorry you don't have it
doesn't really work.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Yeah, I think, really tactically for a foster from a
fostering perspective, folks need to live within twenty miles of
the shelter in the Roth East LA, So that sort
of super tactically that doesn't apply to adopters. Adopts is
a much much broader pool, you know. I think lifestyle
is a reality. Think about your activity level, Think about
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how much exercise you do or want to be doing.
Think about your space of course, you know, while you know,
of course we would love for every big dog to
have a yard and space to run around, that's not
realistic in LA. And what I always tell people is
it's a hell of a lot better than their concrete
tunnel at the shelter.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
That's true.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
So if you have the ability to take it out
on a walk a couple times a day, you know,
and even if you're in a studio apartment like that
can still work. Okay, maybe don't get a super young dog.
Maybe don't get a super athletic dog. You know, we're
seeing a lot of huskis and shepherds in the shelter
because folks don't necessarily understand what's needed for those kinds
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of dogs. So I think really taking an honest look
at your lifestyle, and then if you have other pets,
It's super important to know, you know, if you've got
other dogs, what are their social skills like with other dogs?
If you have cats. Obviously, the cat dog integration pieces
can be tricky and we do our best to support
folks and quote unquote cap test are dogs to see
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sort of which dogs we think would be appropriate. So yeah,
those are some of the criteria that we consider.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Thank you so much. Carter Goff again the founder of
Dog Coalition LA.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And you can find out more at Dog Coalition, Dog
Coalition Nea.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Is that right, Dog Coalition, Dog Coalition La La. Oh Okay,
I read it wrong. See this is what happens when
I get old.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I get old and slow like my dog in La
dot org or Dog Coalition La on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Okay, Dog Coalition La dot org. And I got somebody
to read things for me. I hate this stuff. You're good, Carter,
You're great. Thank you so much for being on the program.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Thanks, Chris, appreciate you having us.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
All right, I bless you. Take care. Uh photos.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
By the way, we still have a number of people
that have been reported missing by the La County Sheriff's
Department from both Palisades and the Eaton Fire areas. Find
out who we have on that list, and we've got
some photos, We've got some names. Kf i AM six
forty dot com slash missing, kf I AM six slash missing.
And as we find out about more people, more names,
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more photos, we'll put them up there again.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
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Hey if I AM six forty more stimulating talk, Chris Merrill.
A quick reminder, we have photos of people that had
been missing by the La County Shriffs Department from both
the Palisades and from the Eaton Fire and that is
up at kfi AM six forty dot com slash missing.
And then as we find out who else is out there,
we get more names and photos, we'll add those as
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well again. Kfi AM six forty dot com slash missing.
Really easy to do, boy, you would have thought the
sky was falling. The country just decided to stop paying
attention to the wildfires. Yesterday afternoon. We were so focused
the whole country, the attention. The big story was the wildfires,
and now whoop, we have just made it to page
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five because page one is all about TikTok.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh, my gosh, TikTok.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
They said they were gonna shut down today and then
all of a sudden, people started losing service yesterday, and
you have the pop up notice if you're unfamiliar.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
They got the pop up notice that said we're.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Shutting it down because of US policy, but thank goodness
we have incoming President Trump will work with him, which
I thought was bizarre. And now some people are coming
back online, some are getting back into the swing of
the TikTok. I guess they. I guess a Biden administration
figured something out here. I was kind of surprised that
they would go dark at all. I thought this was
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all about putting on a bit of a show. But
you know, they did, and I think that probably costs
I mean, millions of millions of dollars spread among many,
many people, and I guess I was kind of surprised
to see that happen. Joining me is Barry Marks, and
he's an attorney, legal expert in national political columnist. Very
pleasure to have you on the program. That has to
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be a bit of a surprise then that that they
did this. I didn't think they go through with it.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
I you know, initially was I thought this was kind
of them playing their hand and trying to leverage that
against the United States government and enforcement. But I think
what they're concerned about is the service providers that that
bring them to us. There's all sorts of companies behind
the scenes that we don't really know about that'll that
control the Internet and bring this stuff to us. And
I think those companies are saying, hey, it's now illegal
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for us to bring TikTok out there, and we don't
want to get in trouble with the law. So they're
saying that the Biden administration and the Justice Department need
to say something definitively that it's not illegal, or they
they're not going to enforce it somehow in writing so
that the service providers don't shut them down.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So who are the service Like are we talking like
Verizon and AT and T, and and and and Cox
and Time Warner and Spectrum and that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Who's who are the service providers?
Speaker 7 (13:59):
I don't know, they just service providers. I know there's
behind the scenes Internet companies that really bring these bring
these you know, the companies that we know the facebooks
and the twitters and everything else that come to us
on our phones. It's it's those companies you mentioned, Chris
and others that we probably don't know the name of.
They're the ones that control it, and I think they're
concerned about enforcing it against them. It will be illegal.
(14:19):
I get that, but the Biden administration said they're not
going to enforce the law. Trump has certainly indicated he's
not going to enforce it initially. He wants to try
to try to negotiate a better deal. I don't I
didn't think that this was going to really be an issue,
at least not immediately, but TikTok is making it sound
like it will be. So. I'm it's certainly going to
be very expensive for an awful lot of people who
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make their living on TikTok these days.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Barry Markson is a legal expert and a national political columnist,
an attorney. Barry, why didn't fight dance, just divest TikTok
and just move on with it? I mean they could have.
They could have raked in literally billions. They're still an
offer on the table. Kevin O'Leary, the the guy from
Shark Tank, says he'd give him twenty billion dollars right now.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Why don't they just take twenty billion dollars and be
done with this headache?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Well, yeah, you have to remember TikTok, it's not just
the United States, it's all over the world. And I
don't know how that would work. So they're going to
sell off this piece of it but maintain everything else.
Is that limit the amount of content that gets the TikTok?
You separate it and cut it out entirely. It seems
like there'd be a way to divest the portion of
the company that has the ability to download that data
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and keep that from the Chinese owners. There'd be a
way to do that. But I think I don't think
TikTok folks that Bite Dance people thought this was going
to happen. I think they thought this would stop the
Supreme Court would stop on First Amendment grounds, and now
they're faced with this eminent enforcement of the law. That's
my guess. It may eventually end up getting sold off
or at least get enough investors from the United States
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in that can control that part of it, so the
Chinese don't control that portion of the company. But as
it stands right now, they haven't done anything, not even
enough to allow for President Trump to institute part of
the law which allows him to say the company is
working towards a sale and therefore I can delay enforcement of.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Law for ninety days.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
That's in this law. But TikTok hasn't done anything to
even take a step forwards that.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
The reality is that the Republican Party is Trump's party
right now.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I don't think anybody would argue with me on that,
whether it's a Democrat or a Republican, I think they
would all acknowledge this is his party. With control of
the House, the Senate, and the White House soon to
be in the Republican's hands, meaning Trump's hands, what are
the odds that Congress gets back together and redes i mean,
completely revamps their own law in some sort of an
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emergency manner in order to remedy this problem right now?
Speaker 7 (16:44):
It's an interesting question because if you go back just
three or four years ago, President A. Trump was the
one saying we need to ban TikTok. He was leading
that call and yelling that the Democrats were blocking that.
Now he's changed his tune. But an awful lot of
Republicans this law that bans TikTok was champion It was
written by Republicans, it was passed by Republicans. I mean
the Democrats did too. It was overwhelmingly passed by both parties.
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But you would have to have a lot of Republicans
reverse themselves. And Chris, that vote was just six months ago.
It wasn't like this was some years ago.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
They just did this.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
They just talked about the national security concerns and why
they were willing to overcome the first MN obstacles because
they were so concerned about the safety of the United
States for the data that was being given to our
Chinese friends. So I don't know. I think there's a
lot of Republicans who voted in favor of this law
that would now reverse themselves if Trump asked them to.
But I think there's some that would say, no, this
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really is a security issue and we're not going to
change it. So I think what's more likely is that
Trump takes office on the twentieth and he gives whatever
assurance TikTok and these service providers need that he's not
going to enforce it. He's going to legally provide a delay,
whether he says TikTok is trying to sell it sell
or he'll give an order to the Justice Department not
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to enforce it. And I think TikTok stays live. That's
my I guess what happens from there. I don't know
whether they change the law or Trump finds another way
around it. I don't know, but they're working pretty hard,
I think, to try to keep in the action.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Barry Markson is an attorney, a legal expert, and also
a national political columnist joining me right now as we
talk about TikTok ban, which the Supreme Court said is constitutional,
it can go through. You talked about national security concerns.
Some people are scrambling to find an alternative. For some,
they were already sort of migrating their content over to
the other popular platforms, whether that's Instagram or Snapchat or
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whatever else. For others, they're kind of left flat footed
and they're going, oh, I better do something.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
You heard in the story that ABC seven had.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Many are going to this app called red Note, which
is also run by a Chinese company. Another alternative is
called Lemon eight. Sounds like Lemon eight if you say
quickly lemon eight. Lemon eight is also owned by Byte Dance.
So TikTok obviously is the one that caught the attention
because of its popularity. Is it safe to say that
if people largely go to these other Chinese apps, it
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doesn't even have to be social media if they go
to these other Chinese owned apps. Are the other apps
also likely to be targets of Congress in the future
or is that a political.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Nightmare for them?
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Well, I would have said yes, that the Congress would
act quickly to ban the same these new companies that
are also owned by the Chinese. But again it depends
on what Trump wants to do. I mean, he loves TikTok.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Now.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Part of it, I think is some of his big
donors are owners of TikTok, and they came to him
and said, hey, you should take another look at this.
Part of it is that Trump really used TikTok in
this campaign. He got a lot of people to vote
for him.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
I think he.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Credits some of that to TikTok, and he doesn't want
to lose that influence with the young voters. So whether
or not he's going to take those kind of steps,
I don't know, but it's it's obviously dangerous. I don't
know why folks wouldn't just go to some of the
other existing social media companies that are United States based.
I mean, Chris, let's face it, they track the same data,
but the data doesn't go to the Chinese government. That
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seems to be the biggest, the biggest concern here. So
I think there's options. But whether or not any of
those companies are going to get the the gravitas are
going to get the size tuck hat. That doesn't happen overnight.
And if we've seen this, people trying to leave Twitter
and they're going to these other Blue Sky and other ones,
but those are they're not They're not picking up the
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same number of people. And I don't know that any
of these other companies will either.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, I appreciate that Barry marks in our attorney, legal
expert and national political columnists, the pleasure having you on,
Barry Guy, I consider a good friend.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
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Find out what this one goes toward.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That is next Chris Merrill KFI AM six forty live
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Speaker 3 (20:55):
More stimulating talk.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Hey, I mean I was listening to that cut that
you had of Governor Batman, who is the most Bruce
Wayne looking politician I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Something struck me though? Do you have do you happen
to have that cut? Handy? Yeah? Play that again. I
want to know who to forgive my language? Who the
hell these people are that are doubling rents? I want
their names, their address. I'm coming after them.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Wow, he's sounding a little bit less like Bruce Wayne
and more like another action hero. Did you do you
hear what I did? Maybe instead of Governor Batman, he's
Governor Nisan.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Now, I don't know who you are. I can tell
you why. I don't have money, but what I do
have are a very particular set of skills. Yeah, skills
I have acquired her for a very long career skills
the Macnam nightmare. For people like you, I will look
for you, Yeah, I will find.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You, Yes, and I will kill you. That's basically I
heard Newsom saying. I thought he was going to throw
an F bomb in there.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Especially when he said, excuse my language, right, like, oh,
this is gonna be great. Yes, I wish you'd added that,
because what did you say? I want your name, I
want your address, and I'm gonna find you. Wouldn't it
been a great if you just wrap it up with
and I will kill youaty delivery, I will kill you
like almost a whisper, almost a growl, and I will
(22:25):
kill you, and I will kill you. That definitely had
the Christian Bale Batman feel to it, though, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, that could be a line right out
of the movie and I will kill you, I will
kill you. Fantastical, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
All right, So Newsom is going to try to stop
people from doing the shady stuff, the looters and the
scammers and the and the gougers and all the other stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
All right, great.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Meanwhile, if you love your delicious confectioneries and you like
them and the color red, you might be out.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Of let's luck, skis.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
It's the artificial food dye, giving hundreds of products their
bright red color, from candy and cakes to drinks and medication.
But tonight the FDA is moving to ban red dye
three because of a potential cancer risk after a petition
from food safety advocates.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, she says, medication. Does that mean like robotestin and
Nike will what it's cherry flavored Nike will which doesn't
really taste like cherries. Does that have that red dye
number three in it?
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Then?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Oh, that's irony. I'm taking medicine and the medicine is
actually killing me. Decades after FDA admitted that this chemical
is indeed cast cinogen in animals, it has taken the
product of the walk.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
Red dye three was banned from cosmetics and topical drugs
in nineteen ninety. Today, the FDA saying the dye has
not been linked to cancer in humans, only in rats.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But the FDA noting, so definitely, do not feed your
rats red dye number three?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
All right?
Speaker 9 (23:57):
What did they note But the FDA noting it's required
by law to remove any additive found to cause cancer
in people or animals.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
These products have been banned in Europe for many, many years,
so I wonder why the FDA approved them in the
first place.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Tonight, some in the food color industry pushing back on
the ban, pointing to the FDA's own acknowledgment that red
dye three isn't believed to pose the same cancer risk
to humans. David food companies have until January twenty twenty
seven to remove the dye from their products.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Oh so we get to keep giving people cancer until then.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Drug companies have a year after that.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
David aerial even better. All right, so the drug companies
still have three more years to offer us. That's good.
So here's a fun little side note.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The FDA does say that the link between the red
dye three and cancer has not been made in humans,
as you heard pointed out in the ABC story. But
the dye is believed to cause behavioral changes in children.
So if you have a rambunctious kid, it could be
because they're eating their fruit loops with red dye three
(25:02):
in it, or maybe because you give them Nike Will
to make them go to sleep at night. That's what
I studies into the ties between red three and hyperactivity
and children back to the nineteen seventies. Yet it's a
staple ingredient in some kid's favorite foods now, so it
sounds like it's more than just the sugars. It's more
than just the candy and the sugar that they have
in their cereals. It could be that red die that's
(25:24):
also making your kid r. So have we noticed the
correlation between the uptick in people diagnosed with ADHD and
the prevalence.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Of these foods?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
And I don't know if you've been watching some of
the other story news lately, but there's actually an uptick
in the diagnoses in adults with ADHD and it kind
of makes you wonder if there's a tie here too.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I'm not a doctor. I just irresponsibly speculate on the radio.
I don't know that there is.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I'm just throwing it out there because I don't have
the answer, and I want to sound like I'm smart
and a deep thinker, but I have nothing to add
beyond that. You're welcome, all right, NASCAR to the White House.
Stat next Chris Merril KFI AM six forty. We're live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to KFI AM
six forty on demand. Chris Merril KFI AM six forty
(26:19):
more stimulating talk. The inauguration is set to go on
tomorrow newon eastern, which is what nine o'clock here, And
I did see. I think the funniest commentary on this
was that you you saw that the.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Inauguration has been moved indoors because of the Arctic.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Blast, And so I said, I saw a tweet where
it was I don't know, just CNN saying inauguration moved
indoors due to cold weather. And the reply was, and
y'all want to take over Canada and Greenland. I thought
that it is great, that is funny, My goodness, just
the same Tomorrow morning, bright and early, the Bidens will
(27:03):
leave the White House. Unlike you and I when we
have to relocate, the Bidens don't have to do a
whole lot. I don't think they even have to pack
much of their own crap. I think that's basically up
to other people. Do you think that Jill Biden right
now is sitting somewhere in the White House just folding
sweaters and dropping him into a home depot box Because
I'm guessing no.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But I do know that everything has.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
To be ready to go, because then the White House
version of a NASCAR pit crew jumps in.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
News Nation was talking about the.
Speaker 10 (27:31):
Bedlam a whirlwind in the White House within seven hours,
the belongings of the Bidens will be moved out and
the possessions of the Trumps will be moved in.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
We start moving things in from the vans that have
been stationed there overnight on the South grounds, and the
remaining items of the existing family aren't going to vans
on the North grounds.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You suppose that the Trump's is it all new stuff
or do they just bring grab a few things from
Trump Tower, a few things from Bedminster, a few things
from Marlow and just bring them all together, or they
get all new crap because when I move into a
new place, I like to get new stuff. Can't afford
all new stuff, but I get a few nice.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Nice little things.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
Brand transformation in full swing, absolute mass bedlam, but it's organized.
Speaker 11 (28:15):
Every member of the ninety seven members staff are all working.
Some people are bringing clothes in, some are bringing furnishings.
You got electricians doing wiring, you got engineers putting up things.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Everybody's working together.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
What do you suppose the electricians are wiring? Do they
need new outlets? I'm a little confused. Or maybe that's
just the best time to get into the the personal
orders for the President in order to I don't know,
put in new led lights or something.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I don't know. That's seems odd to me. Oh electricians.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Well, yes, they're doing electrical for like a reporter some
things now that it's a bad weather.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
But don't you Okay, but that wouldn't be necessarily part
of the transition of chaos.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
It would just be in addition to it. Yeah, what
do I know.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'm just hearing the news.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You're so much fun. You're like, well, you don't know. Yeah,
I like that.
Speaker 11 (29:24):
It's almost like circa solet with so many characters and
so many things happening at once.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
Because of security, outside movers can't be used and it's
the outgoing and incoming first ladies that help plan for
the move. Former White House usher Chris Emory says, sometimes
it doesn't all go as planned.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Okay, before we get to that, they can't use outside movers,
so that means somebody has to like have clearance to
move Crap, my god, I have enough trouble finding people
to move my stuff. I can't even imaginef they had
to get through a clearance or do you suppose secret
service draw straw?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Hey, you guys are going to be at the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You guys, you guys could just wear t shirts to
work because you're gonna be holding boxes.
Speaker 11 (30:07):
I can recall President Clinton coming directly to me saying,
where's his tux He had an inaugural to go to,
and so there's a mad search throughout the house trying
to find what happened in his tucks. It was finally
found on the third floor closet, like a half an
hour before he was ready to go.
Speaker 10 (30:22):
The priority for the White House staff to make sure
the new first family immediately feels at home.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Did Clinton only have one tuxedo? Oh, the other one
that stains on him?
Speaker 11 (30:34):
Yeah, thank you, The right shaving cream, the right toothpaste
or the right toothbrush, and having kings in the place
that he expects them.
Speaker 10 (30:42):
The new First family knows mostly what to expect from
the first go around, but it still will be a
heavy lift before their homecoming is complete.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Kelly Meyer News Nation, All right, thank you very much, Kelly.
I appreciate that. So it sounds like they send them.
They send them. It must be a questionnaire and they
go what do you need?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And probably very specific, so you don't even just say
I need razors and shaving cream. They want to know
do you want the Gillette, do you want the shick?
Do you want something different when you want shaving cream?
What kind of shaving cream do you want? If you
use an electric razor? Do you want a Panasonic? Do
you want a Remington? What kind of I bet it's
very specific, and I bet that's a real pain. I
(31:23):
didn't just win the election to be the king of
the world so that I'd have to answer questions about
what I need at Walmart.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Just get whatever. I'll complain about it if it's wrong,
and otherwise, just get it. That's how I would be.
That's why I can't get elected. I always I love
the behind the scenes stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
The inauguration, as you know, has been moved indoors because
cole ceremony.
Speaker 12 (31:47):
Now inside things will look different than they have in
previous years. DC is getting ready this morning with road
closures already in place.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Speaking of doing work, how'd you like to be the
person that's set up the entire stage and then laid
all those chairs out and then they get worded that
goes you know what, we don't need them.
Speaker 12 (32:05):
Oh, heightened security in the nation's capital is Donald Trump
returns to Washington and prepares to be sworn in for
his second term. The president elect, kicking off a weekend
of events last night with a fireworks show at his
golf club in Sterling, Virginia. Trump telling ABC's Rachel Scott
his inaugural address will be about unity, strength and fairness.
On his final day before taking office, Trump participating in
(32:26):
a ceremony at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier at
Arlington National Cemetery.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
One of my first priorities is to give a name
to the unknown soldier.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
We're gonna call him Ben. I always wanted to Ben.
Maybe Benny heer Shart. That's going to be Executive Order
number one, name the unknown Soldier.
Speaker 12 (32:46):
Tonight, he will have a campaign style rally at the
Capitol One Arena in downtown Washington. Workers are busy building
a stage inside the Capitol Rotunda after the decision was
made to move Monday's inaugural events indoors, Trump citing an
arctic blasting the country. Trump writing online, I don't want
to see people hurt or injured in any way. Therefore,
I have ordered the inaugural address, in addition to prayers
(33:08):
and other speeches to be delivered in the United States
Capital Rotunda, the massive outdoor platform where the oath is
normally taken, can hold more than a thousand people.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
The rotunda can only hold about six hundred guests.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
President Biden, members of Congress, and other notable guests will
be there, but the vast majority of ticketed guests will
not be able to attend the ceremonies in person.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Does that mean that the TikTok guy isn't going to
be there? Oh about a tragedy.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
This wearing and ceremony was last moved indoors forty years ago,
when President Reagan was sworn in for his second term.
According to Trump's post, the Capital One Arena will be
open tomorrow for what he's calling live viewing of this
historic event. The arena will also host the presidential parade.
Trump says he will join the crowd there after he
has sworn a.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh okay, so inauguration day he's going to give a
speech and then join people. Or maybe he's just going
to tell him and then not. This happened before. Every
week at six o'clock.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
We do it.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
There's no business like show business. Kayl is not here
this week, and so it's it's just us so that's
a tragedy. White.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh look there it is producer Kayla and Memricks. Very
good show business roll.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
You nailed it. By the way, the unknown soldier has
his name, so sorry, mister Trump, not anymore. It's gonna
give it a new name. It's Michael and we're not
changing the name. Is that right, Yeah? Michael J. Blasi.
Oh okay, they identified the unknowns. Yes. Interesting. I did
not know that.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What a fun fact we learned something tonight. Thanks buddy,
I appreciate that. All right, No business like show business. Next,
Chris Merril kf I AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app KFI AM six
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You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. Good afternoon,
Chris Merrill.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I AM six forty more stimulating talk and listen anytime
on demand of the iHeart Radio app. I am a
little like Betty White and Bob Barker. I'm old and white.
But aside from that, I do love the animals and
I am concerned. I'm devastated when I hear stories about
people that had to leave their animals behind in a lockhouse.
(00:27):
Because I've heard stories before about how animals will figure
it out, they'll find a way out. I don't know
that that's always the case. And I can't think of
a more horrible end. And I will loose sleep over it,
no joke. I'll be lying there at night. My mind's
starting to wander all over talking, you know, thinking about
all sorts of things, and all of a sudden that'll
pop into my head and I just snap awake, and
I just feel horrible. The good news is we are
(00:52):
a community full of people willing to help.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
ABC seven was talking about what some are doing.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Will extend to families in need.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Excuse me, let me started the beginning.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
LA County officials say they've taken in close to four
hundred animals since the start of the fires and placed
them at various evacuation centers, most of them being larger
animals like horses and ponies. Those were evacuated to the
Pierce Equestrian Center. The Agra Hill's Animal Care Center has
taken in over one hundred smaller animals like cats, dogs, snakes,
(01:20):
and tortoises.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
The response from the community has been amazing. We're incredibly grateful.
They're keeping our staff well fed, They're making sure that
we have everything we need for the animals, and the
highlight has been we have had over six hundred adoptions
and rescues since the start of the fires, which has
really eased the burden on our care centers and enabled
(01:43):
our staff to focus just on taking care of displaced pets.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Officials say they will continue to accept donations, but what
they really need right now are people to adopt these
wonderful animals. Any excess donations, they say they will extend
to families in need.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Right So, who's stepping up joining me right now is
the founder of Dog Coalition, La Carter. Goffigin and Carter,
thanks so much for being on the program. I appreciate
not only you being here, but obviously everything that you do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
All right, what do you guys got going on? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I know that you guys work so hard to try
to pair up dogs and you know perspective owners are
you seeing and up taking people that are that are interested.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
We've seen an unbelievable outpouring of applicants to foster dogs
coming out of the shelter. So Dog Coalition LA is
a shelter support program. Specifically, we partner with LA Animal Services.
Most typically we work with North Central Shelter, which is
out of northeast LA. We are a totally volunteer run organization.
(02:45):
We go into the shelter, we scout dogs, We get
to know their personalities, their social skills, what they're like
with people, other dogs, and then repair them with long
term fosters based on the best fit and we provide
a bunch of support and train along the way to
set them all up for success and get them adopted.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
What is your criteria that you go into these other
shelters and you find dogs that have been there for
a while that have had trouble being adopted, or you
just try to pick out the best ones.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Yeah, we primarily look so We focus specifically on forty
plus pound dogs, largely because they're the hardest taken out
of the shelter, and we look for really, we really
look for dogs that are social, social with people, social
with other animals. We run, we run playgroups in the shelter.
That allows us to get a sense of what their
play styles and social skills are like with other dogs,
(03:34):
and that really, you know, gives us super critical information
to be able to safely and responsibly pair dogs with
the appropriate fosters and ultimately the appropriate adopts.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So what do you do, Carter Goffigan is joining me
right now, founder of the Dog Coalition Los Angeles. What
do you do with all the people that are putting
in applications? You go through all those applications and call
everybody right back. I mean, what is that problem? Says
look like if I'm interested, because I feel like every
dog over forty pounds is right for me and any dog,
any dog under forty pounds as a cat.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Nobody needs a cat. So what do you do? Then?
What do you do? Stole that from parks and rest
That's a.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Fair, look, that's a really fair question. I'm super glad
you asked because I will tell you in the week
following the outbruk, the initial outburk of the fire, we
saw almost two hundred applications come in. Wow, so, which
is unbelievable and like that amount of support is incredible.
The reality is there are limitations to what our team
(04:35):
can provide, and not everybody's going to be the right
fit for the program, particularly because we ask a lot
of our fosters. The most important piece is a commitment
to be able to foster long term, ultimately through to adoption.
We can't guarantee how long that process is going to take,
and so you know, while it's wonderful that folks want
(04:56):
to be able to chip in for a couple of
weeks here and there, that's fortunately not not something that
we can support because if a person can't keep a
dog long term, they ultimately are going back to the shelter,
and we want to avoid that at all costs.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Are there are there shelters though, that do need short
term foster Maybe not yours.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
But are there some that do need I would definitely
encourage folks to reach out to their local rescues. There
are tons of rescues across LA that may need a
short term. From my experience, most folks are looking for
longer term fosters. But you know, again totally understand that
(05:37):
that is in a commitment that everybody can make. There's
also a lot of ways to volunteer, you know, whether
it's volunteering to help with adoption events or volunteering to
actually be in the shelters.
Speaker 7 (05:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
And so while these this initial show of support is incredible,
I think the important thing to remember is that like this,
shelters and these animals in Los Angeles always need help.
So even if you can't do it now, they're still
going to need help in a few months and certainly,
you know, in a few years.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Do you feel like it's a little bit like the
blood bank, you know, when a natural disaster hits, everybody
blood sure, but then of course the natural disaster moves on,
the blood is used, and all of a sudden they're
short on supply.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Again.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You find that to be the case here where you've
got huge interest and people want to help out, and
they're good people that want to do good things, but
then all of a sudden everybody goes away absolutely.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Which is you know, it's human nature. I totally understand
that the impulse to want to raise your hand and
support in the immediate and I think we saw it
certainly at the beginning of COVID, with folks adopting animals
that really high rates, and then you know a lot
of those dogs ended up back in the shelter because
you know, their lifestyles changed, or you know, they took
(06:53):
dogs and then they didn't socialize them appropriately, and then
when the world started to open up, they found that
dogs weren't equipped to handle the world, so they went
back to the shelter. And so, you know, I think
there is some of that for sure, and I you know,
as you shared in that clip a few minutes ago,
there has been incredible collaboration with rescues and the shelter
(07:17):
staff and volunteers to get dogs out, and there's been
huge transportation efforts to move dogs out of the state
to partners and rescues in other states that have more
capacity and free up space at our shelters for the
anticipated intake of animals coming coming out of the fire.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Contor Gafaget is a founder of Dog Coalition LA joining
us now as we talk about pets, and I know
how difficult this is as people are. I'm thinking of
people who weren't even home when the fire broke out
and then they were told you can't go back home.
And if it were me, my dogs up there, right,
I would be freaking out at that point, and of
course you know, I know my dog would be freaking
out too. So what are some of the things as
(08:00):
you've got these applications coming in? You said there's some criteria,
and what are some things? For instance, if I live
in a one bedroom studio in a congested part of town,
I'm probably not a great candidate to adopt one hundred
and fifty pound dog from you. So what are some
of the things if I don't have this, If I
don't meet this criteria, this is not going to be
(08:20):
right for me. So that people aren't wasting their time
or your time on this. But then also they're going
to be looking for you know, they can go get
a snake, something that lives in an aquarium, right, they
can do that.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
What are some of those things that you run into
and you go, I'm so sorry you don't have it
doesn't really work.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Yeah, I think, really tactically for a foster from a
fostering perspective, folks need to live within twenty miles of
the shelter in the Roth East LA, So that sort
of super tactically that doesn't apply to adopters. Adopts is
a much much broader pool, you know. I think lifestyle
is a reality. Think about your activity level, Think about
(08:56):
how much exercise you do or want to be doing.
Think about your space of course, you know, while you know,
of course we would love for every big dog to
have a yard and space to run around, that's not
realistic in LA. And what I always tell people is
it's a hell of a lot better than their concrete
tunnel at the shelter.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
That's true.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
So if you have the ability to take it out
on a walk a couple times a day, you know,
and even if you're in a studio apartment like that
can still work. Okay, maybe don't get a super young dog.
Maybe don't get a super athletic dog. You know, we're
seeing a lot of huskis and shepherds in the shelter
because folks don't necessarily understand what's needed for those kinds
(09:40):
of dogs. So I think really taking an honest look
at your lifestyle, and then if you have other pets,
It's super important to know, you know, if you've got
other dogs, what are their social skills like with other dogs?
If you have cats. Obviously, the cat dog integration pieces
can be tricky and we do our best to support
folks and quote unquote cap test are dogs to see
(10:03):
sort of which dogs we think would be appropriate. So yeah,
those are some of the criteria that we consider.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Thank you so much. Carter Goff again the founder of
Dog Coalition LA.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And you can find out more at Dog Coalition, Dog
Coalition Nea.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Is that right, Dog Coalition, Dog Coalition La La. Oh Okay,
I read it wrong. See this is what happens when
I get old.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
I get old and slow like my dog in La
dot org or Dog Coalition La on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Okay, Dog Coalition La dot org. And I got somebody
to read things for me. I hate this stuff. You're good, Carter,
You're great. Thank you so much for being on the program.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Thanks, Chris, appreciate you having us.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
All right, I bless you. Take care. Uh photos.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
By the way, we still have a number of people
that have been reported missing by the La County Sheriff's
Department from both Palisades and the Eaton Fire areas. Find
out who we have on that list, and we've got
some photos, We've got some names. Kf i AM six
forty dot com slash missing, kf I AM six slash missing.
And as we find out about more people, more names,
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more photos, we'll put them up there again.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Kfi AM six forty dot com slash missing.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
NASCAR Heads to Washington kind of that's next, Chris Merril,
kfi AM six forty. We live everywhere on the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You're listening to kfi AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Hey if I AM six forty more stimulating talk, Chris Merrill.
A quick reminder, we have photos of people that had
been missing by the La County Shriffs Department from both
the Palisades and from the Eaton Fire and that is
up at kfi AM six forty dot com slash missing.
And then as we find out who else is out there,
we get more names and photos, we'll add those as
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well again. Kfi AM six forty dot com slash missing.
Really easy to do, boy, you would have thought the
sky was falling. The country just decided to stop paying
attention to the wildfires. Yesterday afternoon. We were so focused
the whole country, the attention. The big story was the wildfires,
and now whoop, we have just made it to page
(12:05):
five because page one is all about TikTok.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Oh, my gosh, TikTok.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
They said they were gonna shut down today and then
all of a sudden, people started losing service yesterday, and
you have the pop up notice if you're unfamiliar.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
They got the pop up notice that said we're.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Shutting it down because of US policy, but thank goodness
we have incoming President Trump will work with him, which
I thought was bizarre. And now some people are coming
back online, some are getting back into the swing of
the TikTok. I guess they. I guess a Biden administration
figured something out here. I was kind of surprised that
they would go dark at all. I thought this was
(12:42):
all about putting on a bit of a show. But
you know, they did, and I think that probably costs
I mean, millions of millions of dollars spread among many,
many people, and I guess I was kind of surprised
to see that happen. Joining me is Barry Marks, and
he's an attorney, legal expert in national political columnist. Very
pleasure to have you on the program. That has to
(13:03):
be a bit of a surprise then that that they
did this. I didn't think they go through with it.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
I you know, initially was I thought this was kind
of them playing their hand and trying to leverage that
against the United States government and enforcement. But I think
what they're concerned about is the service providers that that
bring them to us. There's all sorts of companies behind
the scenes that we don't really know about that'll that
control the Internet and bring this stuff to us. And
I think those companies are saying, hey, it's now illegal
(13:31):
for us to bring TikTok out there, and we don't
want to get in trouble with the law. So they're
saying that the Biden administration and the Justice Department need
to say something definitively that it's not illegal, or they
they're not going to enforce it somehow in writing so
that the service providers don't shut them down.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So who are the service Like are we talking like
Verizon and AT and T, and and and and Cox
and Time Warner and Spectrum and that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Who's who are the service providers?
Speaker 7 (13:59):
I don't know, they just service providers. I know there's
behind the scenes Internet companies that really bring these bring
these you know, the companies that we know the facebooks
and the twitters and everything else that come to us
on our phones. It's it's those companies you mentioned, Chris
and others that we probably don't know the name of.
They're the ones that control it, and I think they're
concerned about enforcing it against them. It will be illegal.
(14:19):
I get that, but the Biden administration said they're not
going to enforce the law. Trump has certainly indicated he's
not going to enforce it initially. He wants to try
to try to negotiate a better deal. I don't I
didn't think that this was going to really be an issue,
at least not immediately, but TikTok is making it sound
like it will be. So. I'm it's certainly going to
be very expensive for an awful lot of people who
(14:41):
make their living on TikTok these days.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Barry Markson is a legal expert and a national political columnist,
an attorney. Barry, why didn't fight dance, just divest TikTok
and just move on with it? I mean they could have.
They could have raked in literally billions. They're still an
offer on the table. Kevin O'Leary, the the guy from
Shark Tank, says he'd give him twenty billion dollars right now.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Why don't they just take twenty billion dollars and be
done with this headache?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Well, yeah, you have to remember TikTok, it's not just
the United States, it's all over the world. And I
don't know how that would work. So they're going to
sell off this piece of it but maintain everything else.
Is that limit the amount of content that gets the TikTok?
You separate it and cut it out entirely. It seems
like there'd be a way to divest the portion of
the company that has the ability to download that data
(15:29):
and keep that from the Chinese owners. There'd be a
way to do that. But I think I don't think
TikTok folks that Bite Dance people thought this was going
to happen. I think they thought this would stop the
Supreme Court would stop on First Amendment grounds, and now
they're faced with this eminent enforcement of the law. That's
my guess. It may eventually end up getting sold off
or at least get enough investors from the United States
(15:51):
in that can control that part of it, so the
Chinese don't control that portion of the company. But as
it stands right now, they haven't done anything, not even
enough to allow for President Trump to institute part of
the law which allows him to say the company is
working towards a sale and therefore I can delay enforcement of.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Law for ninety days.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
That's in this law. But TikTok hasn't done anything to
even take a step forwards that.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
The reality is that the Republican Party is Trump's party
right now.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I don't think anybody would argue with me on that,
whether it's a Democrat or a Republican, I think they
would all acknowledge this is his party. With control of
the House, the Senate, and the White House soon to
be in the Republican's hands, meaning Trump's hands, what are
the odds that Congress gets back together and redes i mean,
completely revamps their own law in some sort of an
(16:39):
emergency manner in order to remedy this problem right now?
Speaker 7 (16:44):
It's an interesting question because if you go back just
three or four years ago, President A. Trump was the
one saying we need to ban TikTok. He was leading
that call and yelling that the Democrats were blocking that.
Now he's changed his tune. But an awful lot of
Republicans this law that bans TikTok was champion It was
written by Republicans, it was passed by Republicans. I mean
the Democrats did too. It was overwhelmingly passed by both parties.
(17:06):
But you would have to have a lot of Republicans
reverse themselves. And Chris, that vote was just six months ago.
It wasn't like this was some years ago.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
They just did this.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
They just talked about the national security concerns and why
they were willing to overcome the first MN obstacles because
they were so concerned about the safety of the United
States for the data that was being given to our
Chinese friends. So I don't know. I think there's a
lot of Republicans who voted in favor of this law
that would now reverse themselves if Trump asked them to.
But I think there's some that would say, no, this
(17:36):
really is a security issue and we're not going to
change it. So I think what's more likely is that
Trump takes office on the twentieth and he gives whatever
assurance TikTok and these service providers need that he's not
going to enforce it. He's going to legally provide a delay,
whether he says TikTok is trying to sell it sell
or he'll give an order to the Justice Department not
(17:57):
to enforce it. And I think TikTok stays live. That's
my I guess what happens from there. I don't know
whether they change the law or Trump finds another way
around it. I don't know, but they're working pretty hard,
I think, to try to keep in the action.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Barry Markson is an attorney, a legal expert, and also
a national political columnist joining me right now as we
talk about TikTok ban, which the Supreme Court said is constitutional,
it can go through. You talked about national security concerns.
Some people are scrambling to find an alternative. For some,
they were already sort of migrating their content over to
the other popular platforms, whether that's Instagram or Snapchat or
(18:32):
whatever else. For others, they're kind of left flat footed
and they're going, oh, I better do something.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
You heard in the story that ABC seven had.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Many are going to this app called red Note, which
is also run by a Chinese company. Another alternative is
called Lemon eight. Sounds like Lemon eight if you say
quickly lemon eight. Lemon eight is also owned by Byte Dance.
So TikTok obviously is the one that caught the attention
because of its popularity. Is it safe to say that
if people largely go to these other Chinese apps, it
(19:03):
doesn't even have to be social media if they go
to these other Chinese owned apps. Are the other apps
also likely to be targets of Congress in the future
or is that a political.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Nightmare for them?
Speaker 7 (19:14):
Well, I would have said yes, that the Congress would
act quickly to ban the same these new companies that
are also owned by the Chinese. But again it depends
on what Trump wants to do. I mean, he loves TikTok.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Now.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Part of it, I think is some of his big
donors are owners of TikTok, and they came to him
and said, hey, you should take another look at this.
Part of it is that Trump really used TikTok in
this campaign. He got a lot of people to vote
for him.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
I think he.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Credits some of that to TikTok, and he doesn't want
to lose that influence with the young voters. So whether
or not he's going to take those kind of steps,
I don't know, but it's it's obviously dangerous. I don't
know why folks wouldn't just go to some of the
other existing social media companies that are United States based.
I mean, Chris, let's face it, they track the same data,
but the data doesn't go to the Chinese government. That
(19:56):
seems to be the biggest, the biggest concern here. So
I think there's options. But whether or not any of
those companies are going to get the the gravitas are
going to get the size tuck hat. That doesn't happen overnight.
And if we've seen this, people trying to leave Twitter
and they're going to these other Blue Sky and other ones,
but those are they're not They're not picking up the
(20:17):
same number of people. And I don't know that any
of these other companies will either.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, I appreciate that Barry marks in our attorney, legal
expert and national political columnists, the pleasure having you on,
Barry Guy, I consider a good friend.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It is food, glorious food and major changes coming to
your well mostly breakfast table, as well as another fee
on your check.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Find out what this one goes toward.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
That is next Chris Merrill KFI AM six forty live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand, I'm
gonna have to Chris Merril CAFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
More stimulating talk.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Hey, I mean I was listening to that cut that
you had of Governor Batman, who is the most Bruce
Wayne looking politician I've ever heard.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Something struck me though? Do you have do you happen
to have that cut? Handy? Yeah? Play that again. I
want to know who to forgive my language? Who the
hell these people are that are doubling rents? I want
their names, their address. I'm coming after them.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Wow, he's sounding a little bit less like Bruce Wayne
and more like another action hero. Did you do you
hear what I did? Maybe instead of Governor Batman, he's
Governor Nisan.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Now, I don't know who you are. I can tell
you why. I don't have money, but what I do
have are a very particular set of skills. Yeah, skills
I have acquired her for a very long career skills
the Macnam nightmare. For people like you, I will look
for you, Yeah, I will find.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You, Yes, and I will kill you. That's basically I
heard Newsom saying. I thought he was going to throw
an F bomb in there.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Especially when he said, excuse my language, right, like, oh,
this is gonna be great. Yes, I wish you'd added that,
because what did you say? I want your name, I
want your address, and I'm gonna find you. Wouldn't it
been a great if you just wrap it up with
and I will kill youaty delivery, I will kill you
like almost a whisper, almost a growl, and I will
(22:25):
kill you, and I will kill you. That definitely had
the Christian Bale Batman feel to it, though, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, that could be a line right out
of the movie and I will kill you, I will
kill you. Fantastical, fantastic.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
All right, So Newsom is going to try to stop
people from doing the shady stuff, the looters and the
scammers and the and the gougers and all the other stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
All right, great.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Meanwhile, if you love your delicious confectioneries and you like
them and the color red, you might be out.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Of let's luck, skis.
Speaker 9 (23:01):
It's the artificial food dye, giving hundreds of products their
bright red color, from candy and cakes to drinks and medication.
But tonight the FDA is moving to ban red dye
three because of a potential cancer risk after a petition
from food safety advocates.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Well, she says, medication. Does that mean like robotestin and
Nike will what it's cherry flavored Nike will which doesn't
really taste like cherries. Does that have that red dye
number three in it?
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Then?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Oh, that's irony. I'm taking medicine and the medicine is
actually killing me. Decades after FDA admitted that this chemical
is indeed cast cinogen in animals, it has taken the
product of the walk.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
Red dye three was banned from cosmetics and topical drugs
in nineteen ninety. Today, the FDA saying the dye has
not been linked to cancer in humans, only in rats.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
But the FDA noting, so definitely, do not feed your
rats red dye number three?
Speaker 8 (23:56):
All right?
Speaker 9 (23:57):
What did they note But the FDA noting it's required
by law to remove any additive found to cause cancer
in people or animals.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
These products have been banned in Europe for many, many years,
so I wonder why the FDA approved them in the
first place.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
Tonight, some in the food color industry pushing back on
the ban, pointing to the FDA's own acknowledgment that red
dye three isn't believed to pose the same cancer risk
to humans. David food companies have until January twenty twenty
seven to remove the dye from their products.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Oh so we get to keep giving people cancer until then.
Speaker 9 (24:30):
Drug companies have a year after that.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
David aerial even better. All right, so the drug companies
still have three more years to offer us. That's good.
So here's a fun little side note.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The FDA does say that the link between the red
dye three and cancer has not been made in humans,
as you heard pointed out in the ABC story. But
the dye is believed to cause behavioral changes in children.
So if you have a rambunctious kid, it could be
because they're eating their fruit loops with red dye three
(25:02):
in it, or maybe because you give them Nike Will
to make them go to sleep at night. That's what
I studies into the ties between red three and hyperactivity
and children back to the nineteen seventies. Yet it's a
staple ingredient in some kid's favorite foods now, so it
sounds like it's more than just the sugars. It's more
than just the candy and the sugar that they have
in their cereals. It could be that red die that's
(25:24):
also making your kid r. So have we noticed the
correlation between the uptick in people diagnosed with ADHD and
the prevalence.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Of these foods?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
And I don't know if you've been watching some of
the other story news lately, but there's actually an uptick
in the diagnoses in adults with ADHD and it kind
of makes you wonder if there's a tie here too.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I'm not a doctor. I just irresponsibly speculate on the radio.
I don't know that there is.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I'm just throwing it out there because I don't have
the answer, and I want to sound like I'm smart
and a deep thinker, but I have nothing to add
beyond that. You're welcome, all right, NASCAR to the White House.
Stat next Chris Merril KFI AM six forty. We're live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to KFI AM
six forty on demand. Chris Merril KFI AM six forty
(26:19):
more stimulating talk. The inauguration is set to go on
tomorrow newon eastern, which is what nine o'clock here, And
I did see. I think the funniest commentary on this
was that you you saw that the.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Inauguration has been moved indoors because of the Arctic.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Blast, And so I said, I saw a tweet where
it was I don't know, just CNN saying inauguration moved
indoors due to cold weather. And the reply was, and
y'all want to take over Canada and Greenland. I thought
that it is great, that is funny, My goodness, just
the same Tomorrow morning, bright and early, the Bidens will
(27:03):
leave the White House. Unlike you and I when we
have to relocate, the Bidens don't have to do a
whole lot. I don't think they even have to pack
much of their own crap. I think that's basically up
to other people. Do you think that Jill Biden right
now is sitting somewhere in the White House just folding
sweaters and dropping him into a home depot box Because
I'm guessing no.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But I do know that everything has.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
To be ready to go, because then the White House
version of a NASCAR pit crew jumps in.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
News Nation was talking about the.
Speaker 10 (27:31):
Bedlam a whirlwind in the White House within seven hours,
the belongings of the Bidens will be moved out and
the possessions of the Trumps will be moved in.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
We start moving things in from the vans that have
been stationed there overnight on the South grounds, and the
remaining items of the existing family aren't going to vans
on the North grounds.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You suppose that the Trump's is it all new stuff
or do they just bring grab a few things from
Trump Tower, a few things from Bedminster, a few things
from Marlow and just bring them all together, or they
get all new crap because when I move into a
new place, I like to get new stuff. Can't afford
all new stuff, but I get a few nice.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Nice little things.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
Brand transformation in full swing, absolute mass bedlam, but it's organized.
Speaker 11 (28:15):
Every member of the ninety seven members staff are all working.
Some people are bringing clothes in, some are bringing furnishings.
You got electricians doing wiring, you got engineers putting up things.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Everybody's working together.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
What do you suppose the electricians are wiring? Do they
need new outlets? I'm a little confused. Or maybe that's
just the best time to get into the the personal
orders for the President in order to I don't know,
put in new led lights or something.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I don't know. That's seems odd to me. Oh electricians.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Well, yes, they're doing electrical for like a reporter some
things now that it's a bad weather.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
But don't you Okay, but that wouldn't be necessarily part
of the transition of chaos.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
It would just be in addition to it. Yeah, what
do I know.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'm just hearing the news.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You're so much fun. You're like, well, you don't know. Yeah,
I like that.
Speaker 11 (29:24):
It's almost like circa solet with so many characters and
so many things happening at once.
Speaker 10 (29:28):
Because of security, outside movers can't be used and it's
the outgoing and incoming first ladies that help plan for
the move. Former White House usher Chris Emory says, sometimes
it doesn't all go as planned.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Okay, before we get to that, they can't use outside movers,
so that means somebody has to like have clearance to
move Crap, my god, I have enough trouble finding people
to move my stuff. I can't even imaginef they had
to get through a clearance or do you suppose secret
service draw straw?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Hey, you guys are going to be at the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You guys, you guys could just wear t shirts to
work because you're gonna be holding boxes.
Speaker 11 (30:07):
I can recall President Clinton coming directly to me saying,
where's his tux He had an inaugural to go to,
and so there's a mad search throughout the house trying
to find what happened in his tucks. It was finally
found on the third floor closet, like a half an
hour before he was ready to go.
Speaker 10 (30:22):
The priority for the White House staff to make sure
the new first family immediately feels at home.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Did Clinton only have one tuxedo? Oh, the other one
that stains on him?
Speaker 11 (30:34):
Yeah, thank you, The right shaving cream, the right toothpaste
or the right toothbrush, and having kings in the place
that he expects them.
Speaker 10 (30:42):
The new First family knows mostly what to expect from
the first go around, but it still will be a
heavy lift before their homecoming is complete.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Kelly Meyer News Nation, All right, thank you very much, Kelly.
I appreciate that. So it sounds like they send them.
They send them. It must be a questionnaire and they
go what do you need?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And probably very specific, so you don't even just say
I need razors and shaving cream. They want to know
do you want the Gillette, do you want the shick?
Do you want something different when you want shaving cream?
What kind of shaving cream do you want? If you
use an electric razor? Do you want a Panasonic? Do
you want a Remington? What kind of I bet it's
very specific, and I bet that's a real pain. I
(31:23):
didn't just win the election to be the king of
the world so that I'd have to answer questions about
what I need at Walmart.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Just get whatever. I'll complain about it if it's wrong,
and otherwise, just get it. That's how I would be.
That's why I can't get elected. I always I love
the behind the scenes stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
The inauguration, as you know, has been moved indoors because
cole ceremony.
Speaker 12 (31:47):
Now inside things will look different than they have in
previous years. DC is getting ready this morning with road
closures already in place.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Speaking of doing work, how'd you like to be the
person that's set up the entire stage and then laid
all those chairs out and then they get worded that
goes you know what, we don't need them.
Speaker 12 (32:05):
Oh, heightened security in the nation's capital is Donald Trump
returns to Washington and prepares to be sworn in for
his second term. The president elect, kicking off a weekend
of events last night with a fireworks show at his
golf club in Sterling, Virginia. Trump telling ABC's Rachel Scott
his inaugural address will be about unity, strength and fairness.
On his final day before taking office, Trump participating in
(32:26):
a ceremony at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier at
Arlington National Cemetery.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
One of my first priorities is to give a name
to the unknown soldier.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
We're gonna call him Ben. I always wanted to Ben.
Maybe Benny heer Shart. That's going to be Executive Order
number one, name the unknown Soldier.
Speaker 12 (32:46):
Tonight, he will have a campaign style rally at the
Capitol One Arena in downtown Washington. Workers are busy building
a stage inside the Capitol Rotunda after the decision was
made to move Monday's inaugural events indoors, Trump citing an
arctic blasting the country. Trump writing online, I don't want
to see people hurt or injured in any way. Therefore,
I have ordered the inaugural address, in addition to prayers
(33:08):
and other speeches to be delivered in the United States
Capital Rotunda, the massive outdoor platform where the oath is
normally taken, can hold more than a thousand people.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
The rotunda can only hold about six hundred guests.
Speaker 12 (33:19):
President Biden, members of Congress, and other notable guests will
be there, but the vast majority of ticketed guests will
not be able to attend the ceremonies in person.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Does that mean that the TikTok guy isn't going to
be there? Oh about a tragedy.
Speaker 12 (33:32):
This wearing and ceremony was last moved indoors forty years ago,
when President Reagan was sworn in for his second term.
According to Trump's post, the Capital One Arena will be
open tomorrow for what he's calling live viewing of this
historic event. The arena will also host the presidential parade.
Trump says he will join the crowd there after he
has sworn a.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh okay, so inauguration day he's going to give a
speech and then join people. Or maybe he's just going
to tell him and then not. This happened before. Every
week at six o'clock.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
We do it.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
There's no business like show business. Kayl is not here
this week, and so it's it's just us so that's
a tragedy. White.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh look there it is producer Kayla and Memricks. Very
good show business roll.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
You nailed it. By the way, the unknown soldier has
his name, so sorry, mister Trump, not anymore. It's gonna
give it a new name. It's Michael and we're not
changing the name. Is that right, Yeah? Michael J. Blasi.
Oh okay, they identified the unknowns. Yes. Interesting. I did
not know that.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What a fun fact we learned something tonight. Thanks buddy,
I appreciate that. All right, No business like show business. Next,
Chris Merril kf I AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
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