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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand Chris.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Merril am six forty more stimulating talk.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
And there's no business life, business and a girl. And
let me see where are we starting here.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Let's start with Oh, you know, we've been talking about
some of the national stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We were talking about the economy. How about this. We
got tariff trouble in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You've heard the stories about how we're waiting for production
to come back and it's not coming back, and people
are worried, and we've got jobs that are being lost
and it is a significant situation.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
How are the tariffs gonna play in to that?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
At a recent stunt performers workshop, after and stunt performer
Kim Manning says they were told this about their future
job prospects.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Literally, the very first thing that they said when the
meeting got started was well, everyone needs to consider getting
in a day job.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Those Polak assessments have been compounding in recent weeks, Film
LA reporting a twenty two percent decline in local shoots
in the first quarter of the year after one of
the worst years ever for film and TV production in California.
The new terrorists from the Trump administration are also worrying
Hollywood executives. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Warner Discovery CEO
David Zaslav told staffers to reduce discretionary spending because of
(01:13):
quote market volatility, oh oh, and reduced consumer confidence.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, cut your discretionary spending.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Other words, start saving, which a lot of us are
doing already, because we're concerned with the market, right, I mean,
we're concerned with the economy, and so we go. I'm
gonna hold off on that new TV. I'm gonna hold
off on, you know, making sure my kids have food.
I'm gonna hold off on some of these other things.
All right, We're paying for the kids food. But we're
maybe we're not going to Disney, you know, that's it.
(01:42):
We're not going to Lego Land. We're not doing a
spring break trip. We're doing a spring break hike to
seven to eleven. You know, California does not have a
competitive tax intet up in place to bring new projects back.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Lawmakers trying to stop runaway production have proposed to increase
California's film and TV tax credit by more than fifty percent,
aligning with Governor Newsom's plan to double the program's funding
to seven hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Wow, that is a lot of tax credit. The seven
hundred and fifty million dollars is money we could use.
But then again, if they're all going away, we're not
getting any of it, right, I mean, that's the balance
between economic development.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Some might call it a handout to big film.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Manning believes California still has an ace up ats sleep.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
What is it?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
The fact that it's sunny pretty much every day.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
You can predict if it's gonna be terrible, and it
never really is.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Absolutely that you.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Can't find anywhere. You can't find that in Atlanta. I
know for sure, you can't find that in Oklahoma.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
I pray, I hope you know.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
And every day just keep stepping forward and preparing in
any which ways that I can to have other income
to help supplement it, to see what this new landscape is.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh, man, you're gonna have a lot of uber drivers
out there. Oh I'm a stunt person actor slash uber driver.
But then who's gonna need a ride if nobody's got
a job.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
California lawmakers are proposing a thirty five percent tax credit
for local productions. Georgia, which has drawn so much away,
So much of that filming away has a thirty percent credit.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, all right, Ted, appreciate it, thank you. Okay. So
a couple of things. One we talk about balance.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So where's the balance when it comes to the tax
credits versus the weather? Is it worth paying thirty percent
more on your film if you can just about guarantee.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
That the weather is going to be nice? I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Depends on the price of your film, depends on you know,
what your schedule looks like, what's your other production costs are.
But if you go to Georgia, you get thirty percent
off the top and you can hope for good weather
and if it's bad, are you out anything?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The whole deal with Georgia. I brought this up. My
son works.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
He works for or the State of Arizona actually, and
he's in kind of the film. Oh, it's part of
their tourism bracket.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Anyway. He does all the permitting and that sort of stuff.
That's that's his thing.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
In other words, he works in film, but he's doing
the boring part. So he tries to help with the
site selection, permitting, working with city leaders and whatever the
site is, that kind of stuff, and He and I
were talking about this and he says, you know, film
production is down. It's down here, We're down. And I said,
I know it's down. It's down here in California too.
(04:35):
And I said, they're all going to Georgia and he
said no. I said, what do you mean. No. He
says a lot of them are just going internationally. And
I didn't realize that. He says, Georgie is not as
big a competitor as you might think. You hear about
Georgia all the time. He says, well, a lot of
a lot of the productions that we're not getting are
going to international locations. I thought, man, that seems expensive
(04:56):
to auld the whole crew to a different location. He says, mmm,
you can find international actors. You know, you're not doing
a high budget thing. You find international actors, you find
an international crew. You said, internationals where they're they're losing
a lot of their business. I thought that was really interesting,
because you know, we hear all of these other states
that are that are competing and they're offering these tax breaks,
(05:17):
but are they really making a lot of money. I mean,
they might be getting some shows done where they are,
but are they are they really stealing the entire film industry.
I don't know that that's the case. I thought that
was a that was a perspective I hadn't heard before,
so I was glad to hear that. As far as
where you're watching the film, if you have watched Netflix,
(05:40):
you know that Netflix has done an awful lot with
international production, international shows.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Netflix is doing a bunch with that kind of stuff.
And Netflix, of course has the money to spend, but
they're going, we can take this show, we can buy
it from Spain and we can have a moderate hit
in the United States.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We can throw.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Subtitles on this Danish detective show and we can get
that streamed a few million times.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Doesn't cost them nearly as much. That made sense to me.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I was looking at some of the streaming numbers too,
and broadcast TV.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Not great, not great.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Cable TV continues, it's slow decline, streaming slow incline. So
streaming accounts for forty almost forty four percent of our
total TV consumption right now.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, count me among that.
Speaker 8 (06:40):
Do you do like the subtitle shows anything?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I have in the past, but it has to be
a really compelling what do you call that? Then? Whatever
the paragraph the elevator speech is right whatever that If
it's really compelling, I might give it a shot and
then I'll watch. And I've seen some of them that
are pretty good, you know. Oddly enough, my father likes
(07:06):
that stuff. And my father is not generally somebody who's like,
I'm gonna go check out this indie film from Norway.
But he finds himself watching a lot of that stuff,
which really surprised me, and it kind of opened my
eyes to that availability. That look, they can get my
dad to start watching that, there's gonna be a lot
of other people watching it.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Why does it bother you to have all those subtitles?
Speaker 8 (07:28):
I feel like younger generations might not be into the
reading the subtitles. I feel like older gen X and
like your dad doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Understand how you come to that conclusion, But younger generations
like having the close captioning on.
Speaker 9 (07:41):
As a millennial, the youngest person here, I cannot watch
TV or anything without subtitles. They might as well speaking
a different language. Wait a minute, if they are hold on,
if the subtitles are off, I cannot understand what's happening.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh yeah, yah.
Speaker 9 (07:57):
Subtitles in order to even if it's like an English
show like it could be Friends. I need the subtitles
to understand what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, once you start getting used to it, then you
realize how much you've been missing exactly right, like your ears,
if you don't process exactly what's being said, you just
skip over the joke or whatever that thing is, and
you just allow, you know, you just allow the thing
to play out. But then when you've got the subtitles,
you go, oh, I get that. Oh now I understand.
Oh they said this. I do the same thing. My
(08:25):
wife and I turned subtitles on about I don't know
five or ten years ago. Felt like old people, which
we are. But now if the subtitles aren't on, then
I feel naked. Do you know where I don't like
using subtitles. If I'm on an airplane because I'm yes,
because I got my headphones in and I'm always worried
that the person next to me is looking over and
(08:47):
they see swear words and don't want the person next
to me to go, oh, he's watching that terrible show
and public airplane.
Speaker 9 (08:55):
Yeah they judge, Yeah they shame you all right off
the flight, Yeah they would.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
How about this one? Did you say it, Wink Martindale,
Dine Kelly, do you know who Wink Martin Dale is?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Now?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
He was? I think I'm going to put him on
the Mount Rushmore of game show hosts. Wait, thank you
very much to say Williams, Good morning everybody. Wink Martindale
was the host of Gambit.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He also hosted one of the versions of the popular
tic Tech dough I love Tiktac Dough.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Once again, Ron on this show has nobody in the audience,
so he needs some good advice from you good people
out here.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And the later version of high Rollers.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
When a Cow stands up, which end Rice first.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I came out here in nineteen fifty nine, and I've
either produced or hosted twenty one different game shows, and
I've been a DJ all my life.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So that sort of wraps up my career in ten.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Seconds there it is, so Weink Martindale passing away. I
spent a lot of sick days watching Wink Martin Dale
and am.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I right on this? Roald?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Do you remember it was was it USA network that
used to have the old game shows on? Yeah, from
back in the eighties and nineties, yep, I was we
were having this conversation around my my real job this week,
and one of the guys younger. I mean, you know
these young guys, they think they know everything. They're like
Kayla's age. And he says, who's the best game show
(10:26):
host of all time? And why is it Alex Trebek?
And I'm like, ooh, I'm going to disagree with you
on that one, and he got mad at me.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
He's like, no, there is no disagreement. Alex Trebeck is
the greatest game show host of all time.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Ago, Alex Trebek is absolutely in the conversation. I got
to give the nod to Bob Barker me too, Yeah,
I mean, from Truth or Consequences to appearances on Match
Game to the years on the Price is Right, I
got to give it to Bob Barker. And I look,
I watched I watched Alex Trebek when he did Classic
(10:59):
Concentrate and then obviously Jeopardy for years. Alex Trebek deserves
to be in that conversation. But if I got to
pick one, I'm taking Bob Barker. Now, this whipper snapper
probably I don't know, twenty four, twenty six years old,
something like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But then I bring up Wink Martindale, I bring up
Gene Rayburn, I bring up some of these others, and
he has no idea what I'm talking about, no idea,
so he didn't know what he was talking about.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
I mean, in Wink, his best friend was not best friend,
but one of his good friends was Elvis. Like, come on,
that tells you where that's awesome, right, yeah, come.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
On, that's influence. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, So I'm gonna put Wink Martindale on the Mount Rushmore.
But uh, well, I don't even know if I put
him on Mount Rushmore. K Martin Dale's in the conversation
for the Mount Rushmore of game show hosts, but Bob
Barker number one, Trebek probably one A or two.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, That's where I'm going with it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
By the way, if you disagree, feel free to hit
us up on the talkback on the iHeartRadio app. Let
us know, Merrill, you missed this one. That's fine, I'm
all for it. Love to have that conversation. Well continue,
There's no business like shelf business, including apologies and pushbacks
from your favorite celebrities.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
That is next.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Chris Merril Cafi Am six forty. We are alive everywhere
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and you'll find this show on demand of the featured segments.
The featured segments. Let's see when we were talking about
the economy just before Brigita's news there at six o'clock,
and somebody on the talkback had thoughts, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (12:49):
Hey there, I'm not worried about the economy at all.
I'm not worried about the tariffs. I just bought a
new car. I paid attention to the stock market, and
when it took a dump, yeah I saw that coming,
sold off a whole ton of crap and made eight
hundred thousand dollars in one day.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It's nice.
Speaker 10 (13:06):
Yeah, I'm not worried about the economy. This crap happens
all the time. You're just a fear monger or you're uninformed,
so yeah whatever, All right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So eight hundred thousand dollars in one day, maybe you
go buy a book on being polite.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I don't think we had to do name calling, all.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Right, As far as subtitles close captioning, Young Kayla is
with me, old Merrill and we both like it. Chris,
are you telling us you watch porn with subtitles?
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Dude, come on now, and that's it?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I mean, what do you do you want my wife
to hear it?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, especially when it said foreign, you know, the Russian stuff,
you know what I'm talking about now? Or even sometimes
the accents when the you know, the fake taxis, the
accent are just so British that I just I have
to have a little bit of I have to figure
out exactly what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Me.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
See.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh, how about this celebs in space? This time last
week we were talking about how celebrities were coming back
from space.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
They went up, they came down. It was a short trip.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Katy Perrydale King, what's the Sanchez is her last name?
What's her first name?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Is it? Lauren?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Jeff Bezos's la girlfriend, girlfriend or fiance. They went up
and then also a couple of a couple of scientists
went up and came down and went up, they got weightless.
They were up there for what ten or eleven minutes,
and then they came back down. Then Katy Perry got
out and she kissed the ground. They're all being very
dramatic and now the internet lost its mind. They're just
(14:49):
so upset, Laura, I said, Lauren Laura, Laura Sanchez, as
well as NASA rocket scientist Aisha Bo and bio astronautics
research scientists Amanda Win and a film producer as well.
Carrion Flynn is her name, but it doesn't matter. It
was Katie Perry and Gail King that went up and
for whatever reason, we just want to scream about that.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And how dare they so?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Now you've got celebrities that are coming out. Olivia Mond
not mincing words. She was co hosting on Today with
Janet and Friends and said, what are they doing? I
know this probably isn't the cool thing to say, but
there are so many other things that are so important
in the world right now. What's the point Is it
historic that you guys are going on a ride? I
think it's a bit gluttonous. Space exploration was to further
(15:35):
our knowledge and help mankind. What are they going to
do up there that has made it better for us
down here? Olivia Wilde, she said, let me see, she said,
getting off a commercial flight in twenty twenty five hashtag
blue Origin billion dollars bought some good memes. I guess, okay,
(16:00):
throwing shade as well. Why I'd love to see these
women supporting women. Amy Schumer is out there ripping on them. Ah. Yes,
women supporting women very good in all female flight. And
we can't wait until they get back down on the
ground so that we can hear about how terrible they
were for taking off in the first place. Here's what
this boils down to. You didn't go, and if you could,
(16:25):
you would. And if you wouldn't go up there, then
that's your decision.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
They did. What's the problem?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
If there are so many other more important things to
worry about, why aren't you.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
If that's your concern.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
If you're worried that Katy Perry is not focusing on
what's important. If Olivia Munn is worried that Gail King
and Katy Perry, there are so many more important things
in the world right now, Why are you wasting a
second of television time talking about it?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
If it's not important? Is your sin.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Any less sinful than theirs? They did what they wanted
to do. Awesome, go for it. What's the problem? How
about just be supportive. And if you don't think it
deserves all that attention, here's a wild idea. Don't give
it attention. Do you know how many stories I didn't
talk about today? Literally four times as many as what
(17:26):
we've got In fact, Cayla, you're looking at the show rundown,
I think I have five times as many stories that
we didn't even put into the notes today. Yeah, didn't
need to, got other things going on. But maybe there
was some tone deafness.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Maybe maybe the.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Putting on a show like Kitty Perry did just rubbed
people the wrong way. Maybe she's just learning it from
all of the influencers on TikTok who are now also
getting their own backlash. We'll tell you how not to
end fluence next. Chris Merril KFI AM six forty were
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Speaker 3 (18:08):
Good evening, Chris.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Merril KFI AM six forty on demand anytime in the
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tonight's program, which of course was full of fall to
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what we do. That's gonna be up on the featured
segments at KFI AM six forty dot com. Let me
(18:29):
see looking around. You know what I was. I was
watching Instagram. I was scrolling while I was on the toilet,
and I came across a video buy her very own
Brigidia Degastino.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And I have said this before.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I think if you are not following Brigitta, you should be,
cause she does great.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Thank you so much. I'm ramping it up. I'm changing course.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, listen, you did something this week that I thought
was really interesting. You took us behind, you took us
behind the scenes, and.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I'm going to have a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Are you That's cool?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I'm chan I'm you know, I'm embracing that everything online
should be like twenty seconds, So I'm going for it.
It's actually easier for me to prety.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
No, it was great. It's great. And you took us
behind the scenes a little bit, and so you showed us.
I mean you were showing us how you set up
the lighting and all this other stuff.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Also, oh yeah, I have an actual camera, not my
iPhone which I use as my prompter. But I couldn't
show that because I was filming with.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It because it was on right.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, and not only that, but we also got to
see inside your.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Home, which is beautiful.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Why thank you?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, at least the part that was on camera was
very clean. It's funny because I do videos. They're bad.
It might are just like one minute commentaries on dumb things,
and and I record it from my from my patio.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
It's fine, but my patios cluttered with all kinds of crap.
But you can't tell from the video.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
You know, you can download or you can like use
some kind of like filter things that have backgrounds, or
you can pre download backgrounds like cool ones.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
See that sounds advanced. I don't even know how to
edit video.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Okay, I'll send you some things.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I was telling Raoul about this and he was like,
he's like, bro, you gotta do use this program having
that program And I go, that sounds great.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
He goes, you already at it? Sound right? Yeah, I
can do that on the Whiz and he says it
won't be a problem for you.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Still like, you just use iPhone apps, then you're not
getting technical at all.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Thumbs are too fat for that.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I mean, I hear that.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I try to crop things and it's just all over
the place, terrible at it anyway. I say this because
in this video where you were taking us behind the scenes,
you were showing us that you know, it's not just
news anymore. Everybody is an influencer. Now you have to
be an influencer.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
I cringe, but it's the truth. If you want to.
I'm finding for my livelihood here.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
How do you do that as a newsperson, Well, where
you're also yeah, where you're a journalist, but you're also
trying to maintain some integrity because that.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Was always the rule of the Really grand is still
as journalist, and you know, the industry is evolving and
we've got to evolve too. I mean, look at everything
that's even happened here at KFI.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, I agree, But what happens when you're doing a
story about one of your clients.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Well, I don't have any clients. I am my client,
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But if you become an influencer and somebody goes, oh, Brigietta,
we love your work, we want.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
To sponsor you, I will say, give me the money.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Show me the money, and it's like, uh, I think.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
You just have to maintain your integrity whatever your brand is,
or be just fully transparent. Hey, this person is sending
me money. They're a sponsor.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, which we do see sometimes when Washington Post will
do an article about Amazon, they always say, you know,
Amazon is owned by Jeff Bezos, who is the owner
of the Washington Post or something.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Right. But I'm just wondering, like, you know, because I'm
with you, I'm a sellout. I will take whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But I'm just imagining that all of a sudden, you've
got to do a story where you're like, you know this,
crazy things happening.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Oh, we're at the best.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Dealership in southern California, Hammas Motors. Hamas Motors has got
the deals you've been looking for. Hammas Motors will blow
the competition out of the water.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It seems really awkward that you might end up in
that sort of situation. The other thing that I think
is interesting. I was reading this article that Axios had,
and I was talking about influencers on these different sales
platforms who have pushed it too far, especially the ones
that went to Coachella. Adelaine Moran, a creator with one
point one million followers, posting a TikTok detailing her thousand
(22:15):
dollars dinner at No Boo on the Coachella Festival grounds.
Top comments reads would I ever girl? I can barely
afford rent? Another one, with half a million followers, telling
the audience she spends two thousand dollars a week on
caviare some commenters defending her, others saying skip caviar next week,
pay my rent, or thanks for teaching us peasants. It
(22:36):
is interesting when there's a disconnect, and this becomes very
obvious too, when you have somebody who's new money. So
my wife worked for a biotech firm. It was in
that biotech It was a laboratory, I guess it was
based in San Diego. And he used to drive her
crazy because she made okay money. But she'd look out
(22:59):
and the owner would blow in three times a week
driving in this brand new Ferrari, never a spot a
dert on it either, and he'd always come whizzing into
the parking lot, whip it into his designated parking spot,
which was closer than the handicapped parking and then he
comes strolling into the building and she said it just
used to drive her nuts.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
There are people there that were.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Struggling at home, and here he is whipping around and
showing it off. I mean, there's there's got to be
a limit. There's gotta be some humility here, like act
like you've been there before.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Am I wrong? Am I? Am?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I being bitter? Because I've had endorsements. I know what
being an influencer is. And there's two ways to go
about it. One you play it cool, or two you
make it over the top. I would say, and I've
used to do this before too, I'd talk about this
and I make so much money, I don't care what
you people say, like I'm I make four point one
four million dollars a year and that's before my bonuses.
(23:51):
And I used to say nonsense like that, which was
so obviously over the top. But then the other way
to do it is just be demrror, be classy. And
it seems like these influencers haven't figured that out yet.
Is that an Is that just an experience?
Speaker 7 (24:03):
I think it's just the media landscape. The louder and
more like crazy you are, the more attention you get.
Therefore you get more money. We need more media literacy
and yeah, I don't know, it's a whole commentary that
I can.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But once you get the money, do you need to
show it out. I mean, do you need to flaunt
that to your to the people who are supporting you.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Oh, I don't know. I think that's weird.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It is weird.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
By the way, Chris, I heard that Brigitta is going
to fight Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
What go on?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah? How did you work where diamond study gloves? That'd
be great. Yeah, Oh my gosh, that would be huge.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
I would lose.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Nah, I don't know. I saw his last fight. You
might have a chance. Yeah, you got I mean you
move around pretty well. Yeah, just stay on your toes,
float a little bit. He just moves in circles. He
get dizzy quick and fall over. I was I was
really disappointed that last fight he had, the Jake Paul fight.
I think you could take him.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Could you kill the goat? And like you know, athletes
old age come on.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
The money, though, Brigitta, you'd get you'd get paid. You
get paid.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
I mean, okay, sign me up, guys. You heard it here.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
First, Ye you get paid.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Besides, I mean, even if he did beat you, what
would be like one punch you hit the mat.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You're good. Cash I check, girl, cash it all right.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It is a new trend in dating it's called flood lighting.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Oh god, do we have U.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Gen z?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Stop renaming things? All right? What is flood lighting? That's next?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
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Speaker 7 (27:02):
I'll maybe I'll do my next video that's like how
to make videos for journalists, and then you can you know,
that's good advice.
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I'm just intimidated by the software, just like how do
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then if I do know how to do it, then
that makes it.
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Speaker 2 (27:32):
Dark start to second, Doctor Wendy, I learned a new term,
What's it? And I think this is another one of
those terms where people are just they're just renaming things
that have been around for a long time. It's the
new dating trend and it's called floodlighting. Have you heard
of flood lighting?
Speaker 7 (27:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Okay, well you've definitely heard of this. And it's sharing
too much too soon.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
We call that trauma dumping.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Oh I like trauma dumping is way bad. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Us.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Flood Lighting, they say, is when you share highly personal,
often emotional details about yourself early in a relationship, before
trust and intimacy have been established.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I have a friend who.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Does this, and he says they need to know up
front so that they're not wasting their time, and I'm
not wasting my time on them.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
They need to know, and I'm just like, whoah, maybe
you don't want to hit them with everything.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
That's what it is.
Speaker 11 (28:23):
Because I like the idea of growing intimacy by talking
about real stuff. But if it is too much real stuff,
or the real stuff is stuff that you haven't processed,
you know. I always say, we will never feel ashamed
of anything unless we haven't processed it. Once we've processed it,
(28:44):
we can get out in front of the story and
tell it our way, whatever it is that we did.
But shame comes when we still haven't finished processing it,
and then someone else, you know, gazes on us, gives
us that look yeah, we tell yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And then it gives them the power to right. It's
like you're seeding the power when you don't process it right.
Speaker 11 (29:03):
But there's ways of explaining bumps in life in a way. Yeah,
in a way that shows that you've done the work,
you grew from it, you learn from it, and it
comes off as confident.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, I've had that sometimes.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
They Sometimes people think I should have shame for things
I've done in the past.
Speaker 11 (29:21):
Oh, me too, But that's because you and I are
extrovertsed and we process externally, so we say things that
most people only think.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Oh okay, how soon is too soon in a relationship
to to do things? For instance, now, fortunately I'm married,
and so the stuff I'm going to reveal my wife
had to deal with because it came about during our marriage.
But for instance, say something weld happen to my wife
and I have to re enter the dating scene. How
soon is too soon to say I have a seapap
and I'm highly embarrassed by that. So if ever you
(29:48):
sleep over, just don't look at me.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Is that too soon?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
That's a first way to say it. First of all, I.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Hate that thing, but I have to have it.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Otherwise you're going to die bapnia or something.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
That's what the doctors say.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Yeah, you know what, I think.
Speaker 11 (30:04):
I made the mistake of going on a women's wine
tasting weekend in January, sharing a room with a cardiologist
girl and that girl at breakfast. You were there, Kayla
out in Temechila. That girl at breakfast told me that
I need to go see a pulmonologist for my snoring
and that I probably could die from sleep apnea.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
I was like, I don't want to sleep. I don't
want to sleep anywhere near a cardiologist. Again they give
you such bad news.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
She may have saved your life.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
You could look at it that way. I didn't know
I snored, okay, except Julio told me. But he's a
New Yorker and he says, just background noise to him.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Oh yes, he's a New Yorker.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Better than the sirens and gunshots, so let's fight with it.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Better than the train going by.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
So yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
No, So I might be.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
There with you.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
So maybe after you guys divorce, you and I could
date and we could have our matching.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, the thing is, I think my wife needs one too,
but she does not want to go get one either, so.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
But she's losing her hearing, so it kind of works out. See.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's marriage is give and take. I give snoring, she
gives away her hearing, and then.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Everything's fine, quite compatible.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I think, so great, I'm her ying to my yang
or something. That's yeah, that's how it works, all right.
So so process your own your own stuff first, and
then what when it comes up?
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Organic ay to be open about something, but if you
haven't fully processed it, then don't be open about it
yet and go processe it with a therapist.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And what if you're what if you're dating somebody and
you need to know Listen, I got kids and my
ex is crazy, so she shows up.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Stuff like that is important.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
But I do want to say that nobody looks kindly
on somebody on a first date who says they have
a crazy X because it makes us immediately think sorry.
If we're women and the men are saying it, and
one hundred percent of the men like to say it,
the first thing a woman thinks is.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
What did he do? Would you make her crazy?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Right?
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Yeah, not a thing not a polite thing.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
To say, because women support women unless it's Katie Perry
going to space, and then women can't wait to care.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Katie.
Speaker 11 (32:02):
What you do is you get your other friends to
whisper it, to hurt later, so that you're never the
one bad mouth in your ex. But then the other
friends come up and go, by the way, you're the
craziest x.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh plant the news story.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Yeah, and then it feels really real.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Because she heard it from a trusted source. Yep, yep,
you are can I I'm fly, I love it.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
I'm sly, That's what I am.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This is why we listen to Doctor Wendy after dark
starting at seven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Have a great show, Doctor Wendy. What do you have
coming up? Aside from obviously the Assis giving, there's.
Speaker 11 (32:34):
A new study, of course, there's a study on everything.
What romantic chemistry actually is. We're going to talk about
it as well as can chat box satisfy our human
need for belonging? We all have a need for belonging.
And then also do you ever get that new relationship energy?
(32:54):
What is it and how long does it last? And
is it good or bad? It's like the honeymoon face
is there. It feels should feels good. There's some good
and bad. We're gonna talk about it. And then I
have a really special guest on the show tonight. I'm
fangirling tonight, co host of the podcast Love Factually, doctor
Paul Eastwick from UC California, Davis U see Davis. There
(33:16):
we go h He runs the Attraction and Relationships Research Laboratory,
and but that he and his partner also have this
really cool podcast where they break down rom comms and
talk about what's possible in the real world and what
isn't and apparently some rom comms get things right.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I love that fangirl geek out over that stuff. That
sounds great.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
I'm so excited to me all right, I'm looking forward
for Paul, Doctor Paul coming.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Up, Doctor Wendy After Dark starts right after Briginia gives
us news at seven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I have a great one.
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I'm back next Sunday. Chris merrilf I AM six forty.
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Merril am six forty more stimulating talk.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
And there's no business life, business and a girl. And
let me see where are we starting here.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Let's start with Oh, you know, we've been talking about
some of the national stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We were talking about the economy. How about this. We
got tariff trouble in Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You've heard the stories about how we're waiting for production
to come back and it's not coming back, and people
are worried, and we've got jobs that are being lost
and it is a significant situation.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
How are the tariffs gonna play in to that?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
At a recent stunt performers workshop, after and stunt performer
Kim Manning says they were told this about their future
job prospects.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Literally, the very first thing that they said when the
meeting got started was well, everyone needs to consider getting
in a day job.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Those Polak assessments have been compounding in recent weeks, Film
LA reporting a twenty two percent decline in local shoots
in the first quarter of the year after one of
the worst years ever for film and TV production in California.
The new terrorists from the Trump administration are also worrying
Hollywood executives. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Warner Discovery CEO
David Zaslav told staffers to reduce discretionary spending because of
(01:13):
quote market volatility, oh oh, and reduced consumer confidence.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, cut your discretionary spending.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Other words, start saving, which a lot of us are
doing already, because we're concerned with the market, right, I mean,
we're concerned with the economy, and so we go. I'm
gonna hold off on that new TV. I'm gonna hold
off on, you know, making sure my kids have food.
I'm gonna hold off on some of these other things.
All right, We're paying for the kids food. But we're
maybe we're not going to Disney, you know, that's it.
(01:42):
We're not going to Lego Land. We're not doing a
spring break trip. We're doing a spring break hike to
seven to eleven. You know, California does not have a
competitive tax intet up in place to bring new projects back.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Lawmakers trying to stop runaway production have proposed to increase
California's film and TV tax credit by more than fifty percent,
aligning with Governor Newsom's plan to double the program's funding
to seven hundred and fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Wow, that is a lot of tax credit. The seven
hundred and fifty million dollars is money we could use.
But then again, if they're all going away, we're not
getting any of it, right, I mean, that's the balance
between economic development.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Some might call it a handout to big film.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Manning believes California still has an ace up ats sleep.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
What is it?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
The fact that it's sunny pretty much every day.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
You can predict if it's gonna be terrible, and it
never really is.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Absolutely that you.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Can't find anywhere. You can't find that in Atlanta. I
know for sure, you can't find that in Oklahoma.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
I pray, I hope you know.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
And every day just keep stepping forward and preparing in
any which ways that I can to have other income
to help supplement it, to see what this new landscape is.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh, man, you're gonna have a lot of uber drivers
out there. Oh I'm a stunt person actor slash uber driver.
But then who's gonna need a ride if nobody's got
a job.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
California lawmakers are proposing a thirty five percent tax credit
for local productions. Georgia, which has drawn so much away,
So much of that filming away has a thirty percent credit.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, all right, Ted, appreciate it, thank you. Okay. So
a couple of things. One we talk about balance.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So where's the balance when it comes to the tax
credits versus the weather? Is it worth paying thirty percent
more on your film if you can just about guarantee.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
That the weather is going to be nice? I mean,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Depends on the price of your film, depends on you know,
what your schedule looks like, what's your other production costs are.
But if you go to Georgia, you get thirty percent
off the top and you can hope for good weather
and if it's bad, are you out anything?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The whole deal with Georgia. I brought this up. My
son works.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
He works for or the State of Arizona actually, and
he's in kind of the film. Oh, it's part of
their tourism bracket.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Anyway. He does all the permitting and that sort of stuff.
That's that's his thing.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
In other words, he works in film, but he's doing
the boring part. So he tries to help with the
site selection, permitting, working with city leaders and whatever the
site is, that kind of stuff, and He and I
were talking about this and he says, you know, film
production is down. It's down here, We're down. And I said,
I know it's down. It's down here in California too.
(04:35):
And I said, they're all going to Georgia and he
said no. I said, what do you mean. No. He
says a lot of them are just going internationally. And
I didn't realize that. He says, Georgie is not as
big a competitor as you might think. You hear about
Georgia all the time. He says, well, a lot of
a lot of the productions that we're not getting are
going to international locations. I thought, man, that seems expensive
(04:56):
to auld the whole crew to a different location. He says, mmm,
you can find international actors. You know, you're not doing
a high budget thing. You find international actors, you find
an international crew. You said, internationals where they're they're losing
a lot of their business. I thought that was really interesting,
because you know, we hear all of these other states
that are that are competing and they're offering these tax breaks,
(05:17):
but are they really making a lot of money. I mean,
they might be getting some shows done where they are,
but are they are they really stealing the entire film industry.
I don't know that that's the case. I thought that
was a that was a perspective I hadn't heard before,
so I was glad to hear that. As far as
where you're watching the film, if you have watched Netflix,
(05:40):
you know that Netflix has done an awful lot with
international production, international shows.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Netflix is doing a bunch with that kind of stuff.
And Netflix, of course has the money to spend, but
they're going, we can take this show, we can buy
it from Spain and we can have a moderate hit
in the United States.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We can throw.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Subtitles on this Danish detective show and we can get
that streamed a few million times.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Doesn't cost them nearly as much. That made sense to me.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I was looking at some of the streaming numbers too,
and broadcast TV.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Not great, not great.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Cable TV continues, it's slow decline, streaming slow incline. So
streaming accounts for forty almost forty four percent of our
total TV consumption right now.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, count me among that.
Speaker 8 (06:40):
Do you do like the subtitle shows anything?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I have in the past, but it has to be
a really compelling what do you call that? Then? Whatever
the paragraph the elevator speech is right whatever that If
it's really compelling, I might give it a shot and
then I'll watch. And I've seen some of them that
are pretty good, you know. Oddly enough, my father likes
(07:06):
that stuff. And my father is not generally somebody who's like,
I'm gonna go check out this indie film from Norway.
But he finds himself watching a lot of that stuff,
which really surprised me, and it kind of opened my
eyes to that availability. That look, they can get my
dad to start watching that, there's gonna be a lot
of other people watching it.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Why does it bother you to have all those subtitles?
Speaker 8 (07:28):
I feel like younger generations might not be into the
reading the subtitles. I feel like older gen X and
like your dad doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Understand how you come to that conclusion, But younger generations
like having the close captioning on.
Speaker 9 (07:41):
As a millennial, the youngest person here, I cannot watch
TV or anything without subtitles. They might as well speaking
a different language. Wait a minute, if they are hold on,
if the subtitles are off, I cannot understand what's happening.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh yeah, yah.
Speaker 9 (07:57):
Subtitles in order to even if it's like an English
show like it could be Friends. I need the subtitles
to understand what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, once you start getting used to it, then you
realize how much you've been missing exactly right, like your ears,
if you don't process exactly what's being said, you just
skip over the joke or whatever that thing is, and
you just allow, you know, you just allow the thing
to play out. But then when you've got the subtitles,
you go, oh, I get that. Oh now I understand.
Oh they said this. I do the same thing. My
(08:25):
wife and I turned subtitles on about I don't know
five or ten years ago. Felt like old people, which
we are. But now if the subtitles aren't on, then
I feel naked. Do you know where I don't like
using subtitles. If I'm on an airplane because I'm yes,
because I got my headphones in and I'm always worried
that the person next to me is looking over and
(08:47):
they see swear words and don't want the person next
to me to go, oh, he's watching that terrible show
and public airplane.
Speaker 9 (08:55):
Yeah they judge, Yeah they shame you all right off
the flight, Yeah they would.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
How about this one? Did you say it, Wink Martindale,
Dine Kelly, do you know who Wink Martin Dale is?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Now?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
He was? I think I'm going to put him on
the Mount Rushmore of game show hosts. Wait, thank you
very much to say Williams, Good morning everybody. Wink Martindale
was the host of Gambit.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
He also hosted one of the versions of the popular
tic Tech dough I love Tiktac Dough.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Once again, Ron on this show has nobody in the audience,
so he needs some good advice from you good people
out here.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And the later version of high Rollers.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
When a Cow stands up, which end Rice first.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I came out here in nineteen fifty nine, and I've
either produced or hosted twenty one different game shows, and
I've been a DJ all my life.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So that sort of wraps up my career in ten.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Seconds there it is, so Weink Martindale passing away. I
spent a lot of sick days watching Wink Martin Dale
and am.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I right on this? Roald?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Do you remember it was was it USA network that
used to have the old game shows on? Yeah, from
back in the eighties and nineties, yep, I was we
were having this conversation around my my real job this week,
and one of the guys younger. I mean, you know
these young guys, they think they know everything. They're like
Kayla's age. And he says, who's the best game show
(10:26):
host of all time? And why is it Alex Trebek?
And I'm like, ooh, I'm going to disagree with you
on that one, and he got mad at me.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
He's like, no, there is no disagreement. Alex Trebeck is
the greatest game show host of all time.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Ago, Alex Trebek is absolutely in the conversation. I got
to give the nod to Bob Barker me too, Yeah,
I mean, from Truth or Consequences to appearances on Match
Game to the years on the Price is Right, I
got to give it to Bob Barker. And I look,
I watched I watched Alex Trebek when he did Classic
(10:59):
Concentrate and then obviously Jeopardy for years. Alex Trebek deserves
to be in that conversation. But if I got to
pick one, I'm taking Bob Barker. Now, this whipper snapper
probably I don't know, twenty four, twenty six years old,
something like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, you don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
But then I bring up Wink Martindale, I bring up
Gene Rayburn, I bring up some of these others, and
he has no idea what I'm talking about, no idea,
so he didn't know what he was talking about.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
I mean, in Wink, his best friend was not best friend,
but one of his good friends was Elvis. Like, come on,
that tells you where that's awesome, right, yeah, come.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
On, that's influence. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, So I'm gonna put Wink Martindale on the Mount Rushmore.
But uh, well, I don't even know if I put
him on Mount Rushmore. K Martin Dale's in the conversation
for the Mount Rushmore of game show hosts, but Bob
Barker number one, Trebek probably one A or two.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, That's where I'm going with it.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
By the way, if you disagree, feel free to hit
us up on the talkback on the iHeartRadio app. Let
us know, Merrill, you missed this one. That's fine, I'm
all for it. Love to have that conversation. Well continue,
There's no business like shelf business, including apologies and pushbacks
from your favorite celebrities.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
That is next.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
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and you'll find this show on demand of the featured segments.
The featured segments. Let's see when we were talking about
the economy just before Brigita's news there at six o'clock,
and somebody on the talkback had thoughts, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (12:49):
Hey there, I'm not worried about the economy at all.
I'm not worried about the tariffs. I just bought a
new car. I paid attention to the stock market, and
when it took a dump, yeah I saw that coming,
sold off a whole ton of crap and made eight
hundred thousand dollars in one day.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
It's nice.
Speaker 10 (13:06):
Yeah, I'm not worried about the economy. This crap happens
all the time. You're just a fear monger or you're uninformed,
so yeah whatever, All right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So eight hundred thousand dollars in one day, maybe you
go buy a book on being polite.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I don't think we had to do name calling, all.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Right, As far as subtitles close captioning, Young Kayla is
with me, old Merrill and we both like it. Chris,
are you telling us you watch porn with subtitles?
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Dude, come on now, and that's it?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I mean, what do you do you want my wife
to hear it?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, especially when it said foreign, you know, the Russian stuff,
you know what I'm talking about now? Or even sometimes
the accents when the you know, the fake taxis, the
accent are just so British that I just I have
to have a little bit of I have to figure
out exactly what they're saying.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Me.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
See.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh, how about this celebs in space? This time last
week we were talking about how celebrities were coming back
from space.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
They went up, they came down. It was a short trip.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Katy Perrydale King, what's the Sanchez is her last name?
What's her first name?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Is it? Lauren?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Jeff Bezos's la girlfriend, girlfriend or fiance. They went up
and then also a couple of a couple of scientists
went up and came down and went up, they got weightless.
They were up there for what ten or eleven minutes,
and then they came back down. Then Katy Perry got
out and she kissed the ground. They're all being very
dramatic and now the internet lost its mind. They're just
(14:49):
so upset, Laura, I said, Lauren Laura, Laura Sanchez, as
well as NASA rocket scientist Aisha Bo and bio astronautics
research scientists Amanda Win and a film producer as well.
Carrion Flynn is her name, but it doesn't matter. It
was Katie Perry and Gail King that went up and
for whatever reason, we just want to scream about that.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And how dare they so?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Now you've got celebrities that are coming out. Olivia Mond
not mincing words. She was co hosting on Today with
Janet and Friends and said, what are they doing? I
know this probably isn't the cool thing to say, but
there are so many other things that are so important
in the world right now. What's the point Is it
historic that you guys are going on a ride? I
think it's a bit gluttonous. Space exploration was to further
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our knowledge and help mankind. What are they going to
do up there that has made it better for us
down here? Olivia Wilde, she said, let me see, she said,
getting off a commercial flight in twenty twenty five hashtag
blue Origin billion dollars bought some good memes. I guess, okay,
(16:00):
throwing shade as well. Why I'd love to see these
women supporting women. Amy Schumer is out there ripping on them. Ah. Yes,
women supporting women very good in all female flight. And
we can't wait until they get back down on the
ground so that we can hear about how terrible they
were for taking off in the first place. Here's what
this boils down to. You didn't go, and if you could,
(16:25):
you would. And if you wouldn't go up there, then
that's your decision.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
They did. What's the problem?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
If there are so many other more important things to
worry about, why aren't you.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
If that's your concern.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
If you're worried that Katy Perry is not focusing on
what's important. If Olivia Munn is worried that Gail King
and Katy Perry, there are so many more important things
in the world right now, Why are you wasting a
second of television time talking about it?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
If it's not important? Is your sin.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Any less sinful than theirs? They did what they wanted
to do. Awesome, go for it. What's the problem? How
about just be supportive. And if you don't think it
deserves all that attention, here's a wild idea. Don't give
it attention. Do you know how many stories I didn't
talk about today? Literally four times as many as what
(17:26):
we've got In fact, Cayla, you're looking at the show rundown,
I think I have five times as many stories that
we didn't even put into the notes today. Yeah, didn't
need to, got other things going on. But maybe there
was some tone deafness.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Maybe maybe the.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Putting on a show like Kitty Perry did just rubbed
people the wrong way. Maybe she's just learning it from
all of the influencers on TikTok who are now also
getting their own backlash. We'll tell you how not to
end fluence next. Chris Merril KFI AM six forty were
live everywhere on the iHeart Radio app.
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Speaker 3 (18:08):
Good evening, Chris.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Merril KFI AM six forty on demand anytime in the
I Hurt Radio app, and you'll find the podcast for
tonight's program, which of course was full of fall to
roll and pissing people off, which is a little bit
what we do. That's gonna be up on the featured
segments at KFI AM six forty dot com. Let me
(18:29):
see looking around. You know what I was. I was
watching Instagram. I was scrolling while I was on the toilet,
and I came across a video buy her very own
Brigidia Degastino.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And I have said this before.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I think if you are not following Brigitta, you should be,
cause she does great.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Thank you so much. I'm ramping it up. I'm changing course.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, listen, you did something this week that I thought
was really interesting. You took us behind, you took us
behind the scenes, and.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
I'm going to have a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Are you That's cool?
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I'm chan I'm you know, I'm embracing that everything online
should be like twenty seconds, So I'm going for it.
It's actually easier for me to prety.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
No, it was great. It's great. And you took us
behind the scenes a little bit, and so you showed us.
I mean you were showing us how you set up
the lighting and all this other stuff.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Also, oh yeah, I have an actual camera, not my
iPhone which I use as my prompter. But I couldn't
show that because I was filming with.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It because it was on right.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, and not only that, but we also got to
see inside your.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Home, which is beautiful.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Why thank you?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, at least the part that was on camera was
very clean. It's funny because I do videos. They're bad.
It might are just like one minute commentaries on dumb things,
and and I record it from my from my patio.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
It's fine, but my patios cluttered with all kinds of crap.
But you can't tell from the video.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
You know, you can download or you can like use
some kind of like filter things that have backgrounds, or
you can pre download backgrounds like cool ones.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
See that sounds advanced. I don't even know how to
edit video.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Okay, I'll send you some things.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I was telling Raoul about this and he was like,
he's like, bro, you gotta do use this program having
that program And I go, that sounds great.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
He goes, you already at it? Sound right? Yeah, I
can do that on the Whiz and he says it
won't be a problem for you.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Still like, you just use iPhone apps, then you're not
getting technical at all.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Thumbs are too fat for that.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I mean, I hear that.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I try to crop things and it's just all over
the place, terrible at it anyway. I say this because
in this video where you were taking us behind the scenes,
you were showing us that you know, it's not just
news anymore. Everybody is an influencer. Now you have to
be an influencer.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
I cringe, but it's the truth. If you want to.
I'm finding for my livelihood here.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
How do you do that as a newsperson, Well, where
you're also yeah, where you're a journalist, but you're also
trying to maintain some integrity because that.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Was always the rule of the Really grand is still
as journalist, and you know, the industry is evolving and
we've got to evolve too. I mean, look at everything
that's even happened here at KFI.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, I agree, But what happens when you're doing a
story about one of your clients.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
Well, I don't have any clients. I am my client,
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But if you become an influencer and somebody goes, oh, Brigietta,
we love your work, we want.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
To sponsor you, I will say, give me the money.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Show me the money, and it's like, uh, I think.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
You just have to maintain your integrity whatever your brand is,
or be just fully transparent. Hey, this person is sending
me money. They're a sponsor.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, which we do see sometimes when Washington Post will
do an article about Amazon, they always say, you know,
Amazon is owned by Jeff Bezos, who is the owner
of the Washington Post or something.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Right. But I'm just wondering, like, you know, because I'm
with you, I'm a sellout. I will take whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
But I'm just imagining that all of a sudden, you've
got to do a story where you're like, you know this,
crazy things happening.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Oh, we're at the best.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Dealership in southern California, Hammas Motors. Hamas Motors has got
the deals you've been looking for. Hammas Motors will blow
the competition out of the water.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It seems really awkward that you might end up in
that sort of situation. The other thing that I think
is interesting. I was reading this article that Axios had,
and I was talking about influencers on these different sales
platforms who have pushed it too far, especially the ones
that went to Coachella. Adelaine Moran, a creator with one
point one million followers, posting a TikTok detailing her thousand
(22:15):
dollars dinner at No Boo on the Coachella Festival grounds.
Top comments reads would I ever girl? I can barely
afford rent? Another one, with half a million followers, telling
the audience she spends two thousand dollars a week on
caviare some commenters defending her, others saying skip caviar next week,
pay my rent, or thanks for teaching us peasants. It
(22:36):
is interesting when there's a disconnect, and this becomes very
obvious too, when you have somebody who's new money. So
my wife worked for a biotech firm. It was in
that biotech It was a laboratory, I guess it was
based in San Diego. And he used to drive her
crazy because she made okay money. But she'd look out
(22:59):
and the owner would blow in three times a week
driving in this brand new Ferrari, never a spot a
dert on it either, and he'd always come whizzing into
the parking lot, whip it into his designated parking spot,
which was closer than the handicapped parking and then he
comes strolling into the building and she said it just
used to drive her nuts.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
There are people there that were.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Struggling at home, and here he is whipping around and
showing it off. I mean, there's there's got to be
a limit. There's gotta be some humility here, like act
like you've been there before.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Am I wrong? Am I? Am?
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I being bitter? Because I've had endorsements. I know what
being an influencer is. And there's two ways to go
about it. One you play it cool, or two you
make it over the top. I would say, and I've
used to do this before too, I'd talk about this
and I make so much money, I don't care what
you people say, like I'm I make four point one
four million dollars a year and that's before my bonuses.
(23:51):
And I used to say nonsense like that, which was
so obviously over the top. But then the other way
to do it is just be demrror, be classy. And
it seems like these influencers haven't figured that out yet.
Is that an Is that just an experience?
Speaker 7 (24:03):
I think it's just the media landscape. The louder and
more like crazy you are, the more attention you get.
Therefore you get more money. We need more media literacy
and yeah, I don't know, it's a whole commentary that
I can.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But once you get the money, do you need to
show it out. I mean, do you need to flaunt
that to your to the people who are supporting you.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Oh, I don't know. I think that's weird.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It is weird.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
By the way, Chris, I heard that Brigitta is going
to fight Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
What go on?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah? How did you work where diamond study gloves? That'd
be great. Yeah, Oh my gosh, that would be huge.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
I would lose.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Nah, I don't know. I saw his last fight. You
might have a chance. Yeah, you got I mean you
move around pretty well. Yeah, just stay on your toes,
float a little bit. He just moves in circles. He
get dizzy quick and fall over. I was I was
really disappointed that last fight he had, the Jake Paul fight.
I think you could take him.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Could you kill the goat? And like you know, athletes
old age come on.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
The money, though, Brigitta, you'd get you'd get paid. You
get paid.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
I mean, okay, sign me up, guys. You heard it here.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
First, Ye you get paid.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Besides, I mean, even if he did beat you, what
would be like one punch you hit the mat.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You're good. Cash I check, girl, cash it all right.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It is a new trend in dating it's called flood lighting.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Oh god, do we have U.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Gen z?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Stop renaming things? All right? What is flood lighting? That's next?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
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Speaker 3 (25:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I got that right, Yeah, featured segments featured segments the
KFI AM six forty dot com Raoul, we learned something
about you today, and I love learning something about my friends,
and that is that you're a psychopath who eats chocolate
bunnies from the middle. That's just weird. H Cayla Caylea
(26:14):
learned something about me. I don't think we did it
on the air, did we. We were talking about animals
and interactions with animals and manliness.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
And m pig definition refer.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
She said I'm not manly because I'd never branded cattle,
and I said, that's true, but I've tagged pigs. And
she didn't realize that I once dated the County Fair
UH four h winner for best Pig of the year.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So learned something, didn't you wait to brag? I feel closer.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I feel like you and I are closer, much farther
from that girl that dated that had the pigs, you know,
not close to her at all, No, but you and
I I feel like our friendship is bonding, and I'm
very happy about that. Yeah, and then Bridgeta love it
when you come in and you make me smarter and
it inspires me to want to learn how to get
my fat fingers to edit video.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
I'll maybe I'll do my next video that's like how
to make videos for journalists, and then you can you know,
that's good advice.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I'm just intimidated by the software, just like how do
I make everything line up and all that stuff? And
then if I do know how to do it, then
that makes it.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
It's perfect and you don't need any special skills.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And I have no special skills.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
No, it could be. It's honestly so easy.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Doctor Wendy Walsh and Doctor Wendy after.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Dark start to second, Doctor Wendy, I learned a new term,
What's it? And I think this is another one of
those terms where people are just they're just renaming things
that have been around for a long time. It's the
new dating trend and it's called floodlighting. Have you heard
of flood lighting?
Speaker 7 (27:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Okay, well you've definitely heard of this. And it's sharing
too much too soon.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
We call that trauma dumping.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Oh I like trauma dumping is way bad. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Us.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Flood Lighting, they say, is when you share highly personal,
often emotional details about yourself early in a relationship, before
trust and intimacy have been established.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I have a friend who.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Does this, and he says they need to know up
front so that they're not wasting their time, and I'm
not wasting my time on them.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
They need to know, and I'm just like, whoah, maybe
you don't want to hit them with everything.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
That's what it is.
Speaker 11 (28:23):
Because I like the idea of growing intimacy by talking
about real stuff. But if it is too much real stuff,
or the real stuff is stuff that you haven't processed,
you know. I always say, we will never feel ashamed
of anything unless we haven't processed it. Once we've processed it,
(28:44):
we can get out in front of the story and
tell it our way, whatever it is that we did.
But shame comes when we still haven't finished processing it,
and then someone else, you know, gazes on us, gives
us that look yeah, we tell yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
And then it gives them the power to right. It's
like you're seeding the power when you don't process it right.
Speaker 11 (29:03):
But there's ways of explaining bumps in life in a way. Yeah,
in a way that shows that you've done the work,
you grew from it, you learn from it, and it
comes off as confident.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, I've had that sometimes.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
They Sometimes people think I should have shame for things
I've done in the past.
Speaker 11 (29:21):
Oh, me too, But that's because you and I are
extrovertsed and we process externally, so we say things that
most people only think.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Oh okay, how soon is too soon in a relationship
to to do things? For instance, now, fortunately I'm married,
and so the stuff I'm going to reveal my wife
had to deal with because it came about during our marriage.
But for instance, say something weld happen to my wife
and I have to re enter the dating scene. How
soon is too soon to say I have a seapap
and I'm highly embarrassed by that. So if ever you
(29:48):
sleep over, just don't look at me.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Is that too soon?
Speaker 6 (29:52):
That's a first way to say it. First of all, I.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Hate that thing, but I have to have it.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Otherwise you're going to die bapnia or something.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
That's what the doctors say.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Yeah, you know what, I think.
Speaker 11 (30:04):
I made the mistake of going on a women's wine
tasting weekend in January, sharing a room with a cardiologist
girl and that girl at breakfast. You were there, Kayla
out in Temechila. That girl at breakfast told me that
I need to go see a pulmonologist for my snoring
and that I probably could die from sleep apnea.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
I was like, I don't want to sleep. I don't
want to sleep anywhere near a cardiologist. Again they give
you such bad news.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
She may have saved your life.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
You could look at it that way. I didn't know
I snored, okay, except Julio told me. But he's a
New Yorker and he says, just background noise to him.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Oh yes, he's a New Yorker.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Better than the sirens and gunshots, so let's fight with it.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
Better than the train going by.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
So yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
No, So I might be.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
There with you.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
So maybe after you guys divorce, you and I could
date and we could have our matching.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, the thing is, I think my wife needs one too,
but she does not want to go get one either, so.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
But she's losing her hearing, so it kind of works out. See.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's marriage is give and take. I give snoring, she
gives away her hearing, and then.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Everything's fine, quite compatible.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I think, so great, I'm her ying to my yang
or something. That's yeah, that's how it works, all right.
So so process your own your own stuff first, and
then what when it comes up?
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Organic ay to be open about something, but if you
haven't fully processed it, then don't be open about it
yet and go processe it with a therapist.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And what if you're what if you're dating somebody and
you need to know Listen, I got kids and my
ex is crazy, so she shows up.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Stuff like that is important.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
But I do want to say that nobody looks kindly
on somebody on a first date who says they have
a crazy X because it makes us immediately think sorry.
If we're women and the men are saying it, and
one hundred percent of the men like to say it,
the first thing a woman thinks is.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
What did he do? Would you make her crazy?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Right?
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Yeah, not a thing not a polite thing.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
To say, because women support women unless it's Katie Perry
going to space, and then women can't wait to care.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Katie.
Speaker 11 (32:02):
What you do is you get your other friends to
whisper it, to hurt later, so that you're never the
one bad mouth in your ex. But then the other
friends come up and go, by the way, you're the
craziest x.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh plant the news story.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Yeah, and then it feels really real.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Because she heard it from a trusted source. Yep, yep,
you are can I I'm fly, I love it.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
I'm sly, That's what I am.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This is why we listen to Doctor Wendy after dark
starting at seven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Have a great show, Doctor Wendy. What do you have
coming up? Aside from obviously the Assis giving, there's.
Speaker 11 (32:34):
A new study, of course, there's a study on everything.
What romantic chemistry actually is. We're going to talk about
it as well as can chat box satisfy our human
need for belonging? We all have a need for belonging.
And then also do you ever get that new relationship energy?
(32:54):
What is it and how long does it last? And
is it good or bad? It's like the honeymoon face
is there. It feels should feels good. There's some good
and bad. We're gonna talk about it. And then I
have a really special guest on the show tonight. I'm
fangirling tonight, co host of the podcast Love Factually, doctor
Paul Eastwick from UC California, Davis U see Davis. There
(33:16):
we go h He runs the Attraction and Relationships Research Laboratory,
and but that he and his partner also have this
really cool podcast where they break down rom comms and
talk about what's possible in the real world and what
isn't and apparently some rom comms get things right.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I love that fangirl geek out over that stuff. That
sounds great.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
I'm so excited to me all right, I'm looking forward
for Paul, Doctor Paul coming.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
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